Don’t romanticise Vijayanagara as the ‘last Hindu empire’-it has a side you don’t know about
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The Vijayanagara Empire often conjures up images of tragedy and ruin. It is often referred to as the “last Hindu empire”. But this takes attention away from its transregional, multilingual reality-and the effects that this had on older social structures. Anirudh Kanisetti explains how Vijayanagara’s martial and governing classes inadvertently created chaos and crisis in 15th century Tamil Nadu, eventually giving rise to the thriving South Indian societies we are familiar with today.
Sources:
Karashima, Noboru. History and Society in South India: The Cholas to Vijayanagar. New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 2001.
Karashima, Noboru. Ancient to medieval: South Indian Society in transition. Oxford University Press, 2010.
Ramaswamy, Vijaya. "Vishwakarma craftsmen in early medieval peninsular India." Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient 47, no. 4 (2004): 548-582.
Subbarayalu, Y. South India Under the Cholas. New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 2012.
Stein, Burton. The New Cambridge History of India: Vijayanagara. Cambridge University Press, 1990.
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Vijayanagara empire supported Hindu temples and muttas on a massive scale and re endowed the great temples of region that had been devastated by the Deccan campaign of the Delhi sultanate. The provided an environment that allowed the indigenous cultures and traditions of the regions to thrive. They were the last great indigenous or Hindu empire. The last great Kingdoms were Mysore and Travancore in Southern India
Shekar ji, you need to fire this guy. The Print does not need to do this kind to news. I really don't think it is going to bring any value to the Print, But will, for sure degrade whatever it has earned - Shekar ji your choice. This is my second time, I've watched this person video, in the first video also and this video - this guy of yours has not presented any factual information. The writer's he has mentioned almost all of them neither has presented fact or provided fact with biased opinion. Most of them drawn inferences from writer with Communist, British or Islamist mindset. You can not put narrative based on skewed opinion of those people who themselves didn't put record straight. Can't build castle on Lies and biased opinion.
Exactly, Shekar in trouble
Agreed! I have watched a few of his earlier ones and now just come to read the comments and see how many people agree with him. Sad to see someone from my state so anti-hindu. If he was being fair to other religions, I'd consider it as unbiased. He can't seem to find to find any positive in all of Sanathana Dharma's history! Hides the positives and puts the negatives in the front...romila thapar and irfan habib will be proud!
0:44 Low IQ monkey lmao it's Tamil NadU not "tAmIL nAd" you absolute doorjamb of a human. Please stop that Arabic/Turkish/Persian Swill language you call Hindi's tendency to drop vowels at the end of proper languages. You aren't even speaking Hindi when making such a shit mistake so what is your excuse. Also terribly researched video somehow Marathis,Telugus, Persians, Kannadigas and Tamils migrating around interior of Vijaynagar Emprie doesn't make it Hindu.... Let me blow your mind all the South Indian Hindu kingdoms and Empires were cosmopolitan. First learn how to properly speak and pronounce names, then learn how to research.
@@tejraju As a Tamizhan, I support Vijayanagara empire
How does migration within Southern regions, taxation and administrative issues establish that we should not view Vijayanagar as a Hindu Empire?
Because they couldn't care less about their religion. Plain and simple!!
And they were equally barbaric as non Hindu empires of that time.
@@sudharshanve8519 apples and oranges. Just because they were flawed humans as all of us does not mean their action against Madurai Sultanate and temple patronage are to be discounted in toto
@@rajanikantmohan840 By tht logic it's apples and oranges to compare Malik Kafur's invasion with Muslim settlers who patronized the land.
Feels like we are talking into the ether. First what even is a Hindu empire? If the criterion is having majority of the ruling class following Hinduiism then yeah it is a Hindu empire. Plain and simple
The Maratha Empire was also a Hindu empire
It collapsed as soon as it emerged
@@southpole4776yes 250 years of existence means collapsing rapidly
@@beluga9596 250 years of existence? lol
No Maratha Empire is just a joke
@@harshitsingh7042 Without yhe British, it would have probably went on to unite the subcontinent and last much much longer, becoming among the most influential empires of India, due to how recent it was.
"last Hindu empire' had a side that was every way & better medival empire than anyother empire on earth that time so...., I don't think this was a dark side or a chaos, as descried 😂 seems like the empire handeld the things far better way without any genocide, loot of temples is contentious Anirudhh failed to mention which temple ....🤦♂hard to belive when specfics are omitted...
You are right.... typical of pSickulars....just "feku" something to create a narrative or tom tom a single isolated incident as a universal observation...
Anirudh is a leftist propagandist
The only reason we have Hinduism, the indigenous culture and its temples surviving in the South is because of the bulwark called Vijayanagara empire..You can try n cover it up with "secular" history as much as you want but that is the truth..
😂 then why vijayanagara backstabbed pandyas who are also hindus and never let them into their own city madurai. stop whitewashing vijayanagar atrocities.
@@josejoseph8725 The point made was regarding Vijayanagar being a Hindu bulwark..it would have been equally welcome if the same came in the form of the Pandyas..it is important for that such forces come into prominence when need arises...for example when the menace of the ricebag conversion lobby goes beyond a point a resistance will come up to throw it away..be it in any form it is welcome.. I'm sure you get the point..
@gautamchandran good joke da, vijayanagar backstabbed pandyas and never let them into madurai to worship their clan deity meenakshi amman. They destroyed the mighty gajapati empire of odradesa, when gajapati king followed jayadevas teaching and decreased the wars on hindu dynasties, vijayanagar took it as advantage and defeated them and made them prey for bengal sultans. If you see any damaged temple in odisha, the credit goes to your vijayanagara.
@@josejoseph8725 You are refusing to get the point..my point clearly was that Vijayanagar was the reason why Indic faith and traditions survive in the southern part of the subcontinent..they may have subjugated other Kings in and around the area but they saved the Indic way of life here..
@@josejoseph8725 Odisha is very much culturally an Indic state, very much like the southern peninsula..and if you check historical maps you will notice that the area of current Odisha never fully came under the Muslim Sultans of Bengal
I am impressed by the communists consistent efforts to spread propaganda inspite of enormous proof to the contrary
Can you site this enormous proof?
Atleast he has given his sources for his conclusion.
Seems like a Brahmin
@@southpole4776 yes the learned one. Not mugal shit eater.
Ok, proof in favor of sudips comment: please read Rebel Sultans by Manu Pillai or A concise history of Karnataka by Suryanath Kamath. I know you wont read it, but you have to counter bullshit when you see it. The brains of Indian historians of the school that Kanisetty belongs to is so anti Hindu that they continue to propogate falsehoods like Ghazni was just a raider ignoring his own reporting of the "raids" to the Somnath Mandir. The proof against his bigotry was that he apparently had Hindu mercenaries, therefore he cant have been bigoted. Ive been suspicious of this guy since he put out his Ghazni video.
The reason why Sudip is flabergasted is because the left, once caught in their own lie never admits to incorrect sourcing of information or their mistakes but double down, and for what? To create a utopia where the society becomes anti human and somehow more islamist.
Also stop your caste based bigotry against brahmins, its disgusting and belongs in the garbage can along with all other forms of caste based bigotry
@sudipbhattacharjee9
“I am impressed by the [...] proof to the contrary”
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No sensible person is impressed by the relentless efforts of saffron sanghtards to rewrite history on the bases of their own biases and prejudices.
It's indeed a hindu empire. All your arguments won't prove it otherwise. Vijayanagar empire was the establishment of dharma against the adharmis foreign plunderers.
You mean foreign Aryans?
@@southpole4776 aryans originated in south of foreignerin iran region, iranian and north indian society was same so where is foreigners
@@TransgirlsEnjoyer so you are saying that Pakistan and North India should be one country instead of the current arrangement?
@@southpole4776 against MLECHHAS
@@JustMe54328 aren't the Aryans the OG mlechas?
Exactly where was the central premise disproved? Vijayanagara was certainly a Hindu empire and was the last Empire from Southern India to establish power. (Maratha Empire primarily was centred around Western and Central India) All later iterations were Kingdoms (or Nawab ruled states). Using its multiliguistic and transregional attributes to prove it was not Hindu (and hence should not be romanticised) is as good as Kamal Hassan saying the Cholas were not Hindu. Most of the audience can see right through this farce.
Personally I don't find this controversial at all. You are just presenting ordinary research poorly packaged with an absurd title. You have made a good following, don't ruin it by going full blown communist. Expect better from you.
He a leftist arsehole ...repackaging & presenting Ramila Thapar on youtube. Nothing more!
he does this in all his videos. Hindu-bashing title is his clickbait methodology.
This guy is a plant into the podcast space by the fiberal ecosystem as a counter to the strong and credible voices from the right..he's just following the instructions from his masters..maybe he's been promised some research fellowship in some university abroad in return for agenda peddling in India for a few years
Hindu society is secular in nature to begin with
They were Hindu empire, why do left liberal nazi filth conflate language and religion? - all Hindu empires in all of history were multi-lingual as there are many Hindu laguages.
Forcefully presenting history in this sadistic way just serves as justification for the evils of the Islamic rulers. It is neither honest or proffesional.
Its founder Bakka brothers clearly created it as the last bastion of Hinduism. They got converted to iskam by the sultans and then reconverted into Hinduism to fight the Islamic sultans. The formation and history of Vijaynagar can only be understood and make sense as an empire which was formed to preserve Hindu culture in souther India and Deccan. While it did not soe finally target the Muslim community. In its pursuit of conserving Hindu culture if any Muslim community got in the way they killed them, and if a hindu got in the way they did the same
They abandoned this "Hindu-Hindu" policy soon after.
@@grapeshott Not really Hindus are just multi cultural in general. Most probably peopl no longer looked at the sultans as a danger to their culture
The central point was never explained..why that pov is incorrect. After all 5 Muslim sultanates ranged against a Hindu one. Was the composition of the sultanate armies mostly non Muslim?
Just used as a bait to attract viewers by using outrageous titles. Then using sophistry in an attempt to explain.
@@usernotfound40412 Spot on
The central point is Vijaya nagara was no different to muslim invaders, a classic leftist liberal communist mindset
Yes. They were at least 60-40 ratio non Muslim. Heck, the very name Bahmani comes from Brahmin.!!
They were Hindu empire, why do left liberal nazi filth conflate language and religion? - all Hindu empires in all of history were multi-lingual as there are many Hindu laguages.
Feels like this guy is reading from a book. Need someone with more energy to do this
Kind of agree
Like Chavda😂😂😂😂😂
0:44 Low IQ monkey lmao it's Tamil NadU not "tAmIL nAd" you absolute doorjamb of a human. Please stop that Arabic/Turkish/Persian Swill language you call Hindi's tendency to drop vowels at the end of proper languages. You aren't even speaking Hindi when making such a shit mistake so what is your excuse. Also terribly researched video somehow Marathis,Telugus, Persians, Kannadigas and Tamils migrating around interior of Vijaynagar Emprie doesn't make it Hindu.... Let me blow your mind all the South Indian Hindu kingdoms and Empires were cosmopolitan. First learn how to properly speak and pronounce names, then learn how to research.
He is a propagandist.
Not a complete story at all, getting bits from here and there to build a narrative or just bad research.
Hari Hara and Bukka, The 2 brothers who were once under the service of Delhi Sultan in 13th century converted to Islam and later reconverted to Hinduism to establish the vijaynagar empire which was at its peak between the 14-15th century controlling the entire South on coromonodal West
Hey mate, A south indian here and kannadiga!
thats a legend story or runour story without any substantial epigraphical proof.
Bro this is what I read in medival history
@@TheChintu-il3sq its oral history and lot of ‘Indian’ history is based on oral sources. And they did indeed even have a Brahmin priest who reconverted them
“After the King of Warangal was defeated by Muhammad bin Tughlaq, Bukka and his brother were taken prisoners and sent to Delhi, where they both converted to Islam. Bukka and his brother eventually escaped, reconverted to Hinduism under the influence of the sage Vidyaranya, and founded the Vijayanagara Empire.”
From wiki
@@advaithramesh6697 Hey there mate!! i agree on that oral sources of evidence are important and not to be undermined it paints howerer may be vague they may be but its the archeological evidences mainly epigraphies, inscription and literature that solidifies as history at the end even they may be propaganda sometimes and contradictions too if new epigraphies discovery says something out of the blue. Finally it is solidified on common grounds of numerous epigraphies and literature.. even i know that there are a lot of oral legends including the brave rabbit fighting dog and sage vidhyaranya beholding the scene comanded akka bukka to establish an empire. But according to many historians there's no mention of vidhyaranya in epigraphies and literature other than mentions in these legends but they point out to some other sages who were disciple or may be guru of vidyaranya whom names i've forgotten.Ancient and Medeival history is always turbulent.
@@advaithramesh6697 LOL VIjayanagara original name is "KArnataka Samrajya".
why would they name it as "Karnataka Samrajya" if they were telugu?
officially as per the evidence, Harihara and bukka are military generals of Hoysala King, Veera ballala 3, who were related to Kannada Kamplil Kingdom.
Good video that shows how this host trying hard to speak in an accent, which is not his familiarized one. tried showing up as an affluent British speaker. but ended up as an amateur translator. Last but not least. Madurai was in hands of Madurai sultanate which destroyed the Tamil origin Madurai legacy but Vijayanagara restored it. "But for Vijayanagara Hinduism would have been reduced to a shadow and mockery". the quotation of famous historian P.B. Desai about Vijayanagara.
True . A lot of temples Madurai Meenakshi and Srirangam were in a dire state and closed down for 40 years. It was Kumara Kampanna, son of Bukka Raya defeated the Madurai Sultanate and opened the doors of many temples of Tamil Nadu.
As a Tamizhan, I love Vijayanagara and Nayaka empires that saved us from islamic invasions
Why do I feel like he is just reading a script? The Print, plz give him at least 3-4 minutes extra time.
Arrival of Vijayanagar into Tamilnadu, certainly changed the political and cultural landscape. For example, Devadasi, who were nuns of temples became prostitutes of the state. Introduction of taali, the sacred thread tie during marriage which was not present earlier in TN, etc
Also don't forget they banned tamil from using in temples. Saying it as an unfit language for music. The reason why carnatic songs composed in Tamil Nadu were majorly in telugu and sanskrit. Later the end of the vijayanagar and nayaka goons ,tamils revived the music culture.
@@josejoseph8725You just expose your DMK University education here other than anything,... 😅
@drodro7672 DMK politicians themselves are remains of vijayanagara 😂 if you remove them from Tamilnadu most of the tamils will be happy😂 periyar the founder of dravidian Seperatism is also a remain of vijayanagara, his name is EV ramaswamy nayaka. Nayakas served as generals of so called your shitnagara 😂 learn about these to comment lol
@@josejoseph8725 Yes, I don't deny it,... DMK is mostly composed of - irony of history - descendants of the Vijayanagara expansion (including its top leading fake Tamils Telugu Karunanidhi family).
But these Telugus play what politics in TN, not only Dravidianism, but also Tamildesiyam ! They are luring for decades people with so-called self-respect and fanatic worship of mother tongue and ethnicity, and which language and race ? Tamil Tamil Tamil !
Tamil is now a matter of business and profits ! Not a culture or a heritage !
True tamilians must leave those racialists and half far-left fascists and half crony capitalists ideologies and political parties. Tamil isn't superior to Sanskrit, Hindi, English, Tagalog, or Mayan. As well, those languages aren't peculiarly superior to Tamil. Tamilan isn't superior to a Vadakkan or an Ugandan, as well those people aren't superior to Tamilan.
Those ideologies and perpetuating parties are creating people all alike incels, self-insecure Tamilcels !
@@josejoseph8725 Just a historically recognised fact about the Vijayanagara you hate so much and you like to defame.
Who is the traditional founding father of Carnatic Music tradition ?
Sri Purandara Dasa, from which kingdom ? Vijayanagara...
How can Tamil have been "erased" from a musical tradition that originally sprouted on southern half of Deccan (and the current-day Tamil Nadu, without being exclusive to it) ? A musical tradition that exists only from the 12th century and latter ?
And for temple chanting tradition in Tamil. Had the devout Sri Vaishnavite Nayaks of Tanjore banned Paasuram and other Vaishnavite liturgy corpus in Tamil from the famed Sri Gopalaswamy of Mannargudi, their personal sanctuary ? The answer is NO, and the Sri Vaishnavite Tamil liturgy tradition never faded and wasn't resurected in the 19th century. It has been continued without interruption or corruption.
As well, is the famed Thayumanavar, minister at the court of Tiruchirappalli Nayak, an important writer of Telugu Shaivite literature ? NO...
Concocted one sided story, which doesn't prove the main point it claims to. I remember seeing your Chanakya video, even there you tried downplay his vision and role in uniting India. Your ideas kind of sound like communist propoganda which is still fine, but I see deliberate lack of even handedness.
The way this guy speaks sounds more like a robot 🤖
This man is entirely depending on British narration of Indian history! Do you have any idea how much they have tampered the real histories of India? How much are these reliable?
And what is your own intention? To defame one of the great empires of India?
200% true.
most of these western "academians" are non SUPREMACISTS, whose sole goal is to portray India based on 1860s racist orientalist views.
of course, they will degrate and dehumanize Indians.
Bro graduated from WhatsApp University, he clearly is anti india and anti hindu, first he is saying Gupta's didn't rule whole of India, now saying don't romantacize about vijayanagara, because to they fought against islamic invasion, clearly we know what this guys agenda is, but like to clarify that it won't sell here😂
When guptas rule whole of India...
@@raghuls1515 study atleast your ncert test books man, where not you in the class?
@@adharshmanikoth3381 the top two great empire of india is the mauryas of north & cholas of south ...gupta controlled north india ...
Guptas only ruled the north lmao, they barely scratched the peninsula. Learn history before embarrassing yourself.
bro look at a map guptas only rules northern pat of India and coast of Odisha.He is also a historian who gives his sources,where are your sources and you only graduated from whatsapp university.Just because someone doesn't agree with the modern view and is using historical evidence doesn't mean that they're anti India.
The "Karnataka empire"or Vijayanagar was established with the sole purpose of defending the Hindu religion and culture in south india.Harihara and his brother Bukkaraya were inspird by the sage Vidyaranya to counter with fullforce the invasion and plunder of the Khilji general Mallik kafur and his ilk.
This is what the Hindutva historians fail to understand. That every empire be it the Vijayanagar or Mughal empire served at the behest of its rulers and a certain class of people they deemed "favourable". These are complex socio - political issues that cannot simply branded into Hindu vs Muslim empires. They are simply as their name suggests empires and are imperialistic in nature. The Vijaynagar empire simply didn't conquer Muslim lands but also other Hindu lands and this had to be sanctioned through religion because that was the way things worked then.
The Nayakas of Vijayanagara Empire, the present day Naickers and some Naickens have always confused me. Can somebody throw some light on this?
Both are same. Naickers of Madurai are Tamilized form of Nayakas, so we're Naiks of Maharashtra and Orissa.
Vijayanagara Empire ❌❌❌ Karnataka Empire ✅✅✅ thats how The name Karnataka came from....
There is nothing romatic from the point of wars and administration. The kings always had to fight some war or the other. But accounts by historians show that in the south Hindus lived a relatively peaceful lives compared to the north due to south Indian kings managing to fight off the islamization and islamic rulers especially after Auranzeb died. If however Bharathiya kings were really strong and astute they would have fallen prey to a company owned army.
The kings in vijayanagar empire used titles such as Gobrahamana Pratipalanacharya (literally, "protector of cows and Brahmins") also they patronised so many hindu philosophers and poets , this guy cherrypicks always
1)The problem is you quote a lot of secondary sources with authors with questionable motives. One of the "scholars" you quote most often is Karashima. Noburu Karashima dismissed the 25 monumental works on South Indian history by Nilakanta Shastri because the author had Brahmin bias. All the while marketing his own stuff as more accurate. The fact remains that no scholar till date has published any work of similar quality or quantity on south Indian history as Nilakanta Shastri remains unmatched.
2) Again carried off their idols does not mean disrespect to the deities. An example is the Vatapi ganapathi looted by the Pallava army from the chalukyan city of Vatap In the 7th century(1300-1400 years ago) still remain enshrined in a small temple in Tiruchenkattankudi, Tamil Nadu.
3)"Caste" or varna mobility in India was common in peninsular India till the pre-British period, I don't know why that surprises people. We have just been brainwashed to think the "castes" we have today are hereditary and hierarchical for thousands of years.
Can you elaborate on what Karashima meant by,"brahmin bias"?
@@Spaceplayzsfs He says that Nilakanta Shastri being a Brahmin, was inclined to emphasize the role of North Indian and Sanskrit culture in the development of south Indian society. Which is actually the reality, even the so-called Pure Tamil works of the Sangam literature were composed in an era where this "Sanskrit culture" was already popular in the south.
@@CrownofIndra I mean,there was sanskrit cosmopolis which the anirudh kanisetti guy talks about in his book where the aristocracy spoke sanskrit in court and the other people spoke local languages throughout India but idk if it was like that in TN but it was like that in karnataka with the exception of the rashtrakutas who spoke courtly Kannada
Kanoon andha hai suna tha.. par yahan to media.. gunga, behra, anda aur beakal sabit ho raha hai.. aak kol ke dekhenge to aaj bi Bharatwarsh hindu rastra hi hai.. to phir aakri kaise hua..
Slow down please
More you learn about history proper it becomes difficult to hate
Title and content has no correlation!
The host just want to break hindu community on caste lines using history as a tool!
Then why should we fantasies any islamic rules as well, they where even worse with religious taxes to conversion everything was on table.
No respect for this chap whose scholarship is rooted in Sheldon Pollock's outsider lens.
Karnata empire( Vijayanagara) was a secular kingdom Neither it was the last hindu kingdom or hinduism existed at that time, there were seperate regilions Shaivas, vaishnavas, Jains, buddists, Kshratriya dharma, vaishya dharma, brahmana dharma etc it was the Britishwho coined and classified hinduism putting those sects in one baskets for ease of understanding,Mysore kingdom( Wodeyar dynasty) rose and was the largest kingdom after few years after fall of karnata empire.
Importantly the name was never vijayanagara empire its name is "karnata empire " kannada empire comprising all of south india empire headed by kannada kings, karnata empire is the successor of hoysala dynasty (Beast killers in kannada) hoysala empire were secular enpire, we kannadigas were always peace and secular people and this tradition continued karnata empire was also a secular empire. The slave dynasty of khiljis and tugluks defeated all southern kingdom of cholas, pandyas (tamil powers) and eliminated kakathiya lineage( telugu power), Hoysalas (kannada power) were the only might proudly standing tall though defeated once but resisted. The last hoysala king veeraballa 3 ruled from modern day maharastra to northern parts of tamil nadu or kongu nadu region to protect south india sent his able commander brothers akka and bukka to protect northern parts of hoysala kingdom while ballala went to thiruvanna mallai to protect southeren parts of the kingdom from madhurai sultans ( commanders of slave dynastywho defeated pandyas and became sultans). Verrabalalla defeated madurai sultans in war but was captured by unfair means by madurai sultan Geeyasuddin and trafically skinned and was hung on fort wall. As a revenge and to build a mighty empire to defeat northern invaders vereraballas son and akka bukka took vow and foundeded karnata empire with akka (Harihara ) being the 1st king and Verabalalla's queen and son passed the crown to akka , the foundation stone inscription it mention clearly in halekannada (old kannada) mentions," karnata empire founded on this day of year of 1336." This was recently deciphered by a well know epigraphist of Mysore, karnataka "Vasundhara Filiozat" hence the name of state karnataka she adds.
Another historical anectode is Veera balalla 3 guardian of south india who defeated madhurai sultan and freed madhurai meenakshi temple restoring temple after 30 years of horrors commited by giyaasuddin, he would kill babies on mothers breasts and kill people and hung them in temple.
So even to this day tamils worship him in thiruvannamalai as god "Vellala" and do fare in his name.
Jai Karnataka!!💛❤
It was it was Telugu empire and all South Indian and Deccani empire
@@advaithramesh6697 Hey there! Its a kannada empire, this debate was settled way back in 60s and 70s. Numerous epigraphies, coins and copper plates states in halegannada, ols tamil and telugu languages confirm that the founders akka bukka were commanders of hoysala veera ballala and kannadiga origins belonging to sangama royal family. So sangama, saluva, tuluva were kannagigas and last line Aravidu were telugu rulers that to son in law of shri krishna devaraya, aliya ramaraya was from aravidu line. The recent discovery and decipher of foundation stone by well known mysore ephigraphist Vasundara Filiozat also confirmed it sheding light and clearing all contradiction about origins of the empire.
@TheChintu-il3sq actually because of telugu aravidu line, vijayanagara dynasty destroyed. Aliya rama raya being telugu, killed kannada achyutadevaraya lineage which brought the end of vijayanagara.
@@advaithramesh6697sir it was both amalgamation of Telugu,majorly kannadiga and tuluva kings it was a kingdom found in tough times to protect the culture and literature.in this we can see intermingling of Telugu and kannada families so language was not at all a differentiator unlike now.
Cholas were already fall in 1279 by pandyas ... It is the civil war that made sultans to defeat them..
its also literally not the last hindu empire, given that marathas exist
he meant that at the time,during the late delhi sultanate era it was the last Hindu empire,but your point still stands if we're talking outside that era.
cheap clickbait tactics
Awesome stuff❤
So happy to know the wily Brahmin was willing to 'grant' higher Twice Born Status 😊
Your articles are like a flood of light on the real picture, which was hidden all this while. If we think it over, it all starts to make sense and feels "normal." This is true for all your episodes. We can understand and appreciate the research that has gone into it. We wait anxiously for the next episode to be published. Thanks a lot!
Dont believe the autor if he comes from rss caste because it can be a propaganda.
Huh? You search for people's caste?
Just bull shit!
Brahmins
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Muslims ☕
We Indians tend to idolise and shade everything in Black or White, Right or Wrong, Good or Evil. This over simplification betrays a feeble mind and an ignorance that is beyond appalling. Probably Generational. Your output delves into the grey areas and provides an even perspective on all the players of History. Thankfully in a nation of a billion plus feeble minds, you have a million plus folks in the aware who marvel at your insights.
Just like, how you did on the above comment.
Accha khoon ki eid
Insights? no its narrative setting.
Why do these people have so much sympathy for a terrorist community who has done nothing for the World.yes I idolise lord rama, if i can get or learn something from Lord rama i will be a billionaire. You will be a terrorist by following the sugar daddy of a 7 year old girl. You are a terrorist from inside that's why Israel is beating your ass. 😀😀😀whole world insights
speak slow man, I can understand but not all. dont u read feedback?
Bro, slow down a bit, take a pause, take some breaths. You're going too fast.
This episode rivals Breathless by Shankar Mahadevan.
Just like how cholas brought chaos into karnataka region .. vijayanagara brought chaos into tamilnadu. This is just how medieval society worked. So debating which one was peaceful is senseless. Initial conquest of vijayanagar was violent too. Kumarakampana forced sambuvarayas of rajagambirarajyam (tondaimandalam) into submission. This is mentioned in madhuravijayam itself. After they ravaged kongu. Finally they reached madurai to eliminate Mubarak shah of madurai sultanate. They just needed a cause to extend their borders and muslim rule In madurai became one. Cholas used andhra region as a cause to invade karnataka repeatedly. So medieval society is filled with ambitious and arrogant monarch who will do anything to fill their kingdoms coffers.
Every empire was ambitious. Cholas and Pandyas were in conflict - they didn't like each other. But both empires contributed immensely to language, art and architecture. Same goes with Vijayanagara as well - I don't about whether they supported Tamil. But Vijayanagara/ Nayaka rulers expanded a lot of temples in TN. For instance, Madurai Meenakshi temple built by later Pandyas had only East and West Gopurams. But when Vijayanagara came in, they added a lot of Gopurams to the temple complex, Mandapams were built with artistic beauty. 80 to 90% of the temple complex is from the Vijayanagara/ Nayaka rule. There are a lot of temples that have expanded like anything. Still these huge temple complexes contribute significantly to TN GDP from domestic and international tourism.
Do you know from the same Madurai Vijayam you read, the doors of Madurai Meenakshi and Srirangam were opened by Kumara Kampanna after 40 years of closure by Madurai Sultanates. Have you read inscriptions of Sambuvarayars , Pandyas - how temples were in a dilapidated state. Have you read brutality of Delhi Sultanates from the works of Amit Kusro, Phirni etc. Vijayanagara was better than Madurai Sultanate in this respect. But yeah every empire's foundation is the desire for authority. It is just that one can be better than the other.
Excellent video. Thanks for covering the struggles of 'nattars' in 14,15th centuries. In rural TN we can find that Telugu warrior/peasants holding tracts of land and power in the regions that were already settled by Tamils earlier. This lead me to search and ultimately find the bloody history behind current social picture not spoken about. Their erstwhile position as military lords is giving the capital to become business owners now.
I used to think you were biased against the cholas, but you have proven that you are covering history as it is.
That,s just imperial politics, those ‘Telugu’ warriors were also Hindu. Hindu has always been Multiple lingual and multi sect society. It was far more open to debate than even Akbar,s time
0:44 Low IQ monkey lmao it's Tamil NadU not "tAmIL nAd" you absolute doorjamb of a human. Please stop that Arabic/Turkish/Persian Swill language you call Hindi's tendency to drop vowels at the end of proper languages. You aren't even speaking Hindi when making such a shit mistake so what is your excuse. Also terribly researched video somehow Marathis,Telugus, Persians, Kannadigas and Tamils migrating around interior of Vijaynagar Emprie doesn't make it Hindu.... Let me blow your mind all the South Indian Hindu kingdoms and Empires were cosmopolitan. First learn how to properly speak and pronounce names, then learn how to research.