Well, we know 4 things for sure 1. Skip loves Michael Jordan's middle name 2. Skip is a hypocrite when it comes to LBJ vs MJ 3. Skip has covered every sporting event in the history of our country 4. LBJ could win the chip, sweep the Clippers in the Western Conference Finals and sweep the bucks in the finals, win finals MVP, win regular season MVP, average a triple double for the finals but id he made one pass to danny green to hit a winning shot in a game in the finals, skip would say, "he's afraid of the moment" "Michael Jeffrey Jordan would have taken that shot"
Stupid take. Shannon made up today that Michael got swept till pippen got there. Mj didn’t get swept as a rookie actually. The only hypocrite is Shannon. Even a liar when he’s making this up. Y’all just don’t have b ball knowledge? We supposed to care that he stat pads? Who cares when you lose. 6-0 with a guy who has more accolades in less time and never shrank. Or 3-6 against a guy who shrank many times? What he do? Beat an overrated gs? Who blew a 3-1 lead? Okc blew a 3-1 lead vs Gs. Rockets had to miss 27 threes in a row to lose by 9. If they hit 15 percent bye bye gs. Winners take theirs not wait to see if the other teams a choker. Lbj. Beat Tim d at 37-38 and Manu at 35 while in a super team. And they beat okc. No one says okc the best team ever or close. Skip the only one giving you the real. Everyone praising lbj for nothing. If he was on the west he probably wouldn’t even have 3 finals! Since he beat the best team in the west three times. But you have to consider if he played okc, sa, gs. Two or theee of then in a row he would have collapsed at least once, given his track record. Cough mavs series. So we should praise him for being so strong and fast with no big men and easy rules and being in the leastern conference? That’s the problem we got real expectations that’s why we know a goat when see one.
The disrespect for Scottie Pippen has got to stop! Michael Jordan has repeatedly said you can't say Michael Jordan without saying Scottie Pippen. He said it in his HOF speech he said it in the documentary. Jordan also said in Barcelona during his time with the dream team that he learned that Scottie Pippen at that time was the best all round player in the NBA. Jordan said that Pippen out played, Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Clyde Drexler and everyone else including Jordan himself from time to time. Those are Jordan's words. It's an easy quote to find for anyone interested.
What is he supposed to say at no point in time did Scottie out play Magic, but I will give u this Pip was a gr8 defender but Pip never ever wanted to face the Pistons (He Was Shook) facing them I remember Scottie was so afraid of the Bad Boys he got a headache and sat out the most important game at that time for the Bulls. He did redeem himself against the Lakers by guarding Magic in game 2 of the finals bc game 1 Magic was destroying MJ and Phil made the change and the rest his HISTORY!!
@@ifeellikeyeezus8525 Today competition IS MUCH BETTER. These White dudes won't ever make it in today's NBA. It's like college. LOW SCORES OR BAD GPA WONT MAKE IT TO TOP SCHOOL. As time pass, people become better and evolve.
@@youwouldntgetit3792 I suck at basketball and averaged more points in my middle school league, my team even made it to the finals, even though we lost.
What you mean by "still"? And have you ever heard about Kawhi Leonard? Kevin Durant? Giannis Antetokoumpo? Lebron is not the best and has not been for quite some time now.
@@tangaraspeedgoda7436 I hear you but you are missing the all around point. Lebron james is still the best player in the NBA today. Gianni's A is a really good player but look what happened to him when his team really needed him. He allowed Kawei Lennord to to take him out of his game after being up 2 to 0 against the Philadelphia 76er's. Gianni A is a good player but his team needed him to be "Great" and he did not deliver. Kawei Lennord is another very good player and his defense is first class but Kawei Lennord lacks in comparison to a player like Lebron james. Kawei Lennord does not have the personality that it takes to make his teammates perform at a higher level in crucial big game moments. Like I said KAWEI Lennord is a very good player matter of fact he is one of the top 3 players in the league but he is not the best player as you can see by the flaws that I have mentioned about his game. Last but not least you have Kevin Durant. This is another outstanding player and a prolific scorer. There isn't a player in any league that can stop KD from getting his shot off and it is simply bc the brother has a 7ft 6" wingspan he has a handle combined with a deadly accurate jumpshot from wherever he decides to pull up. All that being said he is not better than LEBRON for the simple fact KD is not an Alpha-Dog on the floor. If you can remember when KEVIN Durant was playing for the O.KC THUNDER Russell Westbrook was the Alpha male on that team and it wasn't hard to tell. Russell Westbrook took more shots than Kevin Durant.. Of course Westbrook had the ball in his hand a lot but Russell Westbrook had more game winning attempts than KD in the same year that KD won the scoring title. Westbrook was able to continue with his erratic playing style bc he was the Alpha male and KD was his sidekick... Bottom line is KEVIN DURANT does not know how to be a "Leader" he is one of the best that ever laced em up but he just doesn't have what it takes to make his teammates respect him as a leader or to make his teammates believe that they are better than what they really are during the season and when they are in big games during crucial moments when there is no room for slackin. These are the times when LeBron James "greatness" comes to life..Hey, it is what it is..
@@GGdork He's still the face of the nba, that's true...that's a choice of the nba for whatever reason. But he's far from being the best...unless you have a different definition of being "the best".
That's also a two way street. Shannon tends to try and downplay what Jordan did while pretending everything Lebron did was 100% all him. Ignoring all the greats he played with.
Honestly the difference is that Jordan took the L’s like a man and gave his all until the buzzer. Lebron on the other hands, for some strange reason, will sometimes began to have a mental breakdown or plays passive in an important game. I never understood that about him. I knew what I was getting from MJ every night. Lebron on the other hand, I never know who showing up. Passive Lebron, Mentally Fragile Lebron, King James, or etc.
That’s just bs!! MJ never won and got swept without Pippen. How about that for now showing up? He didn’t win a play off series without Pippen ?? Is that what you meant by you know what you got. You Jordan fan boys are cringe.
John Stockton it’s true. MJ never had yo live up to high expectations n Lebron since high school has been getting hated on. Imagine hating a guy since a kid. Lebron is easily the most scrutinized athlete ever lol skip is literally criticizing Lebron for not getting criticized enough? I hope he doesn’t see how ironic that is lol
High School LBJ you are wrong. If he is not called the greatest of all time everybody comes out and criticizes and calls people haters. The only reason he gets criticized as badly as he does when talking about this conversation is because he is being compared to the greatest of all time because he has said things like I am chasing The ghost in Chicago so if he has put undue criticism on himself it is because he has dared to try to say that he is the best ever when he isn’t. When people talk about LeBron and don’t mention the greatest of all time discussion he is given nothing but adulation but that’s never mentioned because LeBron always has to be a victim. I have never seen people talk with more excuses in adulation or somebody than people do about LeBron now.
when you call yourself the best player in nba history you get a target on your head he did it to himself...when someone asked jordan how do you feel about being the greatest player ever he goes "i wouldn't say that and its not fair for the past greats that i couldn't compete against so i wouldn't call myself the greatest ever" thats the difference young boy
It's well known fact that Mike and Charles Barkley were best friends, and hung out all the time. Yes players hung out back then as well, they just didn't discuss teaming up.
Shannon is right in 19:00 onwards. People are always gonna pick their GOAT LeBron or MJ but people need to be honest and remember the bads of MJ too. He was not perfect
No ELITE & GREAT player is perfect. Nobody says or seriously thinks that the GOAT MJ is perfect. MJ got his fair share of media criticism as well. There just wasn't social media then that has a 24 hour fans commenting on everything & debate shows
@@louischampagnon3670 it's NOT just Skip but Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright & a couple of others. They don't use CONTEXT when speaking. All ELITE & GREAT PLAYERS NEED another star or deep team to win chips. Albeit SOME needed MORE HELP than others
Shaun Phillips uncle Shay sharpe always says The greats needs help to get chips, it’s not a one person team tbh pippen had better stats than mj, mj just had more points
MJ always bring Pippen with him he never credited his stellar career all for himself. They are inseparable, they make each other better, theyre simply a match made in heaven and it wasnt even forced but it was slowly developed through practice and playing together longer. LeBron was a different story, he wanted help that are already all star calibers that is why he never made good chemistry, if that fails he jumps ship once again and again. Nothing but a ring chaser
Lol Shannon didn't answer either. He talked all that smoke saying Jordan didn't do anything without pippen but when skip mentioned LeBron didn't even make the playoffs his first two seasons he changed the topic
Mac Warren I wasn’t buying that comparison when they got into that part. Jordan had college experience. First couple years in the league was pretty much LeBron’s college experience, and it was nothing like playing on North Carolina and going through the NCAA tournament.
Skip dancing around the fact that Shannon brought up, Jordan missed the last shot and didn't win. Skip talking about how his team wasn't good. How about the 2018 Cleveland team that lost to Steph KD Klay and Draymond?
And I get he's an accomplished analyst and I'll never take anything away from that, he does however use stats out of context a ton and ignores direct questions by bringing something else up to move away from the question that was asked. But hey I'm just a random guy on the internet.
@@stephenasunnamedsource2943 yes that's the point. Ppl dimish what lebron did while getting swept deeper in the playoffs against a better team with about the same amount of help.
Tyresce Lite Bron never made a finals game winner or tying shot in 9 appearances Mj did 1991 game 3 to force overtime with Pippen fouled out then won in overtime.
Mike Hungcho no one ever said they couldn’t. He is just not better than Jordan. Period. It’s that simple. But people will argue it with their last dying breath.
@Show Genius no its disgusting how Kobe is just skipped over in the debate when its a better, closer argument...hes better defensively with a record 9 defensive 1st teams funny how defense wins championships...offensively theres no question.. went 2-1 in the finals with Gasol as his Robin who Bosh is better than... in a waaay harder west with the spurs as an appetizer every year. This was MJs son and hes arguably better at basketball the lebron
Show Genius I’m a LeBron fan, so how is having LeBron in the top 5 (Many say top 2, I have him top 4) not in the same breath as all time greats? Is LeBron gonna have Numbers? Absolutely, and that’s all he’s gonna have. RINGS AND WINNING MATTER in this debate. 2011 and those finals losses happened. And instead of just saying LeBron needs to eclipse that to be the GOAT, People just ignore winning and chalk up championships as “team accomplishments”. That’s the difference.
Raymond Lee it’s because it’s cringe to hear the fake propaganda the Lebron Stans say. It’s mind blowing how far they stoop to rewrite history to elevate others and pull MJ down. They’re literally comparing a rookie to a vet Lebron who couldn’t win without running for help. MJ developed Pip when Pip was a 7 point bench player. People need to stop trying to overate the guy.
I’m saving, downloading and keeping this clip from this day til my last. Shannon should be prosecuted for murdering Skip on this take! Never have I ever seen Skip look so ridiculous in a debate, he made Shannon’s point for him.
Maybe because Shannon keeps bringing up Lebron's name up when the documentary wasnt even about him. It was about the MJ, Scottie, and the Chicago Bulls.
Perk wasn’t even saying Jordan wasn’t great in the those games. They both were great in games they didn’t win, yet it’s Lebron who’s the only one criticized for it. That’s it
Lift1One he’s not lying. Shannon and you guys are the liars. 63, a playoff record is great in a loss bs the champion Celtics who had the MVP Bird. While Lebron had 8 points vs Dallas. That’s a huge difference and not just Dallas. Lebron scored less than 15 plenty of playoff games. Something MJ has never done win or loss.
Skip lying through his teeth, pippen was 3rd in MVP votes first time Jordan retired and accept as 2nd best player in the league, rodman said "pippen was the best player in the world when MJ retired" it was a Big 2. MJ was best in the league, Pippen was top 4/5 worst case.
@@DonkeyKong5479 in 1994, he was definitely top 5, arguably top 3. He was a guy that could do multiple things on the court at a high level. Can't say that about the most of the guys you mentioned
Jahin Parvez Pippen got better, but he didn’t come into the league that way, and that’s Skip’s and the overall point. If Pippen was a game buster out the gate, that would be different, but Jordan helped make him the player he was. Pippen wasn’t even a starter his first year, and averaged 8 PPG. If when they did win a playoff series, they won because of Mike cause he took Clevelands soul. Tim Grover said it, even Pippen said it. He held ill will against Mike for years for that, that’s why he was saying LeBron was the goat back in 2011.
@@emetechad4621 Scottie the 2nd best player in the league is BS. Scottie wasn't better than 1. Dream 2. Round Mound of Rebound 3. Admiral 4. Human Highlight Film (offensively) 5. Mailman 6. Grant Hill 7. Shaq 8. Glide That's just to name a few. However Scottie was a good player that could do many things very well on the court. A jack of all trades sort of speak
Shaun Phillips yeah he was better then everyone besides Hakeem scoring threat best defender rebounder and elite passer stop lying to yourself he definitely was
Shaun Phillips are you high ? Lol I know you made up that list and don’t even know what was happening in the league Clyde was on his last leg in 98 and was old when Jordan first retired yet Pippen wasn’t better then him ? Mailman was good but he didn’t effect the game as much as Pippen did
Shaun Phillips Shaq was dominate top 5 still Pippen did more in the game then he did. You could say the admiral was better but that’s opinion based a toss up. Grant hill wasn’t even close to Pippen that’s another reach showing again you just throwing out names
Perkins literally said the same thing after Steph dropped 47 and lost in the 2019 finals...the GOAT discussion gets boring honestly...I just miss basketball 🤷🏿♂️
Shaun Phillips And both times MJ made the playoffs his team had a losing record. And people act like the east wasn’t weak in the 80s and 90s. Stop this bs.
@@MarioGhost69419 u do REALIZE that u just proved my point right? The EAST was extremely top heavy at that time. However, the FACT is that MJ DID make the playoffs. Another thing that should be noted was that MJ played less than 20 regular season games because of the BROKEN FOOT INJURY & his consolation prize was 1 of the GREATEST TEAMS OF ALL TIME with 5 HOF on it. So yes he lost, but realistically with NO future HOF other than himself playing, CHI should've gotten SWEPT. Oh & btw they played REAL DEFENSE with real skilled players. So what's the reason for LBJ missing the playoffs in a weaker EASTERN CONFERENCE?
Nobody called MJ a choker for dropping 63 and losing with missing a game winning shot. They gave him "Player of the Game" instead. That's the point, there is a double-standard. The DAY AFTER the 48 special, Skip was on talking about how this actually proved Lebron wasn't clutch since he missed a game winner in regulation. If you honestly don't think there is a double-standard at play, you just as bad as skip lol
Xevaris that’s my point I’m talking about players in today’s age get more criticized people don’t remember the mistakes players made back then because there was no social media
@@willemdee deal with it? Lol It's that way cause LeBron is the only one guaranteed to give consistent numbers every game LeBron is the only constant win or loss
Skips delusional, he literally praised Jordan for getting his team close to beating the Celtics who were unstoppable yet dissed lebron for not getting it done vs gsw. He described the Celtics as unbeatable and it was impressive just to get them in position to win which is what lebron did vs the warriors. Skip is seriously out of his mind
Celtics were unbeatable when Larry bird was playing and MJ scored 63 points against them.Larry Bird at that game said mj is the best player he has ever seen... when did lebron played against larry bird lol. He was refering to mjs documentary watch episode 2 lol
First off lebron never forced overtime against the kd warriors and didn't drob 60. It was more physical back then also and mj was still a baby in the league. And at least with jordan larry literally said mj was god.... kd never said that about lebron. Yes lebron scored alot in I believe game 3 of the finals but proceeded to pout the rest of the games.. jordan kept giving points till it was over.. he went down swinging rather then giving up.
@@lilmike1237 baby MJ in rookie and sophomre year carried the bulls to the playoffs against a celtics team with 4 all stars in their line up. Baby Lebrons rookie and sophomore year missed the playoffs. Big difference.
@@at2130 Jordan aint LeBron, at least he was good enough to take a trash team that no one remembers to the FINALS, some guys have never even seen the finals, and he lost to an all time great team in the Spurs the same team that won 5 championships.
Labarr Jones Jordan retired the first time and Scottie got the Bulls to the ECF without Jordan and when Jordan was in Washington he was washed even Jerry Stackhouse his teammate at the time had to say it
@@allen62 washed is a little extreme averaging 20 points per at 45percent shooting is far from washed it's just not the ridiculous numbers in Chicago. But by all means i dont think anyone who actually saw those seasons questioned how great Scottie was,yet i still fail to see how any of that addresses how Lebron quit in overtime of the finals and Stackhouse said he hated playing with Jordan because he believed he was better Oh and are we now taking the word of Jerry Stackhouse the same person who believed he was better than ALLEN IVERSON
King Savage about some things yes but disagreeing with “perk” no. Lebron is the most scrutinized athlete on the planet even over Kobe my favorite athlete of all time. Lebron has had to endure way more because of “social media” any and everything he does is in the spotlight.
You wouldn’t get it if you don’t get why it actually does matter that it wasn’t a rule then, I don’t know what to tell you. You speak as if Lebron was the first to do it, he was not. If the rule was in place where he had to go to college, guess where he would have been, in college, smh
Beatz Junkie392 Jordan wouldn’t of been the player he was without dean smith. If Jordan came to the nba straight out of high school, with out Dean, he wouldn’t of been who he became. This is an mj vs Lebron conversation so obviously I’m not going to include other players. And I’m pretty sure if LeBron had to go to college, he would’ve only stayed for 1 year.
You wouldn’t get it you do realize Dean Smith was known for holding back his players because he had a system he wanted to play. We shall never know what Jordan was going from high school to NBA but what I do know is, you can’t hold an opportunity that’s wasn’t afforded to him against him, nor can you give Lebron extra credit for it. You could do that with Melo, KD, and all the current players who went to college despite that rule being available but not Jordan.
That did trip me out when I watch the documentary jordan lost yet still got player of the game. That would never happen in today age. The media is so bias flips flop it’s argument so much there never wrong.
Thats because the team he played against was unbeatable. it was 1 vs 8. today aged no one expect an 8 seed to beating Warriors with Durant. Jordan was his second season. So no one expect him to man up against that Celtic team. even Celtic team was surprised that there was someone that is giving them business. LeBron get defended after losing to Mavrick.
9:45 Skip trippin' yo! Scottie Pippen was an MVP candidate when MJ wasn't on the team! In fact, to Shannon's point, Scottie led the Bulls past the first round without MJ. So it's unfair to downplay Scottie's importance to the team!
I love Jordan but praising him for scoring 63 against the Celtics and lose the game 🤷🏽♂️it really isn’t fair that people are not even giving LeBron the respect he deserves for bringing his team back from 3-1 in the finals let’s respect both of their greatness 👌🏽
@@MiniShaQ How is it? LeBron goes for 51 8 8 and loses to an all-time great (if not the greatest) GSW team and Skip constantly berates him for it. MJ scores 63 and loses to an all-time great Celtics team and Skip praises him for it, constantly bringing up the Larry Bird quote. If you listened to the video, Shannon never once argues who's better between MJ and LeBron, he only says treat LBJ to the same standards that Skip treats MJ.
Jacques Dean he gets a ton of respect for that though? Nobody ever disrespect that performance. But you need to understand the context of MJ and the 63 points.
@@alezflores no logical basketball fan would even think lbj would win the chip in 07. We only give him credit for getting there. The spurs were top 5 in offense and defense and they won the chip 2 yrs prior. The cavs weren't even a top 15 offensive team.
@electricmole 1st i don't give lbj a pass for that he choked no logical nba fan gives him a pass he doesn't even excuse himself for that. Why are you acting as if that mavs team wasn't good that was a vet team with great depth. That mavs team swept the defending champion lakers to the point ron artest damn near ripped jj barreas head off with a clothline mid air
@electricmole did i say that mavs team was a superteam ppl discredit that mavs team because lebron choked even if lbj didn't that mavs team was still a good team regardless with vets and depth. I hope your not trying to compare that mavs team to the 07 cavs
@electricmole where do i say the mavs are a superteam there is a difference between a vet team with depth and a superteam. You really are hating on lbj that much that your discrediting the spurs who have 20 yrs of consistency in the postseason. Don't bring up mj when was getting swept at the same age every year. The mavs had a deep team where a team lacks in star power depth of a team makes it up as a team. The mavs beat the lakers, okc, and trailblazers no game 7s and beat the heat no game 7s that's where the depth comes in if lbj performed up to par the mavs wouldn't win but don't use lbj choking as an excuse to discredit that team that won 57 games. And dont compare the spurs or mavs to that 07 cavs roster to discredit them to hate on lbj just so you can gas jordan
I've got something.. Name me another loss besides "The Black Sox" situation which was cheating that ANYONE REMEMBERS... Let alone FOR VALIANT EFFORT BY A LOSING TEAM OR PLAYER... (time goes by) Oh... That's right... YOU CAN'T!!! goodnight
@@kdubbss0583 He pretty much pointed out that mj can do no wrong but bron can only do wrong...bron is over scrutinized ... it's quite ridiculous honestly
In Bron's second year they went 42-40. He had a winning record and missed the playoffs. Mike's first two years they had losing records and made the playoffs.
You're crazy... He never was the second best player in the NBA. Wasn't better then Hakeem ,Charles, David Robinson, Malone, ( to name a few) Pip was great and key piece on that Bulls Squad but Never was the second best player in the NBA.
LOVE me some Chamberlain, MJ and LeBron but LeBron never gets his due. Critized for everything he does. Ask Skip what Jordan was doing the night before the "Flu game"? Best kept secret. What was the Bulls record in 97-98 when Pippen was out?
I think people are mad that Lebron didnt play in the era when it was okay to be rough and physical...like the types of beatings Jordan took back in the day, physically, that Lebron was kinda spared from all that....never had to play against the likes or Oakley, Anthony Mason, Bill Lambeer etc.
bill smith Nah I was watching the games recently. The defense is massively overrated. More players were definitely playing defense but the defensive schemes and players weren’t as good as we’ve been told. I’m glad this came out cause it gave me the interest to go back and watch old MJ games.
keep appreciating the goat, you can't take nothing away from MJ. Lebron is good for the era but MJ is the Goat period and don't matter what Goofy Shannon, Perkins, talking the media now is tampered by Lebron instead of just letting his game show he trying hard to take a spot that just not for him. He got his own lane (period)
Why did you think he was perfect? I mean he’s the greatest but no one is perfect and Shannon keeps forgetting that yes he missed the shot but he was the only true scorer on his team and he was in his second o.t. It’s hard to walk with no legs under you.
Outlaw JBC imagine lebron with phil Jackson and Scotty pippen vs an aging Celtics and lakers and pistons then after those teams... imagine lebron with Phil and Scotty playing against teams like the Utah Jazz in the finals. Then imagine lebron personal life (mistress/gambling) wasn’t a mess so he didn’t have to take two years off (actually suspended by the league) - I can imagine 10 titles - basically Jordan under achieved lol
@@DOnONe733 you know why i cant imagine it. Because lebron is uncoachable. Jordan was great because he could be coached. Lebron has had one style of play and it's been the same his whole career. It's a reason he gets praise too, so dont say imagine if he had a great coach. Jordan's respect for the game let himself be coached and it made him, scottie and phil legendary Lebron got all his coaches fired. None of his coaches had the chance to be great.
TheRecks33 I see ur point, not sure I agree. Lebrons game has evolved as his athleticism declined. Lebron is a savant, basketball genius. Michael was just a killer (killer will, killer game)
Shannon said at 9.30 Jordan got swept in every series without Pippen. The Bulls went 1-3 against the Bucks in the 85 playoffs Jordan's rookie year so his facts are wrong.
I love Mike to death and Lebron but I'm sick of these comparisons! It's all hype and delusion. They are two entirely different players from two extremely different eras! As far as Scottie Pippen how soon we forget the greatness he added to MJ and the Bulls. He attacked the rim and defended just as viciously as MJ did! He defensively shut down a lot of the greats of back then. He was a top 5 player in the years of those championship runs. Put some respect on that man name!!!!
No he wasn't. Hakeem, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone and Shaq were all better and Grant Hill's numbers offensively across the board were better from the time he stepped into the league
@@elbowgang9715 stop tripping and hating on Scottie. Numbers and stats don't say it all. Notice I said top five meaning not just with offense. He was on a team with MJ of course his numbers won't jump out at you offensively but all around Scottie was better than half those dudes on your list. Half of them don't even have rings because of Scottie's defense. Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and David Robertson come on now! Shaq couldn't even deal with Dennis Rodman in those championship runs! MJ and Scottie ran the 90's even when Jordan retired Scottie got them to 55 wins and that's facts plus all star MVP!
@@tangaraspeedgoda7436 unbelievable another Pipen hater!!How dare you say you "like Scottie" and have the nerve to disrespect him at the same time! MJ literally said and I quote "there is no MJ without Scottie!. You guys obviously got issues. To each is own but don't tell me nothing about Scottie. MJ didn't win one NBA title without him! Facts! MJ also said if Scottie would have gotten traded after his 1st retirement he would've even came back. Go somewhere and play with somebody else! I'm from Chicago and the 90's was my hay day! I lived through that glory up close and personal!
@@chitownstaydown8856 I don't give a damn about who you are. I respect Scottie but I'm not gonna lie about him. He was never a top 5 player in the league in the 90's. Jordan didn't win a title without him but Jordan could have won with many other players. You guys are alking as if Pip was the only player that could fit Jordan. If you were really around at that time first of all, you know Jordan mentored Pippen to become a great player and he was. But not top 5 player...at no point of time was he a top 5 player. That's a straight up lie. "Another Pippen hater..." GTFOH
I love how skip never answers Shannon's questions. Because he knows Shannon knows what he's talking about. It's evident that Skip is hypocritical. Shouldn't be a caster
@@westbrookthegoat576 all the time. He either says yes or no or I agree or disagree. If Shannon asks skip a question about LeBron that helps his argument skip will bypass the question by making another statment or saying "we will talk about that later"
The most gifted Scorer in NBA history joined the greatest shooter in NBA history, and the second greatest shooter in NBA history to face LeBron James. I’m supposed to diminish LeBron when facing those odds? No sir.
Shane Scully lmao 😂 truth hurts, watch the excuses start he had no team, still lost with El heat first season so what’s all the hype about??? The frozen one is a legend like many but never the second best player ever yet fifth at most for me. He ain’t better than bird 🦅 magic 🎩 Kareem or MJ so why are we even talking 🤷🏽♂️ Kobe maybe personally I think I’m taking Kobe. Worse free throw shooter in the all time top ten enough said. But Bron is the best of his era no contest.
@@alezflores mean while dappin up his son and throwing down tomahawk dunks... hes a quitter when the tough gets going lebron mails it in. The 3-1 ring watch game 4 he starts playing real dirty tries to foot trip curry gets draymond suspended and then curry and klay are in foul trouble games 5 and 6 or 6 and 7. Bigger sample size look at last season he seen that roster isn't ring material.... "actually im injured after declaring playoff mode" Also watch how lazy and inactive he is off the ball.
Julian Reese I can swear James harden took that team to 7 games while lebron and his 2 other all stars lost 4-1 and the clippers took that same team with no star to 6 games while lebron and love got swept 🤷🏾♂️
Skip Bayless tactic: pretend the sporting world is pro-LeBron James, even though most people in the media are Jordan fanboys who universally accept him as the GOAT, and anybody who says otherwise to be blasphemous and heretical.
Skip is being such a hypocrite it’s laughable l. He literally praised MJ to getting it into overtime n didn’t care he got swept? Why doesn’t he have the same energy for Lebron
Reginald Walton the ups where greater than the downs and mike never Made excuses. Your man bron needs every excuse after every loss. The problem with bron is he doesn’t belong in the same class as mj. That’s the bigger issue. Mike has accomplished more in a 13 year career then bron has accomplished in 17 years
Michael Sanders What did Phil win before Jordan? Stop acting like he won something before Jordan. While MJ was out for the 93/94 season, Bulls had 3 All Stars n they didn’t even make the ECF.
Michael Sanders Phil was a rookie when he got to Mike, you have to stick with coaches for them to become hof. Bron runs everytime things get rocky. Spokstra is a great coach
@@LandStrider23 Why do you crackheads always have to assume that defending Lebrons greatness means thinking he's the goat? Mj is the goat. But not having lebron as 2nd and deminish his greatness is just being stupid and ignorant
So we’re going to act like MJ didn’t freeze up in Game 5 of the 1989 ECF? Bulls down by 1 at the start of the 4th Qtr and MJ disappears scoring only 1 freaking point the entire Qtr... Bulls lose the game.
Brian Dillon Can’t argue with men who never scored 51-8-8 in a playoff game and have two idiot teammates take it away. Also recently I heard Jr say if they won that game.. so what, they would’ve lost in 5 anyway.... that’s exactly why LeBron was mad because that’s dudes mentality for real.
Gotta hurt when people know facts like that. Lbj 2010 went against 2 allstars ray allen rondo. And players like Rasheed Wallace off the bench who is a great player period. Against lbj delonge west mo William's varejao. Took them 7 with no help and the narrative was lebron ran naw I cant beat a team by myself years later kg we ran him out we knew he couldn't beat 5 of us.... like that's greatness basketball is 5 on 5 and when kg statement is u knew he couldn't beat u 5 means u know if he had just 1 other person he would have. Scottie pippen is mj clutch lebron Anthony Davis is closet player to scottie greatness
Lmao, comparing Scottie winning in the playoffs without MJ after they 3-peated, having the same coach, same team, same system vs MJ not winning without Pip before having any of that in place, nice argument 😂😂😂
@@kevinjoseph1172 Scottie pushed the Lakers to a game 7 in the 2000 Western Conference Finals with Portland. They both had careers after Chicago, Scottie just proved more by himself.
@@kevinjoseph1172 How could they have the same system and same team if MJ wasn't on it, nice argument 😂😂 Also, the argument wasn't saying Pippen was better than MJ it was saying how good Pippen actually was
@@CPM9999 so phil jackson wasnt the coach? The roster was completely different from the year prior when MJ was on it? Did they not run the triangle offense? So that tells me same coach, same team, same system, minus MJ. Yes I know what the argument was, I know Pip was an amazing player, but to say MJ cant win a playoff series without Pip, but Pip can without MJ, really though? You mean the Pip that went to Houston, lost in the first round, then the next year goes to Portland, the team that the year prior was in the WCF? Lol ya nice try bud
good grief can we stop with all of this ,Michael Jordan , LeBron James ,Kobe Bryant they're all different players with different skill sets they are not the same person playing the same position
What are your thoughts on Kendrick Perkins' tweet?
I’m a better free throw shooter than Perkins
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED it’s facts
Kendrick crazy just like SHANNON!!!
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED RAdda count a million
MJ WAS A BABY🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 so perk is wrong and Shannon is always contradicting himself
Well, we know 4 things for sure
1. Skip loves Michael Jordan's middle name
2. Skip is a hypocrite when it comes to LBJ vs MJ
3. Skip has covered every sporting event in the history of our country
4. LBJ could win the chip, sweep the Clippers in the Western Conference Finals and sweep the bucks in the finals, win finals MVP, win regular season MVP, average a triple double for the finals but id he made one pass to danny green to hit a winning shot in a game in the finals, skip would say, "he's afraid of the moment" "Michael Jeffrey Jordan would have taken that shot"
Sadly and it's for reasons like that I find it hard to watch the program once Skippy begins to talk.
Facts
You dreaming dude
Stupid take. Shannon made up today that Michael got swept till pippen got there. Mj didn’t get swept as a rookie actually. The only hypocrite is Shannon. Even a liar when he’s making this up. Y’all just don’t have b ball knowledge? We supposed to care that he stat pads? Who cares when you lose. 6-0 with a guy who has more accolades in less time and never shrank. Or 3-6 against a guy who shrank many times? What he do? Beat an overrated gs? Who blew a 3-1 lead? Okc blew a 3-1 lead vs Gs. Rockets had to miss 27 threes in a row to lose by 9. If they hit 15 percent bye bye gs. Winners take theirs not wait to see if the other teams a choker. Lbj. Beat Tim d at 37-38 and Manu at 35 while in a super team. And they beat okc. No one says okc the best team ever or close.
Skip the only one giving you the real. Everyone praising lbj for nothing.
If he was on the west he probably wouldn’t even have 3 finals! Since he beat the best team in the west three times. But you have to consider if he played okc, sa, gs. Two or theee of then in a row he would have collapsed at least once, given his track record. Cough mavs series.
So we should praise him for being so strong and fast with no big men and easy rules and being in the leastern conference? That’s the problem we got real expectations that’s why we know a goat when see one.
Alex Jimenez 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The disrespect for Scottie Pippen has got to stop! Michael Jordan has repeatedly said you can't say Michael Jordan without saying Scottie Pippen. He said it in his HOF speech he said it in the documentary. Jordan also said in Barcelona during his time with the dream team that he learned that Scottie Pippen at that time was the best all round player in the NBA. Jordan said that Pippen out played, Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Clyde Drexler and everyone else including Jordan himself from time to time. Those are Jordan's words. It's an easy quote to find for anyone interested.
What is he supposed to say at no point in time did Scottie out play Magic, but I will give u this Pip was a gr8 defender but Pip never ever wanted to face the Pistons (He Was Shook) facing them I remember Scottie was so afraid of the Bad Boys he got a headache and sat out the most important game at that time for the Bulls. He did redeem himself against the Lakers by guarding Magic in game 2 of the finals bc game 1 Magic was destroying MJ and Phil made the change and the rest his HISTORY!!
Very underrated. But he was not the second best player in the league, ever.
Yeah but DWade > Scottie pippin if Jordan had the heat team bron had he’d have 10 rings easily.
@@redskinsxvii Exactly; nothing against Pip but to me he got that top billing bc he played with MJ along with his defensive prowess
@@ifeellikeyeezus8525 Today competition IS MUCH BETTER. These White dudes won't ever make it in today's NBA. It's like college. LOW SCORES OR BAD GPA WONT MAKE IT TO TOP SCHOOL. As time pass, people become better and evolve.
Skip was never popular in high school
TJ Smith he average 1.4 points a game in high school
@@youwouldntgetit3792 I suck at basketball and averaged more points in my middle school league, my team even made it to the finals, even though we lost.
He popular now🤷🏽♂️
I'm sure this really bothers Skip now that he's a millionaire
@@fredo3times he popular cause of lebron
LeBron definitely lived up to the hype. Drafted a superstar. 17 years later still the best in the NBA. 👑
What you mean by "still"? And have you ever heard about Kawhi Leonard? Kevin Durant? Giannis Antetokoumpo? Lebron is not the best and has not been for quite some time now.
@@tangaraspeedgoda7436 I hear you but you are missing the all around point. Lebron james is still the best player in the NBA today. Gianni's A is a really good player but look what happened to him when his team really needed him. He allowed Kawei Lennord to to take him out of his game after being up 2 to 0 against the Philadelphia 76er's. Gianni A is a good player but his team needed him to be "Great" and he did not deliver. Kawei Lennord is another very good player and his defense is first class but Kawei Lennord lacks in comparison to a player like Lebron james. Kawei Lennord does not have the personality that it takes to make his teammates perform at a higher level in crucial big game moments. Like I said KAWEI Lennord is a very good player matter of fact he is one of the top 3 players in the league but he is not the best player as you can see by the flaws that I have mentioned about his game. Last but not least you have Kevin Durant. This is another outstanding player and a prolific scorer. There isn't a player in any league that can stop KD from getting his shot off and it is simply bc the brother has a 7ft 6" wingspan he has a handle combined with a deadly accurate jumpshot from wherever he decides to pull up. All that being said he is not better than LEBRON for the simple fact KD is not an Alpha-Dog on the floor. If you can remember when KEVIN Durant was playing for the O.KC THUNDER Russell Westbrook was the Alpha male on that team and it wasn't hard to tell. Russell Westbrook took more shots than Kevin Durant.. Of course Westbrook had the ball in his hand a lot but Russell Westbrook had more game winning attempts than KD in the same year that KD won the scoring title. Westbrook was able to continue with his erratic playing style bc he was the Alpha male and KD was his sidekick... Bottom line is KEVIN DURANT does not know how to be a "Leader" he is one of the best that ever laced em up but he just doesn't have what it takes to make his teammates respect him as a leader or to make his teammates believe that they are better than what they really are during the season and when they are in big games during crucial moments when there is no room for slackin. These are the times when LeBron James "greatness" comes to life..Hey, it is what it is..
Timothy Holden preach my guy preach
Tangara Speedgoda bro quite watching highlights, you know nothing lol. Lebron is still the best and still the face of the nba
@@GGdork He's still the face of the nba, that's true...that's a choice of the nba for whatever reason. But he's far from being the best...unless you have a different definition of being "the best".
Shannon has a point here. Skips just doesnt accept Bron's greatness.
He minimizes MJ fails but goes crazy when same thing happens to Bron.
That's also a two way street. Shannon tends to try and downplay what Jordan did while pretending everything Lebron did was 100% all him. Ignoring all the greats he played with.
Ed Ch love Shannon but he & others do the same for Lebron exact same way you just think you described MJ
Honestly the difference is that Jordan took the L’s like a man and gave his all until the buzzer. Lebron on the other hands, for some strange reason, will sometimes began to have a mental breakdown or plays passive in an important game. I never understood that about him. I knew what I was getting from MJ every night. Lebron on the other hand, I never know who showing up. Passive Lebron, Mentally Fragile Lebron, King James, or etc.
That’s just bs!! MJ never won and got swept without Pippen. How about that for now showing up? He didn’t win a play off series without Pippen ?? Is that what you meant by you know what you got. You Jordan fan boys are cringe.
He's literally doing it here right now
Yea LeBron mos def gets judge differently then others. Love him or hate him
Feel bad for the dude he seems like a nice guy. This social media age will crucify a person tho
Utube are you a good person by living waters
John Stockton it’s true. MJ never had yo live up to high expectations n Lebron since high school has been getting hated on. Imagine hating a guy since a kid. Lebron is easily the most scrutinized athlete ever lol skip is literally criticizing Lebron for not getting criticized enough? I hope he doesn’t see how ironic that is lol
High School LBJ you are wrong. If he is not called the greatest of all time everybody comes out and criticizes and calls people haters. The only reason he gets criticized as badly as he does when talking about this conversation is because he is being compared to the greatest of all time because he has said things like I am chasing The ghost in Chicago so if he has put undue criticism on himself it is because he has dared to try to say that he is the best ever when he isn’t. When people talk about LeBron and don’t mention the greatest of all time discussion he is given nothing but adulation but that’s never mentioned because LeBron always has to be a victim. I have never seen people talk with more excuses in adulation or somebody than people do about LeBron now.
when you call yourself the best player in nba history you get a target on your head he did it to himself...when someone asked jordan how do you feel about being the greatest player ever he goes "i wouldn't say that and its not fair for the past greats that i couldn't compete against so i wouldn't call myself the greatest ever" thats the difference young boy
What about Skip saying MJ would never hang out with other players??? What about golfing with Danny Ainge before a playoff game??
You dont understand the ninja assassin that was Jordan he was just pretending to golf with him to gain a mental edge -Skip
New Royal. Lol that’s exactly how he would’ve played it off.
New Royal. 😂😂
It's well known fact that Mike and Charles Barkley were best friends, and hung out all the time. Yes players hung out back then as well, they just didn't discuss teaming up.
@@itsmike5757 EXACTLY LMAO
Shannon is right in 19:00 onwards. People are always gonna pick their GOAT LeBron or MJ but people need to be honest and remember the bads of MJ too. He was not perfect
No ELITE & GREAT player is perfect. Nobody says or seriously thinks that the GOAT MJ is perfect. MJ got his fair share of media criticism as well. There just wasn't social media then that has a 24 hour fans commenting on everything & debate shows
Facts
Shaun Phillips I guess it’s people like skip who are the problem
@@louischampagnon3670 it's NOT just Skip but Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright & a couple of others. They don't use CONTEXT when speaking. All ELITE & GREAT PLAYERS NEED another star or deep team to win chips. Albeit SOME needed MORE HELP than others
Shaun Phillips uncle Shay sharpe always says The greats needs help to get chips, it’s not a one person team tbh pippen had better stats than mj, mj just had more points
Scottie Pippen was "pretty good??"
Skip will downplay anything just to make something fit his narrative. Smh
Agreed. He also diminishes other players while also boosting MJ.
MJ always bring Pippen with him he never credited his stellar career all for himself. They are inseparable, they make each other better, theyre simply a match made in heaven and it wasnt even forced but it was slowly developed through practice and playing together longer. LeBron was a different story, he wanted help that are already all star calibers that is why he never made good chemistry, if that fails he jumps ship once again and again. Nothing but a ring chaser
@A M Skip has no sense for how savage Scottie was
Noooo pippen career # is 16.8 . Wade career is 23.7 really !!!! Let mj HAVE TWO ALL STAR THAT BEEN ON THEY OWN TEAM & HE JOIN THEM.
Terrence PERKINS not all about scoring... smh, Pippen is a better player all around and the best wing defender I ever saw...
Did Skip just call Scottie “pretty good?” *HE WAS THE BEST SMALL FORWARD OF THE DECADE* 😂😂
D-Wade was also declining by the time LeBron went to South Beach. Injuries and age were kicking in.
G Lyle how do you misspell forward 🤦🏽♂️
Lil Rock 44 it’s a mistype-obviously E is right new to W and everybody hits it in the middle from time. Nice try tho
G Lyle it wasn’t a nice try it was actually fact but ok
G Lyle indeed
I like how Skip doesn’t answer any of Shannon’s questions and then asks him more questions to cover up 😂😂
The Darkfrost FACTS !!!!
Lol Shannon didn't answer either. He talked all that smoke saying Jordan didn't do anything without pippen but when skip mentioned LeBron didn't even make the playoffs his first two seasons he changed the topic
He had more wins than Jordan and didn't make the playoffs...the east was weak back when MJ played too lmao
Mac Warren but Lebron had better records than Jordon in their first two seasons. More teams in the game now
Mac Warren I wasn’t buying that comparison when they got into that part. Jordan had college experience. First couple years in the league was pretty much LeBron’s college experience, and it was nothing like playing on North Carolina and going through the NCAA tournament.
Skip crewing his face up when shannon hits him with facts 😂
Ok lbj is the goat the. Hahaa
cameron malcolm his reactions were the best😂
Cause he be dead wrong 😂
Right
Skip dnt know wtf hes talkn about..
Skip dancing around the fact that Shannon brought up, Jordan missed the last shot and didn't win. Skip talking about how his team wasn't good. How about the 2018 Cleveland team that lost to Steph KD Klay and Draymond?
And I get he's an accomplished analyst and I'll never take anything away from that, he does however use stats out of context a ton and ignores direct questions by bringing something else up to move away from the question that was asked. But hey I'm just a random guy on the internet.
@@tyrescelite3146 you talking about the year the Cavs got swept???
@@stephenasunnamedsource2943 yes that's the point. Ppl dimish what lebron did while getting swept deeper in the playoffs against a better team with about the same amount of help.
Camaron Mazyck but LeBron fans do the same to diminish Jordan.
Tyresce Lite Bron never made a finals game winner or tying shot in 9 appearances Mj did 1991 game 3 to force overtime with Pippen fouled out then won in overtime.
Lebron is the most loved and most hated player off all time🤦🏾♂️
He should have never put on 23 an he would have been straight.
@@NHCS24 ha?
@@NHCS24 he played in #6 too n still the same lol
Loved???HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAH
@Kawhi’s Uncle Dennis i dont bruhn !
Y'all better not dare give Bron his roses when he's no longer in this world!! 😤😤
they act like two legends cannot coexist
Mike Hungcho no one ever said they couldn’t. He is just not better than Jordan. Period. It’s that simple. But people will argue it with their last dying breath.
Nice quotes but it shouldnt be an argument
Nice jcole reference lol
@Show Genius no its disgusting how Kobe is just skipped over in the debate when its a better, closer argument...hes better defensively with a record 9 defensive 1st teams funny how defense wins championships...offensively theres no question.. went 2-1 in the finals with Gasol as his Robin who Bosh is better than... in a waaay harder west with the spurs as an appetizer every year. This was MJs son and hes arguably better at basketball the lebron
Show Genius I’m a LeBron fan, so how is having LeBron in the top 5 (Many say top 2, I have him top 4) not in the same breath as all time greats? Is LeBron gonna have Numbers? Absolutely, and that’s all he’s gonna have. RINGS AND WINNING MATTER in this debate. 2011 and those finals losses happened. And instead of just saying LeBron needs to eclipse that to be the GOAT, People just ignore winning and chalk up championships as “team accomplishments”. That’s the difference.
Skip’s Scottie Pippen comment has cancelled his Cook out pass. He is venturing into Max Kellerman territory.
They both sittin in sports purgatory, bored & hungry af!! Lmao
Pippen avg. 17 ppts smh that's not great.
Skip looks in so much pain. Look at his face when Shay speaking
Of course, on Lebron topics Shannon is straight blasphemous.
Nah he just looks dumbfounded from the nonsense being spoken
@@johnpeterson2391 bro, you messing with us?
Raymond Lee it’s because it’s cringe to hear the fake propaganda the Lebron Stans say. It’s mind blowing how far they stoop to rewrite history to elevate others and pull MJ down. They’re literally comparing a rookie to a vet Lebron who couldn’t win without running for help. MJ developed Pip when Pip was a 7 point bench player. People need to stop trying to overate the guy.
Fuddyduddie1 a rookie to a vet? You call a 22year old lebron a VET?... you must be 1 of the fans that voted for mj as the best college player ever🤣🤣
Skip never answered Shannon question but deflected it like a tennis player
I’m saving, downloading and keeping this clip from this day til my last. Shannon should be prosecuted for murdering Skip on this take! Never have I ever seen Skip look so ridiculous in a debate, he made Shannon’s point for him.
Jahmil Effend cooked him. Never seen skip look this bad 🤣
COOOOOKED!!!!!
True that he killed him
Yeah it’s safe to say Shannon was the undisputed winner of this debate
He need to hang his webcam up and worry bout quarantining
Yeah, y’all high-key acting like MJ was moonwalking on the court all his life with no friction.
Ikr its comical that's them Jordan fans for you
Which MJ?
@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 good question haha
This documentary is fire, but these sport pundants won't let us enjoy it. Constantly bringing up MJ vs LBJ, like damn
So stop watching
Stop watching or shut up
You are correct
Topic always turns to LBJ vs MJ too soon lol
What's new?
there's a reason why Lebron is always in the context even though he's not in that documentary, that's how great Lebron was. 👑👑
Adrian Borja Facts they don’t even realize it
IS*
Maybe because Shannon keeps bringing up Lebron's name up when the documentary wasnt even about him. It was about the MJ, Scottie, and the Chicago Bulls.
@@FireAngelChris Lebron is great. Jordan is the GOAT.
Duane Bell u do know GOAT is greatest of all time & times change so one day Lebron will be the GOAT
How was Scottie just a good robin but the bulls had almost the same record when mj retired ?
Michael Hurt having the best coach ever helps
Nick Stanley is take Greg pop buts it’s debatable
I’d
Cause he wasn’t the best when he was with the knicks
thats called good coaching and running a great nba system
we retooled that team
“I’ve been to a lot of continents but I’ve never seen this animal- whats’s a “yeahbut”?”
LMAO
No matter what anyone says or what LeBron does , that hate in Skip heart jus
Too much 😢
Jalin Clemons it’s immense
Facts
Perk wasn’t even saying Jordan wasn’t great in the those games. They both were great in games they didn’t win, yet it’s Lebron who’s the only one criticized for it. That’s it
Why you crying ??? You people are hilarious
@King Savage skip got these fanboys in their feelings
Shannon violated skip in this debate. Skip is to bias when it comes to MJ and Lebron
ajp135212 rite bro
ajp135212 and Shannon isn’t?
ajp135212 how? Jordan actually played well in his losses when Lebron didn’t
@SuperPunch76 goes both ways, Skip is also heavily biased towards MJ
Lift1One he’s not lying. Shannon and you guys are the liars. 63, a playoff record is great in a loss bs the champion Celtics who had the MVP Bird. While Lebron had 8 points vs Dallas. That’s a huge difference and not just Dallas. Lebron scored less than 15 plenty of playoff games. Something MJ has never done win or loss.
Skip lying through his teeth, pippen was 3rd in MVP votes first time Jordan retired and accept as 2nd best player in the league, rodman said "pippen was the best player in the world when MJ retired" it was a Big 2. MJ was best in the league, Pippen was top 4/5 worst case.
EXACTLY. Jordan stans easily forget what how good scottie and bulls were when he first retired
Except that Pippen was really hurt the last 2 games, more so the last one. So the big one won it the last game scoring 45 in a 87-86 win
Pippen was never better than Hakeem, Malone, Barkley, Shaq or D Rob. Stop with that nonsense.
@@DonkeyKong5479 in 1994, he was definitely top 5, arguably top 3. He was a guy that could do multiple things on the court at a high level. Can't say that about the most of the guys you mentioned
Jahin Parvez Pippen got better, but he didn’t come into the league that way, and that’s Skip’s and the overall point. If Pippen was a game buster out the gate, that would be different, but Jordan helped make him the player he was. Pippen wasn’t even a starter his first year, and averaged 8 PPG. If when they did win a playoff series, they won because of Mike cause he took Clevelands soul. Tim Grover said it, even Pippen said it. He held ill will against Mike for years for that, that’s why he was saying LeBron was the goat back in 2011.
Scottie disrespect Is crazy when Mike never won without him
Justin facts Scottie was the second best player in the league both times mike retired you argue he was the best in the league at those times lol
@@emetechad4621 Scottie the 2nd best player in the league is BS. Scottie wasn't better than
1. Dream
2. Round Mound of Rebound
3. Admiral
4. Human Highlight Film (offensively)
5. Mailman
6. Grant Hill
7. Shaq
8. Glide
That's just to name a few. However Scottie was a good player that could do many things very well on the court. A jack of all trades sort of speak
Shaun Phillips yeah he was better then everyone besides Hakeem scoring threat best defender rebounder and elite passer stop lying to yourself he definitely was
Shaun Phillips are you high ? Lol I know you made up that list and don’t even know what was happening in the league Clyde was on his last leg in 98 and was old when Jordan first retired yet Pippen wasn’t better then him ? Mailman was good but he didn’t effect the game as much as Pippen did
Shaun Phillips Shaq was dominate top 5 still Pippen did more in the game then he did. You could say the admiral was better but that’s opinion based a toss up. Grant hill wasn’t even close to Pippen that’s another reach showing again you just throwing out names
Perkins literally said the same thing after Steph dropped 47 and lost in the 2019 finals...the GOAT discussion gets boring honestly...I just miss basketball 🤷🏿♂️
agreed
Same and Perkins a damn fool when talking about comparisons or goat discussions.
Thought your surname said "msunu" I was like whatttttt 🤣
Curry is not a top 10 player of all time and never will be without a fmvp
@@TheFlowBrothers ok
I love how Skip tries to argue for Jordan, but ends up proving Shannon’sand Perkin’s point.
Samuel Sosa WYM it’s not my fault the media has a double standard when they compare LeBron to MJ and other players.
Samuel Sosa MJsexual
@Jacob Vanderhooft MJ making the playoffs his 1st 2 years. LBJ MISSED the playoffs his 1st 2 years. Stop with the nonsense & BS
Shaun Phillips And both times MJ made the playoffs his team had a losing record. And people act like the east wasn’t weak in the 80s and 90s. Stop this bs.
@@MarioGhost69419 u do REALIZE that u just proved my point right? The EAST was extremely top heavy at that time. However, the FACT is that MJ DID make the playoffs. Another thing that should be noted was that MJ played less than 20 regular season games because of the BROKEN FOOT INJURY & his consolation prize was 1 of the GREATEST TEAMS OF ALL TIME with 5 HOF on it. So yes he lost, but realistically with NO future HOF other than himself playing, CHI should've gotten SWEPT. Oh & btw they played REAL DEFENSE with real skilled players. So what's the reason for LBJ missing the playoffs in a weaker EASTERN CONFERENCE?
Skip literally lied for 10 minutes and acted like his argument was legit lmao
Ohnide Krž 😂😂😂😂
Ohnide Krž where did he lie?
Lmaoooo deadass
Lmao
What lie did he tell?
Skip is Michael Jordan’s personal cheerleader god damn 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Skip dreams about having his own blacked scene with MJ
Big Body Benz w
Lmaoooo
😭🐐
bruh 😂
Big Body Benz and lebron
The Dallas Mavericks that beat goat James swept Kobe Bryant and the two time defending nba champions just saying
Ahmad Raza Gondal They Don’t Mention That Tho🥱
Ahmad Raza Gondal Kobe didn’t have a superstar like D wade or an Chris bish on his team as well
James Jackson But They Was Still Champions...
Because they want the narrative to be that the Mavericks weren’t a good squad .
Who was on that team with Kobe?
It’s true lebron or not if you drop 50 points in the playoffs but lose everyone calls you a choker
He’s the only one that gets credit when his team wins also. Deal with it.
@@willemdee wrong
Nobody called MJ a choker for dropping 63 and losing with missing a game winning shot. They gave him "Player of the Game" instead. That's the point, there is a double-standard.
The DAY AFTER the 48 special, Skip was on talking about how this actually proved Lebron wasn't clutch since he missed a game winner in regulation.
If you honestly don't think there is a double-standard at play, you just as bad as skip lol
Xevaris that’s my point I’m talking about players in today’s age get more criticized people don’t remember the mistakes players made back then because there was no social media
@@willemdee deal with it? Lol
It's that way cause LeBron is the only one guaranteed to give consistent numbers every game
LeBron is the only constant win or loss
I like how when Shannon cuts into "Now the SAME very people" and the screen zooms out to show Skip LMAO 1:00
😂😂😂😂 Didn't even notice! 😂😂😂
Skip obviously a Bron's hater😂 Skip the Weak👎😂
Nick Waldrop I just noticed that now b/c of u !
9:38 Whenever Shannon does the trademark " I got you now " sniffle you know Skip's in trouble. Lol
loveeeee it!!!!!!!!! lmaooooo skip having to admit you need your teammates to show up in order to be competitive in the finals is absolute gold
He's tried to hold off on saying that forever but Shannon finally backed him into a corner 😆
“Noah was accused of drunkenness” lol love this show man These two are hilarious but yeah, Shannon’s right sorry Skipper 😂
Big FACTs
Nah skip is right this time
Skips delusional, he literally praised Jordan for getting his team close to beating the Celtics who were unstoppable yet dissed lebron for not getting it done vs gsw. He described the Celtics as unbeatable and it was impressive just to get them in position to win which is what lebron did vs the warriors. Skip is seriously out of his mind
Celtics were unbeatable when Larry bird was playing and MJ scored 63 points against them.Larry Bird at that game said mj is the best player he has ever seen... when did lebron played against larry bird lol. He was refering to mjs documentary watch episode 2 lol
Zman Kicks he’s in his sophomore year off an injury, and he dropped the NBA all time record for points in a double over time game. That’s crazy
First off lebron never forced overtime against the kd warriors and didn't drob 60. It was more physical back then also and mj was still a baby in the league. And at least with jordan larry literally said mj was god.... kd never said that about lebron. Yes lebron scored alot in I believe game 3 of the finals but proceeded to pout the rest of the games.. jordan kept giving points till it was over.. he went down swinging rather then giving up.
Matt Clark he was a baby not even getting past the first round but lebron as a baby is carrying Cleveland on his back big difference
@@lilmike1237 baby MJ in rookie and sophomre year carried the bulls to the playoffs against a celtics team with 4 all stars in their line up. Baby Lebrons rookie and sophomore year missed the playoffs. Big difference.
As soon as I heard Uncle Shay saying "one trillion percent" I just liked the video 😂😂😂😂
Persian Warrior who laugh?
@Persian Warrior not funny bro delete this
Skip is so used to lying that he actually is starting to believe the BS he’s spewing 😭
Word!
The thing is skip does actually believe what he says really
Skip is right
Kasper Skøtt Shannon does the same
@@kdubbss0583 nowhere
Near what skip does...not even
A little..The man denograted Lebron
For riding a bike...He be reaching.
14:50 sealed it. 22 getting swept in the finals vs 23 getting swept in the first round.
No context. The Celtics were an all time great team and Jordan pushed them to the limit practically by himself. Brons great he aint jordan.
Alex Tafoya what were the spurs
And the spurs weren’t? 😂😂
@@at2130 pushed them to the brink yet got swept? Interesting
@@at2130 Jordan aint LeBron, at least he was good enough to take a trash team that no one remembers to the FINALS, some guys have never even seen the finals, and he lost to an all time great team in the Spurs the same team that won 5 championships.
"22 getting swept in the finals or 23 getting swept in the first round?" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Shannon my guy mane
You do the math😂😂😂
Skip be looking dumbfounded when snannon spits facts💀💀
Lebron quit in that overtime Jordan would never have quit
Labarr Jones Jordan retired the first time and Scottie got the Bulls to the ECF without Jordan and when Jordan was in Washington he was washed even Jerry Stackhouse his teammate at the time had to say it
TRUE!!!!
@@allen62 washed is a little extreme averaging 20 points per at 45percent shooting is far from washed it's just not the ridiculous numbers in Chicago. But by all means i dont think anyone who actually saw those seasons questioned how great Scottie was,yet i still fail to see how any of that addresses how Lebron quit in overtime of the finals and Stackhouse said he hated playing with Jordan because he believed he was better Oh and are we now taking the word of Jerry Stackhouse the same person who believed he was better than ALLEN IVERSON
Perk is right and lebron isn’t even my favorite player.. he’s right.
Thank you! Let's be real.
King Savage about some things yes but disagreeing with “perk” no. Lebron is the most scrutinized athlete on the planet even over Kobe my favorite athlete of all time. Lebron has had to endure way more because of “social media” any and everything he does is in the spotlight.
King Savage Skip is never right lol you’re delusional
Damn Shannon killed Skip. Take it easy Unc! Lol
Darrell Lewis sr other way around Shannon is just as delusional as skip
@@smellyfeet6684 not even delusional at all, he stated fact and seems you're the delusional ones..
When Shannon gives his points skip looks like he’s having a colonoscopy 😂😂😂😂
Memo to Skip Bayless: Michael Jordan had college experience before he was in his second NBA season. LeBron joined the NBA straight out of high school.
How many players came from high school to college during Jordan’s era?! I’ll wait! It wasn’t a thing can’t fault Jordan for that but ok!
Beatz Junkie392 so what? Fact still is LeBron came straight to the nba from high school.
You wouldn’t get it if you don’t get why it actually does matter that it wasn’t a rule then, I don’t know what to tell you. You speak as if Lebron was the first to do it, he was not. If the rule was in place where he had to go to college, guess where he would have been, in college, smh
Beatz Junkie392 Jordan wouldn’t of been the player he was without dean smith. If Jordan came to the nba straight out of high school, with out Dean, he wouldn’t of been who he became. This is an mj vs Lebron conversation so obviously I’m not going to include other players. And I’m pretty sure if LeBron had to go to college, he would’ve only stayed for 1 year.
You wouldn’t get it you do realize Dean Smith was known for holding back his players because he had a system he wanted to play. We shall never know what Jordan was going from high school to NBA but what I do know is, you can’t hold an opportunity that’s wasn’t afforded to him against him, nor can you give Lebron extra credit for it. You could do that with Melo, KD, and all the current players who went to college despite that rule being available but not Jordan.
That did trip me out when I watch the documentary jordan lost yet still got player of the game. That would never happen in today age. The media is so bias flips flop it’s argument so much there never wrong.
KingOfStrongStyle didn’t everyone in unison say LeBron should’ve have won Finals MVP in 2015? Or am I tripping?
Thats because the team he played against was unbeatable. it was 1 vs 8. today aged no one expect an 8 seed to beating Warriors with Durant. Jordan was his second season. So no one expect him to man up against that Celtic team. even Celtic team was surprised that there was someone that is giving them business.
LeBron get defended after losing to Mavrick.
L-e-gendary boooooooo
Kyle Sanders-Walker SHOULD'VE but he didn't.
That's because it was one on 5. He was the game.
Skip Brady or Skip Michael Jefferey Jordan 🥜🥜🥜🥜
9:45 Skip trippin' yo! Scottie Pippen was an MVP candidate when MJ wasn't on the team! In fact, to Shannon's point, Scottie led the Bulls past the first round without MJ. So it's unfair to downplay Scottie's importance to the team!
Don't forget that year bulls added Steve Kerr, Luc Longley and Toni Kukoc...plenty of help for Pippen.
I don’t care who u think the GOAT is skip lost this argument lmao 😂
Mark Ellzy no he didn’t Leshannon lost this argument
Definately not! Shannon is delusional comparing MJs 63 to LBJ... that’s the most idiotic thing ever!
I love Jordan but praising him for scoring 63 against the Celtics and lose the game 🤷🏽♂️it really isn’t fair that people are not even giving LeBron the respect he deserves for bringing his team back from 3-1 in the finals let’s respect both of their greatness 👌🏽
@@MiniShaQ How is it? LeBron goes for 51 8 8 and loses to an all-time great (if not the greatest) GSW team and Skip constantly berates him for it. MJ scores 63 and loses to an all-time great Celtics team and Skip praises him for it, constantly bringing up the Larry Bird quote. If you listened to the video, Shannon never once argues who's better between MJ and LeBron, he only says treat LBJ to the same standards that Skip treats MJ.
Jacques Dean he gets a ton of respect for that though? Nobody ever disrespect that performance. But you need to understand the context of MJ and the 63 points.
People will miss LeBron. Just wait for it. Imagine a league with just media haters players 💀
@Niko Gambino hater?
Niko Gambino stay mad Lebron hater
Nah we wont ... cause to much damar
Niko Gambino you’re probably a KD frustrated fan.
Unc went OFF this segment and somehow brought up Noah’s Ark 😂
TIMESTAMP?
@@macp2657 17:55
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Skip doesn’t understand he’s elevating Lebron’s greatness by belittling his career...
liibaan89 and so Leshannon must be elavating Brady career for belittling him
No he isn’t 😂😂
@CUBAthaGOAT yes I agree
Lebron Could Rescue A child from a burning building.... Skip: Do You Think Michael Jordan would’ve ever Rescued that child ????? Lol 😂
Other way around
nah he would be like "michael would never have let the building burn" 😂
Jordan’s killer mentality would have said “every man for themselves” pushed the kid and hit a game winner. LEBRON COULD NEVER
Bottle Flipping Masters That’s True Too LoL
I’m not a LeBron fan by any means, but I can’t hold that 07 loss to the Spurs against him. Also Skip is a clown. Friendly reminder
@@alezflores anybody with knowledge knows lbj would've lost it had one of the lowest ratings in finals history for a reason
@@alezflores no logical basketball fan would even think lbj would win the chip in 07. We only give him credit for getting there. The spurs were top 5 in offense and defense and they won the chip 2 yrs prior. The cavs weren't even a top 15 offensive team.
@electricmole 1st i don't give lbj a pass for that he choked no logical nba fan gives him a pass he doesn't even excuse himself for that. Why are you acting as if that mavs team wasn't good that was a vet team with great depth. That mavs team swept the defending champion lakers to the point ron artest damn near ripped jj barreas head off with a clothline mid air
@electricmole did i say that mavs team was a superteam ppl discredit that mavs team because lebron choked even if lbj didn't that mavs team was still a good team regardless with vets and depth. I hope your not trying to compare that mavs team to the 07 cavs
@electricmole where do i say the mavs are a superteam there is a difference between a vet team with depth and a superteam. You really are hating on lbj that much that your discrediting the spurs who have 20 yrs of consistency in the postseason. Don't bring up mj when was getting swept at the same age every year. The mavs had a deep team where a team lacks in star power depth of a team makes it up as a team. The mavs beat the lakers, okc, and trailblazers no game 7s and beat the heat no game 7s that's where the depth comes in if lbj performed up to par the mavs wouldn't win but don't use lbj choking as an excuse to discredit that team that won 57 games. And dont compare the spurs or mavs to that 07 cavs roster to discredit them to hate on lbj just so you can gas jordan
Skipped got thrashed here. "We'll talk about this later" is code for "I got nothing". Lol
I've got something..
Name me another loss besides "The Black Sox" situation which was cheating that ANYONE REMEMBERS... Let alone FOR VALIANT EFFORT BY A LOSING TEAM OR PLAYER... (time goes by)
Oh... That's right... YOU CAN'T!!! goodnight
@@MTXSHO9732vV8SHO what about the HOU Astros situation? They cheated for 2 World Series. There's 1 for u
19:23
It literally hurts skip to even admit Jordan missed shot
Jordan could slap skip wife and skip will still praise him like a god
Facts. I never witnessed this much jock riding.
@@jacksonnymcmonet7921 yea same goes to Leshannon
Mani can say the same for Shannon with Lebron. We just waiting for Shannon to change his last name and make it official.
mats Shannon is speaking on facts, Skip speaks on emotion. Foh
Lebron can do more with Shannon. 🤷♂️
Shannon cooked Skip. If it was a rap battle it would’ve been over 😂😂😂😂
ursulamajor2000 please explain how Shannon “cooked” Skip
No he didn't lol. I love how Shannon is reaching by highlighting 1 of the few mistakes MJ made in the playoffs lol.
@@kdubbss0583 He pretty much pointed out that mj can do no wrong but bron can only do wrong...bron is over scrutinized ... it's quite ridiculous honestly
Maverick33 guy that’s not true but whatever.. he “cooked” Skip
@@maverick33guy95 Nah, he's s scrutinized when he compared to MJ. Other than that he's one of the best to ever play.
In Bron's second year they went 42-40. He had a winning record and missed the playoffs. Mike's first two years they had losing records and made the playoffs.
@Malik Gordon research bro.
Correct, Jordan was a first round exit 3 times in a row and exited another 3 times after that
Scottie was the second best player in the league and the greatest small forward for that entire decade?
You're crazy... He never was the second best player in the NBA. Wasn't better then Hakeem ,Charles, David Robinson, Malone, ( to name a few) Pip was great and key piece on that Bulls Squad but Never was the second best player in the NBA.
Lebron eats a taco with his left hand
Media: Is Lebron eating a taco because he's afraid of getting swept by a burrito?
Kababy Loadmanagement 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
Kababy Loadmanagement Kahater
Kababy Loadmanagement young kawhi clamped lebron in 2014 finals
@@westbrookthegoat576 i won because i paid the refs
Kababy Loadmanagement kaclamp will shut u down
LOVE me some Chamberlain, MJ and LeBron but LeBron never gets his due. Critized for everything he does. Ask Skip what Jordan was doing the night before the "Flu game"? Best kept secret. What was the Bulls record in 97-98 when Pippen was out?
97-98 the 1st 35 games they was 24-11
douing the 2nd 3peat 31-12
Jordan without pippen
Oh wow. Just 500%. Without Scotie.
I think people are mad that Lebron didnt play in the era when it was okay to be rough and physical...like the types of beatings Jordan took back in the day, physically, that Lebron was kinda spared from all that....never had to play against the likes or Oakley, Anthony Mason, Bill Lambeer etc.
bill smith Nah I was watching the games recently. The defense is massively overrated. More players were definitely playing defense but the defensive schemes and players weren’t as good as we’ve been told. I’m glad this came out cause it gave me the interest to go back and watch old MJ games.
@@BFlynn-tl9pg Scottie went to the ECF's w/o MJ...So what r u saying?
He really called him Kendrick “LeBron” lmaoooo alright skip Michael
😁😁😁😁
hahahaha
Shannon got me crying on saying “Hol on”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Deonte Macklin 2+2=4
True, we should appreciate King James more, I thought MJ was perfect 🤔 Skip will always have negativity of Lebron
keep appreciating the goat, you can't take nothing away from MJ. Lebron is good for the era but MJ is the Goat period and don't matter what Goofy Shannon, Perkins, talking the media now is tampered by Lebron instead of just letting his game show he trying hard to take a spot that just not for him. He got his own lane (period)
And shanon always negative on mj lol
Why did you think he was perfect? I mean he’s the greatest but no one is perfect and Shannon keeps forgetting that yes he missed the shot but he was the only true scorer on his team and he was in his second o.t. It’s hard to walk with no legs under you.
Lebron hurt his legacy by going to Miami.
I WONDER HOW GOOD LJ COULD HAVE BEEN IF HE HAD PHIL JACKSON COACHING HIM.
Outlaw JBC imagine lebron with phil Jackson and Scotty pippen vs an aging Celtics and lakers and pistons then after those teams... imagine lebron with Phil and Scotty playing against teams like the Utah Jazz in the finals. Then imagine lebron personal life (mistress/gambling) wasn’t a mess so he didn’t have to take two years off (actually suspended by the league) - I can imagine 10 titles - basically Jordan under achieved lol
Outlaw JBC the man basically taught his self the game an look where he took it dam this isn’t a real story if we all weren’t witnesses 💭🙌🏽
Lebron is smarter than his coaches... We have to give him his flowers
@@DOnONe733 you know why i cant imagine it. Because lebron is uncoachable. Jordan was great because he could be coached. Lebron has had one style of play and it's been the same his whole career. It's a reason he gets praise too, so dont say imagine if he had a great coach. Jordan's respect for the game let himself be coached and it made him, scottie and phil legendary Lebron got all his coaches fired. None of his coaches had the chance to be great.
TheRecks33 I see ur point, not sure I agree. Lebrons game has evolved as his athleticism declined. Lebron is a savant, basketball genius. Michael was just a killer (killer will, killer game)
I hate the faces Skip makes when Shannon's talking. 💯
Spoiled milk 🤢
Da wun afta yeabutt.....hahahahahaa.....
At least he wasn’t making that sound he usually does
WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL IS A YEAH-BUT!!!! I'm using that lol, I swear Shannon be having all the sayings!
Shannon was spitting facts this segment 😭
Skip got raw dogged
Skip was pure trash in this argument
Shannon said at 9.30 Jordan got swept in every series without Pippen. The Bulls went 1-3 against the Bucks in the 85 playoffs Jordan's rookie year so his facts are wrong.
@Kenneth Erickson 22
Kenneth Erickson Name one person on that team that’s not Kevin Love who was significant to that finals
I guess skip got heartburn...Get em' Shannon!
I love Mike to death and Lebron but I'm sick of these comparisons! It's all hype and delusion. They are two entirely different players from two extremely different eras! As far as Scottie Pippen how soon we forget the greatness he added to MJ and the Bulls. He attacked the rim and defended just as viciously as MJ did! He defensively shut down a lot of the greats of back then. He was a top 5 player in the years of those championship runs. Put some respect on that man name!!!!
No he wasn't. Hakeem, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone and Shaq were all better and Grant Hill's numbers offensively across the board were better from the time he stepped into the league
@@elbowgang9715 stop tripping and hating on Scottie. Numbers and stats don't say it all. Notice I said top five meaning not just with offense. He was on a team with MJ of course his numbers won't jump out at you offensively but all around Scottie was better than half those dudes on your list. Half of them don't even have rings because of Scottie's defense. Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and David Robertson come on now! Shaq couldn't even deal with Dennis Rodman in those championship runs! MJ and Scottie ran the 90's even when Jordan retired Scottie got them to 55 wins and that's facts plus all star MVP!
Pippen was not a top 5 player in those years, pure BS. And believe me, you don't like Pip as much as I do.
@@tangaraspeedgoda7436 unbelievable another Pipen hater!!How dare you say you "like Scottie" and have the nerve to disrespect him at the same time! MJ literally said and I quote "there is no MJ without Scottie!. You guys obviously got issues. To each is own but don't tell me nothing about Scottie. MJ didn't win one NBA title without him! Facts! MJ also said if Scottie would have gotten traded after his 1st retirement he would've even came back. Go somewhere and play with somebody else! I'm from Chicago and the 90's was my hay day! I lived through that glory up close and personal!
@@chitownstaydown8856 I don't give a damn about who you are. I respect Scottie but I'm not gonna lie about him. He was never a top 5 player in the league in the 90's.
Jordan didn't win a title without him but Jordan could have won with many other players. You guys are alking as if Pip was the only player that could fit Jordan. If you were really around at that time first of all, you know Jordan mentored Pippen to become a great player and he was. But not top 5 player...at no point of time was he a top 5 player. That's a straight up lie. "Another Pippen hater..." GTFOH
The fact that a 30-52 team made the playoffs tells me all I need to know about the nba back then
Exactly lmao.
Facts but them Jordan riders don't wanna hear it
skip so bias is hard to listen to him
I love how skip never answers Shannon's questions. Because he knows Shannon knows what he's talking about. It's evident that Skip is hypocritical. Shouldn't be a caster
I AM KaYnAn yea but Shannon’s answers to skip are ridiculous
Corey Appiah no they aren’t???
Skip is the best at that
@@westbrookthegoat576 all the time. He either says yes or no or I agree or disagree. If Shannon asks skip a question about LeBron that helps his argument skip will bypass the question by making another statment or saying "we will talk about that later"
I AM KaYnAn lol idk y he does that but Shannon points are so weak...
19:00 to 22:00 mark is all facts. That’s what I always asked. Shannon spoke all facts.
Fire Angel Chris PREACH SHANNON
Princess Lightning Nothing but truth in those words.
Scottie Pippen is a triple-single machine in his rookie year.
Zenon Pyro Google,Facebook,Microsoft we’re in a garage in their first year. Everything gotta start somewhere
D Wade and Bosh each averaged less than 15 points in that finals loss to the Spurs.
The most gifted Scorer in NBA history joined the greatest shooter in NBA history, and the second greatest shooter in NBA history to face LeBron James. I’m supposed to diminish LeBron when facing those odds? No sir.
He faced that team twice whats his for the other 4 finals losses? No help... shocker
Shane Scully lmao 😂 truth hurts, watch the excuses start he had no team, still lost with El heat first season so what’s all the hype about??? The frozen one is a legend like many but never the second best player ever yet fifth at most for me. He ain’t better than bird 🦅 magic 🎩 Kareem or MJ so why are we even talking 🤷🏽♂️ Kobe maybe personally I think I’m taking Kobe. Worse free throw shooter in the all time top ten enough said. But Bron is the best of his era no contest.
@@alezflores mean while dappin up his son and throwing down tomahawk dunks... hes a quitter when the tough gets going lebron mails it in. The 3-1 ring watch game 4 he starts playing real dirty tries to foot trip curry gets draymond suspended and then curry and klay are in foul trouble games 5 and 6 or 6 and 7.
Bigger sample size look at last season he seen that roster isn't ring material.... "actually im injured after declaring playoff mode"
Also watch how lazy and inactive he is off the ball.
Julian Reese I can swear James harden took that team to 7 games while lebron and his 2 other all stars lost 4-1 and the clippers took that same team with no star to 6 games while lebron and love got swept 🤷🏾♂️
I don't remember MJ playing with Steph Curry!
Can we just pray they control this virus so we can back to N.B.A
Skip Bayless tactic: pretend the sporting world is pro-LeBron James, even though most people in the media are Jordan fanboys who universally accept him as the GOAT, and anybody who says otherwise to be blasphemous and heretical.
"The east is not as competitive today as it was in the 80s and 90s" meanwhile the bulls making the playoffs with 30 wins 🤣🤣
Because teams are more balanced with talent unlike back in the days
@@LifeOfRepentance bruh the 80 an 90s were filled with talent
@@freshprinceofcharlotte4362 yes but there no names today who are very skilled along with super stars.
People only hate him because they envy him dude is my idol due to what he's done off the court combined with on the court great father great man
Clutch Boy we talking basketball and he’s 3-6 an all time loser on the court but a great family guy.
@@gavinoctavien1400 idgaf about his finals records i bet he a UNANIMOUS HOF DOE... OH OK
Fcgg Fgbb of course his HOF but he ain’t no GOAT jordan, Kareem, magic Kobe all over him. So I guess he’s probably #5
Gavin Kobe over him???
I’m wrong but Kobe got heart like Jordan and if the game is on the line his gonna go for it while Lebron will most likely pass it to anyone
Skip is being such a hypocrite it’s laughable l. He literally praised MJ to getting it into overtime n didn’t care he got swept? Why doesn’t he have the same energy for Lebron
Bron was 19 in his second year not even a fair argument from skip
Not true. Mj could go straight to the NBA
Ppl rarely talk about how college help mold MJ into the player he became. He learn from Dean Smith (arguably the goat) before he went on to the NBA
genghis khan He didn’t need college he was already a pro player look at his first game, a hall of fame coach would’ve made him better that’s it
Bron was 19 going on 20 in his rookie season. You dudes will lie about anything concerning Bron to make a point
Stephen May he was 18 going 19 bruh
skip needs to stop sometimes his points dont even make since, LEGOAT
Thanks for bringing this up... People tend to forget the plunges MJ had.
Reginald Walton the ups where greater than the downs and mike never Made excuses. Your man bron needs every excuse after every loss. The problem with bron is he doesn’t belong in the same class as mj. That’s the bigger issue. Mike has accomplished more in a 13 year career then bron has accomplished in 17 years
Michael Sanders What did Phil win before Jordan? Stop acting like he won something before Jordan. While MJ was out for the 93/94 season, Bulls had 3 All Stars n they didn’t even make the ECF.
Michael Sanders Phil was a rookie when he got to Mike, you have to stick with coaches for them to become hof. Bron runs everytime things get rocky. Spokstra is a great coach
Skip jus gave 5min worth of excuses for MJ 😭😭😭😭 I was laughing the whole time
Shannon: "Name one series where Michael won without Scottie"
Skip: "Name one series where LeBron won without James Jones"
Jayvee Sacramento he went to the finals without him
Shannon cooked skip. Fry, stew, boil, baked him all in one 😂
Skip Bayless is such a salty boomer that it makes me laugh and cry at the same time. The old man is just biased and blind.
FRANCO Le3-6 buddy go cry in the car
This guy perfectly representes like 70% of ppl that deminish lebron..
@@ivanpuzjak821 Do you mean the 73% of a NBA players that agree that Michael Jordan is the goat?
He’s blind to think MJ is better?
@@LandStrider23 Why do you crackheads always have to assume that defending Lebrons greatness means thinking he's the goat? Mj is the goat. But not having lebron as 2nd and deminish his greatness is just being stupid and ignorant
So we’re going to act like MJ didn’t freeze up in Game 5 of the 1989 ECF? Bulls down by 1 at the start of the 4th Qtr and MJ disappears scoring only 1 freaking point the entire Qtr... Bulls lose the game.
George hills missed free throw is someone how LBJ fault lmao
Somehow a missed free throw by Hill and JR forgetting what time it was gives LBJ a pass for going passive in OT lol.
youngbuck0911 he gave up because he was tired 51-8-8 and won the game by himself and teammates choked it 😐 stop taking it away from the goat
Brian Dillon Can’t argue with men who never scored 51-8-8 in a playoff game and have two idiot teammates take it away. Also recently I heard Jr say if they won that game.. so what, they would’ve lost in 5 anyway.... that’s exactly why LeBron was mad because that’s dudes mentality for real.
eazyduzit5150 they are professional basketball players, it’s their job to make shots
youngbuck0911 if he hit the free throws they had 2 seconds with no timeouts , idk how kd could possibly have enough time to do all that😭😂
Damn i love when Shannon exposing Skip Bayless
Mj without scottie"swept each playoff series"
Pip without MJ"a few playoff series wins"😂😂
Gotta hurt when people know facts like that. Lbj 2010 went against 2 allstars ray allen rondo. And players like Rasheed Wallace off the bench who is a great player period. Against lbj delonge west mo William's varejao. Took them 7 with no help and the narrative was lebron ran naw I cant beat a team by myself years later kg we ran him out we knew he couldn't beat 5 of us.... like that's greatness basketball is 5 on 5 and when kg statement is u knew he couldn't beat u 5 means u know if he had just 1 other person he would have. Scottie pippen is mj clutch lebron Anthony Davis is closet player to scottie greatness
Lmao, comparing Scottie winning in the playoffs without MJ after they 3-peated, having the same coach, same team, same system vs MJ not winning without Pip before having any of that in place, nice argument 😂😂😂
@@kevinjoseph1172 Scottie pushed the Lakers to a game 7 in the 2000 Western Conference Finals with Portland. They both had careers after Chicago, Scottie just proved more by himself.
@@kevinjoseph1172 How could they have the same system and same team if MJ wasn't on it, nice argument 😂😂
Also, the argument wasn't saying Pippen was better than MJ it was saying how good Pippen actually was
@@CPM9999 so phil jackson wasnt the coach? The roster was completely different from the year prior when MJ was on it? Did they not run the triangle offense? So that tells me same coach, same team, same system, minus MJ.
Yes I know what the argument was, I know Pip was an amazing player, but to say MJ cant win a playoff series without Pip, but Pip can without MJ, really though? You mean the Pip that went to Houston, lost in the first round, then the next year goes to Portland, the team that the year prior was in the WCF? Lol ya nice try bud
"a yeabut"... almost googled that mess before I realized his point
Karrie Ford lmaooo
😄😂🤣Facts
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good grief can we stop with all of this ,Michael Jordan , LeBron James ,Kobe Bryant they're all different players with different skill sets they are not the same person playing the same position
Rocky's Life Is hate to break it to you but sports shows definitely won’t stop with all of this anytime soon💀
FOH Nobody even brings Kobe up 🤣
All played in different eras too