@@elconejoperez1 Ness is automatically better than other mid tiers. Crazy combo game, projectiles, zoning, plus great results from Gackt and Scend. High tier. Kazuya isn't high tier either, even though some of his players say he is overrated and just high tier. Solid top tier.
@@elconejoperez1 Never said he was top tier. But he ain't mid or low either. Given the weaknesses and secondary results, Id say he's around where characters like Mario, wario, Lucina, Yoshi, etc... upper high tier at best. Kazuya also has several weaknesses (poor mobility, bottom 5 slowest characters, super heavy, poor frame data, subpar neutral, exploitable recovery etc...) but people still call him top tier because of his results and his crazy strengths.
@@Gekko.. scend had more interactions, more movement, better skill across the board. You can get outplayed and still win, happens to riddles all the time. Riddles isn't that skillful compared to other top players, he just plays a character that only requires a few hits to win.
@@gravelrider450 Saying he got outplayed is an inaccurate statement. Kazuya is a heavy character. Heavys usually get dominated in neutral especially by combo heavy characters like Ness. Scend got outplayed. Riddles was able to play patient enough to pick the correct interactions to engage in and beat Scend. It’s the same concept with any heavy character. You get dominated in neutral for the most part but you find those couple interactions, get some combos in, and secure the stock.
@@Gekko..People consider Ness annoying, but what if Ness was a dlc? It’s actually easier to get out of PK fire than you think. So I don’t personally think Ness is that annoying. Kazuya on the other hand is DLC so he’s pay to win
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U know a character is busted when I’m rooting for Ness to win the matchup
Your classic busted high tier vs. mid tier battle.
First person in earth to call ness mid tier
@@ragames7320 well, he is not a high tier right?
@@elconejoperez1 Ness is automatically better than other mid tiers. Crazy combo game, projectiles, zoning, plus great results from Gackt and Scend. High tier. Kazuya isn't high tier either, even though some of his players say he is overrated and just high tier. Solid top tier.
@@ragames7320 I agree to an extend but ness has so many bad match ups and his recovery is ass, no way he is a top tier character.
@@elconejoperez1 Never said he was top tier. But he ain't mid or low either. Given the weaknesses and secondary results, Id say he's around where characters like Mario, wario, Lucina, Yoshi, etc... upper high tier at best. Kazuya also has several weaknesses (poor mobility, bottom 5 slowest characters, super heavy, poor frame data, subpar neutral, exploitable recovery etc...) but people still call him top tier because of his results and his crazy strengths.
I love scend ❤
Lol riddles was so out played the entire game. GG scend...
So then why did scend lose?🙃
@@Gekko.. scend had more interactions, more movement, better skill across the board. You can get outplayed and still win, happens to riddles all the time. Riddles isn't that skillful compared to other top players, he just plays a character that only requires a few hits to win.
@@gravelrider450 Saying he got outplayed is an inaccurate statement. Kazuya is a heavy character. Heavys usually get dominated in neutral especially by combo heavy characters like Ness. Scend got outplayed. Riddles was able to play patient enough to pick the correct interactions to engage in and beat Scend. It’s the same concept with any heavy character. You get dominated in neutral for the most part but you find those couple interactions, get some combos in, and secure the stock.
@@Gekko.. cool, I disagree.
@@Gekko..People consider Ness annoying, but what if Ness was a dlc? It’s actually easier to get out of PK fire than you think. So I don’t personally think Ness is that annoying. Kazuya on the other hand is DLC so he’s pay to win