SpaceX Starship: Final Launch Preparations! Will IFT-4 Make It?
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Starship's first flight anniversary! So much changed!
Flight 4 preparations continue! What happened to the tiles?
Rocket Lab is getting close to Electron reuse! Mars Sample Return is in danger, and ExoMars restarted!
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What do you think Starship will achieve by this time next year? Drop your predictions in the comments, and let’s revisit them in 2025!
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Predicciones Starship 2024:
IFT-4 (Ship 29/B11) segunda quincena de Mayo, Booster logra aterrizar pero no controladamente, starship sobrevive la reentrada y se estrella en el mar.
IFT-5 (Ship 30/B12) Inicios de Julio, suspenden atrapado de Booster, así que aterriza en el mar, Starship tiene exáctamente el mismo perfil de vuelo que IFT-4
IFT-6 (Ship 31/B13 Algún momento de septiembre, intentan atrapar el booster y sale bien pero no lo reutilizan, Starship intenta hacer una maniobra de aterrizaje propulsado
IFT-7 (Ship 32/B14) En Diciembre para analizar mejor los datos, Intentan aterrizar el booster una vez más y Starship tiene exáctamente el mismo perfil de vuelo que IFT-6
-Después de Ship 32 y B14 Hay una ralentización pequeña pero no considerable en la cadencia de lanzamientos, para después de unos meses volver a aumentar
-Ship 31, más probablemente Ship 32 hará el primer encendido estático en el flame deflector de Massey's, entre Septiembre y Diciembre
-En la Segunda OLM sólo hay señales de trabajo de rebabas (foundation) (fin de año)
-Starfactory está terminada en su exterior y se ve hermosa (fin de año)
-En todo 2024 no vemos ninguna Starship V2 ni Super Heavy V2
-Todos los tanques verticales han sido removidos (fin de año)
-El nuevo edificio de oficinas está terminado (fin de año)
-Highbay tiene puerta (año 2025, inicios de año o algunas semanas/meses de haber iniciado)
-En todo 2024 no se ve actividad en la OLM de florida
-No cargas útiles en Starship V1, sólo pruebas de diseños para el dispensador PEZ
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I'm 74 years old and grew up as a boy watching the first astronaut launches culminating in John Glenn orbiting in 1963. I never lost the dream of manned exploration of space. Now it's becoming real. I just hope I live long enough to see us land on Mars. THANK YOU Elon!
Ooops! February 20, 1962
Also, I think the culmination was the moon landing on July 16, 1969.
I could have written the exact same opinion but made just one change...I am 73. I was hooked on it all and America (I am English) shared it all with us, triumphs and failures. And now Spacex, I am hooked again
yeah, me too!
Live long and prosper 🖖
Red and blue Adhesives relate to permanent and temporary adhesives. A tile that wont need to be removed to gain access to the area under it, or they know wont need to be removed gets the red stuff. Where as a trial fit tile, or one that might need to be removed for access to what is under it gets the blue sticky stuff. Just like Lock Tite.
Why don't they manually weld pins like they use for the other tiles?
I have to wonder if sending more advanced analytical equipment in a specialized robotic lab to Mars, wouldn't be far cheaper than a sample return mission. The huge leap in AI, barely imagined 10 years ago, could likely do as much scientific examination on site, as here on Earth. What Perseverance has been able to achieve with its level of design has been remarkable. A Percy II, based on today's capabilities, would be phenomenal!
Starship’s greatest contribution to a potential Mars Sample Return mission isn’t a cheap launch, but a much greater mass budget, which will greatly simplify the design and construction of all the other necessary parts, which will make those parts cheaper and easier and quicker to make.
starship lands people to Mars, they will just pick up the samples far earlier than ANY unmanned mission!!!
I don't see how a Starship can help with MSR. You need simplicity, not mass. Starship's only potential role is if you put a trans-Mars stage + lander inside Starship and that simply doesn't exist and can't even escape the cargo bay in current designs. Far better to build a traditional system and put it onto 1 or more Falcon Heavies if you want this mission done in a reasonable time frame. As Felix said, launch costs are not a major factor in mission cost.
No one should be expecting Starship to become a Mars vehicle anytime soon unless they want their mission cancelled after multiple delays and the whole concept of MSR is nearing the end of its rope. If you're designing a mission, you assume that Starship doesn't exist... because it doesn't. What you do have is the greatest rocket program of all time and it's called the Falcon family.
Dig it Dude! Yeah !
@@antibrevityStarship’s promise of affordable mass helps TREMENDOUSLY because it’s much, much easier to design the systems needed for the return mission if you’re not struggling to keep the mass low. Designing a return from Mars with 50 tons of available hardware and fuel is SO much easier than designing a return with one ton of hardware and fuel. 👍
The cost per ton is absolutely relevant to making it to Mars.
However, this system, while designed for Mars, will end up being so much more useful.
Such as space mining, now we can slow, eventually stop all together, and MAJORLY help with climate change.
Space platforms to have transportation hubs, for not just international flights, but things like manufacturing. Who knows, maybe the ship that goes to Mars will be built in such an environment and just carry starship as a primary reentry and launch vehicle.
There will be many, many other applications that have not even been thought about yet.
Similar to magnetic residence, he had no clue what so ever that it would be used massively for medical imaging, yet MRI are live saving machines used daily.
Sample return? Starship. Bring back the rover with the samples on board and the helicopter.
Felix makes space so fun! This is such an informative and illuminating channel. Let’s Go team Space X! 🚀
Once they get the exterior done on the Star Factory done, there will be a lot of interior work -- wiring, plumbing, ventilation, equipment, etc.
Electrical, Plumbing, HVAC work does not wait for exterior to be done. Once the basic frame is constructed, all of this is taking place concurrently. It's common for high-rise buildings to have completely finished floors before the upper floors are even built. And remember, SpaceX builds stuff even faster than typical commercial contractors!
im really hyped for ift 4
I´m really hyped for ift 5. Hope they´ll attempt a catch if 4 goes well....
I think that IFT 6 or 7 will see the first landing, considering the super heavy has to hover exactly in place.
@@djw7141 They MIGHT get 30 tonnes to orbit with flight 100........
I have always felt that the vertical tanks were a temporary stopgap measure that they built on site or not meant for long-term use. It takes months or years to have horizontal tanks made and transported and I feel like they were working on time constraints and a budget
"[SpaceX] are the people that turn impossible into late."
Very nice.
"The difficult I'll do right now, the impossible will take a little while . . ."
Mars return mission - Spacex could set up a starship with a clamshell nose, and an anchoring mechanism to secure the ship (plus other sundries like solar panels, etc), stuff they will need for their own future missions, and carry the mars return mission. If NASA had that much space to package the mission, they could include a LOT of individual components, possible a secondary return rocket, etc. This would go a long ways (literally) in understanding some of the issues that will occur with a manned mission, especially with a cryogenic fueled landing craft.
SpaceX will have people on Mars by the time they get near returning those samples. They'll just send a guy out on a rover haha.
SpaceX came from landing tests to su-orbital crashes and incapable to close a garage door in 5 years
where do you see them in another 5 years?
@@benjaminmeusburger4254prepping a few tankers on orbit to send a buncha guys to the moon
Hypothetically, the first Starship that returns from Mars could carry all the old Mars landers and rovers for museums.
No. They don't belong to our museums. They belong to Mars and should be protected there from future colonists, protecting the landing sides from any kind of modifications
They should be in MARTIAN museums bruh
Musk has stated that the first Starships to reach Mars will be scrapped for construction materials. Also, gathering up all of those landers and rovers from the surface of Mars would be a huge task that no one wants to do.
ironically if one considers the longevity of the landscape on Mars and other celestial bodies artefacts would be much more long lived then in a museum on earth where political unrest or simple societal change would invariably limit their endurance to a few hundred years compared to hundreds of millions of years on the surface of Mars
Cheers
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Those first landers contain anything but parts for prefabricated facilities of predicted necessary types builds in risks for the first people to arrive. Parts for prefabricated buildings that would be buried by robotic bulldozers (also in loads delivered early), mining equipment, at least one prefabricated fuel production facility, rovers that operate in manned and unmanned missions, meteorological measurement equipment, and the necessary AI assembly machines and machinery to fabricate necessary structures and machines for *_unpredicted needs_* are all things I think should be delivered to a fairly compact area well before any people are sent. Save cannibalizing any ships until there is a demonstrated need to do so. A hundred ships sent for this purpose puts 10,000 metric tons of usable equipment on Mars and another 10,000 metric tons of usable stainless steel *_if it is required_* or 100 ships whose useful parts can be viewed as "parts inventory" for the later arriving manned ships.
1. Super heavy tower landing
2. Successful flip maneuver and soft landing in ocean of Upper stage
3. 1st payloads
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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This is truly inspiring. I was hoping for launch 4 on May 4th… but any time in May will be a strong test program. I am hoping that Launch 4 is 100% successful so we can see a catch on launch 5 with Starlink being launched successfully by Launch 7… ladies, gentlemen… place your bets 😂
Mars Return Mission - Just saying but, has anyone involved with this EVER watched any Sci-Fi that deals with the return of samples from another planet? Ya know like maybe “The Andromeda Strain”, “Life", “Species”, “Alien", or the “Thing", just a name a few. Yeah, yeah, I know it is fiction, but it is amazing how fast can become fact.
Felix, you and your team are kicking ass!!! 👍 I learn so much from your channel! I really see no reason to go to other channels to get all things space data/entertainment/updates! Love your humor throughout each post! Keep up the amazing work!!!
Today too is one year my second son Vicente , I watched the first launch inside the nurse room in maternity...
Great channel and never miss an episode, thank you for what you do!!! Also love the bloopers at the end. 🤣🤣👨🚀🖖
I never understood why Perseverance has been dropping the samples all over the place. Surely keeping them in one place (inside the rover) and then dumping in one site would have made far more sense?
That's a great idea
afaik they collect two or three sample tubes from each spot. one is kept in the rover as primary sample for a return mission, the regulary dropped ones are a backup in case the rover fails at the time of the return mission and cannot release the primary samples anymore.
They should have been dropping off seismometers instead of packaging samples for return. The return is too expensive for NASA and they will never fund it. A network of seismometers would tell a lot about the internal structure of Mars including ice deposits and CO2 deposits and strata
The other problem with collecting samples for return is NASA’s internal politics. There will be some managers who will try to kill alternative projects competing for the funding … regardless how compelling the alternative project would be. Their reputations will be destroyed if the sample return project is a total waste of money because it never delivered. Anyone else returning samples will collect their own samples
Even the concept of separate collection and return processes seems highly suspect.
Felix, I love your passion! Listening to you is so Amazing! I have decided to upgrade my membership as I feel you are now the RUclips leader in Starship and everything Space and Launch related. Thank You!
Thank You dear Felix
I believe that SpaceX will catch the booster by Flight 6 or 7, and in the same timeframe they will try out refuelling. They have been making progress extremely fast so I believe that they could get this done very late this year
And in what timeline do you expect to have launch 7?
I think we will see 4-5 launches in the next 12 months, Booster catch, Starlink Dispenser and maybe Ship2Ship refueling in orbit. I'm worried about the heat tiles, for me the weakest point in the whole system/concept.
chapter marks! Please put chapter marks in your videos. Based on your introduction, I think you’re trying to pivot away from being exclusively focused on starship into being a chat that has a broader coverage of events in space which is good. However, I don’t wanna have to listen to the entire thing to hear about some thing that you teased at the beginning. if you’re going to try and make me do that I’m just gonna leave without watching.
I do not want the video chopped into chapters.
May I suggest that you read the various comments while listening to the video. There is much valuable information in the comments.
Assuming that you can listen and read at the same time.
@jeremytaylor3532 the videos are already separated into chapters . Would take the editors a few minutes to do it formerly. I usually move on after Starship is dealt with as I'm bored with "doing the youtube "things. Occasionally I am interested in other space projects, but not all.
Bye ;)
Pretty sound and constructive feedback, I agree.
@@jacklunsford7528 you’re accusing me of giving sound and constructive feedback? Are you trying to get me banned off of RUclips?
land the booster, successful reentry of starship, Eventually the Booster Catch, and Ship catch
Hopefully 🤞
Awesome update, and nice throwback to The Last Starfighter, loved that film🎉😊
Great Video ! For the MSR have the Mars Rover drive to the Mars Surface Outpost/Base or pick up the samples in Mars Low Orbit ! Then the Samples can be dropped off at an isolated Lunar Surface Lab... to protect the Samples and the Biosphere of Earth ! ! ! tjl
I think on the second tower we may see steel plates and active cooling on the launch mount legs and the shielding on top of the OLM too, it would eliminate the need for painting the launch pad legs after every launch
Nice update!
Capturing the booster is ridiculous. Rockets follow all different trajectories - that's why drone ships are used.
Too much fuel will be used during boost back, meaning smaller and lighter payloads that don't go out as far.
Smaller and lighter with Starship still means more than Saturn V. And with on-orbit refueling they'll be able to "go out" a lot farther.
I hope SpaceX is building a proper Kerbal Space Center. That office building looks like it.
Felix! So glad to see you!
The real deadline for starbase construction is before a hurricane hits. September is the peak hurricane month.
Stag 1 chopstick catch by this time next year....likely not as early as IFT-5 but soon after.
Sample return - Prospectors from Muskton will be mailing them to NASA?
cool stuff man, love following your channel
in the next yr: a streak of perfect mechazilla catches
Who is going to the Mars? WE ARE, and WAI will tell you all about! Thanks Felix!
Not me man. Too claustrophobic, but i will sit on the sidelines and scream my head off cheering for everyone who wants to go! Woot!
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Great article today from Eric Berger about possible modifications to the Artemis program. Sounds like Artemis III will likely just be a test of Orion/Starship rendezvous in earth orbit.
If they do catch the booster during the fifth flight, don't you think they will need a flame deflection system on the side where they will be doing the catching? If not a water suppression system may be re-enforcing the concrete, so the booster doesn't dig another hole.
Concrete covered with steel plates now.
Great video, thanks mate!
Excellent stuff bro
Another great video Felix ….Thankyou
I predict that the predicted accuracy of future predictions will fall short of the hoped predicted accuracy...
I'm just glad I wasn't trying to drink something when I read your comment.
Thanks guys, very interesting. Have a great weekend. M. ❤
Just have SpaceX figure out the sample return mission. They will get it done faster and at a fraction of the cost!
Hey Felix
We enjoy the updates on every
episode ! If you can talk to Elon , I be been studying how they may be able to secure heat tiles better . Keep using the pins , but make the tiles Tongue and Groove fit all around tiles with some slack between them to allow for temperature changes !
This would lock tiles together and the pins will keep them centered and stationary . Also on the last tiles on edges use titanium Z shaped bars to lock edge tiles and leave expansion space also .
Thanks
Hope this doesn’t sound too stupid to mention 🧐✝️
Why not have sample return mission use a car sized space plane with a ejected sled landing undercarriage then extended maneuver wheels to make it a rover a topside hatch door set with robotic grab arm with flexibility lift fingers to pick up the samples and a few under 4 " rocks, close up top lower forward skids on rover wheels then rocket back using testing of a methanol rocket and some solid booster ones to get off planet. Then use ion engines to get back to earth slow and steady
How about a Tesla Roadster with an Optimus inside?
Thank you.
I keep thinking that an autogiro copter could make it safely to the surface of Mars. Now that we know the Perseverance could fly with its rotary wings why not a high performance autogiro? High heat resistance and high spin speed adjustable blades. Still might need the retro rockets to slow down . Another total rethink is to design an actual saucer shaped craft that is a huge gyroscope; something like a Frisbee that uses both gyro energy for stability and air resistance to have a parachute effect. Ship it folded and unfold and spin up at an optimal height.
I think the best advancement from SpaceX and Starship is bringing back the excitement for space.
Thank you, Felix
I would love to see at least five launches in the next 12 months.
Maybe two if you are lucky. The problems will take ages to fix.
@@rogerphelps9939eh still faster than NASA
Good coverage! 👍👍👍 U.S.A. 🇺🇸
Love your content ❣
Thanks for providing all of the accurate Star Ship data.
"That led to the installation of the fire prevention system." Correction. From my understanding, Musk had the deflector planned and in the middle of fabrication when IFT1 took off. It was debated whether or not he would wait for it or pray the concrete would survive. Elon went with praying in his impatience to launch on 4/20
I reckon they'll achieve fuel transfer in space by this time next year.
That is as well as catching booster as well💪!
Goooo SpaceX!!
Well to be honest many minor glitches are popping up. So i give booster controlled to hit target a yes. But starship going as far as surviving re entry but heat will disable it to crash un controlled.
I hope to see the booster get caught by the tower. And a successful landing of starship!
I day next year this time we might see a starship leo fuel depo moke-up, and preparation of hla launches.
1 year from now they will be in final preparation for the second orbital refueling test. Which will include the final goal of placing a Cybertruck on the Moon…. Maybe they would modify the Cybertruck to do a few laps?
Wait what, it's really been a year since the 1st flight??????? Kinda rather amazed by this. It is crazy to think about
Heat is not as much of a problem with the recovery of boosters or fairings as you imply. The second stage separates and fairings are released when the system is going less than mach 5. Reentry from LEO is at mach 25. And remember your high school physics! The energy which must be eliminated is proportional to the *square* of the velocity. So the booster only needs to handle 1/25th of the energy!
I'm impressed with all the SpaceX Teams that have done great things together.
It would be interesting if they were able to mount the old engines on a Falcon Booster/2nd Stage Just use them. I know they use different fuels...but it be good test of them despite them going next generation of engines. There isn't a lot flight time on them, frankly it goes along with their tradition failing forwards. That's better testing with engines in air and throttling.
Thanks Felix
The hype for Flight 4 is real!
Thanks WAI! :)
"Turn the impossible into late" best throwaway line ever :)
Great presentation again,giggles for the spoken parts with your lips not moving.😂
They should glue heat tiles to the stand legs
This would be a good way to test the glue. And protect the legs.
If you want to go down in history in the start-based program. Talk to elan get a tour of the raptor 3 building process. That would be so cool.
"Gulp" LOL 😆
" They turn the impossible into late". Gold.
What will happen until april 20. 2025:
- IFT 9 will be the first flight with both vehicles recovered
- one failed landing will end in a epic fire ball at the launch site
- Date for the first Starship to leave earth orbit was anounced
=D i know... but we need to keep it optimistic
Bonus:
- one ship landing will give us live footage from floating debris that survied splashdown in the midle of the ocean
They should consider thinner but double layered tile application on the nose area. It’s a safe approach in 2 ways. And even potentially inner tile application. Although if the metal goes it’s gone. But the space between the nose nose tanks as well as the flaps is increasing the heat in this area. It’s gotta be kept down.
It has a good chance of actually orbiting in control and reentering as desired. Will it survive?
the booster, probably will execute the splash burn and land 'softish' on the waves.
Go Felix, go!
Hey Felix..regarding OLM legs taking damage and repairs..why couldn't SpaceX use and glue heat tiles to the legs to help protect the steel and concrete. Tho the pressure from those Rapters might be a problem...
I wish the best for SpaceX
but my guesses would be that in one year they will have been 3 flights - 2 of those they will only achieve one further step in their mission plan
and one will end too early due to engine failure
that had engine issues in all 3 flights - from the getgo, after seperation, before smashin in the ocean
they will most likely have also issues for the flip manouver and the hovering
Pull a wolfram net around Starship to hold heat tiles in place.
do we know if star factory will be all, starship production or will there be payload work done too?
Wonder if Thinner tiles but doubled up would work better?
Would it be possible the ship is shrinking because of the cool.
Im guessing the red adhesive is basically just standard hight temp rtv from the auto parts store
Instead of the sample return mission it would be easier, and a lit cheaper, to build a rover that is a laboratory and send that to Mars to analyse samples. If not a river a stationary unit that has helicopters to collect the samples for ut to process
Loving the 'new' 'acting' inserts in the videos Felix.
Very funny.
❤😂🎉 wish SpaceX great success 🙌
GO space X !!
Is there any updates on the lunar starship? I would like to see and know when that will be completed
Regarding Raptor engine improved thrust and specific impluse . What about replacing the turbine powered turbo pumps with turbine ramjet combo powered turbo pumps. Of course enlarge manifold, cases and tubings. In addition, use more titanium parts instead of stainless steel.
Just a thought.
By this time next year Starship will have had successful orbits; have perfected the chopstick capture of both booster and Starship; payload deliveries to orbit, and at least one shipo to ship fuel transfer trial.
I really believe they will catch the booster until the next anniversary!
Haven't moved those fuel tanks yet. That's a problem.
I think the different adessives were the colour difference in the under side of the tiles - testing what works best as NASA did
It's the "what?" following the acetylene torch party for me
Next time you do a re-cap, change t-shirts from IFT-1 to IFT-?