Panpsychism and Panprotopsychism
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- In which we discuss David Chalmers' alternative monisms, which he arrives at by accepting both arguments for dualism and arguments for materialism. Is panpsychism compatible with materialist intuitions, or incompatible? Is it a new form of idealism? Are there unique problems for these views?
Ray Kurzweil in his 2024 book 'The Singularity is Nearer' does a very good job promoting Panprotopsycism. There's a lot to the argument, but he focuses on the mathematical Cellular Automation theories. Basically a set of rules you can establish at step 1 that build upon themselves to create systematic results, yet the randomness of the algorithm prevents anyone from knowing a single point in the system (until the algorithm calculates every equation up to that point). So basically you can't predict the future even if you know the algorithm, the future is unraveling in real time by calculating the next step in the equation. The Panprotopsycism relates to the fact the neurons in our brain may have deterministic properties, but those properties can't be revealed until all of the past equations are 'solved' eg time moving forward.
It's a good book even if just for the philosophical sections
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There's another form of panpsychism to consider: *Cosmopsychism.* Philip Goff explains:
"Cosmopsychism is a combination of priority monism and panpsychism. On this view the universe considered as a whole is a conscious subject of some kind. All entities and properties, including organic conscious minds and their conscious experiences, are aspects of the conscious universe."
Source: Goff, Philip (2019). Cosmopsychism, Micropsychism, and the Grounding Relation. In William Seager (ed.), The Routledge Handbook of Panpsychism. Routledge.
Traditional panpsychists hold that facts about the mental states of a macro-level entity are grounded in facts about the mental states of micro-level entities and this leads to the combination problem. Cosmopsychists have the advantage of dissolving the combination problem by holding that facts about the mental states of micro/macro-level entities are grounded in facts about the mental states of a single cosmic entity.
Cosmopsychism avoids the combination problem (how do you get a single macro-level consciousness from a plurality of micro-level consciousness?), but it is vulnerable to the de-combination problem (how do you get a plurality of macro-level consciousness from a single cosmic consciousness?). Though the de-combination is a problem, it is one that seems more tractable than the combination problem and it's possible that idealism may be better equipped to answer the de-combination problem than cosmopsychism.
Structural realism as Dr Chalmers defined as the metaphysics of information
Do you think the work of Leibniz (Monadology) and Spinoza still have any relevance to modern 'Philosophy of Physics' and 'Philosophy of Mind' outside of the Continental Tradition?
I don't see too many publications about it when searching PhilPapers, but I feel like Leibniz's Constitutive Panpsychism and Property-Dualism could perhaps have some relevance to reconciling the Wigner interpretation with the Bohm-DeBroglie interpretation in QM without degenerating into Chopra-mysticism.
Thanks for returning me in glorious summary and with such charm to the subject of my Master's, which was an analysis of Chalmers' and others' pansychist/panprotopsychist arguments. After 12 years of distraction, this really is where it's at, for me. Still. The further modern science delves, the more this will have to be addressed. Thank you.
I really enjoy philosophy and your discussions. I'm wondering if consciousness can be explained by the emergence theory, that it emerged from the physical and material universe over time and is a novelty which can't be fully reduced to matter.
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I appreciate the video! wish more people were interested in this stuff. I guess my question would be, what is your definition of physicalism? Does it view "quiddities" as purely emergent or an illusion?
"Quiddities" is a term that arises in the context of this particular sort of theory, so traditional physicalists generally account for subjective psychological feels / phenomenal states in other ways and with other terms. Some are emergentists, some are eliminativists, some have identity theories.
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