HW. You are a super goofy character. I lol to myself every time I see a snapshot of your vids. However, you are intelligent, have a great ear and are able to communicate sound verbally which is a treat. Keep up the great work dude.
I think the only difference I hear is the 15" vs the 12". Just like you explained. I'm sure there are other adjustments you could make if you wanted to make them exactly the same but that's not the point. For all practical purposes I don't think they are any more different than comparing 2 Vibroverbs.Very informative and this should answer any questions a potential Kemper Kab buyer would want. I really learn a lot from your channel. Thanks from Vegas
Thanks a million HW. I just bought your Black Friday special using the discount code on the Everything Pack and it is incredible! $130.00 is a bargain for all I got and i am forever grateful! Absolutely AMAZING !!!!!! 🎸👍
Thanks for doing this. I prefer the sound of the Fender, to me it has some magical lower mids. I found the same when comparing a 65 DRRI with a Yamaha modeller in the room. As you say, you might be able to tweak it and get closer. For me the point is that with a stage and powered cab, you have a great Fender clean sound plus about a million other sounds, on tap, consistently, anywhere you go and with way more portability.
Tone difference or similarities aside, the one thing that always instantly stands out in an AB test (after some listening practice), is the difference in dynamics. Had a kemper, SOLD it. Nothing beats the dynamics you get from a tube amp and a mic. Only thing that comes close, but still not there, is that OX you’ve got.
I did not sell the kemper, for the mbritt and tonejunkies pack that i paid. But I only play my tubes amps on my boss tube expander or my OX (the best of all for recording), because of dynamics as you said. We made our amp with a friend it’s a 1-3 watts all tube, this small amp kills the my kemper, my helix on dynamics and thru the OX in a computer you have sound, dynamic, air and rooooom ! Welcome to OX into the world, I could not live without now.
I have mine still it needs a pedal as does the helix to help it with sound and feel. I’m using it only thru a regular guitar cabinet. I love my amps and a great pedal. Just distortion, overdrive or fuzz that’s it. Maybe compressor for funk once in awhile. No pedalboard. Amps great enough. Don’t like modulation effects that’s just me. Not every amp feels and sounds good same with pedals. . I like a softer, springy, bouncy feel. No stiff stiff for me. The Kemper and helix and others take too much tweaking. Not enough playing. The best modeler which is overlooked bf $800 with power and a double modeler is the Yamaha100hd. Sounds and feels great plug in and play.
@@Utube-g3g Dan from thatpedalshow also raves about those Yamaha amps, the desktop ones with built in speakers. Must check them out, thanks! Sounds like you prefer cathode biased amps for the spongy feel, like me and my tweed deluxe :)
Excellent job, HW! I really appreciate your videos, they are very educational. You are an excellent guitarist, buddy! Had no clue you are 6' 2". Love the hair, wish I had some. 🙂
For me, the kemper has profiled the amp, much much much more louder a point to drive the power, so louder amps get compress, sounded so good! The two amps sounds incredible
@@denverwilliams22 Already have a bunch of "Tone Junkie" profiles homey... they are good but I'm talk'n live applications.. A lot of modelers sound good at low to moderate volume levels but more often than not the tone falls apart when cranked at realistic live gig levels. the tone gets harsh and shrill, by contrast Real tube amps tend to sound better the louder you crank them.. So I was interested in what H. W. used in a live situation. I bought the non- powered Kemper Kab and it's ok at moderate volumes but fair when cranked...
@@Avatar7x7 Tweak at stage volume. Go into a rehearsal room and get it down. Ideally bring in a bass player and drummer to help you get sorted. I use a combo of M Britt and Tone Junkie Profiles to build performances. I use the pure boost post amp to add 3db for solo boosts automatically on in positions 4 & 5 within performances. Halve your gain and halve the wetness of your delays. In fact get a good tone sans fx first and foremost. You must tweak at stage volume.
Great content, comparison and tone HW! I think the Kemper is a great tool indeed. However, I would like mention the information you give around 03:45 is not really accurate since for the same amplitude a high frequency wave will have actually more energy than the lower frequency wave. The reason behind lower frequency waves' capability to propogate further is because they get absorbed less by the objects encountered.
That was a fun video. Enjoyed ghe playing and conversation.You brought up plenty of interesting points. Im new to Kemper, i just bought a power rack and plan on using it with my plethera of 4x12 cabs. Problem is I know zero about the settings in the Kemper. Damn it.
Run my Kemper Stage into a RCF NX 12-SMA power monitor. It was for sure an investment but I'm glad I did. Because this is a high end powered monitor and my Kemper is dialed in it directly relates better to FOH. I take it with me to all gigs ( I like the monitor format so it's sound coming right at me) and it's just my Kemper Stage and the monitor. The RCF HD 10-A is also a nice far cheaper choice (which I have used before making the jump to the NX series). Again for me dialing in my sound to a normal stage monitor has worked out far better as it relates to exactly what I want for my FOH sound with less EQ adjustments for the sound engineer.
The high frequency from a speaker doesn’t come from the center of the cone. HF emanates from all parts of the cone. Indeed that’s the whole reason why the HF directivity is narrow, since the surface producing the HF is much greater than the wavelength. There are several other acoustics myths being presented in the video, addressing one that’s popular among guitarists. Hope it’s interesting to learn ;)
Great video! sometimes I would look away and was amazed you had switched from the Fender to your Kemper. I think like you mentioned if it's this close in tone who would really notice and you can have a whole gig 's worth of great amps in your Kemper instead of darggining that 1 Fender around.
I have a Boss Katana. Ever since I bought a PA for my music room to play electric drums to, I've just used the line-out of my Katana trough my mixer to my PA. I think it sounds better than the Katana. The Katana is on a table over top of the PA. Both are pointed straight out (not upwards at all). Could it be that from further away the Katana would sound better? My room isn't big enough to be 10 feet away.
To get even closer could you make an IR in the room to match the EQ of the Kemper to the amp? Surely those small EQ difference could be matched that way… do you think something like that would work? I know you can do that sort of thing to tune studio monitors to a room to make them sound more true to the original sound, I thought the same idea could possibly work…
Awesome vid as usual. Thanks for all the profiling and the nerding out you do to make the kemper amazing for everyone. I haven’t picked up the 64vibroverb pack yet but I think this convinced me to get it.
Love it! Interesting, I need to take my 64' custom virboverb out and compare them in my room. Tbh the verb is a bit loud for me in my room so I am in no hurry lol. Owning the stage and not knowing when powered cab was coming out I made a kemper kone custom cabinet as a project (using tc electronics 200w class D bass amp flat for power). It sounds great and is a nice break from studio monitors. Running both monitors and a cab in the room is the bees knees. Thanks for the video.
05:13 You mention standing 10 - 12 feet away from speaker box.... But did you notice that if you do stand 12 feet away, then run the guitar through a series of effects pedals at your feet, then return to the amp, then that is a distance of at least 20 feet. You are getting into the capacitance issues distance then, if you have a guitar loaded with passive pickups and no buffers along the way.
Hmmm - well, the signal to the speaker gets there via balanced XLR, at least in my 'profiler-mixing desk-HRHR monitor' setup. You could easily stand 50 feet away and not run into problems.
@@TheGrandmaMoses True, but I was looking at the conundrum of properly hearing a speaker box not a Profiler rig. If you have a setup consisting of guitar-pedals-amp and to hear all that properly you have to stand 12 feet away, that turns into at least 24 ft of cable to and from, let alone the patch cables between pedals. If you do not have any buffer in circuit, if you only use passive pickups in the guitar, if you don't use any balanced line, that length of cabling will cause capacitance degradation of the signal.
@@OzziePete1 I really do not think that HW wanted to express that that is the 'proper' way to do it, as in 'the best sounding way to a human ear'. In fact, I think he wanted to express quite the opposite, as in '12 feet away will give the sound the least room interaction'. And room interaction would be what we as guitarists want for that amp-in-a-room sound most of us consider pleasant. Let me elaborate: All he said was that, in my understanding, unless around 12 feet away, some of your upper midrange and highrange comes to your ears via bouncing off the room. This, according to him, is what creates the pleasant 'amp-in-a-room' tone and experience. It's not just the amp, it's the room that is a big part of that amp-in-the-room sound. And he did that little excursion bascially just to explain his microphone setup and why he chose to do it the way he did with his room mic. The way I understood it is that at this range, since all of your frequencies have the space to reach the room mic directly fom the speaker cone without bouncing from anywhere, it would be the best place to compare two amp sounds with each other as the room has the least effect on the tone there. He did not, in my opinion, say that the best tone is found at that range - it just makes for the best comparability as the room is somewhat taken away or scaled back from the sound 'picture' at that position. In short: At 12 feet, you get the most 'amp' sound with the least 'room' sound added in - which is ideal for comparing amp tones. He even mentioned that 'we guitarists don't do that' in terms of the positioning - which in his words is the reason why we experience that amp-in-a-room sound in the first place. We all position ourselves in a normal setting so that a lot of frequencies that hit us are reflected unto us from somewhere, which is what brings that pleasant feeling and coincidentally explains why it always feels thin and underwhelming to go open-air. So to him, it's not 'the air moving' that creates that feeling as some people repeatedly claim. Which makes sense, my 12'' FRFR moves as much air as a 12'' Fender on the same volume, obviously. Sorry for my long take on what I think was said in the video, that's just how I got it. Other than that, you are completely right, if you go over a certain distance ( in metric countries we go with around 20 metres ), your signal will suffer. The easiest solution I can think of, if you want to get that 12 feet distance which, as explained above, may not even be desirable, would be to put a D.I. box at the end of your pedalboard and turn your signal into a balanced one. I don't think that's a complicated or expensive solution to the problem - on the contrary. Other than converting your signal, I wouldn't know the first thing to do to tackle that problem, I never thought about buffering in my chain, I always went balanced as early in my signal chain as possible and didn't have problems since. Last thing, don't forget that by going to 12 yards you'd do nothing for the people actually listening to your music, all you'd achieve is eventually get a better or at least different monitor sound for yourself on stage, which is really the only place where it matters as in my experience it's rather hard to get to 20m of cable length in a 'room' that's not a studio or a church. And nothing out of all of this matters if you use a tilted FRFR or monitor speaker which delivers every frequency to your ears within like three yards anyway as the speaker cone is more or less directly pointed at you. Have a nice day!
just downloaded several packs from the website next to other ones(...britt, etc) but have to say these are standing out loud and clear, just for you to know. so TJ profiles my favs at the moment. also led me to re appreciate my kemper again and as in another video you mentioned they are all doing more or less the same good job, i now decided to keep it and not trade in for the tonex or other. greetings from amsterdam and keep up the good work,oh and i woudlnt mind a new pack of alternative sounds such as by Johnny Marr, Vini Reilly, John Mcgeogh ao !
Hi HW, thank you for this. Maybe I don’t catched this, do you use FRFR mode or do you use an Kemper cab imprint? For me all profiles sound better if I use imprints instead FRFR mode. Also your 64 vibroberb profiles. Makes this sense? And do you have a favourite imprint for general continuous sound and live usage?
But why a tube amp must have to sound better? I think we are only used to the tube sound. But in the end it doesn't matter where the sound is coming from. And in a band mix you won't ever hear the difference, when the sound difference is so subtle for it alone.
Vibro has this natural mid frequency that Kemper in this situation I think lacks. Is bit quieter as well. Theres no punch that Vibro has. But that might be cause Vibro is bit louder.
Youre right!! I'm tired of rambling guitar player know it alls! I got a Kemper and it's all I need for the rest of my life. If I cant get it done with this, I can't get it done!!
The Kemper Cab sounds a bit harsh.. I just got one, and really am struggling..Though it has something more "air moving" about it, it has a weird phasey harshness going on that I can't quite figure out..I'm also not an FRFR guy...Hinestly, I thought my powered monitor sounded better. My other profiles are all done using V30 speaker types, so I just use a 112 V30 and recto cab (..turning cab off) and it works great...whereas the V30 profile did not deliver for hi-gain and modern hi-gain...I already have too much to choose from in world of Kemper...Just my experience...I think you've made it sound the best. : )
DO you still have the Kab? I just ordered I used one, and I have 45 days to return it if I do not like it. DO you turn the Cabinet button off when using the Kab? I always leave it on when using headphones or with studio monitors, but when I played it through a Boss Katana (power amp in on the back) it sounded way better with Cabinet button off. It looks as though he's leaving the Cabinet button on on this video. Sorry I am very new to kemper!
Halleluja! For years I’ve been filtering TGP and other internet community content sources with all this in mind. Folks talking about the variance i different amp X revision’s low/mid/high/super-high presence should twist their neck 15 degrees before commenting. ;)
I am in fact 6 foot 2 inches. It's funny because everytime I meet people in person at Namm or wherever, they always comment that I am taller in person. I'm not sure if its how I film myself or what but everyone says I don't look very tall in my videos. I dunno, maybe its the angle.
The kemper sounds good but eyes closed and in my studio monitors, but this overproduced sound is, and I don’t like to say that, to clean. Something is missing. Don’t put the kemper behind and amp and its going to sound really good
I thought the Fender sounded much warmer, but the cab speaker difference does make sense. My real interest is how to get great recordings from the Kemper; either by mic or by directly into an interface. Let’s get that discussion content going, please.
A friend of mine is a well known producer and I had a talk with him the other day about this subject. He noticed more and more guitarists bringing in a Kemper instead of analog gear lately. So he tried to shake things up a little and record the Kemper with direct out ànd with mic’s in front of a cab. In the end, he did not use the mic’s because the Kemper output was so much better and it was useless to mix in the mic sounds. Off course you can experiment with this but he was blown away about the direct out sound and pretty meh about the mic’ed up cab.
Guitar players have no idea what they're talking about? Actually, some do. If you'd rather have that thin harsh high end Kemper Kab tone at 12:17 rather than the smooth highs of the real amp at 11:46 on the bridge PU, then yes, you're just another guitarist who can't tell the difference between jagged edge sine wave class D tone from a true class A or B tube amp. Pretty obvious, even thru YT and headphones.
Everything you hear through youtube is digital so the difference between the two is minimal. However, if you compare a Kemper and a real amp in your room or in a small club, an amp sounds waaaay better! I have a kemper and it is a great tool for digital recordings or for playing through digital PAs -> it’s where the analog sound looses it’s sence. If the modern PA’s were analog, evety tube amp would blow kemper away….
I think so. You have to pick an amp though. I bought it to play on headphones in my condo. I can have my computer playing back any music i like and crank up the jam at 3am and no one hears it. So far it is the best non amp option I have heard. However $$$ so there's that. Helix is as good some would argue. The Kemper does so much it's almost overwhelming for people like me who just want to turn on the unit and have great sounds. I just learned about ducking my fx today. So many things I dont know yet. If I had a house I would probably buy the new Paul Reed Smith amps. I found my three sounds in under two minutes. Boom. Best clean sound ever. The amp I tried doesnt have a footswitch though. air thought that was a massive ball drop. I digress.
I like your channel found you on jhs pedal show!I'm trying to figure out if the Kemper is worth buying and getting rid of a ton of heavy old stuff!what do you think of positive grid high end stuff compared?
HW. You are a super goofy character. I lol to myself every time I see a snapshot of your vids. However, you are intelligent, have a great ear and are able to communicate sound verbally which is a treat. Keep up the great work dude.
I think the only difference I hear is the 15" vs the 12". Just like you explained. I'm sure there are other adjustments you could make if you wanted to make them exactly the same but that's not the point. For all practical purposes I don't think they are any more different than comparing 2 Vibroverbs.Very informative and this should answer any questions a potential Kemper Kab buyer would want.
I really learn a lot from your channel.
Thanks from Vegas
You're Welcome Dude! Thanks for the support!
Kemper seemed to have more gain, but they are very very close
Thanks a million HW. I just bought your Black Friday special using the discount code on the Everything Pack and it is incredible! $130.00 is a bargain for all I got and i am forever grateful! Absolutely AMAZING !!!!!! 🎸👍
I'm so glad your channel exists sir ! Helping me understand kemper before i Pull the trigger! Thank you
The kemper sounded more like a deluxe reverb to me, which is probably cause I'm used to hearing one through a 12" speaker. Sounded great nonetheless.
Thank you for the video. It is incredibly educational and much appreciated.
Thanks for doing this. I prefer the sound of the Fender, to me it has some magical lower mids. I found the same when comparing a 65 DRRI with a Yamaha modeller in the room. As you say, you might be able to tweak it and get closer.
For me the point is that with a stage and powered cab, you have a great Fender clean sound plus about a million other sounds, on tap, consistently, anywhere you go and with way more portability.
I too vastly prefer the Vibroverb as the Kemper sounds a bit scooped and glassy to me. Both sound good though.
They really don’t sound that close to me, and I like my Kemper. Thanks for doing that comparison!
12” vs 15” speaker. Different cab.
Tone difference or similarities aside, the one thing that always instantly stands out in an AB test (after some listening practice), is the difference in dynamics. Had a kemper, SOLD it. Nothing beats the dynamics you get from a tube amp and a mic. Only thing that comes close, but still not there, is that OX you’ve got.
I did not sell the kemper, for the mbritt and tonejunkies pack that i paid. But I only play my tubes amps on my boss tube expander or my OX (the best of all for recording), because of dynamics as you said. We made our amp with a friend it’s a 1-3 watts all tube, this small amp kills the my kemper, my helix on dynamics and thru the OX in a computer you have sound, dynamic, air and rooooom ! Welcome to OX into the world, I could not live without now.
I have mine still it needs a pedal as does the helix to help it with sound and feel. I’m using it only thru a regular guitar cabinet. I love my amps and a great pedal. Just distortion, overdrive or fuzz that’s it. Maybe compressor for funk once in awhile. No pedalboard. Amps great enough. Don’t like modulation effects that’s just me. Not every amp feels and sounds good same with pedals. . I like a softer, springy, bouncy feel. No stiff stiff for me. The Kemper and helix and others take too much tweaking. Not enough playing. The best modeler which is overlooked bf $800 with power and a double modeler is the Yamaha100hd. Sounds and feels great plug in and play.
@@Utube-g3g Dan from thatpedalshow also raves about those Yamaha amps, the desktop ones with built in speakers. Must check them out, thanks! Sounds like you prefer cathode biased amps for the spongy feel, like me and my tweed deluxe :)
Excellent job, HW! I really appreciate your videos, they are very educational. You are an excellent guitarist, buddy! Had no clue you are 6' 2". Love the hair, wish I had some. 🙂
Thank You Professor!!
For me, the kemper has profiled the amp, much much much more louder a point to drive the power, so louder amps get compress, sounded so good! The two amps sounds incredible
The Kemper sounds great in this demo.. the question is How do I get my Kemper to sound like yours !
Buy tone junkie profiles lol, they are amazing
@@denverwilliams22 Already have a bunch of "Tone Junkie" profiles homey... they are good but I'm talk'n live applications.. A lot of modelers sound good at low to moderate volume levels but more often than not the tone falls apart when cranked at realistic live gig levels. the tone gets harsh and shrill, by contrast Real tube amps tend to sound better the louder you crank them.. So I was interested in what
H. W. used in a live situation. I bought the non- powered Kemper Kab and it's ok at moderate volumes but fair when cranked...
@@Avatar7x7 Tweak at stage volume. Go into a rehearsal room and get it down. Ideally bring in a bass player and drummer to help you get sorted. I use a combo of M Britt and Tone Junkie Profiles to build performances. I use the pure boost post amp to add 3db for solo boosts automatically on in positions 4 & 5 within performances. Halve your gain and halve the wetness of your delays. In fact get a good tone sans fx first and foremost. You must tweak at stage volume.
Absolutely awesome video! Thank you, I think you have convinced me to get a Kemper 😬 it’s too good
Great content, comparison and tone HW! I think the Kemper is a great tool indeed. However, I would like mention the information you give around 03:45 is not really accurate since for the same amplitude a high frequency wave will have actually more energy than the lower frequency wave. The reason behind lower frequency waves' capability to propogate further is because they get absorbed less by the objects encountered.
So where is the microphone during the shootout? I couldn't see one.
That was a fun video. Enjoyed ghe playing and conversation.You brought up plenty of interesting points. Im new to Kemper, i just bought a power rack and plan on using it with my plethera of 4x12 cabs. Problem is I know zero about the settings in the Kemper. Damn it.
11:45 vs 12:16 HW do you hear the difference. Seems like the Kemper lost the magic, the presence is a little over the top.
What is the impact of the open back of the Fender amp vs the closed back of the cab which is perhaps more appropriate for rock and metal.
Run my Kemper Stage into a RCF NX 12-SMA power monitor. It was for sure an investment but I'm glad I did. Because this is a high end powered monitor and my Kemper is dialed in it directly relates better to FOH. I take it with me to all gigs ( I like the monitor format so it's sound coming right at me) and it's just my Kemper Stage and the monitor. The RCF HD 10-A is also a nice far cheaper choice (which I have used before making the jump to the NX series). Again for me dialing in my sound to a normal stage monitor has worked out far better as it relates to exactly what I want for my FOH sound with less EQ adjustments for the sound engineer.
I bought the Vibroverb profile and love it. It’s fantastic
The high frequency from a speaker doesn’t come from the center of the cone. HF emanates from all parts of the cone. Indeed that’s the whole reason why the HF directivity is narrow, since the surface producing the HF is much greater than the wavelength.
There are several other acoustics myths being presented in the video, addressing one that’s popular among guitarists. Hope it’s interesting to learn ;)
Very well done! Thanks for doing this!!
Once again thank you for your explanation of what we perceive. You are a good teacher and a good guitar player.
Great video! sometimes I would look away and was amazed you had switched from the Fender to your Kemper. I think like you mentioned if it's this close in tone who would really notice and you can have a whole gig 's worth of great amps in your Kemper instead of darggining that 1 Fender around.
Are you still enjoying your Silver Sky? I have been going back and forth on snagging one for months now!
Awesome - like a crazy scientist teaching really great infos.
I have a Boss Katana. Ever since I bought a PA for my music room to play electric drums to, I've just used the line-out of my Katana trough my mixer to my PA. I think it sounds better than the Katana. The Katana is on a table over top of the PA. Both are pointed straight out (not upwards at all). Could it be that from further away the Katana would sound better? My room isn't big enough to be 10 feet away.
To get even closer could you make an IR in the room to match the EQ of the Kemper to the amp? Surely those small EQ difference could be matched that way… do you think something like that would work?
I know you can do that sort of thing to tune studio monitors to a room to make them sound more true to the original sound, I thought the same idea could possibly work…
I run my Kemper powerhead through a 1 x 15 loaded with a 70's JBL and it delivers!
Awesome vid as usual. Thanks for all the profiling and the nerding out you do to make the kemper amazing for everyone. I haven’t picked up the 64vibroverb pack yet but I think this convinced me to get it.
Love it! Interesting, I need to take my 64' custom virboverb out and compare them in my room. Tbh the verb is a bit loud for me in my room so I am in no hurry lol. Owning the stage and not knowing when powered cab was coming out I made a kemper kone custom cabinet as a project (using tc electronics 200w class D bass amp flat for power). It sounds great and is a nice break from studio monitors. Running both monitors and a cab in the room is the bees knees. Thanks for the video.
05:13 You mention standing 10 - 12 feet away from speaker box.... But did you notice that if you do stand 12 feet away, then run the guitar through a series of effects pedals at your feet, then return to the amp, then that is a distance of at least 20 feet. You are getting into the capacitance issues distance then, if you have a guitar loaded with passive pickups and no buffers along the way.
Hmmm - well, the signal to the speaker gets there via balanced XLR, at least in my 'profiler-mixing desk-HRHR monitor' setup. You could easily stand 50 feet away and not run into problems.
@@TheGrandmaMoses True, but I was looking at the conundrum of properly hearing a speaker box not a Profiler rig. If you have a setup consisting of guitar-pedals-amp and to hear all that properly you have to stand 12 feet away, that turns into at least 24 ft of cable to and from, let alone the patch cables between pedals. If you do not have any buffer in circuit, if you only use passive pickups in the guitar, if you don't use any balanced line, that length of cabling will cause capacitance degradation of the signal.
@@OzziePete1 I really do not think that HW wanted to express that that is the 'proper' way to do it, as in 'the best sounding way to a human ear'. In fact, I think he wanted to express quite the opposite, as in '12 feet away will give the sound the least room interaction'. And room interaction would be what we as guitarists want for that amp-in-a-room sound most of us consider pleasant. Let me elaborate:
All he said was that, in my understanding, unless around 12 feet away, some of your upper midrange and highrange comes to your ears via bouncing off the room. This, according to him, is what creates the pleasant 'amp-in-a-room' tone and experience. It's not just the amp, it's the room that is a big part of that amp-in-the-room sound.
And he did that little excursion bascially just to explain his microphone setup and why he chose to do it the way he did with his room mic. The way I understood it is that at this range, since all of your frequencies have the space to reach the room mic directly fom the speaker cone without bouncing from anywhere, it would be the best place to compare two amp sounds with each other as the room has the least effect on the tone there.
He did not, in my opinion, say that the best tone is found at that range - it just makes for the best comparability as the room is somewhat taken away or scaled back from the sound 'picture' at that position. In short: At 12 feet, you get the most 'amp' sound with the least 'room' sound added in - which is ideal for comparing amp tones.
He even mentioned that 'we guitarists don't do that' in terms of the positioning - which in his words is the reason why we experience that amp-in-a-room sound in the first place. We all position ourselves in a normal setting so that a lot of frequencies that hit us are reflected unto us from somewhere, which is what brings that pleasant feeling and coincidentally explains why it always feels thin and underwhelming to go open-air.
So to him, it's not 'the air moving' that creates that feeling as some people repeatedly claim. Which makes sense, my 12'' FRFR moves as much air as a 12'' Fender on the same volume, obviously. Sorry for my long take on what I think was said in the video, that's just how I got it.
Other than that, you are completely right, if you go over a certain distance ( in metric countries we go with around 20 metres ), your signal will suffer. The easiest solution I can think of, if you want to get that 12 feet distance which, as explained above, may not even be desirable, would be to put a D.I. box at the end of your pedalboard and turn your signal into a balanced one. I don't think that's a complicated or expensive solution to the problem - on the contrary. Other than converting your signal, I wouldn't know the first thing to do to tackle that problem, I never thought about buffering in my chain, I always went balanced as early in my signal chain as possible and didn't have problems since.
Last thing, don't forget that by going to 12 yards you'd do nothing for the people actually listening to your music, all you'd achieve is eventually get a better or at least different monitor sound for yourself on stage, which is really the only place where it matters as in my experience it's rather hard to get to 20m of cable length in a 'room' that's not a studio or a church. And nothing out of all of this matters if you use a tilted FRFR or monitor speaker which delivers every frequency to your ears within like three yards anyway as the speaker cone is more or less directly pointed at you.
Have a nice day!
This felt like a Vsauce episode, awesome video!
I don’t know what that is but I’ll look it up!
just downloaded several packs from the website next to other ones(...britt, etc) but have to say these are standing out loud and clear, just for you to know. so TJ profiles my favs at the moment. also led me to re appreciate my kemper again and as in another video you mentioned they are all doing more or less the same good job, i now decided to keep it and not trade in for the tonex or other. greetings from amsterdam and keep up the good work,oh and i woudlnt mind a new pack of alternative sounds such as by Johnny Marr, Vini Reilly, John Mcgeogh ao !
How loud is the Kemper power kab please and does it sound as loud as an amp thanks..
Hi HW,
thank you for this. Maybe I don’t catched this, do you use FRFR mode or do you use an Kemper cab imprint? For me all profiles sound better if I use imprints instead FRFR mode. Also your 64 vibroberb profiles. Makes this sense? And do you have a favourite imprint for general continuous sound and live usage?
Great video, what are the settings in the Kemper kabinet? Monitor cab off or on? And do you use the studio or the direct profiel?
Is the kemper cab and kemper cone a good choice for gig ?
Preach it baby Amen. i love it thanks amigo great job
But why a tube amp must have to sound better? I think we are only used to the tube sound. But in the end it doesn't matter where the sound is coming from. And in a band mix you won't ever hear the difference, when the sound difference is so subtle for it alone.
Fucking great man, just fucking great!
The KEMPER is a fantastic thing, beautiful.
CHEERS.
Vibro has this natural mid frequency that Kemper in this situation I think lacks. Is bit quieter as well. Theres no punch that Vibro has. But that might be cause Vibro is bit louder.
Youre right!! I'm tired of rambling guitar player know it alls! I got a Kemper and it's all I need for the rest of my life. If I cant get it done with this, I can't get it done!!
HW, do you prefer the kemper Kab or the powered kemper kone.
Thanks!
The Kemper Cab sounds a bit harsh.. I just got one, and really am struggling..Though it has something more "air moving" about it, it has a weird phasey harshness going on that I can't quite figure out..I'm also not an FRFR guy...Hinestly, I thought my powered monitor sounded better. My other profiles are all done using V30 speaker types, so I just use a 112 V30 and recto cab (..turning cab off) and it works great...whereas the V30 profile did not deliver for hi-gain and modern hi-gain...I already have too much to choose from in world of Kemper...Just my experience...I think you've made it sound the best. : )
DO you still have the Kab? I just ordered I used one, and I have 45 days to return it if I do not like it. DO you turn the Cabinet button off when using the Kab? I always leave it on when using headphones or with studio monitors, but when I played it through a Boss Katana (power amp in on the back) it sounded way better with Cabinet button off. It looks as though he's leaving the Cabinet button on on this video. Sorry I am very new to kemper!
Nice sounds! Which pickups do you use?
Halleluja! For years I’ve been filtering TGP and other internet community content sources with all this in mind. Folks talking about the variance i different amp X revision’s low/mid/high/super-high presence should twist their neck 15 degrees before commenting. ;)
how did you get that flower pattern on the front of your kemper its beautiful. I would like one for mine :)
Google happy kemper skins. They make them, it’s a magnet.
It was going so well until you hit the bridge pickup
HW is 6’2 ??
I am in fact 6 foot 2 inches. It's funny because everytime I meet people in person at Namm or wherever, they always comment that I am taller in person. I'm not sure if its how I film myself or what but everyone says I don't look very tall in my videos. I dunno, maybe its the angle.
Anyone try the cab with a Helix?
Sounds similar, but the original Amp sounds a bit warmer to me.
The kemper sounds good but eyes closed and in my studio monitors, but this overproduced sound is, and I don’t like to say that, to clean. Something is missing. Don’t put the kemper behind and amp and its going to sound really good
Kemper cab version sounds boxy … the vibroverb sounds glorious
I thought the Fender sounded much warmer, but the cab speaker difference does make sense. My real interest is how to get great recordings from the Kemper; either by mic or by directly into an interface. Let’s get that discussion content going, please.
A friend of mine is a well known producer and I had a talk with him the other day about this subject. He noticed more and more guitarists bringing in a Kemper instead of analog gear lately. So he tried to shake things up a little and record the Kemper with direct out ànd with mic’s in front of a cab.
In the end, he did not use the mic’s because the Kemper output was so much better and it was useless to mix in the mic sounds.
Off course you can experiment with this but he was blown away about the direct out sound and pretty meh about the mic’ed up cab.
The fact the kab isn’t powered makes it useless to me with my kemper stage
They make powered Kabs now. Video right before this on the channel about the “ultimate Kemper Rig” has some info about them.
@@ToneJunkieTV ah, okay i didn't watch that one yet, I'll check it out.
Nice wig ToneJunkie
Gosh you must have a lot of doh ray me. Look at all that gear!
Guitar players have no idea what they're talking about? Actually, some do. If you'd rather have that thin harsh high end Kemper Kab tone at 12:17 rather than the smooth highs of the real amp at 11:46 on the bridge PU, then yes, you're just another guitarist who can't tell the difference between jagged edge sine wave class D tone from a true class A or B tube amp. Pretty obvious, even thru YT and headphones.
Holy shit I kinda prefer the Kemper😅
At this point perfect tone and sound quality just seems impossible to control.
11:46
Everything you hear through youtube is digital so the difference between the two is minimal. However, if you compare a Kemper and a real amp in your room or in a small club, an amp sounds waaaay better! I have a kemper and it is a great tool for digital recordings or for playing through digital PAs -> it’s where the analog sound looses it’s sence. If the modern PA’s were analog, evety tube amp would blow kemper away….
12:16
Vibro here much better
HW :)
I like more the kemper, im selling my house and buying one, in my country that bundle cost like u$s10.000, long live socialism.
11:46 & 12:16 The Kemper... OUCH. Yuck.
lol.
The Kemper has tone knobs, lower the treble and presence and or Definition...done.
Real amp every single second of every single day…kemper is fake ass tone
you are just a star thanks for all your time helping out on learning about this wonder full amp fake or not thanks brian uk
I think so. You have to pick an amp though. I bought it to play on headphones in my condo. I can have my computer playing back any music i like and crank up the jam at 3am and no one hears it. So far it is the best non amp option I have heard. However $$$ so there's that. Helix is as good some would argue. The Kemper does so much it's almost overwhelming for people like me who just want to turn on the unit and have great sounds. I just learned about ducking my fx today. So many things I dont know yet. If I had a house I would probably buy the new Paul Reed Smith amps. I found my three sounds in under two minutes. Boom. Best clean sound ever. The amp I tried doesnt have a footswitch though. air thought that was a massive ball drop. I digress.
I like your channel found you on jhs pedal show!I'm trying to figure out if the Kemper is worth buying and getting rid of a ton of heavy old stuff!what do you think of positive grid high end stuff compared?
Thanks!