Chess Lesson: King's Indian Attack

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @DragonbornRito
    @DragonbornRito 10 лет назад +30

    I love how timeless these videos can be. Uploaded 4 and a half years ago, and jrobi is still conversing with viewers.

    • @jrobichess
      @jrobichess  10 лет назад +4

      I like that about them too - chess is such a great game! I have a few of my older opening vids I am going to do an update too though, thanks for checking this one out!

    • @DragonbornRito
      @DragonbornRito 10 лет назад

      No problem! I've actually been watching your videos since 2012, but never commented for whatever reason. Glad to see you're still plugging away!

    • @believer1056
      @believer1056 3 года назад

      @@jrobichess hey buddy are u still here?

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад +1

    I get into a couple lines where the E4 is taken - generally it's okay for white when that happens but white will need to play sharp and watch out for trapping lines. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat 15 лет назад +1

    Nice explanation, but will there be any more videos out about the KIA? After all, getting into the position isn't the problem; it's coordinating your pieces afterward.
    I'm also a little surprised you didn't mention 1. e4 e5, which is, after all, black's most common response.

  • @ChesscomGames
    @ChesscomGames 13 лет назад +1

    The King's Indian Attack is definitely a solid opening for white. For more information I recommend checking out many of Fischer's early games in the 1950s and early 1960s. However, you've got to be careful with the move order because sometimes black can adopt a very aggressive stance by seizing a lot of space in the center and threatening to over-run white's position with a mass of pawns. Thanks for the video and I'll look forward to more!

  • @Thelibertarian1776
    @Thelibertarian1776 13 лет назад

    By far the most instructive and articulate chess videos on RUclips. The likes of
    Silman and Pandolfini would be proud; keep up the good work, man.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Not yet - need to get working on a CFC rating first to be eligible for FIDE. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад +1

    Thanks bibcath - I appreciate the feedback and comments!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад +1

    Yes you can get a decent game from moves like:
    1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d3 Nf6 4. g3 Bc5 5. Bg2 d6 6. O-O
    Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    There's definitely lots of options for the B1 knight as the game progresses. In some games the knight on F3 is taken and the knight on D2 recaptures. Others have it moving to C3 depending on the position. For general terms in the beginning, however, I wanted to emphasize piece coordination that white can work towards as the game progresses. The actual lines, however, include the most played moves from the start with the B1 knight included.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Those are definitely some top move options. To stay into the King's Indian Attack strategy with those D3 can still be played creating a fairly equal position and allowing the KIA player to get into the familiar structure. Thanks for sharing TheNoobyBanana.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out Bad - I do think learning book moves is very important, but only in the context of other training as well. Most GM information I have come across recommends learning your favorite openings in detail, and other ones a few moves in to avoid common traps. This is in addition to endgame, tactics, and positional play of course. Just learning openings exclusively wouldn't be sufficient.

  • @XDXD-nx2tb
    @XDXD-nx2tb 4 года назад +2

    Where r u ?? Come back

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    The King's Indian Defence is a great strategy from black - and you're definitely correct, it's very much a mirror image. White just gets to do it with the extra tempo. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @bibcath
    @bibcath 15 лет назад

    Another excellent video, you know I think your videos are getting better and better.
    I'm still at the stage where I am learning the names of the various openings and from the looks of it most of the time while playing white I do use some variation of the King's Indian attack.
    It is always cool when I discover that I have accidentally 'rediscovered' some famous opening or position. I guess that shows that my Chess reasoning skills are improving.

  • @nr1771
    @nr1771 15 лет назад

    At 13:26, I'm not sure I like the move h3, because if you'll notice, the g3 pawn is now undefended (the pawn on f2 is pinned to the king and can't recapture if the g3 pawn is taken). I think this is a weakness for white that black might be able to exploit.

  • @beloglavisup2
    @beloglavisup2 9 лет назад

    At 6:54 Black does not need to play Bishop, he can simpley exchange pawns ...de4, de4-e5. and put stop to White's light square Bishop

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    I will be doing some attacking chess in the King's Indian Attack like I did with the Dutch Defence - would be a bit too much for one sitting. As for the moves I went with the most played in each position, but there will be some side variations that will happen - but that's what's great about chess, getting to look into things and try new lines out and research them. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Actually yes it is - you can check websters online if you would like to see the official definition. I guess I am in the minority of people that use it but it's still considered official! =)
    Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out Than - that's an interesting idea on the rankings, but it might be hard to do because openings are generally a very personal decision as opposed to overall effectiveness in the game. This opening strategy is a great example, it doesn't see a lot of top level play anymore but has a very impressive track record. At some point I think this one will gain more popularity again.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking out the vid Malfunction! That's the Scandinavian Defence when black plays D5 to white's E4. Like you mention it's best just to take it. I have an older vid on it and am planning on taking another look at it in the near future.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    I definitely plan on exploring some middle game attacking lines with it - thanks for the feedback and checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    If it's the line I am thinking of white would recapture with the queen so the pawn on E4 is defended. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Didn't need it for what I was talking about but generally it would be on D2 as the lines show. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    There will be an attacking chess video - I want to look at a few top level games in the KIA. For E5, 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d3 Nf6 4. g3 Bc5 5. Bg2 d6 6. O-O is quite solid. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @Alientcp
    @Alientcp 15 лет назад

    pal, there are 3 different openings with similar structure, the one that you play is english opening 1.c4-e5 2.-Nc3.
    After that, it wont transpose into kings indian (knight goes to d2 instead of c3) but it becomes the reti opening (what you play) but with different move order.
    Reti
    1.- Nf3 - d5 usually, 2.- c4 and respond depending of black move dxc4, e6, c6 or d4. after that at some poing white do g3 Bg2 0-0.
    If 2 dxc4 then Qa5+ and recapture the pawn. the 3 ops, share common ideas.

  • @ShotDownInFlames2
    @ShotDownInFlames2 15 лет назад

    Thanks, jrob, great explanation.
    I've been seeing the various first moves of this opening from white but didn't have the overall concept of what they were developing. You've been a big help.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Most definitely - that's generally where it will go for the short-term in pretty much all lines with a few exceptions here and there. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @RainbowAceOfSpades
    @RainbowAceOfSpades 15 лет назад

    I also think the Kings Indian Attack Position is also a defence too. The rook on f2 prevents checks on the first rank and protects the pawn on f2. The bishop is used after the rooks are beign used and black checks on the 1st rank, It used as a check blocker. It also protects the knight. THe knight protects n2 which is a checkamte square. I call it the perfect defense. The only way to get checkmated is that the castle has to be broken.

  • @Aleneden
    @Aleneden 15 лет назад

    Thank you very much, I learn this once, but i couldn't remember how it goes, but thanks to you, i can relearn my favorite opening again. It was the first one i ever learn, and i liked it. Thanks a million

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    That's great to hear Anti! I will be taking a look at the King's Indian from black in the future. Thanks for checking out the vid and glad it helped!

  • @yamizain
    @yamizain 15 лет назад

    when i started playing chess i use to use the kings indian attack and defence all the time so i was very use to it. i use to be so good with it. but now i mostly use the Sicilian defence and the ruy lopez. but i still love playing it from time to time.
    ur vids are the best. thanx for uploading.

  • @TheMaskedNeville
    @TheMaskedNeville 8 лет назад

    I also used to play this when I first started - as it is good for beginners, you play the same set up against many openings (Sicilian, French, Caro) you get developed safely and castled, and you have a ready made plan (kingside attack). The only problem I found is that I don't think the KIA works against 1......e5 If you blindly continue trying to get the KIA set up you end up deadlocked, in a symmetrical position

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for the comment TheDude - I appreciate the feedback. I like the opening strategy as well.

  • @Clearerer
    @Clearerer 15 лет назад

    Another excellent video, I didn't know that much about the King's Indian Attack, I will have to do some more research on it!

  • @SleepingHero
    @SleepingHero 15 лет назад

    Yo Jrobi, I'm very new to serious chess, and every time I got into a match I would forget the openings I studied, wing it, and lose.
    I watched this video once, went immediately to FICS, gotta a quick match and DECIMATED. It was wonderful, my first real win with a legitimate opening besides "winging it after I forget what to do opening. I usually get creamed - this time I was in full control.
    So jrobi, thank you thank you thank you. Your videos are making me a better chess player for sure.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Didn't need it for what I was going over in the beginning but it's included in the lines. Wanted to emphasize general goals and piece coordination. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    White defiitely gets some dynamic play out of it against the CK - thanks for checking out the vid Davis!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Hope it's worth the wait Art - thanks for checking it out and I am looking forward to your feedback!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out Kevin!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Didn't need it for what I was talking about. Focusing more on overall goals at that point - but it's included in the lines I cover of course. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    I usually default to my last match video for rating - no USCF rating because I am not eligible for it. However I plan on playing for a CCF rating soon. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    My intro segment is my first chess game / video so most likely not very sound at all - but I use it for sentimental purposes. =)

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    @TheLorax11 It wasn't needed for what I was talking about at that point. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out csharsha!

  • @AlexRaxach
    @AlexRaxach 11 лет назад +8

    Can you please also say what are the ideas behind the kings indian once we have achieved the position and maybe some standard tactical shots that the position may have?

    • @jrobichess
      @jrobichess  10 лет назад +1

      Check out my attacking chess, King's Indian Attack, for just that kind of video. Thanks for checking it out!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out N!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking this one out Icrokis187 - I will definitely be doing more of those in the future.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Definitely - for example:
    1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d3 Nf6 4. g3 Bc5 5. Bg2 d6 6. O-O
    Thanks for checking it out lewiszim!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out andsanp!

  • @Alientcp
    @Alientcp 15 лет назад

    check que reti opening, its basically the same opening, but the lines after that are a bit different, but overall around the same

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out U!

  • @lLikeMaple
    @lLikeMaple 14 лет назад

    Dang this is no doubt one of the most helpful guides on chess I've ever come across... just wrecked my friend with this opening a couple hours ago after watching this video! thanks for the tips, please do more! :D

  • @J3m71
    @J3m71 14 лет назад

    I've adopted King's Indian as well. It's versatility is very attractive. Thanks Jrobi!

  • @Scredit
    @Scredit 13 лет назад

    @Rvrsbeartrapv2 i think the only option in that situation would be for a bishop to be on g4. because it pretty much delays 2 pieces. (unless you feel like losing a queen) but a knight on g4 would just make me move my knight to reinforce a different position and threaten the knight all together. and play from there.

  • @markmenser7508
    @markmenser7508 9 лет назад

    The e-4 opening is met by 1)...d5 and the KIA is over. I also note that black's knight can move to d4 once white's queen goes to e-2. I believe that white must make the prep move c-3 before moving the queen to e-2.

    • @Youtube_Globetrotter
      @Youtube_Globetrotter 9 лет назад

      +Mark Menser I played this as white yesterday. And the first 10 moves whent: e4 c5, Nf3 Nc6, g3 e5, Bg2 Nf6, d3 Be7, a4 d6, 0-0 Bg4, C3 0-0, Nbd2 a6, Nc4 b5

    • @IC86
      @IC86 4 года назад

      PLEASE play the Scandinavian in response to 1. e4! Sure it’s not the KIA anymore, but it’s going to be good for White.

  • @Daftpao
    @Daftpao Месяц назад

    Cool. Come back JROBI

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    I took it out at the intro to focus more on the piece coordination goals for white. It's in all the lines I go over, however. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @TheChessPlayer1956
    @TheChessPlayer1956 6 лет назад

    I have used the Barcza System effectively which as you know is the one where white does not open with e4 but sets the same KIA system. However, I like the e4 setup and I am going to try it out and see what happens in the practical struggle for me. Thanks for the video.

  • @JohnDarkSouls00
    @JohnDarkSouls00 13 лет назад

    I've been looking for a good opening to start with, this was a great video to show me!

  • @behi667
    @behi667 15 лет назад

    I'll be sure to try it. Great video as always. Cheers J!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out ivorjutt!

  • @zirtoc
    @zirtoc 13 лет назад

    I have come through a very strange metamorphosis of openings. To make a long story short, I have been playing the Pirc with black for quite awhile now, and tried using it with white. I enjoy it a lot - I didn't realize I was basically playing the KIA!
    Since I don't play e4 with a reversed Pirc in the opening, I generally end up ceding the center to black. I am very interested to try the KIA now that I've watched your video.

  • @AntiCitizenX
    @AntiCitizenX 15 лет назад

    Ever since I saw this video I've been experimenting with the KIA. I have to say, it is my new favorite opening for white. The versatility is amazing, and any black player who does not appreciate the opening is going to find themselves at a disadvantage just by sheer positioning. My skill has improved a great deal because of this, so thank you for the great video!
    Question... any thoughts on the King's Indian Defense from black's perspective?

  • @CarlosRojasCain
    @CarlosRojasCain 13 лет назад

    This is the most helpful opening video ive found on youtube! thank you so much! I subbed

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks Q - it's in real time for those big ones because I need to do them while I am talking. Sometimes I will do the smaller ones beforehand if I want to make a quick note on it. If I need to elaborate at all I will just do them while talking. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @Iodine1987
    @Iodine1987 15 лет назад

    pawn to c3 is more effective as you will find that black is forced to attack queen side with queens knight

  • @RainbowAceOfSpades
    @RainbowAceOfSpades 15 лет назад

    and the bishop also protects the pawn on h2 when it goes to h3 to threaten the bishop.

  • @leadstring66
    @leadstring66 15 лет назад

    every time i use this attack... i get that bishop to g4 or black tries to immediately take the pawn with d5

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking out the vid and I appreciate the feedback yamizain!

  • @llK1NGp1Nll
    @llK1NGp1Nll 15 лет назад

    when you're in a standard king indian attack position, something thats questionable to me is what the pawn on d3 should do if black takes the e4 pawn, if you retake with the d-pawn, wouldn't that pin you're own queen?

  • @TripleEvent
    @TripleEvent 15 лет назад

    Is the line in the opening of your video considered sound? 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 f6?! It just happened to catch my eye. I have never seen this line before.

  • @Iodine1987
    @Iodine1987 15 лет назад

    going back to that trap i just mentioned though you will see that Nd2 is a much safer move, look at this way: 1. e4,Nc6 2. Nf3,Nf6 3. d3,d5 4. Nd2,Bg4 5. h3,Bg4xNf6 6. NxNf6 .....

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    That's great SleepingHero - thanks for the feedback and here's to many more wins!

  • @ismaelhayden2916
    @ismaelhayden2916 10 лет назад

    what about pawn to d4 @ 8:56. In my games I found that I would often have to allow this in order to complete my KIA but would find that in mid game if would often cause me troubles. How would you respond to this push? pawn c3 perhaps...

    • @josefmalar7837
      @josefmalar7837 10 лет назад

      only one advise. study games of grandmasters, who played kings indian attack. there must be tons of their notes.

    • @ismaelhayden2916
      @ismaelhayden2916 10 лет назад

      Josef Malár you mean do it the hard way! Studying for fun makes me depressed.

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks ShotDown! Glad to hear it!

  • @nobukichi
    @nobukichi 15 лет назад

    Thanks for the video.
    I did not have comfortable response against French and Caro-Kann defense. I will definitely try KIA. It looks similar to my favorite KID.

  • @thanatos167
    @thanatos167 15 лет назад

    very nice video. I very much enjoy your opening videos and I use them a little too much (eg Scandinavian)
    I think you should rank the defences based on your own preference sometime.

  • @Strijdparel
    @Strijdparel 15 лет назад

    Hi, thank you for all your video's, I learn a lot from them. I do have a question, I would really like to learn the best openings and so on and so on. What is teh best way to get started? What are good books, or free online courses? Or perhaps even video's? If you could give me a few hints that would be great. By the way what programme are you using?

  • @guyvanburen
    @guyvanburen 4 года назад

    At 8:23 I think white needs to play exd5. Otherwise black will play ..dxe4, dxe4 kxe4, kxe4 qxqd1, kxqd1 and white loses his castle. It’s annoying

  • @tastybrain
    @tastybrain 14 лет назад

    @jrobichess Cool! But that was a year ago! Did you ever make a vid for that? I'd love to know because I this video was great and I'm sure your analysis from black's perspective would be valuable too! Give us a link if you made one! Thanks!

  • @orbsandtea
    @orbsandtea 15 лет назад

    Where is the second horsie? :S
    I usually place it at d2, to connect the horsies, but c3 is more agressive and doesn't block bishop...

  • @blindsey1076
    @blindsey1076 10 лет назад +1

    Many thanks-I learned alot from this tutorial,

  • @TenisDimants
    @TenisDimants 14 лет назад

    It is awesome!! Thanks :) It realy makes game so much more fun after these openings have been achieved.

  • @JustAnotherPers0n
    @JustAnotherPers0n 15 лет назад

    also if you have time... could you make a video giving us an opening which can transpose into more popular openings( 2 or 3, maybe more =].) with this start... like in case black creates a weakness on his side that cant be thwarted with this opening but can be capitalized by another opening!! it would help a lot, thanks in advance.

  • @MKANDRESTINPEACE
    @MKANDRESTINPEACE 13 лет назад

    i love all your explaniation jerobi, whats your rittung by the way???? thanks a lot.!!!!

  • @joshwuh88
    @joshwuh88 15 лет назад

    Great vid. I love King's Indian Attack, it's very fun. Thanks!

  • @gsriram3959
    @gsriram3959 9 лет назад

    Well you might quite be prepared for the Scandinavian defense. The Kings Indian attach dosen't work then. (With1 e4 of course).

  • @Scredit
    @Scredit 13 лет назад

    i used to use this attack (not knowing what it was called) but a defense variation. i dont remember how. but i won more that 70% of my games that way

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks for checking it out and happy b-day! =)

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    I have some info related to your questions on my personal chess site (link in the info box to the right) that I have found from several top level players when I was looking into the same questions. Hope that helps and thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Good idea J - thanks for posting!

  • @JustAnotherPers0n
    @JustAnotherPers0n 15 лет назад

    very nice easy to learn explanation! Thank you

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks Clearerer!

  • @gngeannakakes
    @gngeannakakes 15 лет назад

    How do you get to post beyond the ten minute time limit that the rest of us are limited to? By the way - do you have any videos specifically on the Caro-Kahn?

  • @ChrisTheGreenMage
    @ChrisTheGreenMage 15 лет назад

    awesome, a new video, great job Jrobi.

  • @bobbiness78
    @bobbiness78 15 лет назад

    Another great video; thanks for posting this!

  • @johnnyjmagic
    @johnnyjmagic 13 лет назад

    Hi.You sound the same as kevin fron the chess website.com.Both of you are great teachers,and easy to listen to.Iam getting beter in my chess skills!Take care,John Inglis.

  • @Wismer1987
    @Wismer1987 14 лет назад

    @frinchboy black dont play openings its called a defence. u wanna play not symetrical defences with black - like the sicilian, caro kann, french pirc are good defences against 1.e4. And against 1.d4 i often play inian defences with Nf6 or reversed sicilian

  • @jrobichess
    @jrobichess  15 лет назад

    Thanks Chris!

  • @orbsandtea
    @orbsandtea 15 лет назад

    Why isn't the knight at d2?
    I've always wondered why knight moves to c3 instead of d2. Is it counter productive to push it to c3?