Brother Tiff I was saved over 50 years ago but depend on your teachings to help me through this time and help me solidify my knowledge so I can hopefully bring others to faith by my example and words. I will probably never meet you during this life but will be honored to shake your hand in heaven
Bro.Tiff thank you for sharing the words of GOD so that the lost can be saved and the saved can be given the study of the Bible and we that are saved can get a lot of good from the Bible and your teaching I enjoy your preaching and teaching of the word I will probably not meet you on earth but gladly be there in heaven to shake your hands may GOD keep on blessing you and your family
Thank you for ‘the four ages in the book of revelation’ I now understand it, I have read revelation severally not getting it but today after listening… my understanding is on a different level
It's also important to note the timing of the great multitude in Revelation 7:9. This is occurring just after the signs in the sun, moon, and stars in Revelation 6:12-14. This would then correspond with the gathering of the elect in Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27, and the redemption in Luke 21:25-28. Very difficult to lift your head and look up for your redemption if you are dead. I see two visions in the book of Revelation. After the opening and the letters to the churches in chapters 1-3, there's the first vision which goes from chapter 4-10, but you see at the end of chapter 10, that John is told that he must prophecy again. Chapters 11-22 are then part of the 2nd vision. Note the signs in sun, moon, and stars occur at the 6th seal in Revelation 6. This corresponds with Matthew 24:29, but the Son of Man in the clouds in Matthew 24:30 is occurring in Revelation 14:14 and He reaps a harvest. Sounds like a gathering of the elect? So, I think we see two different visions, but which both cover the same events. Where did the Son of Man in the clouds occur back with the signs in sun, moon, and stars in Revelation 6? Revelation 6:16 He's a cloud of darkness to the one group, but a bright shining light in the night to the other. Exodus 14:19-21 He goes before them and is also their rear guard. Isaiah 52:10-15 Kings will be astonished. What they had not been told, they will see. What they had not heard, they will consider. Revelation 6:15-17 "Amazed when they saw Him." Isaiah 52:14 Luke 21:36 "Pray that you may be counted worthy to escape these things which will come to pass and to stand before the Son of Man." Revelation 7:9 "I looked and behold, a great multitude too many to count, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues standing before the throne and before the Lamb." He leads them out like a shepherd Revelation 7:17 and gives them shelter with His presence. Revelation 7:15. John 10:1-9. John 14:1-3 Has a name like "Joshua" or "Yeshua." Numbers 27:15-18 Leads them to the mountain of the Lord's inheritance. Exodus 15:16-17 Hebrews 12:22-24 Who is able to stand? Revelation 6:17 Psalm 20:6-8 Psalm 24:3-6
Revelation 7:9-14 is a vision of our Father's throne room; in new Jerusalem on the new earth. (Rev. 21:1-2) Christ has come with the 144,000 and the great multitude to present themselves before our Father. (1 Cor 15:24-28; Then cometh the end, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father, when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For He hath put all things under His feet. But when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under Him. And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.)
I don't think so... and because of Revelation 7:17. He leads them like a shepherd. This is John 10:1-6. Also John 14. If I go to the Father,I will also return and get you. In My Father's house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am, you may be also. This is Matthew 25 and the bridegroom returning for His bride. Isaiah 52:10-12 and verses 13-15 is the 6th seal. The kings and princes of the earth astonished. Revelation 6:15-17. Isaiah 52:10-12 is God's people being led out via rapture. He will be their front guard and rear guard, the same as Exodus 14:19-21. Being led to the mountain of the Lord's inheritance. Exodus 15:16-17 Israel who fled Egypt did not make it to the mountain of the Lord's inheritance. They wandered in the desert and came to the mountain of darkness and fire that may not be touched. Only Moses could go into the mountain. Who therefore gets to enter the mountain? Hebrews 12:18-24 Psalm 24:3-6 Who is able to stand? Revelation 6:17 The answer is immediately answered Revelation 7:9 Innumerable multitude led by a shepherd. The wise words of Solomon which pleased the Lord. 1st Kings 3:7-10. Solomon was too young and admits that he didn't know how to do this. But who does? John 10:1-6
Gm evening tiff thank u so much for these teaching my wisdom n understanding was increase while i.was listening thank u so much continue to do the works of the lord god bless u continue to pray for me am sister reid from Jamaica
Revelation 4 reminds me of .....Isa 26:20 Go, my people, enter into thy closets, shut thy door, hide thyself for a little season, until the anger of the Lord have passed away. Isa 26:21 For, behold, the Lord is bringing wrath from his holy place upon the dwellers on the earth: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall not cover her slain.
Please get on the Christian Channel 20 or Day Star TV. I prayer that God open that door for you to get on TV. And preach the "Truth of this Gospel of Jesus Christ-Yeshua. Keep preaching the Truth of God Word
When you going to get the Christian Channel with this "Sound Teaching" Because we have alot of "False Teachings on TV. Keep preaching In Season and Out Season. Preaching it when they dont want to hêar. All Praise to God,
I paid my sinner prayer.i am trying to to keep my word to Jesus crist pray for me I will read my Bible thank you for being on my phone I turned it on you thank you.
Rev 11:3 - 2 witnesses prophesy 1260 days. Rev 11:7 When they finish their testimony the beast kills them. Rev 11:12 They ascend to heaven. Rev 11:14 The 2nd woe {6th trumpet} is past. Behold the 3rd woe {7th trumpet} is coming quickly. Meaning, the 2 witnesses are prophesying during the 1st three & 1/2 years. God Bless You!❤
All you need is the Holy Spirit to be saved. I want to know how they have access to the scriptures. I always thought the Beast System would confiscate all bibles! The Lord Jesus is so beautiful. !
Thank you for this teaching and all your teachings. Does anyone know how to download all of these teachings onto PC for those left behind? As we suspect in the times of the Great Tribulation there will be no access to Christian RUclips channels and same with other platforms and Bibles.
Tiff, I don't miss a single video of yours. My biggest gratitude to you for every effort you make to teach us in God's truth. Question... You have always said that after the rapture no one who has rejected Christ prior, will be able to be saved. I couldn't believe that this will be true of every single one of those people. Surely there will be at least a few exceptions. We have family and friends who do not have hardened hearts, but are not saved yet and the Lord is still working on them, as we continue to pray for them. In this video you say that some who are left behind will surrender to God and reject the Mark. I am overjoyed but a little confused. Have you changed your viewpoint? My God continue to bless and keep you!
Good question Val! On some channels when I support and agree with a pre-trib rapture, I am treated ruthlessly by (so Called Christians)! It could be that they are listening to false preachers and bible teachers and wont study the bible for themselves....
In a previous teaching you stated that in the tribulation the people who will accept the gospel are those who will for the first time hear the gospel; but here you are saying it's those who were disobedient and rejected the gospel during the church age. Which is it? Am now confused
I have been listening to the teachings of Tiff Shuttlesworth since 2020 and I believe it's a reason why I came across his teachings. I love and trust the end time prophecy teachings but I have commented and asked questions on certain issues of his teachings that he has never addressed
Revelation 7:9-17 , Are the people (A lot of people) are the people that be raptured by Lord Jesus Christ? Because they are stand in front of Our Lord without die.
Is the Final Trumpet mentioned in Revelation 11:15 during the tribulation period, the same trumpets mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16? I’m a firm believer that the church will not go through the Great Tribulation, however the only “Final Trumpet” mentioned in the Bible is the one in Revelation 11:15; or I’m I mistaken? Thank you, Félix García
My NIV does not say these are the ones who died in the tribulation but it say these are the ones who come out of the tribulation. I don’t think everyone will die during the tribulation. I am not sure which NIV he is using but “come out” and “died does not mean the same thing. This is what confuses me.
I had the same question...Who are the great multitude that are in front of the throne. These are those that were beheaded in the tribulation i believe.
In Revelation 7: 13 &14 says: then one of the elders answered saying to me, who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from? 14 and I said to him, "sir you know." So he said to me. "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and "washed there robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb (It does not say they died but came out of the tribulation ) you added to Revelation not a good thing where does it say they died?
Pastor Tiff I love & respect your teaching. However can I point out that the people that I try to lead to Jesus don’t think they are sinners - they tell me they are as good as the next person & they haven’t done anything really bad like murder. They don’t see themselves as sinners at all, rather than , as you suggest their sin might be great. This would be people from Britain and Australia. I don’t know about Americans. Just an observation. Mollie
I have a great friend I thought, but her daughter is a gay and I tried talking to her about it and she says God is love and thinks it's ok. I just care for their souls. She won't speak to me now
I'm holding my post tribulation view. You can try and twist it as much as you want but it's not going to change my view. You should teach people all the views completely .
Brother Tiff, I must disagree with you on this great multitude. for several reasons. First, you shocked me when you read from the NLT. I believe that is the ONLY English translation that tells us this huge crowd died. Most English translations tell us they came, come or have come. Now I see that I cannot trust the NLT. Next, for a good exegesis of a verse, we must consider the context. Too often in Revelation people need to back up a few paces from an individual verse so they can see the entire forest, rather than examining one tree. Where is John in His narrative here? Most people get this answer wrong too. This is before any part of the tribulation or 70th week. The 70th week does not begin in Revelation until the 7th seal, and with the first trumpet judgment. Where does John cover the days of great tribulation (GT) that Jesus spoke about? Jesus said those days would not come until after the abomination that divides the week. John gave us 5 anchor points that positively anchor chapters 11, 12, and 13 as midpoint chapters. In fact, the Antichrist Beast was not seen rising to power until chapter 13. What will CAUSE those days of GT Jesus spoke of? It will be the enforcing of the mark of the Beast, and the enforcing of worship to the image. These things will not be enforced until AFTER God sends angels to warn the people not to take the mark, and we find that warning in chapter 14. In short, the days of GT Jesus spoke of will not begin in Revelation until late in chapter 14. This is confirmed in chapter 15 when John begins to see the first martyrs of the Beast begin to show up in heaven. Therefore, it is simply impossible that these people are killed in the days of GT that Jesus spoke of. So who then are they? If we believe Paul in 1 Thes. 4 & 5, that the rapture will come JUST before the start of the Day of the Lord and the start of God's wrath, and if we believe John that the Day of the Lord (also called the day of His wrath) will begin at the 6th seal, and if we believe what John wrote about those marytrs of the church age at the 6th seal-that judgment will not begin until the final martyr is killed as they were all killed-as church age martrys, then the only place in Revelation that fits Paul's rapture is just before the 6th seal start of God's wrath. Most people "jump the gun" so to speak in Revelation and imagine John is in the 70th week, when in fact, he is still in the church age. The church age will end at the rapture, and the rapture will probably be the trigger for the Day of the Lord. In other words, this group probably just arrived in heaven in the timing of Revelation 7; just after the start of the Day of the Lord and the start of God's wrath. Many people imagine that God's wrath begins with the first seal. They have pulled that first seal out of its early church context: Jesus got the book and began opening the seals as soon as He ascended, probably right after telling Mary that He had not yet ascended. Without a doubt, then, this great crowd is the just-raptured church. No other crowd would be so large. The church is be perhaps 50 generations of believers all in the same place at the same time. There will be no other crowd mentioned in Revelation so large. Not only the church, but all the children, another billion of so people. What did John mean then, that these came out of the great tribulation? Jesus said that in this world we will have tribulation. What if we combined all the combined tribulation of billions of people? Could we call that "mega" or great tribulation? Many people imagine this is the answer to how this great crowd suddenly got from earth to heaven. That is not the answer given. Another question was, Who they were. That is the question that was answered. HOW did each one of this huge crowd become a member of this group? They washed their robes in the blood of Jesus. In other words, they got born again. They are here in heaven because they are "In Christ" at the time of the rapture. Keep up the good work!
A while back I asked God in prayer when, as in sequential order, not date wise, when the rapture will be. Then he suddenly gave me the answer, "look up tribulation". I thought, weeellll, then I typed into the search bar on bible gateway the term tribulation, (I've never done that before) and would you believe it, the last time tribulation is mentioned is in revelation 7:14? Now, I believe because of what I'm seeing now, we are in the tribulation, thlipsis in Greek which means "hemming in" as in labour for instance. When in human history has the whole world been so hemmed in from every side AT THE SAME TIME? Never! What pre tribulationists think of the tribulation is really for the Jews. What Jesus referred to was for the whole world designed to squeeze out the true believers, and isn't that what's been happening over the past 3 plus years. Btw. the 7 years will start some time after our departure (in the rapture). This is just how I see it. God bless.
ETERNAL GLORY TO THE ONLY HEAVENLY FATHER YAHUAH AND HIS SON YAHUSHA! THE RIGHT NAME OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS YAHUAH, AND THE NAME OF HIS SON OF OUR SAVIOR IS YAHUSHA! LORD, GOD ETC ... THESE ARE ONLY PAGAN TITLES REPLACED BY REAL HEBREW NAMES. ALL PRAISE TO THE MOST HIGH YAHUAH! HalleluYAH!
Where is the division of church age saints from other saints in scripture. Rev 3 I will keep you from it the hour of testing. It may not mean keeping them from being beaten shoot or killed Did Jesus keep his Apostles from being tested . No he did not Simon Peter Satan has demanded to have you to test you But I have prayed for you . Did he keep them from persecution no he didn't Those who live a Godly life will be persecuted. There is no church age saints .
Bro. Tiff I have been serving the Lord here in the Philippines for about the same length as you do. I have been deriving inspiration from your life and sermons. I tend to believe that the great multitude in Rev. are Jews if not mostly. God's time for the Gentiles are over as per dispensation and now He turns to His Chosen People and graft them in again. At this time " salvation will be for the Jews" all Israel will be saved".(Rom. 11 esp. v. 26). I also leanred from you that after 1/3 of mankind were killed "the rest did not repent (Rev. 9:20)..and "He (Satan) causes ALL both small and great..to receive a mark on their foreheads and their right hand.." (Rev. 13:16). Those receiving the "seal of God on their foreheads" are the only exception.. like the seal w/c is the Holy Spirit exclusively given to the raptured Church..who are Gentiles but the latter now is for the Jews. Would the "all nations, tribes, peoples.." pertain only to the regathered Jews because "all Israel will be saved? as there are American Jews, Ethiopian, Indian, Iranian, etc. whose time has come to be saved? Would the time for the Gentiles is now up in the Rapture and the time for the Jews now starts during the Great Tribulation?
Brother Tiff I was saved over 50 years ago but depend on your teachings to help me through this time and help me solidify my knowledge so I can hopefully bring others to faith by my example and words. I will probably never meet you during this life but will be honored to shake your hand in heaven
Bro.Tiff thank you for sharing the words of GOD so that the lost can be saved and the saved can be given the study of the Bible and we that are saved can get a lot of good from the Bible and your teaching I enjoy your preaching and teaching of the word I will probably not meet you on earth but gladly be there in heaven to shake your hands may GOD keep on blessing you and your family
AMEN.
Thank you for ‘the four ages in the book of revelation’ I now understand it, I have read revelation severally not getting it but today after listening… my understanding is on a different level
Praised be to God in Jesus name amen
Thank you, Tiff Shuttleworth, for your teaching from the book of Revelation. May we be prepared for the second coming of the Lord.
You are a great blessing!
Thank you Ev. Tiff your teachings are a blessing to me.
Man of God your ministry have cause me to dig deeper into Bible Prophecy. Thank God for your teaching. Be bless
thank you so much Ev Tiff. This more than ever should make us be a part of the five wise virgins. We cannot miss the rapture of the church.
TGBG ALWAYS
All your teaching are iof great blessing to us.
Sridhar Devadoss
India
You are a man of God who loves the Truth of God Word.
PRAISE THE LORD HALLELUYAH AMEN !!!
It's also important to note the timing of the great multitude in Revelation 7:9. This is occurring just after the signs in the sun, moon, and stars in Revelation 6:12-14.
This would then correspond with the gathering of the elect in Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27, and the redemption in Luke 21:25-28.
Very difficult to lift your head and look up for your redemption if you are dead.
I see two visions in the book of Revelation. After the opening and the letters to the churches in chapters 1-3, there's the first vision which goes from chapter 4-10, but you see at the end of chapter 10, that John is told that he must prophecy again. Chapters 11-22 are then part of the 2nd vision.
Note the signs in sun, moon, and stars occur at the 6th seal in Revelation 6. This corresponds with Matthew 24:29, but the Son of Man in the clouds in Matthew 24:30 is occurring in Revelation 14:14 and He reaps a harvest. Sounds like a gathering of the elect?
So, I think we see two different visions, but which both cover the same events.
Where did the Son of Man in the clouds occur back with the signs in sun, moon, and stars in Revelation 6?
Revelation 6:16
He's a cloud of darkness to the one group, but a bright shining light in the night to the other. Exodus 14:19-21
He goes before them and is also their rear guard. Isaiah 52:10-15
Kings will be astonished. What they had not been told, they will see. What they had not heard, they will consider. Revelation 6:15-17
"Amazed when they saw Him."
Isaiah 52:14
Luke 21:36
"Pray that you may be counted worthy to escape these things which will come to pass and to stand before the Son of Man."
Revelation 7:9
"I looked and behold, a great multitude too many to count, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues standing before the throne and before the Lamb."
He leads them out like a shepherd
Revelation 7:17 and gives them shelter with His presence. Revelation 7:15. John 10:1-9. John 14:1-3
Has a name like "Joshua" or "Yeshua." Numbers 27:15-18
Leads them to the mountain of the Lord's inheritance. Exodus 15:16-17
Hebrews 12:22-24
Who is able to stand? Revelation 6:17
Psalm 20:6-8
Psalm 24:3-6
Revelation 7:9-14 is a vision of our Father's throne room; in new Jerusalem on the new earth. (Rev. 21:1-2)
Christ has come with the 144,000 and the great multitude to present themselves before our Father. (1 Cor 15:24-28; Then cometh the end, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father, when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For He hath put all things under His feet. But when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under Him. And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.)
I don't think so... and because of Revelation 7:17. He leads them like a shepherd. This is John 10:1-6. Also John 14. If I go to the Father,I will also return and get you. In My Father's house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am, you may be also.
This is Matthew 25 and the bridegroom returning for His bride. Isaiah 52:10-12 and verses 13-15 is the 6th seal. The kings and princes of the earth astonished. Revelation 6:15-17.
Isaiah 52:10-12 is God's people being led out via rapture. He will be their front guard and rear guard, the same as Exodus 14:19-21.
Being led to the mountain of the Lord's inheritance. Exodus 15:16-17
Israel who fled Egypt did not make it to the mountain of the Lord's inheritance. They wandered in the desert and came to the mountain of darkness and fire that may not be touched. Only Moses could go into the mountain.
Who therefore gets to enter the mountain?
Hebrews 12:18-24
Psalm 24:3-6
Who is able to stand? Revelation 6:17
The answer is immediately answered
Revelation 7:9
Innumerable multitude led by a shepherd.
The wise words of Solomon which pleased the Lord. 1st Kings 3:7-10.
Solomon was too young and admits that he didn't know how to do this. But who does?
John 10:1-6
Amen
Thankful for the message !!!
Gm evening tiff thank u so much for these teaching my wisdom n understanding was increase while i.was listening thank u so much continue to do the works of the lord god bless u continue to pray for me am sister reid from Jamaica
Awesome teacher. God bless you 🙏
Amen very powerful teachings frm you Ptr. JIFT GOD BLSS YOU MORE
Good day to you Evang. Tiff. I thank you. Detroit, MI
Revelation 4 reminds me of .....Isa 26:20 Go, my people, enter into thy closets, shut thy door, hide thyself for a little season, until the anger of the Lord have passed away.
Isa 26:21 For, behold, the Lord is bringing wrath from his holy place upon the dwellers on the earth: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall not cover her slain.
Please get on the Christian Channel 20 or Day Star TV. I prayer that God open that door for you to get on TV. And preach the "Truth of this Gospel of Jesus Christ-Yeshua. Keep preaching the Truth of God Word
When you going to get the Christian Channel with this "Sound Teaching" Because we have alot of "False Teachings on TV. Keep preaching In Season and Out Season. Preaching it when they dont want to hêar.
All Praise to God,
I paid my sinner prayer.i am trying to to keep my word to Jesus crist pray for me I will read my Bible thank you for being on my phone I turned it on you thank you.
Rev 11:3 - 2 witnesses prophesy 1260 days.
Rev 11:7 When they finish their testimony the beast kills them.
Rev 11:12 They ascend to heaven.
Rev 11:14 The 2nd woe {6th trumpet} is past. Behold the 3rd woe {7th trumpet} is coming quickly.
Meaning, the 2 witnesses are prophesying during the 1st three & 1/2 years.
God Bless You!❤
Please give us a lesson on the children and what happens to those who aren’t saved in the rapture and tribulation.
Great Teaching . Romans 11 the Jews will be 'Save" during the "Tribulation.
VERY CLEAR! THANK YOU!
SO GOOD.
All you need is the Holy Spirit to be saved. I want to know how they have access to the scriptures. I always thought the Beast System would confiscate all bibles! The Lord Jesus is so beautiful. !
Thank you for this teaching and all your teachings. Does anyone know how to download all of these teachings onto PC for those left behind? As we suspect in the times of the Great Tribulation there will be no access to Christian RUclips channels and same with other platforms and Bibles.
Tiff, I don't miss a single video of yours. My biggest gratitude to you for every effort you make to teach us in God's truth. Question... You have always said that after the rapture no one who has rejected Christ prior, will be able to be saved. I couldn't believe that this will be true of every single one of those people. Surely there will be at least a few exceptions. We have family and friends who do not have hardened hearts, but are not saved yet and the Lord is still working on them, as we continue to pray for them. In this video you say that some who are left behind will surrender to God and reject the Mark. I am overjoyed but a little confused. Have you changed your viewpoint? My God continue to bless and keep you!
Why is it that some people don’t believe in the rapture of the church?
Good question Val! On some channels when I support and agree with a pre-trib rapture, I am treated ruthlessly by (so Called Christians)!
It could be that they are listening to false preachers and bible teachers and wont study the bible for themselves....
In a previous teaching you stated that in the tribulation the people who will accept the gospel are those who will for the first time hear the gospel; but here you are saying it's those who were disobedient and rejected the gospel during the church age. Which is it? Am now confused
Both
I have been listening to the teachings of Tiff Shuttlesworth since 2020 and I believe it's a reason why I came across his teachings. I love and trust the end time prophecy teachings but I have commented and asked questions on certain issues of his teachings that he has never addressed
Amen tiff when are you coming to South Africa?
Yes we need your teaching here!
Revelation 7:9-17 , Are the people (A lot of people) are the people that be raptured by Lord Jesus Christ?
Because they are stand in front of Our Lord without die.
Is the Final Trumpet mentioned in Revelation 11:15 during the tribulation period, the same trumpets mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16?
I’m a firm believer that the church will not go through the Great Tribulation, however the only “Final Trumpet” mentioned in the Bible is the one in Revelation 11:15; or I’m I mistaken?
Thank you,
Félix García
Can you please tell me who was the eagle that came down the story of Noah before fording
My NIV does not say these are the ones who died in the tribulation but it say these are the ones who come out of the tribulation. I don’t think everyone will die during the tribulation. I am not sure which NIV he is using but “come out” and “died does not mean the same thing. This is what confuses me.
I had the same question...Who are the great multitude that are in front of the throne. These are those that were beheaded in the tribulation i believe.
The great multitude Did not die! They are coming out of the great tribulation Alive ! The Bible Did Not say they were dead .
In Revelation 7: 13 &14 says: then one of the elders answered saying to me, who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from? 14 and I said to him, "sir you know." So he said to me.
"These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and "washed there robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb
(It does not say they died but came out of the tribulation ) you added to Revelation not a good thing where does it say they died?
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The Bible specifically does not say Jesus is coming before the tribulation. Please show me where it says this.
Just what the bible said they are. The great multitude is all the saints of God from Adam hitherto.
how do the 144,000 become saved?
The testing is not the tribulation
Pastor Tiff I love & respect your teaching. However can I point out that the people that I try to lead to Jesus don’t think they are sinners - they tell me they are as good as the next person & they haven’t done anything really bad like murder. They don’t see themselves as sinners at all, rather than , as you suggest their sin might be great. This would be people from Britain and Australia. I don’t know about Americans. Just an observation. Mollie
I have a great friend I thought, but her daughter is a gay and I tried talking to her about it and she says God is love and thinks it's ok. I just care for their souls. She won't speak to me now
I'm holding my post tribulation view. You can try and twist it as much as you want but it's not going to change my view. You should teach people all the views completely
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Brother Tiff, I must disagree with you on this great multitude. for several reasons. First, you shocked me when you read from the NLT. I believe that is the ONLY English translation that tells us this huge crowd died. Most English translations tell us they came, come or have come. Now I see that I cannot trust the NLT.
Next, for a good exegesis of a verse, we must consider the context. Too often in Revelation people need to back up a few paces from an individual verse so they can see the entire forest, rather than examining one tree. Where is John in His narrative here? Most people get this answer wrong too. This is before any part of the tribulation or 70th week. The 70th week does not begin in Revelation until the 7th seal, and with the first trumpet judgment.
Where does John cover the days of great tribulation (GT) that Jesus spoke about? Jesus said those days would not come until after the abomination that divides the week. John gave us 5 anchor points that positively anchor chapters 11, 12, and 13 as midpoint chapters. In fact, the Antichrist Beast was not seen rising to power until chapter 13. What will CAUSE those days of GT Jesus spoke of? It will be the enforcing of the mark of the Beast, and the enforcing of worship to the image.
These things will not be enforced until AFTER God sends angels to warn the people not to take the mark, and we find that warning in chapter 14. In short, the days of GT Jesus spoke of will not begin in Revelation until late in chapter 14. This is confirmed in chapter 15 when John begins to see the first martyrs of the Beast begin to show up in heaven.
Therefore, it is simply impossible that these people are killed in the days of GT that Jesus spoke of. So who then are they? If we believe Paul in 1 Thes. 4 & 5, that the rapture will come JUST before the start of the Day of the Lord and the start of God's wrath, and if we believe John that the Day of the Lord (also called the day of His wrath) will begin at the 6th seal, and if we believe what John wrote about those marytrs of the church age at the 6th seal-that judgment will not begin until the final martyr is killed as they were all killed-as church age martrys, then the only place in Revelation that fits Paul's rapture is just before the 6th seal start of God's wrath.
Most people "jump the gun" so to speak in Revelation and imagine John is in the 70th week, when in fact, he is still in the church age. The church age will end at the rapture, and the rapture will probably be the trigger for the Day of the Lord. In other words, this group probably just arrived in heaven in the timing of Revelation 7; just after the start of the Day of the Lord and the start of God's wrath. Many people imagine that God's wrath begins with the first seal. They have pulled that first seal out of its early church context: Jesus got the book and began opening the seals as soon as He ascended, probably right after telling Mary that He had not yet ascended.
Without a doubt, then, this great crowd is the just-raptured church. No other crowd would be so large. The church is be perhaps 50 generations of believers all in the same place at the same time. There will be no other crowd mentioned in Revelation so large. Not only the church, but all the children, another billion of so people.
What did John mean then, that these came out of the great tribulation? Jesus said that in this world we will have tribulation. What if we combined all the combined tribulation of billions of people? Could we call that "mega" or great tribulation? Many people imagine this is the answer to how this great crowd suddenly got from earth to heaven. That is not the answer given. Another question was, Who they were. That is the question that was answered. HOW did each one of this huge crowd become a member of this group? They washed their robes in the blood of Jesus. In other words, they got born again. They are here in heaven because they are "In Christ" at the time of the rapture.
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A while back I asked God in prayer when, as in sequential order, not date wise, when the rapture will be.
Then he suddenly gave me the answer, "look up tribulation".
I thought, weeellll, then I typed into the search bar on bible gateway the term tribulation, (I've never done that before) and would you believe it, the last time tribulation is mentioned is in revelation 7:14?
Now, I believe because of what I'm seeing now, we are in the tribulation, thlipsis in Greek which means "hemming in" as in labour for instance.
When in human history has the whole world been so hemmed in from every side AT THE SAME TIME? Never!
What pre tribulationists think of the tribulation is really for the Jews. What Jesus referred to was for the whole world designed to squeeze out the true believers, and isn't that what's been happening over the past 3 plus years. Btw. the 7 years will start some time after our departure (in the rapture). This is just how I see it. God bless.
ETERNAL GLORY TO THE ONLY HEAVENLY FATHER YAHUAH AND HIS SON YAHUSHA! THE RIGHT NAME OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS YAHUAH, AND THE NAME OF HIS SON OF OUR SAVIOR IS YAHUSHA! LORD, GOD ETC ... THESE ARE ONLY PAGAN TITLES REPLACED BY REAL HEBREW NAMES. ALL PRAISE TO THE MOST HIGH YAHUAH! HalleluYAH!
Where is the division of church age saints from other saints in scripture. Rev 3 I will keep you from it the hour of testing. It may not mean keeping them from being beaten shoot or killed Did Jesus keep his Apostles from being tested . No he did not Simon Peter Satan has demanded to have you to test you But I have prayed for you . Did he keep them from persecution no he didn't Those who live a Godly life will be persecuted. There is no church age saints .
The rapture and the second coming are the same event. Matt 24
No the Rapture is a secret event for Christians. The second coming everyone remaining on the earth will see him.
Bro. Tiff I have been serving the Lord here in the Philippines for about the same length as you do. I have been deriving inspiration from your life and sermons. I tend to believe that the great multitude in Rev. are Jews if not mostly. God's time for the Gentiles are over as per dispensation and now He turns to His Chosen People and graft them in again. At this time " salvation will be for the Jews" all Israel will be saved".(Rom. 11 esp. v. 26). I also leanred from you that after 1/3 of mankind were killed "the rest did not repent (Rev. 9:20)..and "He (Satan) causes ALL both small and great..to receive a mark on their foreheads and their right hand.." (Rev. 13:16). Those receiving the "seal of God on their foreheads" are the only exception.. like the seal w/c is the Holy Spirit exclusively given to the raptured Church..who are Gentiles but the latter now is for the Jews. Would the "all nations, tribes, peoples.." pertain only to the regathered Jews because "all Israel will be saved? as there are American Jews, Ethiopian, Indian, Iranian, etc. whose time has come to be saved? Would the time for the Gentiles is now up in the Rapture and the time for the Jews now starts during the Great Tribulation?