What is a loading coil?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 фев 2013
  • What a loading coil is, and how they are used to reduce the physical length of a resonant antenna.

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  • @StreuB1
    @StreuB1 8 лет назад +23

    Best description of a loading coil and impedance demonstration I have seen. Simple, hands on and too the point.

  • @JulietNovember9
    @JulietNovember9 2 года назад +2

    Great demonstration. Visual learner here. Thank you so much!

  • @wesley-wn8tv
    @wesley-wn8tv 2 месяца назад +1

    Getting into CB, im looking for all the info I can get, seeing as without a loading coil, CB antennas can be pretty huge. This has to be the best video i've seen describing it. short and to the point, no enigmatic terminology.

  • @thedmutz
    @thedmutz 4 года назад +5

    Excellent video. This live demo reinforced the concepts way more than anything folks have told me or that I've read. Great job, thanks!

  • @MaiekeiaR
    @MaiekeiaR 10 лет назад +13

    This should be a mandatory Lab Demo. Excellent video!

  • @Rainbient
    @Rainbient Месяц назад

    I officially understand loading coils. Thank you!🙏

  • @StrsAmbrg
    @StrsAmbrg 2 года назад

    You made me understand the concept of loading coil antenna.

  • @fredriko.zachrisson9711
    @fredriko.zachrisson9711 5 лет назад +2

    Really helpful demonstration for guy who are new to loading coils, and resonance in general.
    I will definently replicate this demo for my own kids in the future.
    Thumbs up. 👍🏻👌🏻

  • @citizenatlrge
    @citizenatlrge 4 года назад +2

    2020 coming back. Who's here for HAM questions like this? "Which of the following describes a type of antenna loading?"
    A.
    Inserting a resistor in the radiating portion of the antenna to make it resonant
    B.
    Strengthening the radiating elements of a beam antenna to better resist wind damage
    C.
    Inserting an inductor in the radiating portion of the antenna to make it electrically longer
    D.
    Installing a spring in the base of a mobile vertical antenna to make it more flexible
    Thanks a lot for this vid Carl. Really helped me to understand the what/why of it.

  • @chriscarter4100
    @chriscarter4100 4 года назад +1

    The best explanation I have ever seen on this subject - thank you sir.

  • @davidharvey1979
    @davidharvey1979 5 лет назад +3

    Wonderful video, Carl. Thank you so much for going to so much trouble. I wish I could have seen such useful instruction when I first got into the hobby, back in the 1970s. 73 de VK2DMH. PS: I love your test gear setup.

  • @ShopperPlug
    @ShopperPlug 2 года назад

    Excellent explanation... always saw ham radio guys using miles long copper cables as antennas but always wondered how the pros use portable antenna like loading coils and why they worked.

  • @douglasdreger3852
    @douglasdreger3852 5 лет назад

    Thank you for this excellent demonstration

  • @Justin-wd2vy
    @Justin-wd2vy 3 года назад

    Great demonstration.

  • @richardpena7952
    @richardpena7952 6 лет назад

    Excellent video for that us that need visuals with practical explanations.

  • @NerdOfftheRoad
    @NerdOfftheRoad 26 дней назад

    Great video! I just switched from 1m to 2m band and frustrate how to shorten my antenna. There will be a lot of metal pieces in my yard this weekend.

  • @Shaolin108
    @Shaolin108 10 лет назад +1

    great demonstration and explanation.

  • @thomthumbe
    @thomthumbe 6 лет назад +2

    Excellent demo! Looks like it was done years ago, but electricity doesn't change! :) It should also be said that when it comes to antennas, size matters! When you depart from an ideal, properly sized antenna per the frequency of operation to something that is shorter or more convenient for whatever reason, radio wave radiation efficiency goes down. Sometimes dramatically. Even tho the 'shortened' antenna may present a great load to the transmitter, it simply is not as good as is the antenna cut for the desired frequency of operation. But hey....maybe the shorter antenna does good enough by itself, or you could add more RF power from the transmitter to make up the difference. I'd say most antennas in use in the World in just about any use of RF are not a 'proper' length, so this lesson is perfect for reality!!

    • @jwnagy
      @jwnagy Год назад

      I agree completely. Nice demo.
      Jeff W3AAB

  • @RadioHamGuy
    @RadioHamGuy 5 лет назад

    Very nice demo, thanks!

  • @surgingcircuits6955
    @surgingcircuits6955 6 лет назад +5

    Agree with J Rhoades - "Just curious as to how long the shortened antenna ended up being after it was cut down compared to its original length."

  • @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE
    @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE 4 года назад

    Really nicely explained, thank-you.

  • @TheMinorFallsTheMajorLifts
    @TheMinorFallsTheMajorLifts 8 лет назад

    Very nice demo.

  • @jreina20
    @jreina20 2 года назад

    Awesome video

  • @newfaloof09
    @newfaloof09 11 лет назад

    great demonstration :)

  • @J0HN3
    @J0HN3 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video.

  • @AndyDaviesByTheSea
    @AndyDaviesByTheSea 4 года назад

    I'm amazed that in April 2020 this video has only had 244 'thumbs up' (245 including mine) That's with 20,592 viewings. You won't get a better demonstration of what a loading coil does for you. Give this guy credit for giving a practical and very clear example of a loading coil, give him the thumbs up that he deserves. Remember that the same theory works at all ham radio frequencies and like the guy says it's easier to cut it off than it is to put it back on. Thanks Carl, blooming good demo, well done!Kind Regards . . . Andy gw0jxm

  • @ch0vits
    @ch0vits 10 лет назад +1

    Thanks sir..nicely done:D

  • @1964cowdog
    @1964cowdog 8 лет назад

    very good video, thanks.

  • @g00glian0
    @g00glian0 3 года назад

    Excellent!

  • @turbinebass
    @turbinebass Год назад

    Perfect...Thanks a lot👍👍👍

  • @CircuitCreator
    @CircuitCreator 2 года назад

    WELL EXPLAINED

  • @zapoman
    @zapoman 6 лет назад

    very clear,thanks

  • @alaskanalain
    @alaskanalain 3 года назад

    "...I take my strait wire antennae..." Shows a terribly crooked wire, seems Canadian to me. Super video by the way.

  • @yerffejmurffy
    @yerffejmurffy 5 лет назад +2

    If you were to uncoil the loaded antenna after you cut for the correct resonate frequency. Would it be the same length as the straight antenna or would it be shorter?

  • @heestenhats
    @heestenhats 7 лет назад +4

    HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS
    The thing that gets me so confused, as a radiofanatic and radio geek since year 1998.
    I’ve ALWAYS been told: “Longer and bigger antennas, equals more range”.
    Don't people wanna have amazing very long range QSOs with people living miles and miles away from you, in places you never could imagine that you could possible to reach.
    Questions:
    1. Does the loading coil decrease or improve reception, transmission, range and clarity?.
    - Won't you actually lose reception/transmission range?, with a shorter coil loaded antenna? Compared to a straight antenna in the same frequency area. . I’ve ALWAYS been told “Bigger IS Better”.
    3. What will you actually gain from using a coil loaded antenna except a shorter antenna?.

    • @Mark300win
      @Mark300win 7 лет назад +4

      heestenhats imma answer this in simple way
      Longer antenna to match quarter or half or even full wavelength means more gain at resonant frequency (70cm, 2m, 6m, 10m, ... etc)
      Shorter with loading coil= resonant frequency at shorter length with less gain but it match the needed low swr needed to transmit safely for the tranceiver. This is usually used when long antennas isnt an option like for vehicle antennas ;) u r forced to load ur antenna
      Also note that longer antenna has wider bandwidth as compared to loaded antennas.
      Best solution: build the longest antenna u can host in ur yard, pair it with an antenna tuner( which is simply a bunch of loading coils and capacitors) to tune to whatever frequency u want and good gain (determined by optimal antenna length, and design "yagi, vertical ground plane, etc)) , and dont forget the most important point use the lowest loss cable between ur antenna and AT or HT!! This is a killer point i recommed lmr400 which is the best 73!

  • @1000000volts
    @1000000volts 5 лет назад

    Hi I have a 33 foot fibreglass pole and I want to make a 43 foot vertical wire antenna . if I wrap 43 foot of wire around the 33 foot pole will it be the same as a 43 foot straight wire antenna in resonance . Even though it is only 33 foot high . Thanks for the video I would apreciate a reply as nobody seems to know the answer hoping you do cheers.

  • @e75channel
    @e75channel 3 года назад

    I see, now I understand. Thank you.

  • @siddharth4662
    @siddharth4662 4 года назад

    wonderful!!! :-) thanks to you :-)

  • @bude8234
    @bude8234 6 лет назад +1

    It seemed the straight antenna had better performance than the coiled one as far as gain is concerned? Or do I misunderstand the units on the scope?

  • @hthring
    @hthring 3 года назад

    Id like to know which performs better ?

  • @flynnhelsing
    @flynnhelsing 10 лет назад +4

    Just curious as to how long the shortened antenna ended up being after it was cut down compared to its original length.

  • @bubayou
    @bubayou 5 лет назад

    What happens to the Q and the Gain of the Antenna when you add a loading coil to it ?

  • @My_Names_Not_Nigel
    @My_Names_Not_Nigel 9 лет назад +3

    If you straighten out the coil, will the two antennas be the same length again?

    • @Moronvideos1940
      @Moronvideos1940 9 лет назад

      +Nigel P. No. Coiled wire adds Inductive reactance. It is different for different diameter wires,....somewhat

    • @livelongandprosper70
      @livelongandprosper70 8 лет назад +1

      +Moronvideos1940 yes they would, more or less..

  • @julc6648
    @julc6648 9 лет назад

    Great video man! I would like to have enough money to buy the lab equipment to use it with my antennas :(

  • @nikkogutierrez5393
    @nikkogutierrez5393 7 лет назад

    Two questions. What is the diameter of the 6 coils you put on this. Secondly what was the length of each element that made this work? I don't have the test equipment to do this yet which is the reason I asked

  • @patel3c
    @patel3c 9 лет назад

    Return loss on the straight antenna at 150MHz than the antenna with a loading coil optimized for 150MHz. Is there anything you can do to compensate for that or is that just a tradeoff you have to live with?

    • @patel3c
      @patel3c 9 лет назад +4

      *Return loss on the straight antenna at 150MHz is much better than the antenna with the loading coil at 150MHz.

  • @superaprendendoacozinhar
    @superaprendendoacozinhar 3 года назад

    Continua a série de vídeos com outras bobinas de carga em cima do irradiante!

  • @jiangyi19850130
    @jiangyi19850130 3 года назад

    So having loading coil can make the mono-pole shorter but the trade-off is having lower gain because some of the capacitance is neutralized by the inductance of the coil?

  • @h.sapienstechnologicus8865
    @h.sapienstechnologicus8865 3 года назад

    Does loading affect bandwidth or any other aspect of antenna performance?

  • @paulkazjack
    @paulkazjack 4 года назад

    Do both antennas have the same gain?

  • @sshannon1948
    @sshannon1948 8 лет назад

    Could one also confirm the resonant freq with an inexpensive antenna analyzer by looking at what freq the reactive component of the impedance goes to zero?

    • @davidharvey1979
      @davidharvey1979 5 лет назад +1

      Impedence doesn't go to zero. It could be 50 Ohms, or less or more. Resonance is where the dip is... the lowest impedence. As long as it is less than around 2:1 (two to one) VSWR, the transmitter should be happy. Don't bust a gut trying to get a perfect 1:1; that's nice but not necessary. And the station you are talking to won't notice any difference!

  • @se2702
    @se2702 9 месяцев назад

    Why is the return loss of 18 db shown as a negative number? This is commonly done but return loss is always positive (unless the device is active). I think it might be reflection coefficient. Thanks! - Good video !!

  • @joes973
    @joes973 3 месяца назад

    What is the trade-off for making it shorter like this?

  • @livelongandprosper70
    @livelongandprosper70 8 лет назад +2

    yes but WHICH is more effective ??

    • @iain777uk
      @iain777uk 7 лет назад

      it would depend on the needs of the user and location and frequency used.

  • @KOAOutdoors
    @KOAOutdoors Год назад

    how do you determine the number of coils and the radius of them ?

  • @donalfinn4205
    @donalfinn4205 4 года назад

    But is the antenna with the loading coil as efficient?

  • @WogChilli
    @WogChilli Год назад

    Some question.
    1. Is the loading coil similar in function to a capacitance hat?
    2. What is the tradeoff for using a loading coil to achieve a smaller antenna compared to a straight antenna which has been cut/trimmed to resonance?
    3. Does loading an antenna increase gain? is is the loading coil which manipulates the gain? ie. most common UHF/VHF dual band antennas have some form of a coil and usually 3/6db gain.
    Thanks if anybody can answer.

  • @Thejohnnyoshow
    @Thejohnnyoshow 7 лет назад

    i what is the end called that you have on your magmount, i have an mno magmount and i want to just experiment with different length whips, the part i want to screw on to the magmount i dont want to be any kind of loading coil. but i need something that i can clam the whip into it like you see on a lot of the loading coils that come with the whips. but i dont know what its called and just cant seem to find something thats not a loading coil. i can find these all over the place www.protelecomsupply.com/larsen-144-174-nmo-loading-coil-black-nmo150bco but again i dont want it to be a loading coil i just want something that will let me mount the whip of what ever length i want to experiment with

  • @PerB_M
    @PerB_M 3 года назад

    How much bandwidth do you lose by having a loading coil? 73 Per HB9GIM

  • @nickc8819
    @nickc8819 8 лет назад +3

    So longer isn't always better?

    • @pudiful
      @pudiful 7 лет назад +1

      Yes longer is better, but when we don't have space (like me) we use dipoles with coils.

  • @boom92121
    @boom92121 9 месяцев назад

    Mihajlo Pupin ponos Srbije!

  • @DonHavjuan
    @DonHavjuan 3 года назад

    Now straighten the coil, and compare the two wires.

  • @johnguy1350
    @johnguy1350 6 лет назад

    It would be nice if you gave the length of the loading coil as if you had just straighten out in the first place., Antenna 1 is actually longer than antenna 2. At the end to two line actually might be the same length. Redo this test show the length of wires before you make the coil.

  • @PerB_M
    @PerB_M 3 года назад

    Another question, you must also be able to use loading coils on radials? You can always stick a vertical antenna up, but it's a pain with the radials and if you're on 3 sets, then it's a bigger problem. Can you use loading coils on radials? 1 coil per band? And how much does it matter in bandwidth. Thanks for the reply in advance

  • @kevyelyod1211
    @kevyelyod1211 4 года назад

    Now do the reverse with capacitive loading.

  • @clems6989
    @clems6989 4 года назад +1

    Now to go find all those little pieces of wire....

  • @iain777uk
    @iain777uk 7 лет назад

    what hasnt be mentioned is the effect on the radiation pattern.

  • @humaxf1
    @humaxf1 7 лет назад

    5 ***** demo

  • @dennisonicc
    @dennisonicc 5 лет назад

    This video does not explain how actually a loading coil works.