Question of the Day: What do you guys think about this drill press (or WEN in general)?? And if you use a different drill press, which do you use and what do you think is better or worse compared to this one in particular?
I work on drill presses, mostly vintage industrial models. There are currently 13 presses in my shop, six of which are mine: two Delta DP-220 (a benchtop model in superb original condition made in 1943) and a floorstander that was put together with the best parts from all the DP-220s that I've restored, a Walker-Turner 700, an essentially perfect Atlas 53 made sometime in the mid-40s, a somewhat modern Rockwell with a model number too long to recall immediately, and a 1955 Craftsman/King Steely Spacehead. All in as-new condition including the chucks, motors, and all the hardware. How does a machine like the Wen compare? It's a different world. What do I think of Wen? As a rule of thumb, if you can lift the base out of its box with one hand, it's not a heavy duty drill press. Rigidity is paramount. I don't care for Wen's marketing campaign here on YT. It's sneaky and underhanded; someone who isn't used to the dynamic of the platform can easily fall for it. I could see the runout with the camera fairly far away. If this were mine, I'd replace the chuck. That's not cheap and an extended conversation in itself. This being said, you may be able to lessen its runout by flipping the arbor in the quill 180*. If you get an indicator/base and can measure this, there may be more you could do. Again, it's a separate conversation. The 3.125" quill travel is OK, better than ~2" found in similar consumer presses. Typically, you'd want at least 4". Could also hear some chatter in the bearings, even though the machine is relatively quiet right now. This will only get worse with time. If you use it for wood and don't have it running all day, the Wen should serve you well for many years. The runout, as an example, likely will make no difference in your projects, unlike working with metal. Good luck.
Felix F I truly appreciate your feedback! I am nowhere near as familiar with machining equipment as you seem to be and I love to learn! I do agree the WEN is not a heavy duty machine. I see it as an affordable woodworking option. I know I would need to spend a lot more to get the level of precision you are talking about here. I would personally love to take an older more sturdy machine and bring it back to life and use it because I truly don’t think they make them like that anymore, but my own ignorance would be a hindrance there. Maybe for my next drill after this one is worn out. Which Chuck would you suggest replacing this one with? I will definitely look into that! Thank you once again for the input! I really love to learn all that I can and I know I am still learning with a long way to go!
@@BentleyDesignCo "Which Chuck would you suggest replacing this one with? I will definitely look into that!" Excellent thought! What price range are you comfortable with? I'm assuming that your arbor has a 33JT taper.
@@felixf5211 The manual says it's a JT3, not sure if that's the same thing as a 33JT or not. You can see the specs for this drill from the manual at about 23:25 in this video.
@@BentleyDesignCo Now that you say it, I do recall seeing that it's a 3JT. 33JT is the most common. 3JT is a pretty good size taper. That's nice. One question; did the press come with a metal wedge (ie. a drift) to remove the arbor? If this is doable, you can essentially use any chuck you want as long as its arbor terminates in a MT2. It's an opportunity to spend less on a good chuck, depending on the budget. Arbors are inexpensive. I like to use Jacobs arbors, but to tell you the truth, there isn't a functional difference between an Asian arbor and one made in the US, UK, Germany, or Japan. The price is different, that's for sure. As a FYI, typically an arbor is around $10. Jacobs arbors range from ~$15 for a used one to relatively obscene sums. Meanwhile, let me take a look at what's around with a 3JT.
Just put mine together yesterday. For those who are considering this model be aware that the table that came with mine, the shaft was too small in diameter for the collar that it fit in. Even tightening the collar to the max the table could still rotate. I probably should call wen but for now I cut 2 aluminum pop cans to surround the shaft. Increaing the diameter by .016". It would tighten then but it still nearly bottomed out the collar. See video at 8:05 or so. I really like this otherwise. It really is a great value!! Thanks for the video. Nicely done.
I don't know how I missed this comment, but thanks so much for watching! I'm sorry to hear you had issues with your press. I hope it's working smoothly for you now!
Hello! I found your video and setup up my Wen 4214 right along with you and everything worked great! Thankfully mine seemed to have perfect bit to table alignment and the laser was also spot on. However, yours being both out of alignment was actual of great help to those of us who need to make adjustments. So, it worked out well! Thank you VERY much for making this video!
Thank you for the video. I just got exact same model today, was putting it together and then got to the chuck installation step and was not sure I was fully understanding that step. I was like "stop" don't go any further, let's check out RUclips and see if anyone has a video on the this. I also wasn't aware you could adjust the Lazer, so again thanks for this informative video, you really helped me out.
Looked at several vids (and in the manual) for the laser alignment. The picture in the manual is incomprehensible and utterly vague as to just where the Allen screws are located. You showed it precisely. Good job. Thanks!
Just as an aside there are two allen bolts to secure the head to the tube, the one you tightened and one right above it. You may want to tighten that one too. I liked the video, this is the third unboxing I've watched and you did a pretty good job. The arbor as you called it is actually the spindle, what it goes into is called the quill, yup, like the pen. I really didn't know this before, but when I looked at the manual that I downloaded it mentions the quill and several places where the drill press is advertised also mentions it, so I did my due diligence and looked it up. Any, great video, I'm going to keep my eyes open for the rest of the review, when you start your project. I'll be interested to see how it goes. Till next time! 🖖😎
LOL! "I may even be uncomfortable placing the head on the column",...after holding it over your head and giving the box a Ninja kick off the top of the table while balancing on one foot? Damn kids showing off their strength & youth all over the internet! :-) Great video & information! Thanks for sharing. Subbed!
Hahaha thanks! I never stated that I make good decisions 😂 I should put a disclaimer on my videos so nobody emulates my dumb actions 🤣 Thank you so much for watching though! And for subscribing! 😊👍🏻
the wrench that you were looking at allows you to adjust the angle of the table up or down for left to right, you'll find the adjustment bolt under the table by the column ......... by the way good luck to you and your family and use it well Batman out
Great vid. I have the exact same model and very much like it. One thing you did not mention is that the Yellow piece of the power switch comes out, and when it is out the drill will not turn on. Also for those thinking of getting this drill press, do so, but follow the directions and mount the base before you assemble the machine. I did not and in fastening it to the base I put it on the machine rolled and broke the handle that raises and lowers the table. A call to Wen and about $5 later I had a new handle so their customer service is also good. Oh, and just subscribed to your channel
Hitting the chuck is not a great way to secure it. The way I always did it was put something on the drill press bed which you can then bring the chuck down on it and then press it in, no need for a hammer.
10:00 there’s another bolt 2” above that should be tightened as well. The manual is missing it but it also goes to the column. Overall it’s a decent machine. Noisy and got some excessive runout but it’s hard to complain for $270 with no tax and free shipping. Also, mine doesn’t go lower than 620 rpm.
Thanks for the review. I bought this one around July and love it. I was worried when it arrived because the box was pretty beat up, but it was fine. I like the variable power and use it a lot when I'm working on a scroll saw project. I also used it with a 3" hole dozer when I was making Steve's Catalina wall cabinet, so I can say it will take whatever you throw at it. Hope you enjoy using yours. I'm still planning on getting that Wen air filter sometime this year.
Thanks for watching! I fully agree with you so far! I have been using this drill press for about a month now and it has been very smooth. My box had some small tears, but like you, my drill press was in perfect condition. The variable speed has been very useful already for me. Switching from drilling through holes, to insets with forstner bits, to even cutting plugs. It makes it very easy to change the speed and keep drilling with less down time. Let me know when you get that air filter! I just changed the filters in mine because they were covered in dust. I can't believe I was breathing that in before!
I have the same model (well, mines a 4214T whatever that means) and my box was beat up bad. The styrofoam was broken inside in multiple places. But lo and behold nothing appeared damaged, though the box looked like it took a serious fall. I also wish they'd ship it a little more inconspicuously instead displaying WEN DRILL PRESS to the world, but I guess that's one way to get your name out there. All in all, I like the machine. I'm having trouble with my table though. I have to really torque the rear knob to keep it from moving and it's a pain that every time I raise or lower it, the table moves laterally as well. Maybe I missed a set screw somewhere? That wrench btw is just for tightening the 3 main handles and the fourth handle for the speed adjustment. Why there's a large end on the wrench is beyond me. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for the video I bought my for a specific project and rushed through assembly. Would you believe I didn’t notice it came with a light and laser before watching this?.. haha
Haha glad I could help out! The light is very nice! I turn the laser on to give me a rough estimate but then lower the bit to get exactly where I want it before turning on the drill 👍🏻 Have fun and be safe!
Hey! Thanks for watching! You probably just need to tighten it down a little more of the table is shifting. Mine hasn’t budged since I set it. If you have it all the way tightened down and it’s still moving, I would contact WEN customer support and see if they can give you a replacement part to stop that. 👍🏻
Happy for you! Mine doesn’t vibrate that much that I can notice with my eye. However there is some small run out when drilling. You can upgrade the chuck if you need some more precision though. Hope you enjoy! And thanks for watching! :)
No problem at all! I'm glad you enjoyed it and hopefully I was able to help answer some questions you had on it. Let me know how you end up liking it! I've been using it quite a bit on my latest project and I am so happy with it!
So, I'm curious - those of you who have one of these adjustable speed DP with the Reeves thing in the top....How does it last over time? Not sure when these came out, but also curious how well the adjustment arm stays put, and how long the belt lasts?
I haven’t really had it for any amount of time to speak to the wear n’ tear yet, but so far it’s all good. As far as the speed staying consistent, I haven’t had any trouble at all with the lever moving or the speed changing on me.
Is the Easter Egg mis-statement that you tightened the hex head screw right below the two hex head screws that are supposed to be tightened to keep the head from rotating on the column?
Several reviews that I saw said that the mounting base had an issue with one foot pad being higher then the rest & he contacted customer service & ordered another which had the same issue? Also, That the 4214 is to tall for benchtop use but, to short to be used as a floor model? Would you order it again?
I'm sorry, I don't know how I missed your comment earlier :( But my press sat perfectly steady and the height is very comfortable for me on my workbench. You can always make a drill press cart or stand also to sit it on so you can make the height perfect for your body. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@@BentleyDesignCo yessir! Thanks a ton, was looking at buying this model to put a free x y table i got my hands on sadly the base is about 7 inches from channel to channel.
Hi Chrisy! I did check the front to back runout angle as well. I just didn’t show it on the video since the table was already indeed perpendicular to the bit in that direction. 👍🏻
@@BentleyDesignCo I know this is a old video but has helped me out recently. mine isn't level front to back but i don't see how I can adjust the table in that direction??
I just noticed the name on the post is Bentley design company, Bentley is on my mother's side of the family. In fact my great, great, great grandfather founded Bentleyville, PA. It would be interesting to find if we're related. 🖖😎
My side of the Bentley family came from England -> Massachusetts -> North Carolina -> Kentucky. Thomas Bentley Sr. was the first of my Bentley line to land here in America back around 1690-ish I think. Not sure if any of my kin made it up to the PA area or not honestly.
I wish that there were at least two allen head set screws that hold the drill head & motor to the column & that there were flats on the shaft or releif's
I agree that two set screws for securing the motor head to the column shaft would probably be a good idea! I haven’t had it move or squirm on me yet, but I will definitely keep an eye out for that! Thanks so much for your input! It really helps to think of things I may not have gotten to when I hear from you guys!
I haven’t had any play in the chuck since I have installed it. It was actually difficult for me to knock lose the one time I did remove it. However I can’t see how it would hurt. It would cause the chuck to swell and the shaft to shrink a little, which might give an even more secure fit. I’m definitely not an expert at that level (or any level haha) though! :)
I wouldn't do that. It is designed to work as is. If you did that you may never get it out again, which would make you sad if you wanted to upgrade the chuck at some point. If you are having issues with the tapered shaft staying in place make sure it is clean of any lube, and doesn't have any bumps or burrs on it. Then give it a good smack with a mallet.
Excellent! Let me know how you like it! I have not upgraded my chick yet, but that is one of the drawbacks of this drill press, is the runout you get from the stock chuck. I have seen some options for ~$100 to replace it with, but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Let me know if you do!
You’re lookin at about 16” x 9.75” for the base. Sorry it took me so long to get back to ya. I actually have it in storage at the moment because we just moved into a new house. So I had to go there and measure it.
The wrench was for you to assemble.😂 JT3 stands for Jacob's Taper 3.That's the size of the arbor that goes in the Chuck. MT2 stands for Morse Taper 2 that's the size of the arbor that goes in the quill. So ultimately you have a JT3/MT2 or also known as J3/M2 Arbor.
Yea I figured out the wrench after it was all assembled already 😆 Thanks for all the helpful info! I hope you enjoyed watching it at least got a good laugh at me 😂
The capacity of the included chuck is stated to be 1/8” - 5/8” in the manual. I have not tried to use a bit outside of that range with it. But the chuck does close all the way together, so theoretically it should “fit”. I just don’t know how it would perform. Thank you for watching!
I think it was for the bolts on the base, but could definitely be used for multiple applications, I’m sure. Regardless, the wrench is pretty low quality and I would advise you to use your own if you have one available.
I have a question for anybody who knows about this. How can I learn about what speed to run for different woods and different metals . Is there a chart I can access ?
Yea you can definitely get a better result with an upgraded chuck. But it does a good enough job for my woodworking so far. I probably will upgrade the chuck in the near future though. We have been moving so I haven’t gotten to do much woodworking over the last year. That’s why I haven’t uploaded anything new in a bit.
You showed that you can get it 90 degrees left and right to the table. My 4214 has a table that leans slightly forward. So - no adjustment there - the press is basically worthless... I didn't realize this until I started having issues trying to mate up knife handle scales with pins. I'm past my refund date - so now I'm having a nightmare of a time trying to shim up a vise on the table to make it 90 degrees in all directions. If I ever buy another drill press I'll go to a store and take my machinists square with me to make sure of what I'm getting. :( POS
Yea, I don’t know if this drill is great for machining right out of the box. Maybe with an update to the chuck? But for woodworking it has been doing great for me so far with intermittent use.
Not scared of metal, I just don’t do any metalworking. I just do woodworking, but if I start doing metal projects I will try to remember to update this with the results. The general consensus I have gotten though is that the runout may be a little much for the precision needed in metalworking. Depends on your needs, I suppose.
It was primarily an unboxing/assembly video. With a “review” of my initial thoughts. The main goal of this video is definitely not to give you an in-depth review of this drill press, you’re absolutely correct. Hopefully this video shows potential buyers what the packaging looks like and what comes with the drill and how to put it together. I have used this drill a lot more now and may do another short video giving my review of the product 👍🏻
@@tnabbott it’s not misleading. The title clearly states Unboxing & Assembly up front. That’s the primary goal of this video. If you are looking for an in-depth review, you should be able to find a few of those videos on RUclips as well.
I haven’t run into issues with it yet. I haven’t had to contact customer support yet though, so I cannot really comment on that. It’s definitely an entry-level tool and not a high end variant.
![SahBabii - Viking [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/D37cL92JX0I/mqdefault.jpg)
Question of the Day: What do you guys think about this drill press (or WEN in general)?? And if you use a different drill press, which do you use and what do you think is better or worse compared to this one in particular?
I work on drill presses, mostly vintage industrial models. There are currently 13 presses in my shop, six of which are mine: two Delta DP-220 (a benchtop model in superb original condition made in 1943) and a floorstander that was put together with the best parts from all the DP-220s that I've restored, a Walker-Turner 700, an essentially perfect Atlas 53 made sometime in the mid-40s, a somewhat modern Rockwell with a model number too long to recall immediately, and a 1955 Craftsman/King Steely Spacehead. All in as-new condition including the chucks, motors, and all the hardware. How does a machine like the Wen compare? It's a different world.
What do I think of Wen? As a rule of thumb, if you can lift the base out of its box with one hand, it's not a heavy duty drill press. Rigidity is paramount. I don't care for Wen's marketing campaign here on YT. It's sneaky and underhanded; someone who isn't used to the dynamic of the platform can easily fall for it. I could see the runout with the camera fairly far away. If this were mine, I'd replace the chuck. That's not cheap and an extended conversation in itself. This being said, you may be able to lessen its runout by flipping the arbor in the quill 180*. If you get an indicator/base and can measure this, there may be more you could do. Again, it's a separate conversation. The 3.125" quill travel is OK, better than ~2" found in similar consumer presses. Typically, you'd want at least 4". Could also hear some chatter in the bearings, even though the machine is relatively quiet right now. This will only get worse with time. If you use it for wood and don't have it running all day, the Wen should serve you well for many years. The runout, as an example, likely will make no difference in your projects, unlike working with metal. Good luck.
Felix F I truly appreciate your feedback! I am nowhere near as familiar with machining equipment as you seem to be and I love to learn! I do agree the WEN is not a heavy duty machine. I see it as an affordable woodworking option.
I know I would need to spend a lot more to get the level of precision you are talking about here. I would personally love to take an older more sturdy machine and bring it back to life and use it because I truly don’t think they make them like that anymore, but my own ignorance would be a hindrance there. Maybe for my next drill after this one is worn out.
Which Chuck would you suggest replacing this one with? I will definitely look into that!
Thank you once again for the input! I really love to learn all that I can and I know I am still learning with a long way to go!
@@BentleyDesignCo "Which Chuck would you suggest replacing this one with? I will definitely look into that!" Excellent thought! What price range are you comfortable with? I'm assuming that your arbor has a 33JT taper.
@@felixf5211 The manual says it's a JT3, not sure if that's the same thing as a 33JT or not. You can see the specs for this drill from the manual at about 23:25 in this video.
@@BentleyDesignCo Now that you say it, I do recall seeing that it's a 3JT. 33JT is the most common. 3JT is a pretty good size taper. That's nice. One question; did the press come with a metal wedge (ie. a drift) to remove the arbor? If this is doable, you can essentially use any chuck you want as long as its arbor terminates in a MT2. It's an opportunity to spend less on a good chuck, depending on the budget. Arbors are inexpensive. I like to use Jacobs arbors, but to tell you the truth, there isn't a functional difference between an Asian arbor and one made in the US, UK, Germany, or Japan. The price is different, that's for sure. As a FYI, typically an arbor is around $10. Jacobs arbors range from ~$15 for a used one to relatively obscene sums. Meanwhile, let me take a look at what's around with a 3JT.
Just put mine together yesterday. For those who are considering this model be aware that the table that came with mine, the shaft was too small in diameter for the collar that it fit in. Even tightening the collar to the max the table could still rotate. I probably should call wen but for now I cut 2 aluminum pop cans to surround the shaft. Increaing the diameter by .016". It would tighten then but it still nearly bottomed out the collar. See video at 8:05 or so. I really like this otherwise. It really is a great value!! Thanks for the video. Nicely done.
I don't know how I missed this comment, but thanks so much for watching! I'm sorry to hear you had issues with your press. I hope it's working smoothly for you now!
I had this issue. You have to make sure the lever goes into the right side and then it tightens up fine.
Hello! I found your video and setup up my Wen 4214 right along with you and everything worked great! Thankfully mine seemed to have perfect bit to table alignment and the laser was also spot on. However, yours being both out of alignment was actual of great help to those of us who need to make adjustments. So, it worked out well! Thank you VERY much for making this video!
Hey Gerry!
Thanks for watching!
I’m so glad it helped you out! I hope you’re enjoying the drill press!
Thank you for the video. I just got exact same model today, was putting it together and then got to the chuck installation step and was not sure I was fully understanding that step. I was like "stop" don't go any further, let's check out RUclips and see if anyone has a video on the this. I also wasn't aware you could adjust the Lazer, so again thanks for this informative video, you really helped me out.
Hey Jesse! So glad this could help you out!
I hope you love your new drill press!
Looked at several vids (and in the manual) for the laser alignment. The picture in the manual is incomprehensible and utterly vague as to just where the Allen screws are located. You showed it precisely. Good job. Thanks!
Thanks and I’m so glad to hear this helped you out!
Enjoy your new drill press!
Boxed up just like the Bucktool drill press.
@@Tclasa I haven’t heard of that brand yet. I’ll take a look 👍🏻
Just as an aside there are two allen bolts to secure the head to the tube, the one you tightened and one right above it. You may want to tighten that one too. I liked the video, this is the third unboxing I've watched and you did a pretty good job. The arbor as you called it is actually the spindle, what it goes into is called the quill, yup, like the pen. I really didn't know this before, but when I looked at the manual that I downloaded it mentions the quill and several places where the drill press is advertised also mentions it, so I did my due diligence and looked it up. Any, great video, I'm going to keep my eyes open for the rest of the review, when you start your project. I'll be interested to see how it goes. Till next time! 🖖😎
Thank so much for watching and for the very helpful input!
We are always learning :D
LOL! "I may even be uncomfortable placing the head on the column",...after holding it over your head and giving the box a Ninja kick off the top of the table while balancing on one foot? Damn kids showing off their strength & youth all over the internet! :-) Great video & information! Thanks for sharing. Subbed!
Hahaha thanks! I never stated that I make good decisions 😂
I should put a disclaimer on my videos so nobody emulates my dumb actions 🤣
Thank you so much for watching though! And for subscribing! 😊👍🏻
Can anyone tell me if the columes from the 4214 have the same diameter of the 4212 ? I like that table and I’m curious is there are interchangeable??
the wrench that you were looking at allows you to adjust the angle of the table up or down for left to right, you'll find the adjustment bolt under the table by the column ......... by the way good luck to you and your family and use it well
Batman out
Thanks so much! I finally realized what it was for afterwards hahaha!
Hope you enjoyed the video and thanks again for your well wishes 😊
Great vid. I have the exact same model and very much like it. One thing you did not mention is that the Yellow piece of the power switch comes out, and when it is out the drill will not turn on. Also for those thinking of getting this drill press, do so, but follow the directions and mount the base before you assemble the machine. I did not and in fastening it to the base I put it on the machine rolled and broke the handle that raises and lowers the table. A call to Wen and about $5 later I had a new handle so their customer service is also good.
Oh, and just subscribed to your channel
Thank you!
Yes that safety switch is a great feature!
Hitting the chuck is not a great way to secure it. The way I always did it was put something on the drill press bed which you can then bring the chuck down on it and then press it in, no need for a hammer.
That’s another good suggestion, too!
Thanks I just bought a wen 4214 that helped me a lot !!
So glad I could be of help!
10:00 there’s another bolt 2” above that should be tightened as well. The manual is missing it but it also goes to the column.
Overall it’s a decent machine. Noisy and got some excessive runout but it’s hard to complain for $270 with no tax and free shipping. Also, mine doesn’t go lower than 620 rpm.
Ah good to point that out! Thanks!
I’m enjoying my press still, too :)
Thanks a lot! I just wanted to assemble and hit your video and simply followed your video and didn't bother to look at the manual :)
I’m so glad I was able to help you out! Enjoy the drill and let me know how you end up liking it!
Thanks for the review. I bought this one around July and love it. I was worried when it arrived because the box was pretty beat up, but it was fine. I like the variable power and use it a lot when I'm working on a scroll saw project. I also used it with a 3" hole dozer when I was making Steve's Catalina wall cabinet, so I can say it will take whatever you throw at it. Hope you enjoy using yours. I'm still planning on getting that Wen air filter sometime this year.
Thanks for watching!
I fully agree with you so far! I have been using this drill press for about a month now and it has been very smooth. My box had some small tears, but like you, my drill press was in perfect condition. The variable speed has been very useful already for me. Switching from drilling through holes, to insets with forstner bits, to even cutting plugs. It makes it very easy to change the speed and keep drilling with less down time.
Let me know when you get that air filter! I just changed the filters in mine because they were covered in dust. I can't believe I was breathing that in before!
I have the same model (well, mines a 4214T whatever that means) and my box was beat up bad. The styrofoam was broken inside in multiple places. But lo and behold nothing appeared damaged, though the box looked like it took a serious fall. I also wish they'd ship it a little more inconspicuously instead displaying WEN DRILL PRESS to the world, but I guess that's one way to get your name out there.
All in all, I like the machine. I'm having trouble with my table though. I have to really torque the rear knob to keep it from moving and it's a pain that every time I raise or lower it, the table moves laterally as well. Maybe I missed a set screw somewhere?
That wrench btw is just for tightening the 3 main handles and the fourth handle for the speed adjustment. Why there's a large end on the wrench is beyond me.
Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for the video I bought my for a specific project and rushed through assembly. Would you believe I didn’t notice it came with a light and laser before watching this?.. haha
Haha glad I could help out!
The light is very nice! I turn the laser on to give me a rough estimate but then lower the bit to get exactly where I want it before turning on the drill 👍🏻
Have fun and be safe!
Hey! Nice video, I have one to and I was wondering how to stop the table from moving left and right and stay centered with the bit
Hey! Thanks for watching! You probably just need to tighten it down a little more of the table is shifting. Mine hasn’t budged since I set it.
If you have it all the way tightened down and it’s still moving, I would contact WEN customer support and see if they can give you a replacement part to stop that. 👍🏻
Bentley Design Co. ok thanks for the advice, you mean the bolt on the back of the table right? Thanks for replying so quickly and stay safe
Yup! That bolt on the back. You can see me tightening it in this video I’m pretty sure.
Thanks! You stay safe out there too!
I great video, just received mine today! Is it normal for the bit to vibrate much?
Happy for you!
Mine doesn’t vibrate that much that I can notice with my eye. However there is some small run out when drilling. You can upgrade the chuck if you need some more precision though.
Hope you enjoy! And thanks for watching! :)
Thanks looking forward to getting mine in the mail!
No problem at all! I'm glad you enjoyed it and hopefully I was able to help answer some questions you had on it.
Let me know how you end up liking it! I've been using it quite a bit on my latest project and I am so happy with it!
So, I'm curious - those of you who have one of these adjustable speed DP with the Reeves thing in the top....How does it last over time? Not sure when these came out, but also curious how well the adjustment arm stays put, and how long the belt lasts?
I haven’t really had it for any amount of time to speak to the wear n’ tear yet, but so far it’s all good.
As far as the speed staying consistent, I haven’t had any trouble at all with the lever moving or the speed changing on me.
Is the Easter Egg mis-statement that you tightened the hex head screw right below the two hex head screws that are supposed to be tightened to keep the head from rotating on the column?
Quite possibly 😂
So is the table top supposed to be able to spin freely around the column?
Yes. You just need to tighten it down when you get it lined up properly. 👍🏻
Question, Can I use brake cleaner to clean to excess oil from the parts?
I’m not sure, but I don’t see why you couldn’t. I usually wipe them or if they have an excessive amount, I use WD40.
Best of luck with your new drill!
@25:23 minutes in, I'd assume it's to assemble the floor base bolts(4 qty) just ordered this, thanks for the review
Yea, I finally realized that after filming haha! I hope you enjoy your drill! And glad I could help!
@BentleyDesignCo yes sir, thank you for the heads up in what I had to prep for. I had no issue, do to watching your video
I was hoping to see how the pulleys work for the variable speed
I haven’t looked under the hood of it yet, but I’m actually interested in that too. When I do that, I may have to post another video of it 👍🏻
Crappy wrench is for the the three bolts on the base, Nice video!
Ah! That makes sense!
I didn't even think about it and just grabbed my sockets haha!
Thanks for pointing that out! And for watching!
Several reviews that I saw said that the mounting base had an issue with one foot pad being higher then the rest & he contacted customer service & ordered another which had the same issue? Also, That the 4214 is to tall for benchtop use but, to short to be used as a floor model? Would you order it again?
I recently bought this model and it's perfect height for me on a bench. I'm 6' 0".
I'm sorry, I don't know how I missed your comment earlier :(
But my press sat perfectly steady and the height is very comfortable for me on my workbench.
You can always make a drill press cart or stand also to sit it on so you can make the height perfect for your body.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
I too as well... am excited and ignorant 😊
That’s the state I live my life in 😂
kind of late to the party but if you still have this press what is the distance between the channels on the table for mounting vise?
It‘s in an X pattern. The closest points are about 2.5” apart and the farthest points on one side are about 5.5” apart.
I hope this helps!
@@BentleyDesignCo yessir! Thanks a ton, was looking at buying this model to put a free x y table i got my hands on sadly the base is about 7 inches from channel to channel.
@@MrJaysniping glad I could help. Sorry if this press won’t work for your needs.
Thanks for watching and I hope you find one that works for you!
Hi you measured the runout angle at 90 but not from front to back .was that also 90 ?
Hi Chrisy!
I did check the front to back runout angle as well. I just didn’t show it on the video since the table was already indeed perpendicular to the bit in that direction. 👍🏻
@@BentleyDesignCo I know this is a old video but has helped me out recently. mine isn't level front to back but i don't see how I can adjust the table in that direction??
I just noticed the name on the post is Bentley design company, Bentley is on my mother's side of the family. In fact my great, great, great grandfather founded Bentleyville, PA. It would be interesting to find if we're related. 🖖😎
My side of the Bentley family came from England -> Massachusetts -> North Carolina -> Kentucky. Thomas Bentley Sr. was the first of my Bentley line to land here in America back around 1690-ish I think. Not sure if any of my kin made it up to the PA area or not honestly.
I wish that there were at least two allen head set screws that hold the drill head & motor to the column & that there were flats on the shaft or releif's
I agree that two set screws for securing the motor head to the column shaft would probably be a good idea!
I haven’t had it move or squirm on me yet, but I will definitely keep an eye out for that!
Thanks so much for your input! It really helps to think of things I may not have gotten to when I hear from you guys!
@@BentleyDesignCo There are two set screws. The second one is above the one he tightened!
When installing the chuck, Would it be beneficial to heat the chuck & cool the shaft?
I haven’t had any play in the chuck since I have installed it. It was actually difficult for me to knock lose the one time I did remove it.
However I can’t see how it would hurt. It would cause the chuck to swell and the shaft to shrink a little, which might give an even more secure fit. I’m definitely not an expert at that level (or any level haha) though! :)
I wouldn't do that. It is designed to work as is. If you did that you may never get it out again, which would make you sad if you wanted to upgrade the chuck at some point.
If you are having issues with the tapered shaft staying in place make sure it is clean of any lube, and doesn't have any bumps or burrs on it. Then give it a good smack with a mallet.
Thanks man I’m getting one.
Awesome Darryl!
So happy you enjoyed the video!
I just ordered one! Wondering if anyone has put a keyless chuck on? do you like it? worth the upgrade? or at least convenience?
Excellent! Let me know how you like it!
I have not upgraded my chick yet, but that is one of the drawbacks of this drill press, is the runout you get from the stock chuck. I have seen some options for ~$100 to replace it with, but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Let me know if you do!
@@BentleyDesignCo Hey, FYI, I got a keyless chuck ($50 amazon) The runout is 0.004" Good enough for my woodwork! Love the keyless!
@@Mogalize Awesome! Which chuck did you end up going with??
@@BentleyDesignCo From Amazon: PSI Woodworking Products TM32KL Keyless Drill Chuck with a 2 MT Mount, 1/2-Inch
@@Mogalize Thanks! I'll check it out!
Can you give me the measurements of the base. Want to shop for a rolling tool chest to mount it on.
You’re lookin at about 16” x 9.75” for the base.
Sorry it took me so long to get back to ya. I actually have it in storage at the moment because we just moved into a new house. So I had to go there and measure it.
The wrench was for you to assemble.😂 JT3 stands for Jacob's Taper 3.That's the size of the arbor that goes in the Chuck. MT2 stands for Morse Taper 2 that's the size of the arbor that goes in the quill. So ultimately you have a JT3/MT2 or also known as J3/M2 Arbor.
Yea I figured out the wrench after it was all assembled already 😆
Thanks for all the helpful info!
I hope you enjoyed watching it at least got a good laugh at me 😂
How tall is the drill from bottom to top. And how high from bottom to middle of the feed hub? Thanks!
The entire drill press is about 38” tall and it’s about 28.5” from bottom to middle of the feed hub.
Inches* that is.
Can a drill bit smaller than 1/8 be inserted into this chuck?
The capacity of the included chuck is stated to be 1/8” - 5/8” in the manual. I have not tried to use a bit outside of that range with it. But the chuck does close all the way together, so theoretically it should “fit”. I just don’t know how it would perform.
Thank you for watching!
Nice job.
Thanks Bob! Glad you enjoyed the video!
I do believe you're crappy Wrench is to take off the drill chuck separator from arbor
I think it was for the bolts on the base, but could definitely be used for multiple applications, I’m sure.
Regardless, the wrench is pretty low quality and I would advise you to use your own if you have one available.
I have a question for anybody who knows about this. How can I learn about what speed to run for different woods and different metals . Is there a chart I can access ?
I use Google when I am unsure.
images.meredith.com/wood/images/pdf/speedchart.pdf
"JT33 keyless chuck". Best $30 you can spend.
I’ve heard similar to that. Definitely something I’m going to look into!
Thanks.
My pleasure!
When you're doing your test hole and increasing the speed at 19:20, I can see some very obvious run out on the drill bit.
Yea you can definitely get a better result with an upgraded chuck. But it does a good enough job for my woodworking so far. I probably will upgrade the chuck in the near future though.
We have been moving so I haven’t gotten to do much woodworking over the last year. That’s why I haven’t uploaded anything new in a bit.
Nice video
Thank you Dave!
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Is it possible to upgrade the chuck to a keyless one??
Absolutely!
There have been a couple suggestions in the comments here you can check out.
Thanks for watching! :)
You showed that you can get it 90 degrees left and right to the table. My 4214 has a table that leans slightly forward. So - no adjustment there - the press is basically worthless... I didn't realize this until I started having issues trying to mate up knife handle scales with pins. I'm past my refund date - so now I'm having a nightmare of a time trying to shim up a vise on the table to make it 90 degrees in all directions. If I ever buy another drill press I'll go to a store and take my machinists square with me to make sure of what I'm getting. :( POS
Your box didn't look like it went through WW-2.
Haha no it was in good shape.
Was your destroyed?
@@BentleyDesignCo drill press was ok, the box didn't fare as well.
LOL!
hmm that wobble at 19:22 :(
Yea, I don’t know if this drill is great for machining right out of the box. Maybe with an update to the chuck? But for woodworking it has been doing great for me so far with intermittent use.
WTF his shaft went in further than mine ! I hope I'm not the only one to have this problem.
You should feel a positive stop to let you know it’s all the way inserted.
That's what she said.
@@frankb.3556 Beat me to it! LOL...
Why doesn’t anyone test drilling metal with Wen drill presses. If it can drill hard metals surely it can drill anything. What are you scared of?
I just bought one and waiting on it, a little concerned no one has a video of it but it does say its capable of metal in there site
Not scared of metal, I just don’t do any metalworking. I just do woodworking, but if I start doing metal projects I will try to remember to update this with the results.
The general consensus I have gotten though is that the runout may be a little much for the precision needed in metalworking. Depends on your needs, I suppose.
I've drilled metal with mine. Use the lowest speed, push down slowly and allow the bit to do the work, use lots of WD40 with good cobalt bits.
How can you review something you have not used?
It was primarily an unboxing/assembly video. With a “review” of my initial thoughts.
The main goal of this video is definitely not to give you an in-depth review of this drill press, you’re absolutely correct.
Hopefully this video shows potential buyers what the packaging looks like and what comes with the drill and how to put it together.
I have used this drill a lot more now and may do another short video giving my review of the product 👍🏻
@@BentleyDesignCo Then it's a "my initial thoughts" video. Why the misleading label of "review"?
@@tnabbott it’s not misleading. The title clearly states Unboxing & Assembly up front. That’s the primary goal of this video. If you are looking for an in-depth review, you should be able to find a few of those videos on RUclips as well.
really poor product, bad customer service. save your money
I haven’t run into issues with it yet. I haven’t had to contact customer support yet though, so I cannot really comment on that.
It’s definitely an entry-level tool and not a high end variant.