Hope my research and ideas help you out and offer some new insights! What were your thoughts and ideas around Babylon? I would love to discuss! Let me know below!
Loved Sydney Palmer's character the most. His decision must have been so hard because Manny guilt tripped him by saying "Other people's families will starve because you won't put on make up". Him going through it once and never going back was such a profoundly grown up thing to do.
And I think that that was the beginning of the end for Manny. He knew that putting on that blackface would be humiliating for Sydney, but he manipulated Sydney anyway. At that point, Manny was no different than the other Hollywood sleazebags who put their own livelihoods and careers above all else.
Takes a lot of guts to walk away from Hollywood, but I'd like to think that he remained as a successful musician, just didn't want to do movies anymore.
But I don’t get why that was such a big deal. Like Manny said people use makeup all the time in movies and the reason for it was legitimate. It’s not like he was being asked to do a gay scene.
I think his ending is that he dissolved back into society and that he becomes an organ of a larger community. Manny is saved by cleaving himself from fame, Nelly is (though not just this) swallowed by it and Sydney chooses to leave it behind. I think that one of the largest themes of the movie is the inability to evolve in sync with time and culture will result in you being left behind by it (possibly referencing the theory of the red queen in evolution).
Great breakdown! Damien Chazelle said in an interview, “Babylon is a love letter to cinema, but a hate letter to Hollywood.” To me, this is Chazelle grappling with his own fame and power in Hollywood. La La Land was written before he made Whiplash and became a famous filmmaker. It’s about the outsiders romanticism of the industry. Babylon was written after he won an Oscar, got remarried and had a child. Manny comes back with his wife and child years later only to fall in love with cinema all over again. I also think it’s no coincidence that Nellie is from New Jersey and rose to fame quickly. Damien Chazelle is from New Jersey and rose to fame quickly as well.
Thank you, so glad you liked it! And yeah, that quote makes perfect sense. It’s very honest about the qualities and drawbacks of the industry. And it’s so great to hear your insights on how the film’s little details relate to Chazelle’s personal life, i had no idea so that’s super cool to hear. All of his films seem to address the good and the bad which keeps things interesting, he’s a fantastic director. Thanks so much for watching and chiming in!
Exactly!! Im also a filmmaker and the ending was a life changin moment for me. I had goosebumps all over my body and i couldn't believe what i was watching. Everyone who makes art should watch this movie. The ending was amazing. It was so meta symbolic. Damien Chazelle celebrated and come in terms with his own life at the and as the filmmaker. It is a love letter to cinema. And how we should move on in life, but our legacies will live forever on the big screen!!! That's why he finally smiles!
Epic movie I was riveted from beginning to the end, and dynamic range of characters to explore the story. But most important why movies are so magical from a young age to an old person.
Just watched this movie last night, spot on analysis but I wanted to point out the ending in the movie theatre with Manny. Not only is he witnessing how far cinema has come, but he remembered his part in it and how he wanted to be part of something bigger. The detail that the movie he watches is Singing in the Rain which must have been a punch to his gut given the parallels of his own transition to talkies, and the struggles of the silent actress to sound being a running gag, this scene has a lot more depth than most movies in the last few decades. It really is a love letter to cinema and hate mail to Hollywood.
I thought it was because the lady in the movie he was watching was kinda dumb in a cute way just like Nellie and it was successfull in the theater and she was forced to do serious acting which maked her fail
A great piece of symbolism towards the end of the film: When Tobey Maguire's character is pitching Manny on his movie ideas, his last pitch is basing an entire film around "someone". He insists Manny and the Count need to see for themselves and eventually takes them to an underground LA party with several different floors (the circles of hell). The final floor showcases a crowd hysterically cheering on a masked, muscled man to whom Tobey Maguire was referring to. Purposely depicted as a low IQ circus freak, the masked "hero" opens a basket containing live mice and proceeds to gruesomely eat one on stage. The crowd erupts in applause... I interpreted that scene as Chazelle's deliberate commentary on the Marvel/superhero studio cash grabs that have become the unfortunate reality of today's films. So perverse to cinema that they belong in the depths of hell. The mouse being eaten represents the desecration of Disney's iconic historic imagery, Mickey Mouse. (Disney purchased Marvel back in 2009)
Haha this is the most wicked theory I've ever read. I love marvel and disney for the most part, but I also love your theory so much. I will be sharing this with my friends, seriously thank you!!
Jack Conrad goes through something similar although a bit more brutal than Leo's Rick Dalton in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. You can't help but feel sad for Jack because even though he cares about his image he is not overly full of himself or self-centered. He gives credit to George. He really loves making movies...he tells Manny making movies is the most magical thing. You know right then he loves what he does and those involved with it. Brad Pitt did amazing acting with his eyes as he becomes more saddened throughout the second half. Really felt like I was experiencing his sadness when he snuck into the movie and until the end.
Yea the fact that I knew he was gonna commit suicide the second Georgie died seeing as he almost died in Once upon a time Hollywood and he didn’t , I knew for sure he was gonna die this time. Especially that scene with the movie critic where she confirms his fears but reassures him he’ll live on forever
I know a lot of people have called this film "scathing." I think if you've worked in the industry at all, it's hardly scathing, just accurate. But the final scene, to me, is a celebration of cinema as an ecosystem. It's not asking "was all this worth it???"; it's acknowledging that this massive, multifaceted living thing has darkness, has light, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows -- but it all exists as one. And despite what it takes from us, we live for what it gives to us. Loved your take on the film, thank you!
I agree entirely with @Puertorican King. Your comment beautifully describes my feelings as well and would be a wonderful addition to the video. Thank you!! So glad you enjoyed!
As soon as I left the theater I was looking for a vid like this. Great breakdown, amazing film. I really hope this wins awards. This film truly had every genre into one massive thrill ride.
I totally agree, I love this film so much too because it has so many different things I love about movies all in one movie, and I wasn't ever bored. So glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching!!
I think that one of the overarching themes of the film is the need to be loved at all costs. Much has been said about the kind of people who go into show business. Oftentimes, people enter the business already broken in some way, hoping that success and fame will heal them. It's clear when we first meet Nellie that she's damaged. But she has a gift--perhaps because of that damage--and it gives her a career. Sadly, she is so emotionally scarred that she is never able to find peace, to tame the demons that haunt her. Jack's issue is that he doesn't know who he is without success and adoration. He cannot exist without those things. He doesn't have the tools. Sydney, on the other hand, craves success because he wants to be better and do better than his contemporaries. He is the only character in the film who deserves his success, but he finds that the sacrifices he has to make are too great. Luckily, he has enough self-esteem and courage to save himself, as he is the least scarred of the main characters. I think that Sydney represents those who enter the business with good hearts and intentions, willing to do the work, but get chewed up anyway.
The first act had me questioning if this film would be good, but the rest of the film, specifically from the scene where Nellie takes 8 takes to do the scene, and onwards was perfect. Babylon deserved wayyy more praise than it got!!!
literally went in blind to this movie, didnt see any trailer or anything. man wtf i was so blind sided and loved it. i was surprised how late it was when i left, i didnt notice it was 3 hours. i felt maybe it was hard to piece together the themes tho so i went online and saw so many critics and other people complaining about it. jeez its crazy. anyway thanks for helping me see some of the through lines in the movie. good luck with more videos!
Yeah it seems to have really polarized the audience (critics and general audiences) but I'm glad there are people around who love it as much as you and me, and I hope the filmmaking team recognizes this side of the film's reception. I'm glad the video offered new insight, and thank you for watching! Plenty more to come!
Same, I came across it on Amazon prime. Watched it, was like woah… now I’m looking up reviews and critics of people feeling the same way/reaction. And also interviews from the director/production set etc Watched it 3 times lol
I watched this on Christmas 2 days ago, I’m 15, definitely was not expecting such an intense movie. I felt very uncomfortable throughout various moments including the grotesque and rather gruesome points but ultimately that was just an accurate representation of how absolutely chaotic and almost uncivilized the roaring 20s were. Manuel’s character was the one that I rooted for the entire film, I think he represents us, the viewers as he is an outsider of the industry until he almost gets consumed into it. Great video!
Dude your video was amazing. You kept it short and straight to the point. You broke it down better so i could understand each character on a deeper level more. The one thing I will say, I feel Mannie at the end is reliving the whole movie that we just watched in his head and how he said he wanted to make an impact in the film industry with Nelly, and he really did. And that’s why he smiles at the very end watching the cinema. Such a beautiful movie!!
This movie reminds me of The Weeknd’s ‘After Hours’ album and its themes about Hollywood and what it’s really about underneath the ‘Blinding Lights’ and wanting to ‘Escape From LA’ and that life style with Nellie LaRoy being the ‘Snowchild’, Jack Conrad losing his ‘Faith’ and Manny becoming ‘Heartless’ (those puns are intended). If you haven’t heard the album I’d recommend it especially if you’re XO fan and to watch the music videos in timeline order
Right up there with the best movie critiques and synopses I've read. Thank you! You've genuinely made me excited to watch it, despite the many negative reviews it has received.
Haha thank you so much, it's totally my pleasure! And yes, I got up pretty early to plan and edit the video, couldn't wait to share and hear all the ideas. Thank you so much for watching!!
This has been one of my most anticipated movies of this year for months. I've just come out of the theater and I can confidently say it's my favorite out of this year and that's saying a lot, considering all the top tier movies we've had since January. I'm also really glad you're one of the earliest people to review this. Not only do you have a very calming voice that's easy to listen to in your videos, but you also make plenty of valid points that I sometimes overlook. For instance, I'd originally seen Manny's ending as more on the tragic side (despite being alive with a newfound family), I first felt that Nelly basically ruined his life by constantly dragging him into her mess. After your review, I have a pretty different outlook on the final scene, especially after you mentioned her indirectly saving him from losing himself, and him crying at the end almost seems like tears of relief in retrospect. Thank you for putting this video out so early!
Omg thank you so much, I’m so glad you loved this film so much because I loved it too and wondered if I was alone haha it’s one of my favourites of the year as well. And I’m super thrilled my insights could offer a new perspective, that’s what’s so great about it. The 3 hour length is justified for me because there’s so much to think about and it’s of course entertaining throughout. So happy you enjoyed the video, thank you so much for catching this video and seeing the movie!
@@lucasblue20 Most definitely! I had the same feeling I'd felt upon viewing Avatar recently. I didn't exactly feel the length of runtime for either of those movies because I was so captivated and enjoyed getting lost in these worlds so much that I was never in a hurry to leave. It's been thrilling to have two 3 hour movies come out in December that not only made me think of what Cameron and Chazelle were trying to tell us both in front of and behind the camera (while being able to form our own takes on each subject matter), but also being able to view both films in ways that didn't necessarily feel like science, history or geography lessons, rather educational high school field trips that happened to take place at Universal Studios... at least that was the perspective in which I'd personally viewed both these modern day classics.
Wow wow wow. Love this review. You said what all the other critics can’t seem to grasp AND what people like me, who defend the film, can’t say as eloquently as you did. Thanks!
The kindest review on this film I've seen so far. I've just finished watching and still digesting this film. It's definitely not close to Damien's previous works, but I do love the tainted and excessive view on the industry that spoiled everyone involved.
It's an absolute masterpiece, a classic to be! People find it choatic, well that's fully on purpose, that time period is called the roaring twenties for a good reason! Your analysis is spot on.
One of the things that I thought made Manny’s character really interesting is that he never really does anything on his own, even when he’s a studio exec. When he’s pushing the elephant up the mountain, it’s because the party hosts wanted it. When he shoots at the extras, it’s because Jack Conrad wanted it. When he told Sidney to put on black face, it’s because the editors and ceos wanted it. The only thing I think he ever did more because he wanted it than anything else was asking Nellie to marry him, and in the end, it was far too late. Even in his struggle to keep Nellie in the spotlight, he’s struggling between doing things for Nellie and doing things for the Execs. Sometimes one side wins, sometimes another, but I think in the end he chose to listen to the execs too much, and that’s what ultimately led to his downfall.
Compliments Lucas. Enjoyed your presentation on the symbolism, mythical and archetypal breakdown of the themes of Babylon. Your research is evident. I think this type of art in cinema exploration could easily be the basis for a college level course. Well done.
Thank you!! And yes, I could see this being one of those films that ages into a classic or cult classic at least. Time will tell I guess, but I loved it!
Yea and yes!! You completely described it all so perfectly! Wow! Bravo. I was very sad to see them kill Jack Conrad instead of him just fading into obscurity. So Tragic but unfortunately happens far too often. I guess it wasn’t meant to have a happy ending with Nellie or Conrad.
I think you flipped it. To me it wasn't about people selling off their humanity but rather about the kinds of people that thrive and flame out in that environment. Eg the 'moths that are drawn to that flame.' Nellie starts out disfunctional -- she doesn't lose her humanity; she is already fragmented. She thrives because she craves the facade of stardom. She is escaping her shitty life by rolling in the indulgences of Hollywood. She can make one tear drop on cue because she is disconnected from her real feelings and who she really is. Hollywood isn't paying her to lose her humanity; it is paying her because she is broken in a way that is useful to it. Manny thrives because he can get stuff done. When everyone else is too broken, drugged up, drunk or self-absorbed to be useful Manny is there to save the day. He is like Hollywood's designated driver. Mostly the film is a mess because it is trying so hard to be outrageous that it doesn't care about earning moments of emotional truth. The film seems to give you a choice of characters to connect with and hopes that at least one of them will work for you.
This video is great man. Keep up the good work. My advice: try to get your background to look more professional and objective to get a broader amount of viewers
This video was exactly what I was looking for 🔥. I’ve seen the movie getting some hate and I actually liked this movie a lot to the point where I would actually rewatch it which isn’t common for me.
So glad you clicked with the film, I love it too! And yeah, it’s very much one you can rewatch for how fun it is and how layered it is. Thank you for watching!!
Glad to find a video actually discussing the themes etc of the movie, I just watched it last night and really enjoyed it then I come online and can only find massive criticisms.
I thought the scene where pitt realizes his career isnt going anywhere was the best. One of the only scenes that didnt feel dragged out, pointless or rushed
Lucas, Fabulous analysis of the movie Babylon. I like period pieces like this. I havent even seen it yet. But it's long so I will see it on netflix or video. Thanks for the upload.
Thank you! Yeah you might really like this movie, I’m noticing some people are loving it and others are hating it, so it’s nevertheless an interesting watch, hope you enjoy it!!
Love your analysis! The tittle of the film might also reference Keneth Angers book, Hollywood Babylon where he explored a lot of gossip and scandals of the pre code Hollywood. I just find this movie and themes so fascinating and tragic.
Hey man, great breakdown, I didnt realise the amount of the stuff I missed until your breakdown, just discovered your channel, your quality is top notch but I hope you work on your thumbnails, cant wait to see you get the recognition you deserve!!!
Thank you so much my friend, I'm so glad I could offer some new angles on it! I hope you enjoy the rest of the channel, and I'll most certainly take your advice into account. Thank you again, this all really means a lot!!
Great analysis! I've seen this movie 3 times already (it was released in January in my country) and I love every piece of it. Every time I watch it I notice something new, might go 4th time 🍿
I loved this movie. I think it also critiqued the excessive lifestyles of the roaring 20s while showing its awesome glory. The girl dying at the party and simply being replaced by nellie or the owners being the only ones not having fun bc they sold their souls. Then theres the whole toby maguire fucked up shit. Really shows the dangers that come with this level of power and freedom.
This movie captivated me and repulsed me at the same time. I found myself falling in love with the beauty while being incredibly uncomfortable with some of the themes and gore. It was a wild experience and I’m guessing exactly what Chazelle was going for. Thank you for your analysis. It firmed up some things I felt during the movie and wove it all together beautifully. Makes me appreciate the movie even more. Sadly, I wonder if many viewers will get past the rather rank facade to see the deeper meaning of this film.🤔 Ps is it weird that I like Margot more as Nellie than Barbie? This role was made for her. ❤
Yes, it really was made for her. She was not originally cast for the role. Emma Stone was but because of the delay from the pandemic, by the time they filmed it, Emma had a conflict and had to give the role up, which is when they got Robie to do it. I can see Emma doing a great job as well but Margot killed it.
I just finished the movie and it was very enjoyable like you said it was so very chaotic and even though the movie was over 3 hours it went very quickly. The theme of every character stripping themselves of they're humanity to succeed in Hollywood was very engaging for me and they all hit so differently. The movie reminded me of boogie nights. The one scene with manny goes the drug lord house with the enforcer constantly spitting really reminded me of the boogie nights scene when they try and Rob the drug dealer and the little kid is lighting fireworks in the house where the tension just kept building and building and then everything thing comes to a crazy climax. It felt like they were descending into hell from the freak show orgy to the dude eating the rats i thought it was fucking wild i really like that it felt very unexpected. Overall I really was invested in the characters and enjoyed the movie but for me the one standout was Margot Robbie she was amazing her acting abilities have gotten so good. After watching Babylon i thought man she has to be nominated for academy award and I was really surprised she didn't get a nomination cuz I thought she had one of the better performances of any the movie I seen this year from a leading female. Maybe not to win it but not to even get nominated That's so messed up. I wonder if the academy took this movie and insult cuz I could see it being taken that way even though stylistically and acting was it was great. I thought you had a great insight about the movie I really appreciate the breakdown
I saw the trailers to this and yeah it is pretty batshit insane can’t thank you enough for this video on this movie. Your analysis is very deep and insightful as always merry Christmas 🎄🎁 and happy New Year 🎆🎊.
Thank you for this wonderfully detailed analysis. I wonder if this will be similar to "Reds" .. that passed with little fanfare in early 1980's, and will gain more viewers in the future.
Hello sir, I started following your channel ever since the la la land explanation and I'm really huge fan of your content. I had a small request could you please review Kantara. It's available on Netflix and Amazon prime.
Wow since La La Land, that was quite a while ago haha but that’s so cool that you stuck around, thank you! And I’ve never heard of this film, but I’ve just added it to my watchlist and potential video list. Thank you again!!
This was a beautifully shot movie with an a list cast with something to say. Unfortunately, it had two things going against it. One, people generally do not like inside Hollywood movies. There are some exceptions, but it is not a subject matter that many regular people care for. Two, the American 1920's in not an interesting decade. After WWI but before the depression, it is mostly known for Babe Ruth and Great Gatsby parties. It does not even have the class divide thing that British and Europe has to exploit for stories like "Downton Abbey". It was new rich trashy people living it up. It might be the least interesting decade of the whole 20th century.
I loved it.... I love how it asked questions of us about our own lives and position in the world...... the way our own rose tinted view of our experiences end up being confronted with scary change... but that scary change is the rose tinted view of the next generation. Just like the amazing Elinor St John says to Jack Conrad, you won't be the first - the cycle will continue for goodness knows how long. I also loved the reflection on cinema creating a few immortal beings to be icons for as long as we remember them (Jack), on how it destroys countless more lives with broken dreams (Nellie), but also gives a blessed few the realisation that they value their talent and can find their own path (Sidney). But importantly, I feel like it leaves a final question of 'where is cinema going next?' Ultimately, it's a love letter to cinema.... but with warts and all.
One thing that seems self-evident to me is that Babylon's opening sequence - basically, the big orgy - is suggestively mirrored in the film's final sequence, a veritable orgy of historical cinematic images, ultimately broken down into their most basic constituent elements: dye, image, celluloid, etc. (Oddly, much of the final sequence, with the blurry multi-colored dyes unfolding like abstracted flower petals in an underwater ballet, is suggestively comparable to the psychedelic space trip sequence toward the end of 2001.) I think Lucas lays out the case rather well that the film's principal characters, having achieved fame and power in the industry in various capacities, live rather emotionally bereft, threadbare lives - that in spite of fame and power, they live their passions vicariously through the industry and the image created of them , and that once their fame and power - and most importantly, their PR constructed image - fade, they themselves no longer have a reason to exist. They no longer have any image of themselves, and in fact, really never did. But most important, I think, is the film's warning to audiences: yes, cinema is an extraordinary gift, but today we ourselves live in an unending orgy of images, displacing our passions and living vicariously through a steady stream of projections in the form of movies, TV, advertising, etc.They are nothing but constructions, amusements, deceptions - ink, paper, celluloid, digital bytes. You are the real thing. See yourself.
@@FwJT_ It is ill conceived, it looks terrible, and is constantly noisy and boring. It's a mess in every way, while being curiously prudish despite all the debauchery on display.
The saddest movie of the year, it reminds us we are nothing but cockroaches. To be replaced by younger and stronger, and when our looks fade….all we will have is our memories.
I think there's more to the end. The scene goes like "music, lights, and camera" (with the 3/2/1) pointing out that the real actors of tomorrow's cinema are sitting in the theater. That's my opinion though!
Honestly before this movie I didn’t know it took that much work to make a movie. The scene where they take so many takes because the sound and people keep interrupting them. Who would have thought there are so many ups and downs when making art.
You’ve earned a sub from me man. Just watched it last night and I really enjoyed it and I enjoyed your breakdown on the movie. I see Hollywood as the main character while the stars in this movie are the ones being controlled. I loved how it showed how evil in nature Hollywood can be. It being a love letter to cinema while also showing the hatred of cinema.
Yeah it seems like Chazelle really enjoys highlighting the qualities and drawbacks of the things he loves. And yeah, he makes the subject matter it’s own character that persuades and manipulates the human characters. I totally agree, thank you so much for watching and subscribing! Plenty more on the way!!
You can't be in Hollywood if you don't give up every bit of yourself it's not going to happen they don't care about your talent there's a lot of talented people out here what they're looking for are Muses.
This movie Deserved to get nominated for Best Oscar instead of Top Gun Maverick and Avatar 2 how much money 💰 a movie makes should have nothing to do with it's maret or weather it gets a nom or not I loved this movie 😍👍
Hope my research and ideas help you out and offer some new insights! What were your thoughts and ideas around Babylon? I would love to discuss! Let me know below!
Loved Sydney Palmer's character the most. His decision must have been so hard because Manny guilt tripped him by saying "Other people's families will starve because you won't put on make up". Him going through it once and never going back was such a profoundly grown up thing to do.
And I think that that was the beginning of the end for Manny. He knew that putting on that blackface would be humiliating for Sydney, but he manipulated Sydney anyway. At that point, Manny was no different than the other Hollywood sleazebags who put their own livelihoods and careers above all else.
Takes a lot of guts to walk away from Hollywood, but I'd like to think that he remained as a successful musician, just didn't want to do movies anymore.
But I don’t get why that was such a big deal. Like Manny said people use makeup all the time in movies and the reason for it was legitimate. It’s not like he was being asked to do a gay scene.
I think his ending is that he dissolved back into society and that he becomes an organ of a larger community. Manny is saved by cleaving himself from fame, Nelly is (though not just this) swallowed by it and Sydney chooses to leave it behind. I think that one of the largest themes of the movie is the inability to evolve in sync with time and culture will result in you being left behind by it (possibly referencing the theory of the red queen in evolution).
@@davidukeme9218manny only said that to make him feel better about it. The audience wanted blackface.
Great breakdown!
Damien Chazelle said in an interview, “Babylon is a love letter to cinema, but a hate letter to Hollywood.”
To me, this is Chazelle grappling with his own fame and power in Hollywood. La La Land was written before he made Whiplash and became a famous filmmaker. It’s about the outsiders romanticism of the industry. Babylon was written after he won an Oscar, got remarried and had a child. Manny comes back with his wife and child years later only to fall in love with cinema all over again. I also think it’s no coincidence that Nellie is from New Jersey and rose to fame quickly. Damien Chazelle is from New Jersey and rose to fame quickly as well.
Thank you, so glad you liked it! And yeah, that quote makes perfect sense. It’s very honest about the qualities and drawbacks of the industry. And it’s so great to hear your insights on how the film’s little details relate to Chazelle’s personal life, i had no idea so that’s super cool to hear. All of his films seem to address the good and the bad which keeps things interesting, he’s a fantastic director. Thanks so much for watching and chiming in!
Diego HAS to win the Oscar! He was so raw and perfect in this film. Especially being a newcomer. He was great !
He was amazing
My favorite part is Nellie’s scene that took eight takes to get it right 🎬
Yeahhhh such a good scene! I was locked in and laughing at the same time the whole time, so well done.
Yeah that sound guy nearly lost his mind lol
And the guy they all forgot in the "sauna" room
Literally me filming my RUclips videos 😅
THAT PART HAD ME CRYING IN THE THEATER 😂LMAOOOO
that ending really hit me hard. Harder than I expected, but in a great way. Makes me remember why I make films in the first place.
Mentor me?
how did it end?
Exactly!! Im also a filmmaker and the ending was a life changin moment for me. I had goosebumps all over my body and i couldn't believe what i was watching.
Everyone who makes art should watch this movie. The ending was amazing. It was so meta symbolic. Damien Chazelle celebrated and come in terms with his own life at the and as the filmmaker. It is a love letter to cinema. And how we should move on in life, but our legacies will live forever on the big screen!!! That's why he finally smiles!
Epic movie I was riveted from beginning to the end, and dynamic range of characters to explore the story. But most important why movies are so magical from a young age to an old person.
Just watched this movie last night, spot on analysis but I wanted to point out the ending in the movie theatre with Manny. Not only is he witnessing how far cinema has come, but he remembered his part in it and how he wanted to be part of something bigger. The detail that the movie he watches is Singing in the Rain which must have been a punch to his gut given the parallels of his own transition to talkies, and the struggles of the silent actress to sound being a running gag, this scene has a lot more depth than most movies in the last few decades. It really is a love letter to cinema and hate mail to Hollywood.
I thought it was because the lady in the movie he was watching was kinda dumb in a cute way just like Nellie and it was successfull in the theater and she was forced to do serious acting which maked her fail
A great piece of symbolism towards the end of the film:
When Tobey Maguire's character is pitching Manny on his movie ideas, his last pitch is basing an entire film around "someone". He insists Manny and the Count need to see for themselves and eventually takes them to an underground LA party with several different floors (the circles of hell). The final floor showcases a crowd hysterically cheering on a masked, muscled man to whom Tobey Maguire was referring to. Purposely depicted as a low IQ circus freak, the masked "hero" opens a basket containing live mice and proceeds to gruesomely eat one on stage. The crowd erupts in applause... I interpreted that scene as Chazelle's deliberate commentary on the Marvel/superhero studio cash grabs that have become the unfortunate reality of today's films. So perverse to cinema that they belong in the depths of hell. The mouse being eaten represents the desecration of Disney's iconic historic imagery, Mickey Mouse. (Disney purchased Marvel back in 2009)
Haha this is the most wicked theory I've ever read. I love marvel and disney for the most part, but I also love your theory so much. I will be sharing this with my friends, seriously thank you!!
Spider-Man No Way Home was much more enjoyable to sit through, ironically.
Damn just watched the movie and it didn’t even connect that that’s what he was saying, but I think you’re 100% spot on.
Wow such a great theory.
that's a great interpretation for that part of the movie. good stuff!
Jack Conrad goes through something similar although a bit more brutal than Leo's Rick Dalton in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. You can't help but feel sad for Jack because even though he cares about his image he is not overly full of himself or self-centered. He gives credit to George. He really loves making movies...he tells Manny making movies is the most magical thing. You know right then he loves what he does and those involved with it. Brad Pitt did amazing acting with his eyes as he becomes more saddened throughout the second half. Really felt like I was experiencing his sadness when he snuck into the movie and until the end.
Yea the fact that I knew he was gonna commit suicide the second Georgie died seeing as he almost died in Once upon a time Hollywood and he didn’t , I knew for sure he was gonna die this time. Especially that scene with the movie critic where she confirms his fears but reassures him he’ll live on forever
It was the only scene that really moved me, in such a chaotic movie Brad Pitt was able to make me feel something for his character, it wasn’t easy
I know a lot of people have called this film "scathing." I think if you've worked in the industry at all, it's hardly scathing, just accurate. But the final scene, to me, is a celebration of cinema as an ecosystem. It's not asking "was all this worth it???"; it's acknowledging that this massive, multifaceted living thing has darkness, has light, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows -- but it all exists as one. And despite what it takes from us, we live for what it gives to us.
Loved your take on the film, thank you!
BEAUTIFULLLLLLY SAID.
I agree entirely with @Puertorican King. Your comment beautifully describes my feelings as well and would be a wonderful addition to the video. Thank you!! So glad you enjoyed!
As soon as I left the theater I was looking for a vid like this. Great breakdown, amazing film. I really hope this wins awards. This film truly had every genre into one massive thrill ride.
I totally agree, I love this film so much too because it has so many different things I love about movies all in one movie, and I wasn't ever bored. So glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching!!
I think that one of the overarching themes of the film is the need to be loved at all costs. Much has been said about the kind of people who go into show business. Oftentimes, people enter the business already broken in some way, hoping that success and fame will heal them. It's clear when we first meet Nellie that she's damaged. But she has a gift--perhaps because of that damage--and it gives her a career. Sadly, she is so emotionally scarred that she is never able to find peace, to tame the demons that haunt her. Jack's issue is that he doesn't know who he is without success and adoration. He cannot exist without those things. He doesn't have the tools. Sydney, on the other hand, craves success because he wants to be better and do better than his contemporaries. He is the only character in the film who deserves his success, but he finds that the sacrifices he has to make are too great. Luckily, he has enough self-esteem and courage to save himself, as he is the least scarred of the main characters. I think that Sydney represents those who enter the business with good hearts and intentions, willing to do the work, but get chewed up anyway.
The first act had me questioning if this film would be good, but the rest of the film, specifically from the scene where Nellie takes 8 takes to do the scene, and onwards was perfect. Babylon deserved wayyy more praise than it got!!!
literally went in blind to this movie, didnt see any trailer or anything. man wtf i was so blind sided and loved it. i was surprised how late it was when i left, i didnt notice it was 3 hours. i felt maybe it was hard to piece together the themes tho so i went online and saw so many critics and other people complaining about it. jeez its crazy. anyway thanks for helping me see some of the through lines in the movie. good luck with more videos!
Yeah it seems to have really polarized the audience (critics and general audiences) but I'm glad there are people around who love it as much as you and me, and I hope the filmmaking team recognizes this side of the film's reception. I'm glad the video offered new insight, and thank you for watching! Plenty more to come!
Same, I came across it on Amazon prime. Watched it, was like woah… now I’m looking up reviews and critics of people feeling the same way/reaction. And also interviews from the director/production set etc
Watched it 3 times lol
Literally? Well that must have been painful
I watched this on Christmas 2 days ago, I’m 15, definitely was not expecting such an intense movie. I felt very uncomfortable throughout various moments including the grotesque and rather gruesome points but ultimately that was just an accurate representation of how absolutely chaotic and almost uncivilized the roaring 20s were. Manuel’s character was the one that I rooted for the entire film, I think he represents us, the viewers as he is an outsider of the industry until he almost gets consumed into it. Great video!
i don't know if i just grew up in a different time or what but i don't think i would've appreciated a movie like this when I was 15. Kudos to you
Dude your video was amazing. You kept it short and straight to the point. You broke it down better so i could understand each character on a deeper level more. The one thing I will say, I feel Mannie at the end is reliving the whole movie that we just watched in his head and how he said he wanted to make an impact in the film industry with Nelly, and he really did. And that’s why he smiles at the very end watching the cinema. Such a beautiful movie!!
This movie reminds me of The Weeknd’s ‘After Hours’ album and its themes about Hollywood and what it’s really about underneath the ‘Blinding Lights’ and wanting to ‘Escape From LA’ and that life style with Nellie LaRoy being the ‘Snowchild’, Jack Conrad losing his ‘Faith’ and Manny becoming ‘Heartless’ (those puns are intended). If you haven’t heard the album I’d recommend it especially if you’re XO fan and to watch the music videos in timeline order
great comparison! After Hours title track is still in heavy rotation for me
Right up there with the best movie critiques and synopses I've read. Thank you! You've genuinely made me excited to watch it, despite the many negative reviews it has received.
Dude, this was the best analysis I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much. and you got it up in literally one day after you watched it that’s so cool
Haha thank you so much, it's totally my pleasure! And yes, I got up pretty early to plan and edit the video, couldn't wait to share and hear all the ideas. Thank you so much for watching!!
This breakdown is fantastic! So many new insights I didn’t catch when watching the film. Thank you for this!!
Thank you so much! So glad I could offer some new ideas, and thank you for watching!!
This has been one of my most anticipated movies of this year for months.
I've just come out of the theater and I can confidently say it's my favorite out of this year and that's saying a lot, considering all the top tier movies we've had since January.
I'm also really glad you're one of the earliest people to review this. Not only do you have a very calming voice that's easy to listen to in your videos, but you also make plenty of valid points that I sometimes overlook.
For instance, I'd originally seen Manny's ending as more on the tragic side (despite being alive with a newfound family), I first felt that Nelly basically ruined his life by constantly dragging him into her mess.
After your review, I have a pretty different outlook on the final scene, especially after you mentioned her indirectly saving him from losing himself, and him crying at the end almost seems like tears of relief in retrospect.
Thank you for putting this video out so early!
Omg thank you so much, I’m so glad you loved this film so much because I loved it too and wondered if I was alone haha it’s one of my favourites of the year as well.
And I’m super thrilled my insights could offer a new perspective, that’s what’s so great about it. The 3 hour length is justified for me because there’s so much to think about and it’s of course entertaining throughout.
So happy you enjoyed the video, thank you so much for catching this video and seeing the movie!
@@lucasblue20 Most definitely!
I had the same feeling I'd felt upon viewing Avatar recently.
I didn't exactly feel the length of runtime for either of those movies because I was so captivated and enjoyed getting lost in these worlds so much that I was never in a hurry to leave.
It's been thrilling to have two 3 hour movies come out in December that not only made me think of what Cameron and Chazelle were trying to tell us both in front of and behind the camera (while being able to form our own takes on each subject matter), but also being able to view both films in ways that didn't necessarily feel like science, history or geography lessons, rather educational high school field trips that happened to take place at Universal Studios... at least that was the perspective in which I'd personally viewed both these modern day classics.
Wow wow wow. Love this review. You said what all the other critics can’t seem to grasp AND what people like me, who defend the film, can’t say as eloquently as you did. Thanks!
U posted this while I was in the theater watching this🔥 love ur view on it
Haha perfect timing, this movie was made for the theatre so I’m so glad you got to catch it, and im thrilled you loved the video! Thank you!!
The kindest review on this film I've seen so far. I've just finished watching and still digesting this film. It's definitely not close to Damien's previous works, but I do love the tainted and excessive view on the industry that spoiled everyone involved.
Lowered the weight of doubt with this explanation.
It's an absolute masterpiece, a classic to be! People find it choatic, well that's fully on purpose, that time period is called the roaring twenties for a good reason! Your analysis is spot on.
This is a wonderful review. We hope to see more amazing content like this. Happy Holidays.
Thank you!! Most certainly, I’ll have more on the way!
One of the things that I thought made Manny’s character really interesting is that he never really does anything on his own, even when he’s a studio exec. When he’s pushing the elephant up the mountain, it’s because the party hosts wanted it. When he shoots at the extras, it’s because Jack Conrad wanted it. When he told Sidney to put on black face, it’s because the editors and ceos wanted it. The only thing I think he ever did more because he wanted it than anything else was asking Nellie to marry him, and in the end, it was far too late. Even in his struggle to keep Nellie in the spotlight, he’s struggling between doing things for Nellie and doing things for the Execs. Sometimes one side wins, sometimes another, but I think in the end he chose to listen to the execs too much, and that’s what ultimately led to his downfall.
Amazing analysis. Can't wait to check this one out!
Thank you!! Yeah, I’d def recommend it. It’s a non-stop movie with some really interesting ideas, and the finale is incredible! Hope you enjoy!
I just saw Babylon and I really appreciate your beautiful analysis. You picked up on on the important themes running through the film.
Thank you! Yeah, it's a long film but it has so much to say, I had to analyze it. So glad you could appreciate the video, thank you for watching!!
Compliments Lucas. Enjoyed your presentation on the symbolism, mythical and archetypal
breakdown of the themes of Babylon. Your research is evident.
I think this type of art in cinema exploration could easily be the basis for a college level course. Well done.
Just finished the movie and wanted to watch some reviews. Yours is the first one I stumped upon. Thanks for this
So glad to hear you enjoyed it! Thank you!!
Amazing analysis! I think this is one of the greatest movies of all time!
Thank you!! And yes, I could see this being one of those films that ages into a classic or cult classic at least. Time will tell I guess, but I loved it!
A very nice, intriguing and coherent interpretation of the film. Thanks!
👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 very articulate well-spoken analysis of this movie 🎬 thank you 😊 I enjoy this movie and your break down of It.
Yea and yes!! You completely described it all so perfectly! Wow! Bravo. I was very sad to see them kill Jack Conrad instead of him just fading into obscurity. So Tragic but unfortunately happens far too often. I guess it wasn’t meant to have a happy ending with Nellie or Conrad.
I think you flipped it. To me it wasn't about people selling off their humanity but rather about the kinds of people that thrive and flame out in that environment. Eg the 'moths that are drawn to that flame.' Nellie starts out disfunctional -- she doesn't lose her humanity; she is already fragmented. She thrives because she craves the facade of stardom. She is escaping her shitty life by rolling in the indulgences of Hollywood. She can make one tear drop on cue because she is disconnected from her real feelings and who she really is. Hollywood isn't paying her to lose her humanity; it is paying her because she is broken in a way that is useful to it.
Manny thrives because he can get stuff done. When everyone else is too broken, drugged up, drunk or self-absorbed to be useful Manny is there to save the day. He is like Hollywood's designated driver.
Mostly the film is a mess because it is trying so hard to be outrageous that it doesn't care about earning moments of emotional truth. The film seems to give you a choice of characters to connect with and hopes that at least one of them will work for you.
This video is great man. Keep up the good work. My advice: try to get your background to look more professional and objective to get a broader amount of viewers
You absolutely NAILED this breakdown! Amazing video
Thank you so much! So glad you liked it!!
This video was exactly what I was looking for 🔥. I’ve seen the movie getting some hate and I actually liked this movie a lot to the point where I would actually rewatch it which isn’t common for me.
So glad you clicked with the film, I love it too! And yeah, it’s very much one you can rewatch for how fun it is and how layered it is. Thank you for watching!!
Glad to find a video actually discussing the themes etc of the movie, I just watched it last night and really enjoyed it then I come online and can only find massive criticisms.
Fantastic Analysis!
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I easily hit that subscribe button after your analysis for this film!
I thought the scene where pitt realizes his career isnt going anywhere was the best. One of the only scenes that didnt feel dragged out, pointless or rushed
Selfish to me dude made over 82movies 😂
Lucas, Fabulous analysis of the movie Babylon. I like period pieces like this. I havent even seen it yet. But it's long so I will see it on netflix or video. Thanks for the upload.
Thank you! Yeah you might really like this movie, I’m noticing some people are loving it and others are hating it, so it’s nevertheless an interesting watch, hope you enjoy it!!
Fantastic video essay! Subscribed, and going to watch more.
This means so much, thank you! Hope you enjoy the others!
Love your analysis! The tittle of the film might also reference Keneth Angers book, Hollywood Babylon where he explored a lot of gossip and scandals of the pre code Hollywood. I just find this movie and themes so fascinating and tragic.
Loved this movie so much. The only thing that bothered me was the closing montage
Hey man, great breakdown, I didnt realise the amount of the stuff I missed until your breakdown, just discovered your channel, your quality is top notch but I hope you work on your thumbnails, cant wait to see you get the recognition you deserve!!!
Thank you so much my friend, I'm so glad I could offer some new angles on it! I hope you enjoy the rest of the channel, and I'll most certainly take your advice into account. Thank you again, this all really means a lot!!
Thank you!!! Didn't see the film yet but love your videos!
It's a polarizing one but I love it, I'd certainly recommend checking it out! Thank you for watching!!
Great analysis! I've seen this movie 3 times already (it was released in January in my country) and I love every piece of it. Every time I watch it I notice something new, might go 4th time 🍿
This was a brilliant analysis I subbed
Thank you so much! Plenty more to come!!
@@lucasblue20 you’re welcome
Amazing analysis. Wish more critics and people who think they're critics saw it the same way.
I loved this movie. I think it also critiqued the excessive lifestyles of the roaring 20s while showing its awesome glory. The girl dying at the party and simply being replaced by nellie or the owners being the only ones not having fun bc they sold their souls. Then theres the whole toby maguire fucked up shit. Really shows the dangers that come with this level of power and freedom.
This movie captivated me and repulsed me at the same time. I found myself falling in love with the beauty while being incredibly uncomfortable with some of the themes and gore. It was a wild experience and I’m guessing exactly what Chazelle was going for. Thank you for your analysis. It firmed up some things I felt during the movie and wove it all together beautifully. Makes me appreciate the movie even more. Sadly, I wonder if many viewers will get past the rather rank facade to see the deeper meaning of this film.🤔
Ps is it weird that I like Margot more as Nellie than Barbie? This role was made for her. ❤
Yes, it really was made for her. She was not originally cast for the role. Emma Stone was but because of the delay from the pandemic, by the time they filmed it, Emma had a conflict and had to give the role up, which is when they got Robie to do it. I can see Emma doing a great job as well but Margot killed it.
I just finished the movie and it was very enjoyable like you said it was so very chaotic and even though the movie was over 3 hours it went very quickly. The theme of every character stripping themselves of they're humanity to succeed in Hollywood was very engaging for me and they all hit so differently. The movie reminded me of boogie nights. The one scene with manny goes the drug lord house with the enforcer constantly spitting really reminded me of the boogie nights scene when they try and Rob the drug dealer and the little kid is lighting fireworks in the house where the tension just kept building and building and then everything thing comes to a crazy climax. It felt like they were descending into hell from the freak show orgy to the dude eating the rats i thought it was fucking wild i really like that it felt very unexpected. Overall I really was invested in the characters and enjoyed the movie but for me the one standout was Margot Robbie she was amazing her acting abilities have gotten so good. After watching Babylon i thought man she has to be nominated for academy award and I was really surprised she didn't get a nomination cuz I thought she had one of the better performances of any the movie I seen this year from a leading female. Maybe not to win it but not to even get nominated That's so messed up. I wonder if the academy took this movie and insult cuz I could see it being taken that way even though stylistically and acting was it was great. I thought you had a great insight about the movie I really appreciate the breakdown
I saw the trailers to this and yeah it is pretty batshit insane can’t thank you enough for this video on this movie. Your analysis is very deep and insightful as always merry Christmas 🎄🎁 and happy New Year 🎆🎊.
Yeah it’s relentless, never a dull moment. And thank you so much for the well wishes! Merry Christmas to you and your close ones, cheers!
@@lucasblue20 🙏🏾🙏🏾 keep these videos coming so tragic how it ended for Margot Robbie and Brad Pitts characters in this movie !
Thank you for this wonderfully detailed analysis. I wonder if this will be similar to "Reds" .. that passed with little fanfare in early 1980's, and will gain more viewers in the future.
Hello sir,
I started following your channel ever since the la la land explanation and I'm really huge fan of your content. I had a small request could you please review Kantara. It's available on Netflix and Amazon prime.
Wow since La La Land, that was quite a while ago haha but that’s so cool that you stuck around, thank you! And I’ve never heard of this film, but I’ve just added it to my watchlist and potential video list. Thank you again!!
I thought he cry for the young female actor bringing memories after watching a movie about them
This was a beautifully shot movie with an a list cast with something to say. Unfortunately, it had two things going against it. One, people generally do not like inside Hollywood movies. There are some exceptions, but it is not a subject matter that many regular people care for. Two, the American 1920's in not an interesting decade. After WWI but before the depression, it is mostly known for Babe Ruth and Great Gatsby parties. It does not even have the class divide thing that British and Europe has to exploit for stories like "Downton Abbey". It was new rich trashy people living it up. It might be the least interesting decade of the whole 20th century.
The ending of the movie made me see why I love cinema all over again
Great as always
Manny regresa a México y al poco tiempo comienza la etapa del cine de oro mexicano en 1936-1956, una coincidencia curiosa.
Great analysis!
Thank you!!
I loved it.... I love how it asked questions of us about our own lives and position in the world...... the way our own rose tinted view of our experiences end up being confronted with scary change... but that scary change is the rose tinted view of the next generation.
Just like the amazing Elinor St John says to Jack Conrad, you won't be the first - the cycle will continue for goodness knows how long.
I also loved the reflection on cinema creating a few immortal beings to be icons for as long as we remember them (Jack), on how it destroys countless more lives with broken dreams (Nellie), but also gives a blessed few the realisation that they value their talent and can find their own path (Sidney).
But importantly, I feel like it leaves a final question of 'where is cinema going next?'
Ultimately, it's a love letter to cinema.... but with warts and all.
Yeah that was a great breakdown of the film 💯🙏🏿
This means a lot, thank you so much!!
Definitely a love letter to old hollywood and black/white/nontalking films. Super deep film.
One thing that seems self-evident to me is that Babylon's opening sequence - basically, the big orgy - is suggestively mirrored in the film's final sequence, a veritable orgy of historical cinematic images, ultimately broken down into their most basic constituent elements: dye, image, celluloid, etc. (Oddly, much of the final sequence, with the blurry multi-colored dyes unfolding like abstracted flower petals in an underwater ballet, is suggestively comparable to the psychedelic space trip sequence toward the end of 2001.) I think Lucas lays out the case rather well that the film's principal characters, having achieved fame and power in the industry in various capacities, live rather emotionally bereft, threadbare lives - that in spite of fame and power, they live their passions vicariously through the industry and the image created of them , and that once their fame and power - and most importantly, their PR constructed image - fade, they themselves no longer have a reason to exist. They no longer have any image of themselves, and in fact, really never did. But most important, I think, is the film's warning to audiences: yes, cinema is an extraordinary gift, but today we ourselves live in an unending orgy of images, displacing our passions and living vicariously through a steady stream of projections in the form of movies, TV, advertising, etc.They are nothing but constructions, amusements, deceptions - ink, paper, celluloid, digital bytes. You are the real thing. See yourself.
Just saw it and loved it. Thanks for your breakdown of the film. 🎬
So happy to hear there are people like you and me loving it (it's a polarizing release for sure). And thank you so much for watching!!
Great analysis.
Thank you!!
Phenomenal essay!
Thank you so much!!
I thought somehow when nellie neck was bitten by the snake it would make her voice some how better and her career sky rockets again
Art can and will never depreciate
I thought the film was garbage. I have to say that your breakdown of the film is thoughtful and intelligent. Keep up the good work!
How is it garbage
@@FwJT_ It is ill conceived, it looks terrible, and is constantly noisy and boring. It's a mess in every way, while being curiously prudish despite all the debauchery on display.
I love film and so does Damien Chazelle
loveddd the way you broke down the movie
So great to hear you loved this, it means a lot! Thank you!!
Fantastic insight! Subd
Thank you so much!! More on the way very soon!
This was a great movie I'll say this and The Whale will be a seriously hard coin flip for best film of the year at the Oscars
Thank you .
The saddest movie of the year, it reminds us we are nothing but cockroaches. To be replaced by younger and stronger, and when our looks fade….all we will have is our memories.
I think there's more to the end. The scene goes like "music, lights, and camera" (with the 3/2/1) pointing out that the real actors of tomorrow's cinema are sitting in the theater. That's my opinion though!
Big thumb up from france !!!
That dungeon part of the movie was fucking wild
Seriously
If u had a letterboxd I’d def follow. I think u got one of the best explained videos for every movie
Wow thank you so much, that really means a lot! If I ever get a letterboxd I’ll surely let you know. Thanks so much for watching!
Honestly before this movie I didn’t know it took that much work to make a movie. The scene where they take so many takes because the sound and people keep interrupting them. Who would have thought there are so many ups and downs when making art.
This was a great video for a great movie
Thank you so much! I loved the movie as well!!
Pretty much spot on.
You’ve earned a sub from me man. Just watched it last night and I really enjoyed it and I enjoyed your breakdown on the movie. I see Hollywood as the main character while the stars in this movie are the ones being controlled. I loved how it showed how evil in nature Hollywood can be. It being a love letter to cinema while also showing the hatred of cinema.
Yeah it seems like Chazelle really enjoys highlighting the qualities and drawbacks of the things he loves. And yeah, he makes the subject matter it’s own character that persuades and manipulates the human characters. I totally agree, thank you so much for watching and subscribing! Plenty more on the way!!
The Babylon system is the vampire - Bob Marley
You can't be in Hollywood if you don't give up every bit of yourself it's not going to happen they don't care about your talent there's a lot of talented people out here what they're looking for are Muses.
I dont see hiw critics didnt like this movie. So many called its themes pretentious or lacking in execution but i think it was perfect
good ass video
I just finished the movie! I enjoyed it and like it !
I just watched this movie. Loved it. Indescribable but feels good.
Nice video from the sidemen and their colleague Ethan
This movie Deserved to get nominated for Best Oscar instead of Top Gun Maverick and Avatar 2 how much money 💰 a movie makes should have nothing to do with it's maret or weather it gets a nom or not I loved this movie 😍👍
My Favorite part is when they introduce tobeys crazy ass lol. I was thinking when i saw him in there that they went and got bully maguire lol.
Babylon is a love letter to cinema but a hate letter to Hollywood. I’m a huge Margot Robbie fan, she was amazing, beautiful, and tragic.
I remember when I watched this movie, I thought this movie reminds me of The Great Gatsby