In July 2002 Riddlesden residents called in the ombudsman because Skipton Properties had decided that two storey houses would be better replaced by three storey houses. In 2003 Skipton Properties admitted building three storey houses where they only had permission for two storey, but claimed it was a mistake. They applied for retrospective planning consent, and got it. Brian Verity claimed that it only matched what he'd done at Cowling.
I can confirm as a volounteer on the Worth Valley Railway Near By That The Mill Is To Be Demolished and houses or flats are proposed to be built on the site. It appears from talk on the railway that everyone believes it was arson but we shall wait to see. According to others the fire started on the floor where oil canisters were.
My great Grandfather John Albert Murgatroyd Was the chief engineer and designer of this and its sister mill which was in Sykes lane half a mill away. Sykes mill was destroyed by fire in the 1960's Sad very Sad
On the W. Brigg site at Cowling they built three storey houses where they didn't have permission to even build! The plans at the council were still under discussion, and of course were for two storey houses. In addition to these, there is poisoning of water courses (Fined £20,000 with £1,500 costs) and Verity's own opinion of councillors. "Councillors" he says, "should not be involved with planning, they can't even read plans." .
@Fireyorks theres an abandoned one in halifax, empty, but in good condition, no windows, parts of the roof missing, have a look it's on the main road going into the town near the tip , just in the bottom of the valley and there's grove mills, the ones in ingrow on ingrow lane, currently demolished but one is still up and used for appartments
Another Mill lost!!! There is only one left in Haworth now. I can remember working at Ebor mills, what a sad day to see such a great building raised to the ground. Skipton properties owned it???? Hmmmmm
@th3soundguy Skipton Properties It's but a few years since CDC had a brush with the famous Skipton Properties, indeed Skipton Properties have had a few acts brought to public notice. Here are some of them: Having originally applied for two storey houses in Long Lee they built three storey houses, in breach of planning. In 2002 officers pursued a breach of planning against Skipton Properties for work in Kildwick, along with illegal work in demolition and raising land.
@philldavison Cheers Phil, there is a lot of local affection for the old place. its a testament to that interest that this footage is the 27th most discussed video in the news and politics section on you tube today.
Keighley News Website. 11:14am Sunday 15th August 2010 Fire ravaged a Haworth mill last night leaving most of the building gutted. The top three floors of Ebor Mill, in Mytholmes, were destroyed during the blaze. The fire raged for more than four hours at the mill, home to long-established company Airedale Springs.
Well done for capturing the different phases of this fire. It is such a shame, all the old mill buildings are disappearing. Really excellent footage though. I don't think the outcome reflects the efforts of all the firefighters who were trying their best to save the building.
Was spending the weekend in lovely Haworth and saw from digs window -it was very scary. Not knowing the area I was interested to hear comments about the mill owners. Very strange! The firemen deserve a pat on the back. Saw them this morning when leaving to come home - they looked exhausted. Good filming. What a shame you have lost a lovely building.
@verticallimit12 Fair play the fire service had one hell of a job trying to contain this. Once it took hold of the fourth floor there was no going back though. Within half an hour the roof collapsed and the old mills fate was sealed.
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@samsonsmummy Apparently its to be demolished this week, can anyone confirm? I saw the firemen this morning looking justifiably tired out, they were enjoying a short spell on the grass whilst the sun was shining for a few minutes.
@stealthpicasso they are indeed beginning demolition. As I type I can hear the beep-beep of wagons reversing etc. it's so, so, sad. Apparently just the top three floors, but that is yet to be seen.
What a crying shame - you can see why they started building them fireproof with stone floors and cast iron supports. To see how quickly this went up in 2010 with a modern fire service on hand makes you shudder to think what it was like 150 years ago.
thats quite sad i live up the road and i could see it at ma mates near oakworth school we where all wondering what was on fire we thaugt it was my other mates house
@stealthpiccasso Yep they did a fantastic job and still are from what I can see from my living room. I live just at the top of the Mytholmes end of Ebor.
bloody hell.. ppl on facebook were like ''loads fire engines have gone up to haworth''... and now i see why O.o is it completely dimolished now then? i always walk past that mill towards my mate's house...
@th3soundguy On planning he has this to say: "The law does not stop you from building without planning permission, you merely do it at your own risk. Perhaps it's the law which is wrong, the system needs to be more accommodating." "The system doesn't allow for change, so you try and short circuit the system."
@th3soundguy And what does he say about Cowling,and the three storey houses? We only changed the height of a few, and (don't laugh here any builders who read this) it was because the ground was bad!" Because of the increased costs of building extra houses at Cowling, Skipton Properties declined to build any affordable houses, houses which they had agreed to build in the planning application, and instead gave £15,000 for a skateboard park.
@Justjayne01 Yes you are right they did indeed but they are young and its to be expected I guess and people always have throughout history enjoyed a good hanging. Its a terrible shame, another testament to our rich industrial past lying in ashes.
@traceymadhouse no one said skipton properties owned it .... they said he applyed for planning on it 3 mills 3 fires .... more than unlucky and most woud agree
@traceymadhouse Im afraid its a little late for that ... they do own it and have done for a while they submitted plans in 2008 for turning it in to residental flats ... but due to its grade 2 listing and still been in industrrial use they were declined ...... now its burnt out problem solved for skipton props .... just like bridge house mill and oakworth mills ..... big mill + fire = skipton props .... 3rd time a large mill he owns gets declind planning 3rd time it burns
@1212chip Yeah i sat watching it all night ... was more about containment than putting it out . Oil and wooden floors mean there impossable to fight . Im sure the fire men did the best they could but from where i was sat they were only cooling the side near housing and letting the rest burn ..
@th3soundguy Thanks for that info, I only learnt that they owned it when I went and had a look at the devistation earlier today. Lets hope they dont demolish it. Lets hope the truth on how this Fire happened will be solved.
Mad Jester yh man, was referring to manningham mills! well haworth isnt a posh area either m8. they might have bronte parsonage but down the road is an estate
In July 2002 Riddlesden residents called in the ombudsman because Skipton Properties had decided that two storey houses would be better replaced by three storey houses.
In 2003 Skipton Properties admitted building three storey houses where they only had permission for two storey, but claimed it was a mistake. They applied for retrospective planning consent, and got it. Brian Verity claimed that it only matched what he'd done at Cowling.
I can confirm as a volounteer on the Worth Valley Railway Near By That The Mill Is To Be Demolished and houses or flats are proposed to be built on the site. It appears from talk on the railway that everyone believes it was arson but we shall wait to see. According to others the fire started on the floor where oil canisters were.
My great Grandfather John Albert Murgatroyd Was the chief engineer and designer of this and its sister mill which was in Sykes lane half a mill away.
Sykes mill was destroyed by fire in the 1960's
Sad very Sad
On the W. Brigg site at Cowling they built three storey houses where they didn't have permission to even build! The plans at the council were still under discussion, and of course were for two storey houses.
In addition to these, there is poisoning of water courses (Fined £20,000 with £1,500 costs) and Verity's own opinion of councillors.
"Councillors" he says, "should not be involved with planning, they can't even read plans."
.
@Fireyorks theres an abandoned one in halifax, empty, but in good condition, no windows, parts of the roof missing, have a look it's on the main road going into the town near the tip , just in the bottom of the valley and there's grove mills, the ones in ingrow on ingrow lane, currently demolished but one is still up and used for appartments
Another Mill lost!!! There is only one left in Haworth now. I can remember working at Ebor mills, what a sad day to see such a great building raised to the ground. Skipton properties owned it???? Hmmmmm
Brilliant footage of this sad event. Thanks for posting the last moments of this fine site!
@th3soundguy
Skipton Properties
It's but a few years since CDC had a brush with the famous Skipton Properties, indeed Skipton Properties have had a few acts brought to public notice. Here are some of them:
Having originally applied for two storey houses in Long Lee they built three storey houses, in breach of planning.
In 2002 officers pursued a breach of planning against Skipton Properties for work in Kildwick, along with illegal work in demolition and raising land.
@philldavison Cheers Phil, there is a lot of local affection for the old place. its a testament to that interest that this footage is the 27th most discussed video in the news and politics section on you tube today.
Keighley News Website.
11:14am Sunday 15th August 2010
Fire ravaged a Haworth mill last night leaving most of the building gutted.
The top three floors of Ebor Mill, in Mytholmes, were destroyed during the blaze.
The fire raged for more than four hours at the mill, home to long-established company Airedale Springs.
Well done for capturing the different phases of this fire. It is such a shame, all the old mill buildings are disappearing.
Really excellent footage though.
I don't think the outcome reflects the efforts of all the firefighters who were trying their best to save the building.
this is so sad. We live in Oakworth can could hear all the sirens. I hope it is restored and brought back to its former glory.
Great video,
Best Regards out of the Netherlands.
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Devastating footage, Mark sad end to another piece of History
Was spending the weekend in lovely Haworth and saw from digs window -it was very scary. Not knowing the area I was interested to hear comments about the mill owners. Very strange! The firemen deserve a pat on the back. Saw them this morning when leaving to come home - they looked exhausted. Good filming. What a shame you have lost a lovely building.
@verticallimit12
Fair play the fire service had one hell of a job trying to contain this. Once it took hold of the fourth floor there was no going back though. Within half an hour the roof collapsed and the old mills fate was sealed.
Out of the ashes, New build properties were completed by Skipton Properties, we moved in November 21.
This video of the old mill is right up there with Obama today for being the most discussed.
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Airdale Springs get a nice new industreal unit and Skipton propertys get the land this mill was on .
all very convenient dont you think .
@samsonsmummy Apparently its to be demolished this week, can anyone confirm?
I saw the firemen this morning looking justifiably tired out, they were enjoying a short spell on the grass whilst the sun was shining for a few minutes.
@stealthpicasso they are indeed beginning demolition. As I type I can hear the beep-beep of wagons reversing etc. it's so, so, sad. Apparently just the top three floors, but that is yet to be seen.
What a crying shame - you can see why they started building them fireproof with stone floors and cast iron supports. To see how quickly this went up in 2010 with a modern fire service on hand makes you shudder to think what it was like 150 years ago.
thats quite sad i live up the road and i could see it at ma mates near oakworth school we where all wondering what was on fire we thaugt it was my other mates house
Great video, another great mill bites the dust :(
@stealthpiccasso Yep they did a fantastic job and still are from what I can see from my living room. I live just at the top of the Mytholmes end of Ebor.
yeah it has been demolished now, went to watch it coz i live near by
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it is sad for Haworth to lose another old building, here when the Bronte's were alive, now gone just like them :/
bloody hell.. ppl on facebook were like ''loads fire engines have gone up to haworth''... and now i see why O.o is it completely dimolished now then? i always walk past that mill towards my mate's house...
@Babydeltic003 Why thank you Mr Deltic..
those old mills had floors soaked in oil and no way to stop them once they start burning.
Such a shame, yet another beautiful, historical building gone!
@th3soundguy
On planning he has this to say:
"The law does not stop you from building without planning permission, you merely do it at your own risk. Perhaps it's the law which is wrong, the system needs to be more accommodating."
"The system doesn't allow for change, so you try and short circuit the system."
@th3soundguy
And what does he say about Cowling,and the three storey houses?
We only changed the height of a few, and (don't laugh here any builders who read this) it was because the ground was bad!"
Because of the increased costs of building extra houses at Cowling, Skipton Properties declined to build any affordable houses, houses which they had agreed to build in the planning application, and instead gave £15,000 for a skateboard park.
@Justjayne01 Yes you are right they did indeed but they are young and its to be expected I guess and people always have throughout history enjoyed a good hanging. Its a terrible shame, another testament to our rich industrial past lying in ashes.
Bloody hell another relic gone. What is it with fires this year
thankyou for this video, it's very good and good for evidence of what caused this, very sad. thumbs up if your from west yorkshire (y)
@traceymadhouse no one said skipton properties owned it .... they said he applyed for planning on it
3 mills 3 fires .... more than unlucky and most woud agree
God how awfull!! It looks totally gutted! :-( Does anyone know how it started?
add another to the list in Thornton Tonight lol
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@traceymadhouse Im afraid its a little late for that ... they do own it and have done for a while they submitted plans in 2008 for turning it in to residental flats ... but due to its grade 2 listing and still been in industrrial use they were declined ...... now its burnt out problem solved for skipton props .... just like bridge house mill and oakworth mills ..... big mill + fire = skipton props .... 3rd time a large mill he owns gets declind planning 3rd time it burns
@1212chip Yeah i sat watching it all night ... was more about containment than putting it out . Oil and wooden floors mean there impossable to fight .
Im sure the fire men did the best they could but from where i was sat they were only cooling the side near housing and letting the rest burn ..
Holy crap!! that thing went up did'nt it. Such a shame =(
@th3soundguy Thanks for that info, I only learnt that they owned it when I went and had a look at the devistation earlier today. Lets hope they dont demolish it. Lets hope the truth on how this Fire happened will be solved.
Woop I live near Haworth and I was at ebor mill the day after the fire an "it dead"
Well done to the fire service .
Yup...Its burning alright....Pub anyone?
sad to see indeed
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Another slice of history apparently deliberately destroyed for development
What a shame.
I can't believe I actually heard people (kids?) cheer when the fourth floor fell in! No sense of history at all.
@stealthpiccasso according to my boss there doing it now.
when it is a black area they let the shops burn too!
+Mahfuz Munir Khan PT This aint a deprived area Mahfuz, Bronte Sisters village
Mad Jester yh man, was referring to manningham mills! well haworth isnt a posh area either m8. they might have bronte parsonage but down the road is an estate
+Mahfuz Munir Khan PT I'm from BD6 Woodside area, Haworth & Baildon and part of Thornton were posh..lol...used to live in Manningham years ago
Mad Jester where that mill is it aint posh mate, looks like shite! lol
@philldavison Th
This is tradgic and very sad to watch
such a shame ;(
Devastating footage, Mark sad end to another piece of History