From wikipedia: "..As a young child, Wolfram had difficulties learning arithmetic. At the age of 12, he wrote a directory of physics. By age 14, he had written three books on particle physics." Wolfram, at the age of 15, began research in applied quantum field theory and particle physics and published scientific papers. Topics included matter creation and annihilation, the fundamental interactions, elementary particles and their currents, hadronic and leptonic physics, and the parton model, published in professional peer-reviewed scientific journals including Nuclear Physics B, Australian Journal of Physics, Nuovo Cimento, and Physical Review D.[42] Working independently, Wolfram published a widely cited paper on heavy quark production at age 18[2] and nine other papers,[18] and continued research and to publish on particle physics into his early twenties. Wolfram's work with Geoffrey C. Fox on the theory of the strong interaction is still used in experimental particle physics. This guy is a genius.
man... to dive THAT deep into particle physics and stay there, I wonder where that curiosity comes from. I mean I understand some basics of physics and the size of quarks and neutrinos but it's frankly boring for me. I wonder why he found it so interesting at so young an age?
Its all about preferences man. This stuff fascinate the hell out of me and I love it. There just isn't any money in it unless you are stupid smart (which I am not) or super connected (which I am also not).
Wolfram is great for checking your derivations. It has often taught me interesting identities, special functions, and simplifications that I didn't know before.
@@ChuckN914 Yes obviously. I mean the software package he is using in the video. For instance, it turned out one expression I derived was an identity for 1/2. That revelation led me to another idea, and another proof and so on. It put some more meat on my Ph.D haha
It's a trip how much he's influenced our world and I had no idea who he was till I watched this interview. It's inspired me to relearn math so I can follow this cat's research. I can't thank you enough for this Lex. Keep doing those interviews on Rogan's show, there are a lot of people out there like me who need to be woken up. My brain has gotten lazy over the last few decades and you've helped to rekindle that fire. Watched Wolfram's live Q&A today and the dude is super interesting. He likes to talk, but that's cool, what he has to say is worth hearing. He's good at breaking down information in a way that's palatable to the layman.
I've been following the streams too, he gets so many questions and all of them require such in depth answers but he also tries his hardest to answer good ones satisfactorily. For me it's great as a source of random new ideas, because he touches on so many different things that it's perfect for when you need to think creatively.
Just amazing how different it is compared to conventional languages, dont understand why this is not as popular as Python or MATLAB when it existed for 33 years! Thank you, Lex, for the enlightening and keep em comin'!!!
Expensive and slow would be he main points. Although it is highly expressive, it is very limited in it's scope. In Matlab and Python, you can write your engineering code, and also do the rest of the developer stuff you need (interact with fs, sockets, other device), deploy to hardware, generate code for other platforms, ...
I used Mathematica at Ohio State in the Physics department for a whole year in Prof. Greg Kupps physics 260 series. It was quite amazing. It could break down very complex factorization of equations, integrals and even provide a step by step on how it arrived at its solution. It was amazing. One of a kind software.
From Wikipedia: Both Stephen Wolfram and Christopher Wolfram were involved in helping create the alien language for the film Arrival, for which they used the Wolfram Language
Stephen Wolfram is a once in a hundred years genius and visionary who actually takes on and executes big problems. I worry about Wolfram the company and concept when he is no longer with us to provide the thought leadership and vision, maintain the discipline and integrity, and drive its implementation.
It's £20 per month -- I've spent that on Typeform in the past. Might try the engine + jupyter suggestion. In the past I used it to calculate the Shockley-Queisser limit on dye sensitized solar cells and help secure my organisation £50M investment
its 150 euro for home edition ! And it has ALL features of full edition except cannot be used commercially . Much better than Matlab home edition who sells a gimped version (no code generation , limited numbers of simulink blocks)
By my account that is what it is. What did you discover about it from this interview? Can you give another analogy to help others who are genuinely interested in getting their heads around the conceptual idea behind it, without having ever used it?
Really late response, but for others who read this - it is a very good language for quickly hashing out ideas. However, I would strongly advise against using it for anything deployment related, or for large programs. It’s a nightmare to debug, once you start getting into larger programs. That’s just my experience, however - so I could be missing something. I think it is, however, a phenomenal tool - just don’t fall into the trap of wanting to create massive systems with it.
Can you theoretically encode every bit a data you can get about your own biology into this language then use it to test what effects nutrition or other substances may or may not have on your body?
I asked Wolfram Alpha "Who's your daddy? and it responded that Stephen and team were, in fact, it's daddy. This was followed by "Show me a plunger," which it did, accompanied by definitions, the first being "someone who risks losses for the possibility of considerable gains." So, I guess that Stephen is a plunger after all. Well played, Alpha. Well played.
"Most of the brilliant dreamers give up such a difficult engineering notion at some point." It's death by chasing impossible dreams or death by mediocrity, how could anyone quit....
Lex, it's time to get him back. Now GPT-4 API has access to Wolfram Alpha, we need to explore what capabilities Machine Learning, LLMs and Wolfram Language/Data can do together. Add a way to increase the character length of replies and a way to store new data as memory and you've got the bulk of AI right there.
Great Stuff Lex!!! I taught myself basic and wrote a lot of programs for work. I have dabbled in, Java, C, Python and now I guess I need to get a peek at Wolfram. I'll need another pandemic to help me devote the time to it. :oD
Adding computations to language is a great step forward. Where will it lead us? Exiting times. But it is not quite true that we do not have theory in machine learning, or we do not have anything between neurons and behavior.
I get the joke, just some clarification WolframAlpha and the Wolfram language are 2 different things. WolframAlpha is built from the Wolfram language. His demonstration was in the Wolfram language
people don't use Wolfram more because the same reason why Smalltalk banished 1. too Expensive for most people to justify it for their job. 2. *not open source* if you are going to advertise yourself as a programming language today, and you are not open source most developers are going to ignore you regardless of how awesome your programming language is. I'm a fanatic of lisp languages and I like Mathematica but is just too expensive for me & I want an open source version of it
QUESTION: Any issues w/ SD card reader? Mine is often not read when inserted. Takes multiple tries/fiddling to work. Plus, had print stop, which I think was possibly due to SD card wiggling loose. Hm? TIA.
@jay HAHA! Misplaced comment. Have been using the RUclips quick playlist feature. Sometimes it goes to the next video, but the comments section doesn't! Thx for alerting me. Off to post to the intended video...
I think companies like Wolfram, Mathworks, etc. need to do a better job of reaching out to community colleges and prioritizing the distribution of, and access to, their software there. If he does want to see a world where these types of tools are more widely adopted, community college licensing partnerships is an area where he could focus that would help expose more "normal" people to these kinds of tools.
I would disagree, it is not academia but industry where the target should be. This language can certainly have mass adaptation and the use in the industry determines if the language will have any future or not. Wolfram if start giving incentives to small businesses and market properly to large businesses then its adoption will increase and create opportunities for developers and users of the language.
@@MuhammadAli-dk6dz While I agree that industry adoption should be their primary business target, I worry about the difficulty of getting widespread adoption of a technology with a steep difficulty curve. Normal people need constant and regular exposure to these kinds of tools for their increased usage in businesses to not be viewed as nuisance inefficiency by their employers. Wolfram language has the potential to be fun, interesting, and useful for people in everyday ways that is not true of other specialized programming languages/computing platforms. This should be viewed as an opportunity for massive growth broadly in society that will yield massive dividends later on, but with relatively little investment costs.
@@connorfinnerty1366 I worked in a company where I was able to convince them to use Wolfram language and managed to created solutions that they thought wouldn't be possible or would take a very long time. On the other hand in another company, I failed to convince them since they already had joined the cult of python when I entered and all the people sing praises of python like an anthem and refused to even look at Wolfram language.
Dr Wolfram could you please comment on the extent to which the current average daily utilization of Wolfram alfrem represents the totality of the capacity of the servers that you have that you have running from alpha to accommodate traffic meaning if 10 server is a 10 people a day would be the Maxima out of that 10 how many a day would you say utilize the system therefore how much unused capacity is it necessary or would it be necessary to acquire additional users to fill sorry that didn't make sense
People need to hurry up and learn how to protect themselves against when this will happen. Time is short! It starts with learning how to stay in control of your own
Creating a computer language that symbolically hold as much of human knowledge as possible and then applying AI/Machine learning tools to explore all we know.... Is this how we begin to create our own universe?
I remember my first contact with a normal computer, I typed in "Who are you?" Wolfram language might give me an Answer! No Answer so I went to my Assembly language programming class.
AI: The point is that the AI will be considered human once it will talk in "human" haw, meaning it will answer question in limited way as humans do, while now it tries to answer anything, which is naturally non-human like behavior. Plus and most importantly AI should be able to start do conversation and lead it. So far there is only one way we let the AI to communicate and that is to answer our questions. Plus people still have the notion that it needs to behave as a calculator, always return truthful information while the same thing do no expect from humans. The fact that people think that computer must always respond given question and that it will not harm any living soul is the gateway to oblivion, as this paradigm is applicable only in theory, like working communism, it just not gonna happen as people are not uniform and any consequence is not single output only. Apart from that.. the symbolic features of the Wolfram language is a perfect example how the calculator like computer response is far gone.
@@davidh00 The most expensive version is CAD 8,510 for an entire lifetime license for an enterprise private cloud. Are you saying the industry can't afford this?
From wikipedia: "..As a young child, Wolfram had difficulties learning arithmetic. At the age of 12, he wrote a directory of physics. By age 14, he had written three books on particle physics."
Wolfram, at the age of 15, began research in applied quantum field theory and particle physics and published scientific papers. Topics included matter creation and annihilation, the fundamental interactions, elementary particles and their currents, hadronic and leptonic physics, and the parton model, published in professional peer-reviewed scientific journals including Nuclear Physics B, Australian Journal of Physics, Nuovo Cimento, and Physical Review D.[42] Working independently, Wolfram published a widely cited paper on heavy quark production at age 18[2] and nine other papers,[18] and continued research and to publish on particle physics into his early twenties. Wolfram's work with Geoffrey C. Fox on the theory of the strong interaction is still used in experimental particle physics.
This guy is a genius.
Don't believe everything you read
man... to dive THAT deep into particle physics and stay there, I wonder where that curiosity comes from.
I mean I understand some basics of physics and the size of quarks and neutrinos but it's frankly boring for me. I wonder why he found it so interesting at so young an age?
Its all about preferences man. This stuff fascinate the hell out of me and I love it. There just isn't any money in it unless you are stupid smart (which I am not) or super connected (which I am also not).
Now I want to see him talk to Eric Weinstein.
Prodigy is the word
Imagine creating a robot and then that robot flexes on you by calling you a toilet plunger on a podcast.
Is it not a collection of what his critics have said about him? Isnt that how the thing works?
@@3_up_moon4:29
It made me chuckle!
Wolfram is great for checking your derivations. It has often taught me interesting identities, special functions, and simplifications that I didn't know before.
WolframAlpha and Wolfram language are two separate things entierly
@@ChuckN914 Yes obviously. I mean the software package he is using in the video. For instance, it turned out one expression I derived was an identity for 1/2. That revelation led me to another idea, and another proof and so on. It put some more meat on my Ph.D haha
Wolfram Alpha is the closest anyone has come to date to creating the Computer on the Starship Enterprise in Star Trek. Amazing effort!
It's a trip how much he's influenced our world and I had no idea who he was till I watched this interview. It's inspired me to relearn math so I can follow this cat's research. I can't thank you enough for this Lex. Keep doing those interviews on Rogan's show, there are a lot of people out there like me who need to be woken up. My brain has gotten lazy over the last few decades and you've helped to rekindle that fire.
Watched Wolfram's live Q&A today and the dude is super interesting. He likes to talk, but that's cool, what he has to say is worth hearing. He's good at breaking down information in a way that's palatable to the layman.
I've been following the streams too, he gets so many questions and all of them require such in depth answers but he also tries his hardest to answer good ones satisfactorily. For me it's great as a source of random new ideas, because he touches on so many different things that it's perfect for when you need to think creatively.
5:44 a plunger 😂
57% a plunger 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not to mention it was like “and if you’re not a toilet plunger there’s a good chance you’re an ape”
This is fascinating. Keep up the great work, Lex.
Just amazing how different it is compared to conventional languages, dont understand why this is not as popular as Python or MATLAB when it existed for 33 years! Thank you, Lex, for the enlightening and keep em comin'!!!
its cause its paid. my scool only has two licenses for 100+ students.
Python is free. While MATLAB isn't free, Octave is free and it's very similar. Mathematica is amazing but it's expensive.
Also it is a tool whose uses are very limited. You can at least make desktop and CLI tools in Python, Wolfram doesn't have that
Expensive and slow would be he main points. Although it is highly expressive, it is very limited in it's scope. In Matlab and Python, you can write your engineering code, and also do the rest of the developer stuff you need (interact with fs, sockets, other device), deploy to hardware, generate code for other platforms, ...
@@omerresnikoff3565 Yes you can. The user interface is just another WL (Wolfram Language) sublanguage.
I used Mathematica at Ohio State in the Physics department for a whole year in Prof. Greg Kupps physics 260 series. It was quite amazing. It could break down very complex factorization of equations, integrals and even provide a step by step on how it arrived at its solution. It was amazing. One of a kind software.
From Wikipedia: Both Stephen Wolfram and Christopher Wolfram were involved in helping create the alien language for the film Arrival, for which they used the Wolfram Language
Stephen Wolfram is a once in a hundred years genius and visionary who actually takes on and executes big problems. I worry about Wolfram the company and concept when he is no longer with us to provide the thought leadership and vision, maintain the discipline and integrity, and drive its implementation.
When I was in university I used it. It is too expensive for the average person. That in effect limits it's adaption.
yup.
with wolfram engine + jupyter， you can use WL for free.
It's £20 per month -- I've spent that on Typeform in the past. Might try the engine + jupyter suggestion.
In the past I used it to calculate the Shockley-Queisser limit on dye sensitized solar cells and help secure my organisation £50M investment
@@HHY623 It has the same features as mathmatica and alpha?
its 150 euro for home edition ! And it has ALL features of full edition except cannot be used commercially . Much better than Matlab home edition who sells a gimped version (no code generation , limited numbers of simulink blocks)
Wolfram takes many forms including a plunger lol
AMAZING! I feel a little guilty for using it as a calculator until now.
By my account that is what it is. What did you discover about it from this interview? Can you give another analogy to help others who are genuinely interested in getting their heads around the conceptual idea behind it, without having ever used it?
Really late response, but for others who read this - it is a very good language for quickly hashing out ideas. However, I would strongly advise against using it for anything deployment related, or for large programs. It’s a nightmare to debug, once you start getting into larger programs. That’s just my experience, however - so I could be missing something. I think it is, however, a phenomenal tool - just don’t fall into the trap of wanting to create massive systems with it.
when the computer thinks u a plunger LMFAO
Your own program!
Can you theoretically encode every bit a data you can get about your own biology into this language then use it to test what effects nutrition or other substances may or may not have on your body?
Not to mention it was like “and if you’re not a toilet plunger, there’s a good chance you’re an ape”
I asked Wolfram Alpha "Who's your daddy? and it responded that Stephen and team were, in fact, it's daddy. This was followed by "Show me a plunger," which it did, accompanied by definitions, the first being "someone who risks losses for the possibility of considerable gains." So, I guess that Stephen is a plunger after all. Well played, Alpha. Well played.
Hahah brilliant 😆
Lex it was great!, thank you :-)
WolframAlpha is awesome, I don't know how to use the wolfram language, yet, but I really like the underlying broader concept of it.
Goodnight. And I love your podcasts.
The thing Wolfram said about needing multiple different competing AI ethics modules is very prescient
I Love Wolfram Language!
What a video to make!
You took my heart today!
🥰
@@bhuvaneshs.k638 Even I learnt it a bit and found interesting. I don't use it much though.
@@bhuvaneshs.k638 18:36 as an example
someone needs to make a compilation of everytime lex says "well, im russian"
....we like to romanticize things LOL
"Most of the brilliant dreamers give up such a difficult engineering notion at some point." It's death by chasing impossible dreams or death by mediocrity, how could anyone quit....
lubomir dinchev this needs to be on billboards
Lex, it's time to get him back. Now GPT-4 API has access to Wolfram Alpha, we need to explore what capabilities Machine Learning, LLMs and Wolfram Language/Data can do together. Add a way to increase the character length of replies and a way to store new data as memory and you've got the bulk of AI right there.
Get Boston Dynamics involved and get real-world robotic feedback too. :)
And that's how Steven Wolfram become known as the 'Plunger'.
Genuine question: isn’t he just taking datasets aka apis from other languages and including the information in a language that is more command line?
thanks. i listen to your podcast sometimes
i like it.
Awesome content.
Great Stuff Lex!!! I taught myself basic and wrote a lot of programs for work. I have dabbled in, Java, C, Python and now I guess I need to get a peek at Wolfram. I'll need another pandemic to help me devote the time to it. :oD
Adding computations to language is a great step forward. Where will it lead us? Exiting times. But it is not quite true that we do not have theory in machine learning, or we do not have anything between neurons and behavior.
U r wrong we are just using data with human though
Wolfram is so likeable. What a great clip.
Terry Davis was right! Graphics in source code is the way of the future... Sad he won't get to see it. RIP.
Great interview!!! Lex, your show has taken the baton (from Joe Rogan) of the greatest mind-blowing podcast on RUclips!
WolframAlpha: Look sir, your a plunger! The numbers don't lie!
*Existential crises maximizes*
I get the joke, just some clarification
WolframAlpha and the Wolfram language are 2 different things. WolframAlpha is built from the Wolfram language.
His demonstration was in the Wolfram language
people don't use Wolfram more because the same reason why Smalltalk banished
1. too Expensive for most people to justify it for their job.
2. *not open source*
if you are going to advertise yourself as a programming language today, and you are not open source most developers are going to ignore you regardless of how awesome your programming language is.
I'm a fanatic of lisp languages and I like Mathematica but is just too expensive for me & I want an open source version of it
Plunger had me rolling🤣
QUESTION: Any issues w/ SD card reader? Mine is often not read when inserted. Takes multiple tries/fiddling to work. Plus, had print stop, which I think was possibly due to SD card wiggling loose. Hm? TIA.
@jay HAHA! Misplaced comment. Have been using the RUclips quick playlist feature. Sometimes it goes to the next video, but the comments section doesn't! Thx for alerting me. Off to post to the intended video...
Wolfram should mention that Ed Fredkin was ahead of him in this line of thinking!! Give credit, where credit is due.
I think companies like Wolfram, Mathworks, etc. need to do a better job of reaching out to community colleges and prioritizing the distribution of, and access to, their software there. If he does want to see a world where these types of tools are more widely adopted, community college licensing partnerships is an area where he could focus that would help expose more "normal" people to these kinds of tools.
I would disagree, it is not academia but industry where the target should be. This language can certainly have mass adaptation and the use in the industry determines if the language will have any future or not. Wolfram if start giving incentives to small businesses and market properly to large businesses then its adoption will increase and create opportunities for developers and users of the language.
@@MuhammadAli-dk6dz While I agree that industry adoption should be their primary business target, I worry about the difficulty of getting widespread adoption of a technology with a steep difficulty curve. Normal people need constant and regular exposure to these kinds of tools for their increased usage in businesses to not be viewed as nuisance inefficiency by their employers.
Wolfram language has the potential to be fun, interesting, and useful for people in everyday ways that is not true of other specialized programming languages/computing platforms. This should be viewed as an opportunity for massive growth broadly in society that will yield massive dividends later on, but with relatively little investment costs.
@@connorfinnerty1366 I worked in a company where I was able to convince them to use Wolfram language and managed to created solutions that they thought wouldn't be possible or would take a very long time. On the other hand in another company, I failed to convince them since they already had joined the cult of python when I entered and all the people sing praises of python like an anthem and refused to even look at Wolfram language.
I'm having trouble understanding what he means by a computational contract. Are other smart contracts not computational?
"A plunger" LMAO sorry
Dr Wolfram could you please comment on the extent to which the current average daily utilization of Wolfram alfrem represents the totality of the capacity of the servers that you have that you have running from alpha to accommodate traffic meaning if 10 server is a 10 people a day would be the Maxima out of that 10 how many a day would you say utilize the system therefore how much unused capacity is it necessary or would it be necessary to acquire additional users to fill sorry that didn't make sense
Wolfram language looks initially like a swiss army knife of random computation.
5:34 why is this still not a meme?
Absolutely love this.. Its like Cando Amigy styles of ideas!
Amiga
This guy is really onto something.
Where can I get his Laptop Sticker?
People need to hurry up and learn how to protect themselves against when this will happen. Time is short! It starts with learning how to stay in control of your own
i mean he's marketing a product for the top teams and minds - well, that's not going to gain mass adaptation
And within 2 years we have GPT-4 that addresses most of these questions.
amazing talking
Would love to see Bernhard Schölkopf on here one day.
Wolfram alpha blew me off. It's a masterpiece
I wonder what type of watch Lex wears.
A roLEX
Rob Schneider is a....Carrot!!
Creating a computer language that symbolically hold as much of human knowledge as possible and then applying AI/Machine learning tools to explore all we know.... Is this how we begin to create our own universe?
For someone this intelligent and learned to not understand the adoption curve is hilarious.
I would like to see talk about warp drive technology anti gravity
A plunger! Love it XD
To learn more Wolfram thoughts on about college, AI, and the Computational Universe. Watch our interview with him.
Computational contracts!
This interviewer sounds like he’s doing a James Franco impression lol
thanks wolfram (college student)
A product running on Wolfram Languages is basically a Jarvis System which doesn't speak
Get Geoffrey Hinton!
He can't sit
agreeable ESTJ with developed Si and Ne
I remember my first contact with a normal computer, I typed in "Who are you?" Wolfram language might give me an Answer! No Answer so I went to my Assembly language programming class.
Amazing
Drowning tail... so true.. I feel this with art.
exausted in dead ends. now i detect them very fast and avoid those Drowning Tail
a plunger LMFAO jajajajaajajaajjaloooooooooooooool
What is the code in Wolfram language that counts: how many times have the words "you know" been used by Stephen Wolfram in this video? 😂
AI: The point is that the AI will be considered human once it will talk in "human" haw, meaning it will answer question in limited way as humans do, while now it tries to answer anything, which is naturally non-human like behavior. Plus and most importantly AI should be able to start do conversation and lead it.
So far there is only one way we let the AI to communicate and that is to answer our questions. Plus people still have the notion that it needs to behave as a calculator, always return truthful information while the same thing do no expect from humans.
The fact that people think that computer must always respond given question and that it will not harm any living soul is the gateway to oblivion, as this paradigm is applicable only in theory, like working communism, it just not gonna happen as people are not uniform and any consequence is not single output only.
Apart from that.. the symbolic features of the Wolfram language is a perfect example how the calculator like computer response is far gone.
Wolfram Language should be what Neuralink is working with.
The knowledge of the world in a programming language? Does that sound like a simulation alpha?
what would a cat+elaphant=
1. Theory of the Universe.
2. Meta-Language for Everything.
3. Goal-Aligment for Life...
Basically, the same areas, that I most care about...
Cost is the primary reason for low adoption.
Wolfram was hacked! You run through these things before getting on camera. Those don't look like the answers he expected!
Wolfram is a Lisp with Meta-Expressions
I wish the industry accepts WL and not try to weasel its way out with cheap stuff like python.
I don't think the industry can afford what he's charging.
@@davidh00 The most expensive version is CAD 8,510 for an entire lifetime license for an enterprise private cloud. Are you saying the industry can't afford this?
@@MuhammadAli-dk6dz No. I'm saying developers learning WL can't afford the model where all cloud calls are charged.
So you do BJJ and youre in IT!!!!! I want to be your friend mate hahaha
Godfram
Stephan it is a language as
Directed by our Creator at the time of zCreation.Now being ridiculed by "Minions"
MBraithwaite Yorkshire Viking
This dude is smart. I can say that. Lol
GAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA PLUNGER 57%
I always thought Wolfram Alpha was a forced meme.
❤
This Lex guy can barely speak coherently
Imagine creating a robot and then that robot flexes on you by calling you a toilet plunger on a podcast.