Welcome to argentina in the 1930's, put a colored armband and shoot anyone who has a different color one, in case you can't find anyone to shoot, shoot your own team.
Fun fact: My grandad, Eugenio, who is turning 93 next week, worked most of his life in a rail station in Rosario, Arg, and met quite a lot of workers who were British immigrants, and when the war broke out, many of them went back to Britain to enlist in the Armed Forces. By the end of the war, only a handful of them actually came back. Also during the war, many British sailors who were off-duty often came here to hang out with their cousins that migrated, and during the night go visit the clandestine clubs to have some fun before going back to the sea. Another fun fact: my grand-grandfather Victor (Eugenio's father) claimed to have met Otto Skorzeny (German general, that led an assault during the battle of the Ardennes) once in a hotel in Buenos Aires, in 1958. He said that Otto had such an energic voice, that you could hear him talk from the other side of the hall. That's all I know about such event because Victor passed away long before I was born, otherwise I'd asked him about everything. EDIT 11/03/2023 R.I.P Eugenio Rosalén (1928 - 2023) Tuviste una larga y extraordinaria vida y te vamos a extrañar mucho, viejo querido, te fuiste tan repentinamente y sin previo aviso. Espero que la cálida compañía que te dimos entre toda la familia te haya sido de lo más reconfortante en estos últimos años. Buen viaje viejo querido!
@@ignaz-one7430 también escuché lo mismo... Después de la guerra se escapó a España donde pasó unos años allá, y luego se vino para Argentina a servir como guardaespaldas personal de Eva. Después de eso ni idea si se quedó o se fue, ni siquiera dónde murió. Tampoco sé cómo mi bisabuelo lo reconoció de tal forma que pudiese asegurar que fuese Skorzeny, aunque también tengo mis teorías...
Otto Skorzeny, as in the SS Obersturmbannführer (lieutenant colonel) who helped get rid of Horthy, freed Mussolini, escaped from an internment camp in 1948, was offered a job as a military advisor to Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser, became an advisor to Argentinian president Juan Perón. Only to be allegedly be recruited the Mossad and conduct operations for the agency? That Otto Skorzeny?
@@2wodrqwoa most likely, bot he and my grand grandfather were almost the same age & phisical appearance (tall and robust). But how my grand grandfather managed to recognize Skorzeny is unknown to all. My grandfather (Victor's son) wasn't with him at the time, and doesn't know that much about the war and it's notable figures and neither he cares.
@@gorilmod9667 An old wehrmacht general. Many wehrmacht officers took part in the creation of the Bundeswehr, aswell. Heusinger, Speidel, Manteuffel, etc.
@@shaider1982 the nazis who got stuck in Argentina after their warship got captured by the allied were pretty well hidden in the mountains of Cordoba, so yeah. Hidden.
Never ask a woman: *Her age* A man: *His salary* An Argentine: *His grandfather's SS rank* Edit: *An historical fact* In 1910 the German Army gave the Argentine Army a military march called "Alte Kameraden" on the occasion of the first centenary of its independence. In reciprocity, the Argentine Army authorized the German Army to use the "San Lorenzo March". This march was used in the military parade in Paris when Nazi Germany conquered France. Then, in 1964, the French President De Gaulle, who was a protagonist and war hero during the liberation of France, visited Argentina and it was then when the Argentine military band upon his arrival played the "San Lorenzo March" (XD) this made De Gaulle feel offended as he took it as a lack of respect. But still it was not enough to damage the diplomacy between Argentina and France.
@@090giver090 Chile modeled its army on the Prussian tradition, their navy on the English tradition, and their air force uses technology from the American air force. They might not have the biggest military in South America, but they certainly are number one in quality.
Argentine officers April 1982 : We have finally fulfilled our father’s dreams of invading ( Some) British Isles Royal Marines June 1982 : Didn’t Bloody work out much better than last time, did it mate ?
That's not even the final coup season. There were more in 1955, 1962, 1966 and 1976. Democracy has returned in 1983 and there have been no more coups so far. I really hope it stays that way...
Apparently when Chile tried to enter into a free trade agreement with Japan in the 90ies they discovered they had been formally at war with them since WW2. No one had bothered to remove the declaration of war.
Another fact is that immigration's a protected right in the Argentine constitution, so no matter who's in charge in Argentina, the border remained and still remains open to anyone who wishes, or dares, to live as an Argentine.
@@calibvr They still go there since living standards are simply better. Only Chile competes with 'em in that aspect, and they aren't nearly as welcoming or big.
In the last years of the war, two german sumbmarines surrendered to the Argentine navy in Mar del Plata and Buenos Aires. There's an old rumor about U-boats getting german officers to patagonian coasts in Río Negro
Nearly all of South America (as well as Central America) joined the war as soon as it was inevitable that Allies would be victorious. The Brazilians are perhaps the only ones who contributed more than a simple declaration of war and a bit of financial support. In World War I, Japan joined the Ententè against the Central Powers, losing about 400 people, yet they were still given a seat at the Paris Peace Conference. The Latin American countries likely realized that they, like Japan did in World War I, would be able to share in the spoils of war without sacrificing their youth.
@@jordanmorris5827 Japan joined WW1 to get some German islands, South American countries did not join WW2 out of gaining something for nothing, they joined because the US told them to or they will be locked diplomatically, Argentina got a gun lend-lease for joining the Allies + all members who declared war on Germany got a seat at the UN security council, so thats that.
Interesting video about my country Hilbert, I would like to add that Peron had fascist (as in Italian) leanings and he even went to Italy to meet Mussolini
As and argentinian I love how we as a nation are known for two things Our football players the 300 nazi dudes that came to our country and somehow made it new naziland
My mother was born and raised in Argentina during the 30s and 40s. She went to an English school in Buenos Aires. During the war, she remembered seeing the wreck of the Graf Spee in the Rio Plata.
that's not possible since it was scutled off the coast of Montevideo, not Buenos Aires. Montevideo's not visible from Buenos Aires, since it is 200 km's down river. That's over 4 hours by modern ferry away. Back in the day it was an overnight sail.
@@half-slav Necochea's Even further away, It's a 6 hour drive by highway south of Buenos Aires. Necochea's by the sea, Buenos Aires's by the river plate. These places are gigantic though, to give You an idea, You can't see the other Bank of the river plate from the Argentine side, it looks like an ocean.
I get annoyed how much foreigners tend to portray my country as some sort of secret Axis power. We simply remained neutral throughout the conflict because we didn't have much reason to join the war. In fact joining the war would've probably been a bad move, since Argentina was full of immigrants from throughout Europe and you couldn't please everyone (there even was a point in the early XX century where there were more immigrants living in Buenos Aires than people born in Argentina. Most of them from Italy, Spain and France, in that order). As you said we took in almost everyone escaping Europe from the conflict, to this day we have one of the largest Jewish communities in the world. But everyone just remembers the Nazis who escaped here, as if no other country took in Nazi criminals. Even major Ally contributors like the US gave asylum to Nazi.
@@historywithhilbert Pretty excited about that. You are one of the few anglophone RUclips channels which seem to have a complex understanding of the history of countries outside of Europe and North America.
I'm surprised there was no information on the Graf Spree (although she was scuttled in Montevideo) but at least the reaction to the closest military action to Argentina. But otherwise, a great video
You forgot to mention that Argentina held a nazi rally in 1938 to celebrate the Anschluss of Austria. Some 30 or 20K gathered in the Luna Park stadium. The pics with the giant swastikas makes it look like Nazi Germany.
True, those pictures are scary af. But remember something similar happened in the U.S. in Madison Square Garden ruclips.net/video/eq9yst4W-6c/видео.html. Unfortunately, nazism was cool before the war. Also, Ed Sheeran played in both venues. Coincidence? I think not.
And a lot of Ustase people too as Argentina had a big Croatian community even before the war and the ustase even had recruiters there in the 30s and 40s
Really good video, it´s nice to see someone talk about this and not round everything to just "it´s a nazi state nothing else" specially when the US pardoned several nazi scientists if they agreed to work on their nuclear projects
In 2006, I was on a trip in Argentina and stopped into a neighborhood barber shop to get a haircut. The guy who cut my hair looked to be in his 70s, and as we chatted, he told me was born in Austria. We talked about Argentina and the culture, and at one point I remembered to ask him about something I'd seen on one of the Argentine peso bills - "La Conquista del Desierto" or the Conquest of the Desert. He explained that it was a period in the 19th century when white settlers had moved into the remote, arid parts of central Argentina and, in his words, had 'exterminated' the Natives. I asked him why that was done, and his reply was "Well, of course, we had to exterminate them - they just wouldn't leave the white people alone." Needless to say, I have some suspicions about that guy's early life.
Excellent video as always! Though I have probably the smallest critique ever: the Argentinian army soldiers first appearing at 2:57. Their suspender buckle thingies are slightly off-center!
You have changed my impression about Argentina Hilbert. I never knew any of those facts about their jewish population or their acknowledgement of Israel It goes to show there are always 2 sides 2 a coin. Another great video Amigo 😎
Yeah, altought Argentina wasn't under a Nazi regime, the country was under a fascist dictatorship under Juan Domingo Perón from 1946 to 1955, very similar to franquist Spain and Salazar in Portugal, wasn't Nazi, but quite fascist
Peron was like Thanos in that way "All perfectly balanced" so a bunch of nazis and jew refugees in the same bag. Actually the son of Eichman dated a jewish girl...
@@LautaroArgentino ah yes i forgot how democratic is the putin regime, they have elections though...., didnt hitler also won the 1933 german elections ?
In some ways he had a point. During the Nuremberg trials one of the key charges against senior Nazis was effectively that they were complicit in starting the war which killed so many people by knowingly invading other countries. Peron merely suggested that the likes of the US, Britain, Russia and France accusing anyone of warmongering or launching unprovoked acts of aggression and invasion against other countries was outrageous hypocrasy. Which it was. The Nazis were guilty as hell, but Peron had a point.
Just one thing, about the pronunciation of Ramón Castillo; Argentinians pronounce "ll" and "y" (with the exception of "y" meaning "and") like "sh", not "I" or "l".. You should pronounce it "Ramón Castisho"
The guy took the actual effort of trying to pronounce the Spanish names "properly" to the point where he butchered Farrell's name. Farrell is an Irish surname and you would pronounce it the same way as you would in English. Pobre flaco.
Which amounts to almost nothing. I mean the war only really affected Brazil in helping to sell commodities overseas and getting financing for major investments in the local steel industry, helping create the basis for future industrialization.
You could have talked in a more detailed way about the story of the argentinians who joined the RAF. They were concentrated in the 164 Squadron. Also, the way you simplified the whole argentinian history from 1816 to 1861 like nothing happenned lol. The story of my country is very interesting. The River Plate region had several bloody civil wars, and also conventional wars among the countries here. Interesting stuff like the Anglo-French blockade of the River Plate, also called "Parana war" which are not very known by the anglo public. Sadly i dont know if there are any books about these subjects in english for you to read and the ones i know in english, like the ones published by Osprey, present a very summarized version.
Me as a brazilian I find it very interesting and funny how Argentina's army were modeled after the german wehrmacht in the first half of the last century, because we in Brazil had adopeted the french doctrine right after ww1. So it's just funny how here in South America there were two rival countries that looked like Germany and France all over again. Imagine if we had broke into war lol. (France would win again of course) xD
@@TheBahianoP1k As principais instituições de ensino do exército seguem uma formação Francesa. Desde o tempo em que o Brasil adotou essa doutrina nos anos 20 do século passado.
@@gb2629 I think Brazil can definitely win a war against Argentina in the present times because the brazilian Army are much better equiped at the moment, and it's a much larger force. And Argentina is facing economic turmoil resulting on the defunding of its military budget. Also given the territorial position of both countries Brazil has a clear upper hand.
The world: damn bro, how did you get that jet technology without help from the western or eastern nations?, you must have great national scientists!. Argentina: *scrambling to get nazi's new argie papers.* YEAH SURE AMIGO, WE TOTALLY HAVE A BIG SCIENTIFIC INDUSTRY TO CREATE ADVANCED JET FIGHTING AIRCRAFT YES.
The jews here un Buenos Aires have 2 entire neighbourhoods and a Football Club called Atlanta. Altanta's main rival is Chacarita which coincidentally has Nazi Germany's colours...
Actually there was no other coup after 1943, Ramirez had to resign because of some pressure. Especially after secretly talking about joining the axis and invading Brazil (a plan which was discovered). Farrell and Peron were both of the same mind, but they wanted to relief that pressure and ended up obeying the americans. And about the german uniforms, it's not due to the german immigration, it was part of a plan of modernization in the army following the german tradition as it was seen as the most successful.
As an argentinian, it always surprises me how everyone in the netherlands goes on and on about how the nazis escaped to argentina. In any case, it would be the non-useful nazis, as those were took in by both the americans and soviets. Priebke was caught in my hometown while he was the director of the german school (without changing his name) though, so there is some truth to that haha
In the Netherlands Argentina is also very well known for high inflation, the Falklands war, nationalising Respol and Evita Peron. Please note this is a tongue in cheek response.
@@jeanpierreviergever1417 jajaja, all the bad things XD Well, Argentina is made up of only bad things. At least i am happy people know more than "Maradona"
Argentina was basically a British colony economically speaking. That also explains why it fared so poorly in the second half of the 20th century, economically speaking, as the UK lost prominence in the world system and Argentina failed to decouple it's economy from wheat and meat and other products that it exported to the British (which the new superpower, the US, was a producer of instead of an importer).
@@FOLIPE main trading partner. No one was stoped from starting and runing a buissines selling ice to the pengwins. Exept it is a bad idea. Uk and argentina where and still are complementary economies. You dont usually find potatoe farmes selling potatoes to potato farmers. Australia, NZ kenya SA and many more where main trading partners of the Uk. They did not do that badly
What everyone seems to overlook is that Argentina had (and still does have) a long tradition of being a place of sanctuary. Very tolerant of immigrants looking to start over. And if those immigrants happen to be hated by whichever Colonial Power is most powerful right now, then that's absolutely fine. A bonus even. After all, Argentina was founded by men hated by Spain in much the same way the US was founded by those called traitor by the British. In some ways they considered it almost a mark of honour just as the US Founding Fathers did. So thumbing your nose at the biggest bully on the block goes back generations there. The US used to be like that too, but over time they BECAME the biggest bully on the block - throwing their weight around and expecting all the smaller nations to get in line and do as they are told or else. No wonder that Argentina didn't play ball. And for the US to blame and blockade them for showing the same rebellious spirit that founded their own country is hypocracy at best.
No sense including Brazil in this list of countries, because this country was one of the Allied States, with soldiers and pilotas in fighting in Europe, also sinkinb u-boats in the Atlantic.
Literally caries out a coup just to prevent the declaration of war to Germany. It should be noted 50/60 days after stalingrad surrender the surrender of Tunisia.
You know since so much of your 5 minute history episodes have been about modern insurgencies & paramilitaries, maybe cover the Yugoslav wars, for example the Croatian Republic of Herceg-Bosnia, Western Bosnia, the local Serb entities like Krajina, Eastern Slavonic, Republicans Srpska, or the Serb autonomous regions, or Serb militias like the Panthers under Ljubo Mauser, or Arkan’s Tigers
You should do a video on what Mexico did during WW2. Most people don't even know that a large amount of people in the us military at that time were of Mexican descent.
> Germanophile army commits a coup to stop the government from joining the British > puts a guy called Rawson in charge What could they have possibly meant by this?
Where did you find pictures of the Argentine army in ww2? I am trying to get a understanding of what every country on the south American continent uniforms looked like
Latin American countries were more or less dependent on the US or Britain. They were economically dominated by them and always in danger of becoming an object of US or British military intervention (actually Britain tried unsuccessfully to occupy Argentina after independence for acquiring a new colony for settlement in the beginning of the 19th c.). That's exemplified by the many US interventions in Central America. Germany was never a problem for them. They had no reasons for any hostility against Germany apart from giving in to US and British pressure or maybe speculating for German reparations. The German immigrant population was mostly poor and naturalized Germans never constituted politically aggressive and influential lobbies as some others did - neither in Argentina nor in Brazil or the US. German immigrants were politically as divers as Germans in Germany always had been. When the dismal situation in Germany after WW1 ultimately led to radicalization inclusive the rise of the Nazi movement that was also reflected by the political attitudes of German immigrants. But the division into several political directions always remained. Jewish emigrants from Nazi Germany had to avoid some specific Nazi strongholds but otherwise they always found German immigrant settlements where they could live without any problems if they wanted to live along in a German environment. Former high police, SS and SD officers had often been involved in the Holocaust and other war crimes. Actually most remained in Germany. Being on an Allied war criminal list doesn't prove that someone was actually a war criminal but these officers knew that they actually were and had good reasons to leave Germany in the postwar period. They were often helped by the Catholic Church because they were regarded "heroes of the fight against Communism" and by the CIA who wanted to provide South American countries with experts for fighting Communism. But the number was actually rather small and there is no justification to confuse them with the many German immigrants or with experts who were later recruited by the Argentine government (the long deceased father of a college mate of mine was officer of the German Army in WW2 and of the West German Army; in the 1950s he was offered a high position in Argentina because of his military expertise). Therefore there is no justification for the the continuing defamation of German immigrants to South America mostly by countless reports and websites of the Anglosphere. Millions are vilified because of some 100s or a few 1000s of war criminals or other former NS officers.
Brazil's sent 5.000 troops to fight in Europe (Italy, 1043), and the navy and airforce from 1942 took part in the Battle of the Atlantic. A total of almost 26.000 Brazilian personnel participated, on Allied side, in WWII.
Hold on, What I know Guatemala was the firsts country in Latin America to recognize Israel as a country, Guatemala was one of the countries that recognize Israel as a country
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When Argentinian Army coups their own coup you know shit gets real
Welcome to argentina in the 1930's, put a colored armband and shoot anyone who has a different color one, in case you can't find anyone to shoot, shoot your own team.
As a argentine
It happened a bunch of times in our history
It is something... how to say it... sad and hilarious at the same time
It's because the Army was ideologically divided between Nationalists, "Radicales" and Liberals.
@@ezed8748 True Argentine are of Spanish origin
Fun fact: My grandad, Eugenio, who is turning 93 next week, worked most of his life in a rail station in Rosario, Arg, and met quite a lot of workers who were British immigrants, and when the war broke out, many of them went back to Britain to enlist in the Armed Forces. By the end of the war, only a handful of them actually came back.
Also during the war, many British sailors who were off-duty often came here to hang out with their cousins that migrated, and during the night go visit the clandestine clubs to have some fun before going back to the sea.
Another fun fact: my grand-grandfather Victor (Eugenio's father) claimed to have met Otto Skorzeny (German general, that led an assault during the battle of the Ardennes) once in a hotel in Buenos Aires, in 1958. He said that Otto had such an energic voice, that you could hear him talk from the other side of the hall. That's all I know about such event because Victor passed away long before I was born, otherwise I'd asked him about everything.
EDIT 11/03/2023
R.I.P Eugenio Rosalén (1928 - 2023)
Tuviste una larga y extraordinaria vida y te vamos a extrañar mucho, viejo querido, te fuiste tan repentinamente y sin previo aviso. Espero que la cálida compañía que te dimos entre toda la familia te haya sido de lo más reconfortante en estos últimos años. Buen viaje viejo querido!
Creo que Otto Skorzeny tambien habia sido el Guardaespaldas de Eva Peron si no me equivoco
@@ignaz-one7430 también escuché lo mismo... Después de la guerra se escapó a España donde pasó unos años allá, y luego se vino para Argentina a servir como guardaespaldas personal de Eva. Después de eso ni idea si se quedó o se fue, ni siquiera dónde murió.
Tampoco sé cómo mi bisabuelo lo reconoció de tal forma que pudiese asegurar que fuese Skorzeny, aunque también tengo mis teorías...
Otto Skorzeny, as in the SS Obersturmbannführer (lieutenant colonel) who helped get rid of Horthy, freed Mussolini, escaped from an internment camp in 1948, was offered a job as a military advisor to Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser, became an advisor to Argentinian president Juan Perón. Only to be allegedly be recruited the Mossad and conduct operations for the agency? That Otto Skorzeny?
@@2wodrqwoa most likely, bot he and my grand grandfather were almost the same age & phisical appearance (tall and robust). But how my grand grandfather managed to recognize Skorzeny is unknown to all. My grandfather (Victor's son) wasn't with him at the time, and doesn't know that much about the war and it's notable figures and neither he cares.
My brother in law is from Rosario. (Pelegríni)
Yanks: "haha Argentina hid nazis lol"
NASA: "yeah, how dare you" *heavy sweating*
Hid? They even showed them in TV. NASA promoted one to a high position. Even had a collab video with a former ww1 ambulance driver turned cartoonist.
@@shaider1982 wasn't literally one of the United nations military leader an old nozi leader???
@@gorilmod9667 An old wehrmacht general. Many wehrmacht officers took part in the creation of the Bundeswehr, aswell. Heusinger, Speidel, Manteuffel, etc.
@@TheRadPlayer Makes sense, you would take any good generals you can get after your left with basically no military, East germany did this as well.
@@shaider1982 the nazis who got stuck in Argentina after their warship got captured by the allied were pretty well hidden in the mountains of Cordoba, so yeah. Hidden.
Never ask a woman: *Her age*
A man: *His salary*
An Argentine: *His grandfather's SS rank*
Edit:
*An historical fact*
In 1910 the German Army gave the Argentine Army a military march called "Alte Kameraden" on the occasion of the first centenary of its independence.
In reciprocity, the Argentine Army authorized the German Army to use the "San Lorenzo March".
This march was used in the military parade in Paris when Nazi Germany conquered France.
Then, in 1964, the French President De Gaulle, who was a protagonist and war hero during the liberation of France, visited Argentina and it was then when the Argentine military band upon his arrival played the "San Lorenzo March" (XD) this made De Gaulle feel offended as he took it as a lack of respect. But still it was not enough to damage the diplomacy between Argentina and France.
Lol
Or what did the Peron's actually do Psst Evita no one cried for you.
That's hilarious
Lmao nice
Nice profile pic
Wehrmacht: How many Stahlhelm helmets do you want?
Argentine Army: Yes.
Chilean army: hold my pikelhaube.
And also dont forget the Prussians of the orient , early 1900s Afghanistan army also was doing this.
@@090giver090 Chile modeled its army on the Prussian tradition, their navy on the English tradition, and their air force uses technology from the American air force. They might not have the biggest military in South America, but they certainly are number one in quality.
@@jordanmorris5827 Yes. But they still love them their stahlhelms :)
Argentine officers April 1982 : We have finally fulfilled our father’s dreams of invading ( Some) British Isles
Royal Marines June 1982 : Didn’t Bloody work out much better than last time, did it mate ?
Argentina joining at the tail end of the war: Participation Prize and Free Goodies from Uncle Sam.
He's that one guy from the group project.
@Zeno the Filipino Brazil actually fought in Italy and quite well as far as i remember
Trust me, the only prize we got from uncle Sam was a coup, actually four coups
@@alexiapissi what! Four coups of coffee?
And the free non compensated grab of German property by government officials. You need that new car... some work, others steal
How many coups do you want?
Argentine Army:Yes
More than turkey?
@@morisco56 Not as many as Bolivia
That's not even the final coup season. There were more in 1955, 1962, 1966 and 1976. Democracy has returned in 1983 and there have been no more coups so far. I really hope it stays that way...
As an Argentine the craziest thing to me is that we declared war on Japan its just so funny to say
who can forget the many tragedies of the Argenti-Japanese war
@@demilembias2527 hahaha im glad there was no bullets shot.. Cuz i fucking love Japan
@@demilembias2527 so many dead. What a horrific incident.
Apparently when Chile tried to enter into a free trade agreement with Japan in the 90ies they discovered they had been formally at war with them since WW2. No one had bothered to remove the declaration of war.
it was a war of sun flag against sun flag
Another fact is that immigration's a protected right in the Argentine constitution, so no matter who's in charge in Argentina, the border remained and still remains open to anyone who wishes, or dares, to live as an Argentine.
That's why our country is being enriched with the exotic smells of our brown brethren from the north. Sad.
This is pretty cool, maybe it’s not just a den of nazis. A permanent refuge. That’s pretty baller
@@joestendel1111 i mean, the peronists are economically illiterate, so not that many come there
@@calibvr They still go there since living standards are simply better. Only Chile competes with 'em in that aspect, and they aren't nearly as welcoming or big.
@@stproducciones9140 wow spoken like a true nazi
In the last years of the war, two german sumbmarines surrendered to the Argentine navy in Mar del Plata and Buenos Aires. There's an old rumor about U-boats getting german officers to patagonian coasts in Río Negro
Argentina during WW2 was basically the kid who gets credit for the group school project but who did nothing 🤣
Nearly all of South America (as well as Central America) joined the war as soon as it was inevitable that Allies would be victorious. The Brazilians are perhaps the only ones who contributed more than a simple declaration of war and a bit of financial support. In World War I, Japan joined the Ententè against the Central Powers, losing about 400 people, yet they were still given a seat at the Paris Peace Conference. The Latin American countries likely realized that they, like Japan did in World War I, would be able to share in the spoils of war without sacrificing their youth.
@@jordanmorris5827 Brazil also joined WW1 as only south american country.
argentina sell weapons and food to the british at lower prices
DJ kahled would be proud.
@@jordanmorris5827 Japan joined WW1 to get some German islands, South American countries did not join WW2 out of gaining something for nothing, they joined because the US told them to or they will be locked diplomatically, Argentina got a gun lend-lease for joining the Allies + all members who declared war on Germany got a seat at the UN security council, so thats that.
Interesting video about my country Hilbert, I would like to add that Peron had fascist (as in Italian) leanings and he even went to Italy to meet Mussolini
He lived there several years as military atacche
he was a corporatist populist
@@ElGranDoTe1 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist China IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO Project before it's too late
@@matpk ¿?
Fascinating video about a country I love. I am a Canadian who visited Argentina twice in the 1990's. Very interesting history. Thank you.
As and argentinian I love how we as a nation are known for two things
Our football players
the 300 nazi dudes that came to our country and somehow made it new naziland
Only 300 ! ! ! Ships not people
What about Tango?
@@xJavelin1 fuck, I forgot it, also with bad representation of political figures
Bienvenido a Nazintina JAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJA
JAJAJA that's true. Living outside Argentina being tall, blonde with blue eyes I get accused of being related to Nazis that escaped to Argentina
My mother was born and raised in Argentina during the 30s and 40s. She went to an English school in Buenos Aires. During the war, she remembered seeing the wreck of the Graf Spee in the Rio Plata.
that's not possible since it was scutled off the coast of Montevideo, not Buenos Aires.
Montevideo's not visible from Buenos Aires, since it is 200 km's down river. That's over 4 hours by modern ferry away. Back in the day it was an overnight sail.
@@MrBao-yt7bk True. I recall reading about the SS Ussukuma being found scuttled about 60 miles off Necochea. Perhaps that was what she saw?
@@half-slav Necochea's Even further away, It's a 6 hour drive by highway south of Buenos Aires.
Necochea's by the sea, Buenos Aires's by the river plate. These places are gigantic though, to give You an idea, You can't see the other Bank of the river plate from the Argentine side, it looks like an ocean.
@@MrBao-yt7bk She didn’t see it from BA. She and my grandmother often went to a popular beach in Montevideo where she saw it
I get annoyed how much foreigners tend to portray my country as some sort of secret Axis power. We simply remained neutral throughout the conflict because we didn't have much reason to join the war. In fact joining the war would've probably been a bad move, since Argentina was full of immigrants from throughout Europe and you couldn't please everyone (there even was a point in the early XX century where there were more immigrants living in Buenos Aires than people born in Argentina. Most of them from Italy, Spain and France, in that order).
As you said we took in almost everyone escaping Europe from the conflict, to this day we have one of the largest Jewish communities in the world. But everyone just remembers the Nazis who escaped here, as if no other country took in Nazi criminals. Even major Ally contributors like the US gave asylum to Nazi.
I think it's mostly because people actually thought that Hitler lived in Argentina
I think more Latin countries that aren’t Mexico or Spain need more attention. They’re very interesting.
Latin countries? The only country which you can call latin was Rome.
Many thanks! Got one coming on Brazil and would like to look at Bolivia too!
Well colombia is rather famous...although that is hardly a good thing really.
Spain isn't a Latin country....
@@historywithhilbert Pretty excited about that. You are one of the few anglophone RUclips channels which seem to have a complex understanding of the history of countries outside of Europe and North America.
Hilbert? Un capo
Usa: Argentina, you are neutral, right?
Argentina: Well, yes, but actually no.
Usa: Switzerland?
Switzerland: ...no comment...
Jajaja
I'm surprised there was no information on the Graf Spree (although she was scuttled in Montevideo) but at least the reaction to the closest military action to Argentina. But otherwise, a great video
Awesome video Hilbert I really like this series it’s super interesting and you always explain everything in a clear and entertaining way !
Always enjoy hearing Dr. Mark Felton and his work referenced!
You never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, and an Argentinian why they have a German surname.
Also don’t ask them why Maradona is such a cheat
I'm from Argentina, my surname is Allendorff...
@@sebastiangreyallendorff4724 Ah, a kamerad I see
@@sebastiangreyallendorff4724 you have a nazi grandpa.
@@morisco56 Nah, He and his wife arrived as journalist, at least that is what their passports say
You forgot to mention that Argentina held a nazi rally in 1938 to celebrate the Anschluss of Austria. Some 30 or 20K gathered in the Luna Park stadium. The pics with the giant swastikas makes it look like Nazi Germany.
True, those pictures are scary af. But remember something similar happened in the U.S. in Madison Square Garden ruclips.net/video/eq9yst4W-6c/видео.html. Unfortunately, nazism was cool before the war. Also, Ed Sheeran played in both venues. Coincidence? I think not.
@@alexiapissi 😂😂😂
@@alexiapissi No Germanssss in Argentina 🇦🇷🤜🇩🇪
oh boy can;t wait to read the comment section
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Hi
10 comments in and seems fine... for now.
@@historywithhilbert Compare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist China IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO Project before it's too late
And a lot of Ustase people too as Argentina had a big Croatian community even before the war and the ustase even had recruiters there in the 30s and 40s
Also to Australia, don't forget the Anglos!
Really good video, it´s nice to see someone talk about this and not round everything to just "it´s a nazi state nothing else" specially when the US pardoned several nazi scientists if they agreed to work on their nuclear projects
Elani I’m Glad We Pardoned Ex Nazis There’s Nothing Wrong With That Communist Pig!!!!!!!
Things that go together like jelly and peanut butter:
A video about Argentina with a stereotypical caribbean rhythm as background music.
In 2006, I was on a trip in Argentina and stopped into a neighborhood barber shop to get a haircut. The guy who cut my hair looked to be in his 70s, and as we chatted, he told me was born in Austria. We talked about Argentina and the culture, and at one point I remembered to ask him about something I'd seen on one of the Argentine peso bills - "La Conquista del Desierto" or the Conquest of the Desert. He explained that it was a period in the 19th century when white settlers had moved into the remote, arid parts of central Argentina and, in his words, had 'exterminated' the Natives. I asked him why that was done, and his reply was "Well, of course, we had to exterminate them - they just wouldn't leave the white people alone." Needless to say, I have some suspicions about that guy's early life.
Definitely had nazi connection
Argentine kid: grandpa do you speak German?
Grandpa: Nein
Go back to Germany 🇦🇷🤜🇩🇪
Excellent video as always! Though I have probably the smallest critique ever: the Argentinian army soldiers first appearing at 2:57. Their suspender buckle thingies are slightly off-center!
The Argentine military after their president decided to cooperate with the British: Alright we believe you, but our tommy gun wont.
ARGENTINA.
Awesome video as usual and loved the Mark Felton shoutout. Dude is an icon.
Solid vid. Solid commentary. Keep it up👌🏼
You have changed my impression about Argentina Hilbert.
I never knew any of those facts about their jewish population or their acknowledgement of Israel
It goes to show there are always 2 sides 2 a coin. Another great video Amigo 😎
Yeah, altought Argentina wasn't under a Nazi regime, the country was under a fascist dictatorship under Juan Domingo Perón from 1946 to 1955, very similar to franquist Spain and Salazar in Portugal, wasn't Nazi, but quite fascist
Peron was like Thanos in that way "All perfectly balanced" so a bunch of nazis and jew refugees in the same bag. Actually the son of Eichman dated a jewish girl...
@@dsv0045 ah yes, a government elected through democratic means is definitely the same as a fascist dictatorship.
@@LautaroArgentino ah yes i forgot how democratic is the putin regime, they have elections though...., didnt hitler also won the 1933 german elections ?
@@dsv0045 no, Hitler did not win the elections. Nazis reaching power through democratic means is a narrative which is untrue.
Perón famously said that he thought the Nuremburg Trials were unfair
In some ways he had a point. During the Nuremberg trials one of the key charges against senior Nazis was effectively that they were complicit in starting the war which killed so many people by knowingly invading other countries. Peron merely suggested that the likes of the US, Britain, Russia and France accusing anyone of warmongering or launching unprovoked acts of aggression and invasion against other countries was outrageous hypocrasy. Which it was. The Nazis were guilty as hell, but Peron had a point.
Really nice bro!!
Just one thing, about the pronunciation of Ramón Castillo; Argentinians pronounce "ll" and "y" (with the exception of "y" meaning "and") like "sh", not "I" or "l"..
You should pronounce it "Ramón Castisho"
The guy took the actual effort of trying to pronounce the Spanish names "properly" to the point where he butchered Farrell's name. Farrell is an Irish surname and you would pronounce it the same way as you would in English. Pobre flaco.
@@mrbomb2815 lol, you're right
No rompas los hue esta bien como lo dijo
Dr. Mark Felton mentioned, insta like.
“The Soviets doing their thing in the east” you mean winning the war for everyone? Lol
talk about Brazil next please they did the most when it came countries in South America in WW2
Which amounts to almost nothing. I mean the war only really affected Brazil in helping to sell commodities overseas and getting financing for major investments in the local steel industry, helping create the basis for future industrialization.
I love your channel...thank YOU!
You could have talked in a more detailed way about the story of the argentinians who joined the RAF. They were concentrated in the 164 Squadron.
Also, the way you simplified the whole argentinian history from 1816 to 1861 like nothing happenned lol. The story of my country is very interesting. The River Plate region had several bloody civil wars, and also conventional wars among the countries here. Interesting stuff like the Anglo-French blockade of the River Plate, also called "Parana war" which are not very known by the anglo public.
Sadly i dont know if there are any books about these subjects in english for you to read and the ones i know in english, like the ones published by Osprey, present a very summarized version.
I feel like us British have so many wars to learn about the smaller ones just get overlooked
Excellent doc
How could Argentine involvement in the war be bad for the economy? Doesn’t the 35th rule of acquisition say that war is good for business?
Either that or "peace is good for business" - it's easy to get those two mixed up
Performing two coup d'etats in a row - out of fear of losing your fashion style.
Could you please do a video about Portugal in WW2 please?
Me as a brazilian I find it very interesting and funny how Argentina's army were modeled after the german wehrmacht in the first half of the last century, because we in Brazil had adopeted the french doctrine right after ww1. So it's just funny how here in South America there were two rival countries that looked like Germany and France all over again. Imagine if we had broke into war lol. (France would win again of course) xD
Qual influência pegamos dos franceses?
@@TheBahianoP1k As principais instituições de ensino do exército seguem uma formação Francesa. Desde o tempo em que o Brasil adotou essa doutrina nos anos 20 do século passado.
Would France win again? in reference to which Brazil would win again? I will never win a war against Argentina and vice versa
@@gb2629 I think Brazil can definitely win a war against Argentina in the present times because the brazilian Army are much better equiped at the moment, and it's a much larger force. And Argentina is facing economic turmoil resulting on the defunding of its military budget. Also given the territorial position of both countries Brazil has a clear upper hand.
@@saintpinewood562 Ah, but you are speaking today, I am speaking historically.
Would love to see you do a video about Pitcairn during WWII
4 Hour special!
"I'm Jim. What's your name?"
"Robustian"
Great video mate. One thing though, Malvinas (Falklands) aren't British, they are occupied by the British but they belong to Argentina...
That's disputable
You lost.
No they are British we occupied them before Argentina became a country
So you have summoned us...
The world: damn bro, how did you get that jet technology without help from the western or eastern nations?, you must have great national scientists!.
Argentina: *scrambling to get nazi's new argie papers.* YEAH SURE AMIGO, WE TOTALLY HAVE A BIG SCIENTIFIC INDUSTRY TO CREATE ADVANCED JET FIGHTING AIRCRAFT YES.
how beatiful are the argentine woman i hope one day i meet one, greetings from desierto del yaguarete mimoso, argentina!
Wow I never knew Argentina had the highest Latino jewish population
The jews here un Buenos Aires have 2 entire neighbourhoods and a Football Club called Atlanta. Altanta's main rival is Chacarita which coincidentally has Nazi Germany's colours...
@@PlatineMapper lol
interesting video
Ukiah Goni's The Real Odessa is one crackerjack of a good book on this sordid subject. The footnotes are more than a little revealing!
Quando escuchas a tu abuelo hablar por el cellular en Aleman...
Actually there was no other coup after 1943, Ramirez had to resign because of some pressure. Especially after secretly talking about joining the axis and invading Brazil (a plan which was discovered). Farrell and Peron were both of the same mind, but they wanted to relief that pressure and ended up obeying the americans. And about the german uniforms, it's not due to the german immigration, it was part of a plan of modernization in the army following the german tradition as it was seen as the most successful.
As an argentinian, it always surprises me how everyone in the netherlands goes on and on about how the nazis escaped to argentina. In any case, it would be the non-useful nazis, as those were took in by both the americans and soviets. Priebke was caught in my hometown while he was the director of the german school (without changing his name) though, so there is some truth to that haha
Nazi sympathizing, war losing Argentina took whoever they could take from the 3rd Reich. no morals, never have had them.
In the Netherlands Argentina is also very well known for high inflation, the Falklands war, nationalising Respol and Evita Peron. Please note this is a tongue in cheek response.
@@jeanpierreviergever1417 jajaja, all the bad things XD
Well, Argentina is made up of only bad things. At least i am happy people know more than "Maradona"
Otto Skorzeny was the bodyguard of Eva Peron in fact, for a small curiosity, and Josef Mengele was hiding here as well
@@ignaz-one7430 Mengele spent most of his time in Brazil, eventually dying here in 1979.
Based Argentina
Where did you get the information of the USA invading Argentina? i can't seem to find nothing about it
Makes sense nevertheless. The zog empire would want to invade.
I had no idea there was significant support for the British, that's interesting
At the time Anglo Argentines where the backbone of the economy and infrastructure
@@ElGranDoTe1 not surprising
Argentina was basically a British colony economically speaking. That also explains why it fared so poorly in the second half of the 20th century, economically speaking, as the UK lost prominence in the world system and Argentina failed to decouple it's economy from wheat and meat and other products that it exported to the British (which the new superpower, the US, was a producer of instead of an importer).
@@FOLIPE very interesting, i never knew that
@@FOLIPE main trading partner. No one was stoped from starting and runing a buissines selling ice to the pengwins. Exept it is a bad idea. Uk and argentina where and still are complementary economies. You dont usually find potatoe farmes selling potatoes to potato farmers. Australia, NZ kenya SA and many more where main trading partners of the Uk. They did not do that badly
0:04 "The italians not being very useful", Hahahahahaha! So true!
Funny
Eichmann wasn't just put on trial and hanged. He was found guilty first. You make it seem that he was just hanged without being found guilty.
In case of doubt in Argentina: COUP TIME.
Talk about China, they don't get enough credit considering 1,000,000+ people died
What everyone seems to overlook is that Argentina had (and still does have) a long tradition of being a place of sanctuary. Very tolerant of immigrants looking to start over. And if those immigrants happen to be hated by whichever Colonial Power is most powerful right now, then that's absolutely fine. A bonus even. After all, Argentina was founded by men hated by Spain in much the same way the US was founded by those called traitor by the British. In some ways they considered it almost a mark of honour just as the US Founding Fathers did. So thumbing your nose at the biggest bully on the block goes back generations there. The US used to be like that too, but over time they BECAME the biggest bully on the block - throwing their weight around and expecting all the smaller nations to get in line and do as they are told or else. No wonder that Argentina didn't play ball. And for the US to blame and blockade them for showing the same rebellious spirit that founded their own country is hypocracy at best.
Good video. Incorrect US flag, during wwii.
Farrell is pronounced like Barrel, it's not a Spanish name
Please do Brazil next!
No sense including Brazil in this list of countries, because this country was one of the Allied States, with soldiers and pilotas in fighting in Europe, also sinkinb u-boats in the Atlantic.
hahaha these argentinians are so crazy, great video tho, learned a lot about these weird folk. greetings from Argentina jaja
7:52 I found it funny you couldnt pronounce an anglo surname like "farrell"
You should do some middle eastern countries
But in the cold war era, as they were more relevant in that time.
Literally caries out a coup just to prevent the declaration of war to Germany. It should be noted 50/60 days after stalingrad surrender the surrender of Tunisia.
10:36 Saying that the nazi scientists were welcomed by the Soviets is funny, all things considered.
My great grandfather, he'd never answer questions... Haha.
Which one of the Hungarian Rhapsody did you use in the beginning around 1:05?
I love this video. my family escaped the Nazis to Argentina from Bavaria in 1935.
So they jumped from the fire into the frying pan
You know since so much of your 5 minute history episodes have been about modern insurgencies & paramilitaries, maybe cover the Yugoslav wars, for example the Croatian Republic of Herceg-Bosnia, Western Bosnia, the local Serb entities like Krajina, Eastern Slavonic, Republicans Srpska, or the Serb autonomous regions, or Serb militias like the Panthers under Ljubo Mauser, or Arkan’s Tigers
You should do a video on what Mexico did during WW2. Most people don't even know that a large amount of people in the us military at that time were of Mexican descent.
The flying Aztecs(Mexico) and the smoking snakes(Brazil) don’t get enough credit as co equals with Canada and the 🇺🇸
> Germanophile army commits a coup to stop the government from joining the British
> puts a guy called Rawson in charge
What could they have possibly meant by this?
We were fuckin chilling lol
Brazil next!
che unos subtitulos en español mijo? aguanten los argenitnos, saludos desde argentina!
Number 2
You're all number 1 to me.
I like Mark Feltons Vids.
Please do Brazil.
MARK FELTON !!!
Where did you find pictures of the Argentine army in ww2? I am trying to get a understanding of what every country on the south American continent uniforms looked like
I think he is in Argentina
Latin American countries were more or less dependent on the US or Britain. They were economically dominated by them and always in danger of becoming an object of US or British military intervention (actually Britain tried unsuccessfully to occupy Argentina after independence for acquiring a new colony for settlement in the beginning of the 19th c.). That's exemplified by the many US interventions in Central America. Germany was never a problem for them. They had no reasons for any hostility against Germany apart from giving in to US and British pressure or maybe speculating for German reparations.
The German immigrant population was mostly poor and naturalized Germans never constituted politically aggressive and influential lobbies as some others did - neither in Argentina nor in Brazil or the US.
German immigrants were politically as divers as Germans in Germany always had been. When the dismal situation in Germany after WW1 ultimately led to radicalization inclusive the rise of the Nazi movement that was also reflected by the political attitudes of German immigrants. But the division into several political directions always remained. Jewish emigrants from Nazi Germany had to avoid some specific Nazi strongholds but otherwise they always found German immigrant settlements where they could live without any problems if they wanted to live along in a German environment.
Former high police, SS and SD officers had often been involved in the Holocaust and other war crimes. Actually most remained in Germany. Being on an Allied war criminal list doesn't prove that someone was actually a war criminal but these officers knew that they actually were and had good reasons to leave Germany in the postwar period. They were often helped by the Catholic Church because they were regarded "heroes of the fight against Communism" and by the CIA who wanted to provide South American countries with experts for fighting Communism. But the number was actually rather small and there is no justification to confuse them with the many German immigrants or with experts who were later recruited by the Argentine government (the long deceased father of a college mate of mine was officer of the German Army in WW2 and of the West German Army; in the 1950s he was offered a high position in Argentina because of his military expertise).
Therefore there is no justification for the the continuing defamation of German immigrants to South America mostly by countless reports and websites of the Anglosphere. Millions are vilified because of some 100s or a few 1000s of war criminals or other former NS officers.
Ramón Casti"sho"
Loved this video could you do a video on Kenya or Tanzania or other African nations.
Well I know what happened after the war.
Hi
i’d like to see a vid on what mexico or brazil did in ww2
(i’m guessing they tried to stay as neutral as possible during ww2)
Mexico did join the U.S in Ww2 in fact they even had pilot fighters trained by the U.S and went at it against Japan
Brazil's sent 5.000 troops to fight in Europe (Italy, 1043), and the navy and airforce from 1942 took part in the Battle of the Atlantic. A total of almost 26.000 Brazilian personnel participated, on Allied side, in WWII.
Hold on, What I know Guatemala was the firsts country in Latin America to recognize Israel as a country, Guatemala was one of the countries that recognize Israel as a country
When you ask your abuerro if ever been to germany.
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