Tamron lenses are the reason why I’m finally switching to full frame Sony. And by the way, I’ll buy this lens and I’m not going to use my camera on auto mode. You got that wrong.
Watching this again, because you’re so entertaining! I never shoot auto. I own the a7iii and both the 28-200 and 70-180 for 2 different situations:. 1.Travel, and all around :28-200. 2.For indoor sports the 70-180. Recently, I used the 28-200 indoors for an evening get together with the Godox TT350 and it worked fine. Thanks so much for your videos !
Even pros go on holiday occasionally! I think it would be a great travel lens. Instead of taking a 28-70, 70-200, you can just take this lens and not worry about having to swap lenses while you're walking around. Optical performance looks pretty fantastic, and it's light. Great lens for general use. Re manual vs auto: I think you have to use the camera modes appropriately. Same way eye-AF does a great job focussing on faces, if that's what you need, it's fine in some circumstances to let the camera do some of the work of computing correct exposure, with aperture or shutter priority. Manual is for when the camera won't do what you want (eg I always shoot live shows in theatres in manual cos I can't get the camera to expose reliably).
Yep, I needed a lens for wide to telephoto, I had around 800 to spend. I either could get a 28-70 kit and the 70-300, but still over budget, or this lens, which has a faster aperture than the first 2 and has that entire zoom range in a compact and light package, so I had to get this 😅
😂 I'm a "pro" and I want it.... I bought it! It is my only one zoom lens... it has a spot in my kit, just for casual and lazy shoot or for family trips 😄 it is good, good enough for outdoor reportage and paired with Sony it can handle also low light. Very sharp, reliable and light, can be leaved in the working kit with many primes, may be it came useful 😜
Am i the only one who is impressed about the fact that at 70mm its at F4... i mean its faster that a 24-70 F4 (except its not 24 at the wide end) and you still have a 70-200 F4-5.6 in the same lens. Its not for sure professional but its pretty impressive in my opinion.
Agree on that. It basicaly makes buying the 24-70 f4 total irrelavant (and so the 24-105 f4), and buying the 70-200 f4 mostly irrelavant, since what you are losing is 1/3 to 1 stop, depending on the focal lenght. Not to mention the fact that it's all in one lens. No one will call the 24-70f4 or the 70-200f4 for noobs like jared did with the 28-200, even though its faster than 24-70f4. And a little slower than a 70-200f4.
This is very true but the 24mm vs 28mm on the wide end is basically a deal breaker for an all in one lens for at least myself. The 4mm difference is very noticeable.
@@renefras2874 Well, if you'll look other reviews, you'll see how quickly this lens loses sharpness from center to the edge, on any focal length. After looking for a few in-depth reviews with picture analysis, I also see this lens as an "amateur only", because the overall image quality is just not good enough for professional shooting.
@@orlangurs yes, I guess that's often the case for these all-in-one lenses, still that new 24-200 Nikon Z-lens seems to have a pretty impressive image quality, but it is slower than this lens.
This is DEFINITELY being overlooked for professionals. I just bought one of these today, and I'm certainly no amateur who will be only shooting auto. From everything I could find from fellow professionals, everyone seemed to love this lens for the price.
When in Manual mode I normally keep ISO auto. Set the required Apperture and control ISO by rolling the shutter speed up and down! Some how this has always worked for me
Ha Jared, I think you underestimated the appetite for a lens such as this. While I don't consider myself a lowly, auto loving, "beginner" and do have a selection of good glass that I appreciate, I did go out and purchase this lens, much to my own surprise, primarily to use with my new A7c as a lightweight travel lens. I can't wait to try it out and plan on taking it along with the Tamron 17-28 and one small, fast prime. I , too, like to control the camera but I also don't want to curse my equipment and find the best lens/ camera for the job is the one that you are willing to carry with you! I think you came to reviewing this lens with a preconceived notion of its use case.
I def would say this lense is a good addition for anyone pro or not. Seems perfect for going out with the fam or some frineds and not worry about swapping lenses. It really looks like a pretty practical lense for a vacation or night out.
I finally bought this lens yesterday and it compares great to the Tamron 28-75, slightly softer towards 75 in comparison but not by much. From 28mm to 60mm very sharp, 120 to 200mm again gets very sharp. Very usable lens at all focal lengths all in all
I actually feel like this is being overlooked for professional use if you already have several fast primes. I’m considering replacing my 24-70 2.8 for this because of the sheer volume of keepers I could quickly get with decent light, and then switch to primes for specific uses and low light on the mid to long end. Has anyone else made a similar move and tried this out during paid gigs at weddings/events?
In fact, You're right. No all photographers need a constant f 2.8. In landscape photography, you avoid such apertures, using f8 or higher in order to get everything in focus.
exactly what i’m thinking. i might actually get rid of my 24-70 2.8 for this as i also have a 135 1.8 for when it gets dark/portraits. it’s as fast on the wide end and personally i won’t miss the 4mm lost, especially when there’s 130mm gained! it’s a new era for zoom lenses.
That's exactly what I do. Why Jared insists on manually controlling his ISO under ideal sun/cloud conditions as if it's 2003 and he'll outguess the camera is bizarre to me. Long exposures at night on a tripod, studio work with strobes/flashes, go as manual as you like. Otherwise, rock that Aperture-priority and focus on the subject 👍
@@MikeLikesChannel Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is an important thing to take into consideration. At least in my A7rii, a bigger ISO won't just give you more noise, but it will reduce the dynamic range. That is the main reason I keep it at a lower ISO and rarely use auto iso, since I want to take control of how much dynamic range I can get on what I'm shooting.
@@motttta I think the Mark 3+ models have a lot more DR regardless of ISO... my point of reference being the OG A7 from 2013 vs. my A7C, which is essentially an A7iii. I routinely shoot astro/nightscapes at ISO100-3200 depending on conditions and the DR is similar between them... in a Sony RAW, there's sooooo much DR to begin with.
I bought this lens foe photographing sculptural art at different angles, I really like it for that. From 28mm extremely close to the subject stepping back to 200mm with a distant backdrop, the sharpness and weight and versatility makes this a great choice when you want to photograph objects in a variety of tones. The bokeh is fine from my N perspective, low light isn’t the best but that’s the one noticeable off in my use estimation for something so well priced and lightweight that does a commendable job.
Not bad as a casual "catch all" lens, especially for the price. I think this is perfect for family gatherings, or travel where you want to keep your kit as minimal as possible.
This seems like it could be a pretty decent lens for a professional in my opinion. I film weddings (with up to 3 cameras) and have a bunch of primes but i'm interested in a light weight zoom to keep on hand. It has great weather sealing which the sigma 28-75 lacks. Its also a lot lighter than the sigma 24 - 70 and has the extra reach in case its needed for a long ceremony shot etc, It also has a pretty decent macro capability. Sure its not gonna have the bokeh and sharpness as having a pair of zooms but some pros will appreciate the light weight setup especially if they have some nice fast glass as well, and as a bonus makes a great travel and fun day out lens.
2:47 Jared Rant literally describing me buying this lens and Sony a7RV the night before an airshow because I didn't want to buy 2 diff lenses. Was just trying to figure out focus tracking honing in exposure with shutter speed at different apertures as I zoom in and out as planes are close 1 second and gone the next. Hovered around 200mm F5.6 and 1/2500 shutter speed most of the time, but because of the speed, couldn't change my shutter speed or incur blur, and wasn't fast enough to change ISO to compensate the change in stops on the zoom. Stayed at like ISO100 in the sun. Thank god for shooting raw and fixing exposures in LR. First time picking up a camera in 20 years, and first time using LR. What a weekend of learning. Jared's videos kicked started me and got some great photos. I think the Sony A7R V did heavy lifting with the focus tracking and airplane AI. For the money, if you are a noob like me, just buy it.
What nobody mention. If you get into the Sony full frame system or any other system, you struggle first time when you want more reach than 100mm. For 200mm, you have to buy a big and heavy 70-200, 70-300 or 100-400. This is the lightest "70-200" you can buy. And it is on par with image quality from the 70-200 G from Sony. For sure, the Sony is F4 but thats not the big deal for me. After buying this for 70-200 I stopped using my 28-75mm F2.8 Tamron. Having 3.2 at 50mm and 4.5 at 120 doesnt change the world for me. Sharpness at 28mm wide open is better on the 28-75 and on 2.8 it gathers at least 1/3 stop more light, but the results look very identical and you wont miss sharpness and its more for pixel peeping. Im suprised with the results of this lens. There wasnt any picture where I missed my old 28-75 or regret not taking my 70-180 2.8 at home (of course you get more magic blur with this). Maybe I will take this lens one day as a B lens to a wedding.
This lens is really interesting if you are in the market for such a lens. It is impressive for such a light and cheap lens, that it manages to be F2.8 at the wide end (which are probably on if you are indoors) and stays at around F4 until 100mm. This gives this type of lens even more flexibility than it already has because of it's focal range and would make for an incredible do it all lens that even beats the classic 24-105 F4 in some situations.
Yea, or someone who knows what they're doing but has limited money to spend on multiple lenses (along w/ not wanted to carry 5 on them). He was annoying closed minded ab this one smh
@@e.g.1218 At 28mm I don't see why not! Optically it's not ideal, but as long as the resolution of your camera is adequate and the photos are well composed, no reason you couldn't.
@@MrSwaggernaut83 Ok, thanks! I have a Sony 7rii. Hmm, maybe I'll look for an alternate lens though. Any suggestions for something that isn't crazy expensive?
@@e.g.1218 Hmm, I'm not super versed in landscape photography, but I think generally you're looking for wider lenses. Maybe you could try going the route of adapting lenses? You'll probably be shooting at higher apertures (so wider depth of field) and shooting nonmoving subjects so the manual focus shouldn't be an issue! You can find wide angles for plenty of different mounts, and then just buy an adapter to e-mount!
After watching your reviews, I bought this lens and I liked it. For low-light or sport events, it may not be the best lens, but someone like me, a parent who goes to kid's sport or musical event and take photos for memories, this is great. If I shoot photos more seriously, I will buy Nikon lens (I have Nikon camera) for its better focus & shutter speed.
I just ordered this lens to take with me to Universal Studios. I also do a lot of photography at my kids school, and I think it will be ideal for that. Not having to change lenses in certain situations is a big plus in my opinion.
IMO, manual + manual iso doesn’t really buy you anything over manual + auto iso, especially in a mirrorless camera. You can see the exposure real-time, and you can always roll the exposure-comp wheel up or down for that extra boost. (In the scenario of using a variable-ap zoom lens and/or shooting a dynamic subject.)
In my real world situations where I do not want the ISO being ramped up or too slow for the situation I am in, I will always set it. I understand there's limits you can put in but just like the reason I wont use priority modes any more, I wont use auto ISO. They both get thrown off by false meter readings.
@@froknowsphoto they wont get thrown off if you set custom bind to exposure lock and compensate with exposure dial from that. I really enjoy using this 'tactic'
This thing replaced my 28-75 *and* my 70-300. Of the photos I took in 2019 and 2020, only 6% were over 200mm. To me, that plainly said "buy a 28-200, and rent a Sony 200-600 when I specifically need the reach." I do have my beloved prime trinity, but to Jared's point, *man is this a convenient lens at the city zoo or Disney!!*
I bought this 28-200 and Tamron 17-28 f2.8. These two plus one Sony 35mm f1.4 GM and A7C are my favorite carry on kit for travel. The only thing it lacks is OSS that I wish for at 200mm end. But I also have a Sony 24-240 OSS, but the heavy weight and bulkiness deterred me from using it often, not to mention the inferior image quality. I recommend this lens to go with A7iii or A7C. I tried this lens on my A7R4 and this high resolution displays some unwanted distortion and color fringing that I don’t notice on A7C. I usually travel with Hasselblad 907X and Sony A7C, Hasselblad for landscape & portrait and A7C for everything else; and I prefer this is a lens over Sony zoom.
I didn't think I'd end up buying a Tamron, I bought the 17-28 F2.8 and now I'm considering this one. Its pretty nice for what you're paying for, Tamron is under rated in my opinion.
Hi, I like your reviews. Clear, trustfull en to the point. I keep struggling with a choice between the Tamrom 28-200 and the Sony 24-105. I like to shoot nature, animals in nature, portraits and all kind of events. I shoot almost always in good light conditions. If you, as a photographer with such a profile, have to choose between those lenses, witch one should you choose? And if picture quality is important? The price isn’t a big deal here in Belgium, with the current cashback on the Sony lenses the difference is more or less 200 dollar. Geert
Gee, I supposed when I am out hiking and want to go with minimal equipment and I decide to take this lens, does that mean I forget how to shoot in manual and only can shoot in auto? According to your view that must be the case
a different take. I'm an architecture and real estate photographer. My bread and butter lens is my 12-24mm. I also shoot wildlife and landscapes more for fun than money but I do shoot them. I have a 200-600mm as well. Currently I have the 28-75mm to fill the gap and have been considering the 70-180mm as well. But for what I'm shooting with this lens, it's stopped down and on a tripod (landscapes and arch work when I need longer than 24mm). So all I care about is the sunstars in can produce when needed for an arch shot with light sources in it. I had the sony 24-240mm but it's sunstars are junk. I've got this on order to see how it'll work. If it's no good I'll go with the 70-180 instead but that's adding $1000 to my kit and another lens to carry when for my use the variable aperture doesn't matter as long as it's IQ stopped down (and sunstars) look good.
Thanks for this vid showing up just days before I fully resigned to get the 24-240 behemoth. I got the Tamron, happy days are here again, along with extra cash not spent.
Okay so I was partly right as to what the new lens would be. Back when Dave McKeegan put out a speculation video, I said that it would likely be something along the lines of the 18-400mm APS-C lens they already have for DSLRs. As such, I expected this to be an APS-C lens, not a full-frame. Which if they'd made it specifically for APS-C, it probably would've allowed them to cut a lot off the price tag, which would better target those who would be most likely to buy this lens: those with the APS-C bodies.
It is a great walkaround even for a "Pro" when you are walking in the busy street of some Southern American cities or Eastern Europe when you don't want to come across an expensive tourist while taking pictures of artichectures.
I know there is copyright issues and what not but man now I really want to see an opening spoof scene about this lens over the opening LOTR music. "In the beginning Tamron produces 6 lenses. Unknown to the photographers there was a 7th lens. One lens to rule them all...."
Thank you for your informative video, great work on that! I am already thinking of adding this lens to my gear for my photo tours with extensive alpine hiking… I am wondering if you are on Dayflash to present your photos as good as possible with full frame high-res quality?
I was like "Why would a 2nd/3rd party 28-200 be better than 1st party 24-240" Then i listened to the video F2.8 at 28MM, and 5.6 at 200, my 24-240 at i think 100mm is at 6.3 To be honest, i'm looking for an 18-400 for sony APSC like their 18-400 for Canon that does not work very well when adapted to sony If i had something like that i wouldnt have missed so many shots because my 70-350 couldnt go wide enough when driving around(as a passenger) duing a recent record breaking rain storm For full frame i'd like something like a 35-350 at maybe F8 to keep it small enough for full frame. Dont get me wrong, i have a 150-600, and am going to get the 200-600, but many times i do NOT have the time to swap lenses. For that rainstorm situation i had several pictures i missed because i was too close for 70mm, and definately couldnt have punched in enough to get other shots with my 35mm. I endeed up pulling out both my A6400 and my A7iii
Superzooms are often just not into the realm of "pro", as the more multiplications of zoom bring more restrictions, usually optically. 28-200 is 7.14x zoom, the more professional variants of this lens are the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 and 70-180 F2.8. Those are 2.68x and 2.57x zoom, and at a constant F2.8 aperture. Though it comes at price, money spent and having to swap lenses.
you fkd it at the end man...we dont have money that doesnt mean we are not pro shooters. we use lenses that are affordable. a photographer is not determined pro or not pro by looking at the lenses that he uses but the work that he has done. its easy for you to sit there and talk and make money. for others, its all hardwork.
I'm not a professional, but I do shoot a few thousand shots a month of various subjects. This is one of my go-to lenses. It's sharp enough, fast enough, and light. And the zoom range covers pretty much everything except for wildlife or full field sports. I carry this and usually one or two other specialty lenses depending on where I'm going; however, this is always in my bag. The way to shoot this lens is with aperture mode, set a minimum shutter speed and auto ISO.
Fro's got this bizarre notion that you need manual mode in full daylight. You can rely on the computer to handle parts of the exposure triangle (especially ISO) under typical sun and clouds. Manual is great when the light goes down or the tripod comes out... otherwise, aperture-priority is not a bad word.
@@MikeLikesChannel I agree, aperture priority with auto ISO is brilliant on these cameras and got me away from manual mode so I could spend more time thinking about the subject. However, for still life, very low light or flash work I will still use manual.
@@DustyCR Agreed, anything with flash/strobes, gotta go manual by its nature. I mostly take pics of my 3 and 5 year old, I need as many automated servants as possible, particularly when it comes to Sony's brilliant autofocus ;)
I often just set my vari ap lens at 5.6 or 6.3 depending on max ap fully zoomed or just stick to f 8. May need to plug in auto iso with minimum shutter speed. I guess that may be too advanced for whom you think is buying this lens. Lose separation. It may be bought by more advanced shooters for travel. I used a Tamron 28-300 when I took trips for situations where changing lenses may not be advisable. On boats, near volcanoes, etc. I don't use it anymore due to its lack of sharpness especially over 100mm.
@Jared Polin as always, loved your review! I was thinking of purchasing this lens, but after viewing your review I have doubts for 2 main reasons: (1) it failed the wind tunnel test (but I guess I can live with this one); (2) your categorizing it as an amature lens that fits for people shooting on auto mode. This raises a concern as to IQ of this lens although you didn't mention it explicitly. Can you tell what features / shortcomings made you categorize this lens as hobbyists lens? Would you consider it as a good choice for landscape photography where wide aperture is not really required? Thanks
If their target market was tourists and soccer dads, they should've just made a Sony E-mount for their popular 18-400 lens. That lens was pretty good too and, with that wider range, would've probably been even more popular. Even owners of full frame cameras would still be able to use this lens, albeit limited to APS-C mode.
It's not for pros if they're going to be using it for work, but when they're just doing the family/kids, vacations, etc, they'll use it. Who wants to drag all their equipment around with them when they're not actually working and are just out enjoying the day. Just have a 50mm f/1.8 and this lens in your bag for holidays and other fun times and you'd be laughing.
I had the apsc-dslr 18-200 which was fabulous for a tour of Europe with my family. I think this would be awesome, it is massively cheaper than the Sony travel lens
I realise it is a different lens, but I had a Tamron 18-270 which on a Canon 60D had focus issue where it would focus about 1-2ft in front of whatever the AF locked on at about 20ft distance. Despite engaging with Tamron, I never got the issue resolved and it has made me nervous buying third party lenses ever since.
Disagree. I care about and know about bokeh, I'm not shooting auto, I'm shooting manual tbh (auto iso). I'm a guy who knows and loves photography but wants a lens to capture family life without having to swap prime A for prime B and make the family wait, so... no, I care about the quality I can get from this lens or more so, care what the level of compromise is going to be on such a lens Don't want to know what your whole Disney skit was about :/
Stupid comments like "an aspiring pro wouldn't buy this lens"...cuz pros apparently never wanna take a casual hike or a trip to the beach and not have to change lenses. Such ignorance.
Have a f2.8 300mm Minolta lens (used with LAEA-4 adapter). Bought it for shooting in very low light (wildlife shoots). Is there any major benefit (quality -wise) to purchasing this lens? -Your help will be greatly appreciated.
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Tamron lenses are the reason why I’m finally switching to full frame Sony. And by the way, I’ll buy this lens and I’m not going to use my camera on auto mode. You got that wrong.
How is it wrong if it gets beautiful shots. Which they look to be beautiful.
@@jamesjackson4264 I think he said this because this lens is fit for any mode, not just for families photographing their kids.
Watching this again, because you’re so entertaining!
I never shoot auto. I own the a7iii and both the 28-200 and 70-180 for 2 different situations:.
1.Travel, and all around :28-200.
2.For indoor sports the 70-180.
Recently, I used the 28-200 indoors for an evening get together with the Godox TT350 and it worked fine.
Thanks so much for your videos !
Even pros go on holiday occasionally! I think it would be a great travel lens. Instead of taking a 28-70, 70-200, you can just take this lens and not worry about having to swap lenses while you're walking around. Optical performance looks pretty fantastic, and it's light. Great lens for general use. Re manual vs auto: I think you have to use the camera modes appropriately. Same way eye-AF does a great job focussing on faces, if that's what you need, it's fine in some circumstances to let the camera do some of the work of computing correct exposure, with aperture or shutter priority. Manual is for when the camera won't do what you want (eg I always shoot live shows in theatres in manual cos I can't get the camera to expose reliably).
a bit of a condescending tone. Just because someone doesn't wanna spend thousands of dollars on a lens doesn't mean all they do is auto-settings.
Yep, I needed a lens for wide to telephoto, I had around 800 to spend. I either could get a 28-70 kit and the 70-300, but still over budget, or this lens, which has a faster aperture than the first 2 and has that entire zoom range in a compact and light package, so I had to get this 😅
😂 I'm a "pro" and I want it.... I bought it! It is my only one zoom lens... it has a spot in my kit, just for casual and lazy shoot or for family trips 😄 it is good, good enough for outdoor reportage and paired with Sony it can handle also low light. Very sharp, reliable and light, can be leaved in the working kit with many primes, may be it came useful 😜
I have found that with this lens you won’t always have the _perfect_ lens for a given situation but you’ll never truly have the _wrong_ lens.
Am i the only one who is impressed about the fact that at 70mm its at F4... i mean its faster that a 24-70 F4 (except its not 24 at the wide end) and you still have a 70-200 F4-5.6 in the same lens. Its not for sure professional but its pretty impressive in my opinion.
Agree on that. It basicaly makes buying the 24-70 f4 total irrelavant (and so the 24-105 f4), and buying the 70-200 f4 mostly irrelavant, since what you are losing is 1/3 to 1 stop, depending on the focal lenght.
Not to mention the fact that it's all in one lens.
No one will call the 24-70f4 or the 70-200f4 for noobs like jared did with the 28-200, even though its faster than 24-70f4. And a little slower than a 70-200f4.
This is very true but the 24mm vs 28mm on the wide end is basically a deal breaker for an all in one lens for at least myself. The 4mm difference is very noticeable.
Just match this 28-200 with Tamron 1728F2.8
@@renefras2874 Well, if you'll look other reviews, you'll see how quickly this lens loses sharpness from center to the edge, on any focal length.
After looking for a few in-depth reviews with picture analysis, I also see this lens as an "amateur only", because the overall image quality is just not good enough for professional shooting.
@@orlangurs yes, I guess that's often the case for these all-in-one lenses, still that new 24-200 Nikon Z-lens seems to have a pretty impressive image quality, but it is slower than this lens.
This is DEFINITELY being overlooked for professionals. I just bought one of these today, and I'm certainly no amateur who will be only shooting auto. From everything I could find from fellow professionals, everyone seemed to love this lens for the price.
When in Manual mode I normally keep ISO auto. Set the required Apperture and control ISO by rolling the shutter speed up and down! Some how this has always worked for me
After watching for three years I finally understand the wind tunnel test.
Explain to me because I don’t understand it lol
It's a test to simulate a wind tunnel. Hence it's called a wind tunnel test. You're welcome. :)
Ha Jared, I think you underestimated the appetite for a lens such as this. While I don't consider myself a lowly, auto loving, "beginner" and do have a selection of good glass that I appreciate, I did go out and purchase this lens, much to my own surprise, primarily to use with my new A7c as a lightweight travel lens. I can't wait to try it out and plan on taking it along with the Tamron 17-28 and one small, fast prime. I , too, like to control the camera but I also don't want to curse my equipment and find the best lens/ camera for the job is the one that you are willing to carry with you! I think you came to reviewing this lens with a preconceived notion of its use case.
I def would say this lense is a good addition for anyone pro or not. Seems perfect for going out with the fam or some frineds and not worry about swapping lenses. It really looks like a pretty practical lense for a vacation or night out.
I finally bought this lens yesterday and it compares great to the Tamron 28-75, slightly softer towards 75 in comparison but not by much. From 28mm to 60mm very sharp, 120 to 200mm again gets very sharp. Very usable lens at all focal lengths all in all
I am thinking of selling 28-75 and buying 28-200. I would like one universal glass. Which lens would you choose in my position?
@@Filmy34 did you end up selling 28-75 and getting 28-200?
@@Filmy34 I am thinking of doing the same tomorrow. Did you end up selling the 28-75?
I actually feel like this is being overlooked for professional use if you already have several fast primes. I’m considering replacing my 24-70 2.8 for this because of the sheer volume of keepers I could quickly get with decent light, and then switch to primes for specific uses and low light on the mid to long end. Has anyone else made a similar move and tried this out during paid gigs at weddings/events?
In fact, You're right. No all photographers need a constant f 2.8. In landscape photography, you avoid such apertures, using f8 or higher in order to get everything in focus.
Tamron: The blue collar of camera lenses. They just work.
This seems like a great lens for events! Throw the ISO on auto to compensate for the variable aperture and BOOM!
exactly what i’m thinking. i might actually get rid of my 24-70 2.8 for this as i also have a 135 1.8 for when it gets dark/portraits. it’s as fast on the wide end and personally i won’t miss the 4mm lost, especially when there’s 130mm gained! it’s a new era for zoom lenses.
That's exactly what I do. Why Jared insists on manually controlling his ISO under ideal sun/cloud conditions as if it's 2003 and he'll outguess the camera is bizarre to me. Long exposures at night on a tripod, studio work with strobes/flashes, go as manual as you like. Otherwise, rock that Aperture-priority and focus on the subject 👍
@@MikeLikesChannel Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is an important thing to take into consideration. At least in my A7rii, a bigger ISO won't just give you more noise, but it will reduce the dynamic range. That is the main reason I keep it at a lower ISO and rarely use auto iso, since I want to take control of how much dynamic range I can get on what I'm shooting.
@@motttta I think the Mark 3+ models have a lot more DR regardless of ISO... my point of reference being the OG A7 from 2013 vs. my A7C, which is essentially an A7iii. I routinely shoot astro/nightscapes at ISO100-3200 depending on conditions and the DR is similar between them... in a Sony RAW, there's sooooo much DR to begin with.
I bought this lens foe photographing sculptural art at different angles, I really like it for that. From 28mm extremely close to the subject stepping back to 200mm with a distant backdrop, the sharpness and weight and versatility makes this a great choice when you want to photograph objects in a variety of tones. The bokeh is fine from my N perspective, low light isn’t the best but that’s the one noticeable off in my use estimation for something so well priced and lightweight that does a commendable job.
Not bad as a casual "catch all" lens, especially for the price. I think this is perfect for family gatherings, or travel where you want to keep your kit as minimal as possible.
This seems like it could be a pretty decent lens for a professional in my opinion. I film weddings (with up to 3 cameras) and have a bunch of primes but i'm interested in a light weight zoom to keep on hand. It has great weather sealing which the sigma 28-75 lacks. Its also a lot lighter than the sigma 24 - 70 and has the extra reach in case its needed for a long ceremony shot etc, It also has a pretty decent macro capability. Sure its not gonna have the bokeh and sharpness as having a pair of zooms but some pros will appreciate the light weight setup especially if they have some nice fast glass as well, and as a bonus makes a great travel and fun day out lens.
2:47 Jared Rant literally describing me buying this lens and Sony a7RV the night before an airshow because I didn't want to buy 2 diff lenses. Was just trying to figure out focus tracking honing in exposure with shutter speed at different apertures as I zoom in and out as planes are close 1 second and gone the next. Hovered around 200mm F5.6 and 1/2500 shutter speed most of the time, but because of the speed, couldn't change my shutter speed or incur blur, and wasn't fast enough to change ISO to compensate the change in stops on the zoom. Stayed at like ISO100 in the sun. Thank god for shooting raw and fixing exposures in LR. First time picking up a camera in 20 years, and first time using LR. What a weekend of learning. Jared's videos kicked started me and got some great photos. I think the Sony A7R V did heavy lifting with the focus tracking and airplane AI. For the money, if you are a noob like me, just buy it.
What nobody mention. If you get into the Sony full frame system or any other system, you struggle first time when you want more reach than 100mm. For 200mm, you have to buy a big and heavy 70-200, 70-300 or 100-400. This is the lightest "70-200" you can buy. And it is on par with image quality from the 70-200 G from Sony. For sure, the Sony is F4 but thats not the big deal for me.
After buying this for 70-200 I stopped using my 28-75mm F2.8 Tamron. Having 3.2 at 50mm and 4.5 at 120 doesnt change the world for me. Sharpness at 28mm wide open is better on the 28-75 and on 2.8 it gathers at least 1/3 stop more light, but the results look very identical and you wont miss sharpness and its more for pixel peeping.
Im suprised with the results of this lens. There wasnt any picture where I missed my old 28-75 or regret not taking my 70-180 2.8 at home (of course you get more magic blur with this).
Maybe I will take this lens one day as a B lens to a wedding.
This lens is really interesting if you are in the market for such a lens. It is impressive for such a light and cheap lens, that it manages to be F2.8 at the wide end (which are probably on if you are indoors) and stays at around F4 until 100mm. This gives this type of lens even more flexibility than it already has because of it's focal range and would make for an incredible do it all lens that even beats the classic 24-105 F4 in some situations.
I think even for a pro this could be a small run around kit so you aren’t bringing 2-3 lenses with you. It’s workable not top tier but useable
Yea, or someone who knows what they're doing but has limited money to spend on multiple lenses (along w/ not wanted to carry 5 on them). He was annoying closed minded ab this one smh
@@MrSwaggernaut83 Can I use this for making landscape prints for sale?
@@e.g.1218 At 28mm I don't see why not! Optically it's not ideal, but as long as the resolution of your camera is adequate and the photos are well composed, no reason you couldn't.
@@MrSwaggernaut83 Ok, thanks! I have a Sony 7rii. Hmm, maybe I'll look for an alternate lens though. Any suggestions for something that isn't crazy expensive?
@@e.g.1218 Hmm, I'm not super versed in landscape photography, but I think generally you're looking for wider lenses. Maybe you could try going the route of adapting lenses? You'll probably be shooting at higher apertures (so wider depth of field) and shooting nonmoving subjects so the manual focus shouldn't be an issue! You can find wide angles for plenty of different mounts, and then just buy an adapter to e-mount!
Cap. This lens is absolutely for professionals who don’t want to muck around with primes
After watching your reviews, I bought this lens and I liked it. For low-light or sport events, it may not be the best lens, but someone like me, a parent who goes to kid's sport or musical event and take photos for memories, this is great. If I shoot photos more seriously, I will buy Nikon lens (I have Nikon camera) for its better focus & shutter speed.
I just ordered this lens to take with me to Universal Studios. I also do a lot of photography at my kids school, and I think it will be ideal for that. Not having to change lenses in certain situations is a big plus in my opinion.
IMO, manual + manual iso doesn’t really buy you anything over manual + auto iso, especially in a mirrorless camera. You can see the exposure real-time, and you can always roll the exposure-comp wheel up or down for that extra boost. (In the scenario of using a variable-ap zoom lens and/or shooting a dynamic subject.)
I really enjoy manual + auto iso as well!
In my real world situations where I do not want the ISO being ramped up or too slow for the situation I am in, I will always set it. I understand there's limits you can put in but just like the reason I wont use priority modes any more, I wont use auto ISO. They both get thrown off by false meter readings.
@@froknowsphoto they wont get thrown off if you set custom bind to exposure lock and compensate with exposure dial from that. I really enjoy using this 'tactic'
Ziggi Mon yep, it might affect dynamic range but if you have an ISO invariant camera it doesn’t matter too much.
Thumbs up for showing us the aperture range relative to zoom
This thing replaced my 28-75 *and* my 70-300. Of the photos I took in 2019 and 2020, only 6% were over 200mm. To me, that plainly said "buy a 28-200, and rent a Sony 200-600 when I specifically need the reach."
I do have my beloved prime trinity, but to Jared's point, *man is this a convenient lens at the city zoo or Disney!!*
What is the trinity you're referring to? New to the Sony system and it seems there are several "camps" among brands for prime lenses.
I did not know when you raise millimetres the f stop changes and goes up… 😮
I bought this 28-200 and Tamron 17-28 f2.8. These two plus one Sony 35mm f1.4 GM and A7C are my favorite carry on kit for travel. The only thing it lacks is OSS that I wish for at 200mm end. But I also have a Sony 24-240 OSS, but the heavy weight and bulkiness deterred me from using it often, not to mention the inferior image quality. I recommend this lens to go with A7iii or A7C. I tried this lens on my A7R4 and this high resolution displays some unwanted distortion and color fringing that I don’t notice on A7C. I usually travel with Hasselblad 907X and Sony A7C, Hasselblad for landscape & portrait and A7C for everything else; and I prefer this is a lens over Sony zoom.
what make a photo beautiful does not depend only on Image quality lense. We may lose momentum if we must change lenses ................ Thanks Jared
I didn't think I'd end up buying a Tamron, I bought the 17-28 F2.8 and now I'm considering this one. Its pretty nice for what you're paying for, Tamron is under rated in my opinion.
Tamron is great!
Hi, I like your reviews. Clear, trustfull en to the point. I keep struggling with a choice between the Tamrom 28-200 and the Sony 24-105. I like to shoot nature, animals in nature, portraits and all kind of events. I shoot almost always in good light conditions. If you, as a photographer with such a profile, have to choose between those lenses, witch one should you choose? And if picture quality is important? The price isn’t a big deal here in Belgium, with the current cashback on the Sony lenses the difference is more or less 200 dollar. Geert
Getting it for my A7R V. Does it work with 2x converter?
Gee, I supposed when I am out hiking and want to go with minimal equipment and I decide to take this lens, does that mean I forget how to shoot in manual and only can shoot in auto? According to your view that must be the case
Right I bought it for hiking too, well I would like to try and sell the images I take on my hikes. I always shoot manual while out hiking.
Thanks for this practical review. Will have mine in a few days.
a different take. I'm an architecture and real estate photographer. My bread and butter lens is my 12-24mm. I also shoot wildlife and landscapes more for fun than money but I do shoot them. I have a 200-600mm as well. Currently I have the 28-75mm to fill the gap and have been considering the 70-180mm as well. But for what I'm shooting with this lens, it's stopped down and on a tripod (landscapes and arch work when I need longer than 24mm). So all I care about is the sunstars in can produce when needed for an arch shot with light sources in it. I had the sony 24-240mm but it's sunstars are junk. I've got this on order to see how it'll work. If it's no good I'll go with the 70-180 instead but that's adding $1000 to my kit and another lens to carry when for my use the variable aperture doesn't matter as long as it's IQ stopped down (and sunstars) look good.
Did you end up keeping it? I'm looking at this vs the 75-180 but I'd just be using it for landscape at the end of the day.
Is it really a fro or just puffy hair?
Thanks for this vid showing up just days before I fully resigned to get the 24-240 behemoth.
I got the Tamron, happy days are here again, along with extra cash not spent.
I would just choose the shutter speed, and and set the max ISO, or the other way around.
Okay so I was partly right as to what the new lens would be. Back when Dave McKeegan put out a speculation video, I said that it would likely be something along the lines of the 18-400mm APS-C lens they already have for DSLRs. As such, I expected this to be an APS-C lens, not a full-frame. Which if they'd made it specifically for APS-C, it probably would've allowed them to cut a lot off the price tag, which would better target those who would be most likely to buy this lens: those with the APS-C bodies.
Your reviews are as fun as they are informative, thank you. I love to see image quality comparison with the Sony 24-105mm.
+1
I have this lens paired with an A7riiiA and it's fantastic!
It is a great walkaround even for a "Pro" when you are walking in the busy street of some Southern American cities or Eastern Europe when you don't want to come across an expensive tourist while taking pictures of artichectures.
Pretty impressive in both performance and price. I can see myself using this lense for those lazy photography days.
Hi...Is this lens useful for video without image vibration reduction built into the lens? Did not find comments in the discussions. Thanks!
When's Tamron going to give us a 150 600 for Sony E
2021 would be a fitting time for it. I'd like a 200-500 under $1000 too!
I know there is copyright issues and what not but man now I really want to see an opening spoof scene about this lens over the opening LOTR music. "In the beginning Tamron produces 6 lenses. Unknown to the photographers there was a 7th lens. One lens to rule them all...."
Nice for traveling! Tamron do a Good Job at the Moment!
Really interested in this for my backpacking trips, all my primes and sigma art lenses are HEAVY
Thank you for your informative video, great work on that! I am already thinking of adding this lens to my gear for my photo tours with extensive alpine hiking… I am wondering if you are on Dayflash to present your photos as good as possible with full frame high-res quality?
Hello Jared...Thank you for the great review... IYour feedback is appreciated.
Pretty nice travel Option. 1 luminous lens x most situations and quite sharp too. I’m tempted. Also the Price...
I was like "Why would a 2nd/3rd party 28-200 be better than 1st party 24-240"
Then i listened to the video F2.8 at 28MM, and 5.6 at 200, my 24-240 at i think 100mm is at 6.3
To be honest, i'm looking for an 18-400 for sony APSC like their 18-400 for Canon that does not work very well when adapted to sony
If i had something like that i wouldnt have missed so many shots because my 70-350 couldnt go wide enough when driving around(as a passenger) duing a recent record breaking rain storm
For full frame i'd like something like a 35-350 at maybe F8 to keep it small enough for full frame.
Dont get me wrong, i have a 150-600, and am going to get the 200-600, but many times i do NOT have the time to swap lenses. For that rainstorm situation i had several pictures i missed because i was too close for 70mm, and definately couldnt have punched in enough to get other shots with my 35mm. I endeed up pulling out both my A6400 and my A7iii
I simple person, when new video is up from Jared, I like it immediately
so which would you suggest for "semi-pro" that would be "equivalent" to this lens?
Superzooms are often just not into the realm of "pro", as the more multiplications of zoom bring more restrictions, usually optically. 28-200 is 7.14x zoom, the more professional variants of this lens are the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 and 70-180 F2.8. Those are 2.68x and 2.57x zoom, and at a constant F2.8 aperture. Though it comes at price, money spent and having to swap lenses.
Please review the Tamron 18-400
you fkd it at the end man...we dont have money that doesnt mean we are not pro shooters. we use lenses that are affordable. a photographer is not determined pro or not pro by looking at the lenses that he uses but the work that he has done. its easy for you to sit there and talk and make money. for others, its all hardwork.
I'm not a professional, but I do shoot a few thousand shots a month of various subjects. This is one of my go-to lenses. It's sharp enough, fast enough, and light. And the zoom range covers pretty much everything except for wildlife or full field sports. I carry this and usually one or two other specialty lenses depending on where I'm going; however, this is always in my bag.
The way to shoot this lens is with aperture mode, set a minimum shutter speed and auto ISO.
Could just use AutoISO and set the ISO limits to negate your strange settings at 28mm if you are committed to only using manual mode.
Fro's got this bizarre notion that you need manual mode in full daylight. You can rely on the computer to handle parts of the exposure triangle (especially ISO) under typical sun and clouds. Manual is great when the light goes down or the tripod comes out... otherwise, aperture-priority is not a bad word.
@@MikeLikesChannel I agree, aperture priority with auto ISO is brilliant on these cameras and got me away from manual mode so I could spend more time thinking about the subject. However, for still life, very low light or flash work I will still use manual.
@@DustyCR Agreed, anything with flash/strobes, gotta go manual by its nature. I mostly take pics of my 3 and 5 year old, I need as many automated servants as possible, particularly when it comes to Sony's brilliant autofocus ;)
I often just set my vari ap lens at 5.6 or 6.3 depending on max ap fully zoomed or just stick to f 8. May need to plug in auto iso with minimum shutter speed. I guess that may be too advanced for whom you think is buying this lens. Lose separation. It may be bought by more advanced shooters for travel. I used a Tamron 28-300 when I took trips for situations where changing lenses may not be advisable. On boats, near volcanoes, etc. I don't use it anymore due to its lack of sharpness especially over 100mm.
Thank you for your review. I just bought it today (07/11/2022)!
Landscape lens for sure!
@Jared Polin as always, loved your review! I was thinking of purchasing this lens, but after viewing your review I have doubts for 2 main reasons: (1) it failed the wind tunnel test (but I guess I can live with this one); (2) your categorizing it as an amature lens that fits for people shooting on auto mode. This raises a concern as to IQ of this lens although you didn't mention it explicitly. Can you tell what features / shortcomings made you categorize this lens as hobbyists lens? Would you consider it as a good choice for landscape photography where wide aperture is not really required? Thanks
I wonder if this lens is good enough for events/congresses. I was considering the 28-75+70-180 but maybe a 28-200 + a few primes will do the trick!
til they invent smell-o-vision, i’ll rely on you sniff tests
Hi Jared, you mention the a7IV and I was curious if you think it will come out this year? Great video!!!
Interesting, David oastler said this might be sharper than the 70-200 f4 and that he won't mind using this for professional shoots.
Well the 70-200 f4 isn't what I'd call super sharp to begin with..
@@bennnnft yes, but the wide open center sharpness isn't far from the f2.8 trinities and 24-105 f4. At the corner, it falls of.
Who uses slower glass than f/2.8 for professional purposes?
Great lens for many things actually, and very affordable. Obviously it's not for high-end use but it does have many uses.
Hi Jared from Australia, how does this lens compare to Sony 24 - 240? on a A7III
could you please make review or test of this lens on Sony A6000 series?
If their target market was tourists and soccer dads, they should've just made a Sony E-mount for their popular 18-400 lens. That lens was pretty good too and, with that wider range, would've probably been even more popular. Even owners of full frame cameras would still be able to use this lens, albeit limited to APS-C mode.
This lens looks nice! Does it have the vignetting issue that the 28-75 had ??
Jared just casually confirmed the A7 IV is coming 🤔
Where in the Video?
It is coming, yes. But the year is still unconfirmed ;)
It is coming. There will be an A7 V as well. Nobody, except Sony, knows when.
lol, there was an a7, a72, a73...one can only assume an a74 is coming at some point.
@@froknowsphoto How about the A7S3 or A7S4
It's not for pros if they're going to be using it for work, but when they're just doing the family/kids, vacations, etc, they'll use it. Who wants to drag all their equipment around with them when they're not actually working and are just out enjoying the day. Just have a 50mm f/1.8 and this lens in your bag for holidays and other fun times and you'd be laughing.
I had the apsc-dslr 18-200 which was fabulous for a tour of Europe with my family. I think this would be awesome, it is massively cheaper than the Sony travel lens
I realise it is a different lens, but I had a Tamron 18-270 which on a Canon 60D had focus issue where it would focus about 1-2ft in front of whatever the AF locked on at about 20ft distance. Despite engaging with Tamron, I never got the issue resolved and it has made me nervous buying third party lenses ever since.
i think this would be great for travelling if you had to take one lens
It most certainly is. It's my do-everything lens. Disney World, zoos, dog park, hiking... you name it, it has been there.
how will compare this lens with the nikon 28-300mm f3.5-5.6 ?
Could you also have a review for Canon RF 24-240mm wider travel lens for EOS users? looking forward to it...
Are there any disadvantages of having a very high shutter speed if you have enough light for it?
No. You generally want the highest shutter speed you can get, unless you're trying to do something creative with motion blur.
I’d take this as a lens to get into Sony pro glass for Sony is up there
Thanks for the great videos bro! Keep it up!
Lol love the review and pretty good humor throughout your video Jared 👍.
I love your videos😍
Disagree. I care about and know about bokeh, I'm not shooting auto, I'm shooting manual tbh (auto iso). I'm a guy who knows and loves photography but wants a lens to capture family life without having to swap prime A for prime B and make the family wait, so... no, I care about the quality I can get from this lens or more so, care what the level of compromise is going to be on such a lens
Don't want to know what your whole Disney skit was about :/
You could see the exposure meter dropping as you zoomed, hence having to get the stops from another part of the triangle
It’s bullshit to say that people buying this lens are shooting on full auto. I can see this as a great travel lens and I never shoot on full auto.
Is it better than then 24-240 though in image quality?
Guys, Help me decide, before watching this video I wanted to buy Sony 24-105 f4 OSS but now I am confused which one to buy.
can we get a review of the 35-150 f2.8-f4 from tamron?
this lens is for travel if you have 4-5 lenses and dont want to take them all you buy this and you take wide&1 prime lens and thats it
Thank you
Stupid comments like "an aspiring pro wouldn't buy this lens"...cuz pros apparently never wanna take a casual hike or a trip to the beach and not have to change lenses. Such ignorance.
hey when are you going to make a real world review ?
maybe for the nikon d6 ?
or the canon eos r5
really excited for the r5
Love ya videos! Big up Bronx!
Have a f2.8 300mm Minolta lens (used with LAEA-4 adapter). Bought it for shooting in very low light (wildlife shoots). Is there any major benefit (quality -wise) to purchasing this lens? -Your help will be greatly appreciated.
can you make comparison to Nikon Z 24 - 200 ??