@•Løvely_trashx • you have the least brain activity I’ve ever seen. He’s not mocking it. He’s making a joke about pronouns which in turn normalizes them. So you should be happy and follow along. That’s why a lot of former dark humor topics have become normalized. Its a common process
@•Løvely_trashx • I also looked at your account. You have a playlist with a remix of Alex Jones saying the waters turning the frogs gay. Isn’t that making fun of gay people and their sexuality? Or is it different because you say so?
There's a lot of gay people in our family, my uncle told his son, "You didn't have a choice to be gay, but you have a choice to be a bitch or not" that was good parenting.
not everyone feels like "they" is the right fit for them - the fun thing about pronouns is that even if something is just "fine", it can be nice to break out and use the pronouns that make you happy and represent you a a person! Some non binary people use he or she pronouns, some binary people use they/them, and anyone can use any pronouns they feel best represent their own identity! It's a cool tool for self expression!
Jay Viney this made me so happy reading this because most people I meet say my pronouns are they/them and not he/they. Someone even said my pronouns were “girl.” Your reply was also really nice even tho the comment didn’t seem very nice. Idk why I’m saying this. I’m just bored lol
Sometimes people get confused about gender identity and... uh.. Actually, if you want to be called "Cash Money", there's actually no good reason why you can't just call yourself that, and everyone has to play along
this is why i love my native language (filipino). we don't have pronouns based on gender, we just use one set of pronouns "siya/niya" :-) even for most words, we don't really have differences (for example, son/daughter have no counterpart each, we just say "anak"=child, or sister/brother is just "kapatid"=sibling. we do have specific terms for older brother/sister tho [kuya/ate respectively])
I noticed that about Tagalog/Filipino and I thought it was cool that pronouns weren't gendered. The only confusing thing is when native Filipino speakers also learn English. My mother would constantly use the wrong pronoun for our cat, sometimes switching mid-sentence. And at Filipino gatherings the wrong English pronouns fly around like crazy. Me and the other 1st-generation Americans get misgendered and mixed up all the time, but it's no big deal.
The people who want to be identified differently and making pronouns and stuff.. feels like they're seperating themselves and increasing gap between majority of people.
Can men and women be friends and work together despite using him and she respectively. Yes? Than its the same with people who use neo-pronouns. It's not a way for people to separate themselves from others, it's a way for them to feel comfortable with themselves
@@gilly_axolotl can you explain? now that there are probably dozens of pronouns and will be dozens more in upcoming time. Showing that there's no system for them and showing that they're result of subjective invention. I'd rather say him or her according to their phenotype.
People can call themselves whatever they want, that's not my issue nor the issue the majority has, the issue is that they are trying to force this nonsense down ppl's throats BY LAW, that's totally unacceptable and people have already been fired because of this nonsense.
Mine is "Billionaire Playboy". I identify as a Billionaire Playboy, and it is the role of the state to ensure that my actual life is congruous with my identification.
Real original, as if anyone who even remotely looks into social media doesn’t remember the college backlash when some prominent male told his class to refer to him as “your majesty”. Never heard that one before
I mean, when you say “how would you feel,” I personally wouldn’t care if someone kept trying to use the wrong pronouns. Only people who struggle with their gender care.
@milkmandan77 Believe me, it won't... At the very least, they will NEVER force people to call someone something as absurd as "Ze"/"Hir"/"Zir"/"or any other made up Word, sorry I meant Made up 'Pronouns' " And if does go through, I, like a LOT of People will not Follow that Stupid "Law". I don't care what/how you Identify, and it shouldn't matter either! Were all humans beings and we have to respect one another, but Making up BS Pronouns and try to Force them down People's Throats is no way to get yourself recognized as a Separate Gender... In closing, I just want to remind everyone that all this Movement is doing is Harming the way people see Transgender People! I have nothing against anyone, as long as they don't want to push their agenda onto me, or force me to behave a certain way, or make a Huge Deal out of "Using the 'Correct' Pronoun", but "Correct" is YOUR definition...the Majority of People would never say that using Made Up Pronouns is "Correct"... People don't become "Incorrect" just because they don't agree with you! That's not the way the world works... Just like the Anti Fat Shaming Movement who basically try to force Everyone to Change their Preferences to Include Fat, Obese and even sometimes Morbidly Obese people that don't do anything to help their situation... Just like Anti-Fa and the other ridiculous movement from the (Extreme) Right trying to Shove their "Correctness" down our Throat, whether or not we agree! First- "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." -Thomas Jefferson and Second- "You can catch more Flies with Honey than with Vinegar" - Unknown (Though I prefer the Alternative Proverb: "You can catch more Bees with Honey than with Vinegar", it's actually True, since Flies, Fruit Flies anyways, are also attracted to Vinegar, maybe more so than to Honey...for Once and I think it also illustrates it's Meaning more Clearly without other More Confusing Negative Meanings associated with it...) P.S: If you do know who that Second Proverb is from, please let me know...
@milkmandan77 Yeah but Jordan Peterson is one of few if not the only one who says that Bill C-16 would actually give this amount of power and latitude. Most others have mentioned that this would only be applied when there is ACTUAL Hate Speech and using the "Wrong" Pronoun for someone, no matter the race, sex or gender, does not nor will it ever fall under "Hate Speech". I guess you could say that the person who refuses to use such Pronouns could be labeled as "Not Pro-Gender Pronouns Use" but I fail to see how refusing to use certain words, and even some that aren't even words, but entirely made up "Pronouns"...how would this be construed as "Hate Speech"? I really don't think that refusing to use certain words, as opposed to using certain words you shouldn't use like Racial Slurs/(Extreme) Sexist Remarks and things of the sort would be much more likely to fall under "Hate", but NOT using a word can't really be "Hate", at least not because someone has decided that they want to be called a certain way... (Ex: Would a Doctor be allowed to get you Fined or whatever the consequence for Not using the "Dr." prefix or even Refusing to Call Him/Her "Dr." entirely?) (No matter what you answered to the above Parenthesis, then that should clarify whether or not You think it should be a Constitutional Law or Not...or rather whether you think Jordan Peterson still has a valid point or not...) BTW: Isn't nice to have a pleasant Conversation even if our points of view aren't exactly the same? Cheers to those few Quality Convos! P.S: In case this is coming from Steven Crowder's videos...as much as I like him and respect his opinions on Politics and serious Divisive Issues in the United States, as someone living presently in Canada, Montreal to be exact, where he also comes from...but somehow, this seems to make him biased because he tends to no use a real Journalistic Reporting Style when doing anything about Canada... What I mean is that instead of having a Question, going to the right place to get these answers, finding said answers and then making his report. He seems to be going off his past experiences (he left at 18 and is born in 87...so a LONG Time AGO...) and making a report based on that while doing anything to arrive to that conclusion...He's not asking a question and trying to find an answer. He already has the answer he wants to present and just goes at it all wrong to prove his false claim...which is based on very old experiences/memories...
@Boop non binary people are real and valid why hate on someone who’s not harming you. also neopronouns have existed for centuries going all the way back to ancient egyptian times. they are real and we can use them. it makes people feel themselves we don’t need to explain why we feel comfortable with these pronouns we just do. and the he/him and she/her pronouns aren’t gendered at all. gender does not equal pronouns at all. you need to do your research on these topics before you say anything. ok?
@@justyourlocalcommenter7492 anything that doesn’t correspond with their chromosomes. If you’re a female, I will not call you “sir,” etc. I will also not be forced to learn new vocabulary just to make you feel better, due to gender dysphoria.
I have trans friends and I love trans people and I never intentionally misgender someone but no one has the right to control your vocabulary because their self esteem wants it that way
@@wyvernsden3385 Yeah. So? I ment that a many languages can't use gender-neutral pronouns while reffering to people and you sure as hell can't create new ones just like that
@@sono_chi_no_sodium_chlorid7635 but the video is for english speakers and does not apply for non english speakers? I get what you mean but each language is a different, well, language.
@@wyvernsden3385 I have never seen them provide an exemption for such languages. They even insist that Latinx is a word. It's not limited to English. This applies to all languages.
@@gilly_axolotl Being in intellectual disagreement with a concept isn't the same as being offended. They're making a big deal out of nothing by giving the words too much power.
@@gilly_axolotl pronoun enthusiasts. they're literally always saying "pronouns are an/the most important part of a person's identity". that's a sad existence.
If you want to be called she, he, or them then fine, but if you want to be called ze, xe, or any other weird thing I'm not gonna even bother bc I don't even know how I would use those
Pronouns for males: He/Him Pronouns for females: She/Her Pronouns for somebody that you don't know is a male or a female *yet* : They/Them Every other "pronoun": Non existent. Class dismissed.
@@leiacartier2259 he is making fun of it, because it is laughable. “Ze/Hir” hahahah you can’t just make words up and think other people have to say them🤣🤣
@@leiacartier2259 Neo-pronouns are just a small-scale form of far left control. Making words up and telling people they should use them out of respect because you're too good for "they/them"? Bore off.
I say this as a member of the LGBTQ community: I would refer to you by "he" because that's what you identify as and that's fine, I'll defend your right to be what you want until the end. It's the made up nonsense words that myself and many others draw the line at. I have yet to find anyone that can actually explain what the individual made up pronouns mean. All they do is cause confusion and make conversation that refers to someone who uses said pronouns way more difficult than it needs to be. You can pretend like it doesnt, but it does. If your well-being hinges on someone referring to you by the correct pronoun then you have more serious problems to deal with, and especially if you're self-centered enough to want to use your own unique made up pronoun.
I use they/them/it/its/ze/zir/xe/xem pronouns. Gender and language is a social construct and people should be able to present themselves however they want, do what makes you most comfortable. Using those pronouns is what makes me feel comfortable and happy and that's why I use them. I really don't care about the gender binary as long as I'm comfortable within my own mind and body.
Court Jester Your name really suits you considering the jokes you’re spitting. Now let me drop some real knowledge on you. Gender _ROLES_ are social constructs. Gender itself is science.
People just want to feel like something fits and if that's an inconvince to you I'm so sorry but people aren't gonna stop trying to be themselves just so your little cisgender mind can be happy
@@harryferguson1812 I think they mean that it's fine if people want to be called other pronouns, but it does seem a bit difficult to remember all of the neo pronouns; they/them, she/her, and he/him are easier to remember and it's (at least for me) easy to remember which pronouns my acquaintances prefer when it's one of those three, but honestly I'm so lost with the neo pronouns sometimes like ze/zir or xe/xyr, I've tried reading up on them but I still don't know how to use them and I have no idea when they apply either
Look man, I’ll support they/themes and genderfluids, but these ze/zir things realistically aren’t going to work. Like, no one is going to call you that. edit: i made this comment a while ago, and i’ve had time to grow and mature as a person since then. i understand what i said before could be seen as hurtful and offensive, and this point and time, i could care less as to what you want me to refer to you as, as long as it isn’t offensive or making mockery of pronouns. i’ve changed as a person and I now support neopronouns, and i apologize if i’ve hurt or offended anyone.
I think that it is ridiculous that now in order to not offend someone, when meeting them for the first time, the first question is expected to be “what is your pronoun“. What has happened to us!?!
Gender neutral pronouns (they/their) were constructed and are generally only in use for the sole purpose of mentioning an item that you do not know the owner of or a group of people/items. They are not meant for someone to use for himself/herself. And also if someone wanted to call me she/her I personally would not give a shit because I know who I am and their(used in the context that I do not know if it’s a male or female that would be doing this to me) words do not define who I am. If you allow anyone else’s words or opinions to control you or upset you because they were “wrong” then you only give that person power over you and you will lose every time. Knowing who you are personally is more important than others getting your “preferred pronoun” correct. If you don’t know who you are, then that is the big issue here. Focus on that before you try to police others into following whatever rule you set in place.
Agreed! When I finally learned of this power, I learned I can get people to leave me alone just by giving opposite or neutral responses to their button pushing. If I'm in whatever mood I'm in, I'll push that button in accordance to that mood (maliciously; friendly tease/make fun of something absurd; OR playing Devil's Advocate to get people to think their own position through, even if I completely agree with that position.)
@@NatureLover-pj2qe I have had a large change of perspective since that comment was originally made. I have learned a great deal more and do see things differently now. But I still hold the belief that no matter what you refer (he, she, they, them, etc.) the more you give someone else power to upset you by being hurt or offended when they say your non preferred pronoun, the weaker you make yourself. If you use they/them or any other specifics, then the only people you should care about offending you at the ones you personally choose to acquaint yourself with on the regular. But being offended by a stranger you do not know using the wrong pronoun only gives them power over you and makes you weaker. That will still be my stance for the rest of my life because as I taught my ex (who is trans ftm) what you know yourself to be is more important than what some asshole who doesn’t know you thinks.
If someone looks like a girl I’m gonna call call them a she, if they look like a guy I’ll call them a he. People really put in that much effort for a single word in a sentence
In Thailand sawadikap means “hello”. It's a greeting. But “sawadi-ka” is for females and “sawadi-krap” is for males. Many countries will have a tough time adjusting many parts of their language for all the different genders.
Also, good luck converting the mentality of South East Asian countries. Western countries want to believe that we’re as soft and kind as they are but nah.
If you DEMAND that I make a sound YOU want me to make, I proclaim this is “SEXUAL ABUSE SURVIVOR PHOBIC”. I will do nothing with MY BODY, my throat, my breath, unless I CONSENT. If the idea of consent isn’t respected, or if you truly don’t care, this can lead to suicides too. To DEMAND “any bodily ability” of someone who may not want to (for your gain) is FORCE and could be considered abusive.
@@jasper9434 I personally am not supportive of this pronoun thing, but I'm just bringing up practical solutions so it's a win-win. Another way you guys can stop using unnecessary pronouns is....I dunno...use the person's name instead...
Seem to me that we all have to walk on eggshells, even asking someone's pronouns is apparently making them feel "the odd one out". People don't have to call someone by their preferred pronouns, it is well within someone's right to disagree or question someone's actions regardless. I dont't have to call someone they/them or zey/zir or whatever especially if their attitude is denouncing someone as transphobic or asking questions or having different opinions. Basically this is just another case of a large group of people with the "you're either with us or against us" mindset. Taking away freedom of speech doesn't solve the problem, its like putting newspaper over a puddle of piss and saying its clean. Freedom of speech brought LGBT into acceptance because it allowed people to question obscene views and standards over things which weren't harming anyone.
Wow, let's defend the rights of an individual to be mortaly offended by anyone who says something that doesn't quite align with their own personal preferences, beliefs, personal sensitivities, way of life, or newly-created way of referring to themself. This world is becoming a place where everyone has to tiptoe around everyone else. I could identify and dress as a tiger and insist on using the pronoun 'meow' - on this basis, that's my right - but expecting everyone to accommodate that fantasy is not very realistic and it wouldn't be reasonable for me to take offense when people don't, even if I'm clearly wearing my tiger onesy. I'm just taking this nonsense to its logical conclusion.
Okay but using any other pronouns other than She/her He/Him They/Them, I am not going to use them. There is absolutely no purpose to why other pronouns should exist.
You people want to be taken seriously but you have a goddamn Harvard maths professor create a new algorithm for you 2 times a month to randomly generate 7 letter strings of text so you can use as pronouns
You are free to be whatever gender you want but don't expect the rest of us to agree with your identity. You don't get to dictate how everyone else sees gender in the world.
I still don't understand so I'm going to research more videos, I've always called trans people by what they identified but I still don't understand ze/zer...
@•Løvely_trashx • so since it’s not my business, it’s not my business to refer to someone as ze/zir. I’m not changing the way I speak and use English for anyone. I will gladly use they/them instead if it comes down to it.
@•Løvely_trashx • I will gladly use a trans person’s preferred pronouns. Those include she/her, he/him, and they/them. I will not change the way I speak (ze/zir) so they can feel more “comfortable”. Using made up words would make me uncomfortable, so I would refer to them by their name, but use they/them if it came down to it.
some of my friends are trans and im bi. My childhood best friend who is like a brother to me is trans in fact. We don't like neopronouns they make a joke out of the trans community and people who actually struggle with gender dysphoria. Most trans people don't like neopronouns and joke about them. Same with the tumblr genders lmao look it up before calling everyone here trolls. Btw almost everything supporting neopronouns and tumblr genders is on tumblr where the idea of neopronouns and tumbler genders came from. Keep in mind I'm not talking about non binary or like gender fluid, those are different and they usually use they/them her/she he/him depending on how they feel.
you're the transphobe by creating/playing into fictional gender identities to sum up what people wish to be known as which completely invalidate what pronouns are for, get help
The way people are called these days is what's ruining America. It's dumb to get mad at someone for calling a man a man just because the person who called them a man had no idea they offended a person that was a man but didn't associate as a man. Let's just accept a person for who they are and drop all these stupid labels that are making each of us argue with each other for saying a word they had no idea the person didn't want to be called. Let's just call each other human.
Oh no! We can call people huMAN! That's sexist. They should be called homosapians (sp?) or bipeds instead. Or just Hue for short. (Meant to be light of those who are being overly sensitive. Human is a perfectly fine term and I'll be annoyed WHEN this becomes a language battle.)
All these people saying that they won’t use pronouns because they don’t want to. What’s your minor inconvenience to a life time of dysphoria. You’d not exerting your right to freedoms of speech or making a statement, you’d just being an asshole and making people’s lives harder. You can say the wrong pronouns legally but that doesn’t mean you won’t be treated like the insensitive person you are. You also have the freedom of speech to be racist and sexist but that doesn’t mean racist and sexist people shouldn’t be told that there wrong and educated. It’s freedom of speech not freedom of consequence.
Oh cool! I've never seen anyone with this combo of identities before but I'm really interested in how they converge! How would you say your identities interact with each other? Do your otherkin and two-spirit identities conflict in any way? I'm curious!
“Odd pronouns” I don’t use those pronouns, but to call them odd, well that’s extremely rude. Imagine if I called you by the wrong pronouns because I thought yours were “odd.” You would be really upset
@@jasper9434 not trying to be rude. Just odd pronouns like ze or zir are strange. An odd invention of the modern times is all. I personally think it's silly and childish. But some people take it more serious.
dualboy24 you are being rude, tho. They’re people’s pronouns. It doesn’t matter if you’re not trying to be rude. It still is. I don’t want to get really mad and start being rude so I’ll just stop here
@@dualboy24 You understand that language is always changing right??? There are obviously going to be new words and such, and they might seem stranget, too. All you have to do is respect other people's pronouns. It's basic human decency.
@@willoww6822 It's still very rare to have or hear about alternative pronouns. Not a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly encounter from what I observe. Perhaps in time it will become more common or accepted, with the younger generations getting older, as they seem to have a virtual monopoly on this issue, but it takes time, and for older generations (~maybe mine even 40+) to understand it more. Right now I can say I know no one with an alternative pronoun, so it is most likely a tiny tiny fraction of a percent of people that use these. And the only way we even hear about this topic is on the news/youtube, like this video. I would probably just refer to the person by name to avoid having any issue about pronouns, especially if the person is sensitive about it (which would make me wary at that point lol :) Now if I meet a strange who I don't know I will probably just refer to them by how my brain identifies them, which is normal, if they want to let me know their name and such I will adjust appropriately out of respect.
yall english natives are adding new pronouns everyday and istg it makes it harder especially for non english natives 😐 idc if this transphobkc or enbyphobic it confuzzles me everytime and my brain cant remember anything about these pronouns
@@alexasweet8430 no it's not ♥️ I'm not a native English speaker and it's not easy for me to learn all these pronouns but if this is what the people i talk to want me to use to feel comfortable then I'm here to fucking learn
If I meet someone out in the open world, and they immediately say, “I go by the pronouns xe/xir” or something like that, not even a proper greeting, I’m just gonna walk away.
When you worry more about the shit to be called rather than worrying about your actual self...people are def gonna lose themselves. The world's half way dying and we worried about pronouns smh
terrible stuff is happening all the time, all around the world. that doesn't mean we always have to be running around panicking about it and spending all our time trying to fix it. people want to be called a certain way because they figured out who they are and they want other people to see them for that. we can't live our lives only focused on things that are "more important" because there will always be something "more important"
@@hannahfennell2348 If people misgendering you is the worst thing that can happen to you then you are privileged. There's absolutely no need to create an issue that is not even an issue in the first place. If people want to live in their delusions they are free to do so but don't get mad if others don't like/don't want to accommodate to your "preferred pronouns". If I see that you are clearly female I will refer to you as she/her not he/him.
So I'm an alternate gender, every other day I change from male to female. I need you all to know what days I change and use the correct language or I'm really offended..............lol nah just kidding I would never force language use on another as I am a normal human being.
Yeah that's not how nonbinary or genderfluid people work. They just be theirselves and really don't change their gender on a day-to-day basis. It's more like theyre gender expression varies, like one day they will wear a skirt and makeup but after a while (a day, a week, a month even) they'll wear more unisex/masculine clothing and ditch the makeup.
I'm all for respecting people's choices of pronouns, the only thing that bugs me about they/them/their, specifically, as pronouns is when they're used in place of "he/she" (for example), because then you end up with incorrect grammar like "they is" which just sounds all kinds of wrong, grammatically speaking. If they want to use they/them/their, that's fine! I'd just really appreciate sticking with proper grammar, that's all. "They are" *can still* refer to one individual, after all; there's no reason to rewrite grammar rules when the desired case is already covered! Unfortunately this specific point is never mentioned in *many* explanations across the Internet such as that in this video. Again, I'm happy to use any pronouns people choose for themselves, it's just when it violates grammar that I feel like I have to just "grin and bare it", and put up with it. This is as opposed to accepting happily, wholeheartedly and unconditionally, which I otherwise have done.
They as a singular has been used for centuries in the human language. I can’t believe people still act like they haven’t said this pronoun to describe a person of unknown gender.
Hi, I use he/they, and just wanted to quickly say that most people that use they/them pronouns use it like "they are" instead of changing it to "they is", so it's not as confusing! :)
@@ImRanchWilder I'm not sure what you're trying to communicate? If you're showing that it's possible to use they/them in that way, then don't worry about it because I already knew, and said nothing against it. If you're trying to say it doesn't make sense, then I don't wish to continue this conversation due to your ignorance.
The main language spoken in the Philippines (Tagalog) does not have a separate pronoun for 'he' or 'she'. 'Siya' is a gender-neutral pronoun used to refer to both males and females.
I will NEVER ask somebody their pronouns or say I go by certain pronouns. I respect whatever you want to be called, but don't police or expect me to walk some fine line so you feel better.
@@kioko8968 no it isn't at this point there are like 500+ pronouns that each person makes up, how can each person expect us to remember what to call them? No one is special
@@kioko8968 tahts what i meant I'm ok with they/them but none of those weird ass stuff like "xir" or anything like that. Also, that's not even what an incel means LOL, throwing random insults isn't going to help your argument in any way. Im saying if everyone had pronouns for themselves, they cant expect others to memorize it just for them, chill
Since there are already a couple dozen pronouns, theres bound to be more that pop up. Aren’t pronouns mostly used so you don’t have to refer to someone by their name and it’s easier to have a couple pronouns than just going by names all the time. If there’s that many pronouns and you have to remember them as you remember someone’s name (almost unique to one or two people in an averages person’s circle) then wouldn’t pronouns be redundant? If theres as many pronouns as names itself, why would you need to use them in everyday speech? Don’t mean to sound rude, i honestly don’t understand.
The human mind recognises 3 things when first meeting another person. Gender, race, and age. It does not recognise 2,000 genders because there are two. So society will not and has not made up genders just to feel special because it's useless.
I remember trying to fool other kids by claiming to speak another language and actually making up one when I was young, I sounded exactly like hir thir xin zir or whatever
And that is why most people don't feel comfortable around non binary/non conforming/wierd ass folks, you make it too hard and wierd trying to communicate with you. That most would rather not speak to you at all.
This comment section did not pass the vibe check. Transphobia? In 2020? Respect people’s pronouns it’s simple and you would want that for yourself. In other words, cisgender (afab) women would you like it if someone continued to use he/him pronouns instead of your preferred she/her pronouns? Same with cisgender (amab) men would you like if someone used she/her pronouns to refer to you? Of course not. Use people’s preferred pronouns it’s like using someone’s name. It’s simple.
@@nopentireiii2147 Well I mean they aren't. Neo pronouns have been around for centuries, and they/them has been used even before the birth of she/her and he/him pronouns. It's not tiring if you do your part and educate yourself. That's why they make these videos. Here I'll help you: He went to the grocery store. -Ze went to the grocery store. She looked at herself in the mirror. -Ze looked at zirself in the mirror. The only thing stopping you from understanding neo pronouns and they/them pronouns is to educate yourself. Ignorance is a choice. Here is a example of a time where you (Yes you!) would have to use they/them pronouns. I found their lost dog! I'll have to contact them. ~ In this scenario you don't know the gender identity of the person so, you simply use they/them pronouns. It's easier then saying he or she that's why me and you and everyone who speaks english, uses these sets of pronouns subconsciously. It's seriously not that hard. Like I said, your just a google search away from the claws of ignorance.
Not wanting to learn a whole new dictionary of words just to address some person is transphobic? Get your shit together and start being a functional member of society.
@@surrealistic.cereal I get it but so far I've been hearing what they are but not why and how people came to the decision to choose them for themselves.
Not to mention it's not even an issue at all, they do not understand that you can never get out of the "male/female" spectrum, all this "nonbinary" stuff is just variations of it, or as we used to call "PERSONALITY", these are just people that are so privileged that pronouns is the worst thing in their lives lmao. This doesn't even have to do with Trans people either, it's just a narcissistic agenda by again, primarily WHITES.
@Rayen Makovere actually to a lot of people these pronouns aren't just words, it can make people feel really uncomfortable to be called by certain pronouns and just because you're fine with it doesn't mean other people are!
Pronouns are so stupid. I actually don’t care, I will only say they, them, their and nothing else. But I think THEY need a gender lesson. Listen up. If the person has banana, than it’s a boy, no banana, means girl. Simple
@@jamesleodelacruz Idc what ppl call me. I am a girl and I use she/her ofc, But really I don't have time to fight over pronouns with ppl. So i let them call me whatever tbh
This is one of the inconsistencies of liberals. They often shout about "MY BODY IS MY AUTHORITY", but not really consistent with that principle. If "MY BODY IS MY AUTHORITY" doesn't mean "MY MOUTH IS MY AUTHORITY"? what right do people have to control my mouth? Asking (even forcing) me to say / not say certain things. This is my mouth, it's up to me to use what my mouth is for. "MY BODY IS MY AUTHORITY" right?
the phrase "my body my choice" refers specifically to the legality of abortion. No one is saying using the wrong pronouns should be against the law. No one is "forcing" you to use preferred pronouns. If you want to be a dick, go ahead and be a dick. But you can't expect people to like you if you choose to be a dick. Honestly, if they did try to legally punish people who intentionally misgender others, most of the country, including trans people, would be against it. I know i would.
@@kushsharma972 There is also no hope that I want to be liked by other people. The point is, please don't like me, but don't mess with me. As long as you don't experience any material and physical harm, then leave me with my life. That is precisely the inconsistency lies. Why only in the case of abortion and not in other cases? In Canada, constitutionally established rules regarding the language of gender. Until jordan peterson is against it.
Answer me this. If pronouns don't reflect gender, then why would a woman change their pronouns from she/her to he/him if there's no meaning in it? Like come on that's just taking it too far
So, if I am in the room and someone is talking to me, I prefer you, you, your, yours. What they call me when they called when not addressing me, is actually their business. As my grandmother used to say, call me anything you like except late for dinner.
Nope. We need he/him, she/her and they/them. Just because you don’t think other genders exist doesn’t mean their not there. You can choose to stay ignorant or educate yourself on lgbtq+
Lexie Tibbs wtf. Literally lgbtq+ does have science to back it up. A lot actually, have you done any research at all. Now we can pretend their isn’t any science for a second but it wouldn’t matter because human rights come first. Why shouldn’t people be able to love who they want without getting harassed, murdered, beat, and bullied. Why is it so hard for you to let people live their lives and be happy. Please name one person or thing that they are hurting by living their lives. Also please stop ignoring the fact that intersex and multiple other types of sex’s exist. It’s not just male and female. Gender is a social construct not science.
Why should you have to? Gender is biological, and its importance in speech primarily a social contruct. If someone who is biologically female is therefore always called "she", so what! If a female then feel they have attributes that do not align with many/most other females so what! Calling them "he" instead of "she" is going to "fix" or achieve what exactly? The issue is entirely in people's minds and ultimately their assumptions and choice to be offended. All these pronouns are little more than the ever growing lengths (a minority of) people are going to, to be privileged and in truth just outraged over nothing of any true importance. IMHO
@@NFawc in your example not calling them he and calling them she on purpose can be so demoralizing to a trans person that if you do it enough they may kill themselves and that blood is on no one's hands but your's if you purposefully misgender a trans person you may make them very depressed that's why you shouldn't misgender people and correct yourself when you're wrong
@@truetransoul586 Understood, BUT, if we're going to be governed by people unable to deal with "hurty feelings", where will that take us? Maybe people need to learn to better deal with issues (eg:gender dysphoria) rather than expecting the world to revolve around them? I have no issue calling someone by any name they wish to go by. But lying about scientific facts for hurty feelings? No... Dangerous and counter productive.
@@NFawc There are scientific studies that prove that being transgender is more than 'I'm a boy and like pink & barbies'. According to those studies it has to do with how the brains of transgendered people are structured. It is disrespectful to call someone by the wrong pronounces but if you genuinely don't know them and just assume them because of how someone looks it shouldn't be a problem (in my opinion) as long as when someone tells you their pronounces you try to use them. It's understandable if you refuse to use ze/zir and stuff like that because those are foreign words but when it comes to he/him, she/her & they/them you should at least try to use the right ones.
@@cheryltomaatje9326 And those same scientists will confirm every human is genetically male or female. Take whatever drugs you like. Chop off whatever you like. Go by any name or description you like. Your DNA does not lie... I have no issue calling someone by what ever name they wish. But lying about what their DNA states as a fact about their gender achieves what?
Idk dude, you are reallllly confusing me with the lack of a comma, and the "or".... Are you like. Speaking a new language or something, I'm too lazy to try and decipher that malarkey
I feel like people are forgetting we use pronouns because we don't remember or don't want to learn your f**king name. It defeats the purpose if we have to remember a stranger's or enemy's pronouns...
I identify as Michael Jackson. My pronouns are he/hee.
Lmao
(Edit: I swear to god I keep on going back to this video and find this comment and I can’t stop laughing at it)
This made me laugh more than it should have
@•Løvely_trashx • it’s pretty funny, like this if you thought it was funny
@•Løvely_trashx • you have the least brain activity I’ve ever seen. He’s not mocking it. He’s making a joke about pronouns which in turn normalizes them. So you should be happy and follow along. That’s why a lot of former dark humor topics have become normalized. Its a common process
@•Løvely_trashx • I also looked at your account. You have a playlist with a remix of Alex Jones saying the waters turning the frogs gay. Isn’t that making fun of gay people and their sexuality? Or is it different because you say so?
There's a lot of gay people in our family, my uncle told his son, "You didn't have a choice to be gay, but you have a choice to be a bitch or not" that was good parenting.
That's good parenting....I feel sorry for your family...
What a legend
@@christopher9010 ok
This is great parenting, truly.
Based uncle 👏
I kidnapped zem and zey are in ze attic
Oh, so the attic happens to be trans now?
Don’t let zim come out
Uh oh is the attic the new closet
😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😜😂🤣🤣😂😜
When you’re French
If there's neutral singular they, why do we need the rest?
not everyone feels like "they" is the right fit for them - the fun thing about pronouns is that even if something is just "fine", it can be nice to break out and use the pronouns that make you happy and represent you a a person! Some non binary people use he or she pronouns, some binary people use they/them, and anyone can use any pronouns they feel best represent their own identity! It's a cool tool for self expression!
Jay Viney this made me so happy reading this because most people I meet say my pronouns are they/them and not he/they. Someone even said my pronouns were “girl.” Your reply was also really nice even tho the comment didn’t seem very nice. Idk why I’m saying this. I’m just bored lol
Because they want to be edgy and “special”. Don’t pander to the nonsense
Jay Viney is it because people are trying to be aesthetic . just use they/them. the rest seem a bit redundant
@@James-yy4vl neo pronouns aren't edgy though
I refuse to believe this is where we're going.
Same
Same
Same
Yep. The world's completely fucked because of literal mental patients like this
@@ryanlanning7344 Yeah, very true
my pronouns are "young money" / "cash money"
thas dope man
okay birdman
Sometimes people get confused about gender identity and... uh.. Actually, if you want to be called "Cash Money", there's actually no good reason why you can't just call yourself that, and everyone has to play along
Good for you, I'm glad you could find yourself and if you're comfortable with those pronouns then I respect that.
that’s cool.
I’m honestly tired of this, people get offended by everything nowadays.
*by
@@shotoeia6489 my bad
@@user-ee9tu1kh5i no. Lol
I get he/she/they but i dont even understand what ze is😳
@@RitCore then just dont associate urself with ppl who use those pronouns?? It’s better than disrespecting the persons pronouns
this is why i love my native language (filipino). we don't have pronouns based on gender, we just use one set of pronouns "siya/niya" :-) even for most words, we don't really have differences (for example, son/daughter have no counterpart each, we just say "anak"=child, or sister/brother is just "kapatid"=sibling. we do have specific terms for older brother/sister tho [kuya/ate respectively])
cool. do you refer to older friends with Kuya/Ate like the Thais do (Pi/Nong) and call them brothers & sisters, or is it only a family thing?
I noticed that about Tagalog/Filipino and I thought it was cool that pronouns weren't gendered. The only confusing thing is when native Filipino speakers also learn English. My mother would constantly use the wrong pronoun for our cat, sometimes switching mid-sentence. And at Filipino gatherings the wrong English pronouns fly around like crazy. Me and the other 1st-generation Americans get misgendered and mixed up all the time, but it's no big deal.
I am sure the PC police would create a few more!
same
That's not what this video is about.
The people who want to be identified differently and making pronouns and stuff.. feels like they're seperating themselves and increasing gap between majority of people.
Can men and women be friends and work together despite using him and she respectively. Yes? Than its the same with people who use neo-pronouns. It's not a way for people to separate themselves from others, it's a way for them to feel comfortable with themselves
@@gilly_axolotl can you explain?
now that there are probably dozens of pronouns and will be dozens more in upcoming time.
Showing that there's no system for them and showing that they're result of subjective invention.
I'd rather say him or her according to their phenotype.
*main not man
People can call themselves whatever they want, that's not my issue nor the issue the majority has, the issue is that they are trying to force this nonsense down ppl's throats BY LAW, that's totally unacceptable and people have already been fired because of this nonsense.
@@DarknessIsThePathcan you provide sources for that?
If they don’t want to be labeled with pronouns just they can tell me their first name and there’s the solution
@@emeryjem then you call "them" Alex.
@@emeryjem Why the shrug? you asked the question.
@@emeryjem Well, don’t mention them at all. You were obviously trying to warrant a response.
@@emeryjem Nope, don't support that.
@@emeryjem no one cares that you're trans. It's not a personality trait. Tf are you, nikita dragun?
My pronoun is "your majesty".
😂
Mine is "Billionaire Playboy".
I identify as a Billionaire Playboy, and it is the role of the state to ensure that my actual life is congruous with my identification.
Real original, as if anyone who even remotely looks into social media doesn’t remember the college backlash when some prominent male told his class to refer to him as “your majesty”. Never heard that one before
@@philorgneopolotin8762 stfu
that’s not a pronoun that’s a name...
I mean, when you say “how would you feel,” I personally wouldn’t care if someone kept trying to use the wrong pronouns. Only people who struggle with their gender care.
Just remember you cannot force others to use certain speech.
Finn Harris I never suggested anyone was forcing anyone, just gently reminding people it is unacceptable to do so.
Finn Harris Ok so don’t have a fit when someone doesn’t.
Finn Harris. If you re watch the video he clearly states that you must do it
@milkmandan77 Believe me, it won't...
At the very least, they will NEVER force people to call someone something as absurd as "Ze"/"Hir"/"Zir"/"or any other made up Word, sorry I meant Made up 'Pronouns' "
And if does go through, I, like a LOT of People will not Follow that Stupid "Law". I don't care what/how you Identify, and it shouldn't matter either! Were all humans beings and we have to respect one another, but Making up BS Pronouns and try to Force them down People's Throats is no way to get yourself recognized as a Separate Gender...
In closing, I just want to remind everyone that all this Movement is doing is Harming the way people see Transgender People!
I have nothing against anyone, as long as they don't want to push their agenda onto me, or force me to behave a certain way, or make a Huge Deal out of "Using the 'Correct' Pronoun", but "Correct" is YOUR definition...the Majority of People would never say that using Made Up Pronouns is "Correct"...
People don't become "Incorrect" just because they don't agree with you! That's not the way the world works...
Just like the Anti Fat Shaming Movement who basically try to force Everyone to Change their Preferences to Include Fat, Obese and even sometimes Morbidly Obese people that don't do anything to help their situation...
Just like Anti-Fa and the other ridiculous movement from the (Extreme) Right trying to Shove their "Correctness" down our Throat, whether or not we agree!
First- "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." -Thomas Jefferson
and
Second- "You can catch more Flies with Honey than with Vinegar" - Unknown (Though I prefer the Alternative Proverb: "You can catch more Bees with Honey than with Vinegar", it's actually True, since Flies, Fruit Flies anyways, are also attracted to Vinegar, maybe more so than to Honey...for Once and I think it also illustrates it's Meaning more Clearly without other More Confusing Negative Meanings associated with it...)
P.S: If you do know who that Second Proverb is from, please let me know...
@milkmandan77 Yeah but Jordan Peterson is one of few if not the only one who says that Bill C-16 would actually give this amount of power and latitude. Most others have mentioned that this would only be applied when there is ACTUAL Hate Speech and using the "Wrong" Pronoun for someone, no matter the race, sex or gender, does not nor will it ever fall under "Hate Speech".
I guess you could say that the person who refuses to use such Pronouns could be labeled as "Not Pro-Gender Pronouns Use" but I fail to see how refusing to use certain words, and even some that aren't even words, but entirely made up "Pronouns"...how would this be construed as "Hate Speech"?
I really don't think that refusing to use certain words, as opposed to using certain words you shouldn't use like Racial Slurs/(Extreme) Sexist Remarks and things of the sort would be much more likely to fall under "Hate", but NOT using a word can't really be "Hate", at least not because someone has decided that they want to be called a certain way...
(Ex: Would a Doctor be allowed to get you Fined or whatever the consequence for Not using the "Dr." prefix or even Refusing to Call Him/Her "Dr." entirely?)
(No matter what you answered to the above Parenthesis, then that should clarify whether or not You think it should be a Constitutional Law or Not...or rather whether you think Jordan Peterson still has a valid point or not...)
BTW: Isn't nice to have a pleasant Conversation even if our points of view aren't exactly the same?
Cheers to those few Quality Convos!
P.S: In case this is coming from Steven Crowder's videos...as much as I like him and respect his opinions on Politics and serious Divisive Issues in the United States, as someone living presently in Canada, Montreal to be exact, where he also comes from...but somehow, this seems to make him biased because he tends to no use a real Journalistic Reporting Style when doing anything about Canada...
What I mean is that instead of having a Question, going to the right place to get these answers, finding said answers and then making his report. He seems to be going off his past experiences (he left at 18 and is born in 87...so a LONG Time AGO...) and making a report based on that while doing anything to arrive to that conclusion...He's not asking a question and trying to find an answer. He already has the answer he wants to present and just goes at it all wrong to prove his false claim...which is based on very old experiences/memories...
I love my laguange bc no gendering pronouns
Oooo which language is your language!
@@emeryjem malay ! ^^
@@Alya-hs6yn Cool!
I love my language things have gender
Lucky
Ze,zir is just made up weird non pronouns. I'm trans & some fake pronouns are to much for me
THANK YOU
I hate that non binary people think that are trans too and inject them self into trans problems it's totally different things bruh
First name is enough if you really are that sensitive and have to use pronouns so you wont cry when someone call you a he/her
@@bobmcbarry5426 non binary people are actually trans, anyone that is not cisgender is trans.
@Boop non binary people are real and valid why hate on someone who’s not harming you. also neopronouns have existed for centuries going all the way back to ancient egyptian times. they are real and we can use them. it makes people feel themselves we don’t need to explain why we feel comfortable with these pronouns we just do. and the he/him and she/her pronouns aren’t gendered at all. gender does not equal pronouns at all. you need to do your research on these topics before you say anything. ok?
I identify as King. My pronouns are “your/his majesty.”
How quirky of you to tell a joke everyone tells all the time.
@@justyourlocalcommenter7492 if someone forces me to use pronouns which don’t reflect reality, then I can too. I can play pretend as well.
@@stephenm8233 what pronouns don’t reflect reality?
@@justyourlocalcommenter7492 anything that doesn’t correspond with their chromosomes.
If you’re a female, I will not call you “sir,” etc.
I will also not be forced to learn new vocabulary just to make you feel better, due to gender dysphoria.
@@justyourlocalcommenter7492 it boils down to truth. I will not call you what you “feel” like, rather than what you actually are.
I have trans friends and I love trans people and I never intentionally misgender someone but no one has the right to control your vocabulary because their self esteem wants it that way
Shut tf up
Ah yes “but”, a transphobes favorite word
You are correct.
@@jasper9434 Found the special little snowflake :)
@@arielwalton4424 Free speech? Or is that only allowed for lgbts?
I love how you all ignore the fact that there are tons of languages that can't possibly work in that way
Literally ever romance or Germanic language
i mean- the video is in english
@@wyvernsden3385 Yeah. So?
I ment that a many languages can't use gender-neutral pronouns while reffering to people and you sure as hell can't create new ones just like that
@@sono_chi_no_sodium_chlorid7635 but the video is for english speakers and does not apply for non english speakers? I get what you mean but each language is a different, well, language.
@@wyvernsden3385 I have never seen them provide an exemption for such languages.
They even insist that Latinx is a word. It's not limited to English. This applies to all languages.
I would like to be called "my lord" from here on out
ChingonAutentico damn my lord, you are smart!
ChingonAutentico 😁👏
@@kungpulor1095 much obliged!
Ok my lord
@milkmandan77 hello again
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent" -Qui Gon Jinn
well said, this dude gotta shut up tbh.
That quote from 1999 movie still aged well
Agreed and it's still relevant for most people. If they have something dumb to say, then they don't need to say it.
These kids are hurting the gay community without knowing it. lol
Fellow human, stop giving words so much power.
Theu seek validation from strangers, that's what neo pronouns are and I hope society won't bow down to them.
Ur the one giving them power by taking offense to the idea, despite it not harming you
@@gilly_axolotl Being in intellectual disagreement with a concept isn't the same as being offended. They're making a big deal out of nothing by giving the words too much power.
@@cloudambient who are "they" and how are they giving the words too much power?
@@gilly_axolotl pronoun enthusiasts. they're literally always saying "pronouns are an/the most important part of a person's identity". that's a sad existence.
If you want to be called she, he, or them then fine, but if you want to be called ze, xe, or any other weird thing I'm not gonna even bother bc I don't even know how I would use those
that's transphobic ♥️ just thought I'd let you know.
Same
@@franny6221 Nope
ze, xe and shit like that are simply not valid pronouns
Exactly wtf
@@franny6221 good.
Pronouns for males:
He/Him
Pronouns for females:
She/Her
Pronouns for somebody that you don't know is a male or a female *yet* :
They/Them
Every other "pronoun": Non existent.
Class dismissed.
facts. absolute facts.
Fax
tru
thank you
@@rowl333 isn't it a shame that we've reached that point in life that we need to explain this shit??
Dude, I’m finna unlearn English and live in a cave, what the fuck
Take me with you
@@rykensnow only men and woman
Hey am also coming
The best option at this point
I identify as The God. My preferred pronouns are His Holiness/His Graciousness
🤣🤣
I identify as one of your disciples.
I cant tell if ur making fun of people using neopronouns or not 😩
@@leiacartier2259 he is making fun of it, because it is laughable. “Ze/Hir” hahahah you can’t just make words up and think other people have to say them🤣🤣
@@leiacartier2259 Neo-pronouns are just a small-scale form of far left control. Making words up and telling people they should use them out of respect because you're too good for "they/them"? Bore off.
Just remember that using an individuals preferred pronoun isn't political correctness, it's just being polite!
its political correctness
It’s for idiots who think everyone else has to care about their feelings when in reality they should just get over themselves.
So, it's politeness to tell a schizophrenic that people ARE following him around and they ARE out to get him? That is the exact same logic.
I say this as a member of the LGBTQ community: I would refer to you by "he" because that's what you identify as and that's fine, I'll defend your right to be what you want until the end. It's the made up nonsense words that myself and many others draw the line at. I have yet to find anyone that can actually explain what the individual made up pronouns mean. All they do is cause confusion and make conversation that refers to someone who uses said pronouns way more difficult than it needs to be. You can pretend like it doesnt, but it does. If your well-being hinges on someone referring to you by the correct pronoun then you have more serious problems to deal with, and especially if you're self-centered enough to want to use your own unique made up pronoun.
I kinda agree with zir
r/asablackman
Exactly. No way im gonna call someone zir zie. Ill call them they they’re because thats an actual pronoun.
@George Washingmachine yo im sugma/balls too
😴
I’m 29 but I identify as a old Chinese woman but identify as a 88 year old Vietnamese man sometimes 🙃
Clowns 🙃
I identify as a german tank Panzerkampfwagan.
I'm French but sometimes I identify as Polish when I'm depressed.
Top 10 ways to make people religious again
Weeb, argument invalid
We live in the dumbest era in human history smh
Sad isn’t it?
Never had a problem with they/them. But ze/zir is just....no.
angelofdeath275 exactly what im saying lmao
I use they/them/it/its/ze/zir/xe/xem pronouns.
Gender and language is a social construct and people should be able to present themselves however they want, do what makes you most comfortable. Using those pronouns is what makes me feel comfortable and happy and that's why I use them. I really don't care about the gender binary as long as I'm comfortable within my own mind and body.
Court Jester shut up
Court Jester Your name really suits you considering the jokes you’re spitting. Now let me drop some real knowledge on you. Gender _ROLES_ are social constructs. Gender itself is science.
@@bsgfan1 gender is not biological, sex is, and sex≠gender. sex can be male, female or intersex, and gender is a spectrum.
The world has gone soft. The beginning of the end is upon us
I understand They/them but neo pronouns are just being ridiculous
exactly im not calling you venus/venuself and its really not good to support those things. people like that need genuine help
People just want to feel like something fits and if that's an inconvince to you I'm so sorry but people aren't gonna stop trying to be themselves just so your little cisgender mind can be happy
@@user-ee9tu1kh5i what so you mean
wdym 'force them to play along'
@@harryferguson1812 I think they mean that it's fine if people want to be called other pronouns, but it does seem a bit difficult to remember all of the neo pronouns; they/them, she/her, and he/him are easier to remember and it's (at least for me) easy to remember which pronouns my acquaintances prefer when it's one of those three, but honestly I'm so lost with the neo pronouns sometimes like ze/zir or xe/xyr, I've tried reading up on them but I still don't know how to use them and I have no idea when they apply either
I'm not doing it and I don't give a shit if you're upset about it.
oh zir means button in arabic ahhh how ironic
Loool
Skoaoakakqiqiauqu صرخت
Hahaha!!!! Push those buttons. I love to see them rattled over non existent snowflake pronouns 👍👍👍
ما لاحظت 😹
Look man, I’ll support they/themes and genderfluids, but these ze/zir things realistically aren’t going to work. Like, no one is going to call you that.
edit: i made this comment a while ago, and i’ve had time to grow and mature as a person since then. i understand what i said before could be seen as hurtful and offensive, and this point and time, i could care less as to what you want me to refer to you as, as long as it isn’t offensive or making mockery of pronouns. i’ve changed as a person and I now support neopronouns, and i apologize if i’ve hurt or offended anyone.
Uhh, I would. So I just proved your point wrong
i would
I would, sounds cool, at least to me
I would. Neopronouns are valid and awesome.
I won't
I think that it is ridiculous that now in order to not offend someone, when meeting them for the first time, the first question is expected to be “what is your pronoun“. What has happened to us!?!
its the same as asking someones name? its really simple and just how you would refer to them
@@asher8130 its bs
@@planesimple8619 its just how to refer to someone? it doesnt offened everyone but it is easier
I've never asked anyone that in my life, and nobody has asked it to me.
@@asher8130 that just makes it more complicated. If people didn't have to ASK for pronouns it would be much easier
The best way to do is don't ever try to interact with these people. It saves alot of time and braincells.
I agree, the second they get offended because you're not part of their delusional cult I walk away.
Gender neutral pronouns (they/their) were constructed and are generally only in use for the sole purpose of mentioning an item that you do not know the owner of or a group of people/items. They are not meant for someone to use for himself/herself. And also if someone wanted to call me she/her I personally would not give a shit because I know who I am and their(used in the context that I do not know if it’s a male or female that would be doing this to me) words do not define who I am. If you allow anyone else’s words or opinions to control you or upset you because they were “wrong” then you only give that person power over you and you will lose every time. Knowing who you are personally is more important than others getting your “preferred pronoun” correct. If you don’t know who you are, then that is the big issue here. Focus on that before you try to police others into following whatever rule you set in place.
Ch1tbag hell yes
Agreed! When I finally learned of this power, I learned I can get people to leave me alone just by giving opposite or neutral responses to their button pushing. If I'm in whatever mood I'm in, I'll push that button in accordance to that mood (maliciously; friendly tease/make fun of something absurd; OR playing Devil's Advocate to get people to think their own position through, even if I completely agree with that position.)
"Clean your room" as the quote says.
I use they/them pronouns and these are used to refer to non-binary people and someone who’s gender identity you don’t know.
@@NatureLover-pj2qe I have had a large change of perspective since that comment was originally made. I have learned a great deal more and do see things differently now. But I still hold the belief that no matter what you refer (he, she, they, them, etc.) the more you give someone else power to upset you by being hurt or offended when they say your non preferred pronoun, the weaker you make yourself. If you use they/them or any other specifics, then the only people you should care about offending you at the ones you personally choose to acquaint yourself with on the regular. But being offended by a stranger you do not know using the wrong pronoun only gives them power over you and makes you weaker. That will still be my stance for the rest of my life because as I taught my ex (who is trans ftm) what you know yourself to be is more important than what some asshole who doesn’t know you thinks.
If someone looks like a girl I’m gonna call call them a she, if they look like a guy I’ll call them a he. People really put in that much effort for a single word in a sentence
"call THEM a she"
"call THEM a he"
@@narnar2360 I was using proper grammar?
@@obamaslastname7617 i wasn't correcting you. i pointed out that you did in fact "put effort" into using gender neutral pronouns
There's a reason why this video has more dislikes than likes.
@Chandler Corbitt The reason is no one cares. Imma just call them "it". Only three pronouns - he, she and it.
@Kasane Teto Trans "people" just want attention
@Kasane Teto I invalidate their existence
WTF! 😅🙄 I will just call people by their names. I dont want be part of this insanity
Sheep.
In Thailand sawadikap means “hello”. It's a greeting. But “sawadi-ka” is for females and “sawadi-krap” is for males. Many countries will have a tough time adjusting many parts of their language for all the different genders.
Also, good luck converting the mentality of South East Asian countries. Western countries want to believe that we’re as soft and kind as they are but nah.
That's because in 2000 years of language development this was not an issue, a few years of insanity and twitter, this is the result.
the transphobia in the comments omg
IKR??? I am literally shaking and crying right now
I think you mean common sense
I’m sorry but I am NOT going to refer to you as a “zIR”. They/thems, genderfluids, everything else is fine, but this is ridiculous. Faes? Really? I-
@@AlejandroLopez-cb3py not common sense. transphobia.
common sense is fine, but not transphobia
@@AlejandroLopez-cb3py transphobia is the irrational hatred and fear of trans people. idc you're still a bigot
If you DEMAND that I make a sound YOU want me to make, I proclaim this is “SEXUAL ABUSE SURVIVOR PHOBIC”. I will do nothing with MY BODY, my throat, my breath, unless I CONSENT. If the idea of consent isn’t respected, or if you truly don’t care, this can lead to suicides too.
To DEMAND “any bodily ability” of someone who may not want to (for your gain) is FORCE and could be considered abusive.
Just bring back thee, thou, they instead of adding like 64 more pronouns
No.
64 pronouns cuz its a stack in Minecraft
@@theorangedinosaur4098 Some of them stack to 16 though. What would those be?
Ngl that would sound pretty cool lol
@@jasper9434 I personally am not supportive of this pronoun thing, but I'm just bringing up practical solutions so it's a win-win.
Another way you guys can stop using unnecessary pronouns is....I dunno...use the person's name instead...
Seem to me that we all have to walk on eggshells, even asking someone's pronouns is apparently making them feel "the odd one out".
People don't have to call someone by their preferred pronouns, it is well within someone's right to disagree or question someone's actions regardless. I dont't have to call someone they/them or zey/zir or whatever especially if their attitude is denouncing someone as transphobic or asking questions or having different opinions.
Basically this is just another case of a large group of people with the "you're either with us or against us" mindset. Taking away freedom of speech doesn't solve the problem, its like putting newspaper over a puddle of piss and saying its clean. Freedom of speech brought LGBT into acceptance because it allowed people to question obscene views and standards over things which weren't harming anyone.
Wow, let's defend the rights of an individual to be mortaly offended by anyone who says something that doesn't quite align with their own personal preferences, beliefs, personal sensitivities, way of life, or newly-created way of referring to themself. This world is becoming a place where everyone has to tiptoe around everyone else. I could identify and dress as a tiger and insist on using the pronoun 'meow' - on this basis, that's my right - but expecting everyone to accommodate that fantasy is not very realistic and it wouldn't be reasonable for me to take offense when people don't, even if I'm clearly wearing my tiger onesy. I'm just taking this nonsense to its logical conclusion.
He has played so many RPGs that he thinks he is an Avatar who can reset every time the day starts.
Okay but using any other pronouns other than She/her He/Him They/Them, I am not going to use them. There is absolutely no purpose to why other pronouns should exist.
Same 👍
Me too. I basically pretend to not know English when people like that talk to me. 🙂
@@Whypeoplebad Pls su.
You people want to be taken seriously but you have a goddamn Harvard maths professor create a new algorithm for you 2 times a month to randomly generate 7 letter strings of text so you can use as pronouns
Announcing your personal pronouns is narcissistic power-play. Like it or not, this is the truth.
All these people should wear capes because they are all super special in their own minds.
Pronouns are what others use to label and describe you. You don't get to pick how others view you.
Wow! Now ableism is getting in here!
I identify as dad. My pronouns are l’m/your/father.
This is one of the reasons education in north america has fallen behind several countries in recent years.
Hello yes cringe department? I'd like to report some cringe.
🅱️ased
You are free to be whatever gender you want but don't expect the rest of us to agree with your identity. You don't get to dictate how everyone else sees gender in the world.
I still don't understand so I'm going to research more videos, I've always called trans people by what they identified but I still don't understand ze/zer...
Some people use nongendered pronouns and feel much more comfortable doing so. The example you stated is just an exampme of one :)
It's for people who want special attention.
@•Løvely_trashx • so since it’s not my business, it’s not my business to refer to someone as ze/zir.
I’m not changing the way I speak and use English for anyone. I will gladly use they/them instead if it comes down to it.
@•Løvely_trashx • I will gladly use a trans person’s preferred pronouns. Those include she/her, he/him, and they/them. I will not change the way I speak (ze/zir) so they can feel more “comfortable”. Using made up words would make me uncomfortable, so I would refer to them by their name, but use they/them if it came down to it.
@•Løvely_trashx • okay, how does one transition from she/her into ze/zir?
This is insanity.
@@vampdem0n614 a woman IS a she/her!
Obsessing over sexuality and gender is weird. Male or Female. Everything else means you’re asking others to live in a delusion they don’t understand
I identify as the Queen of England. I demand you call me Your Highness
Wow, this video has certainly attracted many angry & insecure transphobic trolls. That means you're doing a good job PinkNews & Mr. Bird!
some of my friends are trans and im bi. My childhood best friend who is like a brother to me is trans in fact. We don't like neopronouns they make a joke out of the trans community and people who actually struggle with gender dysphoria. Most trans people don't like neopronouns and joke about them. Same with the tumblr genders lmao look it up before calling everyone here trolls. Btw almost everything supporting neopronouns and tumblr genders is on tumblr where the idea of neopronouns and tumbler genders came from. Keep in mind I'm not talking about non binary or like gender fluid, those are different and they usually use they/them her/she he/him depending on how they feel.
you're the transphobe by creating/playing into fictional gender identities to sum up what people wish to be known as which completely invalidate what pronouns are for, get help
My IQ just dropped a 100 points after watching this
So... -80 IQ?
I’m kidding lmao... sorry, I couldn’t help it.
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I get your drift. As much as your comment amuses, the video terrifies
Same
I'm sorry but you will not dictate to me what pronouns I should be using. Thank you for your concern though.
The way people are called these days is what's ruining America. It's dumb to get mad at someone for calling a man a man just because the person who called them a man had no idea they offended a person that was a man but didn't associate as a man. Let's just accept a person for who they are and drop all these stupid labels that are making each of us argue with each other for saying a word they had no idea the person didn't want to be called. Let's just call each other human.
Oh no! We can call people huMAN! That's sexist. They should be called homosapians (sp?) or bipeds instead. Or just Hue for short.
(Meant to be light of those who are being overly sensitive. Human is a perfectly fine term and I'll be annoyed WHEN this becomes a language battle.)
All these people saying that they won’t use pronouns because they don’t want to. What’s your minor inconvenience to a life time of dysphoria. You’d not exerting your right to freedoms of speech or making a statement, you’d just being an asshole and making people’s lives harder. You can say the wrong pronouns legally but that doesn’t mean you won’t be treated like the insensitive person you are. You also have the freedom of speech to be racist and sexist but that doesn’t mean racist and sexist people shouldn’t be told that there wrong and educated. It’s freedom of speech not freedom of consequence.
My pronouns are Joe/ mama
Whose Joe?
@@brendorkusaviation8930 jOe MaMa
more like YOUR MOM
Him, Her, They, I don't care who you are, Or just use first or last names, Those are much easier.
-Someone in the LGBTQIA+ community
It's really not that hard to change a few letters.
Transphobic.
I identify as a king. My pronouns are "your highness" or "your majesty"
Yes your highness😂😂
Why reference Neopronouns if not to attempt to explain their validity?
Anders ᛖᛚᛁᚨᛋᛖᚾ BAHAHAH
Cause she couldn’t even make up such nonsense lmfao
@@ReverbCanvas he*
@@cherrypopbaybe nope
@@ReverbCanvasYou did not. YOU DID NOT.
I identify as a non-binary, gender fluid, otherkin, pansexual, two-spirit palm tree and my pronouns are zip/zap.
NB 1294 zop
It's nice to meet you, and I accept your pronouns. Zip/zap are totally valid!
Like OMG. Like my pronouns are like I Don’t Give A Shit.
Oh cool! I've never seen anyone with this combo of identities before but I'm really interested in how they converge! How would you say your identities interact with each other? Do your otherkin and two-spirit identities conflict in any way? I'm curious!
Is this a joke?
Never encountered a ze or zir or or odd pronouns. I don't think it's something I would ever address someone as, very strange.
“Odd pronouns” I don’t use those pronouns, but to call them odd, well that’s extremely rude. Imagine if I called you by the wrong pronouns because I thought yours were “odd.” You would be really upset
@@jasper9434 not trying to be rude. Just odd pronouns like ze or zir are strange. An odd invention of the modern times is all. I personally think it's silly and childish. But some people take it more serious.
dualboy24 you are being rude, tho. They’re people’s pronouns. It doesn’t matter if you’re not trying to be rude. It still is. I don’t want to get really mad and start being rude so I’ll just stop here
@@dualboy24 You understand that language is always changing right??? There are obviously going to be new words and such, and they might seem stranget, too. All you have to do is respect other people's pronouns. It's basic human decency.
@@willoww6822 It's still very rare to have or hear about alternative pronouns. Not a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly encounter from what I observe. Perhaps in time it will become more common or accepted, with the younger generations getting older, as they seem to have a virtual monopoly on this issue, but it takes time, and for older generations (~maybe mine even 40+) to understand it more.
Right now I can say I know no one with an alternative pronoun, so it is most likely a tiny tiny fraction of a percent of people that use these.
And the only way we even hear about this topic is on the news/youtube, like this video.
I would probably just refer to the person by name to avoid having any issue about pronouns, especially if the person is sensitive about it (which would make me wary at that point lol :)
Now if I meet a strange who I don't know I will probably just refer to them by how my brain identifies them, which is normal, if they want to let me know their name and such I will adjust appropriately out of respect.
"If someone tells you their pronouns then that's what you use" Hmm... I think the First Amendment says otherwise.
yall english natives are adding new pronouns everyday and istg it makes it harder especially for non english natives 😐 idc if this transphobkc or enbyphobic it confuzzles me everytime and my brain cant remember anything about these pronouns
Don't waste your time learning those 'pronouns'. She/he/they is enough.
@@alexasweet8430 no it's not ♥️ I'm not a native English speaker and it's not easy for me to learn all these pronouns but if this is what the people i talk to want me to use to feel comfortable then I'm here to fucking learn
@@sawrajd3790 and what's wrong with that? would you not call someone by the nickname they asks you to use? i don't understand.
If I meet someone out in the open world, and they immediately say, “I go by the pronouns xe/xir” or something like that, not even a proper greeting, I’m just gonna walk away.
@@ant_racer i'm sure xey won't feel offended :)
And this is so-called progress… yeeshh
Yeah, just backwards.
Lmao
My thought exactly
This is just dumb
i dont give a fuck if someone calls me a she tbh
When you worry more about the shit to be called rather than worrying about your actual self...people are def gonna lose themselves. The world's half way dying and we worried about pronouns smh
terrible stuff is happening all the time, all around the world. that doesn't mean we always have to be running around panicking about it and spending all our time trying to fix it. people want to be called a certain way because they figured out who they are and they want other people to see them for that. we can't live our lives only focused on things that are "more important" because there will always be something "more important"
@@hannahfennell2348 If people misgendering you is the worst thing that can happen to you then you are privileged. There's absolutely no need to create an issue that is not even an issue in the first place. If people want to live in their delusions they are free to do so but don't get mad if others don't like/don't want to accommodate to your "preferred pronouns". If I see that you are clearly female I will refer to you as she/her not he/him.
So I'm an alternate gender, every other day I change from male to female. I need you all to know what days I change and use the correct language or I'm really offended..............lol nah just kidding I would never force language use on another as I am a normal human being.
Yeah that's not how nonbinary or genderfluid people work. They just be theirselves and really don't change their gender on a day-to-day basis. It's more like theyre gender expression varies, like one day they will wear a skirt and makeup but after a while (a day, a week, a month even) they'll wear more unisex/masculine clothing and ditch the makeup.
@@fundude6127 wearing a skirt/pants that doesn’t change their gender!!!
Lisa w exactly
@@fundude6127 What you are describing are INTERESTS, not gender.
King Ghidorah clothes can be an interest but most of the time it’s just apart of your routine.
I'm all for respecting people's choices of pronouns, the only thing that bugs me about they/them/their, specifically, as pronouns is when they're used in place of "he/she" (for example), because then you end up with incorrect grammar like "they is" which just sounds all kinds of wrong, grammatically speaking. If they want to use they/them/their, that's fine! I'd just really appreciate sticking with proper grammar, that's all. "They are" *can still* refer to one individual, after all; there's no reason to rewrite grammar rules when the desired case is already covered! Unfortunately this specific point is never mentioned in *many* explanations across the Internet such as that in this video.
Again, I'm happy to use any pronouns people choose for themselves, it's just when it violates grammar that I feel like I have to just "grin and bare it", and put up with it. This is as opposed to accepting happily, wholeheartedly and unconditionally, which I otherwise have done.
They as a singular has been used for centuries in the human language. I can’t believe people still act like they haven’t said this pronoun to describe a person of unknown gender.
Hi, I use he/they, and just wanted to quickly say that most people that use they/them pronouns use it like "they are" instead of changing it to "they is", so it's not as confusing! :)
@@soran_skies where is she going? Where is they going? Is she gonna be late? Is they gonna be late?
@@ImRanchWilder I'm not sure what you're trying to communicate? If you're showing that it's possible to use they/them in that way, then don't worry about it because I already knew, and said nothing against it. If you're trying to say it doesn't make sense, then I don't wish to continue this conversation due to your ignorance.
@@soran_skies I was wondering if thats how it's converted. Ive never heard anyone say they them in conversation.
The main language spoken in the Philippines (Tagalog) does not have a separate pronoun for 'he' or 'she'. 'Siya' is a gender-neutral pronoun used to refer to both males and females.
That’s so great. Also funny since we use it to say goodbye. Cya! 😂❤
Dont porget ma'amsir
Omg how do trans people survive without something to complain about?
I will NEVER ask somebody their pronouns or say I go by certain pronouns. I respect whatever you want to be called, but don't police or expect me to walk some fine line so you feel better.
@@kioko8968 no it isn't at this point there are like 500+ pronouns that each person makes up, how can each person expect us to remember what to call them? No one is special
@@kioko8968 tahts what i meant I'm ok with they/them but none of those weird ass stuff like "xir" or anything like that. Also, that's not even what an incel means LOL, throwing random insults isn't going to help your argument in any way. Im saying if everyone had pronouns for themselves, they cant expect others to memorize it just for them, chill
Since there are already a couple dozen pronouns, theres bound to be more that pop up. Aren’t pronouns mostly used so you don’t have to refer to someone by their name and it’s easier to have a couple pronouns than just going by names all the time. If there’s that many pronouns and you have to remember them as you remember someone’s name (almost unique to one or two people in an averages person’s circle) then wouldn’t pronouns be redundant? If theres as many pronouns as names itself, why would you need to use them in everyday speech?
Don’t mean to sound rude, i honestly don’t understand.
People are just making it into such a big deal and acting like it’s a big part of their identity
The human mind recognises 3 things when first meeting another person.
Gender, race, and age.
It does not recognise 2,000 genders because there are two. So society will not and has not made up genders just to feel special because it's useless.
I’m a trans guy and this is one of the issues I have with neopronouns. And whenever I bring it up I get labeled a transphobe.
We need to enforce Darwinism.
It enforces itself, just look at the morons eating tidepods
Im starting to lose faith in humanity.
And so have I looking at your comment.
Humanity is officially destroyed.
Metoo with comments like yours😉
@@professorrosenstock5026 edgy.
I'm in the minority that think that neopronouns are a bad idea, but are still gonna respect the people who use those words to describe themselves.
exact same here
I’ll just use the real ones.
Im not gonna call anyone ze no matter how much they want me to
trust me, the real minority are the delusional minds trying to push this narrative of "neo-pronouns" being valid, don't worry comrade
I remember trying to fool other kids by claiming to speak another language and actually making up one when I was young, I sounded exactly like hir thir xin zir or whatever
And that is why most people don't feel comfortable around non binary/non conforming/wierd ass folks, you make it too hard and wierd trying to communicate with you. That most would rather not speak to you at all.
I think they/them are okay, but not the other ones
@@Ultimategaminghq1 not really im going to call a group of men them/they im going to so those guys over their not them over there.
Exactly. I was just thinking thank goodness I don't have any trans friends. They are way too touchy for me.
not most people. just people like you. i'm non-binary (or maybe i'm a mtf trans woman idk) and i've only had a few problems with it
@@sonicleaves transphobic to me chief
This comment section did not pass the vibe check. Transphobia? In 2020? Respect people’s pronouns it’s simple and you would want that for yourself. In other words, cisgender (afab) women would you like it if someone continued to use he/him pronouns instead of your preferred she/her pronouns? Same with cisgender (amab) men would you like if someone used she/her pronouns to refer to you? Of course not. Use people’s preferred pronouns it’s like using someone’s name. It’s simple.
We don't hate trans people. We're just tired of people making up new pronouns.
@@nopentireiii2147 Well I mean they aren't. Neo pronouns have been around for centuries, and they/them has been used even before the birth of she/her and he/him pronouns. It's not tiring if you do your part and educate yourself. That's why they make these videos. Here I'll help you: He went to the grocery store. -Ze went to the grocery store. She looked at herself in the mirror. -Ze looked at zirself in the mirror. The only thing stopping you from understanding neo pronouns and they/them pronouns is to educate yourself. Ignorance is a choice. Here is a example of a time where you (Yes you!) would have to use they/them pronouns. I found their lost dog! I'll have to contact them. ~ In this scenario you don't know the gender identity of the person so, you simply use they/them pronouns. It's easier then saying he or she that's why me and you and everyone who speaks english, uses these sets of pronouns subconsciously. It's seriously not that hard. Like I said, your just a google search away from the claws of ignorance.
Not wanting to learn a whole new dictionary of words just to address some person is transphobic? Get your shit together and start being a functional member of society.
@@ellachristian966 jesus christ please seek help
@@KaiserBob99 what about yourself? Nobody can explain what things like ze/zir are.
Just waffle and attention seeking at the moment.
People in the comments need to stop hating on the new pronouns. I have a legit question tho: Why do some people choose xe/xir/xem over they/them?
Just feels right to those people :))
@@shroomxox Fair. But I've never heard those words before so how/where did they find them and be like 'Oh yeah, that's me'?
@Kasane Teto Why did you choose 'xe' as a pronoun, specifically? What drew you to it more than the other pronouns?
Neopronouns refer to gender in the third person. Just found this out today because I researched it. Any gender can use neopronouns
@@surrealistic.cereal I get it but so far I've been hearing what they are but not why and how people came to the decision to choose them for themselves.
If they were to refer to me with a different pronoun I wouldn't care cuz it's not a major part of who I am at the end of the day they are just words
Not to mention it's not even an issue at all, they do not understand that you can never get out of the "male/female" spectrum, all this "nonbinary" stuff is just variations of it, or as we used to call "PERSONALITY", these are just people that are so privileged that pronouns is the worst thing in their lives lmao. This doesn't even have to do with Trans people either, it's just a narcissistic agenda by again, primarily WHITES.
@@DarknessIsThePath Yeah, tomboys for example are just girls with a manlier personality.
@Rayen Makovere
actually to a lot of people these
pronouns aren't just words, it can make people feel really uncomfortable to be called by certain pronouns and just because you're fine with it doesn't mean other people are!
Pronouns are so stupid. I actually don’t care, I will only say they, them, their and nothing else. But I think THEY need a gender lesson. Listen up. If the person has banana, than it’s a boy, no banana, means girl. Simple
@@jamesleodelacruz Idc what ppl call me. I am a girl and I use she/her ofc, But really I don't have time to fight over pronouns with ppl. So i let them call me whatever tbh
This is one of the inconsistencies of liberals. They often shout about "MY BODY IS MY AUTHORITY", but not really consistent with that principle.
If "MY BODY IS MY AUTHORITY" doesn't mean "MY MOUTH IS MY AUTHORITY"? what right do people have to control my mouth? Asking (even forcing) me to say / not say certain things. This is my mouth, it's up to me to use what my mouth is for. "MY BODY IS MY AUTHORITY" right?
the phrase "my body my choice" refers specifically to the legality of abortion. No one is saying using the wrong pronouns should be against the law. No one is "forcing" you to use preferred pronouns. If you want to be a dick, go ahead and be a dick. But you can't expect people to like you if you choose to be a dick. Honestly, if they did try to legally punish people who intentionally misgender others, most of the country, including trans people, would be against it. I know i would.
@@kushsharma972 There is also no hope that I want to be liked by other people. The point is, please don't like me, but don't mess with me. As long as you don't experience any material and physical harm, then leave me with my life.
That is precisely the inconsistency lies. Why only in the case of abortion and not in other cases? In Canada, constitutionally established rules regarding the language of gender. Until jordan peterson is against it.
Killed/myself
Damm. That's dark. I shouldn't have laughed
Our society is confused as hell
Answer me this. If pronouns don't reflect gender, then why would a woman change their pronouns from she/her to he/him if there's no meaning in it? Like come on that's just taking it too far
So, if I am in the room and someone is talking to me, I prefer you, you, your, yours. What they call me when they called when not addressing me, is actually their business. As my grandmother used to say, call me anything you like except late for dinner.
“How to confuse yourself without telling me you are confusing yourself.”
He/him, she/her. That's it. Thats all we need.
"we" is the boomers who live in the past lmao get used to 2020 lexie
Nope. We need he/him, she/her and they/them. Just because you don’t think other genders exist doesn’t mean their not there. You can choose to stay ignorant or educate yourself on lgbtq+
Nah lol, I base it off *science.* Y'know, that thing you guys seem to completely ignore?
Lexie Tibbs wtf. Literally lgbtq+ does have science to back it up. A lot actually, have you done any research at all. Now we can pretend their isn’t any science for a second but it wouldn’t matter because human rights come first. Why shouldn’t people be able to love who they want without getting harassed, murdered, beat, and bullied. Why is it so hard for you to let people live their lives and be happy. Please name one person or thing that they are hurting by living their lives. Also please stop ignoring the fact that intersex and multiple other types of sex’s exist. It’s not just male and female. Gender is a social construct not science.
Lexie Tibbs here’s a tictok that may explain it vm.tiktok.com/ZMJSvy5Rv/
Nah. I'm not going to bother remembering any of this.
Why should you have to? Gender is biological, and its importance in speech primarily a social contruct. If someone who is biologically female is therefore always called "she", so what! If a female then feel they have attributes that do not align with many/most other females so what! Calling them "he" instead of "she" is going to "fix" or achieve what exactly? The issue is entirely in people's minds and ultimately their assumptions and choice to be offended.
All these pronouns are little more than the ever growing lengths (a minority of) people are going to, to be privileged and in truth just outraged over nothing of any true importance.
IMHO
@@NFawc in your example not calling them he and calling them she on purpose can be so demoralizing to a trans person that if you do it enough they may kill themselves and that blood is on no one's hands but your's if you purposefully misgender a trans person you may make them very depressed that's why you shouldn't misgender people and correct yourself when you're wrong
@@truetransoul586 Understood, BUT, if we're going to be governed by people unable to deal with "hurty feelings", where will that take us? Maybe people need to learn to better deal with issues (eg:gender dysphoria) rather than expecting the world to revolve around them? I have no issue calling someone by any name they wish to go by. But lying about scientific facts for hurty feelings? No... Dangerous and counter productive.
@@NFawc There are scientific studies that prove that being transgender is more than 'I'm a boy and like pink & barbies'. According to those studies it has to do with how the brains of transgendered people are structured. It is disrespectful to call someone by the wrong pronounces but if you genuinely don't know them and just assume them because of how someone looks it shouldn't be a problem (in my opinion) as long as when someone tells you their pronounces you try to use them. It's understandable if you refuse to use ze/zir and stuff like that because those are foreign words but when it comes to he/him, she/her & they/them you should at least try to use the right ones.
@@cheryltomaatje9326 And those same scientists will confirm every human is genetically male or female. Take whatever drugs you like. Chop off whatever you like. Go by any name or description you like. Your DNA does not lie...
I have no issue calling someone by what ever name they wish. But lying about what their DNA states as a fact about their gender achieves what?
So because you are confused about who you are we need too change or whole language
Idk dude, you are reallllly confusing me with the lack of a comma, and the "or".... Are you like. Speaking a new language or something, I'm too lazy to try and decipher that malarkey
I feel like people are forgetting we use pronouns because we don't remember or don't want to learn your f**king name. It defeats the purpose if we have to remember a stranger's or enemy's pronouns...
I identify as Luis fonsi and my pronouns are des/pacito