Thank you for reuploading the seminar, with sound this time! This is a wonderful conversation, Mr. Michael Sandel is a great thinker who must never be silenced!
Fostering an environment that values meritocracy, where the right person for the job is selected based on their skills, abilities, and relevant experience rather than solely on academic degrees or other superficial factors, is indeed crucial for effective decision-making. Meritocracy, in this sense, promotes fairness and competence in leadership and decision-making positions. So deficiencies of meritocracy can only be corrected with more meritocracy without allowing corruption
The future of democracy hinges on its ability to evolve and adapt to the changing realities of the modern world. As societies become more interconnected through technology and global challenges such as climate change, inequality, and political polarization, the very nature of democratic participation is being tested. To thrive, democracy must remain inclusive, transparent, and responsive to the needs and voices of its citizens. This includes ensuring access to information, protecting civil liberties, and safeguarding the rights of marginalized communities. Additionally, new forms of civic engagement, such as digital platforms for participation and grassroots movements, may shape how democracy functions in the future. However, the future of democracy also faces challenges, such as the rise of authoritarian tendencies, misinformation, and a growing sense of political disillusionment. These forces threaten the very foundations of democratic values. As individuals, we have an active role to play in preserving democracy through voting, advocacy, and holding our leaders accountable. Our place within democracy is not just passive but requires continuous participation and engagement. It’s crucial that we reaffirm the importance of democratic principles and work towards strengthening democratic institutions, ensuring that democracy is not just about electing leaders but also about fostering a culture of inclusion, justice, and shared responsibility for the common good.
Mathew Taylor, when an audience member asks a question please allow the speaker to answer before trying to elaborate or interpret the question. It is very distracting to listen to a question and then an elaboration before the answer emerges. Michael Sandel, excellent speech. For so long have I heard the phrase that those who work hard will be rewarded. It is SO not true. Only with market forces is it true. I have worked 12 and 14 hour shifts as an emergency worker, not to be rewarded except by the knowledge that I have done a good job or saved a life. But there is no money in that. Thank you for explaining a new way to view contribution.
Here here.. I know exactly how you feel.. I try to remind myself that I entered this profession to give people and knew that the money award will never come close to the sacrifice
Sandel probably agrees with worker coops but never mentions them. This would bring him closer to the democratic socialist concept by bringing democracy to the workplace. At least coops could coexist with the traditional private enterprises. The problem is the plutocrats (1%) who block government’s real efforts to stimulate coops.
Harvard is hardly one of the top universities where quality is concerned. Why anyone would stirve to get into Harvard, Yale, etc. is incomprehensible. Perhaps Stanford but not Harvard.
The audience is eloquent, obviously well-educated, thoughtful, respectful and engaged. Yes, it’s the RSA, but if we could - on either side of the pond - expand these qualities through the reinvigoration of effective higher education to the greater population, we could eradicate the possibility of ever facing another Trump, Johnson or Fascism/Populism again. At least for a while. Mr. Sandel intimated that the great divide lies along lines of education, where trust of the intelligent elite has been deteriorated by decades of manipulation and self-interest. I don’t know how the British economy sees the value of a Liberal Arts education, but in America, it has been all but eliminated in favor of tech degrees, programs designed wholly around a paycheck (service to a commercial industry) rather than the historical goal of creating a better society, country, and world. Anyone with a sufficient educational base can learn to code. But not anyone who has learned to code can translate that skill into the skills required to be politically and socially aware on anything approaching an impactful, relevant level. The simple fact that economics seems to be almost entirely inaccessible to the average person makes them susceptible to the oversimplification of laissez faire economics and coupled with a general ignorance of history especially recent history (in America, the 1970s Watergate scandal is a good example, but also World War II history as it becomes a veritable road map for international relations) eliminates for many the kind of understanding and predictive ability necessary to generally discern outcomes of foolish notions the like that elected both Orange Demons. Believing the antidote to intellectualism is idiocy is a symptom of the lack of intellectualism, itself. Yet we (in America) have allowed this ridiculous notion to fester over decades, electing media personalities to high office because they are recognizable, that recognition in part enhanced by the proof of their merit in accumulated wealth. Anyone with a pair of brain cells left to rub together can see that massive accumulation of wealth is a much greater indication of shrewd, exploitative, and self-serving maneuvers and NOT an indication of value to society. But, the hopelessly befuddled can only equate high merit with great wealth - just one of the many tricks the economic elite have used to undermine the truly intellectual elite who see through their lies. Stalin and Hitler imprisoned and murdered their smartest for a reason. America has done the same by attacking the credentials and reputations, equating high intellectualism with corruption in universities as an excuse to privatize education, as if a for-profit model automatically spells efficiency and value. Meanwhile, those $400,000 salaries of university leaders we found so shocking in the 1980s pale in comparison to the multi-million dollar salaries “education executives” demand today. The effect of course has removed academics from the control of these highly lauded institutions and placed it firmly in the hands of MBAs, much to the detriment of the institutions AND the generations of students who have mortgaged their lives and futures to attain what is quickly becoming part of the race to the bottom business model we’ve imposed upon everything in America so that we could create a billionaire class we did not (and do not) need. We need to fully fund higher education and put the institutions back into the hands of the academics who know how best to educate, remove profit and profiteers from their ranks, and get back to a Liberal Arts based program that puts solidarity and community before competition and wealth accumulation. When John F. Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” he meant in the context of country represented by its people, not a flag or a slogan. Ask not what the community can do for you, ask what you can do for the community. In that context, it not only aligns with Kennedy’s values, but with the policies he worked to institute. The flag as a symbol has no value when removed from a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is hollow without the Americans of E Pluribus Unum, the many colors, creeds, religions, genders, and any other tag one might use to differentiate us. We are the one from the many. Have been and hopefully shall be once more. Programs like this at the RSA, the American EPI, and many other great institutions on either side of the ocean, restore and nourish my hope for a truly great America as measured by its contributions to the world, not just to heights we once achieved, but far, far beyond. And the first step in that direction is the reestablishment of Truth and our faith in it. It will be a long, long journey undoing five decades of self-interest and greed, but we can do it. The Millennial generation has the right qualities to become the next Greatest Generation. If we don’t screw it up for them by destroying education.
Not only that. In the system It's allowed to cheat and to destroy each others lives "to get to the objective" and whatever It takes. Violence,murder, conspiracy, bullying,abuse,and many other examples. Most people behave as the "Follow the money" phrase. Rarely involved at any true 'virtue' as you like to say Mr. Michael,and in the end they will answer you "I deserved this merit" by bullying and commiting violence agains't people.
I find it strange, and quite rude, that the host jumps in and hijacks the audience questions before they are answered...Good talk though. I like everything I hear from Sandel.
The fact that people from the top look down at the people at the buttom is as old as the existence of social division itself. In capitalism, the rich and succesfull always looked down at the poor and ordinary performers. Yet in the past decades, especially after the second World War, in all of Western societies people at the buttom had the feeling that they can rise to the top by working hard. Knowing that their children will be one day a part of the elite, they were able to support the disdain of the elites. One important thing was that after the turmoil in capitalist societies in the 20s and 30s, capitalist countries would stabilize themselves by regulating the negative effects of market economy and by giving people the promise that every one can rise to the top by 1. his own hard work and 2. the means provided to everyone by the state (education, health care). This applies more to Europe that the US, but also to the US. People had the feeling that this is true und thus took part in the capitalist game (and didn't oppose to it like the Socialists of the interwar-period). Today people have lost this very feeling. They think that they are excluded from well-being and that the state doesn't support them enough. That the elites show too much concern for strangers, for immigrants and the like and care too little for the own people. Now some people on the left think they could simply applicate the model of the after war period again and recreate the upward mobility that existed back then. I am not sure if that is possible. There are severe limits for the states for spending money to create well paid jobs and stimulate the ecomomy in a way that would help the middle classes. The financial markets can quickly reverse the positive effects of such policies. The left doesn't have much to offer to the frustrated middle class with their grievances. The right can offer at least two things: scapegoats (the elites and immigrants) and a compensation for the bruised self-esteem of people who fail to get to the top: nationalism, national pride and all that.
Prof Sandel is one of the greatest philosophers alive today, how vividly express his lectures leaves one to yearn more, he is one scholar who needs more media attention than all these negative publicity being flooded in the mainstream media .Live long Prof.
So should we all sit at home and stop working or what do you mean by this. Maybe it's time for a new economic model that can correct some of the inequality so that if we do not take the fruit then maybe our children will. We have to stand together everywhere and say no to the elitist agenda which is controlling all the global wealth and have total control of the elected governments. We are not gonna allow this injustice to continue anymore. It will lead not only to the despair of the people but the eventual demise of the world we are all living in. One world one people. We are all Human and share the Same Earth. The countries are created to make the fools work for the benefit of the elite. Do not let them fool you anymore
prosím rozoberte otázku a od poved ktorý Hitler od povedal generálom nad mornim pod zemnim a nad vzdušným že Hitler on sa neučil s nemal školu akademickú zabíjanie
Sandel definitely made some good points. The problem is that he keeps referring to a politics of "the common good." What exactly is that?! I don't know anyone that is against "the common good." Unfortunately, there are almost as many definitions of that as there are people. As long as we have different and competing values and interests--and we always will--we will never agree upon a common good. The idea of a "common good" is so vague and subjective that's it's entirely meaningless. So we're back to where we started.
It's not quite that complicated, our subjective values and interests may differ greatly, but our biological needs according to Maslows hierarchy is pretty objective and universal. Food, Water, Shelter, Personal Space and in this day and age, Electricity. "The common good" can simply mean creating a society where those basic needs are met regardless of weather there are enough jobs in market to go around. Inequality will ALWAYS exist due to the Pareto principle, BUT we can still create a social safety net that no one can fall below. Automation and Artificial Intelligence will make it possible to do this
I like this professor very much, but wish he would define "elite"; for me, he is an elite in that he is an expert in his field, someone who has studied and experienced enough to command our attention and respect. So is he defining "government elites" in the same way? Or does he mean those in mainstream parties are elitist? Just wondering...
How would the presenter calculate the pressure of 80 million net new humans annually leading to 8 billion now on a system built for 4 billion? How would he add prosperity gospel's I'm blessed!
Sandel fails to appreciate that the root of moral misery is first and foremost the plutocratic form of government. Plutocrats are the masters of mankind despite being an exiguous minority. Their mastery encompasses the need to control culture and ideology which includes morality . Morality merges with short term profit which is the nourishment of plutocracy. Sandel appreciates that morality is based on the market, but fails to recognize the real root of such morality: plutocracy. This is one of the Marx’s two basic accurate insights: historical materialism and the undemocratic organization of the traditional workplace which is based on the tyranny of the owners. Marx biggest mistake was the notion of surplus value which was belied by the simple concepts of supply and demand and scarcity.
BLONDEST I'd LOVE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR FRIENDS IN YOUR OWN BUSINESS and go to SCHOOL again FOR Public Policy IN OUR CURRENT RELATIONSHIP TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER. I like this. SYSTEM INTEGRATION. And I LOVE her LOVE FOR OUR FUTURE LIVES TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER IN AMERICA. Do you allow a Fellowship FOR MY JOB working WITH CIA and permanently protected WITH COLLEAGUES. I would like to go do this FOR years NEXT TWO years BECAUSE OF MY CAREER IN AMERICA based upon OUR OWN WAY OF LIFE IN AMERICA.
Ne preto že niet kto ma fuzi ale všimol som si vo filme kde hrá hlavnú úlohu Adolf Hitler a Investor ho od líšil fuzami od Lenina a zhodou okolností takmer indeticke Profil je má u neviem ako ho nazvať ale asi na 101 % Profil zodpovedá Hitlerovi
Never tire of listening to Professor Michael Sandel 👍
He is a legend! His Harvard lecture series on Justice is one of the best.
Hope: The politics of inclusion towards the collective common good, based on ethical moral values. Thank you Prof Michael Sandel.
Thank you for reuploading the seminar, with sound this time!
This is a wonderful conversation, Mr. Michael Sandel is a great thinker who must never be silenced!
Michael Sandel, you just lit up my mind. Thankyou.
Same here.
Fostering an environment that values meritocracy, where the right person for the job is selected based on their skills, abilities, and relevant experience rather than solely on academic degrees or other superficial factors, is indeed crucial for effective decision-making. Meritocracy, in this sense, promotes fairness and competence in leadership and decision-making positions. So deficiencies of meritocracy can only be corrected with more meritocracy without allowing corruption
You are referring to selecting competent workers, meritocracy is indeed about how success is percieved through society as a whole
Thanks so much for sharing this!
a great thinker of all times ,he is one of my favourite online lecturers
Thank you RSA
Truth spoken! Enlightened.
I agree with the Prof. regarding how next generation should be good for all Americans?
Thank you very much sir
Pray for sir sander longer life from Pakistan...Amen
I never went to college. It has been difficult all my life. My Chiron is in Taurus. The Hierophant. Thank you for this. It has changed me
Accelerationist I agree but I’ve always been treated like a lower class citizen.
The future of democracy hinges on its ability to evolve and adapt to the changing realities of the modern world. As societies become more interconnected through technology and global challenges such as climate change, inequality, and political polarization, the very nature of democratic participation is being tested. To thrive, democracy must remain inclusive, transparent, and responsive to the needs and voices of its citizens. This includes ensuring access to information, protecting civil liberties, and safeguarding the rights of marginalized communities. Additionally, new forms of civic engagement, such as digital platforms for participation and grassroots movements, may shape how democracy functions in the future.
However, the future of democracy also faces challenges, such as the rise of authoritarian tendencies, misinformation, and a growing sense of political disillusionment. These forces threaten the very foundations of democratic values. As individuals, we have an active role to play in preserving democracy through voting, advocacy, and holding our leaders accountable. Our place within democracy is not just passive but requires continuous participation and engagement. It’s crucial that we reaffirm the importance of democratic principles and work towards strengthening democratic institutions, ensuring that democracy is not just about electing leaders but also about fostering a culture of inclusion, justice, and shared responsibility for the common good.
This video should have more views.
Mathew Taylor, when an audience member asks a question please allow the speaker to answer before trying to elaborate or interpret the question. It is very distracting to listen to a question and then an elaboration before the answer emerges. Michael Sandel, excellent speech. For so long have I heard the phrase that those who work hard will be rewarded. It is SO not true. Only with market forces is it true. I have worked 12 and 14 hour shifts as an emergency worker, not to be rewarded except by the knowledge that I have done a good job or saved a life. But there is no money in that. Thank you for explaining a new way to view contribution.
Here here.. I know exactly how you feel.. I try to remind myself that I entered this profession to give people and knew that the money award will never come close to the sacrifice
Sandel probably agrees with worker coops but never mentions them. This would bring him closer to the democratic socialist concept by bringing democracy to the workplace. At least coops could coexist with the traditional private enterprises. The problem is the plutocrats (1%) who block government’s real efforts to stimulate coops.
The Tyranny of Merit. Critique to Michael Young's Concept
I wish I could understand all of the words he said but I noticed Mr.Micheal Sandel doesn’t blink ... very few blinks !!
Profesor môžete od povedať na otazku z ktoré univerzity v WW2 vyšla
So... Andrew Yang?
Ah, the guy from New Economic Thinking! Brilliant guy!
Inet for the win 🙌
Harvard is hardly one of the top universities where quality is concerned. Why anyone would stirve to get into Harvard, Yale, etc. is incomprehensible. Perhaps Stanford but not Harvard.
The audience is eloquent, obviously well-educated, thoughtful, respectful and engaged. Yes, it’s the RSA, but if we could - on either side of the pond - expand these qualities through the reinvigoration of effective higher education to the greater population, we could eradicate the possibility of ever facing another Trump, Johnson or Fascism/Populism again. At least for a while. Mr. Sandel intimated that the great divide lies along lines of education, where trust of the intelligent elite has been deteriorated by decades of manipulation and self-interest.
I don’t know how the British economy sees the value of a Liberal Arts education, but in America, it has been all but eliminated in favor of tech degrees, programs designed wholly around a paycheck (service to a commercial industry) rather than the historical goal of creating a better society, country, and world. Anyone with a sufficient educational base can learn to code. But not anyone who has learned to code can translate that skill into the skills required to be politically and socially aware on anything approaching an impactful, relevant level. The simple fact that economics seems to be almost entirely inaccessible to the average person makes them susceptible to the oversimplification of laissez faire economics and coupled with a general ignorance of history especially recent history (in America, the 1970s Watergate scandal is a good example, but also World War II history as it becomes a veritable road map for international relations) eliminates for many the kind of understanding and predictive ability necessary to generally discern outcomes of foolish notions the like that elected both Orange Demons. Believing the antidote to intellectualism is idiocy is a symptom of the lack of intellectualism, itself. Yet we (in America) have allowed this ridiculous notion to fester over decades, electing media personalities to high office because they are recognizable, that recognition in part enhanced by the proof of their merit in accumulated wealth. Anyone with a pair of brain cells left to rub together can see that massive accumulation of wealth is a much greater indication of shrewd, exploitative, and self-serving maneuvers and NOT an indication of value to society. But, the hopelessly befuddled can only equate high merit with great wealth - just one of the many tricks the economic elite have used to undermine the truly intellectual elite who see through their lies. Stalin and Hitler imprisoned and murdered their smartest for a reason. America has done the same by attacking the credentials and reputations, equating high intellectualism with corruption in universities as an excuse to privatize education, as if a for-profit model automatically spells efficiency and value. Meanwhile, those $400,000 salaries of university leaders we found so shocking in the 1980s pale in comparison to the multi-million dollar salaries “education executives” demand today. The effect of course has removed academics from the control of these highly lauded institutions and placed it firmly in the hands of MBAs, much to the detriment of the institutions AND the generations of students who have mortgaged their lives and futures to attain what is quickly becoming part of the race to the bottom business model we’ve imposed upon everything in America so that we could create a billionaire class we did not (and do not) need. We need to fully fund higher education and put the institutions back into the hands of the academics who know how best to educate, remove profit and profiteers from their ranks, and get back to a Liberal Arts based program that puts solidarity and community before competition and wealth accumulation.
When John F. Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” he meant in the context of country represented by its people, not a flag or a slogan. Ask not what the community can do for you, ask what you can do for the community. In that context, it not only aligns with Kennedy’s values, but with the policies he worked to institute. The flag as a symbol has no value when removed from a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is hollow without the Americans of E Pluribus Unum, the many colors, creeds, religions, genders, and any other tag one might use to differentiate us. We are the one from the many. Have been and hopefully shall be once more.
Programs like this at the RSA, the American EPI, and many other great institutions on either side of the ocean, restore and nourish my hope for a truly great America as measured by its contributions to the world, not just to heights we once achieved, but far, far beyond. And the first step in that direction is the reestablishment of Truth and our faith in it. It will be a long, long journey undoing five decades of self-interest and greed, but we can do it. The Millennial generation has the right qualities to become the next Greatest Generation. If we don’t screw it up for them by destroying education.
Not only that. In the system It's allowed to cheat and to destroy each others lives "to get to the objective" and whatever It takes. Violence,murder, conspiracy, bullying,abuse,and many other examples.
Most people behave as the "Follow the money" phrase. Rarely involved at any true 'virtue' as you like to say Mr. Michael,and in the end they will answer you "I deserved this merit" by bullying and commiting violence agains't people.
I find it strange, and quite rude, that the host jumps in and hijacks the audience questions before they are answered...Good talk though. I like everything I hear from Sandel.
The fact that people from the top look down at the people at the buttom is as old as the existence of social division itself. In capitalism, the rich and succesfull always looked down at the poor and ordinary performers. Yet in the past decades, especially after the second World War, in all of Western societies people at the buttom had the feeling that they can rise to the top by working hard. Knowing that their children will be one day a part of the elite, they were able to support the disdain of the elites.
One important thing was that after the turmoil in capitalist societies in the 20s and 30s, capitalist countries would stabilize themselves by regulating the negative effects of market economy and by giving people the promise that every one can rise to the top by 1. his own hard work and 2. the means provided to everyone by the state (education, health care). This applies more to Europe that the US, but also to the US. People had the feeling that this is true und thus took part in the capitalist game (and didn't oppose to it like the Socialists of the interwar-period). Today people have lost this very feeling. They think that they are excluded from well-being and that the state doesn't support them enough. That the elites show too much concern for strangers, for immigrants and the like and care too little for the own people.
Now some people on the left think they could simply applicate the model of the after war period again and recreate the upward mobility that existed back then. I am not sure if that is possible. There are severe limits for the states for spending money to create well paid jobs and stimulate the ecomomy in a way that would help the middle classes. The financial markets can quickly reverse the positive effects of such policies. The left doesn't have much to offer to the frustrated middle class with their grievances.
The right can offer at least two things: scapegoats (the elites and immigrants) and a compensation for the bruised self-esteem of people who fail to get to the top: nationalism, national pride and all that.
Prof Sandel is one of the greatest philosophers alive today, how vividly express his lectures leaves one to yearn more, he is one scholar who needs more media attention than all these negative publicity being flooded in the mainstream media .Live long Prof.
So should we all sit at home and stop working or what do you mean by this. Maybe it's time for a new economic model that can correct some of the inequality so that if we do not take the fruit then maybe our children will. We have to stand together everywhere and say no to the elitist agenda which is controlling all the global wealth and have total control of the elected governments. We are not gonna allow this injustice to continue anymore. It will lead not only to the despair of the people but the eventual demise of the world we are all living in. One world one people. We are all Human and share the Same Earth. The countries are created to make the fools work for the benefit of the elite. Do not let them fool you anymore
Read Nicolas Berdyaev "The destiny of man" on these issues,he is brilliant!
prosím rozoberte otázku a od poved ktorý Hitler od povedal generálom nad mornim pod zemnim a nad vzdušným že Hitler on sa neučil s nemal školu akademickú zabíjanie
Sandel definitely made some good points. The problem is that he keeps referring to a politics of "the common good." What exactly is that?! I don't know anyone that is against "the common good." Unfortunately, there are almost as many definitions of that as there are people. As long as we have different and competing values and interests--and we always will--we will never agree upon a common good. The idea of a "common good" is so vague and subjective that's it's entirely meaningless. So we're back to where we started.
It's not quite that complicated, our subjective values and interests may differ greatly, but our biological needs according to Maslows hierarchy is pretty objective and universal. Food, Water, Shelter, Personal Space and in this day and age, Electricity. "The common good" can simply mean creating a society where those basic needs are met regardless of weather there are enough jobs in market to go around. Inequality will ALWAYS exist due to the Pareto principle, BUT we can still create a social safety net that no one can fall below. Automation and Artificial Intelligence will make it possible to do this
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I like this professor very much, but wish he would define "elite"; for me, he is an elite in that he is an expert in his field, someone who has studied and experienced enough to command our attention and respect. So is he defining "government elites" in the same way? Or does he mean those in mainstream parties are elitist? Just wondering...
How would the presenter calculate the pressure of 80 million net new humans annually leading to 8 billion now on a system built for 4 billion? How would he add prosperity gospel's I'm blessed!
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That's just maquiavelly, you need gold and you'll find it in Mexico, but you'll have to take it by force like usual, I know a cold war when i see one.
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Ah, the guy from New Economic Thinking! Brilliant guy!
He sounds similar to Tom Ford.
precise
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Sandel fails to appreciate that the root of moral misery is first and foremost the plutocratic form of government. Plutocrats are the masters of mankind despite being an exiguous minority. Their mastery encompasses the need to control culture and ideology which includes morality . Morality merges with short term profit which is the nourishment of plutocracy.
Sandel appreciates that morality is based on the market, but fails to recognize the real root of such morality: plutocracy. This is one of the Marx’s two basic accurate insights: historical materialism and the undemocratic organization of the traditional workplace which is based on the tyranny of the owners. Marx biggest mistake was the notion of surplus value which was belied by the simple concepts of supply and demand and scarcity.
BLONDEST I'd LOVE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR FRIENDS IN YOUR OWN BUSINESS and go to SCHOOL again FOR Public Policy IN OUR CURRENT RELATIONSHIP TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER. I like this. SYSTEM INTEGRATION. And I LOVE her LOVE FOR OUR FUTURE LIVES TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER IN AMERICA. Do you allow a Fellowship FOR MY JOB working WITH CIA and permanently protected WITH COLLEAGUES.
I would like to go do this FOR years NEXT TWO years BECAUSE OF MY CAREER IN AMERICA based upon OUR OWN WAY OF LIFE IN AMERICA.
Ne preto že niet kto ma fuzi ale všimol som si vo filme kde hrá hlavnú úlohu Adolf Hitler a Investor ho od líšil fuzami od Lenina a zhodou okolností takmer indeticke Profil je má u neviem ako ho nazvať ale asi na 101 % Profil zodpovedá Hitlerovi
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wahh what's up with that swallow
I never went to college. It has been difficult all my life. My Chiron is in Taurus. The Hierophant. Thank you for this. It has changed me