29:10 ayyyy thanks for the shoutout :) with that team, you could even bring Colleen and delphoi to the FL for better reliability. As rightly pointed out, they just need more stats overall for survivability. Have a 2nd team too but that’s really just random stuff :) N.B didn’t max the slot 6 on Colleen coz it wasn’t exactly the rune I wanted on her, but for the lack of slot 6 hp%, it’s still usable and she’s pretty close to 25k hp :)
This was just the video I needed coming back to the game after a long break, I built most of these units right before I quit but had forgotten the reasonings behind them :D Thank you Bagel
I love his usual play throughs from the start but it’s always tricky because he gets pulls I don’t or manages to make teams I just don’t have built yet. Like missing fusion monsters not built lol These videos make it very clear cut what I need to build
This is the best! Really help me refocus when I was floundering without direction. I’ve got aims now. Please help with PC10, ToA Hard next! You’re our leader! Love you!
Lisa doesn't add enough to be worth bring as a second cleanse, let your panda do the job and use an extra damage dealer. Mihyang is the only unit I can think of that does enough damage to bring in as a secondary cleanse. Triple rev Colleen on speed def def should be able to fl with your Panda then toss 4 dd in the back line. If you've got runes, 4dd r5 is done in 40 seconds. If you dont have runes you dont really need to be in r5 ;)
If you want to optimise your rune farming, wouldnt it be helpful to max out on the rune crafting essences and therefor wont be able to drop them in dungeons Jewbagel. This would mean in theory you could only obtain Runes or Rainbowmons which would make an significant increase in mana and rune value.
Been sorely in need of this kind of video. ever since clearing all b12's and getting A+ or better on rift beasts i was hoping to see something other than BJ5 teams cuz i don't have the runes or towers to really get the stats on need for that specific team
i was wondering sommething, in most cases immunity is not all that great in r5 cause the boss strips into a stun. and then i had to remember which unit in the game does this too: Giana and what counters giana in rta: Haegang. would Haegangs s3passiv work in that case? i mean it should in theory and if you play with immunity instead of cleanses he should be able to avoid the oblivion. this would protect your dd´s from the barrage of debuffs the boss has to offer and if he dares to strip your immunity or any other buff for that matter Haegang should cleanse the stun right of and give a little atb on top. (this could also work while the boss changes phases cause he cleanses himself of all debuffs which triggers his passiv too) if you and your companions use heavy water dmg dealer his lead might worth considering too (water twins or kfg)
Hey Bagel, I love you and everything but I havent played summoners war since 2017 and I started an account about 3 months ago. Within the first 70 days I was able to fuse and build Bjr5 with not much more than minimal playing everyday. I'm not sure how you could consider anything but that META.
Anavel does have a cleanse and defense break, but she has HORRIBLE AI and will not cleanse when she should, and will instead skill 1 or defense break. Mine is tough enough for the front row, but I almost never use her unless I can manual with her. It really is that bad.
I was wondering if the "team buff" ones affected everyone or just your team. I'm guessing just your team, like a party buff would, but just curious if anyone tested it with a spare team
@@joshuaryder4680 The Runes like "fight" and such. I know that the passive effects from Dias is your team only, even when doing additional placement, its only the team they are in, but just curious if it works like the leader skills, raid wide, or like the passives that are group wide
where was this a month ago when i was struggling w r5? since then i realized xiong fei, lisa, kro, raoq, and icaru with enough defense to team up w 3 others and any other cleanser/healer is great for a beginner team. there's constant team ups for damage and cool down reduction and it has all the necessary debuffs the team almost never loses unless the other players die. plus if u have icaru on full determination set to get the defense requirement it acts as a pseudo darion that can't be oblivioned
i havent watched the video yet but thank you for this video i have been struggling on who is the best to bring into Raids and stuff. i cant do R5 yet because my team dies there so R4 is my best at the moment Edit : i'm gonna first focus on building that first team while farming runes and artifacts to put very good runes on them
Just a slight addendum to this video: Occult girls aren't good main cleansers for r5. For some reason they have horrible Ai in raids and prioritize s3 over their cleanse, even when you really need the cleanse. . They make good secondary cleansers, though.
I am guilty of not having maxed runes 😅 but at least I get them to 12 lol also haven't even tried r4 yet so doesn't count. It's just so hard to max when it takes +2 mil Mana to go from 12 to 15 and only have less than 10mil Mana total 😒
@@wow1440 By the time all those pieces show up you could have easy 2A'd like 6+ Kro's. It's not a good unit to have in f2p or beginner guides since it literally takes months or even a year to get all the pieces.
I’ve been struggling making mine and my gf’s R5 team, been waiting for this one
29:10 ayyyy thanks for the shoutout :) with that team, you could even bring Colleen and delphoi to the FL for better reliability. As rightly pointed out, they just need more stats overall for survivability. Have a 2nd team too but that’s really just random stuff :)
N.B didn’t max the slot 6 on Colleen coz it wasn’t exactly the rune I wanted on her, but for the lack of slot 6 hp%, it’s still usable and she’s pretty close to 25k hp :)
What’s your rune farm ?
This was just the video I needed coming back to the game after a long break, I built most of these units right before I quit but had forgotten the reasonings behind them :D Thank you Bagel
The biggest issue for me is people not joining the raid and getting kicked
Pro tip : watch movies on flixzone. I've been using it for watching lots of of movies recently.
@Erik Zahir Definitely, I have been watching on flixzone for since december myself =)
@Erik Zahir yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for months myself =)
Lol you done man, that’s pretty elaborate just to make us use Flixzone
been waiting on this bad boy for almost 2 weeks...not because i need help with r5 but because i like the meta team videos. keep up the work bagel :)
I love this series. Not sure why, it’s just really cool to me
I love his usual play throughs from the start but it’s always tricky because he gets pulls I don’t or manages to make teams I just don’t have built yet. Like missing fusion monsters not built lol
These videos make it very clear cut what I need to build
Bagel yesssss ive been waiting for this one tysm, btw nose looks wonderful *chefs kiss*
Literally watching the latest video & the next one is up, the frequency is unmatched lol
50 minutes of listening to bagel on the background....so good
This is the best! Really help me refocus when I was floundering without direction. I’ve got aims now. Please help with PC10, ToA Hard next! You’re our leader! Love you!
MY FAVORITE
Legend just what i needed before next FRR
Looking much better man! hoping for a great recovery!
I've been waiting for this video
thx for making the vid more beginner friendly!
Lisa doesn't add enough to be worth bring as a second cleanse, let your panda do the job and use an extra damage dealer. Mihyang is the only unit I can think of that does enough damage to bring in as a secondary cleanse. Triple rev Colleen on speed def def should be able to fl with your Panda then toss 4 dd in the back line. If you've got runes, 4dd r5 is done in 40 seconds. If you dont have runes you dont really need to be in r5 ;)
i miss the days when bagel used to be in our guild Cum2us. He was still LilSnoopy and logs in once in a while
So, now that we can have 3 teams and go solo... What would be your third team?
Geebus this is a super helpful video.
Hey bagel, hope you’re recovering well!
Will we see this series again ? for Punisher's, Steel, arena, guild, lab, etc?
Was waiting on this 😬
If you want to optimise your rune farming, wouldnt it be helpful to max out on the rune crafting essences and therefor wont be able to drop them in dungeons Jewbagel. This would mean in theory you could only obtain Runes or Rainbowmons which would make an significant increase in mana and rune value.
If that's how it works, that's a great idea.
@@richkamminga4283 idk about it but i would love to know if it works
ok i have a question beings as each team can not have the same leader skill does that mean each leader skill applies to all teams?
Been sorely in need of this kind of video. ever since clearing all b12's and getting A+ or better on rift beasts i was hoping to see something other than BJ5 teams cuz i don't have the runes or towers to really get the stats on need for that specific team
i was wondering sommething, in most cases immunity is not all that great in r5 cause the boss strips into a stun.
and then i had to remember which unit in the game does this too: Giana and what counters giana in rta: Haegang.
would Haegangs s3passiv work in that case? i mean it should in theory and if you play with immunity instead of cleanses he should be able to avoid the oblivion.
this would protect your dd´s from the barrage of debuffs the boss has to offer and if he dares to strip your immunity or any other buff for that matter Haegang should cleanse the stun right of and give a little atb on top. (this could also work while the boss changes phases cause he cleanses himself of all debuffs which triggers his passiv too)
if you and your companions use heavy water dmg dealer his lead might worth considering too (water twins or kfg)
Hey, Jewbal....it's Meek-Devin....I was raiding with you not too long ago..
can i put a Kumar in the second team as a cleanser? and frontline
i need to see good rta teams with a wide variety of mons and unit cohesion stuff.
listening to bagel-podcast and watching my beastriders with their newly acquired wings. life is good :D
Hey Bagel, I love you and everything but I havent played summoners war since 2017 and I started an account about 3 months ago. Within the first 70 days I was able to fuse and build Bjr5 with not much more than minimal playing everyday. I'm not sure how you could consider anything but that META.
I love the Chika profile pic ngl
I thought no one would notice.
What can I use instead of the water kung-fu girl in the raid teams? I have your middle team: Lisa, Xiong Fei, Darion, Colleen, and Hwa.
Great review, thanks!
When you say max runes, do you mean like, max out all 6 runes? Or is it okay if 2/4/6 are +15 and 1/3/5 are +12?
Cheers, Bagel!
Need to do Rift Beasts Meta Teams episode
bagel can u make a video about Nigong please...
Thank you for this one.
Thank you for not concentrating on rj5. I mean, if your new to raiding how are you supposed to have the kind of runes you need?
Thabk you very much helped me alot!
Is it still worth building Darion?
question, do ken and shadow claw count as the same monster? could you just run both as a back line dps?
Functionally identical except for appearance and animations
They count as the same mon
I directly jumped from bj4 to bj5,. 100 days acc. I farmed necro b10 for some rage runes, and got 2 from the event, as well some gems and stones.
That Chika DP tho
can i switch hwa for mei how wang?
I just built the BJ5 team this week and have been doing nothing but running that so seeing a normal beginner team now just feels weird xD
Oo! Your face is looking much better !!
Pls continue this series
lulu is good too
Pls make a up to date bj r5 team
I love these types of videos. Thank you!
Anavel does have a cleanse and defense break, but she has HORRIBLE AI and will not cleanse when she should, and will instead skill 1 or defense break. Mine is tough enough for the front row, but I almost never use her unless I can manual with her. It really is that bad.
I was wondering if the "team buff" ones affected everyone or just your team. I'm guessing just your team, like a party buff would, but just curious if anyone tested it with a spare team
You mean the leader skills or do you mean like the darion/Dias passives?
@@joshuaryder4680 The Runes like "fight" and such. I know that the passive effects from Dias is your team only, even when doing additional placement, its only the team they are in, but just curious if it works like the leader skills, raid wide, or like the passives that are group wide
why not use lulu and friends instead of konomia
Bagel...I really wish you would write some of this out so that us noobs can follow a bit easier than videos. Thank you!
where was this a month ago when i was struggling w r5? since then i realized xiong fei, lisa, kro, raoq, and icaru with enough defense to team up w 3 others and any other cleanser/healer is great for a beginner team. there's constant team ups for damage and cool down reduction and it has all the necessary debuffs the team almost never loses unless the other players die. plus if u have icaru on full determination set to get the defense requirement it acts as a pseudo darion that can't be oblivioned
i know im one year late but do you have any recomendations for replacements for lisa?
@@luclon-vu7og light homu could also work
where's the BJR5 guide???
i havent watched the video yet but thank you for this video i have been struggling on who is the best to bring into Raids and stuff. i cant do R5 yet because my team dies there so R4 is my best at the moment
Edit : i'm gonna first focus on building that first team while farming runes and artifacts to put very good runes on them
short for damage dealer is DD
Just a slight addendum to this video: Occult girls aren't good main cleansers for r5. For some reason they have horrible Ai in raids and prioritize s3 over their cleanse, even when you really need the cleanse. . They make good secondary cleansers, though.
I've always thought that when bagel said DPS he meant "Damage per Shot"
DPS is a standard gaming term for damage per second.
With FRR coming up. It's better to build a 2nd team for those who dont have BJR5 Team, Without BJR5 is like autokick T_T
Oh boy a short video
what does meta means?
i did not know slot 1 couldnt roll def, i thought i was just unlucky
Jewelbagel during the Fusion events of ken and others we got 5 free skill ups u mightve put those on ken.
Finallllyyyyyy!!!!! Wait. No bjr5? Man.
Need this info
I never made a normal raid team, straight into BJ5
How do you change the homunculus to different elements
in the craft building
Waiting on them rift beast meta teams ;p
I am guilty of not having maxed runes 😅 but at least I get them to 12 lol also haven't even tried r4 yet so doesn't count. It's just so hard to max when it takes +2 mil Mana to go from 12 to 15 and only have less than 10mil Mana total 😒
ah nice the face is back, wb
why would u recommend anything but bj5 to people bagel? anyone can build it pretty easily now with artifacts.
no hwa runes sad
35 minutes to get to the part of the video we came to see
I run kunite in my team since the beggining
I'm only pointing this out because he said it multiple times. It's not a feng yan lol.
I wonder if my account from 2014 still exists ... don't remember the name or email
i think the wind vagabond is better check this
Dps could mean damage per sequence 🤷🏽♂️ (turn sequence)
DPS is a standard gaming term for damage per second.
"You shouldn't put legendary grinds on garbage runes"
Wow, feeling kinda attacked right now. lol
No Katy Perry dark horse music ?
Flashback to 2015/16 with the first team
Pie 🙂
lies, he was drunk when he runed that skogul
15% with max towers
This Skogul is not that badly---"
mhm bagel not badly what hmmmmm?
Balegyr works on fatal just fine. No need for rage runes.
Every now and than you sound like charlie, aka moistcritical, aka penguinz
For the algorithm...
So use woosa in R5 got it
Get rid of water kung fu in the standard team, she isn't even farmable. Replace her with 2A Kro.
Not farmbable but it is f2p since the pieces can be obtained from guild magic shop
@@wow1440 By the time all those pieces show up you could have easy 2A'd like 6+ Kro's. It's not a good unit to have in f2p or beginner guides since it literally takes months or even a year to get all the pieces.
Woosa , Xiong Fei front line Hwahee backline
Woosa in r5 is insta kick
Woosa got Immunity and bubble
@@ghostriderblaze17 but doesn't cleanse or debuff or deal damage
3rd
Bad Colleen :( fail should be Swift, u have to tell men to r unr Swift not all these broken sets., Dias should be on all fight runes
i really wouldnt recommend lisa that much...
The other 2 neostone agents are so good and deserve the skillups alot more.
Rift raid needs a modification. They should be 10 monsters minimum . With high rune requirements , 6 star only
too much bla bla....