People of the Republic of Art! Thank you so much for all the support and especially the thought provoking comments. I genuinely enjoyed reading so many of these and reading about your perspectives, especially when they may differ from my own. This channel is not about me; it's about art and the many perspectives, philosophies, and opinions we all have about art. I hope in the future to work with other creatives and working artists to have their perspectives featured on the channel as well. When I posted this video some 10 days ago I had 200 incredibly supportive subscribers who took a chance on a tiny unknown channel; I want to thank you all for that support. It's incredible to see how this video and channel have taken off as of recent. I previously made it a point to respond to every single comment on my channel, but right now that seems like a daunting task. I am going to do my best there, so please bear with me. I'm working on a few new projects that I hope to get out in the coming weeks so stay tuned for that! Lastly, I'll say that some of the most thought provoking comments I saw were regarding Chapter 4. When I wrote that chapter my intention was to dissect what I see as a cultural shift in how art is appreciated and what role it plays in our lives. I hope that came full circle in chapter 5, but I think there may be a whole video on that topic in the future. There's always nuance and it's great to hear your positive experiences with people who love art for art's sake... l'art pour l'art! Fair to say I was too hard on the general consumer of art, but it's only because I want to challenge us to see things in a new light. We do not have to stand idly by and watch those full of greed and self-interest take all the oxygen out of the room when it comes to art. Let's take it back!
It's happening like that all over now. The ultimate emptiness of such types is being reflected, just as it always was going to be. Only truth (s) remain, first basic law.
I don't think you were 'too hard on the general consumer of art' in this video. The ones you were justifiably hard on (in my opinion) are the *most* *visible* consumers of art today -- who may be roughly the same as today's 'general' art consumer, but not necessarily so.
...what a terrible video. An almost 3 minute "introduction" with a bunch of stupid music...and camera angles that someone thinks are cool. Eliminate all that crap and simply tell the story...perhaps then I could learn something without having to tolerate 3rd rate graphics and more stupid music.
Sry but I just have to correct you art as allways been involved with money even before the medici's all the great classics were thanks to great artist being comissioned by the church or some rich patrons so even thought it may seem like a new thing for us it as always been that way and the freedom of the artist as always been in the hands of those who comissioned so I do apreciate what you are saying but in the world we live in we would need a "great" shift in how art is looked at because its been in this situation for ages, not saying that independent artist haven't existed alongside this whole time but that never made so they were able to maintain a stable living but yeah good video nontheless!
Having a home filled with original unknown artists is more interesting than a home full of prints from popular artists. Visitors always find it more interesting and so do I. I agree with your last segment.
A good quality custom framed print is also just as expensive as buying and original from an unknown artist in many cases. I'd rather spend money on the original.
Having a home filled with my own original art is more interesting than a home full of Prince, a popular artist. Visitors always find it more interesting. And so do I. Though he did make good music.
I think AI stands a very good chance at killing art. All these image generators pumping content out en masse will only start drowning out real artists more and more
I’m Chinese. An art teacher. And that painter who hasn’t been able to make it a main career. From a relatively wealthy family. Who had the privilege of studying art at the best art school in the world. And this video hit home to that lost and confusion I’ve felt about becoming an artist since studying art. I learned about the most amazing truths and beauty and value about art in school, yet when I graduated I was left knowing those who don’t understand that value are the ones giving art value. And those people are my family and members of their social circle who love me, but most of whom only care about investment and see my value in studying art as a way to pretty up one’s, esp a young woman’s, cultural resume. It’s a confusing time to be an artist, esp a Chinese one. Seeing the country’s rapid economic growth and globalization in the past decade, as a teacher I’ve been blessed to see parents being supportive of artistic careers on a much larger scale than generations before. But more design and still not fine art. the majority of the population still don’t understand art well, actually it’s more they don’t understand why it exists. So the price tag placed on them becomes it’s definition and value. Culture takes longer to catch up than economy. I rly don’t mean it to sound demeaning but I think that kind of it is the root of the problem here. it’s not the people fault it kind of just is a product of the country’s pace. That’s why I rly believe in democratizing art education. It’s only with understanding the beauty in not art, but appreciating art, that people will have the autonomy to make their own rules instead of following “logical” investment.
thanks for sharing your illuminating comment. in so far as value and art are concerned, with regards to preserving and propagating Chinese culture in what ways do you see that happening today? and how does the monetary aspect provably negatively affect that? is there an evident distinction or value mismatch that the cultural (present and probable future) value of the art/artist has to its price? if so is it possible that your perspective is just different from theirs, and that if one word to zoom out and objectively map or compare past and present value one might see that the opinions of those who chose to purchase and be custodians in the past have turned out to be right because in a Darwinian way some which had enduring ideas survived, while the rest went extinct. don’t you think that is something to be said for valuations from art buyers who often have an art history background so are able to embed the historical cultural approximations into the price signal - whose expertise is then trusted by those lacking it but are in the position to then follow “logical” investment. money and taste or cultural awareness are seldom in a singular individual. and lastly, is there a chance that it’s a problem of conflating art with just existing in one medium (classical or ornate archaic tools) in this case painting / sculpture.
The notion that culture follows economy is a Marxist train of thinking. It is however true to an extent I think with China. I’ve lived there for four years, did an exhibition there too and worked in art education. Unfortunately, I don’t have much hope for art in China. I actually think democratising it in education is not only a huge challenge but actually is counterproductive. It should be for a specialist and dedicated elite. To democratise it in education will only be to serve government ideology because any democratic process is with Chinese characteristics. Which therefore means a boundary. The boundary is no criticism of power. The autonomy should come from expression, but this is impossible without political change. The best outcome may be to encourage craft skills, and artist networks. Art appreciation in China is largely in two camps it seems; the educated ‘bourgeois’, usually young artists that studied abroad, and the traditional Chinese paintings, or traditionally influenced Chinese art with some contemporary aspects. The bridge between these two is vast and really it may be best to form a new camp entirely.
@@smileyp4535 mind you that’s not without a consensus! furthermore why is it only robbed of value? why isn’t this actually earning it its value in a darwinian sense and subsequently being a custodian of it? 🤔
Professional artist here… The struggle is freaking real. Dedicated my whole life to painting/drawing/printmaking, went to University and participated in a few exhibitions… Having that said every two or three months I find myself in crippling financial anxiety crisis cause I can‘t seem to earn enough to support my living (and continue producing new pieces). Way too often it was a choice of re-stocking my supplies or paying rent. Which by the way almost made me homeless this year. I am deeply connected with my work and it simply hurts me immensely that it can‘t make it this world… Makes me feel like I have no purprose here.
I had a great art professor in college who told me that as artists we have to find something to earn a living that allows us to do what we have to do (create). If that means working as a bricklayer or hedge fund manager then so be it. It's the main reason I think he became an Art professor. He was a metal sculptor and created huge welded sculptures. Only one person collected his work and he rarely got commissions. There's no way he could have afforded a foundry with all the heavy lifting equipment, plasma cutters, etc. that he needed to do his work. But as a professor he could use the universities' equipment and get paid on top of that. I took his advice to heart and I'm an Elementary School Art in the US. I get paid to teach little kids how to create Art, and I mean Fine Art not pasta glued to a piece of construction paper. And I have access to a kiln, papers, paints, the whole lot. Now, I'm technically not supposed to use the kiln for personal work, or any of the papers paints pencils and what have you, but my Principal pays very little attention to me so I can get away with quite a bit lol.
I dont know if you've tried this but try leveraging social media to get more exposure to your work. Make some time lapses and upload to RUclips as a kind of journal of your work. People love to watch someone in their element working on their craft. Make shorts for instagram, tiktok, youtube shorts and longer videos on RUclips. Consistency is key and it can really boost your work and you'll start gaining followers who are willing to buy your work and if your channels get enough views RUclips, Tiktok, and Instagram will actually start paying you for your views. Then when you start gaining enough followers start a Patreon or even do commisions if you want. I've worked with an extensive list of top Creators on all platforms and i see exactly that in every case. I hope this helps. Don't give up.
I've been creating since I was a kid. I always had to put my art on hold either working or my husband's sucking up my energy and inspiration, until most of my life is gone I've sold some things I've made but to my friends. I have spent the past 3 years doing nothing but painting.... I have hundreds of paintings right now. I don't know what to do with them, I don't know how to go about selling them. I do not want to do it on social media, it's totally saturated with artists all talented. But my own struggle has been real, if not different than yours. I truly need to make it, more than I care if I sell it. I wish I could make a lot of money with my art, but if I did it would probably be after I'm gone.... Isn't that when someone's art makes the most money? I'm pretty sure that the largest sums of money paid for art were never to the artists!
@@rhonnachurch6929 If you know any other artists around you mybe you could pool your resources to rent a space in a strip mall or a booth at a craft show or fair and display your work there. I've thought about leasing a retail space in a mall or strip mall myself but I always get sidetracked and forget about it.
It's sad, but one of the first questions people usually ask me after looking at my work is "what is your art worth?". I say "it's worth nothing until someone decides to pay for it". Then they'll correct themselves and ask what my asking price for it is. It's just depressing that people automatically think in dollar terms when assessing "worth". EDIT: Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who has commented in this thread. Thank you for a very enjoyable and vibrant discussion.
I agree..art is dead..the sad part is modern art is shit..500 years from now if people are still here they will look back on this time as decadent and irrelevant and they will be correct
It's so sad how people base somethings worth on how much it costs. Its like supreme eventhough their clothing isn't all that special its somehow worth a damn because it costs so much money to buy. People only care about something if it's exploited.
as an amateur artists, I can say that some people this day mostly care about the aesthetics of old art but they are less interested to find a real hidden gem in small artist's artworks.
As a retired person on a small income, fine art is out of my reach - I was lucky enough to take several semesters of art history in college, and have supplemented that with my own research into artists or art movements that attract me. My current pleasure is to find landscapes and still lifes in thrift stores that I find interesting, fresh and without pretension. Some are technically good, most are mediocre, but the enjoyment of the artist for the subject shines through and I keep a little gallery in one room, filled with paintings and prints of trees, flowers and sky. I enjoy seeing them, and add to my collection occasionally. It brings me much happiness at very little cost.
As an artist I think what you do is beautiful, so many people have no real appreciation for art.. They look at the paintings and might appreciate or less the technical skills, but they don't know how to enjoy it, feel it, get filled with it! I stopped giving away my paintings once I understood that most people are just interested in art, if it has an important name attached to it.. so now I keep them for myself and very selected few!
As someone who went a an art school designed for the gaming and film industry, this video resonates with me. The issues that you described in the video are the same ones that led to me dropping out after the first year. The pressure to create content at a rapid pace as if I was a factory worker destroyed my likeness of art and the happiness I felt when making pieces. In no way to I resent those who create for these industries, but the very foundation of art and the history of its application seems to be completely lost in the high speed visual market. I am slowly finding my way back into my personal artistic journey and I hope to go back to study art history and figure drawing in the future and this video has helped me find some clarity in this turbulent time. Thank you!
@@notepadplusplus4923 You can learn by yourself actually. The only thing you need is diligence. There are cheap online atelier-style drawing courses that help compared to expensive art colleges that destroy creativity.
I graduated from film school and I ran into the same problem as you. I am currently creating personal art that may not be connected to serving the industry.
Unpopular opinion. Art in beforetimes was classist and inaccessible. It’s the same now. There were so many people whose creations were not prized or whose creations were stolen. The collection of beauty has always been for the powerful.
Correct, though there has always been folk-art and a lot of the best great art was ironic or subtly criticized the powerful or addressed "universal" themes - Rembrandt somehow managed to evoke human frailty, consciousness, dignity, suffering and so on.
That isn't true at all. Art always was for everyone. Art and artists were considered a trade craft. They were paid for just as a carpenter, a plasterer, a tailor, etc. Very very very few were considered wealthy throughout time. Those whom we consider masters we do so only because of their patrons. Michaelangelo didn't paint the Sistine Chapel because he was the best. He painted it to avoid being prosecuted for forgery. At that time they had discovered some ancient Greek ruins. Which that art was well sought after. Michaelangelo carved his own, covered them in yogurt then buried them. A few month later he dug them up and sold them as originals. Two peices he sold to a man whom then became pope. Artemisia was a far better painter. But they would have had to pay her. So she went on to Spain to paint the Spanish court and teach people like van dyke. DaVinci wasn't a great inventor and he wasn't a great anything. Everyone of his time knew he stole Taccalo's two manuscripts from his two published works. Hence why he never finished anything. Because he didn't know how. He was laughed at and passed over time and time again. Until a French king felt so sorry for him he took the old man in and allowed him to die with dignity. The Mona Lisa displayed publically since DaVinci's death and no one could give two shits. It wasn't until it was stolen and made the papers daily that through the mere exposure effect the Mona Lisa and DaVinci became a household name. We know these names not because they were rich, important, powerful, etc. We know them because of tragedy and mistakes. They'd the mere exposure effect we fall to or knees and call them masters when in reality a great many were far more talented and fast more available. Artists were hired to paint the walls of homes, family portraits, tapestries, etc. Art and the artist was everywhere and available to all.
This is only true if you only think art is only what is owned and traded by the rich. Don’t believe their lies and you won’t suffer any loss (in the context of art).
We all need to stop and ask ourselves -- "do i like this art because I actually like it?" Or "Do I like this art because someone else told me to like it?"
Another unpopular opinion: if art is so accessible to the common people, how come so many people(other than artists) don’t want to pay anything for art? There are so many art festivals and such, and so often so many of those artists leave with all their art in hand. I personally believe it has more to do with the image art has.
This is long but bear with me on this. Well, you're right and you're wrong. While it can be accessible to common people in certain ways, there are still subjective perspectives at play. With that subjectivity, societal norms, at least in the U.S., tends to put art at the lower end of the totem pole, creating a lack of interest or knowledge in the arts. With more exposure and knowledge of the arts comes better appreciation and understanding as to how much time and effort an artist goes through, allowing others to wrap their head around why a piece is expensive and so forth. Added on with how art is becoming more of a privilege for the rich to invest in and you've got yourself a societal stigma against one of the purest ways human beings express their inner consciousness. And it's cliché to say this but, in this economy? Most people are working-class and don't see investing in art to be something at the top of their mental lists. It's not something that can feed them, and whether it is of works they genuinely like or want to surround themselves with, why spend 20+ dollars on an art museum when you can get better, if not free, entertainment and activities elsewhere. Overall, I think the current day idea of what art is has become skewed common people into thinking it isn't obtainable and appreciate it less. Also, just because you create, doesn't mean people have to like/buy it.
@@melissachow390 it's accessible because of the internet, if it weren't instantly accessible and free, maybe people would have an incentive to purchase art
@@dnjdsolarus yeah definitely agree with that! My explanation also works with art on the internet, and I was explaining under the context of art festivals/physical public art. But that is definitely another reason
As a Musical artist, I can't help but feel the same about the music Industry. That being said, I do buy artwork from my friends because, they make beautiful art.
If you want to fight this, buy from (living) artists who move your heart. Not based on money. If you feel you cannot afford this, ask the artist you are interested in if they will accept time payments and pay them off a little bit each month and when you are done collect your painting-sculpture-photograph etc. People are very willing to do this, we have bought art from living artists, and small antiquities from dealers with no problem. We have done this for many years on and off as we have been able to. Looking at art as a monetary investment is like looking at your young children in terms of what dollar value you can get out of them.
Yeah, too bad that art that also moves my heart is way too out of my bank account. Original art is effin expensive. It also tends to be extremely hard to get a hold of (limited production). 🥲 I try to support the ones I can buy buying trinkets, but I have to really like it for it just to collect dust. -a fellow artist
So much this! I have accepted installments for my work before. I want it to be in the hands of the people who love it, but I'm also not willing to devalue my work by giving it away for pennies.
I send work for an exhibition the other day. Small works. The gallery contacted me and said my work is too expensive. He wanted to have an affordable works show for Christmas! He immediately put it out on WhatsApp that he's having an affordable works show. This after i send the works with a courier over thousands of kilometers. I explained to him that the 17 x 17 cm work took me about a week to make. Its on Belgium linen and framed. I'm sayin these materials and framing and transport to and from shows. There's a whole system one carry from cellphone to wifi, car etc. the costs are hidden and you don't sell all your work. I asked R5000. deducting costs it would mean about R3000 for a weeks work. That is a very low wage for a very developed skill. its definitely better to make arrangements to pay the artist off. This gallery and many clients wants high quality for a low quality price. I mean, i can produce a work in 5 minutes, 1 hour or a week. They don't want the other work though. They want the Rolce Royse for the price of an Uno.
I was born an artist, and I can remember crying my eyes out when I was like 8 at the art museum in Chicago because I realized all of these beautiful pieces of art were all sold or traded like gold after the artist died. It really hit home because I was a huge fan of Mozart and I know he died penniless even though his work was genius. Noone is ever appreciated in their lifetime, and I don't want to be dead when my art is being auctioned off in some New York gallery by guys in suits. That's not what my art is destined to be. How dare you (elite society) ruin the dreams of an innocent creative child simply by existing enough that she recognizes your evil and will not partake in that system. I give my art away to friends and family as gifts, and when I do sell art I make it very clear that my soul is infused with my work so to please respect it like you would an old friend.
I had this moment of realization when I was sitting on my bed, thinking about all the time I spent in art college and outside of it trying to get recognized through my hard work before moving over to thinking about Van Gogh's life. How he basically tried to sell his art for literal pennies and still people turned their heads from it despite how much heart and soul was evident in his brushstrokes and atmospheric works. How he practically broke down mentally from all this and still was nice enough to take the fall for a kid who accidentally injured his ear, leading to the infamous tale. He died starving and yet his work sells for millions now. Everything hit me like a truck in that moment and I just broke down crying and bawling on my bed, saying to my parents "Van Gogh was only able to sell his work because he died". That was such a soul-crushing moment for me even to think back on. I try to turn my perspective on it now, that if that is how things play out, then I will just continue to make art on my own, for myself. If I gather a crowd for it, great! I want my work to resonate with people and perhaps inspire them. To turn it over to a vapid part of society which sees nothing but investment in it, to hell with them! I'd rather be free to express my own desires, fears, needs, and spirituality through my work. No one can stop me!
I had this exact revelation at 10 or so. It was very soul crushing to see most great artists starving to death, even loads of scientists suffered the same fate. This world is really unfair to truly valuable, vital work. They just appreciate some nonsensical jobs that produce nothing.
Art is born from passion and truth. Until the artist with true passion are creating art and taking risk nothing can go wrong. Passionate artists will keep on creating with a desire to create weather commercially successful or not. And the time will decide......
artists can be multi faceted. you can be dedicated to your passion meanwhile also being a business person & selling your art to profit off of your hours of hard labor.
@@artist_aquar nah its too simple to say that, remember they got to live 😭😭😭 Mozart died poor even though now hes considered as a legend, its not that great you know 🤣🤣 so yeah he will keep on wanting to create but the commercially success is still important i think
Wait does that mean that the portrait of the king Louis fourteenth is born from passion and truth? Or on the opposite, does that mean its not art if its not born from passion and truth?
@@coussin6869 I don't know, do you believe in destiny? Even if you don't believe in destiny, you can guess that we exist with a universal software (programming). If financial success and career success are promised in one's software, one will achieve it. difficult to reach if not promised. If you know these facts, you will be comfortable with everything. Look at Matisse's work. Matisse couldn't paint very well. However, success in the worldly life was promised to him
I actually have studied art history this year and i have to defend Duchamp with his urinary. Let me explain. The context was that Duchamp along with other friends were protesting against galleries that needed an evaluation for art to be accepted and so they created an expo where you only pay a little price and you can show your art. And so, Duchamp without his friends knowledge, bought an urinary, wrote the date and send it with the money. When he arrived to the place that same day, there was chaos. Some people were completely against the idea of showing the urinary and others defended it because it had paid the fee. In the end it wasn't shown but that debate, over what is or not art and how far we can take it is the meaning behind Duchamp's urinary. But because of this debate created with a basis behind it, we now have an excuse for everything to be art. A classmate once said: "It has meaning if you are the first but after that I could just show this pencil I have, say that the meaning is too deep for others to understand and it works but not becouse I believe in it but because another person has made the hard work of deffending it"
I have a deep love of Duchamp and the Dadaist movement. Agree with the first time thing as Duchamp was making a point and others making the point over and over make the point lose some of it’s power. One does need to know the motivation and context behind a work to evaluate its meaning which can feel inaccessible tho
Duchamp called himself a „non-retinal artist“ and I think that is important. What was happening at the time is the strategy of retinal art meaning art of the visual Sense. Realism, Impressionism, even cubism were retinal strategies. It was about seeing things. Visual aesthetics. A poem is not just about rhythm and rhymes etc. the best poetry points to an invisible world. The best art IMO also does. And religious art traditionally was about pointing to invisible things. Christianity was very much influenced by Platonism in this regard. And Hindu religious art is very much about trying to depict invisible energies represented by gods and goddesses. In Western culture today it is still dominated by retinal art strategies of beautiful material objects to be bought and sold etc. I prefer the Duchamp strategy because I am interested in invisible things. But that might be about painting, sculpture, poem, found objects etc. what every way I can help make invisible things understandable. I am not against craft and nicely made objects. But with out the intention trying to point to invisible things „non-retinal“ things, art looses something essential.
Thanks for supporting artists, even those that might be unknown. I'm a children's book artist in Canada and my books sell like crazy to kids. My art is slow selling, but I avoid the gallery system. It is most definitely filled with crooks. Very few who get into the gallery scene will make any money and most have horror stories to tell about how they were ripped off by gallery owners and dealers. I've sold lots of art in restaurants, coffee shops and even a few paintings from a gelato shop. Help out new businesses by hanging your work there. You'd be surprised how supportive people are. Just make sure you get insured and have proof that you've hung the work there.
I am glad the art faculty leader didn’t allow me to study art , reasons only known to her. I have hidden in my studio making art for the last 5 years after quitting my job to focus on more creative pursuits. Recently I got a shop and placed all the art I have been creating for many years. I get blown away when I sell an original painting, I am baffled and truly humbled when people love and buy my art. I am so grateful,especially recently reading The artist van Gogh sold only one painting in his entire life.
you said everything i couldn’t explain - the ugliest garbage thrown into a canvas was selling in the hundreds of thousands and the awesome pieces nobody even looked at. yes money laundering, pretentious understanding of an art piece to be known and served like a king by the snobbish art dealer - you said it all!!!
Hoe moet ik dat weten maar dan nog als iemand het mooi vind en zeker diegene die ik maar voor gemak ART noemt ,vind ik grandioos,denkt hij aan mij ,trouwens waar waren zij dan te zien heb ook geen uitnodiging ervoor gekregen ,maar dan was het voor mij ook te ver als het is tentoongesteld in het buitenland en zeker in Corona tijd ,nou verwacht een antwoord terug 😲
This reminded me of the first time I was introduced to Pollock's work and my teacher was like "Look at this, doesn't it make you feel something?" My mind immediately went to "Does this guy even know how to draw?" Of course, I'm not doubting the artist's talent today but if a kid can think like that then it says a lot of about society's value of "good" art.
i hate the modern art shit so much, don’t get me wrong creating the idea of emotion is cool, and espically for vent art, but it’s becoming just so much more popular than other art that tells a story and in a time where everything is boiled down to the simpiedt thing i just can’t stand it
As an artist I thank you for this video. I feel suffocated with the perception of today's world and its ways of expressing. What happened to art is an answer to what has happened to us, humans. Unhealed traumas, complex and forgotten insecurities answered with materialistic satisfaction and path to consumerism. Drive for the sake of it with an empty reflection and no means to growth as that hurts. I feel we must stare with eyes painfully open and notice all that life brings to our experience. Hugs from Poland, Wojtek
I went to MOMA in New York purely to see Starry Night my favourite Van Gogh painting and while I just wanted to stand in front and absorb it (I’ll likely never see it again unless it goes on tour) but I was constantly jostled and pushed aside by people wanting to take photos and selfies. It was so frustrating, but I do think the average selfie taker is much much less of a problem than the art investors who just want to keep accumulating wealth. Truly until we change our mindset away from capitalism this cycle will keep going.
One counteraction living artists can take is to organize and curate shows in local galleries. People do come and the work does sell. It gives artists something to work towards and keeps the public engaged. Don't leave it up to the big money establishment to give you the green light.
Exactly what I and three other artists are doing this year. We are lucky though that there is a tutoring place in our city that lets us rearrange the whole space to become an art gallery for a week. In my mind, government should do much more to provide places for creatives to connect with each other and their potential audiences and display their work. The private market will pretty much only keep going the way this video talked about.
As an intensively process-based artist, I can totally related to this. You are absolutely spot on! Also love your soundtrack. I will share this to everyone I know!
I can appreciate how this video is organized into "chapters", because this is a very complicated topic. I honestly believe that it has gotten better for artists. Why? Because here we are on the internet having an important discussion about the future of art. 50 years ago, we would have to be in the "circle" of artists to have any impact. And for argument’s sake, that was very guarded until the last two decades. Although, yes, capitalism has given the rich and powerful the means to pervert the art world, it has also provided the incentive for technology to be created in order for us to communicate more easily. To share our stories, processes, and completed projects. Art is not dead, it is evolving. It isn't an easy change, either. For those of us caught in the wake, it can be painful. But like he said, there is hope. Every day I find an artist online making art the way they want with a community they've built that is supporting them. Isn't that amazing? The power to create and share it how we want is now in our hands. It's up to us to take it and use it, rather than let the chosen few run away with it. The creator of this video has already demonstrated the power that this technology has to carry a message and connect people. How will you use it?
Agree yes!..and social media with private websites, visual artists really are able to create their own visual culture which can in its own way rival and/or interact with established gallery culture...
Zou het niet weten heb mij eigelijk eerlijk gezegd er ook niet in verdiept, deze materie van Art was mij vreemd totdat ,eigelijk wil ik gewoon mijn gang gaan , zoals in de tuin altijd nieuwsgierig hoe kleuren en of het groeien ervan, hou van mensen en vooral de discussie hoe alles beter kan of moeten weglaten omdat het schaadt kan veel over dingen nadenken soms te veel tot aan koppijn toe of scheel zien van het te lang kijken en nu is mijn wereldje met teveel onrust het cirkelt maar rond terwijl ik juist de schoonheid van het leven zoek zien anderen je liever dood maar naar mijn instinct is juist zoeken naar Liefde , het ware Art van het leven hoe wij als mens moeten groeien en opgroeien in vrede en eens zal onze Creator zien hoe wij zijn Art hebben bewaard en lief gehad als rentmeesters waardig maar terwijl ik het type ben ik verdrietig 😞 omdat oorlog de vernietiging inluidt van zoveel kostbare levens ,hoe moeten wij het uitleggen bij de Schepper ,kunnen wij het wel uitleggen moeten wij zeggen SORRY ons blijft alleen vragen om genade voor onze dommigheid,graaizucht , maar vooral liefdeloosheid ,dus blijf zoeken naar LIEFDE , HOOP OP VREDE MET IEDER maar boven al VREDE MET GOD in de naam van Yeshua 🙏
That is true if you can pay for Facebook ads, Instagram ads, Google ads, a studio to make your art in (un less you are fortunate to have a house or apartment with enough space to not only make your art there but also to store it) Not to mention that handling professional social media accounts is a job of it self. It is possible to make a living out of art if you have those assets. But expecting to make more than the average 10k a year is just wishful thinking.
The good drives out the bad. Remove standards of quality and the rubbish will flow in. Very expensive trash now sets the standards of quality for young artists...many of whom can no longer recognize what makes art art.
Being an active artist who has filled my social media feeds with other artists, a lot of us are already shunning the algorithm. If you want to be truly productive, truly creative, you can't bow to an algorithm. The people who design social media algorithms don't understand what it's like to be an artist, and frankly, they don't really care. In my opinion, big, Instagram-worthy installations may be sucking the soul out of the art world; treating major artists like creative factories may be sucking the soul out of the art world.......but those artists contributing to those forms of consumption don't have to participate, and smaller artists don't have to fight the algorithm either. We can fight back against the algorithm and cold investors. I think we already are.
I'm starting to shun the algorithm as well too. I have an extremely small audience scattered across different social media but trying to update all of them all the time under the fear and pressure of losing traction day in and day out has nearly killed my drive to create art at all. When I do create art, it is only when I don't feel that pressure and I'm doing it mainly for myself. To see myself expressed in art and creating my own little world to escape briefly into on paper. It gives me an immense amount of peace and calm in an already-chaotic world which has not treated me well in the last few years. When I can't describe feelings in words, I put them on paper. It's one of if not the of the most important thing for me as a coping mechanism for my autism. I would rather go to art fairs and become a local artist with work that resonates, rather than cater to a crowd of millions by producing quick work like a churning meat factory. I went to a prestigious private art school for four years and while watching this video, I kept reminiscing about the buyers who would come into our art sale only to seek out the most "well-known" artists and works which had no real meaning but were rather abstract painting with random colors splashed on and "safe" landscape work you could hang in an office. I only ever saw sales on my art when the general public came to view work the day after the high-class buyers/visitors left. The comments I often hear is that it connected with them on a spiritual level, or helped put into view a very complex feeling about something they are going through too. Those comments mean so much more to me than a quick spark of likes before my art disappears into the vast pit of the algorithm. I sometimes wish I could quit posting my art on social media all together, just so I don't feel shackled to these unrealistic expectations set by society. However, one of the main ways I am even able to connect with the outside world or even my friends is through social media. It really does suck but when I do go cold-turkey on catering to the algorithm, I will let all my followers know or at least try to by making a pinned post of sorts. Let us fight this system together.
@@GloryDaze73 Just...... do you. Don't fight the algorithm. Art that can be done in enough time to post new and significant work every single day isn't worth sharing. The algorithm hates you as an artist and will sooner chew you up and spit you out. You're worth more than that. Just do you.
I love the hope that you brought at the end. Totally agree, to say art is dead is an insult to the small working artists of the world like me. It definitely lives 🌟 This was a beautifully crafted video. Thank you for sharing this message.
This video is WONDERFUL to watch as an artist. The music, visuals, narration, message, hope, and everything… So refreshing. This makes me wonder what you’ll think about NFTs.
Yeah that is a big Joke, one reason why I don't do Commission's, could do 10x times more money with other thing's. What we should focus on is passive income trough prints or other things.
I have experienced this same thing many times! Sucks don't it? I wish people that claim to love your work would consider paying something realistic for it !
Let me play devils advocate here: There are many people who simply do not have the money to buy a piece of art, which ultimatly is a decoraction, for 500 bucks or more. The audience you speak to as a artist with that kind of asking price, even if that price is totally reasonable and legitmiate for you to make ends meet, excludes huge swathes of people with that. (And my estimate of 500€/$ could even be to low. If you say you work 2 weeks on a piece, to make any money with that, what are you asking for? 1000? 1500? I am sorry, but normal people cannot afford something like that.)
@@WorldOfSafari Sure, they can’t afford $3000 art once in a blue moon but they have no problem having expensive restaurant meals $300 several times a week and lavish vacations $5000 avery month and lot’s of expensive Gucci bags! Poor folks 😢 Hypocrites!
@@THEARTURLIVE People who do any off these things are not normal people. You cannot even afford that kind of live if you are inside the top 10% of a rich western country, not even looking as some less fortunate. If your work can only be made affordable when rick folks are your customers, fine. But to then go and complain that poorer people dont unterstand/appreciate your business is disingenuous. Someone who barely earns enough money to life a normal life wouldn't have bought such artwork anyway.
Thank you for this video. Life as an artist today can often times feel hopeless, like a great abyss of a corporate dystopia, where we walk around a valley of unbought and unloved paintings and works. Myself, and fellow artists look around at each other, and wonder "Maybe our time really is over," or "Maybe we aren't as talented as we thought, maybe nobody cares about our art." As we struggle endlessly with making rent, or even buying the materials necessary to continue making art. Your video, while stating a serious of truths that I already otherwise agreed with, or observed in the art world - has a very powerful potential: to wake up the countless thousands who have watched your video to what is really happening here. To fight against this grotesque seizure of human expression at the hands of corporate soullessness, and narcissistic trends. To go forth and buy the works of smaller, original artists, and reaffirm: this has value, not only financially, but to the human experience. To *my* human experience. The question is, what's next? How do we take everything you've said in this video a step further? How do your suggestions at the end of the video, transform into action? Nonetheless, as an artist, I thank you for this video. It was wonderfully produced, edited, and narrated.
@Leonhard Euler I can understand you from the other end of the spectrum. Unfortunately, I think it will only continue to be like that, so the best we can do is gather ourselves together, and keep pushing and doing the work for the sake of our passion. That's all there really is in the end, I suppose. Don't get discouraged my friend, just keep moving forward!
Okay, you earned my sub. I left art school in 1977 because I was seeing these things in their nascency: the gulfs between art and Art and "Art." That's why I patronize the AVAM over in Baltimore, to celebrate visionary art. Modern Populism will eventually root out the "old guard" mentality of today's feudalism, though probably not in my lifetime.
Firstly: thank you from a ceramic artist in the pacific. As a girl from a workingmans background i studied art. However, artschool has only taught me one thing: it has changed from a meaningful expression coupled with true skills and passion to profanity without any skills at all. I am a ceramic artist with a passion in figurine making often using the 2D old master as a starting point to create it in 3D... it gives my art meaning and I love dearly what I'm doing. And funny that: people pick up on the spirit my pieces were made. So I sell... slowly but steadily. It is mostly those who want a piece of joy in their homes. Pieces skillfully made sometimes with a political twist, satirical and still delightful. That is my aim and it works. I wish I could make more money for the skills also involve time and trials, but I'm not under pressure. So I think we artists also need to aim at meaning and skill and forget about money. Because ppl pick up on the true heart and spirit and usually smell the piece made in the spirit of greed. 😊
"Money has never killed art". Nothing can stop an artist from creating. Without investors, many works of art are buried in the attic, destroyed by time. Money has never killed art, it has brought more people into art. We don't have to own art piece, but everyone can enjoy it.
The stark reality is: an artist needs to buy food, pay rent and all that like a plumber does or anybody else. So, if artists cannot earn a living from their art, they have to spend their time and energy in other ways than exercising their craft. Therefore, no money coming in from their art truly stops an artist from creating. It's a romantic and false notion to think, that artists need nothing to live in this world, only their passion for creating art. For you to be able to enjoy art, somebody had to pay either the artist directly for a painting or give the artist an allowance to be able to live, or the artist has to be married to a rich, supporting spouse or have other private sponsors. E.g. Van Gogh did not sell one work during his life time, even though his brother was an art dealer. However, his brother supported him financially, so that he could live, paint and buy the necessary materials. And what held true for Van Gogh, holds true for every artist today too.
*Without investors, many works of art are buried in the attic, destroyed by time* How devoid of self awareness can you be? Most private art collectors do the exact same thing.
Art under capitalism, as in any society divided into classes, is the privilege of a rich minority. Most people don't have the time to really engage in it because they are overworked and exploited. Art stays restricted to small microcosm of specialists living on the alimony of rich mecenes. Capitalism has allowed a huge developpment of culture compared to medieval feudalism, but now in its senile stage of crisis, it is threatening to drag the whole society into recession and cultural regression. The task of the working class is to overthrow capitalism and unleash the potential creativity of mankind by the means of socialist revolution! Forwards!!!
Art saves; it’s beauty imbues a sense of passion and goodness to every person it touches and should be accessible to all, not esoteric to the rich, but grasped by the masses to help inspire something good within them. The current state of the art industry is indeed corrupt, isolated to the few, nevertheless I hope that art reaches far and wide to quench the thirst of all that live in hopelessness and may it ignite a piece of hope to live a happy, beautiful and fulfilled life. Living as a small artist in a ever growing and suffocating art market is extremely difficult, and the innumerable failures an artist encounters can often be soul crushing, but what raises my spirit from desolation is the process of creation, for it is the art of fulfilling. No matter what goes on, no matter where I may be as long as I can feel what I see in my paintings, it feeds my soul for another day. As you have said in your video, an artist may never be able to make it big, or succeed in the industry, to go throughout their life creating yet garner no attention; but to the unknown artist such as myself, a little support can go a long way. We all sympathise and admire historical figures such as Van Gogh, who was ridiculed and ostracised within the art community his whole life, yet fail to see that Van Gogh exists today, in the likeness of the unknown artist creating euphoric visuals with no one watching, to the small creators telling beautiful stories with no one listening, to the artist full of ideas yet remain starving. I hope that we can all help and support each other in our appreciation of art because supporting those passionate artist will in turn curate a passionate world. If you made it this far down, I thank you for your time and I wish you all the success you deserve in the future💫
It is interesting to point out how some famous artists today, whose paintings are now among the most expensive, were poor and struggled to be accepted during their artistic life. Gauguin never sold one of his paintings during his entire life, check out how much they cost today... ironic. But these are special cases. Some countries on the other hand are more prone to be perceived by international investors and galleries as art producers than others, and education is always something considered. In developing countries you find talented people, but unfortunately costs for materials and art schools are too high, for a career that is reserved to people on higher economic levels. Anyway, the unknown artists I have met, they do art because is who they are... when you love something you find the way to do it
I still can't get used to the constant photos and selfies going on at art museums. I remember the days when cameras were not allowed, and standing so close to priceless works was prohibited. It really is all about "ME" now....here I am with a famous backdrop. People wander from room to room in museums snapping photos of so many works in a matter of minutes or seconds. It's sad.
R. Crumb said it best in "Fine Artiste Blues" "I quit my job I spent three months in bed Thought I’d take up fine art painting instead I got me a canvas and I got me some pain Five minutes work is gonna make me a saint Baby I’m a fine artiste And maybe I deserve to be kissed My paintings are famous and they’re worth lots of dough Pretty girls all hang around my gallery show I’m as good with my paintbrush as I am with my lips Stick around honey learn some ass-thetic tips! Baby, I'm a Fine Artiste and maybe I deserve to be kissed! Be bull-headed at what ever you do Let that old ego come a beamin’ on thru Tell him fine art is something he don’t know And he’ll be that chump who floats you that dough Baby, I'm a Fine Artiste and maybe I deserve To be kissed First I was a cowboy and then a guru priest Any old thing just to keep my palms greased I wear a white leather suit and some bubble toed shoes Got a fifty thousand dollar a year case of the blues!"
@@mickysanchez5511 The point is that the gallery/museum art world has been corrupted by the collectors who are only buying art as a $ investment. They know nothing about the real value of art and apparently neither do you. The culture of corruption and moral degradation that we now find ourselves in is, of course, reflected in the art world.
im an outsider artist. i resorted to art for mental survival; it has been the best expression for the passion inside of me. this validated my feelings, my work and my status as an artist. thank you.
I fell in love with art when I was very young. At the age of 13 I began tirelessly working on a craft I knew would yield little return. I’m 23 now, and it feels like I’m staring down an ocean. Small artist get lost in the sea of other artist, and it can be hard to compete to be seen in a world filled with so many amazing artists. I can just hope that some day I’ll be great too. Or that atleast someone feels that I was when they look at my work
THANK YOU for this video. It mirrors what is happening in music and other art forms. The monetization of everything will make us pay for much we have heretofore taken for granted and it will cost us in multiple ways - not only to see and experience various forms of art, but in the quality of the works we experience. Sadly, I believe the narrative has underplayed the danger. JR
Thank you for this video. Even tho I studied a different sector of art, cinema, I can see lots of relation to the movie industry, I participated in movie festival as a jury and realized that people acclaim movies so that their next movie can be acclaimed by those people as well. Its so difficult to enter the industry here in Italy if your not son or friend of somebody so it makes it a very closed world. Even more the public financial system look more at the curriculum vitae of the people involved in a project more than the project itself, the consequence is that few new artist can make their movie and those who been doing it for years keep doing so even sometimes creating repetitive work and poorly created with no creativity or expermintation. To not talk about the fact that many movies are made to please the public and generally keep proposing the same ridicoul plot. I been working 1 year on a short film, I've been doing it because I enjoyed filming, editing ect. but I always been aware that only few people will see it but I hope they will appreciate it so yeah I agree with your final message. Anyway Im glad I found your channel, would love to see more even in other sector of art like theater and cinema. Hope to help some day the people republic of art! Thanks and keep on with the great work! 🌞
Harold Speed in his book "The Practice and Science of Drawing" written in 1917 lamented the fact back then that people were producing rubbish under the guise of individuality trying to give their lack of training the illusion of credibility. If he wasn't already dead, seeing what passed as art today would kill him within minutes. Rubbish will always be rubbish. Good art should always be recognised by what it does to the soul, not by the name of an artist or a price tag. What a great video.
'People producing rubbish....the illusion of credibility ' That's like saying all rock music is rubbish because they don't have classical music training. People who expect visual art to remain bound to 19th century principals would find it absurd for music to do so. Maybe being more open minded would help.
I hundred percent agree with this. This is the reason why I wanted to go to art school because visually I was recognizing "bad art" but I didn't have the vocabulary to understand why it was so. It irritates me when people say anything could be art because it undervalues the true labor and hours one must put in to get good.
@@saxviars9749 Yes, any art of any age and style is to a great extent a craft. If an artist does not put in the time to learn and exercise that craft, he will never have the tools to fully put his vision across but perhaps he can get away with faking it. And if so, does that fake truly satisfy? One has to ask oneself: would one want a pilot who truly knows what he is doing or would one be happy enough with one who can fake a flight with the help of, say, computers? Maybe a far fetched allegory... but you get what I mean.
Thank you so much for bring this issue to the talk. I'm an artist and I find so hard nowdays... People don't care about the message that art brings. It's so hard...
Great video!!! I am an artist, and I think artists we have to educate more, the art lover, the viewer so we can create a art community far away from the billion’s art world.
Thanks for this! I rarely find any beauty, any 'Können' (The German word for art, Kunst, is related to the word 'Können', ability or talent) in modern art. I take very much pride in my small collection of pre 19th century japanese woodblockprints. They may not be expensive, but I own a genuine work from Hokusai, the one who made the famous Wave of Kanagawa (my print was around 400 Euro). I don't expect to resell it for millions, and honestly, even if, or better: expecially if prices went up so much, I dont think I would sell it, because like Marie Kondo says: "This one sparks joy"
@@PeoplesRepublicOfArt The novelist Antony Burgess said: "There is no substitute for craft...Art begins with craft, and there is no art until craft has been mastered."
I am so glad somebody is covering this-as a person who takes art as a true expression this started to shift drastically when I was viewing NFTs.This sort of put all of the pieces together- the music and edit is also so well done. This is content and creators like this are going to need protecting. If anything - the value of art is being protected through information like this.
I agree with you on just about everything you talked about except maybe the consumer part in chapter 4. As a traditionalist in painting, still trying to keep a modern edge, I've always valued the quality of work. I know plenty of people who felt that way too. I would agree with you that the popular masses in fact do what you're saying no doubt. I work in a museum and you'd be surprised how many people are passionate about the process. I guess it just depends. Great video though. Thought it was hella spot on and considerate of many things I think about especially working with art everyday.
Ik zou zeggen kom eens langs om te vertellen over een baan / werk/ werkelijk inhoudt / en misschien ben ik helemaal geen geschikte persoon ervoor , kortom de uitnodiging ligt er en koffie staat klaar ☕️ of thee mij om het even ben benieuwd naar Uw stoute schoenen 😂 of ergens afspreken kan ook ,tracteer ik op koffie of thee ,misschien tot ziens 👋
As an abstract painter, I strive to improve my use of color, texture, composition, and movement in my work. Hoping for my viewer to enjoy and see what I wish to convey. Some pieces provoke curiosity others calm or energy. Each piece I create is distinctly different from what I did before. At 75 I just enjoy the process. Art and life is good. Tk you for your thoughts
Excellent track for the final segment… Aphex twin created a soul stirring song. That’s the part I love most about art. It’s when my heart and mind gently open while experiencing the work, bravo
Thank you for the enlightening, but sad commentary on the art world, however, I do appreciate the comments at the end, and it does make a difference to the little guy when you buy a piece art. For myself, I put a lot of conscious effort into the images I passionately craft in the darkroom.
Its extremely disheartening as an artist when you see shit like a banana taped on a wall that sells for 100,000 plus when you actually want to work on legitimate projects. In an “anything goes” level of calamity involving buying and selling art those who want to make a living cant afford to do so and have no idea how to make a living at it because there is no structure and viable customer base. So therefore there could have been some great work that the world got to see but many artists dont get the opportunity
As an artist who started after finishing my Engineering major, the key thing I found out about art appreciation and current phenomena is that people are not as educated enough to appreciate a work of art as they do other academic courses like science or math. I, myself only begun to appreciate the beauty of an art piece after I started my art training. So the people who are not as educated in art as an artist value art as they can do best: with numbers and dollar signs.
Have to disagree, you really don't have to be educated in art to appreciate it. Perhaps that's the way you learned to like it, but saying that anyone who hasn't studied art views it as only having monetary value just isn't true. Did you only see art as a financial asset before studying it?
Gotta agree with will here, that’s a pretty shallow perspective on all this. Maybe that’s what you yourself experienced, but you definitley don’t need an art degree to appreciate art.
Thank you for this honest assessment of the 'mainstream' art world. There are plenty of regional artists, like myself, who are not selling to a market but who do have a work ethic of integrity and a deep personal knowledge of the true role that art plays in all of our lives.
I love this video so much. Couple of weeks ago I noticed that one of the largest art galleries in my area were running a party one night hosted by some high-profile boujee fashion brand catering expensive wine and fresh oysters. At that same gallery they have the works of celebrated artists that died poor and destitute who would have condemned this sort of commodification of art. It's a shame that fine-arts or any art never stopped being exclusively for the affluent and wealthy even in the 21st.
Love your conclusion. Art isn't something that can die. It's just eclipsed by commercialism in the art market. But it lives wherever creativity is truly valued.
Its ironic to use 'the banana taped to a wall' as a contrasting example of art that isn't 'revolutionary, profound, expressive, informative, awe-inspiring, and amusing', when the piece titled 'comedian' is an installation by maurizio cattelan who is well known for being a satirical artist to poke fun at the irony of the rich. The title of 'comedian' hints of Maurizio's awareness of the comedic absurdity of its own evaluation on the art market, art dealers and their place within this system, and I think represents a power play as a creator to poke fun at 'the money that is killing art'. Art is of course subjective however i find the comedian to be at least expressive, informative and amusing on a surface level of observation and light information on the artist. I would suggest considering challenging the perspective of opinion on installation and immersive artists and modern art consumers. Of course people or influencers will use art as opportunistic material for instagram, however if an artist is utilising the tool of instagram and selfie-culture it doesnt necessarily communicate that their concepts are shallow for inviting that of their audience. Perhaps it can enhance the status of the user but it isn't one sided, the artist is utilising the audience as a tool for exposure. Art is adaptive and representitive of the social, political and economic circumstances of that period. If an installation or artwork is used as a backdrop for a selfie or to flex online, why would that be synonymous with an inability to reflect or appreciate the piece. It is solely upon the individual to challenge their emotions and opinions when observing or immersing themselves in an artwork, so why would a modern installation be considered any less legitimate than pieces by Leonardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo, or Sandro Botticeli if it evokes expressions of the human experience. There is evidence of human skill and craftsmanship everywhere we look on life, you don't have to be in an art gallery to observe this. Unless you are personally aware of the skill and time that goes into creating something most people won't appreciate the thing regardless because the perspective and knowledge isn't there and that's okay. Not everyone views artwork to analyse the technical ability of the artist, this is why art is subjective. People involve themselves in art to reflect upon what aligns with their values. Cool video! Loved the mood and the pacing, and the fact it made me reflect on my own opinions and values. Thanks for that! 😊🙏
you can still appreciate and value the idea of the piece, while believing the actual piece itself is just as trash as the other work that it's commenting on
Attention seeking pranksters like Maurizio are just that-playing pranks. Trying to say that it's an awareness of the comedic absurdity of its own evaluation on the art market is an attempt to rationalize vacuity. Any childish disruption could fit that bill; setting a shopping cart full of toilet paper on fire, dumping raw sewage on a plate, pouring honey on a pile of used diapers, spray painting a dick on the wall of the museum. Any kind of striking, unusual thing would be a power play as a creator to poke fun at the art market, art dealers and their place within their system. That does not make it revolutionary, profound, expressive, informative, or awe-inspiring.
@@dsdm2364 In my opinion, 'the idea of the piece' IS the art... not the physical form. But that's how I think in general and it is not a common modality.
I would like to add an observation to your video. As an artist and art collector. Who has a home full of both known and unknown artists. And my own work. About seven years ago I moved to the Silicon Valley. The tech industry now controls a great percentage of the wealth and commerce in our nation. These are very smart people who often make up to a half $1 million a year so imagine a husband and wife both pulling in 4 to 500,000 a year. Who live in a decent sized 2,000,000+ home. The problem is with the tech people. Because of their industrial education? They don’t support or collect art. I’ve yet to walk into one of these large 2,000,000+ homes that there is anything hanging on the walls except sometimes. One painting or two paintings that were painted by the wife or a family member! And not only do they not support art or culture. Because of them the prices have gone up so high in the areas that they were once galleries and artists that thrived like the city of San Francisco. That not only can the artist not afford the rent. But the galleries are going out of business and the artists have had to turn to other ways of survival. That is the best part of the NFT market I guess? Though it is affecting quality and perceptions of the intelligence, integrity and skill behind true fine art. But I also want you to know that every time I do experience this void of cultural support and appreciation for the intelligence of art with the demographic I live with. I give them a huge didactic speech. About what exactly they are doing and how it is harming our culture. Because without the humble works of artists throughout time. We would’ve lost entire civilizations and representations of unbiased cultural events.
My soul was weeping to watch this video but great content nevertheless & very insightful at that too. Ironically today's art/art market still manages to fulfill one of its functions: to mirror the zeitgeist of society! So one should reflect on how ugly, superficial, and pretentious today's world has become. But with that said, I still believe in change for more depth and value not only in art but in every other aspect of life too. Thanks for this video!!
In my art history class, my professor would always talk about really observing art, not just looking but seeing it. He said that many people go to art museums with a goal: to see every piece in the museum- and they end up leaving hours later after achieving that goal, but they don't have anything to say about the pieces they saw. He said that what he does now is go to a museum and find a piece that stuck out to him early on, and he would stick with it for a long time- 10 minutes, 30, sometimes even an hour. And he would leave a museum after being there a whole day, only seeing 4-5 works of art. For our final assignment, we were tasked to go to a museum and look at an artwork for 90 minutes. Uninterrupted. And then to write an essay about it. In my opinion, art shines under this kind of a light, and the "modern art economy" doesn't see art. They just look at it.
I remember hearing the comment that "art or painting is dead" in art school. As for the question of building an art experience in museums, the interpersonal relationship with the art piece has become more difficult with the big money influence. Yes, social media has poisoned the art well, just as it is killing families, communities, and our future. By all means support artists who are struggling, giving them hope.
I have observed that good art, ancient or modern,always has certain key attributes: a. Form, structure, or design that gives unity to the piece. b. Careful attention to details c. A sense sense of completion (even if some raw edges point you to the idea of incompletion.) in modern art the details may consist of subtleties of color or texture created by layering paint ( Rothko) or how accidental drops of paint fall in patterns that keep suggesting themselves. The sign that you value a painting is that you will always want to see it when you are near the place it hangs. It “speaks” to you and you may not know why. This has nothing to do with money anymore than the first reason a painter paints has to do with money. Good art enlarges and intensifies life so you can see and feel it more clearly and yourself in it as a participating component.
I am inspired by your words. I am an artist and in the past few years, I haven't been drawing that much like i used to. Before, I always join trends and art challenges. Though it helped me develop my skills, I slowly realized that I was not doing it for myself to express but rather doing it to please the audience/my target consumers. Social media taught me that art is only about how it "looks" but never about how it "feels" when you see it. I honestly felt disgusted with myself and promised that I should learn how to appreciate emotions in art first before i start drawing again.
I think this video brought up a lot of good points. The business world of art has so many problems with it and is very often used only to secure assets. And many times the price of a work is more dependent on the name of the artist than the work itself (which becomes really obvious with the NFT market). But. I think this video suffers a bit from lack of nuance and some bias on what ‘good’ art is. I.e. he kinda instantly dismisses installation art as ‘art for Instagram’. But more often than not, artist choose to make installations to completely immerse the audience in art and create a contemplative headspace. It’s not dissimilar to hypostyle halls in art history. I use to work in an gallery, and currently work as an artist. I can honestly say that most people who go to museums, galleries, shows, fairs etc. are there because they love and appreciate art. They may or may not have an academic understanding if it, but that doesn’t make their love of it any less valid. Collectors tend to be a mixed bag. Some do start collecting because they enjoy art, some for the investment, and sometimes both. Anyways, overall a great video that brought up an important conversation
There are a lot of sweeping generalizations made in this video about why and how people enjoy art today. It is true that there is crazy wealth stored in art for capitalist gain. I don’t think that discounts how the 99.9% of other people enjoy art though. It’s a reflection of the time we are in as the wealth gap continues to grow wildly and there is a new billionaire made every day. Great artist and art lovers still exist, they just aren’t part of the 0.1%
I think you should explore more the “how to take it back” chapter. Yes investing in small artist is a good idea, but investing in local artists, that explore local narratives and that contribute to a local art scene is the ideal. The problem is that mush of art sensibility is centralised and western. You should also consider, the colapse of western ideology because of global warming. Art as a contributor to net emissions and a major polluter. And ultimately Art at the brink of new ideologies of solar punk. Yet in the current scenario of war, famine and civil unrest, why do we really need art? If the world is ending, should we paint it?
I would argue that yes we should. the problems you are describing stem from capitalism. Whatever the alternative may be, clearly letting profit be the main driver of our social capabilities of production has led to awful outcomes. Art is one of the solutions. Not only because art is inherently political, social and influencial and is a major driver of change, but also because how else to cope? Our problems are social, I will do my best to be part of the solution but it also has to be social. At the end of the day If despite our efforts the world burns I'd rather watch it go down while listening or playing music than being desperate. I would imagine a painter would also want to create a last piece, or admire old ones in a last appreciation of human culture
I've been a professional artist for over 30 years...there's absolutely nothing wrong with people spending money on art or treating it like an investment...sure, I like the self expression I get from my art, but let's not kid ourselves, a person needs money to survive & my artwork provides that...nothing I've ever done, or will do, is ever likely to command prices like anything an investor would buy...Lars Ulrich will likely never want anything I've ever done, & that's just fine, but there's nothing wrong with being a well paid artist who people fight over their peices either...I say more power to them...I hope that one day, even if I'm no longer around to see it, that just one of my peices is able to be sought after like these are, but I'd prefer it to happen during my lifetime so that I can get paid for it...but if all I ever do is simply make enough to keep a roof over my head, keep the bills paid & food on the table & not have to work a regular job, then I'll have done just fine in my opinion...so keep right on selling that art...beats the hell out of working for a living...
Ikr? Money has kept art alive...money enables an artist to create whatever they want without the worries of having to work a regular job in order to afford your art supplies, & pay bills & eat on a regular basis...I don't know about anyone else, but I like to 💩 regularly, & you can't do that if you're starving...
I liked this video until I saw Chapter 4, with which I totally disagree; hurray the unwashed masses are streaming into museums to at least look at art live themselves - would you have us all have the PERFECT experience with art at each viewing? How so you know all these folks are simply snapping pics for social media posts? Who are you to read others' intentions in their art viewing? Couldn't an initial surface level reaction to a piece of art open a mind into deeper inquiry? This level of snobbery turns off so many to participating in art + these institutions were created just for this purpose = for those who couldn't afford to have art in their homes, could now see these masterpieces in the public trust - and perhaps inspire some poor child into becoming the next Picasso, or Basquiat! Sheesh!
Good point Paul. It's quite possible that the masses of people we have streaming into the museums these days are the people who would never have thought to enter them in previous eras.
Why do they need to take pictures of themselves with the art though? If they want an image of the art, they can easily find a better one online. So they are not really looking at the art, but rather only there to virtue signal to their online world that they did something cool and "sophisticated." It's like kids going to coffee shops to feel like adults with serious concerns.
ALSOOO there's nothing wrong with appreciating art at surface level. it depends on the individual person. I'm growing tired of videos like these attempting to gatekeep how art is consumed
@@brushstroke3733 you don't seem to udnerstand the value of memories. humans are all abt sharing moments these days. if u value a moment, u share it with the world. virtue signaling has absolutely NOTHING to do with it (at least in most cases)
I recently followed a lesson by the architect Eduardo Souto de Moura, and he said something I found extremely enlightening: “Art is Art when it is unaware of its nature”. True art is not born with the pretence to be such, it just caters for a need to express oneself, to move, to capture deep feelings. This is one of the issues of modern art I think. Great video!!
I'm a game developer - I've always considered myself a kind of artist. I personally don't like the big flashy kinds of "art", like bananas taped to a wall, but I absolutely love seeing small works of art, like comic strips about anthropomorphic rabbits saving the world. Outside of games, I can't really vocalize the beauty of some pieces I've seen, but within my niche, I can often understand what a developer was trying to say - for me, games are a way of conveying a message. They're a conversation I'm having, either with the game's developers, or when I'm making something, with the players who will one day complete my work. Here is a puzzle, can you solve it? Did you break it in some unexpected way? Did you bring a bomb from a puzzle two rooms over to cheese the answer? All perfectly valid approaches, as far as I'm concerned.
I’ve always liked to draw. But I always compared my art with other artists whom I admired and, therefore, always felt my art lacking. Though I had family and friends who appreciated my art, I always felt that they were just being nice (because, what do they know -right). I did finally go to college when I was 27 and obtained a BFA in commercial art. I didn’t make any meaningful money at it, but was able to provide for my growing family. Ultimately, my life took an unexpected turn and I found myself restoring original comic book art, and have since gained a bit of renown in that niche market. Recently, I decided to digitally scan and photograph my entire life’s art portfolio, which ended up totaling nearly 700 pieces. I’ve since sat through a slideshow on my computer screen a few times and am pleased to have come to the conclusion that my art as a body of work does have value, because my art is ME, and I can see me in my art. While no one else may ever appreciate my art the way that I do now, it is of little importance, because art is truly a reflection of the person who created it and every person has value, regardless of whether or not anyone else ever sees it.
Maybe the larger question is: What is the relationship of Beauty to Art? Do we know what Beauty is? Why do we want it in our lives? Is Art the process of making art or the objects that stem from said process we 'think' are beautiful. Is it the 'thing' or the idea behind the 'thing' we want to posses? Like the Bard said, "... that is the question."
i think the over use of negative titles and the obsessive focus on what's wrong is part of the bullshit. i wish people focused more and give more airtime to whats good with art, thats how you do it kid
I went to the Moco museum a couple of weeks ago and I was so mad during my visit but couldn’t really find why, this video gave me the arguments and reasons I needed. So we’ll done, thank you :)
I see it a little differently in that art is not only alive, but that we are living now in the most explosive of renaissance of times, as a modern society, there are more expressions of art going on than ever before in human existence Being an artisan myself, I have been privy the benefits of the internet and search for art of every kind, shape, size and mediums just admiring the collective genius of artisans around the world. Every one of us as a species wants to be recognized for who we are as individuals, and truely devote inventors of art just want to be recognized for our contributions. .
I've binge watched a lot of videos like this today. My response is to remember what I saw yesterday...poetry not art but in the form of a Poetry On The Underground poster...a short poem by Seamus Heaney "In a loaning" that lifted my heart on the grim commute. I feel the same way when I come across a piece of visual art that speaks to me. All the commenters here saying they can't see the point of continuing to create should remember that you may never know how one of your works might affect someone sometime l. Keep on keeping on x
People of the Republic of Art! Thank you so much for all the support and especially the thought provoking comments. I genuinely enjoyed reading so many of these and reading about your perspectives, especially when they may differ from my own. This channel is not about me; it's about art and the many perspectives, philosophies, and opinions we all have about art. I hope in the future to work with other creatives and working artists to have their perspectives featured on the channel as well.
When I posted this video some 10 days ago I had 200 incredibly supportive subscribers who took a chance on a tiny unknown channel; I want to thank you all for that support. It's incredible to see how this video and channel have taken off as of recent. I previously made it a point to respond to every single comment on my channel, but right now that seems like a daunting task. I am going to do my best there, so please bear with me.
I'm working on a few new projects that I hope to get out in the coming weeks so stay tuned for that!
Lastly, I'll say that some of the most thought provoking comments I saw were regarding Chapter 4. When I wrote that chapter my intention was to dissect what I see as a cultural shift in how art is appreciated and what role it plays in our lives. I hope that came full circle in chapter 5, but I think there may be a whole video on that topic in the future. There's always nuance and it's great to hear your positive experiences with people who love art for art's sake... l'art pour l'art! Fair to say I was too hard on the general consumer of art, but it's only because I want to challenge us to see things in a new light. We do not have to stand idly by and watch those full of greed and self-interest take all the oxygen out of the room when it comes to art.
Let's take it back!
It's happening like that all over now. The ultimate emptiness of such types is being reflected, just as it always was going to be. Only truth (s) remain, first basic law.
I don't think you were 'too hard on the general consumer of art' in this video. The ones you were justifiably hard on (in my opinion) are the *most* *visible* consumers of art today -- who may be roughly the same as today's 'general' art consumer, but not necessarily so.
have you watched "The Mona Lisa Curse" by Robert Hughes?
...what a terrible video. An almost 3 minute "introduction" with a bunch of stupid music...and camera angles that someone thinks are cool. Eliminate all that crap and simply tell the story...perhaps then I could learn something without having to tolerate 3rd rate graphics and more stupid music.
Sry but I just have to correct you art as allways been involved with money even before the medici's all the great classics were thanks to great artist being comissioned by the church or some rich patrons so even thought it may seem like a new thing for us it as always been that way and the freedom of the artist as always been in the hands of those who comissioned so I do apreciate what you are saying but in the world we live in we would need a "great" shift in how art is looked at because its been in this situation for ages, not saying that independent artist haven't existed alongside this whole time but that never made so they were able to maintain a stable living but yeah good video nontheless!
Having a home filled with original unknown artists is more interesting than a home full of prints from popular artists. Visitors always find it more interesting and so do I. I agree with your last segment.
*buying a print of a living artist’s work helps support the making of their original work.
😂❤️
A good quality custom framed print is also just as expensive as buying and original from an unknown artist in many cases. I'd rather spend money on the original.
Just having a wide collection is appreciated no mater famous or not.
Having a home filled with my own original art is more interesting than a home full of Prince, a popular artist. Visitors always find it more interesting. And so do I. Though he did make good music.
Art is exploited, but it's never going to be killed. Anyone wanting to express through a medium is quintessentially an artist.
Art isn't dead,Its just hard to find rare artist out there who hasn't shinned themselves from the world
people are exploited
art is untouchable
I think AI stands a very good chance at killing art. All these image generators pumping content out en masse will only start drowning out real artists more and more
Exactly. Artists make art.
The term art has been skewed. Being a drill rapper/singer is not being an artist. Anyone can say what they feel, but not all can paint as they feel
I’m Chinese. An art teacher. And that painter who hasn’t been able to make it a main career. From a relatively wealthy family. Who had the privilege of studying art at the best art school in the world. And this video hit home to that lost and confusion I’ve felt about becoming an artist since studying art. I learned about the most amazing truths and beauty and value about art in school, yet when I graduated I was left knowing those who don’t understand that value are the ones giving art value. And those people are my family and members of their social circle who love me, but most of whom only care about investment and see my value in studying art as a way to pretty up one’s, esp a young woman’s, cultural resume. It’s a confusing time to be an artist, esp a Chinese one. Seeing the country’s rapid economic growth and globalization in the past decade, as a teacher I’ve been blessed to see parents being supportive of artistic careers on a much larger scale than generations before. But more design and still not fine art. the majority of the population still don’t understand art well, actually it’s more they don’t understand why it exists. So the price tag placed on them becomes it’s definition and value. Culture takes longer to catch up than economy. I rly don’t mean it to sound demeaning but I think that kind of it is the root of the problem here. it’s not the people fault it kind of just is a product of the country’s pace. That’s why I rly believe in democratizing art education. It’s only with understanding the beauty in not art, but appreciating art, that people will have the autonomy to make their own rules instead of following “logical” investment.
Absolutely! Thank you for sharing your story. I totally agree!
thanks for sharing your illuminating comment. in so far as value and art are concerned, with regards to preserving and propagating Chinese culture in what ways do you see that happening today? and how does the monetary aspect provably negatively affect that? is there an evident distinction or value mismatch that the cultural (present and probable future) value of the art/artist has to its price? if so is it possible that your perspective is just different from theirs, and that if one word to zoom out and objectively map or compare past and present value one might see that the opinions of those who chose to purchase and be custodians in the past have turned out to be right because in a Darwinian way some which had enduring ideas survived, while the rest went extinct.
don’t you think that is something to be said for valuations from art buyers who often have an art history background so are able to embed the historical cultural approximations into the price signal - whose expertise is then trusted by those lacking it but are in the position to then follow “logical” investment. money and taste or cultural awareness are seldom in a singular individual.
and lastly, is there a chance that it’s a problem of conflating art with just existing in one medium (classical or ornate archaic tools) in this case painting / sculpture.
The notion that culture follows economy is a Marxist train of thinking. It is however true to an extent I think with China. I’ve lived there for four years, did an exhibition there too and worked in art education. Unfortunately, I don’t have much hope for art in China. I actually think democratising it in education is not only a huge challenge but actually is counterproductive. It should be for a specialist and dedicated elite. To democratise it in education will only be to serve government ideology because any democratic process is with Chinese characteristics. Which therefore means a boundary. The boundary is no criticism of power. The autonomy should come from expression, but this is impossible without political change. The best outcome may be to encourage craft skills, and artist networks. Art appreciation in China is largely in two camps it seems; the educated ‘bourgeois’, usually young artists that studied abroad, and the traditional Chinese paintings, or traditionally influenced Chinese art with some contemporary aspects. The bridge between these two is vast and really it may be best to form a new camp entirely.
Capitalism really ruins everything doesn't it? 😮💨 it turns value into commodity thus robbing the actual value in lue of a price tag
@@smileyp4535 mind you that’s not without a consensus! furthermore why is it only robbed of value? why isn’t this actually earning it its value in a darwinian sense and subsequently being a custodian of it? 🤔
Professional artist here… The struggle is freaking real. Dedicated my whole life to painting/drawing/printmaking, went to University and participated in a few exhibitions… Having that said every two or three months I find myself in crippling financial anxiety crisis cause I can‘t seem to earn enough to support my living (and continue producing new pieces). Way too often it was a choice of re-stocking my supplies or paying rent. Which by the way almost made me homeless this year. I am deeply connected with my work and it simply hurts me immensely that it can‘t make it this world… Makes me feel like I have no purprose here.
I had a great art professor in college who told me that as artists we have to find something to earn a living that allows us to do what we have to do (create). If that means working as a bricklayer or hedge fund manager then so be it. It's the main reason I think he became an Art professor. He was a metal sculptor and created huge welded sculptures. Only one person collected his work and he rarely got commissions. There's no way he could have afforded a foundry with all the heavy lifting equipment, plasma cutters, etc. that he needed to do his work. But as a professor he could use the universities' equipment and get paid on top of that. I took his advice to heart and I'm an Elementary School Art in the US. I get paid to teach little kids how to create Art, and I mean Fine Art not pasta glued to a piece of construction paper. And I have access to a kiln, papers, paints, the whole lot. Now, I'm technically not supposed to use the kiln for personal work, or any of the papers paints pencils and what have you, but my Principal pays very little attention to me so I can get away with quite a bit lol.
I dont know if you've tried this but try leveraging social media to get more exposure to your work. Make some time lapses and upload to RUclips as a kind of journal of your work. People love to watch someone in their element working on their craft. Make shorts for instagram, tiktok, youtube shorts and longer videos on RUclips. Consistency is key and it can really boost your work and you'll start gaining followers who are willing to buy your work and if your channels get enough views RUclips, Tiktok, and Instagram will actually start paying you for your views. Then when you start gaining enough followers start a Patreon or even do commisions if you want. I've worked with an extensive list of top Creators on all platforms and i see exactly that in every case. I hope this helps. Don't give up.
I've been creating since I was a kid. I always had to put my art on hold either working or my husband's sucking up my energy and inspiration, until most of my life is gone I've sold some things I've made but to my friends. I have spent the past 3 years doing nothing but painting.... I have hundreds of paintings right now. I don't know what to do with them, I don't know how to go about selling them. I do not want to do it on social media, it's totally saturated with artists all talented. But my own struggle has been real, if not different than yours. I truly need to make it, more than I care if I sell it. I wish I could make a lot of money with my art, but if I did it would probably be after I'm gone.... Isn't that when someone's art makes the most money? I'm pretty sure that the largest sums of money paid for art were never to the artists!
@@rhonnachurch6929 If you know any other artists around you mybe you could pool your resources to rent a space in a strip mall or a booth at a craft show or fair and display your work there. I've thought about leasing a retail space in a mall or strip mall myself but I always get sidetracked and forget about it.
Capitalism is the real problem nothing gets better if it's still in a scarcity economic mindset
It's sad, but one of the first questions people usually ask me after looking at my work is "what is your art worth?". I say "it's worth nothing until someone decides to pay for it". Then they'll correct themselves and ask what my asking price for it is. It's just depressing that people automatically think in dollar terms when assessing "worth".
EDIT: Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who has commented in this thread. Thank you for a very enjoyable and vibrant discussion.
This is 'our America'. Everything is valued by its monetary worth - even people, sadly.
I agree..art is dead..the sad part is modern art is shit..500 years from now if people are still here they will look back on this time as decadent and irrelevant and they will be correct
It's so sad how people base somethings worth on how much it costs. Its like supreme eventhough their clothing isn't all that special its somehow worth a damn because it costs so much money to buy.
People only care about something if it's exploited.
People get offended when I tell them “these are just for show, not for sale”. They just leave the room as if the art suddenly lost all its “value”.
@@peaoat3608 that`s because they think you`re pretentious if you do anything just for the sake of doing it..like reading a book
as an amateur artists, I can say that some people this day mostly care about the aesthetics of old art but they are less interested to find a real hidden gem in small artist's artworks.
As a retired person on a small income, fine art is out of my reach - I was lucky enough to take several semesters of art history in college, and have supplemented that with my own research into artists or art movements that attract me. My current pleasure is to find landscapes and still lifes in thrift stores that I find interesting, fresh and without pretension. Some are technically good, most are mediocre, but the enjoyment of the artist for the subject shines through and I keep a little gallery in one room, filled with paintings and prints of trees, flowers and sky. I enjoy seeing them, and add to my collection occasionally. It brings me much happiness at very little cost.
Keep searching, there's a lot of good unassuming work out there
As an artist I think what you do is beautiful, so many people have no real appreciation for art.. They look at the paintings and might appreciate or less the technical skills, but they don't know how to enjoy it, feel it, get filled with it! I stopped giving away my paintings once I understood that most people are just interested in art, if it has an important name attached to it.. so now I keep them for myself and very selected few!
amen ksk. thanks for supporting us as you do ❤
@@inessavinessa2984 probably the best approach really
Love you and your approach
As someone who went a an art school designed for the gaming and film industry, this video resonates with me. The issues that you described in the video are the same ones that led to me dropping out after the first year. The pressure to create content at a rapid pace as if I was a factory worker destroyed my likeness of art and the happiness I felt when making pieces. In no way to I resent those who create for these industries, but the very foundation of art and the history of its application seems to be completely lost in the high speed visual market. I am slowly finding my way back into my personal artistic journey and I hope to go back to study art history and figure drawing in the future and this video has helped me find some clarity in this turbulent time. Thank you!
What are you doing now? I'm also interested in art but I don't plan to go to school for it.
@@notepadplusplus4923 You can learn by yourself actually. The only thing you need is diligence. There are cheap online atelier-style drawing courses that help compared to expensive art colleges that destroy creativity.
I graduated from film school and I ran into the same problem as you. I am currently creating personal art that may not be connected to serving the industry.
Unpopular opinion. Art in beforetimes was classist and inaccessible. It’s the same now. There were so many people whose creations were not prized or whose creations were stolen. The collection of beauty has always been for the powerful.
Correct, though there has always been folk-art and a lot of the best great art was ironic or subtly criticized the powerful or addressed "universal" themes - Rembrandt somehow managed to evoke human frailty, consciousness, dignity, suffering and so on.
That isn't true at all. Art always was for everyone. Art and artists were considered a trade craft. They were paid for just as a carpenter, a plasterer, a tailor, etc. Very very very few were considered wealthy throughout time. Those whom we consider masters we do so only because of their patrons. Michaelangelo didn't paint the Sistine Chapel because he was the best. He painted it to avoid being prosecuted for forgery. At that time they had discovered some ancient Greek ruins. Which that art was well sought after. Michaelangelo carved his own, covered them in yogurt then buried them. A few month later he dug them up and sold them as originals. Two peices he sold to a man whom then became pope. Artemisia was a far better painter. But they would have had to pay her. So she went on to Spain to paint the Spanish court and teach people like van dyke. DaVinci wasn't a great inventor and he wasn't a great anything. Everyone of his time knew he stole Taccalo's two manuscripts from his two published works. Hence why he never finished anything. Because he didn't know how. He was laughed at and passed over time and time again. Until a French king felt so sorry for him he took the old man in and allowed him to die with dignity. The Mona Lisa displayed publically since DaVinci's death and no one could give two shits. It wasn't until it was stolen and made the papers daily that through the mere exposure effect the Mona Lisa and DaVinci became a household name.
We know these names not because they were rich, important, powerful, etc. We know them because of tragedy and mistakes. They'd the mere exposure effect we fall to or knees and call them masters when in reality a great many were far more talented and fast more available. Artists were hired to paint the walls of homes, family portraits, tapestries, etc. Art and the artist was everywhere and available to all.
agreed.
This is only true if you only think art is only what is owned and traded by the rich. Don’t believe their lies and you won’t suffer any loss (in the context of art).
art has been a commoner pursuit for riches since b.c was b.c
We all need to stop and ask ourselves -- "do i like this art because I actually like it?" Or "Do I like this art because someone else told me to like it?"
Another unpopular opinion: if art is so accessible to the common people, how come so many people(other than artists) don’t want to pay anything for art? There are so many art festivals and such, and so often so many of those artists leave with all their art in hand. I personally believe it has more to do with the image art has.
This is long but bear with me on this.
Well, you're right and you're wrong. While it can be accessible to common people in certain ways, there are still subjective perspectives at play. With that subjectivity, societal norms, at least in the U.S., tends to put art at the lower end of the totem pole, creating a lack of interest or knowledge in the arts. With more exposure and knowledge of the arts comes better appreciation and understanding as to how much time and effort an artist goes through, allowing others to wrap their head around why a piece is expensive and so forth. Added on with how art is becoming more of a privilege for the rich to invest in and you've got yourself a societal stigma against one of the purest ways human beings express their inner consciousness. And it's cliché to say this but, in this economy? Most people are working-class and don't see investing in art to be something at the top of their mental lists. It's not something that can feed them, and whether it is of works they genuinely like or want to surround themselves with, why spend 20+ dollars on an art museum when you can get better, if not free, entertainment and activities elsewhere. Overall, I think the current day idea of what art is has become skewed common people into thinking it isn't obtainable and appreciate it less. Also, just because you create, doesn't mean people have to like/buy it.
@@melissachow390 it's accessible because of the internet, if it weren't instantly accessible and free, maybe people would have an incentive to purchase art
People would pay for art if it was affordable and not a luxury
@@dnjdsolarus yeah definitely agree with that! My explanation also works with art on the internet, and I was explaining under the context of art festivals/physical public art. But that is definitely another reason
@@dnjdsolarus free ?
As a Musical artist, I can't help but feel the same about the music Industry. That being said, I do buy artwork from my friends because, they make beautiful art.
If you want to fight this, buy from (living) artists who move your heart. Not based on money. If you feel you cannot afford this, ask the artist you are interested in if they will accept time payments and pay them off a little bit each month and when you are done collect your painting-sculpture-photograph etc. People are very willing to do this, we have bought art from living artists, and small antiquities from dealers with no problem. We have done this for many years on and off as we have been able to. Looking at art as a monetary investment is like looking at your young children in terms of what dollar value you can get out of them.
Yeah, too bad that art that also moves my heart is way too out of my bank account. Original art is effin expensive. It also tends to be extremely hard to get a hold of (limited production). 🥲 I try to support the ones I can buy buying trinkets, but I have to really like it for it just to collect dust.
-a fellow artist
Looking at kids as investments has been the Asian way since time immemorial. It's been proving well with just a bit of emotional damage as a tradeoff.
I approve time payment to artist, it's good way for normal people to afford exceptional artworks and support real artists.
So much this! I have accepted installments for my work before. I want it to be in the hands of the people who love it, but I'm also not willing to devalue my work by giving it away for pennies.
I send work for an exhibition the other day. Small works. The gallery contacted me and said my work is too expensive. He wanted to have an affordable works show for Christmas! He immediately put it out on WhatsApp that he's having an affordable works show. This after i send the works with a courier over thousands of kilometers. I explained to him that the 17 x 17 cm work took me about a week to make. Its on Belgium linen and framed. I'm sayin these materials and framing and transport to and from shows. There's a whole system one carry from cellphone to wifi, car etc. the costs are hidden and you don't sell all your work. I asked R5000. deducting costs it would mean about R3000 for a weeks work. That is a very low wage for a very developed skill. its definitely better to make arrangements to pay the artist off. This gallery and many clients wants high quality for a low quality price. I mean, i can produce a work in 5 minutes, 1 hour or a week. They don't want the other work though. They want the Rolce Royse for the price of an Uno.
I was born an artist, and I can remember crying my eyes out when I was like 8 at the art museum in Chicago because I realized all of these beautiful pieces of art were all sold or traded like gold after the artist died. It really hit home because I was a huge fan of Mozart and I know he died penniless even though his work was genius. Noone is ever appreciated in their lifetime, and I don't want to be dead when my art is being auctioned off in some New York gallery by guys in suits. That's not what my art is destined to be. How dare you (elite society) ruin the dreams of an innocent creative child simply by existing enough that she recognizes your evil and will not partake in that system. I give my art away to friends and family as gifts, and when I do sell art I make it very clear that my soul is infused with my work so to please respect it like you would an old friend.
I had this moment of realization when I was sitting on my bed, thinking about all the time I spent in art college and outside of it trying to get recognized through my hard work before moving over to thinking about Van Gogh's life. How he basically tried to sell his art for literal pennies and still people turned their heads from it despite how much heart and soul was evident in his brushstrokes and atmospheric works. How he practically broke down mentally from all this and still was nice enough to take the fall for a kid who accidentally injured his ear, leading to the infamous tale. He died starving and yet his work sells for millions now. Everything hit me like a truck in that moment and I just broke down crying and bawling on my bed, saying to my parents "Van Gogh was only able to sell his work because he died". That was such a soul-crushing moment for me even to think back on. I try to turn my perspective on it now, that if that is how things play out, then I will just continue to make art on my own, for myself. If I gather a crowd for it, great! I want my work to resonate with people and perhaps inspire them. To turn it over to a vapid part of society which sees nothing but investment in it, to hell with them! I'd rather be free to express my own desires, fears, needs, and spirituality through my work. No one can stop me!
What a sensitive kid you were❤
I had this exact revelation at 10 or so. It was very soul crushing to see most great artists starving to death, even loads of scientists suffered the same fate. This world is really unfair to truly valuable, vital work. They just appreciate some nonsensical jobs that produce nothing.
Art is born from passion and truth. Until the artist with true passion are creating art and taking risk nothing can go wrong. Passionate artists will keep on creating with a desire to create weather commercially successful or not. And the time will decide......
artists can be multi faceted. you can be dedicated to your passion meanwhile also being a business person & selling your art to profit off of your hours of hard labor.
Passionate artists will keep on creating with a desire to create weather commercially successful or not. And the time will decide......
@@artist_aquar nah its too simple to say that, remember they got to live 😭😭😭 Mozart died poor even though now hes considered as a legend, its not that great you know 🤣🤣 so yeah he will keep on wanting to create but the commercially success is still important i think
Wait does that mean that the portrait of the king Louis fourteenth is born from passion and truth? Or on the opposite, does that mean its not art if its not born from passion and truth?
@@coussin6869 I don't know, do you believe in destiny? Even if you don't believe in destiny, you can guess that we exist with a universal software (programming). If financial success and career success are promised in one's software, one will achieve it. difficult to reach if not promised. If you know these facts, you will be comfortable with everything. Look at Matisse's work. Matisse couldn't paint very well. However, success in the worldly life was promised to him
I actually have studied art history this year and i have to defend Duchamp with his urinary. Let me explain. The context was that Duchamp along with other friends were protesting against galleries that needed an evaluation for art to be accepted and so they created an expo where you only pay a little price and you can show your art. And so, Duchamp without his friends knowledge, bought an urinary, wrote the date and send it with the money. When he arrived to the place that same day, there was chaos. Some people were completely against the idea of showing the urinary and others defended it because it had paid the fee. In the end it wasn't shown but that debate, over what is or not art and how far we can take it is the meaning behind Duchamp's urinary. But because of this debate created with a basis behind it, we now have an excuse for everything to be art. A classmate once said: "It has meaning if you are the first but after that I could just show this pencil I have, say that the meaning is too deep for others to understand and it works but not becouse I believe in it but because another person has made the hard work of deffending it"
I apologize for any tipos, a non english speaker here!
I have a deep love of Duchamp and the Dadaist movement. Agree with the first time thing as Duchamp was making a point and others making the point over and over make the point lose some of it’s power. One does need to know the motivation and context behind a work to evaluate its meaning which can feel inaccessible tho
Duchamp called himself a „non-retinal artist“ and I think that is important.
What was happening at the time is the strategy of retinal art meaning art of the visual Sense.
Realism, Impressionism, even cubism were retinal strategies. It was about seeing things. Visual aesthetics.
A poem is not just about rhythm and rhymes etc. the best poetry points to an invisible world. The best art IMO also does.
And religious art traditionally was about pointing to invisible things. Christianity was very much influenced by Platonism in this regard. And Hindu religious art is very much about trying to depict invisible energies represented by gods and goddesses.
In Western culture today it is still dominated by retinal art strategies of beautiful material objects to be bought and sold etc.
I prefer the Duchamp strategy because I am interested in invisible things. But that might be about painting, sculpture, poem, found objects etc. what every way I can help make invisible things understandable.
I am not against craft and nicely made objects. But with out the intention trying to point to invisible things „non-retinal“ things, art looses something essential.
His message was eternal, groundbreaking and true. Art is whatever you want it to be.
Duchamp was a troll not an artist.
Thanks for supporting artists, even those that might be unknown. I'm a children's book artist in Canada and my books sell like crazy to kids. My art is slow selling, but I avoid the gallery system. It is most definitely filled with crooks. Very few who get into the gallery scene will make any money and most have horror stories to tell about how they were ripped off by gallery owners and dealers. I've sold lots of art in restaurants, coffee shops and even a few paintings from a gelato shop. Help out new businesses by hanging your work there. You'd be surprised how supportive people are. Just make sure you get insured and have proof that you've hung the work there.
I am glad the art faculty leader didn’t allow me to study art , reasons only known to her. I have hidden in my studio making art for the last 5 years after quitting my job to focus on more creative pursuits. Recently I got a shop and placed all the art I have been creating for many years. I get blown away when I sell an original painting, I am baffled and truly humbled when people love and buy my art. I am so grateful,especially recently reading The artist van Gogh sold only one painting in his entire life.
you said everything i couldn’t explain - the ugliest garbage thrown into a canvas was selling in the hundreds of thousands and the awesome pieces nobody even looked at. yes money laundering, pretentious understanding of an art piece to be known and served like a king by
the snobbish art dealer - you said it all!!!
Hoe moet ik dat weten maar dan nog als iemand het mooi vind en zeker diegene die ik maar voor gemak ART noemt ,vind ik grandioos,denkt hij aan mij ,trouwens waar waren zij dan te zien heb ook geen uitnodiging ervoor gekregen ,maar dan was het voor mij ook te ver als het is tentoongesteld in het buitenland en zeker in Corona tijd ,nou verwacht een antwoord terug 😲
There are drawings i consider garbage but public opinion considers it masterpiece. People have opinions
This reminded me of the first time I was introduced to Pollock's work and my teacher was like "Look at this, doesn't it make you feel something?" My mind immediately went to "Does this guy even know how to draw?" Of course, I'm not doubting the artist's talent today but if a kid can think like that then it says a lot of about society's value of "good" art.
Artist: puts time and effort into something >gets ignored
Artist: splatters some paint on the wall. >sells for one million at a gallery
i hate the modern art shit so much, don’t get me wrong creating the idea of emotion is cool, and espically for vent art, but it’s becoming just so much more popular than other art that tells a story and in a time where everything is boiled down to the simpiedt thing i just can’t stand it
As an artist I thank you for this video. I feel suffocated with the perception of today's world and its ways of expressing. What happened to art is an answer to what has happened to us, humans. Unhealed traumas, complex and forgotten insecurities answered with materialistic satisfaction and path to consumerism. Drive for the sake of it with an empty reflection and no means to growth as that hurts. I feel we must stare with eyes painfully open and notice all that life brings to our experience. Hugs from Poland, Wojtek
I went to MOMA in New York purely to see Starry Night my favourite Van Gogh painting and while I just wanted to stand in front and absorb it (I’ll likely never see it again unless it goes on tour) but I was constantly jostled and pushed aside by people wanting to take photos and selfies. It was so frustrating, but I do think the average selfie taker is much much less of a problem than the art investors who just want to keep accumulating wealth. Truly until we change our mindset away from capitalism this cycle will keep going.
We just need to tax free port and properties. I really want to see what the rich will buy next to store wealth. Colorful pebble?
One counteraction living artists can take is to organize and curate shows in local galleries. People do come and the work does sell. It gives artists something to work towards and keeps the public engaged. Don't leave it up to the big money establishment to give you the green light.
Exactly what I and three other artists are doing this year. We are lucky though that there is a tutoring place in our city that lets us rearrange the whole space to become an art gallery for a week. In my mind, government should do much more to provide places for creatives to connect with each other and their potential audiences and display their work. The private market will pretty much only keep going the way this video talked about.
As an intensively process-based artist, I can totally related to this. You are absolutely spot on! Also love your soundtrack. I will share this to everyone I know!
This video made me shed tears, money corrupts every single thing we do as humans. We need to fight with love
I can appreciate how this video is organized into "chapters", because this is a very complicated topic.
I honestly believe that it has gotten better for artists. Why? Because here we are on the internet having an important discussion about the future of art. 50 years ago, we would have to be in the "circle" of artists to have any impact. And for argument’s sake, that was very guarded until the last two decades. Although, yes, capitalism has given the rich and powerful the means to pervert the art world, it has also provided the incentive for technology to be created in order for us to communicate more easily. To share our stories, processes, and completed projects. Art is not dead, it is evolving. It isn't an easy change, either. For those of us caught in the wake, it can be painful. But like he said, there is hope.
Every day I find an artist online making art the way they want with a community they've built that is supporting them. Isn't that amazing? The power to create and share it how we want is now in our hands. It's up to us to take it and use it, rather than let the chosen few run away with it.
The creator of this video has already demonstrated the power that this technology has to carry a message and connect people. How will you use it?
Welll said!
Agree yes!..and social media with private websites, visual artists really are able to create their own visual culture which can in its own way rival and/or interact with established gallery culture...
Zou het niet weten heb mij eigelijk eerlijk gezegd er ook niet in verdiept, deze materie van Art was mij vreemd totdat ,eigelijk wil ik gewoon mijn gang gaan , zoals in de tuin altijd nieuwsgierig hoe kleuren en of het groeien ervan, hou van mensen en vooral de discussie hoe alles beter kan of moeten weglaten omdat het schaadt kan veel over dingen nadenken soms te veel tot aan koppijn toe of scheel zien van het te lang kijken en nu is mijn wereldje met teveel onrust het cirkelt maar rond terwijl ik juist de schoonheid van het leven zoek zien anderen je liever dood maar naar mijn instinct is juist zoeken naar Liefde , het ware Art van het leven hoe wij als mens moeten groeien en opgroeien in vrede en eens zal onze Creator zien hoe wij zijn Art hebben bewaard en lief gehad als rentmeesters waardig maar terwijl ik het type ben ik verdrietig 😞 omdat oorlog de vernietiging inluidt van zoveel kostbare levens ,hoe moeten wij het uitleggen bij de Schepper ,kunnen wij het wel uitleggen moeten wij zeggen SORRY ons blijft alleen vragen om genade voor onze dommigheid,graaizucht , maar vooral liefdeloosheid ,dus blijf zoeken naar LIEFDE , HOOP OP VREDE MET IEDER maar boven al VREDE MET GOD in de naam van Yeshua 🙏
That is true if you can pay for Facebook ads, Instagram ads, Google ads, a studio to make your art in (un less you are fortunate to have a house or apartment with enough space to not only make your art there but also to store it)
Not to mention that handling professional social media accounts is a job of it self.
It is possible to make a living out of art if you have those assets. But expecting to make more than the average 10k a year is just wishful thinking.
The good drives out the bad. Remove standards of quality and the rubbish will flow in. Very expensive trash now sets the standards of quality for young artists...many of whom can no longer recognize what makes art art.
Being an active artist who has filled my social media feeds with other artists, a lot of us are already shunning the algorithm. If you want to be truly productive, truly creative, you can't bow to an algorithm. The people who design social media algorithms don't understand what it's like to be an artist, and frankly, they don't really care. In my opinion, big, Instagram-worthy installations may be sucking the soul out of the art world; treating major artists like creative factories may be sucking the soul out of the art world.......but those artists contributing to those forms of consumption don't have to participate, and smaller artists don't have to fight the algorithm either. We can fight back against the algorithm and cold investors. I think we already are.
I'm starting to shun the algorithm as well too. I have an extremely small audience scattered across different social media but trying to update all of them all the time under the fear and pressure of losing traction day in and day out has nearly killed my drive to create art at all. When I do create art, it is only when I don't feel that pressure and I'm doing it mainly for myself. To see myself expressed in art and creating my own little world to escape briefly into on paper. It gives me an immense amount of peace and calm in an already-chaotic world which has not treated me well in the last few years. When I can't describe feelings in words, I put them on paper. It's one of if not the of the most important thing for me as a coping mechanism for my autism. I would rather go to art fairs and become a local artist with work that resonates, rather than cater to a crowd of millions by producing quick work like a churning meat factory.
I went to a prestigious private art school for four years and while watching this video, I kept reminiscing about the buyers who would come into our art sale only to seek out the most "well-known" artists and works which had no real meaning but were rather abstract painting with random colors splashed on and "safe" landscape work you could hang in an office. I only ever saw sales on my art when the general public came to view work the day after the high-class buyers/visitors left. The comments I often hear is that it connected with them on a spiritual level, or helped put into view a very complex feeling about something they are going through too. Those comments mean so much more to me than a quick spark of likes before my art disappears into the vast pit of the algorithm.
I sometimes wish I could quit posting my art on social media all together, just so I don't feel shackled to these unrealistic expectations set by society. However, one of the main ways I am even able to connect with the outside world or even my friends is through social media. It really does suck but when I do go cold-turkey on catering to the algorithm, I will let all my followers know or at least try to by making a pinned post of sorts. Let us fight this system together.
How do we fight back?
@@GloryDaze73 Just...... do you. Don't fight the algorithm. Art that can be done in enough time to post new and significant work every single day isn't worth sharing. The algorithm hates you as an artist and will sooner chew you up and spit you out. You're worth more than that. Just do you.
I love the hope that you brought at the end. Totally agree, to say art is dead is an insult to the small working artists of the world like me. It definitely lives 🌟 This was a beautifully crafted video. Thank you for sharing this message.
This video is WONDERFUL to watch as an artist. The music, visuals, narration, message, hope, and everything… So refreshing. This makes me wonder what you’ll think about NFTs.
the reality is people dont really want tp pay the artists
as an artist people want to give you 50 bucks for
workin on a piece for weeks
Yeah that is a big Joke, one reason why I don't do Commission's, could do 10x times more money with other thing's. What we should focus on is passive income trough prints or other things.
I have experienced this same thing many times!
Sucks don't it? I wish people that claim to love your work would consider paying something realistic for it !
Let me play devils advocate here: There are many people who simply do not have the money to buy a piece of art, which ultimatly is a decoraction, for 500 bucks or more. The audience you speak to as a artist with that kind of asking price, even if that price is totally reasonable and legitmiate for you to make ends meet, excludes huge swathes of people with that.
(And my estimate of 500€/$ could even be to low. If you say you work 2 weeks on a piece, to make any money with that, what are you asking for? 1000? 1500? I am sorry, but normal people cannot afford something like that.)
@@WorldOfSafari Sure, they can’t afford $3000 art once in a blue moon but they have no problem having expensive restaurant meals $300 several times a week and lavish vacations $5000 avery month and lot’s of expensive Gucci bags! Poor folks 😢 Hypocrites!
@@THEARTURLIVE People who do any off these things are not normal people. You cannot even afford that kind of live if you are inside the top 10% of a rich western country, not even looking as some less fortunate.
If your work can only be made affordable when rick folks are your customers, fine. But to then go and complain that poorer people dont unterstand/appreciate your business is disingenuous. Someone who barely earns enough money to life a normal life wouldn't have bought such artwork anyway.
Thank you for this video. Life as an artist today can often times feel hopeless, like a great abyss of a corporate dystopia, where we walk around a valley of unbought and unloved paintings and works. Myself, and fellow artists look around at each other, and wonder "Maybe our time really is over," or "Maybe we aren't as talented as we thought, maybe nobody cares about our art." As we struggle endlessly with making rent, or even buying the materials necessary to continue making art.
Your video, while stating a serious of truths that I already otherwise agreed with, or observed in the art world - has a very powerful potential: to wake up the countless thousands who have watched your video to what is really happening here. To fight against this grotesque seizure of human expression at the hands of corporate soullessness, and narcissistic trends. To go forth and buy the works of smaller, original artists, and reaffirm: this has value, not only financially, but to the human experience. To *my* human experience.
The question is, what's next? How do we take everything you've said in this video a step further? How do your suggestions at the end of the video, transform into action?
Nonetheless, as an artist, I thank you for this video. It was wonderfully produced, edited, and narrated.
@Leonhard Euler I can understand you from the other end of the spectrum. Unfortunately, I think it will only continue to be like that, so the best we can do is gather ourselves together, and keep pushing and doing the work for the sake of our passion. That's all there really is in the end, I suppose. Don't get discouraged my friend, just keep moving forward!
Best definition of art I know, "Art is anything done with quality" - Robert Pirsig.
“Art resides in the quality of doing. Process is not magic.” Charles Eames
@@eartherinfire I love that, many thanks
Okay, you earned my sub. I left art school in 1977 because I was seeing these things in their nascency: the gulfs between art and Art and "Art." That's why I patronize the AVAM over in Baltimore, to celebrate visionary art. Modern Populism will eventually root out the "old guard" mentality of today's feudalism, though probably not in my lifetime.
Probably not
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thank god you left the art world. Once elitists leave it then artists will get the money and help theyve needed.
@@christianalvarez2025 I have not left the art world
@@davideatwell6577 The comment you replied to was directed at the original post, not at you.
"Do we even have the attention span to-stand still long enough-to be moved by a piece of art?"
Nicely put.
Firstly: thank you from a ceramic artist in the pacific. As a girl from a workingmans background i studied art. However, artschool has only taught me one thing: it has changed from a meaningful expression coupled with true skills and passion to profanity without any skills at all. I am a ceramic artist with a passion in figurine making often using the 2D old master as a starting point to create it in 3D... it gives my art meaning and I love dearly what I'm doing. And funny that: people pick up on the spirit my pieces were made. So I sell... slowly but steadily. It is mostly those who want a piece of joy in their homes. Pieces skillfully made sometimes with a political twist, satirical and still delightful. That is my aim and it works. I wish I could make more money for the skills also involve time and trials, but I'm not under pressure. So I think we artists also need to aim at meaning and skill and forget about money. Because ppl pick up on the true heart and spirit and usually smell the piece made in the spirit of greed. 😊
"Money has never killed art". Nothing can stop an artist from creating. Without investors, many works of art are buried in the attic, destroyed by time. Money has never killed art, it has brought more people into art. We don't have to own art piece, but everyone can enjoy it.
The stark reality is: an artist needs to buy food, pay rent and all that like a plumber does or anybody else. So, if artists cannot earn a living from their art, they have to spend their time and energy in other ways than exercising their craft. Therefore, no money coming in from their art truly stops an artist from creating. It's a romantic and false notion to think, that artists need nothing to live in this world, only their passion for creating art. For you to be able to enjoy art, somebody had to pay either the artist directly for a painting or give the artist an allowance to be able to live, or the artist has to be married to a rich, supporting spouse or have other private sponsors. E.g. Van Gogh did not sell one work during his life time, even though his brother was an art dealer. However, his brother supported him financially, so that he could live, paint and buy the necessary materials. And what held true for Van Gogh, holds true for every artist today too.
Hey JJ, ever heard of starving? Because that can very much stop you from creating
pretentious af
*Without investors, many works of art are buried in the attic, destroyed by time*
How devoid of self awareness can you be? Most private art collectors do the exact same thing.
Art under capitalism, as in any society divided into classes, is the privilege of a rich minority. Most people don't have the time to really engage in it because they are overworked and exploited. Art stays restricted to small microcosm of specialists living on the alimony of rich mecenes. Capitalism has allowed a huge developpment of culture compared to medieval feudalism, but now in its senile stage of crisis, it is threatening to drag the whole society into recession and cultural regression. The task of the working class is to overthrow capitalism and unleash the potential creativity of mankind by the means of socialist revolution! Forwards!!!
Art saves; it’s beauty imbues a sense of passion and goodness to every person it touches and should be accessible to all, not esoteric to the rich, but grasped by the masses to help inspire something good within them.
The current state of the art industry is indeed corrupt, isolated to the few, nevertheless I hope that art reaches far and wide to quench the thirst of all that live in hopelessness and may it ignite a piece of hope to live a happy, beautiful and fulfilled life.
Living as a small artist in a ever growing and suffocating art market is extremely difficult, and the innumerable failures an artist encounters can often be soul crushing, but what raises my spirit from desolation is the process of creation, for it is the art of fulfilling. No matter what goes on, no matter where I may be as long as I can feel what I see in my paintings, it feeds my soul for another day.
As you have said in your video, an artist may never be able to make it big, or succeed in the industry, to go throughout their life creating yet garner no attention; but to the unknown artist such as myself, a little support can go a long way.
We all sympathise and admire historical figures such as Van Gogh, who was ridiculed and ostracised within the art community his whole life, yet fail to see that Van Gogh exists today, in the likeness of the unknown artist creating euphoric visuals with no one watching, to the small creators telling beautiful stories with no one listening, to the artist full of ideas yet remain starving. I hope that we can all help and support each other in our appreciation of art because supporting those passionate artist will in turn curate a passionate world.
If you made it this far down, I thank you for your time and I wish you all the success you deserve in the future💫
It is interesting to point out how some famous artists today, whose paintings are now among the most expensive, were poor and struggled to be accepted during their artistic life. Gauguin never sold one of his paintings during his entire life, check out how much they cost today... ironic. But these are special cases. Some countries on the other hand are more prone to be perceived by international investors and galleries as art producers than others, and education is always something considered. In developing countries you find talented people, but unfortunately costs for materials and art schools are too high, for a career that is reserved to people on higher economic levels. Anyway, the unknown artists I have met, they do art because is who they are... when you love something you find the way to do it
I still can't get used to the constant photos and selfies going on at art museums. I remember the days when cameras were not allowed, and standing so close to priceless works was prohibited. It really is all about "ME" now....here I am with a famous backdrop. People wander from room to room in museums snapping photos of so many works in a matter of minutes or seconds. It's sad.
I’m a new Abstract artist , sold my first piece to a buyer who doubled the asking price because the piece was so appreciated .
Count your blessings!
Believe me I do …..
@@roxannetomlin3113 I do believe you! Thanks for the inspiring example of law of attraction!
they may be few and far between, but true patrons of the arts are as discerning and generous as ever. i wish you luck and abundance 🧡
Beautiful video, thank you for this. I actually agreed with all the things which you said. Greetings from an artist from the Czech republic.
R. Crumb said it best in "Fine Artiste Blues"
"I quit my job I spent three months in bed
Thought I’d take up fine art painting instead
I got me a canvas and I got me some pain
Five minutes work is gonna make me a saint
Baby I’m a fine artiste
And maybe I deserve to be kissed
My paintings are famous and they’re worth lots of dough
Pretty girls all hang around my gallery show
I’m as good with my paintbrush as I am with my lips
Stick around honey learn some ass-thetic tips!
Baby, I'm a Fine Artiste
and maybe I deserve to be kissed!
Be bull-headed at what ever you do
Let that old ego come a beamin’ on thru
Tell him fine art is something he don’t know
And he’ll be that chump who floats you that dough
Baby, I'm a Fine Artiste and maybe I deserve
To be kissed
First I was a cowboy and then a guru priest
Any old thing just to keep my palms greased
I wear a white leather suit and some bubble toed shoes
Got a fifty thousand dollar a year case of the blues!"
What that hell is your point?🤧
@@mickysanchez5511 it's about the money and the possessions not the expression
@@mickysanchez5511 The point is that the gallery/museum art world has been corrupted by the collectors who are only buying art as a $ investment. They know nothing about the real value of art and apparently neither do you. The culture of corruption and moral degradation that we now find ourselves in is, of course, reflected in the art world.
im an outsider artist. i resorted to art for mental survival; it has been the best expression for the passion inside of me. this validated my feelings, my work and my status as an artist. thank you.
As a traditionally inspired artist , this is a harsh reality that we have to deal with now
I fell in love with art when I was very young. At the age of 13 I began tirelessly working on a craft I knew would yield little return. I’m 23 now, and it feels like I’m staring down an ocean. Small artist get lost in the sea of other artist, and it can be hard to compete to be seen in a world filled with so many amazing artists. I can just hope that some day I’ll be great too. Or that atleast someone feels that I was when they look at my work
THANK YOU for this video. It mirrors what is happening in music and other art forms. The monetization of everything will make us pay for much we have heretofore taken for granted and it will cost us in multiple ways - not only to see and experience various forms of art, but in the quality of the works we experience. Sadly, I believe the narrative has underplayed the danger. JR
Thank you for this video. Even tho I studied a different sector of art, cinema, I can see lots of relation to the movie industry, I participated in movie festival as a jury and realized that people acclaim movies so that their next movie can be acclaimed by those people as well. Its so difficult to enter the industry here in Italy if your not son or friend of somebody so it makes it a very closed world. Even more the public financial system look more at the curriculum vitae of the people involved in a project more than the project itself, the consequence is that few new artist can make their movie and those who been doing it for years keep doing so even sometimes creating repetitive work and poorly created with no creativity or expermintation. To not talk about the fact that many movies are made to please the public and generally keep proposing the same ridicoul plot. I been working 1 year on a short film, I've been doing it because I enjoyed filming, editing ect. but I always been aware that only few people will see it but I hope they will appreciate it so yeah I agree with your final message. Anyway Im glad I found your channel, would love to see more even in other sector of art like theater and cinema. Hope to help some day the people republic of art! Thanks and keep on with the great work! 🌞
Harold Speed in his book "The Practice and Science of Drawing" written in 1917 lamented the fact back then that people were producing rubbish under the guise of individuality trying to give their lack of training the illusion of credibility. If he wasn't already dead, seeing what passed as art today would kill him within minutes. Rubbish will always be rubbish. Good art should always be recognised by what it does to the soul, not by the name of an artist or a price tag. What a great video.
'People producing rubbish....the illusion of credibility '
That's like saying all rock music is rubbish because they don't have classical music training. People who expect visual art to remain bound to 19th century principals would find it absurd for music to do so. Maybe being more open minded would help.
I hundred percent agree with this. This is the reason why I wanted to go to art school because visually I was recognizing "bad art" but I didn't have the vocabulary to understand why it was so. It irritates me when people say anything could be art because it undervalues the true labor and hours one must put in to get good.
@@saxviars9749 Yes, any art of any age and style is to a great extent a craft. If an artist does not put in the time to learn and exercise that craft, he will never have the tools to fully put his vision across but perhaps he can get away with faking it. And if so, does that fake truly satisfy? One has to ask oneself: would one want a pilot who truly knows what he is doing or would one be happy enough with one who can fake a flight with the help of, say, computers? Maybe a far fetched allegory... but you get what I mean.
Thank you so much for bring this issue to the talk. I'm an artist and I find so hard nowdays... People don't care about the message that art brings. It's so hard...
Great video!!! I am an artist, and I think artists we have to educate more, the art lover, the viewer so we can create a art community far away from the billion’s art world.
Thanks for this! I rarely find any beauty, any 'Können' (The German word for art, Kunst, is related to the word 'Können', ability or talent) in modern art. I take very much pride in my small collection of pre 19th century japanese woodblockprints. They may not be expensive, but I own a genuine work from Hokusai, the one who made the famous Wave of Kanagawa (my print was around 400 Euro). I don't expect to resell it for millions, and honestly, even if, or better: expecially if prices went up so much, I dont think I would sell it, because like Marie Kondo says: "This one sparks joy"
Funny you should mention Hokusai, he is the subject of my next video!
@@PeoplesRepublicOfArt The novelist Antony Burgess said: "There is no substitute for craft...Art begins with craft, and there is no art until craft has been mastered."
What an eye opener! 👁 I'm so glad I found this channel.
I am so glad somebody is covering this-as a person who takes art as a true expression this started to shift drastically when I was viewing NFTs.This sort of put all of the pieces together- the music and edit is also so well done. This is content and creators like this are going to need protecting. If anything - the value of art is being protected through information like this.
I agree with you on just about everything you talked about except maybe the consumer part in chapter 4. As a traditionalist in painting, still trying to keep a modern edge, I've always valued the quality of work. I know plenty of people who felt that way too. I would agree with you that the popular masses in fact do what you're saying no doubt. I work in a museum and you'd be surprised how many people are passionate about the process. I guess it just depends. Great video though. Thought it was hella spot on and considerate of many things I think about especially working with art everyday.
Plus, even among the masses shuffling through the museum, it may even trigger something inside someone to go beyond simple looking.
people love the process. I can post a finished original and 9 likes. I post a time-lapse process video and it get 20 likes and a subscribe.
Ik zou zeggen kom eens langs om te vertellen over een baan / werk/ werkelijk inhoudt / en misschien ben ik helemaal geen geschikte persoon ervoor , kortom de uitnodiging ligt er en koffie staat klaar ☕️ of thee mij om het even ben benieuwd naar Uw stoute schoenen 😂 of ergens afspreken kan ook ,tracteer ik op koffie of thee ,misschien tot ziens 👋
As an abstract painter, I strive to improve my use of color, texture, composition, and movement in my work. Hoping for my viewer to enjoy and see what I wish to convey. Some pieces provoke curiosity others calm or energy. Each piece I create is distinctly different from what I did before. At 75 I just enjoy the process. Art and life is good. Tk you for your thoughts
Excellent track for the final segment… Aphex twin created a soul stirring song. That’s the part I love most about art. It’s when my heart and mind gently open while experiencing the work, bravo
Thank you for the enlightening, but sad commentary on the art world, however, I do appreciate the comments at the end, and it does make a difference to the little guy when you buy a piece art. For myself, I put a lot of conscious effort into the images I passionately craft in the darkroom.
Its extremely disheartening as an artist when you see shit like a banana taped on a wall that sells for 100,000 plus when you actually want to work on legitimate projects. In an “anything goes” level of calamity involving buying and selling art those who want to make a living cant afford to do so and have no idea how to make a living at it because there is no structure and viable customer base. So therefore there could have been some great work that the world got to see but many artists dont get the opportunity
As an artist who started after finishing my Engineering major, the key thing I found out about art appreciation and current phenomena is that people are not as educated enough to appreciate a work of art as they do other academic courses like science or math. I, myself only begun to appreciate the beauty of an art piece after I started my art training. So the people who are not as educated in art as an artist value art as they can do best: with numbers and dollar signs.
Have to disagree, you really don't have to be educated in art to appreciate it. Perhaps that's the way you learned to like it, but saying that anyone who hasn't studied art views it as only having monetary value just isn't true. Did you only see art as a financial asset before studying it?
Gotta agree with will here, that’s a pretty shallow perspective on all this. Maybe that’s what you yourself experienced, but you definitley don’t need an art degree to appreciate art.
Thank you for this honest assessment of the 'mainstream' art world. There are plenty of regional artists, like myself, who are not selling to a market but who do have a work ethic of integrity and a deep personal knowledge of the true role that art plays in all of our lives.
I absolutely love it when I find a YT channel that hasn't blown up yet, but definitely is about to because they make great and thoughtful content.
I love this video so much. Couple of weeks ago I noticed that one of the largest art galleries in my area were running a party one night hosted by some high-profile boujee fashion brand catering expensive wine and fresh oysters. At that same gallery they have the works of celebrated artists that died poor and destitute who would have condemned this sort of commodification of art. It's a shame that fine-arts or any art never stopped being exclusively for the affluent and wealthy even in the 21st.
Love your conclusion.
Art isn't something that can die.
It's just eclipsed by commercialism in the art market. But it lives wherever creativity is truly valued.
Its ironic to use 'the banana taped to a wall' as a contrasting example of art that isn't 'revolutionary, profound, expressive, informative, awe-inspiring, and amusing', when the piece titled 'comedian' is an installation by maurizio cattelan who is well known for being a satirical artist to poke fun at the irony of the rich. The title of 'comedian' hints of Maurizio's awareness of the comedic absurdity of its own evaluation on the art market, art dealers and their place within this system, and I think represents a power play as a creator to poke fun at 'the money that is killing art'.
Art is of course subjective however i find the comedian to be at least expressive, informative and amusing on a surface level of observation and light information on the artist.
I would suggest considering challenging the perspective of opinion on installation and immersive artists and modern art consumers. Of course people or influencers will use art as opportunistic material for instagram, however if an artist is utilising the tool of instagram and selfie-culture it doesnt necessarily communicate that their concepts are shallow for inviting that of their audience. Perhaps it can enhance the status of the user but it isn't one sided, the artist is utilising the audience as a tool for exposure.
Art is adaptive and representitive of the social, political and economic circumstances of that period.
If an installation or artwork is used as a backdrop for a selfie or to flex online, why would that be synonymous with an inability to reflect or appreciate the piece.
It is solely upon the individual to challenge their emotions and opinions when observing or immersing themselves in an artwork, so why would a modern installation be considered any less legitimate than pieces by Leonardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo, or Sandro Botticeli if it evokes expressions of the human experience.
There is evidence of human skill and craftsmanship everywhere we look on life, you don't have to be in an art gallery to observe this. Unless you are personally aware of the skill and time that goes into creating something most people won't appreciate the thing regardless because the perspective and knowledge isn't there and that's okay. Not everyone views artwork to analyse the technical ability of the artist, this is why art is subjective. People involve themselves in art to reflect upon what aligns with their values.
Cool video! Loved the mood and the pacing, and the fact it made me reflect on my own opinions and values. Thanks for that! 😊🙏
well written. Thanks for sharing I think you make very valid points.
you can still appreciate and value the idea of the piece, while believing the actual piece itself is just as trash as the other work that it's commenting on
Attention seeking pranksters like Maurizio are just that-playing pranks. Trying to say that it's an awareness of the comedic absurdity of its own evaluation on the art market is an attempt to rationalize vacuity. Any childish disruption could fit that bill; setting a shopping cart full of toilet paper on fire, dumping raw sewage on a plate, pouring honey on a pile of used diapers, spray painting a dick on the wall of the museum. Any kind of striking, unusual thing would be a power play as a creator to poke fun at the art market, art dealers and their place within their system. That does not make it revolutionary, profound, expressive, informative, or awe-inspiring.
I've seen art worse than a banana taped to a wall
@@dsdm2364 In my opinion, 'the idea of the piece' IS the art... not the physical form. But that's how I think in general and it is not a common modality.
I would like to add an observation to your video. As an artist and art collector. Who has a home full of both known and unknown artists. And my own work. About seven years ago I moved to the Silicon Valley. The tech industry now controls a great percentage of the wealth and commerce in our nation. These are very smart people who often make up to a half $1 million a year so imagine a husband and wife both pulling in 4 to 500,000 a year. Who live in a decent sized 2,000,000+ home. The problem is with the tech people. Because of their industrial education? They don’t support or collect art. I’ve yet to walk into one of these large 2,000,000+ homes that there is anything hanging on the walls except sometimes. One painting or two paintings that were painted by the wife or a family member! And not only do they not support art or culture. Because of them the prices have gone up so high in the areas that they were once galleries and artists that thrived like the city of San Francisco. That not only can the artist not afford the rent. But the galleries are going out of business and the artists have had to turn to other ways of survival. That is the best part of the NFT market I guess? Though it is affecting quality and perceptions of the intelligence, integrity and skill behind true fine art. But I also want you to know that every time I do experience this void of cultural support and appreciation for the intelligence of art with the demographic I live with. I give them a huge didactic speech. About what exactly they are doing and how it is harming our culture. Because without the humble works of artists throughout time. We would’ve lost entire civilizations and representations of unbiased cultural events.
My soul was weeping to watch this video but great content nevertheless & very insightful at that too. Ironically today's art/art market still manages to fulfill one of its functions: to mirror the zeitgeist of society!
So one should reflect on how ugly, superficial, and pretentious today's world has become. But with that said, I still believe in change for more depth and value not only in art but in every other aspect of life too.
Thanks for this video!!
In my art history class, my professor would always talk about really observing art, not just looking but seeing it. He said that many people go to art museums with a goal: to see every piece in the museum- and they end up leaving hours later after achieving that goal, but they don't have anything to say about the pieces they saw. He said that what he does now is go to a museum and find a piece that stuck out to him early on, and he would stick with it for a long time- 10 minutes, 30, sometimes even an hour. And he would leave a museum after being there a whole day, only seeing 4-5 works of art.
For our final assignment, we were tasked to go to a museum and look at an artwork for 90 minutes. Uninterrupted. And then to write an essay about it. In my opinion, art shines under this kind of a light, and the "modern art economy" doesn't see art. They just look at it.
I remember hearing the comment that "art or painting is dead" in art school. As for the question of building an art experience in museums, the interpersonal relationship with the art piece has become more difficult with the big money influence. Yes, social media has poisoned the art well, just as it is killing families, communities, and our future. By all means support artists who are struggling, giving them hope.
What a beautiful video.
The moment Lichen was playing in the background, you got yourself a sub.
I have observed that good art, ancient or modern,always has certain key attributes: a. Form, structure, or design that gives unity to the piece. b. Careful attention to details c. A sense sense of completion (even if some raw edges point you to the idea of incompletion.) in modern art the details may consist of subtleties of color or texture created by layering paint ( Rothko) or how accidental drops of paint fall in patterns that keep suggesting themselves. The sign that you value a painting is that you will always want to see it when you are near the place it hangs. It “speaks” to you and you may not know why. This has nothing to do with money anymore than the first reason a painter paints has to do with money. Good art enlarges and intensifies life so you can see and feel it more clearly and yourself in it as a participating component.
I am inspired by your words.
I am an artist and in the past few years, I haven't been drawing that much like i used to. Before, I always join trends and art challenges. Though it helped me develop my skills, I slowly realized that I was not doing it for myself to express but rather doing it to please the audience/my target consumers. Social media taught me that art is only about how it "looks" but never about how it "feels" when you see it. I honestly felt disgusted with myself and promised that I should learn how to appreciate emotions in art first before i start drawing again.
I think this video brought up a lot of good points. The business world of art has so many problems with it and is very often used only to secure assets. And many times the price of a work is more dependent on the name of the artist than the work itself (which becomes really obvious with the NFT market). But. I think this video suffers a bit from lack of nuance and some bias on what ‘good’ art is.
I.e. he kinda instantly dismisses installation art as ‘art for Instagram’. But more often than not, artist choose to make installations to completely immerse the audience in art and create a contemplative headspace. It’s not dissimilar to hypostyle halls in art history.
I use to work in an gallery, and currently work as an artist. I can honestly say that most people who go to museums, galleries, shows, fairs etc. are there because they love and appreciate art. They may or may not have an academic understanding if it, but that doesn’t make their love of it any less valid. Collectors tend to be a mixed bag. Some do start collecting because they enjoy art, some for the investment, and sometimes both.
Anyways, overall a great video that brought up an important conversation
really well done, enjoyed this immensely, as a small artist, i felt somewhat inspired, thank you taking the time to make this.
There are a lot of sweeping generalizations made in this video about why and how people enjoy art today. It is true that there is crazy wealth stored in art for capitalist gain. I don’t think that discounts how the 99.9% of other people enjoy art though. It’s a reflection of the time we are in as the wealth gap continues to grow wildly and there is a new billionaire made every day. Great artist and art lovers still exist, they just aren’t part of the 0.1%
I've been an artist and have studied art for well over 40 years. Your observations are spot on. Thanks for posting.
Money always kills anything. Or might I say… Once businessmen get involved, everything goes downhill.
My first experience with art was with my mother's paintings. I still appreciate her art more than any of the popular artists I've seen
I think you should explore more the “how to take it back” chapter. Yes investing in small artist is a good idea, but investing in local artists, that explore local narratives and that contribute to a local art scene is the ideal. The problem is that mush of art sensibility is centralised and western. You should also consider, the colapse of western ideology because of global warming. Art as a contributor to net emissions and a major polluter. And ultimately Art at the brink of new ideologies of solar punk. Yet in the current scenario of war, famine and civil unrest, why do we really need art? If the world is ending, should we paint it?
I would argue that yes we should. the problems you are describing stem from capitalism. Whatever the alternative may be, clearly letting profit be the main driver of our social capabilities of production has led to awful outcomes. Art is one of the solutions. Not only because art is inherently political, social and influencial and is a major driver of change, but also because how else to cope? Our problems are social, I will do my best to be part of the solution but it also has to be social. At the end of the day If despite our efforts the world burns I'd rather watch it go down while listening or playing music than being desperate. I would imagine a painter would also want to create a last piece, or admire old ones in a last appreciation of human culture
happy to have found you, amazing video, thanks for ending it with aphex twin
It’s not money that’s the issue. It’s the lack of appreciation
I've been a professional artist for over 30 years...there's absolutely nothing wrong with people spending money on art or treating it like an investment...sure, I like the self expression I get from my art, but let's not kid ourselves, a person needs money to survive & my artwork provides that...nothing I've ever done, or will do, is ever likely to command prices like anything an investor would buy...Lars Ulrich will likely never want anything I've ever done, & that's just fine, but there's nothing wrong with being a well paid artist who people fight over their peices either...I say more power to them...I hope that one day, even if I'm no longer around to see it, that just one of my peices is able to be sought after like these are, but I'd prefer it to happen during my lifetime so that I can get paid for it...but if all I ever do is simply make enough to keep a roof over my head, keep the bills paid & food on the table & not have to work a regular job, then I'll have done just fine in my opinion...so keep right on selling that art...beats the hell out of working for a living...
Exactly. I don't think this bozo realizes "art" is also a skilled trade and done as a means to put bread on the table.
Ikr? Money has kept art alive...money enables an artist to create whatever they want without the worries of having to work a regular job in order to afford your art supplies, & pay bills & eat on a regular basis...I don't know about anyone else, but I like to 💩 regularly, & you can't do that if you're starving...
Art isn't dead. It stays alive in the hearts of those who truly appreciate art and create it as well. This life is essential for so many.
I liked this video until I saw Chapter 4, with which I totally disagree; hurray the unwashed masses are streaming into museums to at least look at art live themselves - would you have us all have the PERFECT experience with art at each viewing? How so you know all these folks are simply snapping pics for social media posts? Who are you to read others' intentions in their art viewing? Couldn't an initial surface level reaction to a piece of art open a mind into deeper inquiry? This level of snobbery turns off so many to participating in art + these institutions were created just for this purpose = for those who couldn't afford to have art in their homes, could now see these masterpieces in the public trust - and perhaps inspire some poor child into becoming the next Picasso, or Basquiat! Sheesh!
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Good point Paul. It's quite possible that the masses of people we have streaming into the museums these days are the people who would never have thought to enter them in previous eras.
Why do they need to take pictures of themselves with the art though? If they want an image of the art, they can easily find a better one online. So they are not really looking at the art, but rather only there to virtue signal to their online world that they did something cool and "sophisticated." It's like kids going to coffee shops to feel like adults with serious concerns.
ALSOOO there's nothing wrong with appreciating art at surface level. it depends on the individual person.
I'm growing tired of videos like these attempting to gatekeep how art is consumed
@@brushstroke3733 you don't seem to udnerstand the value of memories. humans are all abt sharing moments these days. if u value a moment, u share it with the world. virtue signaling has absolutely NOTHING to do with it (at least in most cases)
I recently followed a lesson by the architect Eduardo Souto de Moura, and he said something I found extremely enlightening: “Art is Art when it is unaware of its nature”. True art is not born with the pretence to be such, it just caters for a need to express oneself, to move, to capture deep feelings. This is one of the issues of modern art I think. Great video!!
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message
He was right
I'm a game developer - I've always considered myself a kind of artist. I personally don't like the big flashy kinds of "art", like bananas taped to a wall, but I absolutely love seeing small works of art, like comic strips about anthropomorphic rabbits saving the world. Outside of games, I can't really vocalize the beauty of some pieces I've seen, but within my niche, I can often understand what a developer was trying to say - for me, games are a way of conveying a message. They're a conversation I'm having, either with the game's developers, or when I'm making something, with the players who will one day complete my work.
Here is a puzzle, can you solve it? Did you break it in some unexpected way? Did you bring a bomb from a puzzle two rooms over to cheese the answer? All perfectly valid approaches, as far as I'm concerned.
If you think paintings have it bad, don't look up what happened to music. But seriously, the world treats art very very very poorly.
I’ve always liked to draw. But I always compared my art with other artists whom I admired and, therefore, always felt my art lacking. Though I had family and friends who appreciated my art, I always felt that they were just being nice (because, what do they know -right). I did finally go to college when I was 27 and obtained a BFA in commercial art. I didn’t make any meaningful money at it, but was able to provide for my growing family. Ultimately, my life took an unexpected turn and I found myself restoring original comic book art, and have since gained a bit of renown in that niche market.
Recently, I decided to digitally scan and photograph my entire life’s art portfolio, which ended up totaling nearly 700 pieces. I’ve since sat through a slideshow on my computer screen a few times and am pleased to have come to the conclusion that my art as a body of work does have value, because my art is ME, and I can see me in my art. While no one else may ever appreciate my art the way that I do now, it is of little importance, because art is truly a reflection of the person who created it and every person has value, regardless of whether or not anyone else ever sees it.
Maybe the larger question is: What is the relationship of Beauty to Art? Do we know what Beauty is? Why do we want it in our lives? Is Art the process of making art or the objects that stem from said process we 'think' are beautiful. Is it the 'thing' or the idea behind the 'thing' we want to posses? Like the Bard said, "... that is the question."
Beauty tends to be a category of criticism, artists tend to think about creativity and quality.
Thanks buddy! You finished well, persevere through all the bull and keep on creating works that move you
i think the over use of negative titles and the obsessive focus on what's wrong is part of the bullshit. i wish people focused more and give more airtime to whats good with art, thats how you do it kid
I went to the Moco museum a couple of weeks ago and I was so mad during my visit but couldn’t really find why, this video gave me the arguments and reasons I needed. So we’ll done, thank you :)
I see it a little differently in that art is not only alive, but that we are living now in the most explosive of renaissance of times, as a modern society, there are more expressions of art going on than ever before in human existence
Being an artisan myself, I have been privy the benefits of the internet and search for art of every kind, shape, size and mediums just admiring the collective genius of artisans around the world.
Every one of us as a species wants to be recognized for who we are as individuals, and truely devote inventors of art just want to be recognized for our contributions. .
Totally agree. We'll said.
I've binge watched a lot of videos like this today. My response is to remember what I saw yesterday...poetry not art but in the form of a Poetry On The Underground poster...a short poem by Seamus Heaney "In a loaning" that lifted my heart on the grim commute. I feel the same way when I come across a piece of visual art that speaks to me. All the commenters here saying they can't see the point of continuing to create should remember that you may never know how one of your works might affect someone sometime l. Keep on keeping on x
Art never dies, it changes. People are sooooo melodramatic 🤣 art has been "dying' since the impressionists 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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sane comment in a sea of insanity
It's poetic
I love the title of this video. It’s provoking an emotion in me that I didn’t even know existed. 🤘👏
He's finally back 👀
More to come 🌞
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The music and the message wow. Really touched me. Thank you my brother
Building a parallel society to save art is definitely the way to save it. Nice vid! as gloomy as it was
This made me cry. I'm that friend who's passionate about painting but can't turn it into a career. It's tough.