Our first home was a large two story built on site house with a real soldered tin roof with built a built in gutter system. The gutters originally, 1830s, fed into a large underground cistern behind the home. The gutters were part of the soldered tin roof. About 4” deep and 10” wide. 160 years later there were still zero leaks and they did there job well!
4” outlet seems too small for that area especially if there is a really heavy downpour,With all the leaves and other crap that seem to be around that building I reckon they could cause some clogging problems too.I would’ve allowed for a 6” outlet just in case.
Many of the old (like pre 1900 or so) two and three family houses around me were built with gutters like this, we always called them Yankee gutters. Over the years the great majority have been covered over and regular gutters used, but the Yankee gutters worked fine and were actually much larger than the gutters used today, until they rusted or rotted out.
@@tacojohnhg8181 On a normal roof, the zip would be the waterproof layer. I guess with the very low pitch they opted to add a butyl rubber layer on top of it. Still, poor form.
Nice gutter, big enough. I’ve seen this only once on an old house I had worked on. I have traditional gutters on my place and every winter I am disappointed. 🤷♀️
It can last up to 80 years! In addition to being highly resistant to corrosion, copper is also an algaecide and fungicide. This prevents moss and other growth from forming blockages in the system that must be cleaned regularly. In addition to being visually pleasing, the patina coating acts as a protectant. Unlike other gutter materials, copper is not susceptible to underside corrosion. Because of its sturdy construction and built-in protection system, it is easily the most trouble-free material to use for roofing, cladding, flashing, gutters, and down pipes.
How much does an 8.5"x5"x30' copper trough (assuming 16oz sheet) full of water weigh? A lot is the answer and that cross beam attached to the compromised rafters is questionable about whether it will create a sag in the middle of that 30' span. Then, water just sits in the trough. Unconvinced.
Sure, if there's a clog that causes the gutter to fully fill, that could be a problem. But in normal situations, the water is constantly draining, so the structure is more than adequate.
I literally came into the comments section to post the same exact thing. Unless you've operated a circular saw every single day of your life for the past 40 plus years, DO NOT try cutting wood like this!
That downspout is absolutely not enough. A 3x4 downspout can handle 1,200 square feet, that downspout looked 3" round, roof is 1,800 square feet. Overflow in their future.
This is one BAD gutter design! An open top, watertight trough built into the roof. What could possibly go wrong?! We all know, despite good home maintenance efforts, leaves, pine needles etc. will accumulate then rot, block the drain, freeze over. The freezing will eventually cause a seam to split and the inevitable leaks WILL OCCUR! And all to hide the gutter system?! Should have extended the thing through to the eave/overhang to provide another discharge point.
Why couldn't a oversized traditional gutter be used. All the extra framing and sealing seems like a poor choice. And dont use a razor knife directly on top of zip roof.🤦♂️
Regardless of what was said about adding a beam, that overhang is compromised and won’t stand up to the loads over time. The roof is so cut up that it will leak within the first winter. Bad design all around.
There’s a house toh remodeled in one of their first seasons with Bob Villa and Norm that had built in gutters. It would overflow and leak back into the wall and rotted a few feet from the edges of the roof and huge sections of the wall.
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Our first home was a large two story built on site house with a real soldered tin roof with built a built in gutter system. The gutters originally, 1830s, fed into a large underground cistern behind the home. The gutters were part of the soldered tin roof. About 4” deep and 10” wide. 160 years later there were still zero leaks and they did there job well!
Yeah, workmanship was considerably better years ago
Long-lasting, yes, but that original solder contained a LOT of lead. Don't drink from that cistern.
This new series, with updated construction techniques is awesome. Happy New Year guys and gals.
4” outlet seems too small for that area especially if there is a really heavy downpour,With all the leaves and other crap that seem to be around that building I reckon they could cause some clogging problems too.I would’ve allowed for a 6” outlet just in case.
Many of the old (like pre 1900 or so) two and three family houses around me were built with gutters like this, we always called them Yankee gutters. Over the years the great majority have been covered over and regular gutters used, but the Yankee gutters worked fine and were actually much larger than the gutters used today, until they rusted or rotted out.
love to see the updated tools, now everything seems more secure by 100%
New use for a speedsquare.
Why would you cut the material on other material made to seal against elements?
The top is that zip system sheathing. They don't have the waterproof layer on yet
@@tacojohnhg8181 On a normal roof, the zip would be the waterproof layer. I guess with the very low pitch they opted to add a butyl rubber layer on top of it. Still, poor form.
Pretty cool. I like it
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Did anyone notice the guy cutting the waterproof membrane right along the GAF tape?
Count that as something I'll never do to my house.
Nice gutter, big enough. I’ve seen this only once on an old house I had worked on. I have traditional gutters on my place and every winter I am disappointed. 🤷♀️
Why copper? Can someone give an explanation.
It can last up to 80 years! In addition to being highly resistant to corrosion, copper is also an algaecide and fungicide. This prevents moss and other growth from forming blockages in the system that must be cleaned regularly. In addition to being visually pleasing, the patina coating acts as a protectant. Unlike other gutter materials, copper is not susceptible to underside corrosion. Because of its sturdy construction and built-in protection system, it is easily the most trouble-free material to use for roofing, cladding, flashing, gutters, and down pipes.
Because Copper is better than Robber i think
They don’t make them in gold
@@JakMang 😂😂😂
It's purdy
How much does an 8.5"x5"x30' copper trough (assuming 16oz sheet) full of water weigh? A lot is the answer and that cross beam attached to the compromised rafters is questionable about whether it will create a sag in the middle of that 30' span. Then, water just sits in the trough. Unconvinced.
Sure, if there's a clog that causes the gutter to fully fill, that could be a problem. But in normal situations, the water is constantly draining, so the structure is more than adequate.
Anyone else get very scared for Tommy's fingers @1:48 ?
I literally came into the comments section to post the same exact thing. Unless you've operated a circular saw every single day of your life for the past 40 plus years, DO NOT try cutting wood like this!
WTF I have the utmost respect for Tom but when i saw this I nearly fell over. They dont call him ten finger Tommy for nuthin....
That downspout is absolutely not enough.
A 3x4 downspout can handle 1,200 square feet, that downspout looked 3" round, roof is 1,800 square feet. Overflow in their future.
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This is one BAD gutter design! An open top, watertight trough built into the roof. What could possibly go wrong?! We all know, despite good home maintenance efforts, leaves, pine needles etc. will accumulate then rot, block the drain, freeze over. The freezing will eventually cause a seam to split and the inevitable leaks WILL OCCUR! And all to hide the gutter system?! Should have extended the thing through to the eave/overhang to provide another discharge point.
It took me almost a full minute to realize that’s not a commercial building
Why couldn't a oversized traditional gutter be used. All the extra framing and sealing seems like a poor choice. And dont use a razor knife directly on top of zip roof.🤦♂️
All that work, just to hide the gutter. Sheesh!!
Regardless of what was said about adding a beam, that overhang is compromised and won’t stand up to the loads over time. The roof is so cut up that it will leak within the first winter. Bad design all around.
This is kind of ridiculous.
Tommy with the perfect squeegee. 🤪
OH WOW, I'm going out right now, buy $10k of copper sheet and put in my own built in gutter....yup.🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣
1:08 is that a gutter ? Bro standing there for 2 minutes did not notice 😂
Ok bro
Prime example of someone with money. Yet no common sense. Some things should not be built. Specially to withstand the test of time.
It’s like the architect didn’t think about the effects that would be created by the design.
They have more dollars than cents/sense!
There’s a house toh remodeled in one of their first seasons with Bob Villa and Norm that had built in gutters. It would overflow and leak back into the wall and rotted a few feet from the edges of the roof and huge sections of the wall.
Some people shouldn't be allowed to make comments like these.
@@yongyea4147 Move to China then.
So makeshift
Ridiculous details to try and save bad architecture.