Skip to about 17 min mark if you want to bypass the chat & get straight into the ACTION. I usually get right into it, but wanted to give a little more backstory to celebrate 10k subscriber mark. Thanks again to each and every one of you! You guys rock 👊
Man I love seeing these tools! I enjoyed the little bit of background story for the channel. I’m sure your videos popped up in my suggested posts from watching Kurtis over at CEE. New sub 🤙🏼
"You call that a drill bit? Now here's a drill bit." Paul Hogan a real man! Thank you Matt it's great fun to watch your videos. If I was still married this would be a great marital aide!
At first when I saw the calipers, I thought it was a cane and you had an injury. So relieved when you held them up to show the massive size of them. Glad you're in good shape!!!
Since the boting head is replaceable, try the opposite hand boring head and run the spindle in reverse, chip removal should be better because the chips will fall away from the insert to the bottom of the hole and wash out easier.
I stumbled on your channel a couple of weeks ago, mostly triggered by the fact your jobs are all about the drilling industry. I'm an old fart, been a driller in the oil and gas industry for more than 20 years and then went into maintenance, proces engineering, electrical engineering and machining, so you're hitting all the right buttons. I hope to retire next year after a 51 year career in the heavy industry. Love your machining and hope to see the big drillbit in action.
Thanks mate. Yeah, I’m surprised how fast it’s all been growing. I honestly thought 500-1000 would have been a stellar result for the first year. Great work on having a channel by the way. Lots of people talk about it, but full credit to anyone who’s out there having a crack 👊👊
Liking y’all’s videos. Y’all’s emphasis thus far is on machine work. I’d be interested in y’all’s welding as well, especially weldments, and y’all’s processes to manage distortion, materials, etc. Suspect those topics / subjects, would broaden y’all’s audience, as well. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
Thanks mate! Yeah, we are going to be incorporating more of the fab work into the channel over time. We have some very skilled boilermakers and fabricators, so it’ll be good to see them in action too.
I really love your shop made equipment. Watching you holding that calliper reminds me at the company where i did my apprenticeship. Its one of the 2 worlds-biggest manufacturers of offset-printing machines. We had micrometers with mounted ringbolts to lift them over the workpiece with a crane.
Again a great vdo and job. The touching point in this vdo is, which I personally like the most, that you have put the name of machines to your GRAND PA and your FATHERS name. This point is very touching, like your job, which shows how dedicated your family with these machine.In my words it is not job get then in your workshop, it is called WORSHIP. Hope to see more in coming vdo.
that, i assume, brazed on coolant feed tube makes my TIG skills tingle. the boring bars are something else, i can't believe your grandfather started machining at the age i retired from working, but the promise of seeing that drill in action is the cookie for me. entertaining and informative as usual.
Thank you very much. Yeah… grandad was a remarkable guy. He just LOVED working. Happiest I ever saw him was working behind a big green lathe. Just spinning away.
Hi Matt, I was just about to tag a video of David Wilks trepanning monster stuff, and I saw you got there already. lol. He is a salty dude, pity about the company he worked for. I run 3 Colchester T8'S a lot smaller than your stuff, but a word to the wise, If you ever need any spares, check with 600 group now, as I have had all sorts of problems getting what I thought would be standard parts. I ended up making them myself after getting ridiculous prices and lead times for them. Best wishes mate, Mal.
This is the most interesting video I've seen on your channel so far. I enjoyed hearing about your and father's background. Your videography is much better with closeup views. That cutting head is huge and I look forward to seeing it in operation. How much horsepower and torque does that big CNC mill produce?
love to see a drawing of where all these parts are going,. how much is this going to weigh with 250m drill rod? cant wait to see the whole rig spinning round with the drill staioary 🤣🤣.
Great vid, keep up the good work. Cool to hear about the history of the shop. With the amount of roughing youre doing, have you considered using the cnmg spare geometry? A bit more cutting force with the 100deg tipangle, but close to unbeatable on cast or welds or otherwise dirty material, and as a bonus, youll get 8 corners out of your cnmg plate istead of 4.
We do use the square ones from time to time. It just happened that Kong was already set up with the CNMG tip, so we went with it. Man those inserts are durable!
Usual great video mate 👏👏 Have core drilled other materials in the past, concrete, stone, brick etc and to my mind although U drilling and boring might take a bit more time doesn’t it reduce the inherent risk of tool jamming on ejected material ? Who ever did the torque stress calcs on the components of the drill rig must be having sleepless nights after seeing that humungous auger arrive, they’ve gotta be some wild figures as the stresses must go up and down as it ploughs through different rock/soil strata !! Looking forward to the next instalment 😊
Dude the torque this rig produces is mind boggling. How the engineers calculated it is beyond me. Can’t wait to see it in action. Will be one wild video
Cnmg are my most used but if I had to pick a "favorite" I'd be tempted to say SNMG. I try and use them as much as I possibly can. Very robust cutting edge, and they hold up noticably better to a lot of the nasty interrupted cuts, weld buildup, etc we do. It also doesnt hurt that no one else seems to like them and I can pick them up on ebay for next to nothing
We run a ton of SNMG 644 here. The smaller ones don't seem to gain much over a CNMG, however the big ones with a large nose radius will really take a beating. We had a job a while back building up rollers that a large drum dryer at a salt mine turns on. They were about 10mm of hardfacing buildup on the OD turned back down. These rollers were 18" diameter and 6" wide, fully covered in hard facing. The big CNMG were all I could find that'd hold up on it
Oh wow. That’s some seriously gnarly cutting conditions too. Hard face is the bloody worst. I’m just about to set up a new S boring bar. It’s an Iscsr special so we’ll see how it goes…
@halheavyduty yeah it was a pretty awful job lol. Went through a few packs of inserts on that one. Haven't ran much iscar, be interested to see how it performs for you. I just picked up a KM63 turning tool to build boring bar along the lines of the ones you make. Really love the look of them, one of the best ideas I've seen in a while
Iscar are great. The inserts are comparable to seco or Kennametal IMO, and the best part is they turn up overnight. They don’t have the awesome KM heads though. Man those things are AWESOME for tool building.
Matt, that is a massive improvement on Battle Kong. Now it's time to tinker with The Kracken. Maybe cut in an MT2 inside to help with bit retention and ease of sharpening. One can still order MT2 shanked large bits as well.
Matt--the category of work you are into would be greatly expedited mounted on a vertical boring mill--30+ inch table at least--twin cutting heads to offset deflection forces-- regards
We have looked into getting one, but the three companies we inquired with didn’t think the vertical boring setup would be ideal for our kind of work. Hence why we are looking at megabore lathe instead. That said, I’m still undecided. Curious on your thoughts m?
Another good video Matt. Always good to watch someserious machining with a practical attitude. The CNMG style insert is strong because of its 80 degree corner giving a lot of support behind the cutting edge.The introduction of the W style insert offered an 80 degree corner but with 6 cutting edges. Do you have a tool that accepts the 100 degree corner of the CNMG as this is the strongest corner and really good for facing 'shitty' operations like gas cut or weld build up. Cheers Ian
I’ll look into that. Thanks Ian, really appreciate the comment mate. My general go to is the WNMG for most machining in the shop… we just use the CNMG for the heavy, larger cuts. Mostly because of how durable they are in the odd case when they break. I like the W inserts I’ve found they hold together better.
Hi. Just joined your site. have a quick question: Why do you not Treppan the material? (See David Wilks). I think your machines have the power, no? None-the-less keep them highly interesting vids coming, ja? Greetz from Germany
I prefer trepanning to drilling, and we are in the process of making a much longer core drill. Our current 7” one isn’t long enough for the job. I love David’s channel. Have learned a great deal just watching. The man was a true master machinist, especially when it comes to trepanning.
Dude, loose the beard. During my machine tool design college, I witnessed a bearded guy on a Hardinge 2nd operation lathe get wrapped-up. Forward, reverse, forward, reverse, until it tore-off his chin. Hard to talk when you're missing your lower lip. Also, CUT any long hair. "Hippie", was working the radial drill press, and sucked his hair into the drill bit. I helped remove his scalp from the drill bit that was not saved. In the end, Hippie's hair part-line was 'off', and he had a right ear 1" higher than the left ear. Really shocking when you're collecting scalp and hair to send to the emergency room. Keep up the great content. Can't wait for the next video!!
That’s gnarly! Yeah, if I worked on the manual machines more frequently I’d probably shave it… but almost 90% is behind the enclosed CNC. It does need a trim though. Way too bushranger…
We named it after Grandad - but the 2001 reference wasn’t lost on me either. HAL was the original badass computer for sure. Love that movie. So ahead of its time
@@halheavyduty he spoke of moving to thailand. I will hold out hope to see more of his work. I watched the closing shop/selling off episodes. His voice resonated emotion like no other. Was rather sad to say the least. Nothing but the best of wishes for him.
Only 3 inserts in 35 big parts like that is insane also the clean machines in the shop as a apprentice we clean them everyday I just love seeing a clean machine naming machines and tools makes work so much more enjoyable also how accurate do spade drills drill I heard that it’s almost like it’s reamned
They’re remarkably durable, even with pretty heavy cuts and shitty conditions. Yeah, I love working in a clean organised shop. Takes a bit of work, but it’s definitely worth the effort. Can’t handle filth. When I took over the shop we literally had to scrape it clean. Years of grime…
@@halheavyduty yea we clean our machines everyday in our apprentice machine shop I really don’t mind it worth it having a perfectly clean machine the next day you can start working emiditaly with
Normally, a CNC video is about as exciting as an EV to me. Both are basica6 1st cousins to a battery forklift, no soul. But, credit to you mate, you make your videos interesting and fun to watch. BTW, east coast USA, mid-atlantic region. Often referred to as Graveyard of the Atlantic.
It’s a bit different to what most shops use, as we only really machine 4140 steel. The product is called Holemaker by ITM. Works well for us, but not sure how it performs on other materials
Question, why aren't you just using an off the shelf anti vibration bars? They are better than solid bars in pretty much every way than a solid steel bar and if you use a quick change system like the KM heads then you can just mount up the bar in your solid mount holder and just swap out heads instead of change the whole bar for every tool. On my big lathe I use a 7xD 2.5" (63.5mm) bar from sandvik and I can run the machine out of power no problem with it and not have a bit of vibration. Also threading with a devibe bar is very nice.
That’s good to know! We haven’t run anti vibe bars yet, but I’m looking into them at the moment. Open to all suggestions. Sounds like you’ve got experience with them.
Would also suggest the dampened bars from Sandvik, used them on some pretty awful 4340 steel hardened and they never batted an eyelid All the big suppliers will have their own dampened range but after having a chance to look around at the market, sandvik offered more versatility on their hardware
When you say "it can do a lighter cut" (as just a watcher) does that mean that you can now put the round back in the round? Talk - you can never talk too much. We/I want to know all the things that you think we should already know. Thanks Matt I do look forward to your video.
Thanks mate! Yeah, so by “lighter cut” I mean that the bar is rigid enough to take an extra pass before it starts cutting heavily. The old Kong would bounce too much, but BattleKong can handle it. It just means a first pass (light cut) takes off most of the oval shape before I plow in on the second pass
Could it be possible to build a tool stabilizer. That is similar to a follow rest. Only a stationary but to prevent tool movement just as it enters the work. Having a couple roller tipped dowels meeting the tool. Allowing the tool to still enter the work. Possibly a ring of 25mm thick steel, 25-50 mm wide. With 20-35mm dowels with rollers on the tip.meeting the tool at 22°-45° or 60°- 90° from each other. Depending on the deflection angle, possibly placed at 3-4 different angles . Just an idea it would need to be quickly deployed and removed.. to allow tool movement however it would likely only be used for long deep boring jobs. Maybe a more sophisticated stabilizer can be designed to be mounted with the tool post or attachment. And allow full tool motion possibly by disengaging the stabilizer automatically. Then the boring bars wouldn't need to be Soo large. 50-60mm x 300+ possibly. Just an idea. Have an awesome day .
I like your thinking, but the best solution is to build a direct toolpost that rises right off the cross slide. It’ll remove all the vibration and be super rigid. We are doing a further upgrade in the very near future. Should be a fun little build
the last cut was sounded just the way it should personally im a bigger fan of the wnmg insert's since they are just as strong but have 6 cutting edges instead of 4
I’m a huge fan of WNMG inserts, and we do about 85% of all work with them. I just prefer the CNMG for heaving boring… mostly because of how well they handle nasty conditions and seem to keep cutting even when damaged.
@@halheavyduty good to know and also fair if thats what you prefer. personally when its a laser/flame cut hole i have to bore out i prefer useing a hss insert instead of a carbide since the hss is more flexible/less brittle so can better take the beating/hammering it would get untill clean/uninterrupted cuts do wounder how well kennametals fix8 would do ( since they are 8 cornered beats. 12mm doc in radius /24mm in diameter with 0.6mm pr. revolution and sfm 195 plus easy ) so some real beast's
I’ve heard a lot of mixed reviews (though mostly good) about the fix8 If we were doing more shafts etc I’d def invest in it. Some insane DOC on those inserts
@@halheavyduty sounds fair. i bet that if you change its geometry just right by angeling it right it could also work if ID work. but then agen it might a bit to much to ask from a boring bar to take that amough of force where it dont have wear pads to stabelice itself agenst the walls of the part i imean. imagine the for of 12mm doc radual 195sfm ( in metric ) with 0.6mm pr. rotation and then ask a bar at like 450-500 mm stickout. if you stick with the normal3 times dia rule of thumb it would have to be around 166-167mm in diameter to be happy would like to see you make a solid tingsten carbide / tungsten carbide reinforced boring bar to be honest. i bet it would a good tool to have for your machine's. just like a internal burnishing tool ( it would give you a even better surface finish and also a harder surface on top of that ) i can draw one up for you if you like
We’ve got two mills. They’re featured in the original shop tour, but they were absolutely filthy when I filmed the quick tour. A little Bridgeport & a big solid bed mill we affectionately call Godzilla
I hear you re the grit / grime. I had to clean about a decade of filth and clutter when I took over the shop, and it was bloody disgusting. Intolerably so. We do our very best to keep everything organised and clean as possible. I just can't work well in a gross workplace.
The Hulk Heman Brave Star Dino riders Bucky OHare Samorai Pizza Cats King Arthur and the Knights pf Justice. Dude that era of shows defined me as a small boy.
Skip to about 17 min mark if you want to bypass the chat & get straight into the ACTION.
I usually get right into it, but wanted to give a little more backstory to celebrate 10k subscriber mark.
Thanks again to each and every one of you! You guys rock 👊
Congrats on the 10k! Wont be long to double that. What kinda of torque does a drill that size require for use?
Man I love seeing these tools! I enjoyed the little bit of background story for the channel. I’m sure your videos popped up in my suggested posts from watching Kurtis over at CEE. New sub 🤙🏼
A lot of your viewers watch what you do not because they are machinist but because what you do is interesting > please show more.
@halheavyduty we had a big brass bar we called THE EQUALISER
I struggle with 'little' workshop, It really is awesome to watch steel being made into swarf. Thanks so much for the content.
Cheers mate! Thanks so much for tuning in 👊🙏
"You call that a drill bit? Now here's a drill bit." Paul Hogan a real man! Thank you Matt it's great fun to watch your videos. If I was still married this would be a great marital aide!
Hahaha. Cheers brother 👊
Nice and quiet dogs ! Happy life for them to be in a workshop...
strange they aren't disturb with noise 😂😂😂
They’re used to it 🤣🤣
I really would not advise a late night visit though.1
At first when I saw the calipers, I thought it was a cane and you had an injury. So relieved when you held them up to show the massive size of them. Glad you're in good shape!!!
Still fighting fit. Just need the black cloak and I’d pass off for the grim reaper with those bloody big calipers.
I like all of your videos, just found your channel a week ago, thanks.
I've been following you from Argentina. I really like your videos. Congratulations on your 10k!! You'll soon reach 100k! You'll see!
Muchas gracias amigo! De q parte de Argentina vives?
Como me encanta el asado y fernet! ✌️
Very interesting on how these big tools are made.
💯🙏👊
Since the boting head is replaceable, try the opposite hand boring head and run the spindle in reverse, chip removal should be better because the chips will fall away from the insert to the bottom of the hole and wash out easier.
I stumbled on your channel a couple of weeks ago, mostly triggered by the fact your jobs are all about the drilling industry. I'm an old fart, been a driller in the oil and gas industry for more than 20 years and then went into maintenance, proces engineering, electrical engineering and machining, so you're hitting all the right buttons. I hope to retire next year after a 51 year career in the heavy industry. Love your machining and hope to see the big drillbit in action.
Thanks mate, and congrats on a very solid career in the industry. 52 years is a heck of an accomplishment
We all like our engineering & your uploads are enjoyable & learning
Keep them coming & edited vgood
Cheers brother. Much appreciated.
Great video. Love the talking part - gives a little background to what you're doing and that's great.
Thank you very much.
10K subs in no time. That's a very nice result. Congratulations.
I do RUclips for over six years and I haven't reached 10K :)
Thanks mate. Yeah, I’m surprised how fast it’s all been growing. I honestly thought 500-1000 would have been a stellar result for the first year.
Great work on having a channel by the way. Lots of people talk about it, but full credit to anyone who’s out there having a crack 👊👊
Liking y’all’s videos.
Y’all’s emphasis thus far is on machine work.
I’d be interested in y’all’s welding as well, especially weldments, and y’all’s processes to manage distortion, materials, etc.
Suspect those topics / subjects, would broaden y’all’s audience, as well.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers
Thanks mate! Yeah, we are going to be incorporating more of the fab work into the channel over time.
We have some very skilled boilermakers and fabricators, so it’ll be good to see them in action too.
I really love your shop made equipment. Watching you holding that calliper reminds me at the company where i did my apprenticeship. Its one of the 2 worlds-biggest manufacturers of offset-printing machines. We had micrometers with mounted ringbolts to lift them over the workpiece with a crane.
That’s one heck of a micrometer! Thanks for the kind feedback too. Much appreciated.
Again a great vdo and job. The touching point in this vdo is, which I personally like the most, that you have put the name of machines to your GRAND PA and your FATHERS name. This point is very touching, like your job, which shows how dedicated your family with these machine.In my words it is not job get then in your workshop, it is called WORSHIP. Hope to see more in coming vdo.
Thank you for the kind feedback my friend.
Love watching glow when the chip breaks.
Makes two of us 👊💯
that, i assume, brazed on coolant feed tube makes my TIG skills tingle. the boring bars are something else, i can't believe your grandfather started machining at the age i retired from working, but the promise of seeing that drill in action is the cookie for me. entertaining and informative as usual.
Thank you very much. Yeah… grandad was a remarkable guy. He just LOVED working. Happiest I ever saw him was working behind a big green lathe. Just spinning away.
Great job and video. Watch all your videos as they come up.
👍👍👍
Greg
NSW
Cheers Greg! Appreciate the support my friend 👊
We use cnmg’s for most of our roughing. Do really well on eccentric shafts with the interrupted cuts and just heavy turning in general.
Such durable inserts. Big fan.
Hi Matt, Great content and the shop made bars may not be pretty, but they are very cost effective, making chips and solving your machining issues.
Cheers Gary!
Hi Matt, I was just about to tag a video of David Wilks trepanning monster stuff, and I saw you got there already. lol. He is a salty dude, pity about the company he worked for. I run 3 Colchester T8'S a lot smaller than your stuff, but a word to the wise, If you ever need any spares, check with 600 group now, as I have had all sorts of problems getting what I thought would be standard parts. I ended up making them myself after getting ridiculous prices and lead times for them. Best wishes mate, Mal.
Cheers Mal! That’s good to know mate. I’d always thought Colchester were pretty good with spares?
Definitely not cheap though.
15:44 Almost looks like a crack in Battle Kong.
He ain’t pretty… but he’s a much better animal since the upgrade.
Now that's a drill bit! Damn!
It’s a bloody monster. And that’s just the auger bit for the first 8m
The actual drill is three times as big. It looks like a missile
Ive just finished some Bull gears, Spindals and pinions for a D1200 gearbox that goes on drilling rigs. Ill be milling the housing for them soon.
Nice work!
Nice callout to David Wilkes
He was a true master of his craft. The OG for trepanning.
@@halheavyduty I don’t think anyone cut as much inconel as he did. I have a love/hate relationship with it myself
Whole workshop full of new machines❤
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This is the most interesting video I've seen on your channel so far. I enjoyed hearing about your and father's background. Your videography is much better with closeup views. That cutting head is huge and I look forward to seeing it in operation. How much horsepower and torque does that big CNC mill produce?
Thank you my friend! The CNC has about 30hp. Not sure of the torque off the top of my head.
It’s got some grunt… but we def need a bigger CNC
Great episode congratulations on the excellent achievement now let's go for 100000 👍
Thank you! Yep, that’s the goal. Just focusing on improving each video and sharing the stuff I find genuinely interesting.
love to see a drawing of where all these parts are going,. how much is this going to weigh with 250m drill rod? cant wait to see the whole rig spinning round with the drill staioary 🤣🤣.
Dude it blows my mind how the bit just doesn’t bite in and the rig doesn’t start spinning 🤣
Great vid, keep up the good work. Cool to hear about the history of the shop.
With the amount of roughing youre doing, have you considered using the cnmg spare geometry? A bit more cutting force with the 100deg tipangle, but close to unbeatable on cast or welds or otherwise dirty material, and as a bonus, youll get 8 corners out of your cnmg plate istead of 4.
We do use the square ones from time to time. It just happened that Kong was already set up with the CNMG tip, so we went with it.
Man those inserts are durable!
@@halheavyduty Shure. Square ones even better on those jobs.
Good to know 👍👍
Fun times Matt. You have a good presence in front of the camera and I have no doubt you'll gain followers most rikki-tik.
Thank you for the kind feedback. Really appreciate the support
Usual great video mate 👏👏
Have core drilled other materials in the past, concrete, stone, brick etc and to my mind although U drilling and boring might take a bit more time doesn’t it reduce the inherent risk of tool jamming on ejected material ?
Who ever did the torque stress calcs on the components of the drill rig must be having sleepless nights after seeing that humungous auger arrive, they’ve gotta be some wild figures as the stresses must go up and down as it ploughs through different rock/soil strata !!
Looking forward to the next instalment 😊
Dude the torque this rig produces is mind boggling. How the engineers calculated it is beyond me.
Can’t wait to see it in action. Will be one wild video
Cnmg are my most used but if I had to pick a "favorite" I'd be tempted to say SNMG. I try and use them as much as I possibly can. Very robust cutting edge, and they hold up noticably better to a lot of the nasty interrupted cuts, weld buildup, etc we do. It also doesnt hurt that no one else seems to like them and I can pick them up on ebay for next to nothing
Nice! Yeah the old SNMG are a bloody good insert. Good for the nasty stuff 💯
We run a ton of SNMG 644 here. The smaller ones don't seem to gain much over a CNMG, however the big ones with a large nose radius will really take a beating.
We had a job a while back building up rollers that a large drum dryer at a salt mine turns on. They were about 10mm of hardfacing buildup on the OD turned back down. These rollers were 18" diameter and 6" wide, fully covered in hard facing. The big CNMG were all I could find that'd hold up on it
Oh wow. That’s some seriously gnarly cutting conditions too. Hard face is the bloody worst.
I’m just about to set up a new S boring bar. It’s an Iscsr special so we’ll see how it goes…
@halheavyduty yeah it was a pretty awful job lol. Went through a few packs of inserts on that one.
Haven't ran much iscar, be interested to see how it performs for you.
I just picked up a KM63 turning tool to build boring bar along the lines of the ones you make. Really love the look of them, one of the best ideas I've seen in a while
Iscar are great. The inserts are comparable to seco or Kennametal IMO, and the best part is they turn up overnight.
They don’t have the awesome KM heads though. Man those things are AWESOME for tool building.
Matt, that is a massive improvement on Battle Kong. Now it's time to tinker with The Kracken. Maybe cut in an MT2 inside to help with bit retention and ease of sharpening. One can still order MT2 shanked large bits as well.
Agreed. I like your suggestion. Will be tinkering with The Kraken very soon.
@@halheavydutymy thoughts would be to use a “small” insert drill in the center as a pilot.
It def needs some tweaking. I hold out hope for the worlds wildest shop made drill 🤣
Matt--the category of work you are into would be greatly expedited mounted on a vertical boring mill--30+ inch table at least--twin cutting heads to offset deflection forces-- regards
We have looked into getting one, but the three companies we inquired with didn’t think the vertical boring setup would be ideal for our kind of work.
Hence why we are looking at megabore lathe instead. That said, I’m still undecided.
Curious on your thoughts m?
Okay brother, we got you to 10k. Next stop, 100k!
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Another good video Matt. Always good to watch someserious machining with a practical attitude. The CNMG style insert is strong because of its 80 degree corner giving a lot of support behind the cutting edge.The introduction of the W style insert offered an 80 degree corner but with 6 cutting edges. Do you have a tool that accepts the 100 degree corner of the CNMG as this is the strongest corner and really good for facing 'shitty' operations like gas cut or weld build up. Cheers Ian
I’ll look into that. Thanks Ian, really appreciate the comment mate.
My general go to is the WNMG for most machining in the shop… we just use the CNMG for the heavy, larger cuts.
Mostly because of how durable they are in the odd case when they break. I like the W inserts I’ve found they hold together better.
Cyber Kong, congrats on 10,000
Cyber Kong. Love it 👊
Love the names :)
Thanks Paul!
Hi. Just joined your site. have a quick question: Why do you not Treppan the material? (See David Wilks). I think your machines have the power, no? None-the-less keep them highly interesting vids coming, ja? Greetz from Germany
I prefer trepanning to drilling, and we are in the process of making a much longer core drill.
Our current 7” one isn’t long enough for the job. I love David’s channel. Have learned a great deal just watching.
The man was a true master machinist, especially when it comes to trepanning.
Have I missed what the 3 meter wide 250 meter deep hole is for? All my home made tools have ACME 'O' MATIC name's. Used to watch road runner cartoons
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They’re for underground mining ventilation and rescue shafts.
And setting traps for road runners 💯
I hope you can show some video of this 3 metre drill in action.
It’s 100% going to happen
Dude, loose the beard. During my machine tool design college, I witnessed a bearded guy on a Hardinge 2nd operation lathe get wrapped-up. Forward, reverse, forward, reverse, until it tore-off his chin. Hard to talk when you're missing your lower lip.
Also, CUT any long hair. "Hippie", was working the radial drill press, and sucked his hair into the drill bit. I helped remove his scalp from the drill bit that was not saved. In the end, Hippie's hair part-line was 'off', and he had a right ear 1" higher than the left ear.
Really shocking when you're collecting scalp and hair to send to the emergency room. Keep up the great content. Can't wait for the next video!!
That’s gnarly! Yeah, if I worked on the manual machines more frequently I’d probably shave it… but almost 90% is behind the enclosed CNC.
It does need a trim though.
Way too bushranger…
Interesting I figured Hal was named after the computer in 2001 because it was a CNC lathe.
We named it after Grandad - but the 2001 reference wasn’t lost on me either.
HAL was the original badass computer for sure. Love that movie. So ahead of its time
David wilks- true inspiration! Does he have a new channel?
I watch all his old stuff. He was such a character and a wealth of knowledge on the subject.
@@halheavyduty he spoke of moving to thailand. I will hold out hope to see more of his work. I watched the closing shop/selling off episodes. His voice resonated emotion like no other. Was rather sad to say the least. Nothing but the best of wishes for him.
Only 3 inserts in 35 big parts like that is insane also the clean machines in the shop as a apprentice we clean them everyday I just love seeing a clean machine naming machines and tools makes work so much more enjoyable also how accurate do spade drills drill I heard that it’s almost like it’s reamned
They’re remarkably durable, even with pretty heavy cuts and shitty conditions.
Yeah, I love working in a clean organised shop. Takes a bit of work, but it’s definitely worth the effort.
Can’t handle filth. When I took over the shop we literally had to scrape it clean. Years of grime…
@@halheavyduty yea we clean our machines everyday in our apprentice machine shop I really don’t mind it worth it having a perfectly clean machine the next day you can start working emiditaly with
Couldn’t agree more. I just can’t work effectively on a filthy machine.
500mm chuck is pretty small, I used to run a 30x144 at my old place, 760mm that ;P
Nice! Yep, the HULK here runs an 800mm 4 Jaw… and the CNC megabore that we’re looking at will def make ol HAL look like a dwarf.
No I didnt skip forward.I watched the lot.
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Normally, a CNC video is about as exciting as an EV to me. Both are basica6 1st cousins to a battery forklift, no soul. But, credit to you mate, you make your videos interesting and fun to watch. BTW, east coast USA, mid-atlantic region. Often referred to as Graveyard of the Atlantic.
Cheers mate! Really appreciate the kind feedback. I love running the big CNC. It’s pretty low tech, so great to work on.
can you please tell me name of your cutting oil which one are you using
It’s a bit different to what most shops use, as we only really machine 4140 steel.
The product is called Holemaker by ITM. Works well for us, but not sure how it performs on other materials
Question, why aren't you just using an off the shelf anti vibration bars? They are better than solid bars in pretty much every way than a solid steel bar and if you use a quick change system like the KM heads then you can just mount up the bar in your solid mount holder and just swap out heads instead of change the whole bar for every tool. On my big lathe I use a 7xD 2.5" (63.5mm) bar from sandvik and I can run the machine out of power no problem with it and not have a bit of vibration. Also threading with a devibe bar is very nice.
That’s good to know! We haven’t run anti vibe bars yet, but I’m looking into them at the moment.
Open to all suggestions. Sounds like you’ve got experience with them.
Would also suggest the dampened bars from Sandvik, used them on some pretty awful 4340 steel hardened and they never batted an eyelid
All the big suppliers will have their own dampened range but after having a chance to look around at the market, sandvik offered more versatility on their hardware
Def going to check it out. Thanks again mate
Might want to run that title through QA again brother 😁. Just machinist things
Open to all suggestions
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Fark. Thanks bro 👊🤣
@@halheavyduty👊🏻. Years of running old school Fanuc controls has made me a pedant 😂
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When you say "it can do a lighter cut" (as just a watcher) does that mean that you can now put the round back in the round?
Talk - you can never talk too much. We/I want to know all the things that you think we should already know.
Thanks Matt I do look forward to your video.
Thanks mate!
Yeah, so by “lighter cut” I mean that the bar is rigid enough to take an extra pass before it starts cutting heavily.
The old Kong would bounce too much, but BattleKong can handle it.
It just means a first pass (light cut) takes off most of the oval shape before I plow in on the second pass
I watch this from work (cnc operator ) 😅
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You deferr to David Wills, quite right, but where is the DSG lathes??????
Unfortunately no DSG lathes… just our humble HULK & Colchester CNC’s
Could it be possible to build a tool stabilizer. That is similar to a follow rest. Only a stationary but to prevent tool movement just as it enters the work. Having a couple roller tipped dowels meeting the tool. Allowing the tool to still enter the work. Possibly a ring of 25mm thick steel, 25-50 mm wide. With 20-35mm dowels with rollers on the tip.meeting the tool at 22°-45° or 60°- 90° from each other. Depending on the deflection angle, possibly placed at 3-4 different angles . Just an idea it would need to be quickly deployed and removed.. to allow tool movement however it would likely only be used for long deep boring jobs. Maybe a more sophisticated stabilizer can be designed to be mounted with the tool post or attachment. And allow full tool motion possibly by disengaging the stabilizer automatically. Then the boring bars wouldn't need to be Soo large. 50-60mm x 300+ possibly. Just an idea. Have an awesome day .
I like your thinking, but the best solution is to build a direct toolpost that rises right off the cross slide.
It’ll remove all the vibration and be super rigid. We are doing a further upgrade in the very near future.
Should be a fun little build
the last cut was sounded just the way it should
personally im a bigger fan of the wnmg insert's since they are just as strong but have 6 cutting edges instead of 4
I’m a huge fan of WNMG inserts, and we do about 85% of all work with them.
I just prefer the CNMG for heaving boring… mostly because of how well they handle nasty conditions and seem to keep cutting even when damaged.
@@halheavyduty good to know and also fair if thats what you prefer. personally when its a laser/flame cut hole i have to bore out i prefer useing a hss insert instead of a carbide since the hss is more flexible/less brittle so can better take the beating/hammering it would get untill clean/uninterrupted cuts
do wounder how well kennametals fix8 would do ( since they are 8 cornered beats. 12mm doc in radius /24mm in diameter with 0.6mm pr. revolution and sfm 195 plus easy ) so some real beast's
I’ve heard a lot of mixed reviews (though mostly good) about the fix8
If we were doing more shafts etc I’d def invest in it. Some insane DOC on those inserts
@@halheavyduty sounds fair. i bet that if you change its geometry just right by angeling it right it could also work if ID work. but then agen it might a bit to much to ask from a boring bar to take that amough of force where it dont have wear pads to stabelice itself agenst the walls of the part
i imean. imagine the for of 12mm doc radual 195sfm ( in metric ) with 0.6mm pr. rotation and then ask a bar at like 450-500 mm stickout. if you stick with the normal3 times dia rule of thumb it would have to be around 166-167mm in diameter to be happy
would like to see you make a solid tingsten carbide / tungsten carbide reinforced boring bar to be honest. i bet it would a good tool to have for your machine's. just like a internal burnishing tool ( it would give you a even better surface finish and also a harder surface on top of that ) i can draw one up for you if you like
No mills?
We’ve got two mills. They’re featured in the original shop tour, but they were absolutely filthy when I filmed the quick tour.
A little Bridgeport & a big solid bed mill we affectionately call Godzilla
Hello again, do you have a merchandise shop? ie, clothing, tees beanies etc?
It’s coming. Going to be working on it over the Christmas break and launching it early next year
@halheavyduty Tidy fella! I'm a beanie hat guy.
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Can I ask for you guys to do a video about your mill “Godzilla” that you mentioned in this video
Definitely the focus of an upcoming video where we are milling out the auger drive sub.
Will give a full run down on the machine in that one.
Name that trepanning bit John Holmes aka Johnny Wadd
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I almost named the beast “Ron Jeremy”
@@halheavyduty same thing lol
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I worked at company with huge machine shop and giant equipment. I hated the grit/grime/dirt environment.
I hear you re the grit / grime. I had to clean about a decade of filth and clutter when I took over the shop, and it was bloody disgusting. Intolerably so.
We do our very best to keep everything organised and clean as possible. I just can't work well in a gross workplace.
Hmm? - please allow me to ask something - is HAL an abreviation of odysse in space? here HAL is similiar to IBM H(I) A (B )L (M 😂)
It was named after Grandad (HAL) but I also liked the dual reference to 2001
HAL9000 was the OG of badass computers. Such a good movie villain
The Hulk
Heman
Brave Star
Dino riders
Bucky OHare
Samorai Pizza Cats
King Arthur and the Knights pf Justice.
Dude that era of shows defined me as a small boy.
Same.
How bloody good were Dino Riders & He Man. The original Transformers…
Man. We had the best stuff as kids.
10000!! 👏 💪 🧉
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The action started at 17:45. By then, I had fallen asleep. Please start the action around 1:00 in the next video.
They usually do brother. Just an extended video to celebrate 10k subs and give a little more to the backstory.
Apologies for the coma
Nice hogging
Cheers mate
Please shave off that beard. It will help people to take you seriously.
Haha. Without a beard I look like a big thumb. 👍
All CNC bs.....conversational is supreme
We mix it up with both, depending on the job. Once offs / repairs are done conventionally, but repeat jobs get thrown into the CNC.