The History of America & Steroids
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Just finished watching and it came out amazing dude! Glad I was able to contribute in some way. Very cool to see it all come together!
Amazing to have you on my man! Watched so much of your content, definitely had to link up. 👊
@@MMAOnPoint Hi mr on point. Quick question, for the video assignment on ‘ten more houses sold by Al Iaquinta’, do we have to include pictures of the properties or just the house planning sketches of each one? Thanks sir.
Oh shoot delt God!
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The collab I didn’t know I needed but enjoyed thoroughly 💯🤙
It's amazing that people still don't believe that actors do steroids for movies.
It’s amazing thst people think the rock is natty
@@cococock2418or Hemsworth. Pre sure he wants to stop Thor just purely because he’s sick of sacrificing his health for money
Shit!! Tom Cruise is doing everything he can right now. He knows with stem cell and high our life span are about to increase. So why worry now?
When MSM actually did real news. And wasn't an active propogandasts unit.
Add tiger woods to.that list.
Pleasure to be involved again gents. Huge amount of work from the team. Looking forward to the next one 🤝🙌
I'm sad they didn't mention the biogenesis ledger leak essentially proving certain star athletes and other entertainment figures used a service that provides genetically tailored PEDs.
Me too‼️
Well done‼️
👏🏾🧠🎯💯👍🏾
You added nothing to this but thanks for trying to suck up some credit, you get zero respect thanks!
In 1983 I took the class "Performance Enhancing Drug In Sports ". This was during blood packing , testosterone, HGH , a few year prior to the 86 ban on blood packing ... replaced with EPO. It was among the best classes I took at penn state taught by worlds expert.
😂 in 2024
I get this, plus more experts, not paid teachers…
For free, on my phone, tablet, t.v….
I’m a 86 kid and my god…I love this time of INTELLIGENCE followed by “Flat earth 😅”
I’ve learned and taught myself hundreds of things just on UTube..
Thts the glory of INTERNET for those who ever “Can’t Know Enough”
Side by side, good or bad, every “position with reasonings” not hyperboles
@@jakobquick6875 quit drugs
@@jakobquick6875you are not an 86 kid 💀💀💀💀
Funny story. I was probably given steroids as a junior cyclist (we all got shots that we did not know what it was, we were told they were vitamins) but then I got in a big crash, had head trauma and a concussion and either from that or the high dosages of anti-seizure drugs I took for years afterwards, destroyed my pituitary gland and I stopped growing at the age of 15. Now, at 44 yo, I'm finally about to start taking growth hormone, prescribed by my endocrinologist, although I'm fully aware I'm not going to get taller... that ship has passed. :) I'm 5'5" and I should be at least 5'9".
I'm 6'3" without drugs, apparently you should avoid training your shoulders with weights until you reach 18/19 years old.
I actually grew 3 inches while playing Basketball.
@@sebastianliwinski222 "apparently you should avoid training your shoulders with weights until you reach 18/19 years old."
Where did you get that piece of nonsense at?
I have never taken any steroids and I stopped growing at 14. I was 5'8 (still am) and used to think that I can grow further but didn't. Some people just stop growing early.
You were most likely given a b-12 shot... that's a common thing, steroids don't give you such symptoms nor a concussion, it was the anti-seizure drugs
@@sebastianliwinski222there has been several studies on weight training and growth in adolescent kids and all of them show a positive correlation. What you are saying is old school poppy cock
No way, MMA On Point blessing us with a full 1 hour documentary ! What did i do to deserve that !
Thank U, respect 💚
The time and effort in making this video was amazing!
Damnnn I didn’t even notice it was one hour! I was really paying attention and enjoying it to notice! 😮
This is what investigative journalism used to look like! It is really hard to produce something like this with historical context and implications we see now, have input from current commentators and still keep it entertaining...seriously well done! I would love to see a Tommy Morrison documentary - I am convinced that despite having HIV at age 18 he was able to continue to box and train due to his anabolic steroid routine....only when he stopped did the HIV start taking its toll
@@bbing-99they do lol. There are players that do take them. It’s not talked about as much because everyone thinks you look like a body builder when you take them.
Now they get mad if you question the use of hormones drugs on kids 😂
Because up until the mid 80s, news was actually news. Then the networks said the news divisions had to make money. That's when it started becoming propaganda 😔
@@themidwestrequest-xu9rm Who are they?
@@antoniomiranda8691 rainbow Americans
Watched this as an "up next" on my TV, can not believe that was an hour long, barely felt longer than 20mins, a testament to how good it was. Really well written, great editing, superbly paced. Great work guys.
If you liked this you should watch the documentary “Bigger, Stronger, Faster”
Im not an MMA fan by any means, but I am a curious girl who will watch a good documentary on just about any subject. You definitely earned a new subscriber with this doc, and I hope you continue to make more great documentaries like this. It’s clear that you put a ton of work into this video. 👍🏽
I'm a very curious man and I love a good documentary as well. Here's to learning new things. I hope you have a beautiful day sweetheart
@@Last_Chance.this is the worst pick up line ever. Are you on drugs?
@@LarryLonson chill out snowflake. definitely not a pickup line. Just a regular comment.
Sounds like you need some testosterone.
I'm so glad you collaborated with Derrick because he does such great comprehensive work learning about endocrinology and the related effects of these systems in our bodies.
Carl Lewis also tested positive in the lead up to the Seoul Olympics. But since he was tested by USOC, his violation was overlooked. The only difference between Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson was that Ben Johnson was on steroids at the olympics and Carl stopped like 4 weeks before the games to avoid detection.
Lies again? Apex Predator Astro Pay
Excellent point.
Ben Johnson got shafted he deserves to honored for his accomplishments including the footnote about steroids.
Lewis was on steroids in that final.Only 1 of the 8 wasnt
@@yyxy.oncesaid2 of the 8. Calvin Smith and the Brazilian bloke. Robson Da Silva is his name I think??
The editor who kept the background "music" was on steroids.
I got 8 1/2 inches I Hurd they make ur junk smaller I can’t afford to lose any so ima stay off the juice even tho I kinda wanna try n see how big I can get but my beef means the world to me
@@BennyLin718your d gets bigger from increased blood flow. Your balls are what gets smaller…
@@BennyLin718 bot
I've a mma fan for 15+ years. But these recent documentaries have been the best mma (yes this one is way more broad then just mma) media that has come out. Keep these up please, doing an amazing job as a team
I used to be a competitive gymnast throughout the 1990s and instead of bulking up the ideal was to stay thin and as prepubescent as possible. I, and a few other girls used ephedra to keep our weight down while keeping our energy and endurance going through the long training hours which at that time was 6-8 hours. Mind you I was 12 when I began this training regimen.
Thank you for sharing your medical history as well.
gymnastics is also a field that often flies under the radar in terms of doping
you're on steroids
Can’t say I’m surprised! Thank you for sharing
I am surprised you was basically doping at 12
NGL, you sounded like Joe Rogan on the occasion, very informative content. Thanks!
I thought the same thing
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar , very well could be a Jersey accent or nearby lol
Lies again? App Store AVN SaiGon
I thought the same thing. Sounded like a younger Joe Rogan
same deffo wish joe rogan
Just wanna take a minute and say how genuinely happy it makes me to see 2 channels like yours working together. I totally understand that this is a business but if all channels worked together like you guys did on this documentary, instead of just trying to gain more followers and views and having the quality of your work be the emphasis. I can only lay imagine what great Docs would be made. Thanks again!! And keep graining hard.
I used to be highly sceptical when it comes to taking steroids, but this awesome video convinced me - I’ll give it a try!
Lol if you do just dont be dumb nothing is free in this world one way or the other you always have to pay one day
same here. all my heroes are on drugs. that means i will be too :D
I wanna do DehBall cuz i iz skinny white boy who want body hair and big muscles so gurls like me. How many steroids of DehBols do i need to take? Does needle hurt? Does it go in my butt? Strids are like a vitaman but in a needle right? What if I just want boost my manhood cuz cant grow beard or body hair and just want to be manman. Can i buy from the nice man behind Lowe’s who talks to himself? Can my Head Hair move to my face hair if i strid up on dehbens? I have lot extra head hair to spare mare
@@seriouscashi think we’re on the same page champ
Reach your genetic potential naturally first then blast away 😂
I’m a diehard fan of this channel and the content you produce never disappoints. This video and subject matter is no different. I enjoy and prefer the longer videos and I’m sure I’m not alone in that opinion, this checks a lot of boxes.
I started watching this video not realizing it was 1 hour long and before i new it i finished the video. Strong work .
This was so well done, I will be watching again. Thanks for this. I have never wanted to take drugs, but can certainly understand why people do in the name of competition. Being the best, or top tier is a drug in itself, a drug so powerful we will do what we have to to keep that high.
How do you get high of HGH? Or if your test levels are below the normal range? For the average person over 40 HGH and TRT can have a dramastic improvement on your health, sense of well being provided under supervision of a knowledge doctor and frequent blood tests. At least as for myself....
this documentary is amazing!! great work my friend, new subscriber from italy
This is exceptional. I hope you continue to cover such issues and the wide scope of the ramifications. I have always been curious. Well done!
The content on the channel is just getting better and better. Keep up the great work guys, you deserve all the success you get!
This is such a gem of a video! So incredibly well produced and edited, I know these usually doesn't do as well as a lot of other content. But as an avid viewer of you guys this is some of the best work you have done!
One of the highest quality documentaries I’ve seen. Vice meets Nat Geo meets Frontline. Well done.
Watching the Seoul Olympics and all those athletes like Jackie Joyner-Kersee and Florence Griffith Joiner with their out of the world physique you could tell Ben Johnson wasn't alone.
Every single top athlete at the Seoul Olympics was taking PEDs without exception and anyone who believes otherwise is really naive. However, I believe they should be allowed to and do away with all the hypocrisy.
This is going to reach a such more broad audience. And if this is a hint as for what's to come from this channel...I can't wait. Keep up the INCREDIBLE work
Always when I’m on lunch or break you guys drop a video for me to enjoy while I relax for 30 mins
I always knew that this channel is good! But holyshit you guys THIS IS NEXT LEVEL!
“There are no solutions, only trade-offs.”
-Thomas Sowell
“There are no synonyms, only words with similar definitions that can be used interchangeably”
Based. He could teach the LA favelas a thing or two but thr commies have them captured like candieland
East german translated scientific papers would be in our house in the 70s . A veterinarian were helpful and dsmo and blood packing was common
Solid Content. Love the long documentary format, y'all nailed it
I’ve got to say I absolutely love content like this from you guys showing that you guys are way more than just a lists channel, I’ve learned so much from videos like this on the channel and it gives me an incredible insight into something which otherwise I might not have known about. Keep it up and thanks for the great content.
The longer, more investigative videos are definitely top content on this channel. This was an amazing watch!
Thanks :)
@@maddawgzzzz huh?
@@MH-ls8mg you’re welcome man. Np. Don’t over think it.
Being desperate, wanting to impress others, be successful, make money, dominate the competition, or watch ever increasing sports records is a strong driver.
No stopping any time soon - acceleration is a far more likely outcome.
The biggest motivator is wanting to recover quickly and not wanting the feeling the pain
@@Pol-xu4on Good point! 👍
been on them since my late teens, lots of benefits and lots of side effects, 40 now and if I could go back and do it natural I would, if you want to dance you got to pay the band
99% of sides can be avoided through bloodwork and micronutrient supplementing accordingly.
These last few months all the documentary videos have been nothing short of amazing! I look forward to these videos more then the normal countdown videos. Guys keep this up this is top tier content!!!!! I love it!
you're on steroids
I swear MPMD is on other peoples channels more than he's on his own these days 😂 The guys the fount of all steroid knowledge 😅
Damn dyslexia, I was intrigued as to Eric Sermon's involvement in a steroid documentary. Oh.... You mean Derek, not Eric.
We’ll start seeing him on cat react videos by the end of the year. Mark my words
He is one of the best videos you guys have ever done. I love the old-school lists and everything that kind of got you started, but I love the long-term content. You did such a good job man. Cheers!
Also, I think they just allow it. Fuck it have an enhanced division and a non-enhanced division. I know it’ll never happen, but I’m all for physiological improvement even if it’s super physiological. I think these are amazing and they never been in 70s and 80s the types of performance enhancers we would have today I think the research that start up again and we should see the limits that we can push the human body and the more research the more development the safer the substances could become. It’s just a matter of actually doing it.
And on the weight, cutting conversation first off the person who said to do it the day of the fight that is a dumb suggestion. It would be constantly getting hurt from dry joints. People could die dehydrated like that for 15 minutes that’s a terrible suggestion. I think they should be cutting out should not be allowed. That’s the only way to fix that issue. It’s just it outright people are still gonna try to do it and you know I don’t watch your whole video on it and I don’t know how developed these hydration test but it’s easy to tell if someone cuts weight and then blows back up the day you know the day of the fight. It would also be as simple as doing your way in and then right before the flight weighing them again and making sure that they didn’t pack on a bunch of weight, but they didn’t do a weight cut. Again I think you should ban it. There’s no reason that a guy competing at 185 should be stepping in there at over 200lbs On fight day. The weight bully exist for a reason. I don’t think it’s very sporting and I hope they do away with it one day Joe Rogan agrees with me lol yeah that’s my two cents.
It's funny how TV degenerated to the point where its content looks like shitposting, while the complete opposite happened to RUclips.
YT documentaries have reached a massive peak in quality and effort put into them that even surpasses former TV ones.
The job in this was amazing, congratulations guys!
As a lover of mma, a lover of early 2000’s baseball, someone who’s from Jose Canceco’s hometown of Hialeah (Miami), and a guy who played against (and with) a lot of the guys named in the biogenesis scandal in Miami I fucking loved this!! Big shoutout to Derek too! Great job Jason!
That said… I’m waiting to see if Papa Joe’s living well after awhile and then doing an anti-Vitor’s dose of TRT when I’m done having kiddos in the next 10 years when I’m 40.
MMAOP partnering with Derek MPMD is a match made in friggin heaven
Jason, you are a legend in the making man.
Its been so hard to solve because it was allowed under the table for decades so much its too deep to stop
The idea of weighing in right before the fight isn't that people would fight dehydrated -it would soon become apparent that is not a viable option and people would go into the fight at the weight which is most suitable for them.
It's the fact that they have a 24hr period to "put on" (regain) weight, that drives them to such ridiculous dehydration measures.
They're not "making" weight, they're pretending that they weigh less than they do.
I had 20 guys in just my class that were on some form of steroid or HGH so honestly can’t blame Congress for caring so much.
The Ben Johnson news was HUGE. Imagine this news becoming a headline in the Indian media, in the 80s.
Great job MMA On Point👏👏
yet multiple American Olympic athletes tested positive for banned substances before the games and should never have been allowed to compete (yes, Carl Lewis was one) yet the US Olympic Committee allowed them to compete
I knew this would be fire when I was half way through. Critical thinking is key. I have zero experience in understanding steroids and I have no idea what to say. It is sad that this is prevalent in sport. Looking forward to more content from you guys!
What’s “sad” is that hormone optimization has been demonized, therefore largely ignored by society. In clinical studies, HO has been proven safe and effective to prevent, treat and cure a multitude of illnesses, diseases and conditions.
@@2K9s of course it's going to be demonized when naive people begin blasting without care the moment they get their hands on it
@@2K9s hormone optimization is still used for those reasons you listed, whats demonized its his recreative use just to boost your gym performance
Steroids should be mandatory in baseball
You’ve one yourself one more follower! Wonderful job on this doc!!
This is such a step up in production value: well done Jason and team ‼️
you're on steroids
Really enjoyed the hell out of this mini documentary that y’all put together I found it incredibly informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work you guys.
Please keep doing these long form docs, both MMA and sports more widely. I know they take more work & time and may not be getting the same views as the top 10s but they're great and hopefully start to get the #s they deserve.
Truly impressive work, been a very long time follower of this channel
Carl Lewis was later tested for the same race later on when testing became more profound. The lab guy kept his samples and supported that Carl too was on a designer drug of that era.
I’d say all 8 in Olympic final were on something.
They're STILL on something. Nobody runs that fast without help. Even Bolt. He just never got caught..
@@stevemann1299 exactly ! As a pro bodybuilder. Im juiced to the gills .
This channel just stepped it up, great video
*"Everybody's on steroids."*
_-Diaz Bros_
Including the Diaz brothers....
Damn that that little bit about guys in high school blowing up and then you ask them what they've been doing and they say, I'm taking creatine. I've had that exact experience and honestly until now I didn't even think of the fact that that kid was probably on steroids.
Dude I love the editing so much holy cow. great video
As someone who has actually taken PEDs, ( superdrol, methasterone, and anavar ) I can say that they actually helped me with lifting and size but; actually more with recovery. I only took them cause I hit a plateau (stuck at 180) and now I’m sitting at a cool 210 and never looked better. I’m not saying to take them but they helped me out. With only 2 cycles 🤷🏾
That's what MPMD's stance on peds too.
Yes, love the journalism! Keep it up. We'll keep watching
I think the MMA world is very similar in their unwritten policy concerning PEDS as the WWE and that’s “We love the results you’re getting in the ring and you’re putting a lot of asses in the arena and on PPV but if you get caught we don’t know you.” Im just guessing but it’s not difficult to see the telltale signs of abuse if you’ve ever been there yourself.
Yea you're wrong
Brilliant work 👏
Loved the ending sentiments particularly. I would urge you to start with it in future videos because we all know the people who think they can solve these problems simply don’t make it to the end of a video 😮
You need more videos like this! (Documentary kinda sort of deal) Great work brother!
When I was in high school, a decade ago, there were plenty of kids on steroids. I lifted weights, and never did cuz I was afraid of that stuff, but the kids around me were more scared of not fitting in than the consequences
True
Love the diversity in the videos, always know it’s gonna be quality when I click
Can only imagine that work that went into this. Thanks 🤟🏾✌🏾
Soviets sports development was amazing
As someone who used test in the past, I will always have the same opinion. In competitive sports, people want to see humans at their peak in their specific sports and as long there will be fame and lots of money attached, they will NEVER go away. Thinking that is pure foolishness. So let these people do what they need to do. They know the risks in this modern age and should before doing it. But at the same time, people who never used it have a skewed understanding of it. People can be on steroids and still be fat. You still need a lot of hard work to let the enhancements shine through and push you to that next level. You can inject 1000mg of test a week but if you eat McDonalds 5 times a week it will not even show it. So it is a shame that people are stripped of their titles they worked hard to earn. At the end of the day, it is a competition between people or teams. And people will always look for an edge. So let them become monsters in their own right if they choose to.
I had a Great Uncle by the name of Alvin Roy, he served in the US Army in World War II in the European theatre. He saw what the Germans were using and noticed that it helped with the breaking down of muscles and rejuvenating them more quickly. He brought it back to the states and started administering them to the weightlifting team in the Melbourne Olympics which he was a coach on. Afterwards, he worked with the LSU football team helping them win the 1958 National Championship and then started working for the Los Angeles Chargers of the AFL introducing steroids to the players then.
I like these documentary style videos a lot. Keep on with the good work
What a well put together video. Research must have been tedious and edit footage hard to get at times. Well done!
This stuff was everywhere in the '90s. First took winstrol at age 15 in high school. The worst part is no one was even aware of the cognitive impacts of being on which was the worst part at that age
These deep dives are always such a treat, thank you guys for the effort and research that goes into these
Every big country in the Olympics are juicing like crazy USA, China , Russia, etc
And you think the Jamaicans with less than 3 million people are clean? LOL
Excellent video! My issue with steroids is not of its actual use, I think really anyone has the right to use the drugs they want for themselves.
The issue is that because of the enhancements it basically forces people who wouldn't use them to have to, to stay competitive.
And in a career where your value is based on your physical performance being better than others kind forces steroid adoption.
I would think the only solution is to have seperate leagues in sports for those that do or do not use steroids. Like in body building where you have "natty" competitions.
You'll still have cheaters but at least there will be an option to do it overtly. But the contradictory relationship America has with drugs won't let that happen.
We want athletes, actors, performers, etc to do things that are above what people naturally are capable of without chemical assistance but somehow also want them to be clean for some nebulas morality.
I feel like that would never happen because you'll have the roided out athletes dying at rapid rates from the drugs it would give a bad look
1972 Soviet Olympic sprints winner was a beast
Soviets famously not steroids users lol
@@spaceghosttoastas if american sprinters are clean. Unfortunately nobody is at this level and neither at lower levels
@@Goldenboy04-t8x that's my point goob
This was a banger. Im fascinated with Steroids & love MPMD
This is Fire please make more Videos like this or in this format
Wow guys. You just reached another level - well done 👍
This is happening in Europe and the USA - I think it's worse in the Middle East - I'm from kuwait, and there is no low against using it or selling it
This was super well done! More of this please!
Another S-Tier video from mma on point!!! Love these long form videos!!
bro you wrote this when the video had been up for 1 minute 😂😂 so you hadn't even watched it to know whether it was a good video or not lol, sad to seek attention like that bro 😂
@Ddot Mankey dude i saw this two days ago lol
@@DaveSandine yeah, ok then.. Maybe put the crack pipe down and take a nap, or maybe just get a girlfriend and beg her for attention instead 🤣
Awesome video! You should do more of these types of videos.
What a great and fairly balanced video. Perfect companion to Bigger, Stronger, Faster. The level of research was top notch and you did a great job of explaining why the government got involved with particular PED issues. I always find it amusing when I'm watching a sports show where PED's are being discussed and it's being sponsored by a product like Androgel and the viewer has no idea what Androgel actually is. Fantastic compilation and the editing was top notch as well!
Betrayed my trust? You never had my trust to begin with...
WOW! What a masterpiece. Bravo lads 🎉
You haven’t even watched it all you freak it’s been posted about 10 mins
USADA is shaking right now
how old is jason? he rocks that gray hair really well!
It would take a social shift about how we view sport as a society and who runs them
Absolutely great video! Love these long form docs from you guys
The more you think about it, the more hopeLESS the human condition becomes. Absolutely ridiculous, pointless creatures.
Your post fills me with hope for the future. I thought I was too cynical.
They’re talking about the benefits of hgh being to increase ligament and bone integrity and I’m reminded of that Joe Rogan story about Romero
Steroids in baseball was awesome
Long ball saved it from extinction mid 90s and steroids drove the home run race. Ergo cognito sum steroids saved baseball.
Human nature, greed in regards of just needing to win. And testing Is really just a deterant at this point
Building a strong and healthy physique is a project that takes a lifetime. I've been training like a madman for 38 years and it paid of. 53 now and stronger than most guys at the gym
The mushroom thing is real. At a low-medium dose, it obliterates all mental blocks. Puts you right into a flow state.
This was an amazing episode. Please keep them coming!!
Great video Great workouts Great channel Great content Great athletes Great motivation and inspiration keep doing what your doing and I Will always support you and your channel
The one dude from Balco said, his concoctions gave players (baseball) a stealthy lion hunting approach to hitting a baseball. Concentration and focus. Not just power to hit a ball.