And dont forget about the gun,192mm of pen at 5.0 plus the turret rotantion,cant wait to grind it game and funally use with my tiger(never used it because i dont had a rank 3 tank).
Having the panther round at 5.0 is amazing, who needs armor anyway, although saying that, it still has enough armor to reliably bounce shells from it's tier and lower.
@@refractivity3388 Watch as gaijoob drags it down even further to 4.0 on account of complaints to "3.6 deg/s turret rotation", "weak armor, even lowly, humble Shermans could pen it frontally", and "large silhouette".
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 Sherman players just bite the bullet, adapt, and move on. M4A3E2 76 raised to 6.3? Whatever we're still clapping king tigers and MBTs with the old girl.
@@imtiredtiredtired These nerfs are really adding up. The APCR nerf from the 239pen stuff to the 190pen shot was a big hit to dealing with entrenched Tiger II spam. The Jumbo 76 was a clown show of maximum effort, but things are getting sad as every other tree has your tanks but better, plus ever increasing under tiered shit, plus future tech, and half your shit is MIA. Can't wait until the VK30.02M goes to 4.7... /s
The Reason this has Less armour than the Panther is because the 'Big man in Berlin' said to MAN to put more armour on your Tank, and thus the Panther was created.
All people complaining apparently only see black and white. It's not like a fast vehicle like a zis-13 (94-km) can still Penn its sides from over 300m away. And on a different note. In the last 3 hours I have been frontally penned by : the Russian 4.7 57mm t34s, kv85, t34 85d5t, m4a2 76w m4a1 76w, m6... Edit add the breda 501 to that
@@lolsadboi1238 no, he's right. People see something like that demolish their team and immediately blame gaijin despite it being easy to kill. And before you say German main for me, I have grinded EVERY line to 7.7 without premium or premium tanks.
I love the fact that Gaijin gives this VK3002 a spot light in the game while removing Panther II because it’s not historical. “Oh a Prototype is fine” What about a Maus in the tech tree? That thing also removed too. Yeah Gaijin, you just swallow a Stone here.
Because it was built. Why should we have fantasy tanks? For all we know, the 105mm cannon Tiger 2 for example is actually impossible IRL for example, because the gun could not actually fit on the turret. And Maus was removed for not having a BR where it could actually be called balanced for both downtiers and uptiers aswell (you can still get it on anniversaries, so no idea why you cry). As much as I want them too, Gaijin made a good choice with this.
@@youlaughyouphill842 t34 is one of the easiest tanks to kill lol. I've play with and against it. People bring the newbie 1.0 mentality of point and click to a higher BR, shoot the strongest part of the armor and wonder why it doesn't do anything
@@lebien4554 indeed a skill issue When I started playing I hated the t34 when playing the panzer 4 cuz I was bad. Now i can't say that I'm good at the game but the t34 it's literally one of the easiest tank to kill. The real issues can be the Churchills or the camping isu-152
Only 20mm less (idk how much that translates into when angled tho), but the horsepower increase and 10 ton drop in weight is insane, on par with earlly lights and some MBTs
@@ryeo9907 still above 100mm Horsepower increase because turret and frontal have less armor and the weight of the engine it self i think but overall it almost the same
I can’t believe Germany gets the Panther gun at 5.0… It totally destroys any semblance of armor meta The firefly is balanced at 5.0 because it doesn’t have a filler round to nuke a target, the IS and KV’s are balanced because they don’t have as much pen as armor This reminds me of when gaijin tried to put the German m48 at 6.7… Just give Germany nukes at 5.0 at this point Give them jets at 5.0 too Give them ATGMs at 6.0 Might as well It’s not like 90% of the players who play Germany will do any better anyways Geez
Probably the gaijin did this because, according to statistics, 5.3-5.7 br every game in germany is a defeat gaijin tried to fix "Germany suffers" in short
At that point it'd be OP. Panther D is already much lower due to it's turret drive being so slow, imagine if we had a lesser armred but MUCH faster thing with the long 75. Nothing would be able to stop it with it's speed being close to tht of late lights
Man, this Vk is better than the panther D just because of the Engine and acceleration. But armour is less I think it can be pen by an M36 90mm gun from the front and even a t-34-85 gun. I don't know if we need to test it.
I hate that Germany gets this thing at 5.0… It’s a medium tank that still has enough armor at 5.0 that it can bounce strange rounds It has enough pen or ignore any armor, and is fast enough to out-run any sherman, any Churchill, any KV that can stand up to it The firefly would be it’s closest equivalent Having similar armor, slower top speed, similar pen but without a filler, faster rotation speed but who cares at this BR, and a similar reload Both suck in a reverse, and the Sherman has worse depression The firefly is worse in every way but 1, turret rotation Yet both are the same BR It’s the issue with the m48 all over Germany gets a better m48 at .3 lower then America even gets their first one 5.0 kwk42 is stupid Completely and utterly
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Either way, you will always face anything that can pen you. Actually I expected it to be 4.7 since it has no electrical turret traverse and armor almost equivalent to a KV.
It won't, then there'd be no point to it if it's the same as the panther D. Things only get raised if people win in them. German players are brain dead
And because you're not allowed to change any graphical settings now including HDR settings which they removed with this update it's pretty much unplayable
The order of bias is- Russia [because it's the law], Germany [big money suffering], then it's a hierarchy of content and wallet milking just right to make everyone argue amongst each other accomplishing nothing. They have proven they will passive aggressively do things to NATO stuff.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 yep. Just basic stuff which people should understand. The saddest part is that no one complains how already unplayed tanks like STB 1 got nerfed so hard. 7 reverse is a fucking shit in faces of players who play it. This is insulting. STB was the only MBT at that br which could reverse.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 yeah. Uptiers and downtiers are the main issue. Some vehicles are hard to balance but taking away reverse speed is the most disgusting thing they did. BR decompression is needed but we know their excuse.
I was just thinking the other day how desperately War Thunder needed _another_ 75 mm KwK42, how tough nazi players have had it lately, how they never get anything. I'm sooooooo gladdddd *dying of sarcasm* that they get anothhheerrrrr *blood pressure spikes* Paaanntthherrr I LOVE fighting PANTHERS it is REALLY FUN *becoming dizzy from rage* to know there is ANOTHER ONE at AN EVEN LOWER BR *heart attack*
all these people complaining about the m10, then claim this is still too high a BR cause the turret roation is slow and it doesn't have enough armor. Jesus, Russians are really bad at decision making when it comes to judging the strength of anything military.
Bro german mains truely are something You are getting a better tank, at a lower BR. Whenever I played 5.3 Germany it literally made no difference if I was uptriered or down tiered as I could get somewhat consistently good score, and would often get like 10 kills per one death.
I had researched germany but i am soviet main because bias and i had played germany only with my friend that stopped playing 1 year ago so I am not german main. If I were german main I would be happy from new tank.
@@romaboo6218 Gun better than most 6.7, very thick armour faster than many light tanks and obsoletes every other 5.0 in game also stabilizer isnt an issue as almost no tanks have stabilisers at that br
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 i meant 6.0, sorry and yes it does compare to many other light tanks, going about the same speed as m18 and way faster than things like pt76
@@justsomepersonyoudontknow8401 Well we dont talk about m18, and btw germans already have even better panther at 6.0 (f thing), but m18 a way faster anyway, it is somthing like t-34 in terms of speed
This thing is very nice. That extra speed is totally worth the lesser armor which is still totally sufficient for its BR!
I need to do a protection analysis, if the 17 pounder can get through the Hull I'll be a very happy man
@@thescotishclonetrooperecho7773 it can be penetrated with 76 mm sherman if not extremely angled
And dont forget about the gun,192mm of pen at 5.0 plus the turret rotantion,cant wait to grind it game and funally use with my tiger(never used it because i dont had a rank 3 tank).
And since allies players are stupid and shoot the front plate expecting to pen you you basically are immortal
@@yamatokurusaki5790 its kinda weird to think that ppl dont know that u need to kill it trough the turrer front cheeks.
Having the panther round at 5.0 is amazing, who needs armor anyway, although saying that, it still has enough armor to reliably bounce shells from it's tier and lower.
My Churchill VII will suffer from that 75mm 😭😭😭😭
But what is its lineup since theres no other 5.0 german tank?
@Acrowu Dome people have the KV I C, and you can pair the Panzer IVs with it
To be honest this tank will become a low tier tiger people will know how to pen
@@DubiousFIN 4.7
This panthers speed is so nice
Matiku
Watch as the magical touch of German mains will lower its BR to 4.7 in the next patch
inb4 they make it 4.3
@@refractivity3388 Watch as gaijoob drags it down even further to 4.0 on account of complaints to "3.6 deg/s turret rotation", "weak armor, even lowly, humble Shermans could pen it frontally", and "large silhouette".
@@imtiredtiredtired "Large silhouette"
Sherman players who receive constant nerfs and BR increases: BRUH
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 Sherman players just bite the bullet, adapt, and move on.
M4A3E2 76 raised to 6.3? Whatever we're still clapping king tigers and MBTs with the old girl.
@@imtiredtiredtired These nerfs are really adding up. The APCR nerf from the 239pen stuff to the 190pen shot was a big hit to dealing with entrenched Tiger II spam. The Jumbo 76 was a clown show of maximum effort, but things are getting sad as every other tree has your tanks but better, plus ever increasing under tiered shit, plus future tech, and half your shit is MIA.
Can't wait until the VK30.02M goes to 4.7... /s
The Reason this has Less armour than the Panther is because the 'Big man in Berlin' said to MAN to put more armour on your Tank, and thus the Panther was created.
Ah yes, the little mustache guy who likes thicc tanks
@@hammer7971 Ssshhh he was 5’9.Still taller than Napoleon.
Honestly this tank had good angle that why Some Soviet player use ISU due to panther prototype is literally 5.0 br
All people complaining apparently only see black and white.
It's not like a fast vehicle like a zis-13 (94-km) can still Penn its sides from over 300m away.
And on a different note.
In the last 3 hours I have been frontally penned by : the Russian 4.7 57mm t34s, kv85, t34 85d5t, m4a2 76w m4a1 76w, m6...
Edit add the breda 501 to that
@@guppiapfeljustleopardthing8756 german main spotted
@@lolsadboi1238 considering that I'm further in the Japanese tree than the German, I suppose I'm more a japan main
Well, any russian isu can kill pather in face(espesialy that 122)
@@lolsadboi1238 no, he's right. People see something like that demolish their team and immediately blame gaijin despite it being easy to kill.
And before you say German main for me, I have grinded EVERY line to 7.7 without premium or premium tanks.
This is truly a VK 3002 (M) moment
Finally gaijin gives ww2 germans on ww2 tanks
I love the fact that Gaijin gives this VK3002 a spot light in the game while removing Panther II because it’s not historical.
“Oh a Prototype is fine” What about a Maus in the tech tree? That thing also removed too.
Yeah Gaijin, you just swallow a Stone here.
Because it was built. Why should we have fantasy tanks? For all we know, the 105mm cannon Tiger 2 for example is actually impossible IRL for example, because the gun could not actually fit on the turret. And Maus was removed for not having a BR where it could actually be called balanced for both downtiers and uptiers aswell (you can still get it on anniversaries, so no idea why you cry). As much as I want them too, Gaijin made a good choice with this.
Music - Fichtl's Lied (QuantomX Remix)
Die Woodys
Love you thx
Not looking forward to fighting this thing in my 4.0 T-34
T 34s deserve everything going their way lol, they are as annoying as german tanks
Haha yeah once the t34 meets tanks that can pen its front armor, no more press W to win 4 u
@@AverageNeighbor skill issue bud.
@@youlaughyouphill842 t34 is one of the easiest tanks to kill lol. I've play with and against it. People bring the newbie 1.0 mentality of point and click to a higher BR, shoot the strongest part of the armor and wonder why it doesn't do anything
@@lebien4554 indeed a skill issue
When I started playing I hated the t34 when playing the panzer 4 cuz I was bad. Now i can't say that I'm good at the game but the t34 it's literally one of the easiest tank to kill. The real issues can be the Churchills or the camping isu-152
So glad they added a VK model to WT
Hope they add most, if not all of them
That VK Looking Kinda Cute Doe :-)
Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein Und das heißt
ERRIIIIKAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAH
I love the thumbnail so much
I spent real money to buy those googly eyes
they really thought it is a good ide to make a panther for 5.0 oh hell
I still don't get why the Panthers are such a low br.
The Panther A could easily go to 6.0 or 6.3.
@@Germanempireaboolilel Pretty sure it's because the global win rate in them is bad.
Wait until they drop it to 4.7 or worse. 4.3
@@Germanempireaboolilel сам тогда и играй на пантере А на 6.3, когда пантера 2 на 6.7 чувствует себя не очень
I mean, you're paying with huge chunk of armor... 50mm UFP at 5.0? And turret is 80mm, so enemies will pen you right into face. And that huge cupola.
The description is impressive, gotta love the grind to get into RUclips’s algorithm
Lemme just put this into perspective real quick. This thing, is at the same BR, as the fucking M6A1.
0:28 that's what we call stalinium
Those googly eyes are very cute
I love the gun on the panther
VK30.02 60 frontal armor is still almost the same as Panther D
Only 20mm less (idk how much that translates into when angled tho), but the horsepower increase and 10 ton drop in weight is insane, on par with earlly lights and some MBTs
@@ryeo9907 still above 100mm
Horsepower increase because turret and frontal have less armor and the weight of the engine it self i think
but overall it almost the same
all the panther is good tank, but the vk and panther d turret rotation is killing me
gaijin doesn't model the RPM effect on rotation speed. probably a good thing they don't have more to fuck up.
0:27 bias moment confirmed
Can you please give me tips I don't know how to aim in RB ground battles
Did the update happen to day ?!!!
Perfect music choice for these Panther shenanigans
Name of music
@@martroblox2905 Fichtl's Leid
I can’t believe Germany gets the Panther gun at 5.0…
It totally destroys any semblance of armor meta
The firefly is balanced at 5.0 because it doesn’t have a filler round to nuke a target, the IS and KV’s are balanced because they don’t have as much pen as armor
This reminds me of when gaijin tried to put the German m48 at 6.7…
Just give Germany nukes at 5.0 at this point
Give them jets at 5.0 too
Give them ATGMs at 6.0
Might as well
It’s not like 90% of the players who play Germany will do any better anyways
Geez
Cope harder
Probably the gaijin did this because, according to statistics, 5.3-5.7 br every game in germany is a defeat
gaijin tried to fix "Germany suffers" in short
Idk man, maybe play better
I mean most 5.0 - 6.3 German main are blind mostly or is just bad at the game
copium overload
This tank have wood camo that make it look like death tank
I swear to god I am about 2 non-pens-right-above-the-tracks away from sending myself to the gulag.
Ah yes the recent tank at uploaded the "panther prototype"
The music bugged the shit out of me.
First
I thought no vid today
@@matiku8886 it was a tactical lie 😎
In war, all means are good
@Hasan A yep
@@ShorThunder hehe I bet you read my nick on discord and then came up with this idea
@Hasan A blueberry
Still disappointed because it just a lighter Panther D instead of a Panther A variant
It good like that man
Would need to be higher if it was similar to the A variant
That's all? I don't see the negativity innit.
That turret rotate speed though, i don't even play Panther D, why would i play this...
and you people complain about the m10, lmao
You don't need to rotate your turret when you can spin on the spot
@@wbwam7710 I don't play M10 either, why not just play M36 and Panther A?
Time to never be able to play m4a2 again
Watching when running to battefield as a medic in Hell Let Loose
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
See you on the battlefield 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cool til 50 m26 and t26e1 roll up and say hello weak panther
Is-2 👏💪
Tho I'm a German main, it was very satisfying to one shot Panthers and Tigers frontally with the 122 xD
local gaming-speed panther is too fast to die
I'd like this thing more if it had an electric turret drive
At that point it'd be OP. Panther D is already much lower due to it's turret drive being so slow, imagine if we had a lesser armred but MUCH faster thing with the long 75. Nothing would be able to stop it with it's speed being close to tht of late lights
Another panther....yay
Man, this Vk is better than the panther D just because of the Engine and acceleration. But armour is less I think it can be pen by an M36 90mm gun from the front and even a t-34-85 gun. I don't know if we need to test it.
Well it look like german t-34
Here before germany mains cry to gaijjin that their tank isnt completely invincible from the front
Just saying the 90mm M3 should be able to pen the front of a normal Panther at 1000 meters with T33 shot, but it pings off because balans.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 you can pen it with AP rounds
Use real gunner sight please, don't turned it off
Song plz?
Army gray looks nice
Well I'm definitely getting this.
I can't wait for the next update when they change the BR of this tank to 5.7 or higher because reasons.
Is that thing supposed to be dangerous?
Just got it too so much fun one shoting everything
1:21 повесил тряпку на танк
what music is that i like it
fichtl lied
Hey there's a bug when back up in this thing it will also turn your vehicle when you stop
Song name please
I dont like how you did not shot the france sherman and he killed your teammate
what is song name?
its basically a jumbo with a better gun
what's the name of the song?plz
fichtl lied
Can the 17pdr pen it upper frontal plate?
Definetly
yes, up to 1500m away
Yes, it can pen that 50mm plate
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 Thought it was 60mm?
@@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul it is 60mm
Is it a worse Panther D?
better
lower br but it has only 60mm front plate and turret is like 50mm so it has no armor. t3485 can pen it anywhere. and also bad turret rotation.
@@Rychlik85 You can bounce if you angle enough, although the sides are more appealing to shoot.
I hate that Germany gets this thing at 5.0…
It’s a medium tank that still has enough armor at 5.0 that it can bounce strange rounds
It has enough pen or ignore any armor, and is fast enough to out-run any sherman, any Churchill, any KV that can stand up to it
The firefly would be it’s closest equivalent
Having similar armor, slower top speed, similar pen but without a filler, faster rotation speed but who cares at this BR, and a similar reload
Both suck in a reverse, and the Sherman has worse depression
The firefly is worse in every way but 1, turret rotation
Yet both are the same BR
It’s the issue with the m48 all over
Germany gets a better m48 at .3 lower then America even gets their first one
5.0 kwk42 is stupid
Completely and utterly
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Either way, you will always face anything that can pen you. Actually I expected it to be 4.7 since it has no electrical turret traverse and armor almost equivalent to a KV.
Thing will get raised to 5.3. just watch
I bet SU-25 will raise faster
@@alexxu6138 i am ready to rise them to heaven then bump intro the ground
oh no?
It won't, then there'd be no point to it if it's the same as the panther D. Things only get raised if people win in them. German players are brain dead
it's too op
maybe i won't play 4.0 anymore
5.0 no no 5.0 panter 5.0.. Gaijin... WHY??????
The song ?
Is the turret traverse the same as the D?
Yes
i think its actually slightly slower
Somehow since the update i get more kills
the turret takes 10 years to turn tho
I’m grinding for all of the soviet 122 vehicles just to spite gaijins addiction to adding panthers
It's the first Panther they added in like 5 years bro💀
@@mercedesgarcia4493 don’t matter to me. Shit’s cringe
also the panther dauphine, like wtf bro
@@yippers7230 POV:10 Shermans variants
20 T-34 and IS-2 variants per year
@@yippers7230 I am more salty about those millions of fucking IS-2 variants than any panther bullshit
What is the music ? plz
Nice music
song plss
what is the music!!!1
They broke 4k hdr on ps5
And because you're not allowed to change any graphical settings now including HDR settings which they removed with this update it's pretty much unplayable
"there is no German bias".... Yeah. Sure buddy. Gaijin is just pandering to major nation players. Not that hard to understand.
The order of bias is- Russia [because it's the law], Germany [big money suffering], then it's a hierarchy of content and wallet milking just right to make everyone argue amongst each other accomplishing nothing. They have proven they will passive aggressively do things to NATO stuff.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 yep. Just basic stuff which people should understand. The saddest part is that no one complains how already unplayed tanks like STB 1 got nerfed so hard. 7 reverse is a fucking shit in faces of players who play it. This is insulting. STB was the only MBT at that br which could reverse.
@@levi_exiled8579 STB-1 doesn't belong clubbing into WWII like so much mid late cold war garbage, but that is beside the point.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 yeah. Uptiers and downtiers are the main issue. Some vehicles are hard to balance but taking away reverse speed is the most disgusting thing they did. BR decompression is needed but we know their excuse.
Budget phanter
Is it a premium tho
nope 😈
nope its a tech tree one
Not even battle pass. I wonder what they are thinking, it's just not like what they would do...
@@alexxu6138 yeah, weird, not so bad tank and not even top tier
Music?)
diet panther lmao
Another panther in town another tank need to grind and bully the down tier ( new player too)
I was just thinking the other day how desperately War Thunder needed _another_ 75 mm KwK42, how tough nazi players have had it lately, how they never get anything. I'm sooooooo gladdddd *dying of sarcasm* that they get anothhheerrrrr *blood pressure spikes* Paaanntthherrr I LOVE fighting PANTHERS it is REALLY FUN *becoming dizzy from rage* to know there is ANOTHER ONE at AN EVEN LOWER BR *heart attack*
skill issue
skill issue
Skill issue
skill issue
skill issue
WAIT
Stalinium my ass
man i wanted to be first
all these people complaining about the m10, then claim this is still too high a BR cause the turret roation is slow and it doesn't have enough armor. Jesus, Russians are really bad at decision making when it comes to judging the strength of anything military.
I will not research it because for me is it bad as panther d but with no armor. Because you will mostly be uptiered.
Bro german mains truely are something
You are getting a better tank, at a lower BR. Whenever I played 5.3 Germany it literally made no difference if I was uptriered or down tiered as I could get somewhat consistently good score, and would often get like 10 kills per one death.
but at 5.0 there's change it domination 4.0
Look at this clown German main complaining
I had researched germany but i am soviet main because bias and i had played germany only with my friend that stopped playing 1 year ago so I am not german main. If I were german main I would be happy from new tank.
So true, like 17/20 battles is uptier, but if i take any other nation its like half of them
Yeah I'm just taking it into 5.7 instead, this thing for 5.0 is ridiculous
GL dying from every shell
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 Ehhhh, just need to play it more like a light tank, has the speed to do so
this needs 5.7 i will debate everyone who disagrees
60mm frontal turret plate, Turret rotation speed, No stabiliser
@@romaboo6218 Gun better than most 6.7, very thick armour faster than many light tanks and obsoletes every other 5.0 in game also stabilizer isnt an issue as almost no tanks have stabilisers at that br
@@justsomepersonyoudontknow8401 are you kidding me? Better gun then 6.7 tanks? Faster then light tanks? You must forgot to take pills
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 i meant 6.0, sorry and yes it does compare to many other light tanks, going about the same speed as m18 and way faster than things like pt76
@@justsomepersonyoudontknow8401 Well we dont talk about m18, and btw germans already have even better panther at 6.0 (f thing), but m18 a way faster anyway, it is somthing like t-34 in terms of speed
A
Song name?