Despite what you may have heard from people trying to sell you something, war is no picnic. It is and always has been a horrific act of organized killing, an expression of humanity's worst impulses. To drive that point home, I've collaborated with a bunch of other educators to tell stories of privation, injustice, and trauma in wartime - spanning from ancient Rome to the European colonization of Africa. Check out the "War is Hell: No Matter the Era" playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLbGwg11hQxtnPCEzoUoK96DWrPWz7a1zh
“Despite what you may have heard from people trying to sell you something. . .” People trying to sell me what, never have I heard anything from anyone trying to sell me anything stating the contrary.
@@toubi4316 Pretty common really. Anything from Recruitment posters talking about the pride of serving your country and the honor of the task, to when politicians talk about how they're "Securing Democracy" and other such lofty sounding phrases as they declare (or not even declare just do it) war.
I always figured that Johnny Reb was some kind of spirit creature, an avatar of the South who represented what its people believed in and especially the idealized version of their past
Just make sure to do your own research, fact check the source, and have an unbiased look on the subject he is talking about. Even though Atun does amazing research and compelling narratives, one has to do there own research to understand to subject fully. I majored in history and this was always reminded on us to do this step. I think Atun and many historians would agree the same if they had a huge following. Cheers
If you don't mind me asking, what country are you from and what's your general opinion of America and American history? It's always interesting to get a perspective from the outside.
@@kommi7658 I'm from Canada and my opinion on the US is mixed for various reasons. As a Canadian, it's part of our identity to dislike the States and hold ourselves as if we are better than them, and focus on what makes us different to make up for how similar we are. My opinion is neutral because the US had done a lot for Canada, but also the modern US is a bit of a mess, though so is Canada to be perfectly honest. American history interests me because much of what happens in American history also has effects on Canada and we aren't taught these things in school. Atun-Shei is how I learned that King Philip's War even happened.
I would advise you to learn from other sources. Don't get me wrong atun shei is good but only for one side. He is biased so relying on him isn't the best if you want a full picture. I myself prefer more neutral sources but hey, you do you.
This is amazingly timed. I’m just finishing up my history thesis on the conflict between Narragansett sachem Miantonomo and Mohegan sachem Uncas right after the Pequot war. It’s an amazingly fascinating time period that doesn’t get nearly enough attention. Cheers to you, Atun-Shei!
I would be very interested in reading your thesis. I live in RI and have been to most of the Pequot/KP war sites. And you are correct; a time that recieves little/no attention from history
You'd think this war would be exhaustively covered by historians already, but the new discoveries presented in "Our Beloved Kin" seem to have proven that wrong...
@@yrobtsvt there was no political incentive to keep note of this particular history History is written by the winners, but they also choose the history that doesn't get written
Thanks so much for going into the uglier parts of war. You've been a massive inspiration on me as someone who is majoring in history and has a passion for storytelling and film. Keep up the amazing work.
Speaking of the uglier side of war, I recall a comment referring to his video on King Phillip’s War calling him a “Marxist historical revisionist” who “smeared the past of our ancestors” or something to that effect. And hell, there was also another on that talked about how disgusting and repulsive Atun-Shei was for decrying the old heroes. God the internet is stupid and I love it
@@russianbear7832 people calling each other names over the internet isn't an ugly side of war, wut? You see insufferable people at both sides of the political spectrum on this channel
@@AdamOwenBrowning I wasn’t calling that the uglier side of war, I was calling King Philip’s War the uglier side of war. The point was that the people screeching and seething that Atun Shei dare say it led to bad outcomes were the people unable to face the ugly side of war and prefer to latch on to comforting fairytales. Also because it was stupid and I love it
As someone born and raised from 400 years of poor working class rural Massachusetts stock, this video deeply hits home. We always felt like the rich big city folks treated us "Swampyankees" like trash, and that we were either disposable, or in the way of their grand plans. The information in this video proves this sentiment has been the case for a very very long time.
As a life-long, lower class Massachusetts Swamp Yankee, this video explains a lot. I've always thought my self-proclaimed social betters wanted to corral me and drop me off somewhere in Worcester County to be rid of me. Some habits die hard, no?
I’m a huge fan of your “Checkmate Lincolnites” series and admittedly when I clicked on this video, I didn’t really expect to watch more than a minute or two. But there is something about the way you tell stories that just enthralls and entrances. Sure enough I came to the end of the video and thought to myself “Oh that’s all? I could have listened for another hour!” 🙂👍🏼
Atun Shei has been making" war is hell" type videos since fixing gettysburg but the real morning reville is having all these youtubers upload all at the same time.
I mean literally everyone who came to America from Europe to some extent took part in what would later be Manifest Destiny. Either you came to settle the frontier or you helped fuel other's expansion.
to quote a wise man "I'm not responsible for my ancestors atrocities, but I am responsiable if I cover up or hide the atrocities they do." I find it a comforoting and good quote when dealing with my ancestors.
I have been very hyped for this collaboration. I already follow Brandon and the Shogunate. And Atun-Shei is the GOAT of EduTube! Great introduction to other creators and educators!
@@TheFallofRome I follow lots of the channels in the Collab and I watched yours first. A lot of your vids appear on a Playlist I send coworkers when they ask how I know so much about history. Talked about how the Fall of Rome wasn't really a thing the way people think it is for about an hour last week.
As a native of Marblehead and Essex County at large, this video was FASCINATING to watch. It's not often that you get people well versed in this subject matter speaking on a relatively layman level. Thank you for this lesson! PS: Legend tells that Marblehead's first resident was a social outcast of Salem, a drunkard who lived in a barrel. Things haven't changed much since then...
I'm currently dealing with winter depression in Ireland and for the last 3 days I've been watching your videos. I just came home from work and you dropped a new video. Thank you so much ❤️
As someone who isn't American it's rare to find a history channel that doesn't pander to one side or the other when it comes to American history. Can't say I'd heard of King Philip's war anywhere apart from this channel either. Also, drafting the poor into war seems to be a global tradition. In any army it's usually the poor and the rural poor at it who make up the bulk. However the American version of it is stunning. I met a Vietnam veteran once whose main love of India stemmed from cheap weed and water buffalo meat that he had gotten in his time in Vietnam freaking out at the foliage and aiding and abetting war crimes. It seems korma is a cheap alternative to having friends at that age. 'Its a rich man's war but a poor man's fight'. It always has been.
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@@petlahk4119 i dont know or maybe im being totaly in the wrong but my thoughts went for karma he ment rather but got misspelled...then again i assume only not real clue actually unfortunely tho...
@@billdehappy1 i am not sure which language that is my friend, but I'm named after the King of Kings of the Kushan dynasty. He was a greater man than I'll ever be. My parents were massive nerds so they liked the name.
I can't think of anything more clever to say than "I love your work, keep it up". Thank you, especially for CHECKMATE, but all of your stuff is just gold.
I live in Massachusetts and I only hear about this from you. This is saddening. Also it's a little bit weird to be so familiar with all of the locations mentioned because they don't get talked about a whole heck of a lot. So it's funny to hear all of these names and go, "I know that place!"
I love your content covering the early American colonies! I never learned even a quarter of the religious and social context surrounding the colonies you provide in your videos, and the information I've learned here has really shone a new light on the history of the US for me. Thank you for sharing your interests with us all!
Love the idea of this collab. can't wait to check out some other cool history videos! To the folks who are just finding this channel now, stick around, they're really almost all at least this good!
Can confirm. Recommend his other videos on King Philip's War for more on this period, the VVitchfinder General, his ongoing Leif Erikson Day video series, and especially the Checkmate Lincolnites series.
I love the work you have done King Phillips War. I never heard of it prior to your materials and i feel like it adds a lot of context to the colonial narrative that gets left out of standard education.
I actually got my minor field specialty in US religious history of the early republic in my masters program so thanks for discussing this you have been fun to watch through my 5.5 years of college
Worcester County transplant here. So happy to here about the region that became my adoptive home for so many years. My high school is named after the Nipmuck mountain in the area and one of the nearby towns is where Mary Rowlandson was released. Also, the Zelner book is really good. So happy for you to mention this, Andy!
Hey I’m from New Bedford, MA; so seeing rare local history be portrayed in such an entertaining and captivating, rather than a monotonous droning documentary; way is a breath of fresh air! Thank you Atun-Shei, I love your content - my personal favorite character is the VVitchfinder General. Hope you have a good Christmas!
I moved to MA from Israel in the middle of fourth grade, and I've learned more in passing from some of your random videos about the history of this State than I did from 8 years of schooling.
Nice one! Perfect post-Thanksgiving video. Speaking of conspiracies, I seem to recall that some of the accused in Salem had land coveted by powerful neighbors.
Awesome video. Growing up on the Great Plains, King Phillip’s war was just a blip in history texts, so it’s cool to learn about this. Plus this shows nothing changes. It seems as if throughout American history we’ve more or less drafted people who don’t want to fight into the war and it’s hard in this one not to see parallels with America home front during the Vietnam War. One last aside too. It makes sense as they needed cattle for beef and leather but I always forget New England would have had a significant cattle industry for the time. This is much later but in the ranching areas of Nebraska, Wyoming and the Dakotas, a number of the first ranchers were part of the New England and mid-Atlantic upper crust. While they didn’t quite take the full on religious aspect with them, it’s interesting how in a way they continued on this tradition and basically continued with such commercial ventures, though by the 1880s it was the high plains and not the woods of New England.
Shout out to you atun-shei for educating me past the lost cause myths which I truly believed in growing up in Louisana to now where I get to learn about stuff I never knew about. I hope one day to bump into you in NOLA so I can say hi
It wouldn't be the last time this happened. In the Vietnam War, there was also an effort made by the high-ups including McNamara to send as many undesirable men from the least prosperous parts of the country to the front lines as possible. Some things never change.
I'm Brazilian, so it is not "my history", but I do love the way people like Atun-shei and Knowing Better can make American History extremely interesting, be it in the more commonly known events or the more specific ones. It's like BBC documentaries on British History, they have a knack for creating narratives and making us see the humanity in other people (and peoples). I wish historians here in Brazil did the same! Our historians tend to be TERRIBLY academic and dry (oh, boy, SO MUCH repetition, such impersonal tones and long winded phrases!) and most "documentaries" are either terribly nationalistic, myopic and sugar coated or carry pretty outdated information (in the year of our lord 2021, a Brazilian "educational" show stated that Medieval peasants didn't bathe and that women in Europe were always fainting during the 19th Century because it is impossible to breath while wearing a corset, which are misconceptions that had been cleared out since what, the 1980s?).
It’s always great to hear this history as someone from the area. I can say that while North Andover still has that patrician air of old money, the formerly less desirable southern Andover now has a nouveau riche desperate housewives vibe
Amazing work, you do a great work with these narrations and allow me to say it, your work has been of amazing quality in the past few years. Thanks for the entertaining delivery of these education gems
Something I learned recently, thanks to my Uncle who has devoted 20+ years to compiling my family's ancestry, is I have not one but three ancestors who arrived aboard the Mayflower.
Another great one, also I see you moved it inside and dressed the part including background.Its a great day today for you to be out making the next one can't wait.
I am a descendant of one of the English Colonists killed in this conflict. As I also have Iroquois blood on the same side of my family, the entire slaughter seems pointless to me. I feel for all involved, and I take both perspectives into account every time I hear about the “Indian Wars”.
I'm in a similar situation. Sioux on my mom's side, meanwhile one of my dad's ancestors was like, the best doctor in the whole colony around the time of King Philip's War.
Are you a US man?If so,the slaughter seems pointless to you because you reap the benefits of these wars of expansion.I'm pretty sure if you were an almost poor man that had just arrived from England,you wouldn't mind ''dispatching'' some natives to make your farm on their land.
Most Americans have no clue about the period from Plymouth Rock to the Revolution, the era that shaped what was to come. Thank you very much for your attention to this oft overlooked history. Great, great video. BTW, another great story is how George Burroughs, a minister, ran afoul of the powerful Putnam family of Salem (Danvers now) and ended up hung as a witch despite being under the protection of the Wheelwright family of Wells, Maine. Dirty Deeds done dirt cheap.
"There is no intensity of love or feeling that does not involve the risk of crippling hurt. It is a duty to take this risk, to love and feel without defense or reserve." - William S. Burroughs
I used to keep them on all my hardcover books until my wife got a baby rabbit and litter trained it so it could have free run of the house. Little known fact, but rabbits are related to mountain goats and love to climb, plus they hate dust covers so she tore them off all the books. Now, it just looks weird to have a book with a dust cover next to stacks of them without.
Yup, In Defense of Puritanism is indeed an outstanding documentary, in terms of information, storytelling as well as style. This one's interesting as well, I've absolutely grown to love this channel.
You just broke my heart with that throwing away the dust covers line. I run a used bookstore Sometimes the jacket is the only thing that's valuable on an old book. I won't even buy hardcovers that aren't at least 40 years old, unless they come with the dust covers. You ruin the resale value. Please, put the dust cover in a drawer and, when you're done reading the book recover it and put it on the shelf. There's no legit reason to toss your dust covers.
The dust cover seriously gets in the way though...and it doesn't survive well when I am actively reading the book. As to resale...why on earth would I sell my books? That's like selling my children...not going to happen... ;)
It's so common for people to just say conspiracy when they actually mean conspiracy theory that at first I wasn't sure which of the two this video was going to be about.
Yeaaasss... feed me more of that sweet, sweet 17th century colonial American history numnumnumnum. But seriously, please give us more of these stories from the early colonial period, everything that I learned in school about this period can be summed up with Saint Augustin, Jamestown, Plymouth Rock, first Thanksgiving, and then we go straight to the Stamp Act with nothing in-between.
The impressement element apears highly topical given what is going on in Russia at the moment. As always, a well researched and highly informative post.
Atun-Shei have you read the new novel by Robert Harris set in Puritan New England? It’s called Act of oblivion. It came out this year. I think you might enjoy it. It deals with two regicides who escape England after the restoration and have to hide among the puritans of New England (king Philip’s war is even mentioned).
I recently read Peter Guardino's "The Dead March" about the Mexican-American War with a focus on the perspectives of the common people (on both sides!). He spends considerable time covering how the Mexican Regular forces were recruited through conscription, and it's basically the same as you describe: local leaders filled quotas by selecting the "undesirables" of the community. So I wonder if this practice was fairly common throughout history. The Dead March is a good read if your interested in the subject, and the author goes into the reasons why they chose such people -- for example the Mexican economy was so poor, that the government couldn't afford to pay, or even feed, its soldiers regularly, and there was basically no way a soldier could support a family. Anyway, another great video. Keep up the good work!
Drafting "undesirables" for military service and having Officers in their positions due to societal status was pretty common at the time. And still occurs today, albeit to a lesser extent.
I've never heard of this but it doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise me that they conducted impressment the same as we do today and the fact that I've never heard of it. Thank you. Very well done.
I’ve spend nearly two decades of my life serving my country, and have a dozen deployments behind me - and while there sometimes are well founded rationales for going to war - it’s never pretty! Most of my deployments has been about trying to limit wars from escalating - but I've sadly seen first hand the results of humans worst side!
@@uncleobscurenobody8861 Let me guess, you have absolutely ZERO experience! You do realize there's something called PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS!? Where we actually did try to limit conflicts from escalating!
@@gorillaguerillaDK So why do some countries get to "keep the peace" and others get peacekept? Why does the US get to have military bases in dozens of sovereign nations? Funny how US corporations, loggers, mining companies, oil companies (and nowadays Chinese companies) all seem to follow up on "peacekeeping", isn't it? Almost as if military interventions are done to control and bully other countries and hold up their corrupt elites so that exploitation and poverty can continue
Soldiers of every empire in history up to the US, Russia, China, all think like this. "Dominating and murdering people is wrong and sad, but when WE do it we are just trying to keep the peace!" Look at the pathetic excuses British soldiers made in their imperial conquests
@@uncleobscurenobody8861 Sadly it’s quite clear that you have absolutely no comprehension about what Peacekeeping means in a international context! And it’s quite saddening that you don’t, because you actually do reflect on some very interesting and valid points, on how military interventions can be, and in the past often has been, used! What you talk about will always be a threat towards International Peacekeeping Operations, and those who don’t want Peacekeeping Operations to happen will often attempt to spin such narratives, no matter if it’s true or not! However, the missions I talk about hasn’t been based on the wish of just a single country, but for the most part, they’ve been mandated by the UN! Yes, some of my deployments has been lead by NATO, but on a mandate from the UN! Back in the 90's the Balkan region was going up in flames as the former Yugoslavia was breaking apart! Maybe you’ve seen pictures from some of the concentration camps the Serbs build, as they are often mistaken for pictures from the Holocaust, with people looking like something from a "living dead" movie. It was bloody terrible, and to stop it, the UN decided to intervene with Peacekeepers, (like they had done elsewhere prior to then). I ended up taking nearly two tours with UNPROFOR, and I was on patrol south east of Tuzla when the first refugees from Srebrenica started pouring in to our zone with Serbian, (aided by Russian Orthodox "Crusaders/volunteers), Militias hot on their tail. We literally had to put us self in between the refugees and those Serb Militiamen to ensure the safety of the refugees! A year earlier while I was home after my first deployment, the Serbs had attempted to force us, (NORDBAT2), to abandon the UNPROFOR safe zone at Tuzla or at least stand down, just as they later forced DUTCHBAT to do at Screbrenica, but it ended bad for the Serbs, because while UNPROFOR HQ denied DANBAT2 much needed air support, like they also did to DUTCHBAT the next year - our soldiers actually had the firepower to protect our zone! (And they did so very effectively). So maybe that was the reason to why most of the Serbs wasn’t happy about the idea of attacking us directly when we put us selves in between them and the refugees… However, after Srebrenica it became quite obvious that the UN mandate for UNPROFOR was to weak, and we was pulled out, only to return again shortly after on a UN mandated NATO lead International mission, (IFOR, and then SFOR - and I did a tour with both). I’ve also done two deployments with KFOR, again a International NATO lead mission under mandate from the UN! I also took part in ALBA, AFOR, Amber Fox, and had a few other short term deployments!! I can’t say we've been successful in everything I've taken part in, but the reality of these missions were so far from the context you tried to frame peacekeeping operations within! Yes, there was at times various "national interests" that did complicate matters a lot, but it’s very rarely that it’s the issues that get mentioned now, because there’s bonkers people who are trying to frame the entire period differently today! Both due to ignorance, and because they like some made up versions better! Now .I could go on and start telling you a lot more about each of the deployments I’ve been on, but as long s you don’t know about the most basic shit like how mandates function and how it influence the abilities to make genuine peacekeeping efforts - then it’s probably just a huge waste of time! All that being said. I don’t disagree that certain kinds of "peacekeeping missions can be serious problematic - especially those where a single nation decides to invade sovereign neighboring countries under the guise of it being peacekeeping….
As someone who lives in Connecticut, pretty close to Mystic, your videos have taught a whole lot. Of course we are taught about it in schools, but nowhere near the eloquency or style of yours.
You bring up an important point: Just because one fights in a war he is not evil if he is on your enemies side. Conscription and drafts can bring anyone into a war.
French inventor Augustine Mouchot created the first solar power system in the 1860s and 70s. It used an bowl shaped array of mirrors to focus sunlight on a central boile to drive a steam engine.
Yo man, Have you heard the tale of the native chief Squando on the Saco River Who joined King Phillips War when his wife and child were drowned when a drunken English settler overturned their canoe?
Despite what you may have heard from people trying to sell you something, war is no picnic. It is and always has been a horrific act of organized killing, an expression of humanity's worst impulses. To drive that point home, I've collaborated with a bunch of other educators to tell stories of privation, injustice, and trauma in wartime - spanning from ancient Rome to the European colonization of Africa. Check out the "War is Hell: No Matter the Era" playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLbGwg11hQxtnPCEzoUoK96DWrPWz7a1zh
@@hungerhighway1973 What
“Despite what you may have heard from people trying to sell you something. . .”
People trying to sell me what, never have I heard anything from anyone trying to sell me anything stating the contrary.
@@toubi4316 Pretty common really. Anything from Recruitment posters talking about the pride of serving your country and the honor of the task, to when politicians talk about how they're "Securing Democracy" and other such lofty sounding phrases as they declare (or not even declare just do it) war.
If someone tells you war *involves* a lot of picnics, though, that's real. You go to war, expect to have at least a few outdoor meals.
@@hitomisalazar4073 it's still an honor to serve your country
Seeing Atun-Shei doing a video on King Philip’s War is like bumping into an old friend you haven’t seen for ages. Just feels right, ya know?
Was thinking the same thing but you expressed it better than I would have.
It’s a Puritan version of macknamaras 100000
@@cajunguy6502 Projecting much?
Said it perfectly my man
@@lurkenvoncurken518congratulations, you found the joke! Want a cookie?
At the beginning, he forgot "The CIA resurrecting Johnny Reb to forever argue with Billy Yank."
And Klaus helping them out
I always figured that Johnny Reb was some kind of spirit creature, an avatar of the South who represented what its people believed in and especially the idealized version of their past
@@weldonwin Maybe, but he's also been possessed by Klaus, and the pilot version of Johnny Reb got shot.
@@weldonwin And Billy Yank is some dude who is so done with his bullshit
@@amandahealey2216 nah it was Hans but he fucked up and caused the us join the war when he was caught in Mexico
As a Non-American, I have found that Atun-Shei's video's are the best source of American history knowledge anywhere on the internet.
As an American, I agree
Just make sure to do your own research, fact check the source, and have an unbiased look on the subject he is talking about.
Even though Atun does amazing research and compelling narratives, one has to do there own research to understand to subject fully. I majored in history and this was always reminded on us to do this step.
I think Atun and many historians would agree the same if they had a huge following.
Cheers
If you don't mind me asking, what country are you from and what's your general opinion of America and American history? It's always interesting to get a perspective from the outside.
@@kommi7658 I'm from Canada and my opinion on the US is mixed for various reasons. As a Canadian, it's part of our identity to dislike the States and hold ourselves as if we are better than them, and focus on what makes us different to make up for how similar we are. My opinion is neutral because the US had done a lot for Canada, but also the modern US is a bit of a mess, though so is Canada to be perfectly honest.
American history interests me because much of what happens in American history also has effects on Canada and we aren't taught these things in school. Atun-Shei is how I learned that King Philip's War even happened.
I would advise you to learn from other sources.
Don't get me wrong atun shei is good but only for one side.
He is biased so relying on him isn't the best if you want a full picture.
I myself prefer more neutral sources but hey, you do you.
This is amazingly timed. I’m just finishing up my history thesis on the conflict between Narragansett sachem Miantonomo and Mohegan sachem Uncas right after the Pequot war. It’s an amazingly fascinating time period that doesn’t get nearly enough attention. Cheers to you, Atun-Shei!
This man is an acedemic historian by day and makes minecraft server roleplay history videos by night, actual legend
I see you're a man of culture
I would be very interested in reading your thesis. I live in RI and have been to most of the Pequot/KP war sites. And you are correct; a time that recieves little/no attention from history
You'd think this war would be exhaustively covered by historians already, but the new discoveries presented in "Our Beloved Kin" seem to have proven that wrong...
@@yrobtsvt there was no political incentive to keep note of this particular history
History is written by the winners, but they also choose the history that doesn't get written
Thanks so much for going into the uglier parts of war. You've been a massive inspiration on me as someone who is majoring in history and has a passion for storytelling and film. Keep up the amazing work.
Speaking of the uglier side of war, I recall a comment referring to his video on King Phillip’s War calling him a “Marxist historical revisionist” who “smeared the past of our ancestors” or something to that effect. And hell, there was also another on that talked about how disgusting and repulsive Atun-Shei was for decrying the old heroes.
God the internet is stupid and I love it
@@russianbear7832 people calling each other names over the internet isn't an ugly side of war, wut? You see insufferable people at both sides of the political spectrum on this channel
@@AdamOwenBrowning I wasn’t calling that the uglier side of war, I was calling King Philip’s War the uglier side of war. The point was that the people screeching and seething that Atun Shei dare say it led to bad outcomes were the people unable to face the ugly side of war and prefer to latch on to comforting fairytales.
Also because it was stupid and I love it
@@russianbear7832 You had a terrible rambling comment that made little sense in relation to the comment and context, lol
As someone born and raised from 400 years of poor working class rural Massachusetts stock, this video deeply hits home.
We always felt like the rich big city folks treated us "Swampyankees" like trash, and that we were either disposable, or in the way of their grand plans. The information in this video proves this sentiment has been the case for a very very long time.
As a life-long, lower class Massachusetts Swamp Yankee, this video explains a lot. I've always thought my self-proclaimed social betters wanted to corral me and drop me off somewhere in Worcester County to be rid of me. Some habits die hard, no?
As a fellow Swampyankee, you are spot friggin on!
The city Massholes think of us as disposable, or in the way!
I’m a huge fan of your “Checkmate Lincolnites” series and admittedly when I clicked on this video, I didn’t really expect to watch more than a minute or two. But there is something about the way you tell stories that just enthralls and entrances. Sure enough I came to the end of the video and thought to myself “Oh that’s all? I could have listened for another hour!”
🙂👍🏼
Atun Shei has been making" war is hell" type videos since fixing gettysburg but the real morning reville is having all these youtubers upload all at the same time.
Having family who were on the mayflower went from being a fun little factoid to being like having family who left Germany in 1946 incredibly fast.
I mean literally everyone who came to America from Europe to some extent took part in what would later be Manifest Destiny. Either you came to settle the frontier or you helped fuel other's expansion.
Turns out that the old Puritan / Biblical adage, "...there is none righteous. No, not one..." Has practical application...
to quote a wise man "I'm not responsible for my ancestors atrocities, but I am responsiable if I cover up or hide the atrocities they do." I find it a comforoting and good quote when dealing with my ancestors.
It's just that we know about those people. I am sure you would find warcrimes in most ancestrys
@@funnseeker8494 you are responsible if you enjoy the fruits of their theft though.
I have been very hyped for this collaboration. I already follow Brandon and the Shogunate. And Atun-Shei is the GOAT of EduTube! Great introduction to other creators and educators!
I hope you like late Roman history!
@@TheFallofRome I follow lots of the channels in the Collab and I watched yours first. A lot of your vids appear on a Playlist I send coworkers when they ask how I know so much about history. Talked about how the Fall of Rome wasn't really a thing the way people think it is for about an hour last week.
As a native of Marblehead and Essex County at large, this video was FASCINATING to watch. It's not often that you get people well versed in this subject matter speaking on a relatively layman level. Thank you for this lesson!
PS: Legend tells that Marblehead's first resident was a social outcast of Salem, a drunkard who lived in a barrel. Things haven't changed much since then...
I'm currently dealing with winter depression in Ireland and for the last 3 days I've been watching your videos.
I just came home from work and you dropped a new video. Thank you so much ❤️
As someone who grew up in almost every area in Massachusetts this story concerns, this is some fascinating and depressing history.
The best part about Atun Shei uploads is that you always learn something that you knew absolutely god damned nothing about before
As someone who isn't American it's rare to find a history channel that doesn't pander to one side or the other when it comes to American history. Can't say I'd heard of King Philip's war anywhere apart from this channel either.
Also, drafting the poor into war seems to be a global tradition. In any army it's usually the poor and the rural poor at it who make up the bulk.
However the American version of it is stunning. I met a Vietnam veteran once whose main love of India stemmed from cheap weed and water buffalo meat that he had gotten in his time in Vietnam freaking out at the foliage and aiding and abetting war crimes.
It seems korma is a cheap alternative to having friends at that age. 'Its a rich man's war but a poor man's fight'. It always has been.
"It seems korma is a cheap alternative to having friends at that age."
Like... the food, korma? Wanna make sure I'm reading this sentence right.
kamar to baro Kanishka maharaja rajadiharaja devaputra, sastot kamar to baro kushana ninna sassaro indo-ariyan mannush aven rajastan taj punjabi pala tradra an duro droma angla evropa sastot jekh nomad sastot jekh indo-ariyan raja ava eurasian steppes ashar Saka rauaka kamar to india
@@petlahk4119 i dont know or maybe im being totaly in the wrong but my thoughts went for karma he ment rather but got misspelled...then again i assume only not real clue actually unfortunely tho...
@@petlahk4119 yeah, korma. Made from buffalo meat. He really liked it.
NGL, i like it too.
@@billdehappy1 i am not sure which language that is my friend, but I'm named after the King of Kings of the Kushan dynasty. He was a greater man than I'll ever be.
My parents were massive nerds so they liked the name.
I can't think of anything more clever to say than "I love your work, keep it up". Thank you, especially for CHECKMATE, but all of your stuff is just gold.
I live in Massachusetts and I only hear about this from you. This is saddening. Also it's a little bit weird to be so familiar with all of the locations mentioned because they don't get talked about a whole heck of a lot. So it's funny to hear all of these names and go, "I know that place!"
Come to the National Day of Mourning on the same day as Thanksgiving in Plymouth every year!
I love your content covering the early American colonies! I never learned even a quarter of the religious and social context surrounding the colonies you provide in your videos, and the information I've learned here has really shone a new light on the history of the US for me. Thank you for sharing your interests with us all!
glad to see a return to King Philip's War after strengthening your craft over the years
Love the idea of this collab. can't wait to check out some other cool history videos! To the folks who are just finding this channel now, stick around, they're really almost all at least this good!
Can confirm. Recommend his other videos on King Philip's War for more on this period, the VVitchfinder General, his ongoing Leif Erikson Day video series, and especially the Checkmate Lincolnites series.
I love the work you have done King Phillips War. I never heard of it prior to your materials and i feel like it adds a lot of context to the colonial narrative that gets left out of standard education.
Literally just recommended your channel to somebody. This must be my reward
Watching your videos feels like having a refreshing conversation about history with a friend.
I actually got my minor field specialty in US religious history of the early republic in my masters program so thanks for discussing this you have been fun to watch through my 5.5 years of college
Worcester County transplant here. So happy to here about the region that became my adoptive home for so many years. My high school is named after the Nipmuck mountain in the area and one of the nearby towns is where Mary Rowlandson was released.
Also, the Zelner book is really good. So happy for you to mention this, Andy!
Came for the Checkmate Lincolnites and Klaus lore; stayed for the handsome boye talking about Philip's War.
Hey I’m from New Bedford, MA; so seeing rare local history be portrayed in such an entertaining and captivating, rather than a monotonous droning documentary; way is a breath of fresh air! Thank you Atun-Shei, I love your content - my personal favorite character is the VVitchfinder General. Hope you have a good Christmas!
I moved to MA from Israel in the middle of fourth grade, and I've learned more in passing from some of your random videos about the history of this State than I did from 8 years of schooling.
American Education is meant to indoctrinate us, not educate us.
Nice one! Perfect post-Thanksgiving video. Speaking of conspiracies, I seem to recall that some of the accused in Salem had land coveted by powerful neighbors.
Awesome video. Growing up on the Great Plains, King Phillip’s war was just a blip in history texts, so it’s cool to learn about this. Plus this shows nothing changes. It seems as if throughout American history we’ve more or less drafted people who don’t want to fight into the war and it’s hard in this one not to see parallels with America home front during the Vietnam War.
One last aside too. It makes sense as they needed cattle for beef and leather but I always forget New England would have had a significant cattle industry for the time. This is much later but in the ranching areas of Nebraska, Wyoming and the Dakotas, a number of the first ranchers were part of the New England and mid-Atlantic upper crust. While they didn’t quite take the full on religious aspect with them, it’s interesting how in a way they continued on this tradition and basically continued with such commercial ventures, though by the 1880s it was the high plains and not the woods of New England.
Shout out to you atun-shei for educating me past the lost cause myths which I truly believed in growing up in Louisana to now where I get to learn about stuff I never knew about. I hope one day to bump into you in NOLA so I can say hi
It wouldn't be the last time this happened. In the Vietnam War, there was also an effort made by the high-ups including McNamara to send as many undesirable men from the least prosperous parts of the country to the front lines as possible. Some things never change.
0:53 and the CIA, Making Atun Shei Films magically disappear after mentioning everything the CIA did!
Also I agree, I hate dust covers, they suck and make the book look less cool
I'm Brazilian, so it is not "my history", but I do love the way people like Atun-shei and Knowing Better can make American History extremely interesting, be it in the more commonly known events or the more specific ones.
It's like BBC documentaries on British History, they have a knack for creating narratives and making us see the humanity in other people (and peoples).
I wish historians here in Brazil did the same!
Our historians tend to be TERRIBLY academic and dry (oh, boy, SO MUCH repetition, such impersonal tones and long winded phrases!) and most "documentaries" are either terribly nationalistic, myopic and sugar coated or carry pretty outdated information (in the year of our lord 2021, a Brazilian "educational" show stated that Medieval peasants didn't bathe and that women in Europe were always fainting during the 19th Century because it is impossible to breath while wearing a corset, which are misconceptions that had been cleared out since what, the 1980s?).
😂can’t even get accurate history in brazil. LOL.
It’s always great to hear this history as someone from the area. I can say that while North Andover still has that patrician air of old money, the formerly less desirable southern Andover now has a nouveau riche desperate housewives vibe
Honestly, I’m happy that I am now able to learn about the King Philips War at a early age instead of later.
Amazing work, you do a great work with these narrations and allow me to say it, your work has been of amazing quality in the past few years. Thanks for the entertaining delivery of these education gems
The fact that you toss the dust covers instantly made me subscribe.
Good way to end the year with a atun shei films doing a video on king Philip’s war and collab no less
Something I learned recently, thanks to my Uncle who has devoted 20+ years to compiling my family's ancestry, is I have not one but three ancestors who arrived aboard the Mayflower.
12:30 "that guy's dripping too hard! force him to go to war!"
That was really fucking petty of then
Always love your 16th/17th century American history videos
Nice a new atun-shei video!
Ooh, King Philips War. Always interested in this war.
Another great one, also I see you moved it inside and dressed the part including background.Its a great day today for you to be out making the next one can't wait.
Well done covering King Phillip’s war. You have missed some things but you corrected them in your other videos.
As an Andover native, it was fascinating to hear the snippet on the town’s geographic and social divides in the context of conscription.
Eastern CT native here. Fascinating video on this time period as always.
I love your channel I am descendant of the Warren family straight from the Mayflower. I love listening to the stories. Keep up the great work.
Another great vid!
I am a descendant of one of the English Colonists killed in this conflict. As I also have Iroquois blood on the same side of my family, the entire slaughter seems pointless to me. I feel for all involved, and I take both perspectives into account every time I hear about the “Indian Wars”.
I'm in a similar situation. Sioux on my mom's side, meanwhile one of my dad's ancestors was like, the best doctor in the whole colony around the time of King Philip's War.
Are you a US man?If so,the slaughter seems pointless to you because you reap the benefits of these wars of expansion.I'm pretty sure if you were an almost poor man that had just arrived from England,you wouldn't mind ''dispatching'' some natives to make your farm on their land.
@@KermitTheGamer21 found out my 1st cousin is Benjamin Church
Most Americans have no clue about the period from Plymouth Rock to the Revolution, the era that shaped what was to come. Thank you very much for your attention to this oft overlooked history. Great, great video.
BTW, another great story is how George Burroughs, a minister, ran afoul of the powerful Putnam family of Salem (Danvers now) and ended up hung as a witch despite being under the protection of the Wheelwright family of Wells, Maine. Dirty Deeds done dirt cheap.
"There is no intensity of love or feeling that does not involve the risk of crippling hurt. It is a duty to take this risk, to love and feel without defense or reserve." - William S. Burroughs
Finally, someone else who hates dust covers/book jackets as much as I do.
I used to keep them on all my hardcover books until my wife got a baby rabbit and litter trained it so it could have free run of the house. Little known fact, but rabbits are related to mountain goats and love to climb, plus they hate dust covers so she tore them off all the books. Now, it just looks weird to have a book with a dust cover next to stacks of them without.
Yup, In Defense of Puritanism is indeed an outstanding documentary, in terms of information, storytelling as well as style. This one's interesting as well, I've absolutely grown to love this channel.
Very impressive! Keep up the good work.
Very good job Atun Shei!
Atun-Shei has the same passion for King Phillips war as a 16 year old loves WWII and I love it
Now hoping for a scene in the Sudbury Devil where around a campfire where people discuss the cad Samuel Mosley
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@@AtunSheiFilms OMG noticed by papa
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Hello, Mister Atun-Shei.
Fascinating.
That war sounds like an exception to the general rule that the best place to be in a war is in the army.
I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this; the detailed impressment records really add to the story!
I recently learned about the term "breadtuber" and I'm center right, but you're a fucking awesome and informative channel. Love what you do!!!
NO! War is war and Hell is Hell. One is the worst experience you'll ever endure, the other is Hell.
You just broke my heart with that throwing away the dust covers line.
I run a used bookstore
Sometimes the jacket is the only thing that's valuable on an old book. I won't even buy hardcovers that aren't at least 40 years old, unless they come with the dust covers. You ruin the resale value.
Please, put the dust cover in a drawer and, when you're done reading the book recover it and put it on the shelf.
There's no legit reason to toss your dust covers.
That's wild, why is that the case? Like an old book still has all it's contents...
The dust cover seriously gets in the way though...and it doesn't survive well when I am actively reading the book.
As to resale...why on earth would I sell my books? That's like selling my children...not going to happen...
;)
Bookcels seeth at chad dustcover haters
the legit reason is not wanting it
I am with Andy here. Dust covers are annoying. I have a bunch in a box somewhere.
It's so common for people to just say conspiracy when they actually mean conspiracy theory that at first I wasn't sure which of the two this video was going to be about.
Yeaaasss... feed me more of that sweet, sweet 17th century colonial American history numnumnumnum.
But seriously, please give us more of these stories from the early colonial period, everything that I learned in school about this period can be summed up with Saint Augustin, Jamestown, Plymouth Rock, first Thanksgiving, and then we go straight to the Stamp Act with nothing in-between.
Outstanding as always. Thank you so much!
It’s nice to know I’m not the only one who throws away the dust cover whenever I get a new book.
Love your content. You don't have anywhere near the sub's you deserve.
The impressement element apears highly topical given what is going on in Russia at the moment. As always, a well researched and highly informative post.
Atun-Shei have you read the new novel by Robert Harris set in Puritan New England? It’s called Act of oblivion. It came out this year. I think you might enjoy it. It deals with two regicides who escape England after the restoration and have to hide among the puritans of New England (king Philip’s war is even mentioned).
I recently read Peter Guardino's "The Dead March" about the Mexican-American War with a focus on the perspectives of the common people (on both sides!). He spends considerable time covering how the Mexican Regular forces were recruited through conscription, and it's basically the same as you describe: local leaders filled quotas by selecting the "undesirables" of the community. So I wonder if this practice was fairly common throughout history. The Dead March is a good read if your interested in the subject, and the author goes into the reasons why they chose such people -- for example the Mexican economy was so poor, that the government couldn't afford to pay, or even feed, its soldiers regularly, and there was basically no way a soldier could support a family.
Anyway, another great video. Keep up the good work!
Always good to see you do a video on Mass, gotta love this place 😂
Looking forward to the Puritan-era cover of Credence Clearwater Revival's "fortunate son"
fome lads are borne, made to raife the flag
I'm five videos into this play list and so far it's great... if for no other reason than introducing me to the term "Pew Gigglers."
I was always a pew giggler, and had many stern talking to's (tos' tos to's?). I just never had such a concise way to identify myself.
Drafting "undesirables" for military service and having Officers in their positions due to societal status was pretty common at the time. And still occurs today, albeit to a lesser extent.
I’m from northeastern ct and it’s always so crazy watching videos when they mention towns i grew up near/go to often lol
“moseley’s story is best told another time, perhaps around a campfire”
sudbury devil foreshadowing??
Atun-Sheesh that was a banger video
I've never heard of this but it doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise me that they conducted impressment the same as we do today and the fact that I've never heard of it. Thank you. Very well done.
First time viewer, honestly I'm interested but struggling to pay attention. I really wish you had some maps or material to look at during the video
You should make a new playlist called “Weirods in American history,” so this and the Ignatius Donnelly one have a home
Love your videos, man!
Im a simple man. I see Atun, I click like
I’ve spend nearly two decades of my life serving my country, and have a dozen deployments behind me - and while there sometimes are well founded rationales for going to war - it’s never pretty!
Most of my deployments has been about trying to limit wars from escalating - but I've sadly seen first hand the results of humans worst side!
Do you seriously believe that what you were doing in the military was "trying to limit wars from escalating"? Get real
@@uncleobscurenobody8861
Let me guess, you have absolutely ZERO experience!
You do realize there's something called PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS!?
Where we actually did try to limit conflicts from escalating!
@@gorillaguerillaDK So why do some countries get to "keep the peace" and others get peacekept? Why does the US get to have military bases in dozens of sovereign nations? Funny how US corporations, loggers, mining companies, oil companies (and nowadays Chinese companies) all seem to follow up on "peacekeeping", isn't it? Almost as if military interventions are done to control and bully other countries and hold up their corrupt elites so that exploitation and poverty can continue
Soldiers of every empire in history up to the US, Russia, China, all think like this. "Dominating and murdering people is wrong and sad, but when WE do it we are just trying to keep the peace!" Look at the pathetic excuses British soldiers made in their imperial conquests
@@uncleobscurenobody8861
Sadly it’s quite clear that you have absolutely no comprehension about what Peacekeeping means in a international context!
And it’s quite saddening that you don’t, because you actually do reflect on some very interesting and valid points, on how military interventions can be, and in the past often has been, used!
What you talk about will always be a threat towards International Peacekeeping Operations, and those who don’t want Peacekeeping Operations to happen will often attempt to spin such narratives, no matter if it’s true or not!
However, the missions I talk about hasn’t been based on the wish of just a single country, but for the most part, they’ve been mandated by the UN!
Yes, some of my deployments has been lead by NATO, but on a mandate from the UN!
Back in the 90's the Balkan region was going up in flames as the former Yugoslavia was breaking apart! Maybe you’ve seen pictures from some of the concentration camps the Serbs build, as they are often mistaken for pictures from the Holocaust, with people looking like something from a "living dead" movie. It was bloody terrible, and to stop it, the UN decided to intervene with Peacekeepers, (like they had done elsewhere prior to then).
I ended up taking nearly two tours with UNPROFOR, and I was on patrol south east of Tuzla when the first refugees from Srebrenica started pouring in to our zone with Serbian, (aided by Russian Orthodox "Crusaders/volunteers), Militias hot on their tail.
We literally had to put us self in between the refugees and those Serb Militiamen to ensure the safety of the refugees!
A year earlier while I was home after my first deployment, the Serbs had attempted to force us, (NORDBAT2), to abandon the UNPROFOR safe zone at Tuzla or at least stand down, just as they later forced DUTCHBAT to do at Screbrenica, but it ended bad for the Serbs, because while UNPROFOR HQ denied DANBAT2 much needed air support, like they also did to DUTCHBAT the next year - our soldiers actually had the firepower to protect our zone!
(And they did so very effectively).
So maybe that was the reason to why most of the Serbs wasn’t happy about the idea of attacking us directly when we put us selves in between them and the refugees…
However, after Srebrenica it became quite obvious that the UN mandate for UNPROFOR was to weak, and we was pulled out, only to return again shortly after on a UN mandated NATO lead International mission, (IFOR, and then SFOR - and I did a tour with both).
I’ve also done two deployments with KFOR, again a International NATO lead mission under mandate from the UN!
I also took part in ALBA, AFOR, Amber Fox, and had a few other short term deployments!!
I can’t say we've been successful in everything I've taken part in, but the reality of these missions were so far from the context you tried to frame peacekeeping operations within!
Yes, there was at times various "national interests" that did complicate matters a lot, but it’s very rarely that it’s the issues that get mentioned now, because there’s bonkers people who are trying to frame the entire period differently today!
Both due to ignorance, and because they like some made up versions better!
Now .I could go on and start telling you a lot more about each of the deployments I’ve been on, but as long s you don’t know about the most basic shit like how mandates function and how it influence the abilities to make genuine peacekeeping efforts - then it’s probably just a huge waste of time!
All that being said. I don’t disagree that certain kinds of "peacekeeping missions can be serious problematic - especially those where a single nation decides to invade sovereign neighboring countries under the guise of it being peacekeeping….
you officially peaked my interested in this time period
As someone who lives in Connecticut, pretty close to Mystic, your videos have taught a whole lot. Of course we are taught about it in schools, but nowhere near the eloquency or style of yours.
Surnames like Henchmen, in an era not far removed from when surnames sometimes still denoted the family trade is quite entertaining.
Damn. That closing was cold as ice. Shivers.
You bring up an important point: Just because one fights in a war he is not evil if he is on your enemies side. Conscription and drafts can bring anyone into a war.
French inventor Augustine Mouchot created the first solar power system in the 1860s and 70s. It used an bowl shaped array of mirrors to focus sunlight on a central boile to drive a steam engine.
That's nice dear, but entirely irrelevant to the video.
Ok so i shouuuld study for tomorrow rn, but goddamnit ill have these 18 Minutes for this gem
Thanks for the vid. Always great.
I love good dust jacket. What's wrong with you?
Love the content, keep it up!
Yo man, Have you heard the tale of the native chief Squando on the Saco River Who joined King Phillips War when his wife and child were drowned when a drunken English settler overturned their canoe?
I have, yes. I've also heard about the curse associated with it. Isn't there a monument at the spot there now?
@@AtunSheiFilms I don't believe so, keep up the good work man!
History that combats negative modern trips, is the sort of history I like.
Samuel Mosely: "Look at me. I am a captain now."