Putin prepares to annex land - amid Nordstream sabotage blame
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2022
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Blowing up the whole thing instead of simply turning the gas off. Yeah right
They can't even store the gas they can't sell, they've been burning it for two months now. You can see the flames from Finland. Russia does not care about the pipeline, and if useful idiots in the West believe this was an attack against Russia, then all the better for Russia.
*Putin just saved his on life! If Putin is killed now Russia can not go back to business as usual by turning a value. He is VERY sleigh.*
This shows how stupid these elites think the plebs are.
@@anthonygeorge9932 unfortunately, they're partially right.
Show off !!
We all know who did it. It's not Russia.
It was the KGB (FSB).
funny when covid happend, the news were careful not to jump to conclusions that it may have come from China,
It's clearly the US
@@drewwesely8853 Provide conclusive evidence - or better still STFU
I read from the internet that "NATO regularly deploys maritime forces in the Baltic Sea in order to maintain a credible and capable defensive capability in accordance with treaty obligations...."
😅But then a Russian Navy ship can get inside NATO territory and so close to denmark and germany, and bombed that pipe and escaped completely.....
It's offensive how our media underestimate our cognitive capacities
ite not for you. its for the 5% of id iots who bieve r ussia did it.
Its worked for decades, its only natural to assume it would work again this time. And looking at the comments online, clearly it is indeed being believed by some!
@@aonyx5270 It's really depressing
They not media anymore, they are propaganda of the regime.
Here here..
What about the statement of Mr. Biden's statement " If ever Russian tanks land in Ukrane, there will be no Nordstream pipeline" in Feb 2022.
Nordstream 2.
ruclips.net/video/NwHH1RJxx1g/видео.html
US deep state dont want europe to be russia friendly there deiffnatly more to this
Nordstream 2 not 1!
Is that what your editor told you to say boris?
Kissinger once said, "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"? All the best from Germany!
It's taken a long time for Germany, Britain, Canada, Australia, Japan, So Korea, 26 European countries, and so on to die.
BULLSHITO... If a new pipeline is completed and those countries have wanted to boycott Russia anyway especially with their threats of shutting it off continuously. But now they have the choice? So America puts their fingerprints on an unnecessary sabotage? Think about it,, Putin knows they're not going to be using it and he's been shutting it down for "repairs" continuously, who better would need the sympathy propaganda and save face with EU countries by accusations America's the terrorist? You're thinking it too much."Occam's Razor, put simply, states: “the simplest solution is almost always the best.”
USA ships were seen just 30km away from the location of the damaged pipes. I am just wondering why channel 4 isn't reporting this at all?
if you really think America or some western country Do it tho just wow The Russian commando frogmen are a Russian Naval Spetsnaz unit under operational subordination to the Main Intelligence Directorate. It is the special forces unit of the Russian Naval Infantry and is composed of highly trained and elite marines within the Naval Infantry do some research they got the equipment to do it probably come from Kaliningrad if they got submarines there Think with your brain move like your pro-Russian
Because that is nonsense. It is abusy are of the sea, you can find ships of russia, uk, us and even turkey there in the last month. The point is motivation and since that pipeline is no longer used, Russia made a great propaganda victory here because it managed to overshadow the start of norway-poland pipeline that can replace much of the russian gas and provided our conspiracy nuts material to fight on facebook who did this.
Nor are they reporting Biden literally saying they would do this a few months ago.
Biden said he would do it back in February, Meanwhile the EURO pipeline is operational and untouched by the Russian saboteurs?? Did they get the wrong pipeline?
Because USA ships are routinely seen in all bodies of water around the world
They could have just turned the taps off, they didn’t need to blow up the pipeline. This definitely wasn’t Russia and we know who threatened to do this.
No news channel is discussing that possibility though.
Exactly why would Russia destroy its own biggest asset.
this is beyond stupid. 1st - it's Russians , and then you think what could be the reason.
This stinks of the us behind this and this is y this war has to continue unfortunately bc america wants war. They are trying to to cripple Russia's economy bc the sanctions are not working. politics playing and biden should know better. and Americas media is pushing the wrong narrative just like covid..god bless putin yes to deal with these ppl.
Actualy they have to pay fine for not delivering every day after claiming they need a turbine and Siemens said isn't the case all the didn't deliver have to pay. But a damage that is verified is force measure and don't have do
Tired of western media blaming Russia for the conflict and anything that goes wrong. Why don't they acknowledge that there is 2 sides to every conflict? It would be nice to hear more objective reporting.
They erased my coment
Not from channel 4 as of late.
@@joelalvarez177 Watch out they may erase you .
😂Like they have an excuse to rubble millions of civilians into the streets and tell the world to do it Russias way or die gtfooh
Tired of everyone blaming Russia for the conflict? They brutally invaded Ukraine you fucking plum. Nobody else is to blame except the Russians.
so... they were able to bomb their own pipeline but not able to bomb the new pipeline that is not theirs and when it is within the bombed area...
The sanctions are permanent now, aren’t they?
it's clearly a warning. Russia is the abusive ex that beats up their partner for leaving. If you don't come back I'll smash your new pipelines.
@@tomsixsix you really believe that ? Or you paid to say that which one 🤔 🙄
@@stevenburling6062 Just another clueless creature breathing air for the sake of it on a daily basis. The brain is unable to function anymore.
Ya, pigs are flying by Biden's WH window
"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
>>>>> Henry Kissinger
Its still sad that the Jews are leaders of America
Putin just has to turn the tap off not blow it all up 😂
With a hole in the pipeline, Putin now has total control of release of that polluting methane - simply because the tap is his end. He can destroy the fishing in that area for instance, not to mention the environmental and economic harm he can inflict on 3 or 4 countries in the area - just by turning the tap on. From there he can leverage international acceptance of the 4 countries he intends to annex.
Biden said at a news conference he would finish Nord stream for good, wheN asked how he replied with a smug smirk, "we can do it, we can do it" BIDEN DID IT.
Biden is not a motor mouth! Thank you very much.
He was commenting about Nord Stream 2, that was never opened. He was saying that the US would pressure Europe to not open it. Nord Stream 1 was shut down by Russia in early September, they claimed it was due to an oil leak and before then it shut off for a week over a broken turbine. These were just excuses.
hes a man of his word :)
bs
Sure, Biden is stupid enough to hint that 🙄 🤦♀️
"We knew they lied. They knew that we knew that they lied. We knew that they knew that we knew that they lied, but they lied anyway." - Alexandre Solzhenitsyn
He was talking about something else in another time frame but things don't change much in human behavior.
No, they just understand that most people are dumb.
Well they can always turn off the tap on their end. Need to be someone who can’t use the tap.
@@Alex-pj8nz That's specious reasoning. It's filling a news vacuum with conjecture. I still think that it's most likely the Russians trying to cause chaos but at least I admit that I don't know that for sure. We may find out in time but we may not ever find out for sure. Drawing any firm conclusions is problematic at this point.
All Governments lie, they do it every day of the week. That’s why no one trusted them anymore.
Are you capable of explaining to us exactly what advantage Russia had in blowing up the only leverage they had over Germany to accept peace negotiations?
America warned Russia that they would do this if the war continued. Poland even congratulated America! Moreover Russia could have turned off the tap without the bother of doing this at any point.
This embolden Putin, we have just taken another step towards nuclear war.
I think the mere existence of the 'turn the tap back on again' option was a threat for Putin personally.
Obviously if Putin were not around gas could flow again and so woukd lots of money.
Now that tempting option has gone.... rather like the long list of Russian oil and gas executives and other businessmen in 2022. It's such a strange phenomenon that there is a Wikipedia page dedicated to keeping that growing list up to date!
@@damianeadie510 Energy supplies are being weaponized in this war and Russia wants deniability that they are the aggressors. European country refuses to pay for gas in Rubbles? Well that 's no different than an unpaid bill. A few fans in the Nordstream 1 break down? Well, obviously we have to shut the whole thing down indefinately because those pesky sanctions are hampering the repair effort. Oh, and now that there's been an explosion, well I guess we'll have no way of fullfilling our contracts to Europe. Hope you guys weren't planning on stockpiling that gas to get through winter.
The tap to NS1 was already turned off since the beginning auf September. NS2 was never activated and has no permit from the Germans to be activated.
you're not thinking clearly.... by doing this russia is trying to demo that they can hit other lines.... there are other lines crossing this one that have nothing to do with russia... yet russia is signalling it can hit.... however, that would demand a nato response.
the mere threat that lines COULD be disrupted pushes gas up... which pushes the prices of gas up... for europe. Hence why Putin hits the gas line... US will not be doing this, because it will make life harder for its allies.. which of course, it doesnt want... because that will likely make support in europe harder. Although I have to say the likelihood of success in this strategy is very low.... since most eu states see putins war as a much bigger threat than gas disruption... at this point. Putin went many bridges too far... most European countries along with US want russia contained in ukr at all costs... and consider a win for putin a very very dangerous thing.
Moving his "peace keepers" into already occupied territory with strong russian support in those regions was about as far as putin could have practically gone ... without demolishing his leverage over europe ... and his power and trade...
Glad to see everyone is waking up and clearly seeing what is really happening
what is really happening? go on. tell us.
a vague almost copy/paste like comment that can mean anything to anyone. you should be a politician.
Wish everyone was waking up but many even if the truth was there in black and white seem to belive the lies ,many I know all blame Russia, but it is clear to me it is far from this ,I give up talking to them now as soon as they open there mouths and blame Russia I change subject cause there is no point .to many fools.
@@guillermoelnino Funny that, I knew exactly what he was going on. The only ones who don't know what's going on are the indoctrinated sheep who are so woke that they fell into a coma.
@@vice.nor.virtue Exactly the opposite of that what tells us the common medias.
Accusing Russia of throwing away that much money is absolutely ridiculous
Only problem with that is that one was not working and the other was only running at 20%. Not surprised youve only got one like boris. Mind you once you get going with your other 5 accounts you will have a few hundred in no time. Its all about focus boris, focus, focus, focus. Get to it boris !!
@@admiralbenbow5083 A recent study found that the overwhelming majority of bot activity about the war was pro-Ukrainian.
Who controls social media? The West. Who has a great mass of programmers and IT infrastructure? The West.
Obviously, it's the West that produces the vast majority of bot-script propaganda. Maybe you are one.
Serious ..
ruclips.net/video/OS4O8rGRLf8/видео.html
in proportion to what the war costs, the cost of the pipelines is peanuts. There is just more to it, see the bigger picture!
Nope! Russia spent billions constructing it, controlled the gas flow through it and could use it as leverage. They don't benefit from its destruction. Other countries do though. Just a coincidence that it happened as the new pipeline was opened between Norway and Poland!
We all know what poland can do to stop germans trade with russia
I think Putin personally benefits from it. It removes a temptation for anyone to imagine they can oust him and get back to business as usual. He has threats at home that are more likely to end his presidency (and life) than anything his fantasy version of NATO will do.
It could be Russia because putin knew after the sham referendums and annexation, He would get sanctioned and that the west will stop buying petroleum and gaz from him, I am just speculating because putin is a narcissistic psychopath. Russia already started burning that gaz that they stopped delivering to some EU countries.
Oh sure, russia would never do something this stupid, because so far russia has made only the most rational decisions. You know like getting itself
into a war it can’t possibly win and setting it’s economy back 30 years.
Good point
Didn't Biden said the US will destroy nord stream 2 ?
Joey B confessed before it happened.
@@ask_why000 yes he assured us all it would happen
With an evil smirk on his face
He said they's "stop" it. And that's what happened at 22.02.2022 morning time CET. Civilized world has other means to "stop" things besides destroying it!
No. This is internet bs and never actually happened.
usa actually told us they would stop nord stream. can't you listen??
Biden said if russian tanks enter Ukraine
How long has it been? 7 months since russian tanks enter Ukraine? Let's not forget Biden himself is a dementia-plaqued old man, most likely he didn't even remember saying that in a speech pre invasion.
Russia knows what he said, and considering the losers here would be Europe (aka US closest ally), they do it , then using their massive propaganda machine to make the world remember what Biden said 7 months ago that even he most likely didn't remember.
There's no doubt it's Russia, with all the massive lies and you still eat their 💩
The area of the destruction of the pipeline is not near Russia but well within NATO territory.
Channel 4 can't see that because they have American flags over their eyes.
@@Matt_Mosley1983 Or won't...
@Channel 4 News, If you look into the past, Biden said he wanted to disrupt that. And Rice also said something about keeping Germany in line by doing something on the pipeline.
Finish your though, hon.
Channel 4 news is corporate owned and they are going to promote the corporate propaganda that will make their owners wealthier. War = $$$$. The Elites are going to push, and lie, and sabotage, and lie, and provoke until they get their war which will make them even richer. They don't care how many middle class, working class, poor, or soldiers die because, they will be perfectly fine, living a life of luxury, flying around the world with their families in complete safety while they plan how to make more money and gain more power.
WHY DO COMMON PEOPLE ALLOW THIS BULL💩 STATE PROPAGANDA⚒️OBUMMER CIA INSTALLED A USA PUPPET IN UKRAINE 2014⚒️WHY SHOULD PEOPLE IN CRIMEA OR DOMBASS FOLLOW A USA PUPPET🤬14,000 SOULS SLAUGHTERED BY CIA NATO AZOV UKRAINE NAZI'S IN DOMBASS SINCE 2014⚒️PUTIN IS A DOVE🕊️
Channel 4 News knows. Everyone knows. They're deliberately lying about it...
Anyone, even with 🕊️ 🧠, knows who did this...they think we are all stupid...smh.
@@theincrement4898 only sheep believe that
@@dav4314 the only reason why russia would do that is to screw up europe in the winter and if you were putler of course you would ido t is simple economics son any why and if the us did this I need proof because right now I know the Russians and Nordstrom 1 and 2 under threr control Russians control as a way to get out of heavy santanicon from the west but of course the Karim is making it worse now as we type and speak about it
Who?
@@theincrement4898use common sense, basic logic...wake up, u don't need to believe everything on a screen.
Mate, you're not as smart as you think you are.
For one, a smart person wouldn't write "WE ALL NO WHO IT IS, ISN'T IT OVBOURS" and then proceeds to not take a stand on who they think it is. Why is it that all the people that use the sheeple metaphors are totally predictable in their actions?
Why would Russia damage a pipeline that it made(invested) when it could just be shut-down?Threats against Nord stream were made by none other then the U.S....so, who do you think did this? Not sure?...U.S.-European military exercises on the island of Bornholm (Sweden-organized), also the area where pipeline-leaks occurred in both 1 and 2. The arrogance and corruption of Amerikan politicians is beyond acceptable.
I read from the internet that "NATO regularly deploys maritime forces in the Baltic Sea in order to maintain a credible and capable defensive capability in accordance with treaty obligations...."
😅But then a Russian Navy ship can get inside NATO territory and so close to denmark and germany, and bombed that pipe and escaped completely.....
Usa never wanted that pipeline to ever be built now we know germany bent the knee for American energy instead
Its a very clear, long time ago, Biden told while in a press conferences, he said , he gonna stop the NS2 at any cost. So, Biden is responsible and behind of this culprit.
I did not hear any real argument on why would russia want this. isn't there a different version(s) possible?
Cutting off his nose to spite his face.
Exactly. Only speculations and emotions in this report. Realistically Russians don’t need this extra mess. USA is the only country to profit from our misery.
Not Russia, but Putin. 'Why would Putin do that?' is the question that I wish everyone would ask first. Russia has become total dictatorship now... with one man at the top who feels surrounded by enemies. He has plenty of enemies within Russia, imagined or real... We should also ask why so many oil company executives meeting strange deaths? How are they a threat to him?
This invasion of Ukraine has caused EU to stop buying gas through these pipelines and it hurts the oligarchs more then Putin who is sitting on unimaginable stolen wealth already.
Understand that some wealthy and powerful people in Russia may think 'If only Putin wasn't here, we could turn the pipelines back on and get back to business as usual'. His departure would immediately benefit them.
Well, now maybe you can see there is a clear reason why someone... not Russia, but a single person, might have a strong desire to make that option impossible.
Russia didn't do this. We did. The USA.
Biden in Feb 2022: "If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it." Q: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?" Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."
Another person who predicted in 2016 that the pipeline will be discontinued is no other than Germany's current economic minister Robert Habeck. He said back then, it will definitely not happen, because Germany will do a complete transition to alternative energy. Now, the ruling party is under immense pressure to negotiate the r-opening of the pipeline.
If only the west was as concerned about its own borders.
I absolutely agree with you!
Putin cares so much about Russia's borders, he's moving them westward.
Solid point, ironic but true .
The whole world knows who did it. Definitely not Russia.
11:35 to 13:12 ruclips.net/video/u6IIwltTM4Q/видео.html The U.S is now desperate to destroy our Russian economy and Russian fiat gold currency for the U.S's economy is collapsing. They are doing the same thing that Hitler did to Germany during the last months of WW II. He won't surrender for it is unacceptable to him so he decided to keep Germany fighting on IN ORDER TO BRING ALL OF GERMANY DOWN WITH HIM until he killed himself. The result is that Germany was divided into 2 Germanys throughout the entire Cold War. America's economy is dying and if it cannot maintain it's American empire then it wanted to bring down all of Europe with it. For America failed in it's plan to destroy Russia through bioweapons through it's biolabs in Ukraine which were exposed by Russia as bioweapons lab that America has no choice but to admit that they are all bioweapons labs. For America and all of Europe has plan to depopulate Russia and invade and destroy all remaining Russian resistance and divide and control all of Russia's vast natural resources.
11:35 to 13:12 ruclips.net/video/u6IIwltTM4Q/видео.html The U.S is now desperate to destroy our Russian economy and Russian fiat gold currency for the U.S's economy is collapsing. They are doing the same thing that Hitler did to Germany during the last months of WW II. He won't surrender for it is unacceptable to him so he decided to keep Germany fighting on IN ORDER TO BRING ALL OF GERMANY DOWN WITH HIM until he killed himself. The result is that Germany was divided into 2 Germanys throughout the entire Cold War. America's economy is dying and if it cannot maintain it's American empire then it wanted to bring down all of Europe with it. For America failed in it's plan to destroy Russia through bioweapons through it's biolabs in Ukraine which were exposed by Russia as bioweapons lab that America has no choice but to admit that they are all bioweapons labs. For America and all of Europe has plan to depopulate Russia and invade and destroy all remaining Russian resistance and divide and control all of Russia's vast natural resources.
All experts in German TV are pretty sure it was Russia. They say Russia did it to show that they could also damage Pipelines, wich are not theirs.
The whole world - at least those without blood clots rotting their brains.
Bullshit
Just happened to be 4 US naval ships close by at the time. That part of water is 70 metres deep so too shallow for a Russian sub to avoid being detected by sonar.
Show us the proof you liar
Where isnt there US Naval ships nowadays ... USA is like a kid who wants attention @Look at me world! , im here, over there, also up here, down there.... blablabla :D
I'm wondering if depth charges are sufficient. I will read up on it but I expect there will be drone subs already inspecting and we will see footage of that soon.
@@Justin1337Sane hahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
@@lucmma8184 Show us proof that Russia did it. The messed up thing about people like you is that you claim to hate the newsmedia unless it tells you a lie you like.
70 billion euro Russia spent to build the pipeline. Its very clear who stands to gain the most. Thank you USA 🇺🇸
What a nice dramatic voice has the presenter, almost touched my heart, not my brain though..
Word is there was an intact Russian passport found floating in the bubbles.
5* comment 😭
Underrated
They found Russian DNA 8n the air and the body language of the water was twerking like russia.
What a joke zionist scamers
@@mariogmajner6549 these idiots are on Russian side, letting Russia take Ukraine will make them think Europe is weak hence start an invasion on europe
😂😂😂
Why would Russia blow up their own pipelines? Haha please think for yourself
simple logic. Except for those misled by US, western media....
Blaming Russia for blowing up their own pipeline is not logical,besides all the analyst said nothing but trying to potion a blame game.
That's exactly WHY they WOULD! That and the fact it removes Gazprom from being sued if/when all of this war stuff ends. Gazprom could blame the broken pipes as a reason why they can't be held accountable for not upholding their contract obligations
Logic is nit the only form of thinking ....there's illogical and hyperlogic ...worship of the intellect ( logic ) means a denial of other creative thought processes...don't let putin sew doubt in our minds ....we may be wrong ,but it's worse to fear being wrong and immobilize oneself ...
@anon These pipes are done not repairable. They don't want or need a pipe that can be repaired, that could start up the law suits again.
@@killmoreturtles War stuff? How old are you little guy?
@@killmoreturtles this makes absolutely NO SENSE AT ALL. The Russians pumped in a tonne of money into the Nord Stream project,and they can easily switched off the valve to stop supplies. Why blow up the pipelines??
2:10 Don't you know by now, "We blame Putin" for everything? Make no mistake, it's highly likely that he (might) have done something again like, if it rains or snows, if the sun comes up or go's down, like it might be anything, he never sleeps you know. Thanks for the heads up Gloystein, keep up the good work, and say high to all your friends at the White House for us.
Germany & the EU needs to wake up quickly.. the UK too.
The USA is stabbing them in the back.
“To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
- Henry Kissinger
well said. USA is fucking up Europe and we are happy to die to play as america's lapdogs not realising we are being sacrificed.
Usually, you find who got benefits from a crime was the criminal most likely. But, of course, it is not the "usual time."
The news video itself says the gas is almost all of GZP's revenue though
Nobody can stop Russia's Putin in this world. Including paper tiger, USA.
Woman at 2:11 please?
@@portman8909 you sad sack...
@@jrkr7357 plan is to destroy EU competition
For smart people only : Je vous donne la déclaration en anglais.
Here is US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken saying to the Press in Canada :
" The attack on Nord Stream Pipelines is a TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian Energy"
Yes they were! Because it makes perfect sense to spend billions of dollars on a pipeline then blow the Same pipeline up, Just to prove a point! When they could have turned the handle for the Same end result
Claiming Russia sabotaged its only leverage on Europe right as the power of that leverage is beginning to increase is a bit of a stretch.
there is no hope for people like you or others who learn about the world from the ruzzian state tv.
I heard its not the only pipeline and its currently not being used.
@@heatrayzvideo3007 In case you still don't know. All the threads of the Nord Stream, both the first and the second, were blown up. Yes, the second one was not launched. But when Russia was just carrying out the planned annual maintenance of the first nord stream in the summer, all the world's media accused Russia that it had reduced pumping in order to harm Europe.
@@avag1921 what makes you think I watch Russia state tv?
Because I’m not bowing to the official narrative?
Maybe because common sense should tell you that cutting your only leverage leaves you with none?
I bet you believe Russia was bombing its own troops at that power plant too 😂
If Russia planned to turn it off, which they definitely did, destroying it means there is no clear culprit. Putin can now claim NATO is attacking them.
This was expected, the west was always gonna blame Russia! But their reason really is illogical.
Every one knows the president who said we will stop nord streem!
But the media thing we are stupid
I thought they stopped piping everything so why would there be anything in the pipes to blow up or I thought it was all stopped I thought it was all cut off
Numerous high level Gazprom executives have died under suspicious circumstances in recent months as well. Something's going on.
There's a special window operation going on in Russia it seems
EXACTLY... who is the biggest threat to Putin INSIDE Russia..? Who would benefit most by him disappearing and everything going back to 'normal'? Well now they can't just turn the tap on and start cashing in on the gas any more. The power and potential threat of the oil and gas oligarchs has just taken a massive blow.
People should start realising this is not about Russia... this is about Putin and his determination to protect himself, even if that means marching millions of old men and kids into battlefields to overwhelm the Ukranians like Stalin on the Eastern Front in WW2. There's no price too high that he won't have impoverished Russian people pay for him!
@@appletree6741 which may be brought to little engalnd and stupid usa in the form f nukes
Its a very clear, long time ago, Biden told while in a press conferences, he said , he gonna stop the NS2 at any cost. So, Biden is responsible and behind of this culprit.
"something is going on" is an understatement 😅
This is more likely to be the work of those who DON'T want any kind of deal for Russia to resume supplying gas to the Europe. If Russia wanted to stop gas supplies it would rather just turn off the tap, ready to resume supplies once a deal has been reached, instead of millions of dollars damage.
Exactly. I suspect it's a combined plan of Poland, Baltic, UK and USA.
That's a very foolish statement you can't turn off the gas. And we're past the stage of negotiation, Europe want be baying Russian gas in the future.
What about all the fish mammals in that lot of dead fish and whales and all kinds of sea creatures are going to die from gas ⛽ poison in the sea creatures
But that is exactly what makes it an effective but thinly veiled bluff. The supply is already cut, but that is not destroying infrastructure, not equivalent.
It means it isn't a subject of negotiations. Putin has made it clear he is willing to sacrifice trade with Europe, as he can't get paid in Rubles like he wanted. His own father did the same in Estonia.
In Russia the security services compete with each-other FSB compete with military intelligence, there isn't a spirit of cooperation or unity. While there is a great deal of fear Putin is rapidly loosing control. There are competing factions, he cannot guarantee he will be around long enough to control any negotiation over trade. He can't even trust his anaesthetist.
But you know this Alexei
@@csharpe5787 well I guess the US is still the rich 🤑 💰 with their chemicals and China chemicals dump in those in watery all of those cruise ship they love the dumpster s******* ocean right s s*** anyway eating s*** anyway
My money is on all the monkeying around that's been going on over the last several months. Those pipelines are designed for a constant flow under careful supervision, instead they've been switched on and off, run at reduced flow rates, and left idle with sloppy operators not maintaining the system under the proper pressure to resist the water column bearing down on them. Ruptures were almost inevitable. There's no need to invoke nefarious schemes and complex conspiracies to explain what can be adequately accounted for through incompetence and stupidity, especially given that the Russians seem to have a gift for that sort of thing.
"Putin has so many points of leverage", she says. Well he did until "apparently" he decided to eliminate this one.
Having control over the flow of gas in those pipe lines was a key means of leverage for Putin, not to mention a critical source of income. As if he's behind this, it really is an insult of our intelligence.
Hi from Russia. Thx, bro. Me just tired of fighting bs. Tired of westernits who enter chat just to declare how bad my country is.
Now I'm quit. Be sane and be safe, bro.
Well, Telegraph has a photo of Putin in a tiny submarine, that's enough proof that Russia did it 🤣🤣🤣
@@paulzx5034 I suppose if I was in your position with my government committing a variety of atrocities, I’d also try to rationalise it so I felt less bad about myself.
@@osirisgamingcommunity1798 ??? Both Russia and the West are imperialistic sharks swimming in blood of the victims. Is this statement rational enough?
@@paulzx5034 I'm British and I'm so sick of the irrational disrespect for Russia.
I think in 10 years Novorossiya will be returned to Russia and fully integrated, but Scotland will have left the UK.
poetic justice.
Questions. Who gains from it not Russia but One Country does. 2, Why does Russia still pump gas through Ukraine and pay the Tariff charged by Ukraine. Surely they would have hit that pipeline first.
The USA gains from it as Europe now depends on American LPG .
Putin is a desperate man and I've heard what desperate things, desperate men would do ❗️
Thankfully Ukraine can just annex all the Ukraine area, back to Ukraine.
Remember Putin has already cut back the flow of the oil. When this *"**#Special_Military_Operation**"* is over they can fix those pipes.
Russia cannot blackmail EU about gas anymore and ask that sanctions be lifted. In 6 months of war Russia made the same money as in two years with gas sold through that pipeline
@@dipakbose2677 no they don't these plenty of gas in the North Sea, it's just Russian gas was cheap.
They couldn't hit the pipeline in Ukraine because Russia would have it's hands all over it.
For now we only have suspicions. It could be used as a pretext for a wider conflict by Russia by pointing the blame.
It was U.S 110%
It's a crusty rotten gas pipe!
Why you think there is a new pipe laid!
Duh!
The pipelines go: shushhhhhh... 🤫
Why ? USA
@@brandyluck6171 Because now Russia does not have a bargain chip, to pressure EU about gas, no leverage. Germany had manifestations to reopen it, now they cant step back. EU could be divided about this issue, now they cant. Who wins? USA, because now Russia does not get funded for the war, and weakens Germany and all Europe, yes we are allies but remember Nulland words "F%ck EU". Russia will just re package the oil and gas and sell it through other countries. So basically it was an attack on Europe, we are not allowed to decide by ourselves, we get punished and weaken economically.
1000% and I hope that one day the truth will come out.. For idiots it will be hard to believe but question is: who would benefit from this situation the most? Russia? Eu? Lol.. Russia could turn of the pipeline from their side, no need to demolish it somewhere under the sea and EU? We are are gonna freeze to death if theres no gas and oil.. After that US will come as a saviours with their special offer and sell us "friendly" their oil and gas (maybe for 2-3x higher price than we get before from Russia) and leave their soldiers with military basis in every country they step in to.. And its ALL FOR PEACE, right? All benefit gets US, without war on their land they get what they wanted.. Destabilize whole EU and Russia (before many other countries-especially those with the oil only for the money and still trying to look innocent..) As always.. Half of the soil in UA belongs to USA, thats why they sending guns to them.. "Support" them🤣 Simply using army of other state for their own good.. Dollar went "down" as a currency and thats another reason to make a war in a world.. Euro was higher and they just could not take it.. Greedy and phoney.. But nothing last forever, right?🖕👎
Obviously Russia didn't. It was their leverage against Germany. Now they (Russia but Germany too as a possibility to avoid energetic catastrophy) have lost it thanks to USA and UK.
This is staggering and humiliating for Germany. Any pretence it had to be a sovereign country able to direct its own economic policy is down the toilet forever. What’s even more staggering is that Channel 4 think people are so stupid to believe their propaganda.
The Russians would have destroyed someone else’s pipeline.
You dont know anything about Russia u Muppet... They planted bombs in 1999 south east from Moscow and killed dozens of own citizens just start war... I'm not gonna mention Stalin killing own citizens...
they also did not invade Ukraine. no. they are only on a special military project there. to free Ukraine from the nazi also known as elderly ladies and pregnant woman and children.
G'day,
And whose Pipeline would China cut, if they chose to play the Joker Card ?
Just(ifiably ?) wonderin'.
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
They got mixed up
Blown up the wrong one. 😅
obviously not ... it they attacked the polish pipeline it wouldve been clear beyond doubt who it was. Sowing distrust and confusion is as important for the kremlin as the attack itself
US did that
fake news
Fool
would be really out of character for Biden and require his okay, he is far more cautious
@@Mithril_Antimarr He is a puppet. US deep state is making these decisions.
I can think of reasons why it benefits Putin massively.
What is the pipe made off, is it metal, plastics,... ?
September 4th 2022, German businessman, Karl Peter Griesemann’s private jet crashed into the Baltic Sea off the coast of Latvia, having flown halfway across Europe from Spain whilst unresponsive to ATC calls.
Flight tracking data showed that the Austrian registered Cessna 551 departed from southern Spain on Sunday afternoon, changed course at Paris and Cologne and then flew straight out to the Baltic Sea, before descending rapidly into the ocean killing all on board.
The Griesemann Group was responsible for the maintenance of the Nordstream gas lines.
What is wrong with you people?
Are you lost your mind completely?
Russia could simply turn off the tap from their end if they wanted!
Have you ever heard of the expression “burning bridges”?
Didn't Germany already turn off the tap from Nord Stream 2?
@@GravityShield that must be the left overs in the pipe then.
@@18yearsoldnot cut off one's nose to spite one's face
@@fuckbankers Well the gas wasn't running in either one of those pipes, the first one was halted as well by Russia. I don't know how you think pipelines work but if you turn off the tap, the stuff that's inside the pipe a the the time of closing doesn't just magically disappear. And considering it's Russia we're talking about, I wouldn't be surprised if they just keep blasting the gas in the ocean. They have burned their gas up in smokes near the border of Finland since the start of the war.
Ch.4 should have asked this, who’s benefiting from these sabotages?😢
absolutely. follow the money.
@@jinpxi4078
Somebody elsewhere in cyberspace have pointed out, that Russia is supposed to pay large fines for not delivering gas as contracted. That these fines would quite quickly reach ammounts bigger than the cost of the entire construction. Meaning, that maybe Putin had the pipelines blown up so he can both blame the US for it while also claiming the fines are invalid, because there're no pipelines available to fulfill the contract.
@@CEngelbrecht while just a week prior Russia offered to turn the pipeline back on if sanctions were removed.
Russia will benefit, everyday the Europe cost of living and oil crisis gives Russia the upper hand
Distrattion.
Where is Greta, Dicaprio, Greenpeace??? Or do they just talk about the Amazon??
I am happy that people are waking up to the buffoonery of these media
Kind of premature for anyone to start pointing fingers and accusing anyone of blowing the pipeline until an investigation has concluded.
Almost like this is propaganda.
@@Mrtickleberries Your right. If Germany wants to point the finger at the US then perhaps Germany should investigate.
@@aminulhussain2277 Oh it is. Western propaganda on every news station I can watch. Would be nice to hear something from the other side for a change but it's all been blocked.
We’ve investigated ourselves and found us innocent
@@technoir2584 Who else can profit in a long run… Only USA
Lol I have watch western media they all say it's done by Russia and explained about nice
thats what western media show , pointing whos enemy even they masters is the evil.
Not buying what your selling we know who’s responsible.
The country who would benefit from it the most and had such capability did it. The whole world knew it.
i.e. The USA -- OBVIOUSLY.
just when prices of Gas were starting to drop, coincidence? I think not!
It's test gas.!!!@!!!!!!@@°
Your dreaming
When France (an allied nation) fell to the Nazis in WW2, Britain sailed to the French-Algerian port of Mers El Kébir and destroyed and damaged several French naval vessels so they wouldn't be used against them by the Germans.
Sometimes allies attack each other for strategic advantage.
doesnt seem to be that way though. eu economy will suffer thus less support for ukrain and everyone is pointing their finger to US. Because of this Nato allianz is challenged
That makes no sense. The Britain ships gave the French fleet ample time to join their fleet at Mers El Kébir. It was only after the French gave multiple refusals that they were attacked. That's not at all like this situation where the attack on the pipeline was done in secret, and Russia has not attacked Western infrastructure. If it turns out the West indeed has destroyed this pipeline, then it is fully rational for Russia to strike back at the West hard because such an attack is tantamount to a declaration of war on Russia and arguably even on Germany. Thanks to the misguided logic that this is just like WW2, we are closer to nuclear war than ever before.
@@jeanmuyuela8112 Maybe not. But the US processing a 12billion dollar aid package as we speak. They are very much capable of supporting Ukraine with EU assistance. Besides, this may motivate EU countries ensure the war comes to a swift end. Sure europe will be hurt in the short term but Russia will be hurt even more.
Not when the petrodollar has slumped due to sanctions on Russia. Oil at a higher rate. Its economic sense for America to do away with those 2 pipelines. That and China the big super power with a booming economy. The only advance is economics.
Exactly... except in this situation its his enemies within Russia... they can't just oust him turn the gas back on.
I hope Everyone understands that Russia has complete control of the gas being pumped .All they have to do is turn off the valve.
Whoever blew it up is far far away and has no stake in it. Who could that be, I wonder!!
It wasn't Russia
And how do you know this?
Belarus then
@@gaylemc2692 because he's not a stupid sheep.
@@chadimirputin2282 says the guy with the username Chadmir Putin.
The ultimate sheep for the Russian cause to annex its neighbors and genocide those who resist
@@gaylemc2692 because Joe Biden told us he was going to do it. That's how dumb he is thinking that's going to Cripple Russia obviously he doesn't care if the people of Europe freeze to death
Why ? They have a tap if they wanted to shut it off.
Sounds more like USA
Or a desperate Russia trying to sow seeds of doubt amongst it's opponents, putting Europe against the US.
It is switched off. The pressurised gas in the pipe is venting.
It was Sasquatch
Putin mind games, blowing it up means he can pass blame onto the US for shutting it off.
Having a pipeline that could just be switched on again.... if only Putin was gone.... is a pretty likely reason the pipeline is gone.
Just as lots of Russian oil and gas executives have stopped posing a threat in 2022... so many strange deaths of Russian businessmen have happened this year that Wikipedia has a page dedicated to keeping track of them!
See a connection now?
It was the US. Biden explicitly said they would do it.
Reminds me of those stickers that say "I did that".
One thing that is missing in all this is how was it done, was there shipping or submarine activity in the area at the time of the explosion, I can't believe that NATO doesn't have detailed monitoring in the Baltic especially now. Or was it a bomb inserted into the pipeline?
Clive Williams
Underwater Drones did it.
USA is able to do it. They have all the tools.
Russia destroys his own very expensive Pipelines? NO. Surely not!
It could have been a number of ways:
Depth charge thrown overboard
Divers with charges (70m is not deep)
Drones.
Subs.
Any military in Europe has the capability of doing this without detection- it's a super easy target.
@@waldemarburkli7692 Freaking Namibia could have pulled this off; it's not exactly hard.
@@waldemarburkli7692I assume that the drones were launched from a ship or dropped from a plane as the distance from Kallningrad ought to be excessive. If that is the case NATO ought to have been monitoring the activity.
@@vice.nor.virtue Are you saying that NATO doesn't have the capability and the forethought to observe any of these possibilities? NATO monitors submarine activity anywhere close to the Trans-Atlantic telecoms cable, usually by Russian subs.
Russia takes its safety seriously. They are the largest land power on this planet. USA is the only would profit from bad relationships between Russia and EU
Russia and safety in the same sentence, lol. Their land power appears to be dwindling, the fact they're calling up civilians to supplement that power doesn't inspire confidence.
@@MrSamoDude You seem to have some confusion over the term Land Power - In the original post it is obvious that the context refers to the sheer magnitude and size of the country - its wealth of resources. That is not dwindling as you infer as there has been no loss of land mass of 'Russia' Oddly however you consider the word 'Power' to indicate military might even though contextually it is associated here with 'Land' - Your attention to such nuanced language and your understanding therefore doesn't 'Inspire confidence' that you know what you are talking about and that your utterances are merely provocative posturing taken from the hidden recesses of your low resolution and prejudiced mindset.
A great reflection to this may be the quote from one of the great philosophers - Plato: WISE MEN SPEAK BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY; FOOLS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING
@@Anfield-Arts2024 The Collins dictionary definition of land power is “military power on land”. I think my understanding is pretty accurate, your interpretation of the original comment obviously differs from mine!
2.5 on the 'Richter scale' that's a very tactical type of explosion of the pipelines? Should we be worried about what type it might tactically be?
Its not that deep. Depth charges? Would they even need anything more sophisticated that a fishing boat?
its simetrical a explosion of a torpedo , its likely a submarine atack
@@marcosbatista1029 I don’t know much about military stuff, but if there were submarines from say, Russia, wouldn’t we have know they were there?
Russia increased the pressure in the pipe in order to snap the pipe.
Now Russia will just use the new pipe!I
Why are you even listening to mainstream media propaganda machine!
The old pipe was due to be turned off!
The new pipe has new pumps to go with the nice New pipe!
...
Stop soaking up mainstream media propaganda
To Send a message,if we can do this. Watch out for your Atlantic internet cables.
These presstitutes will say ANYTHING.
This is the perfect example of Russians out, Germany down and America in.
How stupid? It was USA. They alluded to this back in February. Russia doesn't have much to gain from this, follow the money. Who will supply us expensive LNG? Who has naval assets close by?Come on guys.
It's abit like a firebug works in the firestation. Some one wants to escalate the war.
Please repent and turn from your sins Jesus Christ is coming back for his people and you do not want to be left behind im not saying this to scare you this is a biblical even that’s about to take place most of the bible prophecy has been fulfilled it’s only a matter of time do your own research it’s not about religion it’s about a relationship stay blessed people ❤🙏
Waiting for the video from this channel, where it will be explained that Russia actually started WW2 and that Nazi were not actually that bad guys
Will other cables gas line or Internet cables be blown into pieces ...
I could believe the Russians were responsible if it turned out they were aiming for pipes in a completely different sea area!
@@Pooflo2 I think you missed the point of my post...
Funny
This is a way for the Russians to get the west to stop the war. Because Putin has lost almost everything.
Hit and Run. Usually the Yanks killing their own on so called blue on blue!
Makes more sence than 90 percent of the bozos comments...probadly also believe you.
Newest trend in crime. Home invade someone. Force them to sign over their house deed at gunpoint. Declare yourself the owner of the house.
And also blow up your getaway car and blame it on some other criminal.
If the neighbors complain just cut their electricity
a certain country in the middle east
The fact is that they all really love Russia there. That is why Ukraine has been killing them since 2014, including with rockets from airplanes at peaceful assemblies, food markets, killing its own citizens and their children.
Banks been doing that for years
Just a reminder. Solar and wind power doesn't have to be imported. And they will last as long as the earth revolves around the sun.
Just a reminder - solar and wind power are useless - particularly at night time, when it is overcast during the day and when the wind is not blowing
This is absurd, its ridiculous and shameful. How would Russia do that!
USA 🇺🇲 did it as Biden promised.
This might be a good time too if you're in the stock market buy coal, something tells me that Europe is going to be buying a lot of coal for this winter instead of oil and gas
Coal isn't sold via stock exchanges
I thought we are not supposed to use coal any more.
Why BUY..GET IT FROM THE NEIGHBOURS COAL SHEDS WHILE THER ASLEEP IN BED..
@@thevoxdeus very right..get it free from the neighbours coal sheds while ther asleep..I do..
@@olivergrumitt2601 Around 40% of the worlds electricity comes from coal.
Channel 4 broadcasting from Tel aviv or Washington??
Haha the Russian hit the wrong gas line They hit their instead pmsl
If this is tolerated would set a precedent that any country can just grab land belonging to another sovereign country with impunity.
What about the law and legality⁉️
Law and legality died when wasterners genocided millions and millions of people in middle east without a single leader getting hanged for war crime.
Does that apply to the occupation of 1/3 of Syria by the US for its oil? How was Kosovo formed or the Golan Heights, Syria annexed by apartheid israel with US blessing? Look back in history and you'll find the US has been built on land theft.
Fiona Hill is a great loss as a should-have-been British Prime Minister. 😭
Agreed. I doubt she’d be considered posh enough though
@@magesalmanac6424 You think Truss is posh ?
Would not make a difference, because they have been bought and sold long time ago .
@@pxr0583 You're right; LT isn't posh either but ONLY has DELUSIONS of intellect and grandeur. She's PM because "Old England Cons" couldn't choose someone with brown skin. Social mobility in England is a myth.
FH has the nouse to run a government. Shame she's American now. 😭
@@mihaivo4113 You're just a nihilist. It must suck to be you 🤔.
The UK has regular power cuts coming this winter.
Yeah, underwater drones are actually hard to detect.
It won't take weeks for investigators to examine the blast site. Why did she say that? I don't like it when news people just say what they think when it is clearly factually wrong. They could do that within 24 hours. The Baltic Sea is very shallow and many commercial submersibles could handle the examination task easily. I read it was 150 meters in depth where the blast took place. That's very shallow.
It was not even blown up! It is just a crusty rusty pipe and this is why number 2 was laid!
Hybrid war goes on … German bet on it and will have to pay the ultimate price 😊
Everything comes full circle.
It is only money - we will spent 100 bn on military next years, 500 bn into corona recovery etc. ... these are just numbers - if we have something it is money. Do you really think my life as a German has changed over the last years? Think again! --- Central Europe = "the densest concentration of wealth in the world." --> It is not me saying this. It is him --> ruclips.net/video/NNUriy9bq-E/видео.html AND he's right!
It was Putin himself. No scuba diving gear. He does it on breath.
You know it was Russia, just because this is such an old war tactic, and doesn't Putin love those - attack yourself pretending it was the enemy to create a reason to strike them.
It was the USA
Russia is already fighting a war. It doesn't need new targets or excuses to strike them.
I blame The Kingdom of Antarctica for the Special Coincidence Operation
USA - They’ve been threatening EU to get off the Russians pipeline for years… This is a fake war … Russia had no benefit from doing it. He can shut the tap off -
Guess what other pipeline shall have an explosion now?
Hopefully we go on renewables soon. This Russian maniac should no longer have a say!
Путин взрывает,это очевидно. РоССию надо изолировать от цивилизованного мира.
@@stampcollector74 amazing , every single word you said makes no sense
@@alessandromicali7907 ... it does for me. до свидания Alessandro.
@@alessandromicali7907 Good to have a chance to talk nonsense. This is what I call a free society.
Entire world is blaming US.
meanwhile Britain: Russia
Very much appreciate hearing Fiona Hill's take on the sabotage. She has studied Russia all her adult life, was an exchange student when it was still the Soviet Union, and in 2017 became deputy assistant to the president and senior director for European and Russian affairs on his National Security Council staff. She understands the workings of the Russian government better than most Russian citizens do.
*Putin just saved his on life! If Putin is killed now Russia can not go back to business as usual by turning a value. He is VERY sleigh.*