Minister Turns Atheist! Debate on MGTOW, Masculinity, Trump, & Black People! (Full Show)
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On this episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson sits down with Jerod Zavistoski, a comedian, dating coach, and a social and political commentator. Jesse and Jerod begin by getting into a debate about atheism and God after Jerod reveals that he grew up devoutly Christian, and then later decided to become an atheist. Jesse asks Jerod where he gets his values from, now that he doesn't believe in God. They then delve into masculinity, feminism, today's dating world, MGTOW, and whether Jerod thinks like a woman or a man. Jerod responds that he does both, because he understands how to empathize the way that a woman would. Finally, they discuss a Buzzfeed article, "37 White People Need to Stop Ruining in 2018," and Jesse asks Jerod to name something major that black people have built in the past 60 years. Finally, they debate about Donald Trump. Don't miss it!
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Jesse: You know why you don’t love Donald Trump?
Atheist: No,
Jesse: Because you don’t love your father. How hard is it to just forgive your father. Half of his genes and blood are in you. So when you hate your father it’s like you’re hating half of yourself and that’s what people don’t understand.
"I'm talking with an Esspert"
...and das amazin'!
An' he white.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
It's funny to think he believes what he's saying as reality. Lol
Excellent interview and kudos to the man's response to intense interrogation.
Where did you get your morality?
"Whatever is culturally acceptable at the time......"
The guy said he thinks like a woman at times. That's what most women would say.
So if culture decided that killing is fine, that guy is going to be one of the first People jumping onboard
@@adolphgracius9996 Some pretty bad ideas also come from popular religious texts.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear."
@@adolphgracius9996 some people.. just.. Some.. deserve to be expelled from their meat suits.
idk hy but you almost made me die. asshole this shit was too funny, GROW UP!
Jesse is a great performance artist! I could never come up with those questions
It's clear this man have never read the new testament. May our risen Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on him.
NT is still full of crap. It is marginally better than OT, but ultimate, still zero evidence.
Sean Armstrong the evidence is everywhere but you're so so blind to see. Repent and believe in true gospel of Jesus and may be able to see.
You should be a pastor earning money at the expense of the fools.
If I had a penny for every time I saw a christian post a cutout of what another christian said, I'd start my own church and spread the good word of nietzsche
Wacerah Chege I think Jesus would have more mercy for him than Jesse, although Jesse is a child as far as his IQ is concerned. Amazin........
I'm mystified that so many people think this guy is an intellectual. He speaks slow, thinks slow, and presents wildly fallacious arguments in the most shallow way you could imagine, but as long as he says something that they want to be true they overlook all of that. It's fascinating from an anthropological point of view.
yeah exactly. he's all over the place. I dont think he even knows what he believes in
Jesse is old, wise, completely at peace with Christ's forgiveness and has a funny voice... he's basically Yoda
Wise is such a joke of a word
"I wasted my life, so now that I'm old and stupid I'm wise and great"
Yoda is a Jedi, not a Christian
This was a great conversation, I enjoyed it a lot.
This man who "grew up in church", "trained to be an evangelist", and is mail-order "ordained" does NOT know the Bible even at a basic level! He fails to understand the Mosaic covenant and the post Messianic age, which any serious student of the Bible, and those who are not even that serious, would know.
That what happens when your called to be a preacher by your mom, and in rejecting the domination of his mother he also rejected God, because he did not know his father being over his mother.
Alētheias it's dependable on denomination and that's an theological debate. That's not the end all be all. Not to mention he disagrees so the chronology is irrelevant
A real man doesnt let a woman take the dominate position in a relationship. Weak man!
Says who? Your god?
Because my god (who actually exists) says otherwise
A friend of mine works from home and does much of the child rearing, as his wife is the primary breadwinner, with her job involving a lot of travel. He's a really easy-going individual, whereas his wife is more dominant. It's pretty much a textbook example of male-female role reversal. But it works very well for them and their kids, and they have a happy marriage.
So, I guess to me the point is that there are exceptions to pretty much any rule, and I have no problem with that. The problem I have is that we've come to the point that liberal social engineers like the current radical feminists always seem to be trying to hammer round pegs into square holes by forcing people into acting against their own natures.
They refuse to believe that fundamental differences between men and women exist, and when most men and women make the logically and predictably different choices that inevitably result in different outcomes, they assume that they are due to discrimination. If they don't see the same number of female mechanical engineers or astrophysicists, their knee jerk reaction is that that's proof of the dominant male hierarchy oppressing women.
What they refuse to acknowledge is that most women avoid those occupations not only because they don't want them, but also because most women simply don't have the skill set, the disposition, the physical ability, or the desire to enter certain fields, such as the NFL.
When they force radical feminism onto society, the are trying to remake it into something it isn't, and they create chaos, conflict, and social disruption in the process. When men get persecuted enough, they simply quit playing the game at all. Then, women have no man around to support them while they are preoccupied with childrearing.
No one wins, especially the feminists, who in turn just become more bitter and resentful of the men who refuse to be exploited.
Rodger Rabbit i'm not trolling, but I'm hearing this a lot and I'm curious what it means. So my husband I worshiped and put on a pedestal because he was amazing he could do things I couldn't do, and he did the same to me, because I could do things he couldn't do... we divided up chores according to the things we liked and we're good at. And made big decisions together...So can you give me real world examples?
Rodger Rabbit I agree 100%. The culture today is trying to make it acceptable to be an emotional whiney beta male. These "males" are fully satisfied with their wives or girlfriends calling all the shots and making all of the decisions. Terrible
this guy stood up pretty well against the great black hope
This show is hilarious. Is jesse Lee a character or does he really believe in what has saying? He's my donkey of the day.
Brilliant interview... Everybody needs to take the challenge and learn from Jesse for a year... you won't turn back.
The editing in this episode was hilarious.
This was a good interview
This was a great interview! The guest seemed to enjoy himself, was well prepared, and laughed at Jesse’s jokes.
As I listen further, besides being religious, this mans thinking is dangerous.
Steve Vallance thinking is never dangerous if you have discernment.
I don't know my father never even seen a picture of him was raised by my mother but I love Jesus he is the son of God
Did you get in touch with your father yet? If not, try to and tell him that you forgive him for abandoning you. Gl and all the best
Order of God: God>Christ>Man>Woman>Children... With your father being gone that order is broken in your life so the light of god is missing. It’s good that you believe But unless you return to your earthly father and forgive him.. god will never forgive you.
All animals are children of God, if God exists
@@calvinbailey4756 God didn't say that. You made up your own god
Kiki do you speak to God? What does it’s voice sound like?
I grew up with mom only and I turned Atheist when I was 18. It took me dying and meeting Jesus to believe.
An out of body experience?
@@freeross371 yes. I died and rose again through our Lord Jesus of Nazareth
@@420Yako Lol, a response one year later. Anyway, I kinda went through the same thing at 16, grew up in a Christian family, wouldn't say I was full on atheist but I was agnostic, until I returned to God.
Its truly sad how people get stuck on the bad things in the bible and miss the whole message it speaks to.
Lmao, it's a good thing you can interpret the bible in more ways than there are seconds in the Universe!
Jesse Davis i cant interpret the buble to that extent like some may. Those who think that the bible is bad or that it speaks to bad things truly dont understand the bible at all.
It's a good thing you can interpret the bible in more ways than there are seconds in the Universe!
I love you Jesse, but to say that anyone who has not been raised by an earthly father is not a child of God is unbelievable! I can't imagine anyone saying that! There are a lot of strong Christian men and women who didn't have a father or whose relationship with their father was strained at best. We can all become born again children of God, with or without an earthly father.
Thx for watching! YES, I say if you don't love your earthly father you can't know God. That's a spiritual law and there's no way around it. Do you love your father?
TheFallenState Lmao Jesse you are incredibly dumb..... Firstly, there is no proof of Yahweh... Secondly, would it be fair of him to reject children growing up without a father? Think about it.... It's not the child's fault.... You come across as very stupid in these videos, they're almost like spoofs
Lee Michael White Yahweh huh?
Please don't tell me that you are of Jewish descent because the Bible provide the lineage of Jesus all the way right back to Abraham.
Abraham is the father of isaac and Isaac is the father of jacob.
Jacob name was change to Israel.
The Bible is base on the foundation of Israel.
Meso Anto no I'm not of Jewish descent. The Bible doesn't provide evidence of any of this. It literally just lists a bunch of names.
Unapologetic WASP, What is your definition of born again? I've seen more "Christian" people claiming to be born again do the most dastardly deeds and turn around and preach religion! The scripture does not speak of a religion at all it does on the other hand say in Ephesians 4:5 One father, one faith, one baptism.
His mannerisms though..... he’s such a woman
Rico Gonzalo jealous much....
My impression of this guy is he wants to come across as philosophical but Jesse wants to test him and put his philosophy to the test.
Couldn’t get through the first 3 minutes of this PSEUDO Intelect. His first argument was against Christianity and his references is the OT .....???? 🤨 Bro...c’mon....c’mon ...
Yeah and they always use 2 samuel
I know your small closed religious mind can't deal with actual facts and reason.
"Pseudo intellect" then go on to say "references is"
DarkEternal6 Jephthah is from OT Book of Judges
Actually he came to FULFILL the law (Matt 5:17)...not enforce. This is a key distinction as the point of the OT law was to prove to mankind that, as fallen man, separated from God, if you wanted to be with God you would have to live a perfect life. Christ lived that perfect life for us and was sacrificed for us so that those who accepted Him would receive the gift that would only otherwise be obtained through living out the entire OT law without failing: eternal life with God. God saw that we could not ever be with him by any effort of our own (due to the condition of Sin) and so he gave us a way to be with Him. So why give the OT law at all? Why not just save us immediately? Because in order for the gift of eternal life to meaningful, in order for the love story between us and God to be meaningful, we must realize how far we fall short on our own. It is only at that point, when we realize how we will never stack up to the perfection of God, that we are in a place to accept his FREE gift to us of eternal life through the life and death and resurrection of Jesus.
Jesse, when you say "a real man would stand up" is true, but you can't prevent getting raped and railroaded through divorce / family court. It doesn't matter how much of a "real man" you are when judges and attorneys (an your ex-wife) are stealing your money, property, and your children. All you can do at that point is be a "real man" and rebuild your life and try to be as much of a part of your children's lives as you can. I refuse to be dominated by any woman but I wasn't able to prevent the court and my ex-wife from destroying everything in my life and having to start over at 40 years old.
Did my man Jesse tell this guest to "Smoke on it"? LMAO XD
Jesse: You know why you don’t love Donald, because you don’t love your father.
Jerod: Um........
37:37 lol reality slappin this poor dude... Priceless
This guy said the opposite of love is hate. He obviously doesn't know about " i don't give a fuck"
Values are developed by experience! As time progresses, experience does. We develop, we struggle, we succeed, throughout these experiences over time, wisdom unfolds and thus solidify a value system. Ultimately the wise begin to avoid pitfalls through proper planning!
Lukewarm Christians don't know what being a real Christian is he never once mentioned he was born again you must be born again
This guy cited his father as being a good Christian role model who influenced his decision on religion, then goes on to say he doesn't love him because he was abusive... Any one shocked this guys relationship with religion also sucks?
the larry bird shit at the end just had me in stitches
This is why Christians are so fucked up.."You love your earthly farther?" "No?! "Amazing!" I know love is an emotion like hate. It is very powerful. A cowardly dog turns its back...if someone stirs anger in you..direct it back to the person the same emotion..whether it be love or hate...this is how it was intended to be...but religion tells you to turn the other cheek so the strong can take over the weak...this is how it backfires. It hits you directly back in the gut where the emotion sprung from whether it be love or hate. treat people the way they treat YOU. If you fuck with me, regardless of who you are....mother, father, brother, sister teacher, boss, precher, cat, dog i will treat you the same. And believe me i know how to fire it directly back to my enemy.
Mason Macv checked this jared guys website & his bissexual ....that explains him removing himself from religion,
In order to feel like he was not morally & religiously doomed he jumped ship & went atheist which would leave no shame
Just keep looking immediately around the truth but not at it.
It will make you feel powerful!
Doomed to waste your already useless life you are
I don't agree with the guy on his athiesm, but I like him overall. Seems like a level headed decent guy that's a bit spiritually lost.
I can relate very much w/his story about "not loving his father" for the past. However its too late for me. It really hurts sometimes.
It’s definitely not too late for you it never is
I think this is my favorite episode, very interesting guest, and subject. Jesse , you are a wise man, glad you"re out there.
Once a month?!? If i was married, it would definitely have to be 3 times a week, minimum! Wow!
God gave his biggest warning to Christians who leave him. He said you would be better off never existing than to turn your back on him. He is clear you will suffer in the lowest level of hell that is specifically for people like this guy
Lol 😂 22:27 Larry Bird Lol. Dude said Larry Bird lol. I hit the floor laughing
Steve Nash 🤣
Larry bird was the great white hope...
Same
that cracked me up 😂😂
"Your already an atheist you got nothing to lose, your already out there"😂
You know its going to be a great show when we get TWO "Thats amazing" from jesse right off the bat. 😂
Khris Lust, lolol, I thought the same thing!
LOL!
Lol khris!
Be amazin if he could accept is emotions, instead of pretend to be a machine like Adolf Hitler. He keeps saying love. Jesse, love is an emotion!
Lol
Jesse could be a comedian. I find him very entertaining.
The more left-wing the guess, the more hilarious it is to see their deer in headlight expressions.
AMAZING.
Lmao Jesse says dumbass shit and yes it's funny to see the reaction to his sometimes extreme thoughts
It is pretty funny when he obliterates liberals with simple questions, but he isn't a true Christian until he admits to being a sinner which he hasn't or doesn't.
@@taralester6003 Obviously
A real man should not care what feminists say. Live your life. Its not illegal to be a man, its not illegal to be masculine, its not illegal to pick a woman who is femanine and gentle.
Mason Macv yeah I said the same thing,my close friend was accused of rape after he broke up with the girl....yeah you can be a man unless they have the law on their side... I don't know what mgtow is but I say smack the women and tell them you're not doing shit
Brian Thomas, not God, The Flying Spaghetti Monster. A false accusation is The Flying Spaghetti Monsters punishment on his dumb ass
Men go to jail all the time for being men.
Sometimes it is illegal.
U must be talking about the plague within the Roman Catholic church right?
16:49 is where MGTOW comes in for anyone who wanted to skip right to it
Thank you. The first half was not worth the time.
Much appreciated
I've been on a kick of watching Jesse's videos, and I've come to the conclusion that he's a bot. Literally every interview comes down to the exact same format:
Do you believe in god?
Do you think men are better than women?
White's are better than blacks.
What does it mean to be a man?
Do you love donald Trump?
That's Amazing.
Did you have fun?
I've had to check to make sure I wasn't rewatching an episode just to make sure.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it
@@ivanestrada4041 That ol' boy is definitely broke lol
Its interesting when the interviewees squirm a bit when he asks about their familial relationships, and how that could be a contributing factor to their sometimes negative outlook on life. They get slightly defensive, which is often a signal that he struck a nerve. Just an observation.
The thing I love about Jesse is that he gets straight to the point, and asks direct questions. After watching his interview style for the past few months, I've noticed most people are uncomfortable with giving a straight answer, without disclaimers or pre-qualifying reasons behind their answers or beliefs. Amazing.
Victoria L he only asks questions that try to back people into a corner that leads it to his beliefs only. Jesse is a racist peace of shit that hates his own race
DarkEternal6 The show is called "the fallen state". It's based around getting personal and finding out why people believe what they believe.
Gabriel Macias : You are projecting yourself on Jesse. You don't understand or see this because you are unregenerate and still identify yourself and others by skin color and race.
Jesse has been born from above, by God, through faith in Christ, so he no longer has the weakness and pathetic need of identifying himself by race.
Because of this, he is more able to judge and call out all those true racists who proudly and ignorantly identify themselves by race. I.e. the unregenerate racist tribalists who are dividing the nation.
Great points Victoria, I've noticed the same thing, simple questions that one would on it's face think would give simple answers most of the time turn into a huge insight into how someone thinks, their insecurities and their emotions, much better than "complex" questions from most people giving interviews that have very typical, consensus approved answers. Often I see in the comments people insulting Jesse for asking such "stupid" and pointless questions and don't seem to see what Jesse is doing and how much more he is actually revealing about a person's viewpoint.
Victoria L I agree 100%. Great comment 👍👍
Every atheist sounds smart until you ask them to explain where they get Their morality.
I think this is a great episode for people who think they're smart. I know I used to think I was smart. After this episode I see a lot of the lies I used to believe, the words I'd use to hide.The canned answers I'd fire at people to keep my house of cards up in my head.
I know, I too sometimes watch religious people going on about how they think they are smart and have answers
I know right? Jesse is so slow
@@calvinbailey4756 so are you
@@gibransaliba8801 dang you got him...
@@calvinbailey4756 you're being too generous. He's completely ignorant.
Christianity that changes on Social Constructs is not Christianity. Take it from a Preacher.
Correct
Joshua James exactly! Most of what's being taught to the public is not true Christianity.
I'm atheist, never been religious and my values are pretty much the same as Christianity except I don't believe in god, and yes morality does come from social constructs.
That is because you have been brought up in a society whose laws and customs were influenced and at one time governed by Christianity. Morality isn't always a Construct. Our Society "Damns" Rape but still happens among other things.
it's a classic what came first Chicken or the Egg situation ... Christianity or Morality, can we just agree here? I don't like challenging other people's beliefs as long as they don't challenge mine. everyone though has morality no matter what they believe.
Id like to know what happens after he forgives his Dad.
A release of the built up rage which results in inner peace. I'm telling you from experience.
@@Gravitywalker20 Because your experience is directly applicable to the 8 B I L L I O N other people on the planet.
Egotistical much?
@@NWinnVR For your own mental, psychological, emotional, and even physical health? Yes, my experience is applicable to all humans on Earth.
Please note that forgiving does NOT mean you have to have a relationship with your dad. That is vital, and comes down to personal choice!
NWinnStudio you sound like a beta male lollll
Why should he forgive his father who physical abuse his mother? His father should be impale thinking it's ok to beat up his wife.
He got better eyebrows than Halle Berry
I never got the fixation of the wierd hair above the eyes
chuck wood he probably gets more girls than you tho. 🤣
A thou if you take away brows it’s a mad look 👀 🤣🤷🏻♀️
he asked this guy if he wanted to get married and he brought up micro biology XD these ppl r something else
Atheists are always trying their hardest to sound “intelligent.” They will use big words and bring up “science” at every opportunity just to act like they’re better than you
I love how honest and composed this man is , especially being polish and raised by a single mother. never seen something like that...damn
Amazing..
That's because this atheist is full of himself. Being atheist requires big levels of inflated sense of self.
@@alexcardenas1169 being an atheist also requires a good amount of research into understanding the construct of the Christian religion and when pieced together it is completely false completely misunderstood and when you do do the research you will understand how it was there to dupe the masses into behaving so that there would be less violence in Israel during the time of the insurrection if you read back you will find that the Bible of new was put together by a Roman family and it was well written I must say but there is some holes in it that's for sure but when you do your research you'll find that people of the book are basically mindless people who accept these things as if they were gospel no pun intended
@@arlenmargolin1650 well I don't know what kind of or what quantity of research your talking about. I am going to be honest about my circumstance. As an atheist I did two years of intense research obsessively researching information to solidify my stances as an atheist. However I have know continued to research as believer for 15 years. So I can only tell you the same thing. I am honest to myself this does not benefit you or anyone else. But I am clear of doubt and have peace with the Truth. I can only wish for more people to come into the light because the truth sets you free.
@@paperliger1199 if you want to do some research you can look up the the Christ myth and the name of the family is called the Flavians
41:50 do you love Donald Trump.... DO YOU LOVE DONALD TRUMP??!!!!
Another fatherless son... I see a trend.
Lady Jenny growing up without a father has nothing to do with being an atheist. Most atheists grew up with a mother and father yet they still decided to choose to be an atheist. Why do you think that is?
@@nuk2173 you are a..Beta!
He's not fatherless..listen to the video
I grew up with my parents and are very close.. I'm still an atheist.
@@dt7491 Submitting to your sky-daddy sounds pretty beta.
He's a conflicted male that needs to forgive his father for not being in his life.
Marquis Patterson I couldn’t have said it better, conflicted on many levels
I never realized how much pain we women has caused men by being spoiled brats and unappreciative. I apologize
@Chief Chiefn Ok but just like Jesse says Mtgow are just weak men who run from women lol. How do you allow the weaker sex to make you run? lol Weak ass beytas
@@cherisseshaw your first comment was just fine
Jesse is such a national treasure.
This Atheist makes a ton of assumptions and is very condescending. He is another case of a pseudo-intellectual who speaks as though everything that comes out of his mouth is objective truth (and provides no evidence himself) but yet is critical of Jesse's viewpoint. He accuses Jesse of logical fallacies but is providing no logic or support for his own viewpoints.
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways
It’s always funny when he says the great white hope and the person seriously doesn’t know who is referencing lol who LARRY BIRD
because that's a title that's been used at least a dozen times in the past. including larry bird
Take the Red Pill Gentlemen. Escape the Matrix.
So that means you prefer Tylenol to Advil i take it?
@@NWinnVR red is the truth. Don't be a smart ass troll, you know what it meant lol.
16:54 they start talking about MGTOW you're all welcome
Thank you from a year ago.
Jesse is like the Columbo of pastors. I love this dude.
Perfectly put!
You mean like “Cujo” of pastoring.
zymbo lmfao. I used that same reference to describe him to my wife.
Best comment ever
Great analogy zymbo!
You were ordained for $50 dollars? I was married for $35. And my bible was free.
best things in life aint gotta be expensive, dude is a douche.
the best use I've ever found for your bible it TOILET PAPER
A piece of paper saying you're an ordained minister means zero. Jesus won't acknowledge you come judgement day. Lol
@@iwillchoosefreewill9787 Idiot
@@els7362 is all a lie lol
Jesse is really good against brainwashed, far-left radical people.
But it's at a cost. This guy seems nice, sane, normal. Jesse could have done a better job interviewing him.
Im a mgtow monk n i love you jesse
Well the Bible does say "your adversary the devil walks the earth seeking whom he may devour". So I think maybe they did get the translation right on what Satan means and perhaps thats why he was given that name because he is an adversary. Gosh I can't stand atheists sometimes. And another correction. The Christian argument isn't that our morality come from the Bible but from God himself since we are made in his image. His very nature is the standard for morality. Which is why people know right from wrong.
This is freaking hilarious. He's saying he gets his morals and beliefs from the culture at the time. But then he's objecting to what certain cultures did a long time ago saying he would have known better. But that's not true if you get your values from the culture. His argument makes no sense and isn't consistent at all. Good job on calling him out Jesse.
But if morality really does come from culture then there is no real right or wrong. It would just be subjective since cultures can always change. So if someone really and truly believes that then they should never object to anything that any culture did in the past. Unless of course they don't really believe that? Lol
And it does always seem to be that a lot of atheists always have issue with their dad. And apparently this guy is no exception. I wonder if there's a connection there.
If you are only good because god made you so then is there really good?
Amen brother preach the truth ! God bless you
I'm an atheist. My father and I have no issues. He's Russian Orthodox. We embrace each other's beliefs because he isn't an evangelist and it's part of the music his career is beautifully founded on. And he respects my belief because it's founded on a deep understanding of axiology, metaphysics, and philosophy of language, and an honorable mention for logic, especially analytic logic. It's what makes our relationship wholesome.
.... Something tells me I'm the normality for the rule, and not the exception, for those who apply their standards for family in a two way street.
I get the impression you've never been in an atheist community, and you've instead only debated a few here and there who couldn't handle your dishonesty, and lack of actual critical thinking.
Seriously? It's such a non sequitur between fatherhood, morality, and atheism. It's a very speculatory analysis with a lot of words and little substance.
If it's subjective you can still disagree with something in the past, but he definitely shouldn't think at the time he would've known better
It's because satan is their daddy
He gets his values from a culture which gets its values from Judeo-Christian values. Example of Judeo-Christian values: "personal liberty. Rights of the individual." Judeo-Christian values of the west.
E A what is the “judeo” part??
E A liberty and freedom are secular values. The Bible is authoritarian and wants to condemn people for thought crimes. Looks like someone never read their bible
Explain for me you know I'm black and I'm slow🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣🤣He gets me every time he say that to these plp...
Joy is so different from Happiness. Happiness is externally supplied. If you have a bad day... you distract yourself with a video game or drink or have sex boom you get hooked. When you finally stop those happy things and finally face reality, you start looking for another thing that can make you happy for a moment... you're basically losing your mind and not facing your problems. Addiction sets in.
But Joy tho.. Joy you can't find on a book shelf, or a website, it's the kind of thing were you still have peace when your loved one dies or when your house is on fire or when your life is wrecking, when you don't know when your next meal is coming from. The ability to put on a smile from within and no one can take it away! Put your Joy in the Lord. Only Christ can provide such peace through his Word. I can't explain the Joy you have when you have the Holy Spirit and Christ dwelling in your heart.
Satan can make Happiness a tool for you to completely lose sight of Christ. Do what makes you happy? I bet Ted Bundy was happy killing people...
This young man claims to understand logical fallacy and yet he says he feels like both a man and a woman. Boy get out of here
africanindiaspo all humans have testosterone and estrogen in their body. You are scientifically illiterate
He’s a hybrid, very rare.
@@calvinbailey4756 estrogen is just a hormone, it doesn't make you a woman... try again.
@@drewmac9270 is English your second language or are you just slow?
I found it hard to forgive my father for beating my mom and beating her into a comma while pregnant with my little brother, but the relief of letting it go and forgiving a man whom you once hated, is incredible it really gives you a whole new outlook on life completely, I totally recommend it to anyone whom has a father who has left and sinned against you and your family.
yessir, you figured it out.. Keep that attitude. After we forgive, we realize the truth.
Anger has kept people in bondage for so long, and they deceive themselves that the people they hate deserve it but it blinds them instead
Realizing we are guilty and need forgiveness just like the people we are angry at, is the freedom we need
i would have killed him for hurting my Mom,,, anyone who watches the women they love get beat by a coward is a pussy
Why don’t you hate your mother for driving your father to beat her into a coma?
I'm not a believer but found myself forgiving my father, who also misbehaved with my mother, my sister and I. I came to learn we're of flesh hence imperfect and one must make any effort not to hold hate for no person, not even what'd you call your enemy.
"What argument wouldn't be complete without a woman bringing up something from the past", such a true statement.
Jesse lee Peterson needs to learn better communication skills. He's needs to learn better journalism skills. He needs to stop being so rude and disrespectful to his guests. Stop interrupting and repeating the same things.. Such as: "AMAZIN" and so forth.. You say you're a Christian but at times lack proper Christian etiquette.. Not saying that Christians are perfect because we're all a work in progress concerning our walk with God. Pray that God the Father help you be a little more sensitive and loving to unbelievers. Not saying you have to agree with their opinions. Just saying to ask the Holy Spirit to help put a bridle on your tongue at times and to help you speak properly to others. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Selah.. 🤔 😇
35:00 "Remember, you love everybody... Except your daddy!"
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Jesse is a mess! Lmao!
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Please use a correct time stamp, almost a minute wrong. 35:56
Psalms 14 vs 1: A fool says in his heart that there is no God.
He is trying to be all clever and technical in his answers, in order to justify himself, which makes him a complete example of a fool. He will pay for his fool decision and talk.
And youre trying to be clever by quoting a piece of scripture. Nice try, but Psalms 14:1 is for the brainwashed. There's nothing supporting it.
Set Apart what about Luke 14:26 ?? Do you believe Jesus words??
His father, a good Christian man, abused his wife and kids then left them. He has no idea who jesus is. He sacrificed for all people, who didn’t deserve it. That is love.
Sad. Never was born again. What or who was he ministering to... $$$😎?
Its EASY to start Christianity. Actually living it takes commitment most dont ever get to.
Deren Icke sad that Jesse can't even reason.
Acesahn I know this from experience.
this comments section is AMAZIN
JLP is literally insane. This guy is hilarious!
I think people in this comment section have the MGTOW thing wrong .. I've gone my own way from marriage and relationships and believe me women aren't hard to acquire .. To say that guys are going their own way because they can't get women or they're gay you completely miss what it's really about .. I don't fall for those shaming tactics because I see the realness behind my stance of no marriage, no kids .. It's just being smart and realizing the juice ain't worth the squeeze .. Women aren't worth the hassle of kids and living together I think I'll pass .. To marry a women in this day in age despite the divorce stats, child support and alimony etc isn't intelligent or wise .. I won't be on youtube making videos about it because it don't make sense to try and wake people from this matrix it would be a waste of time .. I just do me and keep it pimpin and I'm happy about the peace of mind ..
All the confused people that used to be Christians, they all from subreligions . No one orthodox , even Catholic. I am orthodox, in our bible , doesn't say nothing nowhere go to kill someone, ours gives the totally opposite meaning.
THERE ARE NO ATHEISTS IN HELL
Best thing I've heard all day
but then again, there is nobody in hell
"If I didn't know any better..." Wow, isn't that letting the cat out of the bag? On the one hand he claims that morals come from society (rape and murder, in his examples) but then says society was wrong to think that. How could society get it wrong if morals come from society?
thatMimosaGrove Of course morals come from society. That's exactly why we get things wrong sometimes. And that's why moral norms change from culture to culture... Morality can evolve as society evolves. That's why dogmatism is wrong...
Stefan Bartalus
If morals come from society (and there is no other source), then society can't possibly be wrong. What would "wrong" even mean? Unless there is an alternate source for right and wrong (other than society), there is no way to judge how right or wrong society has gotten something.
michael lester
Morals do not come from logic alone. Should I try to help you if you are in danger? Yes, if I am able, and especially if I am the only person around. That is the moral thing to do. But what if I am afraid of getting involved? I might get hurt. Logic tells me to protect myself. Self preservation is of utmost importance. I reason that it is better that I survive than you. Morality on the other hand tells me something entirely different. It tells me I should suppress my fear, stir up my compassion, summon my courage, and do something to help you anyway. But why? If you say it is for the benefit of humanity, I may ask why I should care about humanity unless it benefits me personally. What logic is there in caring about a stranger who will provably never be able to return the favor? What logic is there in caring about the future of people in general? If you say humanity should be preserved, I may ask simply, "Why?" You see, logic provides no answer.
thatMimosaGrove good example
If your morals come from the society around you , you will never be grounded as a human being. You have to have morals and values that transcend the ebb and flow of culture.
"you can't hate your father and love anybody else." Jesse Lee Peterson 2018 Nothing truer has ever been said.
RC Addix Inc what about fathers who rape their babies, young, or teenage daughters or even sons. Should you love an evil man that even Jesus said it would be better if you were never born than to hurt one of these little ones. God is not a creator of hate and division but his judgement of those who hurt the innocents is guaranteed which means “the great white hope” is in for a world of hurting.
@@lynnkmiddleJesus said that we are to forgive one another and yes that even means to forgive those that have done evil things. The Bible says in Matthew 6:15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Nobody can truly Love with hate in their heart and unforgiveness creates the sweetest of growing places for bitterness and hate. When you truly understand that concept you will understand why Jesse lee Peterson's statement is so true and Biblical. I hope you have a blessed day.
Nah I still cannot forgive my father
bullshit...
SuperTruthful you’re full of hate and you like to bathe in it.
“im black and im slow” .. this dude has deep seeded self hate issues 🤦🏿♂️
Sir your are definitely neither black nor slow. You are an intellectually brown skinned man who exposes the fallacies of the fallen.
Interesting how he claimed to have thought about every single one of his values, but he never thinks about his own dad. I wonder if honesty is one of his values.
Not all dad becomes their kid's role model
Go see and forgive your Father. You, need him.
Amen. It would be good for him.
Jesse: I realized by watching you my Sons (two) would prosper should they forgive me. How is it possible for them to do so without me being the one to tell them? They are good Men, raised fully by me and my Wife, both in their 30's now and raising Sons of their own. We don't see one another much at all, I miss them dearly. I believe you when you say they must return to their Father. How will they know, who would tell them?
john hutcheson how badly did you fuck up with your sons. Have you asked for forgiveness. Do you actually hear yourself.
transporter78213: Do I feel that I made mistakes as a Father? Yes. Looking back there are some things I would have done differently for sure. If I understand the message Jesse is trying to relay then I must go to my Head and ask for forgiveness of my shortcomings. That would be part of my healing process, this is not about that. This is about the healing process of my Son's, the resentment they feel for me, not the resentment I feel for myself. Asking them for forgiveness is not the same as them forgiving me.
transporter78213 one doesn’t ask for forgiveness
This guy would be difficult to marry..torture!!!!
Or maybe American culture has been so skewed to make values more like personal convenience. Hard for anyone coming to America or young kids to know which one to live by.
Say what you want about Mgtow, it has one truly great aspect to it; the reclamation of vital male independence. Ironically, by "giving up" on women, men regain their power, and become much more capable of relating to women in a masculine way. Beyond the sob-stories and the griping, Mgtow is the perfect remedy for the large scale emasculation of society.
LOL, Jesse called his daddy issues out immediately.
When those moments come, you go watch a movie. What a weak man.
Jesse is so arrogant and hates his own pigmentation and anyone who shares that.... so sad to see. Glad he brings on so many rational logical thinkers hopefully they will eventually rub off on him
He screwed up right in the beginning when he said Peterson was alleging a moral fallacy when Jesse wasn’t he just asked where he got his values from.
Atheists are really really worried about sounding smart all the time. They call Christians smug but that’s projection
The man was never a Christian. He was an actor. No one leaves Christ if they are truly saved, no matter what happens in their life.