It's kind of amusing that none of the devs ever asked if it was silly to create a set that takes so long to stack that you've already killed everything by the time you get the buff.
They ask for feedback and then completely ignore all of it and say 'you'll like this better" ... Not in the slightest. This probably would've been 10x better with swapping Aces & 8s to a rifle set. People have only been asking for that since forever to make that particular set something other than materials. Still haven't fixed Hotshot... This goes on... I'm sure you know
@@SCarter02767 they never ask feedback, they just want you to bug test stuff for free. Last time they listen to feedback was in DIv1 when SPECTRE gearset was canceled.
It’s not a gear set/build I’ll use often but I put it together with Chainkiller, Fox Prayers and Ninabike BP with the Artist’s Tool and M1A with Rifleman, all stacked into headshot damage.
@DodRegnbue it actually makes the M16A2 AKA The whisper the best rifle in the game. I found this is what this whole set was built for. Two pieces of breakpoint and then everything else is the new z eagles grasp/grip set. It's hard all three shots count as a single shot and so instead of 10 to 12 shots you don't need four shots. And it hits bloody hard!!!! Stranger right 👍
Agreed on the Whisper M16, had a build with it and the decoy, and you're right, the stacks do stack after a couple bursts for me to reload quickly & finish off the next target and move on to the rest without leaving cover.
Give a smaller version of the bonus while you're stacking and its always active. Reloading while at max doubles the buff but only lasts 10 seconds, kills add 2 seconds back to the timer. There, i spent 10 seconds and made a better version.
The devs wanted our feedback because it makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside, they act like they want it and we think it will have a change in the game, we are all suckered for it
All they had to do is to make striker with less stacks, more damage and ergo buff, longer time for stacks to end. That`s the simpliest way to do it. But no. Not only devs are stupid enough to think what would be great, they ignored their playerbase`s feedback. GG
@DodRegnbue think he meant 1 gearset and 1 brandset. Perfect talent is bad too. Should have been perfect composure at 25% TWD or perfect concussion working with rifles and 15/20% TWD. Either would have shook up meta esp if they were chest talents.
Most newly released gear sets and branded gear is simply added for the purpose of increasing your expertise easily (e.g. through Powerplant grinds). That is the only good thing about it I suppose...
Oh yes. People just have a hard-on for NBB for no sane reason, aswell as mag size and ludicrous amounts of AOK. 33.901 mil with the 4 hotshot, 2 habs (headhunter+vigilance) on the 3rd shot - i can't stress this enough, on the 3rd shot when headhunter & hotshot is stacked, so you can get shot and lose vigilance and STILL 1 shot an Elite on 4 player legendary. The difference here is the breakpoints where you can START building fresh stacks. A red have 5.37M toyal hp, A veteran on 4 legendary has 14.80M total hp, an elite on 4 legendary have 25.21M. So with no stacks at all the NBB needs to start with a red, wheras a vigilance player can start with a purple -increasing the amount of valid targets. Then after the first shot the NBB is forced to choose a red or purple target before going for yellows, wheras the vigilance can go straight to yellow after the first shot. (Then you've got named on 4 heroic- 47.30M , gl with that one with NBB)
Ah nice! The take on this gearset that i've been waiting for, been fidling around with it the last couple of days but.... It just ends up as slightly less dmg-wise headhunter/determined build and i was trying to get away from those 2 talents... So is there no hope for this gearset then? Would have been awesome if this was rifle and pistol driven gearset instead... thnx for the video DoD! Keep up the good shit!
From what I have tested thus far, this seems to be dependant on Armoured Target vs Health Target. Either way, the overal performance difference is tiny, and both variants one shot pretty much everything, so on that side of things I would suggest Chainkiller due to easier farming.
i think it goes over the mag size for stacking +2 because of the plus one in the mag, and they want to have 1 more stack over the max mag size. if you look at every weapons mag size that can chamber a round then they did plus one. Did they also do plus 2 stacks on non chambered weapons??
But like lets talk about something, lets say u have a lightweight m4 with a 60 round mag (with lucky shot) and ur running the backpack. That’s supposed to be 360% more damage right? I still get more damage number when i run strikers at max with 200% stacks. So im thinking that the numbers on the gearset are bugged? Like it isnt actually giving 6% per shot i feel like. Or am i wrong?
Breaking point is giving 4 - 6% Weapon damage, same as a red core, so it will add to all other red cores, in terms of performance. Strikers gives 100 - 200% Amp which multiplies with them.
The last build you showed here, would you rather still suggest to run walker chainkiller, arialdi or providence vigilance backpack and 3 or 4 hotshot compared to this? You mentioned in another video you didnt think the 4 piece hotshot was the best in slot for hotshot, in that scenario what would you rather pick than the 4th hotshot for either a utility or damage piece? Im using mantis, never determined. Any benefit to forgo chainkiller and go for habsburg headhunter and unicorn habsburg vigilance backpack in that scenario? Or to rephrase the question whats the best in slot hotshot or headhunter build for marksman rifle now after the introduction of the new sets? :) I guess it sort of samey anyway with subtle differences. But what is best and for what scenarios and does it even matter at that point. I understand losing perfect headhunter if you go habsburg headhunter will have some consequences. You said you lose 2-3 percent damage to go with ninja version, but one could argue that its more stable since there is no vigilance there to lose by taking damage and gives additional blue and yellow. At the same time you would surprise me if you said the ninja version is now the best version :) One sometimes bring out an AR to deal with chungas or other stuff anyway and losing vigilance the secondary weapon then takes a hit in damage output.
4 piece Hotshot is completely reliant on Determined (showing my bias here) but 1) for me, and many others this is cheating, not in a ha ha way, but out right aim bot. 2) without determined 4 piece Hotshot falls apart. So the most stable damage you can get after that point is 3 Pieces Hotshot and Fox's. There is merit to 2 piece Habsburd, 3 Hotshot, but this requires unicorns that are hard to farm or craft. Though at this point, no matter what you do you are one shotting everything in the game anyway. The highest health enemies are around 22 mil EHP. So if you are hitting 40 mil, what is the harm in running a less optimal set up and hitting 36 mil? You still one shot everything. Chain killer is just so much easier to acquire.
Also you can stack Sawyers and vigilance outside of sets all together and still have the damage to crack a chunga faceplate with mantis so... depends on your use case. Solo heroic boils down to what you are aiming at with your first shot to start headhunter and hitting that hp threshold.
@@DodRegnbue Wow thank you for for responding to thiis this sh8. its no bias m8, determined is absolute nub fucking shite. So called determined snipers will cry when its taken away from them c4nts. Truth.
@@DodRegnbue thx for reply. I can hit 3-4 headshots in a row or more even on console (ps5) with mantis on a good day but I mained sniper for like 3k hours in pve in div 2 and same in div1. So its second nature. I tried determined but every time it slows med down compared to mantis at this point. Its pointless to learn playing determined as its a major nerf and messes up the progression as a player as determined wont be in other games and most probably not (I hope) in div 3. I hated deadeye as well for similar reasons. I was playing headshot sniper on div 1 and even nomad 2 tap sniper build on div 1. In my opinion everyone who plays determined right now is only messing up their future skill when its gone and nerfed. Div 1 was very hard on console but it was more spamming aim assist compared to div 2 and ps4 at that time was rubbish as well. ps5 is a different game. ruclips.net/video/Ndb2eKqggUo/видео.html
near the same. There will be a minute difference in damage on Health vs Armour. But it will get the job done regardless. The only reason I suggest Chain killer is that it is considerably easier to farm.
Yes it screams "designed on a spreadsheet and tested at the shooting range". More evidence devs don't play and are ignorant about the realities within it (lol grenades and melee triggers).
I’ve been utilising NBBB on a headshot build for a while now. 1 Habsburg 1 Providence (chest with headhunter) 2 Hotshot 1 Airaldi Giving me 346 HSD and 90 MMR Maybe I’ll swap the Airaldi for a Breaking Point EDIT: Swapping Airaldi to BP dropped me 15% HSD but gained 25% MMR. Dmg, on full HH went from 26,546,640 to 27,596,144 Just under a 1.05m increase. Not too shabby but pointless with these numbers already so high.
So if you swap the BreakPoint Mask and the Hadsburg Knees for each other slot, youll get 1 more attribute slot. I checked to see if you mentioned it but you didnt and noone commented on it either.
Ya 4p hotshot gets the job done with more utility even without a damage talent on the pack. But it's less of a delta now and maybe you want some skill tiers?
Really want to shit yourself. Try building it like the baby brother to the Determined/Headhunter MMR build. Use 2pc new brand set, Foxes, chain killer, the gift and 1pc Habs. 10-12 mil per shot at full stack it an M1A and 20-23 mil per shot with 1886.
@@DodRegnbue in what direction to make it more about individual damage or more team buffing , True Patriot is something id like to see reworked just like Aces but whats the point as you say the devs dont listen and will we get to use them as we grind the same content with the most dumbass thing theyve ever come out with - Seasonals ,total shit weasels for not doing another incursion too best content since game introduced . Devs must really Hate the "rest of world " non Chinese players
Hey dod, can you help me with a raid or at least give me a link to your discord, the one in the videos and channel are not working I'm a bug fan of your videos, thank you for everything
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It's kind of amusing that none of the devs ever asked if it was silly to create a set that takes so long to stack that you've already killed everything by the time you get the buff.
They ask for feedback and then completely ignore all of it and say 'you'll like this better"
... Not in the slightest. This probably would've been 10x better with swapping Aces & 8s to a rifle set. People have only been asking for that since forever to make that particular set something other than materials. Still haven't fixed Hotshot... This goes on... I'm sure you know
@@SCarter02767 they never ask feedback, they just want you to bug test stuff for free. Last time they listen to feedback was in DIv1 when SPECTRE gearset was canceled.
On one hand it’s nice to have a rifle set that’s fun for roaming around the map with, but I wouldn’t take it into anything beyond solo heroic.
It’s not a gear set/build I’ll use often but I put it together with Chainkiller, Fox Prayers and Ninabike BP with the Artist’s Tool and M1A with Rifleman, all stacked into headshot damage.
@DodRegnbue it actually makes the M16A2 AKA The whisper the best rifle in the game. I found this is what this whole set was built for. Two pieces of breakpoint and then everything else is the new z eagles grasp/grip set. It's hard all three shots count as a single shot and so instead of 10 to 12 shots you don't need four shots. And it hits bloody hard!!!! Stranger right 👍
Agreed on the Whisper M16, had a build with it and the decoy, and you're right, the stacks do stack after a couple bursts for me to reload quickly & finish off the next target and move on to the rest without leaving cover.
No 1 source for solid information and unfiltered truth.
I'm not even saving the set. I'm not risking Carpal Tunnel for this crap.
Rifles do not hit hard enough and like you said no one is going to risk physical damage playing a game.
Give a smaller version of the bonus while you're stacking and its always active. Reloading while at max doubles the buff but only lasts 10 seconds, kills add 2 seconds back to the timer.
There, i spent 10 seconds and made a better version.
interesting idea. Though I would be interested in seeing how you plan to balance this with Ravenous.
@@DodRegnbue you can't balance shit with the ravenous 😂, unless you just remove all of the damage it's just going to be "The ravenous"
The devs wanted our feedback because it makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside, they act like they want it and we think it will have a change in the game, we are all suckered for it
All they had to do is to make striker with less stacks, more damage and ergo buff, longer time for stacks to end. That`s the simpliest way to do it. But no. Not only devs are stupid enough to think what would be great, they ignored their playerbase`s feedback. GG
so we get two rifle sets and no new named rifles.... we get two shotguns?(with the same talent)
One rifle set.
@DodRegnbue think he meant 1 gearset and 1 brandset.
Perfect talent is bad too.
Should have been perfect composure at 25% TWD or perfect concussion working with rifles and 15/20% TWD. Either would have shook up meta esp if they were chest talents.
Most newly released gear sets and branded gear is simply added for the purpose of increasing your expertise easily (e.g. through Powerplant grinds). That is the only good thing about it I suppose...
So the 4 hotshot 2 habsburg headshot, headhunter and vigilance is still stronger than the nbb build right?
Oh yes.
People just have a hard-on for NBB for no sane reason, aswell as mag size and ludicrous amounts of AOK.
33.901 mil with the 4 hotshot, 2 habs (headhunter+vigilance) on the 3rd shot - i can't stress this enough, on the 3rd shot when headhunter & hotshot is stacked, so you can get shot and lose vigilance and STILL 1 shot an Elite on 4 player legendary. The difference here is the breakpoints where you can START building fresh stacks. A red have 5.37M toyal hp, A veteran on 4 legendary has 14.80M total hp, an elite on 4 legendary have 25.21M. So with no stacks at all the NBB needs to start with a red, wheras a vigilance player can start with a purple -increasing the amount of valid targets.
Then after the first shot the NBB is forced to choose a red or purple target before going for yellows, wheras the vigilance can go straight to yellow after the first shot.
(Then you've got named on 4 heroic- 47.30M , gl with that one with NBB)
@@Fiffelito I thought so. 4 hotshot and 2 pc habsburg still has to be the strongest in the game. Pair it with a model 700 or sr-1.
Ah nice! The take on this gearset that i've been waiting for, been fidling around with it the last couple of days but.... It just ends up as slightly less dmg-wise headhunter/determined build and i was trying to get away from those 2 talents... So is there no hope for this gearset then? Would have been awesome if this was rifle and pistol driven gearset instead... thnx for the video DoD! Keep up the good shit!
Perfect use case for other new Zeva brandset one piece gives 15% magazine so you get that 12rounds.
But is it 1p chainkiller, nbbp, 1p BRP, 1p hot, 1p Habs, 1p aces, or is Airaldi better instead of aces... ;)
From what I have tested thus far, this seems to be dependant on Armoured Target vs Health Target.
Either way, the overal performance difference is tiny, and both variants one shot pretty much everything, so on that side of things I would suggest Chainkiller due to easier farming.
The name of the new dlc. Breaking point.
Nice idea for that build. What if you switch out the Aces&8 piece to bring in Punch Drunk? (to get the stability for IH)
Due to how Head hunter Scales (mostly off of weapon damage), I would not reccomend.
i think it goes over the mag size for stacking +2 because of the plus one in the mag, and they want to have 1 more stack over the max mag size. if you look at every weapons mag size that can chamber a round then they did plus one. Did they also do plus 2 stacks on non chambered weapons??
It changes per weapon. I managed to get 66 stacks on Ravenous.
But like lets talk about something, lets say u have a lightweight m4 with a 60 round mag (with lucky shot) and ur running the backpack. That’s supposed to be 360% more damage right? I still get more damage number when i run strikers at max with 200% stacks. So im thinking that the numbers on the gearset are bugged? Like it isnt actually giving 6% per shot i feel like. Or am i wrong?
Breaking point is giving 4 - 6% Weapon damage, same as a red core, so it will add to all other red cores, in terms of performance.
Strikers gives 100 - 200% Amp which multiplies with them.
@@DodRegnbue ahh i see, thanks for clarifying bro. Best division YT channel for sure.
The last build you showed here, would you rather still suggest to run walker chainkiller, arialdi or providence vigilance backpack and 3 or 4 hotshot compared to this? You mentioned in another video you didnt think the 4 piece hotshot was the best in slot for hotshot, in that scenario what would you rather pick than the 4th hotshot for either a utility or damage piece? Im using mantis, never determined. Any benefit to forgo chainkiller and go for habsburg headhunter and unicorn habsburg vigilance backpack in that scenario? Or to rephrase the question whats the best in slot hotshot or headhunter build for marksman rifle now after the introduction of the new sets? :) I guess it sort of samey anyway with subtle differences. But what is best and for what scenarios and does it even matter at that point. I understand losing perfect headhunter if you go habsburg headhunter will have some consequences. You said you lose 2-3 percent damage to go with ninja version, but one could argue that its more stable since there is no vigilance there to lose by taking damage and gives additional blue and yellow. At the same time you would surprise me if you said the ninja version is now the best version :) One sometimes bring out an AR to deal with chungas or other stuff anyway and losing vigilance the secondary weapon then takes a hit in damage output.
4 piece Hotshot is completely reliant on Determined (showing my bias here) but 1) for me, and many others this is cheating, not in a ha ha way, but out right aim bot. 2) without determined 4 piece Hotshot falls apart. So the most stable damage you can get after that point is 3 Pieces Hotshot and Fox's.
There is merit to 2 piece Habsburd, 3 Hotshot, but this requires unicorns that are hard to farm or craft. Though at this point, no matter what you do you are one shotting everything in the game anyway. The highest health enemies are around 22 mil EHP. So if you are hitting 40 mil, what is the harm in running a less optimal set up and hitting 36 mil? You still one shot everything. Chain killer is just so much easier to acquire.
Also you can stack Sawyers and vigilance outside of sets all together and still have the damage to crack a chunga faceplate with mantis so... depends on your use case.
Solo heroic boils down to what you are aiming at with your first shot to start headhunter and hitting that hp threshold.
@@DodRegnbue Wow thank you for for responding to thiis this sh8. its no bias m8, determined is absolute nub fucking shite. So called determined snipers will cry when its taken away from them c4nts. Truth.
@@DodRegnbue thx for reply. I can hit 3-4 headshots in a row or more even on console (ps5) with mantis on a good day but I mained sniper for like 3k hours in pve in div 2 and same in div1. So its second nature. I tried determined but every time it slows med down compared to mantis at this point. Its pointless to learn playing determined as its a major nerf and messes up the progression as a player as determined wont be in other games and most probably not (I hope) in div 3. I hated deadeye as well for similar reasons. I was playing headshot sniper on div 1 and even nomad 2 tap sniper build on div 1. In my opinion everyone who plays determined right now is only messing up their future skill when its gone and nerfed. Div 1 was very hard on console but it was more spamming aim assist compared to div 2 and ps4 at that time was rubbish as well. ps5 is a different game. ruclips.net/video/Ndb2eKqggUo/видео.html
@@grumpyoldman6503 Thx for you reply sir.
For the Ninja build, wouldn't using an Airaldi instead of the Aces be better?
Airaldi over Chainkiller is an option.
This guy is like that Asian kid in math class that be kool and helping people out hahahahaha.
What if you change Walker with Airaldi in sniper build with Ninja BP? How it gonna be?
near the same. There will be a minute difference in damage on Health vs Armour. But it will get the job done regardless. The only reason I suggest Chain killer is that it is considerably easier to farm.
Don't forget to like the video, Dod needs his shmeckles
If any of the devs had tried even once to play test the set they'd have realized it's worthless
Yes it screams "designed on a spreadsheet and tested at the shooting range".
More evidence devs don't play and are ignorant about the realities within it (lol grenades and melee triggers).
I’ve been utilising NBBB on a headshot build for a while now.
1 Habsburg
1 Providence (chest with headhunter)
2 Hotshot
1 Airaldi
Giving me 346 HSD and 90 MMR
Maybe I’ll swap the Airaldi for a Breaking Point
EDIT:
Swapping Airaldi to BP dropped me 15% HSD but gained 25% MMR.
Dmg, on full HH went from 26,546,640 to 27,596,144
Just under a 1.05m increase.
Not too shabby but pointless with these numbers already so high.
I get 1-4 Mil dmg but then my friend got it also.. I get boosted to 14 mil + ( diamondback ) super weird.
So if you swap the BreakPoint Mask and the Hadsburg Knees for each other slot, youll get 1 more attribute slot. I checked to see if you mentioned it but you didnt and noone commented on it either.
The good thing about this set...
I got some expertise out of it /shrug
Salute mate
1 chest airaldi talent headhunter , 1 as, 1 hasbourg, 1 hotshoot, 1 breacking point and ninjaback ? 🤣 i prefere 4 hotshoot and 2 hasbourg , . nice video 😇
Ya 4p hotshot gets the job done with more utility even without a damage talent on the pack.
But it's less of a delta now and maybe you want some skill tiers?
Really want to shit yourself. Try building it like the baby brother to the Determined/Headhunter MMR build. Use 2pc new brand set, Foxes, chain killer, the gift and 1pc Habs. 10-12 mil per shot at full stack it an M1A and 20-23 mil per shot with 1886.
We do not use Determined over here.
This video needs to be packaged nicely and sent it to the devs
Numero uno. You and my comment
Well hey, at least we got new armor and gear cosmetics out of this lmao
All they achieved with all those useless sets is to wash out and take up space on the Target Loot Rotation for the open world.
At this point they should just call the game headhunter determined 2. God I hate these devs 😂😂😂
Seasons 2.0 - Season Modifier Active - Only receive XP up to lvl40 whilst using Breaking Point....yeay 🙄😂
Fook all these new thangs , rework ongoing directive and gimme a damn exotic f2000 or famas .
Ongoing Directive 100% needs a rework.
@@DodRegnbue in what direction to make it more about individual damage or more team buffing , True Patriot is something id like to see reworked just like Aces but whats the point as you say the devs dont listen and will we get to use them as we grind the same content with the most dumbass thing theyve ever come out with - Seasonals ,total shit weasels for not doing another incursion too best content since game introduced .
Devs must really Hate the "rest of world " non Chinese players
Just stop playing the game at this point.
tbh, striker exists...
why the fuck even bother...
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome . . .
Also doesn't break your trigger finger.
Hey dod, can you help me with a raid or at least give me a link to your discord, the one in the videos and channel are not working
I'm a bug fan of your videos, thank you for everything