as they say, it can take 10 years to understand one single kata. i hate it when people refer to kata as "dance" or "pointles" no it is an amazing tool for teaching techique, stance and focuse as well as real practical fighting. before you slate something please understand it. very nice bunkai in this clip.
Ideally you should spend time with Sensei Abernethy in the dojo - his DVD series is clever, innovative and helpful; but nothing quite compares with actually working through his practical drills with an opponent - and being on the receiving end teaches how shatteringly effective these combinations can be. Two days of this left me with loads of bruises and a treasiure-trove of new and inspiring ideas about the function of kata!
I am so pleased with the analogy to the alphabet. Just as you can place letters in a variety of sequences to form a variety of words, you can place individual movements from kata into a variety of combinations to achieve a range of techniques. "This or this or this," indeed.
There is a lot of stuff out there regarding kata applications, and there are many ways to interpret kata moves. Kata were only ever a 'toolbox' of moves. You can take what ever you want out of a kata and do what ever you want with it. The more you delve into kata, the more you will find
Your stuff is amazing. Did you deduce all this information on your own or did someone teach them to you. I have NEVER seen this kind of insight into kata applications, the way you are teaching them makes it seem useable, which , no disrespect to the art, never seemed realistic IMHO. Thanks for sharing!!
It’s not a “combination”, but a drill where the methods of the kata are being put end to end. It is the individual methods of that kata that would be applied in combat. Same with this drill. We use “covers and crash”, wrapping the arm and wedging to the side, etc all the time in sparring. Aside from specific sporting formats where certain methods are excluded, you see this stuff all the time.
@@practicalkatabunkai alright, so if it works for you then youre probably right. I was just wondering because i havent really seen such techniques in MMA or in my sparring history. and I might have no^t paid attention to 4:24 ^^
@@music-wd2yq I think you must have. You’ve never seen anyone clash in and clinch? Use the forearm to create a barrier? Drag an arm? Pull down an arm to create a gap for a punch? And so on. These are very common, so I’m guessing you may still be distracted by the fact the methods are in a flow drill in a specific order? Kata also gives an example of the method. That method is supposed to be varied to fit the exact needs to the situation. Loads of the past master wrote about this. As an example: “To create two-person drills containing all of the techniques including each and every one of their variations is impossible. However, if one practices kata correctly, it will serve as a foundation for performing - when a crucial time comes - any of the infinite number of variations.” - Kenwa Mabuni This is all in the early parts of the kata process. This video explains more: ruclips.net/video/y02d-QU_aoE/видео.html The point made at 4:24 is quickly made but I am pleased you caught it. I liken it to the alphabet: we put the letters in an order (a,b,c,d …) , but when we apply them in communication, we use the letters as needed (like I am doing writing this). The flow drill is therefore like children singing their abc’s: but no one uses the full alphabet in order in conversation. No one would argue people learning to write should not learn the alphabet simply because we don’t see “abc … xyz” is speaking or the written word. We get that knowing all the letters is a precursor to putting them in countless alternative orders as we communicate. Likewise, no one uses the kata and related bunkai flow drills in the same exact order. We are no supposed to. The way I summarise this is, “The learning order is not the application order”. A lot of the videos I share on RUclips are summary videos at the end of four-hour seminars. They therefore can’t capture all of what we did or how we did it. That’s why I value chats like this in the comments. They can give more detail and explanation that is missing from the video itself. Thanks for posting. All the best, Iain
He gets more right than wrong.... that said he reaches when it comes to Shotokan kata... again not really critiquing, he’s in a select group that has opened a lot pf people eyes on the truth of kata! .
With respect, there is more to karate than what JKA teaches. JKA itself is actually a proponent of modern karate, an organization that is only 67 years old....whereas karate in general has been in existence for the better part of 500 years. Furthermore, this gentleman is not a Shotokan practitioner. He got his beginnings in Wado-Ryu, which is influenced by Gichin Funakoshi's teachings before making the changes which led to the formation of Shotokan karate. Mr. Abernethy is just exploring and applying principles based on teachings and writings of karate pioneers like Funakoshi, Kenwa Mabuni, Anko Itosu and the like. However, he does take into account differences in kata across different styles and explore applications that reflect the differences. So while Shotokan is definitely a legitimate branch of karate, and has done much in the way of spreading karate worldwide, it is not the only valid branch or approach to karate principles and teachings. It is merely one branch on a very big tree.
Is it possible that the beginning of the kanku kata may be a mace (or nowadays baseball bat) defence? It looks very similar to ona of baseball bat defence: ruclips.net/video/wkwu-82daC4/видео.html Is there a defence against weapons in katas?
What I like about this bloke is that he's Down to Earth. Just nice simple workable applications and a common sense approach. What more can you ask?
as they say, it can take 10 years to understand one single kata. i hate it when people refer to kata as "dance" or "pointles" no it is an amazing tool for teaching techique, stance and focuse as well as real practical fighting. before you slate something please understand it. very nice bunkai in this clip.
Terrific Application to one of my favorite kata! You just made it even more meaningful to me.
Ideally you should spend time with Sensei Abernethy in the dojo - his DVD series is clever, innovative and helpful; but nothing quite compares with actually working through his practical drills with an opponent - and being on the receiving end teaches how shatteringly effective these combinations can be. Two days of this left me with loads of bruises and a treasiure-trove of new and inspiring ideas about the function of kata!
I am so pleased with the analogy to the alphabet. Just as you can place letters in a variety of sequences to form a variety of words, you can place individual movements from kata into a variety of combinations to achieve a range of techniques. "This or this or this," indeed.
There is a lot of stuff out there regarding kata applications, and there are many ways to interpret kata moves. Kata were only ever a 'toolbox' of moves. You can take what ever you want out of a kata and do what ever you want with it. The more you delve into kata, the more you will find
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Your stuff is amazing. Did you deduce all this information on your own or did someone teach them to you. I have NEVER seen this kind of insight into kata applications, the way you are teaching them makes it seem useable, which , no disrespect to the art, never seemed realistic IMHO. Thanks for sharing!!
When trying to understand the applications of kata, should you practice it's techniques in its original order to fully understand it?
i somehow cant imagine that youre able to do this in a fight or sparring situation
It’s not a “combination”, but a drill where the methods of the kata are being put end to end. It is the individual methods of that kata that would be applied in combat. Same with this drill. We use “covers and crash”, wrapping the arm and wedging to the side, etc all the time in sparring. Aside from specific sporting formats where certain methods are excluded, you see this stuff all the time.
@@practicalkatabunkai alright, so if it works for you then youre probably right. I was just wondering because i havent really seen such techniques in MMA or in my sparring history. and I might have no^t paid attention to 4:24 ^^
@@music-wd2yq I think you must have. You’ve never seen anyone clash in and clinch? Use the forearm to create a barrier? Drag an arm? Pull down an arm to create a gap for a punch? And so on. These are very common, so I’m guessing you may still be distracted by the fact the methods are in a flow drill in a specific order?
Kata also gives an example of the method. That method is supposed to be varied to fit the exact needs to the situation. Loads of the past master wrote about this. As an example:
“To create two-person drills containing all of the techniques including each and every one of their variations is impossible. However, if one practices kata correctly, it will serve as a foundation for performing - when a crucial time comes - any of the infinite number of variations.” - Kenwa Mabuni
This is all in the early parts of the kata process. This video explains more: ruclips.net/video/y02d-QU_aoE/видео.html
The point made at 4:24 is quickly made but I am pleased you caught it. I liken it to the alphabet: we put the letters in an order (a,b,c,d …) , but when we apply them in communication, we use the letters as needed (like I am doing writing this). The flow drill is therefore like children singing their abc’s: but no one uses the full alphabet in order in conversation. No one would argue people learning to write should not learn the alphabet simply because we don’t see “abc … xyz” is speaking or the written word. We get that knowing all the letters is a precursor to putting them in countless alternative orders as we communicate. Likewise, no one uses the kata and related bunkai flow drills in the same exact order. We are no supposed to. The way I summarise this is, “The learning order is not the application order”.
A lot of the videos I share on RUclips are summary videos at the end of four-hour seminars. They therefore can’t capture all of what we did or how we did it. That’s why I value chats like this in the comments. They can give more detail and explanation that is missing from the video itself. Thanks for posting. All the best, Iain
Awe inspiring.. Thank you for sharing!
I've never seen better kata applications.
Thanks Claude!
nice !!
He gets more right than wrong.... that said he reaches when it comes to Shotokan kata... again not really critiquing, he’s in a select group that has opened a lot pf people eyes on the truth of kata! .
ne plus faire le kata pour y trouver une application, c'est cool
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interesting but not traditional JKA
With respect, there is more to karate than what JKA teaches. JKA itself is actually a proponent of modern karate, an organization that is only 67 years old....whereas karate in general has been in existence for the better part of 500 years.
Furthermore, this gentleman is not a Shotokan practitioner. He got his beginnings in Wado-Ryu, which is influenced by Gichin Funakoshi's teachings before making the changes which led to the formation of Shotokan karate. Mr. Abernethy is just exploring and applying principles based on teachings and writings of karate pioneers like Funakoshi, Kenwa Mabuni, Anko Itosu and the like. However, he does take into account differences in kata across different styles and explore applications that reflect the differences.
So while Shotokan is definitely a legitimate branch of karate, and has done much in the way of spreading karate worldwide, it is not the only valid branch or approach to karate principles and teachings. It is merely one branch on a very big tree.
owh please, stop jokking, karate is karate tradition is only for japanese not for us at youtube.
Is it possible that the beginning of the kanku kata may be a mace (or nowadays baseball bat) defence?
It looks very similar to ona of baseball bat defence:
ruclips.net/video/wkwu-82daC4/видео.html
Is there a defence against weapons in katas?