War is evolving to the point where immediate/low altitude air superiority must be achieved before troops can operate effectively within the battlespace. EW tools and some of the other solutions you mentioned seem pretty good as secondary and tertiary options. But I think the primary solution is creating a drone force that secures/shapes the battle space prior to mission and protects troops during mission. I'm talking hundreds/thousands of drones and different types in a force that is attached to a company
@GruntHacks A drone swarm would be one small aspect of what I am talking about. I am talking about a full spectrum drone force made up of different types of drones and with different capabilities, like recon, decoy, ew, intel gathering, resupply, and attack capabilites. We need to secure low and immediate altitude air superiority and maintain it before and after our troops enter the battle space. We need to think big picture and think beyond the curve because bandaid solutions like SOP changes aren't going to cut it
@GruntHacks Drones with ew capabilities could be used to disable enemy drones or could be used as decoys to create diversions and disrupt enemy drones. In Desert Storm, high altitude drones were used to confuse Iraqi air defenses, and I think the same thing could be used in the low altitudes. Attack drones would be used more so against the actual enemy troops, enemy armor, and enemy infrastructure. Overall, I think that ground troops at the Platoon level and lower would benefit from a drone force that secured and protected at least one grid square of space or more. As far as drone on drone, hunter killer drones are a thing. Have you seen Iranian drone capabilites?
USAF Security Forces. We’ve got handheld drone busters, gone through a few iterations of those. Designed to block the signal they receive and either make them crash or land in one piece. We had the “Skynet” rounds for the shotguns. Those were near on impossible. Out of 15 person class shooting birdshot and buckshot at fast flying drones, one person tagged one. Each shooter got to shoot until empty with the 870…. Give us something like the USAS-12 shotgun with a drum mag and maybe we’ll see results. So sure, our career field leadership is trying to address the problem, but so far, we haven’t found anything that makes the guy on the ground carrying the equipment feel like he’s prepared and ready. Think that Thomas Edison quote can be tailored a bit. “We didn’t fail 99 times to deal with drones, we learned 99 times what didn’t work”.
Just sent this to my son (along with some others of yours). He's headed out this week back to finish MCT and from there to the LAAD schoolhouse. When he contracted I told him I'd lay money he'd get LAAD because like you said, we are years behind the power curve on this and he's going to be in the thick of working this problem.
You raise a great point here. You don’t use the exact language I do but here’s how I summarize the issue: “We are reactive to drones, not proactive. Once acquired by a drone the initiative is held by the opposition, all actions on the ground are simply reaction. Any passive mitigating steps taken by ground forces (hiding, getting to cover, etc) are nullified due to the amount of repeated strikes a drone can guide to target” I think really all the US has to offer widespread to dismounted troops at this very moment is applying the old doctrine of assigning an air guard. This is old fashioned but it’s step one, builds that situational awareness. However you illustrated quite well why this is only a fraction of a solution. The US also has jammers such as the Duke and CVRJ for vehicles, there’s also the THOR and MODI II for dismounts. There’s just only so many and only so many trained on it. EW jammers mean a lot of risk when active and both sides in Ukraine are finding ways to reduce effectiveness of these systems. Your idea of activating a jammer only once ID’ed makes sense. Reduces your chances of getting detected and targeted (at least effectively) by a SIGINT team. I fear that even with the bubble these provide certain drones, FPV ones mainly, may have enough momentum to make impact. It would reduce the effectiveness sure but by what margin of error would take some testing. There’s also a future possibility that we use small, portable jammers that are sacrificial. Drop a few of them over a wide area so they have overlap. Who cares if the enemy hits them? We just deploy more. At that point it’s really just an economics question of how many of these jammers can we make, how effective they are, and are they forcing the enemy to use more expensive means to destroy them. There was very recently made a request by the US for sacrificial SUAV’s, perhaps next we’ll see small sacrificial EW platforms. I agree with that directional jammers probably aren’t an option for the infantry, at least outside of static posts. The weight and logistical burden of batteries would only further slow and encumber your forces. Maybe a version that could mount to UTV’s, JLTV’s, etc would be more useful. It would act almost like LAAD but on a smaller level. You could attach it to CAAT and have it available to swap out with one of their 50 cals. If you really get creative maybe there’s a way to fit it to CROW and CROW-LP so it can mount into ACV’s too. Then that vehicle would act as the air guard for the CAAT/ ACV element, and thus be a level of air defense you can task within battalions. I think ultimately the goal would look more like a platoon level air guard that can be proactive and take initiative. Which will be difficult as it will almost certainly mean more weight for someone, possibly even new tasking within platoons and squads. We already have EPW teams, Aid and litter teams, demo teams/ combat engineers, and they’ll even attach javelin teams (they’ll also attach HUMINT guys, SIGINT from RadBN, etc but they’re owned much higher in the food chain in the MAGTF/ MEU/ whatever). I’d argue it’s time to introduce a counter-SUAV team. Shotguns are another option but everything I’ve seen really shows those are only good well within 100m. This is basically useless because the only drones getting that close are FPV kamikazes. Maybe occasionally the drones using dropped munitions will be just low and still enough to work. However unless the US develops a shotgun load specifically tailored for drones I wouldn’t just go out and try it. Especially since most units only have the M500’s you have only five chances to hit your target. Half of the time the armory guys don’t know how to maintain the shotguns well either so many have some issues with cycling well. Great little lecture you got going, I hope more people see it and think of how to address the issue at hand
After seeing all these scenarios over the last couple years, I don’t see a solution beyond squad level EW equipment. Man portable jamming equipment needs to have massive investment made into it for this to be truly viable, right now it’s just not there. Beyond that, you need you be able to strike enemy drone production facilities. Neither ukr or Russia have the ability to do this. The fact that there has still been no move to involve a squad/platoon/company level drone operators, especially with fpv technology, seems insane to me. All this money being spent on ngsw and ivas isn’t gonna help worth a damn in these situations, unless some big changes are made.
Thanks for this vid. Wish higher would create training plans to work solely on these threats instead of buddy rushing in open terrain. And theres only so much you can do patrolling with broomsticks in the rear painting scenarios like this during wide space and not have proper field ops to work on this.
1) shotgun in every squad or team + actually train guys to shoot at moving targets in the air, and have guys looking and listening upwards for drones. 2) more focus on jamming - in Ukraine many vehicles have their own individual jammers. Even if a manpack jammer weighs 40 lbs, maybe it's worth the weight. 3) autocannons with radar and proximity fuses, ww2 style - can't use patriot missiles to shoot down $700 drones. 4) more focus on concealment, overhead cover, and dispersal/spacing, etc. basically not being seen in the first place and hardening positions to reduce damage if you are spotted 5) slat/cage armor on every inch of every vehicle - including cope cages, you can literally destroy or mission kill an M1 abrams by strapping an RPG warhead to a drone and flying it into the roof. We need cope cages. 6) our training centers/opfor need to start using drones way more, in general, and more realistically. I've been detected and targeted by recon drones spotting for artillery, which is a good start - that's where the actual bulk of casualties from drones are coming from, by improving the accuracy of artillery. But how about FPV suicide drones? Drones flying overhead and dropping arty sims? Drones being used to deploy mines in our rear areas? Loitering munitions that outrange cannon artillery? Both sides are beginning to use AI to have semiautonomous drones that can't be jammed because they're flying on their own. How many years or decades will it take for that to be replicated by our training centers? 7) There needs to be a "what do do if a drone sees us" battle drill. In training I've seen leaders paralyzed by indecision when detected by a drone because there's no Army Right Answer. There needs to be a step by step "What to do if drones" battle drill.
The MRIC concept/ unit as well as the MRAD is a good place to start, however it's time the USMC attached squads of LAAD Marines to the infantry, and worked on developing a SHORAD turret for the HMMWV/ JLTV. I'd even argue they should stand up a Reserve LAAD Bn to augment 3rd LAAB in the Pacific (at K-Bay).
Jammers won’t work against a near peer threat for long. Autonomous vision based drones are already a well established technology. The only real solution is a counter drone swarm. That can be launched from the team or delivered to an area utilizing larger aircraft.
Jammers, apart from glowing on ELINT, probably wont work on the models that will use AI for terminal guidance. Shotguns will be difficult to use for drones designed to jink before impact. Imagine a suicide drone receiving verification for the target then dropping down on the deck and executing terrain avoidance and/or jinking for the last 200m. Only thing i can think for this type of systems is an APS like trophy / iron fist with automatic hard kill at close range, meaning in a vehicle for mech infantry. Still could be overcome by swarms.
I see a lot of people suggesting shotguns but at the speed that even commercial drones fly I doubt even multiple people armed with shotguns would be able to react, let alone accurately fire at an approaching drone. These things aren’t like doves and ducks. Especially with the spotter and suicide drone combo the suicide drone could just observe for as long as it wants before it strikes from a safe distance/position. I think the best option for dealing with them is going to have to be preventing them from getting airborne in the first place because once they’re up I don’t see much that can stop them.
I've never served, so my opinion here is simply worth its face value. That out of the way, a few thoughts come to my mind: The first, being the survivability onion. Granted its a model applied chiefly to vehicles, but the principles of don't be seen/identified/acquired/engaged/hit/affected all speak to several opportunities to mitigate drone threats. One idea that comes immediately to my mind is instead of active counter-uas/jamming systems, instead have passive man portable sensors that will detect spectrum commonly used by these drones and alert the soldiers, much like existing IR warning receivers. A second point; given we have been shown by Ukraine how effective drone warfare can be, why are we not seeing it used in other conflicts? Myanmar or Palestine spring immediately to mind. (this isn't a gotcha question. I am legitimately curious as to why this war is the only one where we are seeing *effective* drone warfare.)
So the question posed in the video is what to do after you’ve been visually compromised. That being said, a drone detector that has spectrum analysis capabilities is great, but it doesn’t actively down the drone after it’s seen you. I believe the supply chain in the other two areas mentioned just isn’t as streamlined or available the way it is in the European theater. I have seen some drone footage of Hamas using drone in a similar fashion here. It’s not reported on for some reason but Israel is absolutely winning at the “smart” drone game right now. They’ve been using drones that once you lock the target, the drone will turn into quite literally a missile and you can just walk away essentially and move on to the next target with another of the same drone
Thank you for this enlightening and sobering video. It’s scary to see how quickly an attacking force can lose the initiative with a single well placed drone. It is clear that small scale drones with high explosive can place our infantry in a dilemma. Unlike tasking an individual to act as a connecting file in MOUT, I do not see how, at the squad level, you can task an individual in the squad to monitor the airspace above the squad while conducting an attack. Or maybe you could? It seems very risky to do while trying to do fire and movement at the same time. I know we attempt to isolate an objective before conducting an attack but SUAS isolation must be considered as part of the thought process as well. I don’t know what that would look like in practice. SUAS isolation might be something that happens at the company level to support a platoon or squad attack? It’s fascinating to see MCDP 1-3 Adapting in practice.
EW at the squad level, as others are suggesting, isn't super practical because it would immediately paint your suqad as a massive target for conventional radar seeking missiles.
Fortunately, as of now, radar-seeking missiles are incredibly more expensive and will not be worth using on infantryman. In addition, layering/redundency of jammers and SHORAD may shield the jammers from precision strikes.
Damn, appreciate the vid. Do you have any insight as to the Russian EW capabilities? In/around Bakhmut almost 50% of the time our team was using drones they were taken down. I have no insights as to the effects of Ukr EW, but i did see several of those handheld jammers (the ones that look like scifi weapons). As far as I could tell, the name of the game for Russians was basically using EW in a terrain denial fashion as opposed to targeting individually
More EW at the squad level, shot gun loads for shooting them down they already have them for brecahing, GWOT had ied jammer pack, EW guns with a drone team attachment, get back to the basic like camouflage and immediate action drills
A great video talking abt drones in the Russian Ukraine war is here by Perun : ruclips.net/video/AlpZf1hpQYM/видео.htmlsi=3TImmocW8Sbb5Uh4 , it’s a great analysis of how this has grown and is a must watch for grunts.
War is evolving to the point where immediate/low altitude air superiority must be achieved before troops can operate effectively within the battlespace. EW tools and some of the other solutions you mentioned seem pretty good as secondary and tertiary options. But I think the primary solution is creating a drone force that secures/shapes the battle space prior to mission and protects troops during mission. I'm talking hundreds/thousands of drones and different types in a force that is attached to a company
So like a swarm?
@GruntHacks A drone swarm would be one small aspect of what I am talking about. I am talking about a full spectrum drone force made up of different types of drones and with different capabilities, like recon, decoy, ew, intel gathering, resupply, and attack capabilites. We need to secure low and immediate altitude air superiority and maintain it before and after our troops enter the battle space. We need to think big picture and think beyond the curve because bandaid solutions like SOP changes aren't going to cut it
They could enhance a defense in depth as well. But we need a lot of them and different types
@@trippskits2503 how would you see drone on drone warfare being conducted?
@GruntHacks Drones with ew capabilities could be used to disable enemy drones or could be used as decoys to create diversions and disrupt enemy drones. In Desert Storm, high altitude drones were used to confuse Iraqi air defenses, and I think the same thing could be used in the low altitudes. Attack drones would be used more so against the actual enemy troops, enemy armor, and enemy infrastructure. Overall, I think that ground troops at the Platoon level and lower would benefit from a drone force that secured and protected at least one grid square of space or more. As far as drone on drone, hunter killer drones are a thing. Have you seen Iranian drone capabilites?
USAF Security Forces. We’ve got handheld drone busters, gone through a few iterations of those. Designed to block the signal they receive and either make them crash or land in one piece. We had the “Skynet” rounds for the shotguns. Those were near on impossible. Out of 15 person class shooting birdshot and buckshot at fast flying drones, one person tagged one. Each shooter got to shoot until empty with the 870…. Give us something like the USAS-12 shotgun with a drum mag and maybe we’ll see results. So sure, our career field leadership is trying to address the problem, but so far, we haven’t found anything that makes the guy on the ground carrying the equipment feel like he’s prepared and ready. Think that Thomas Edison quote can be tailored a bit. “We didn’t fail 99 times to deal with drones, we learned 99 times what didn’t work”.
Just sent this to my son (along with some others of yours). He's headed out this week back to finish MCT and from there to the LAAD schoolhouse. When he contracted I told him I'd lay money he'd get LAAD because like you said, we are years behind the power curve on this and he's going to be in the thick of working this problem.
That’s awesome! Yeah he’s in for a large work load. Keep supporting him and he’ll go far
@@GruntHacks do recommend someone to go infrantry or reconnaissance first?
You raise a great point here. You don’t use the exact language I do but here’s how I summarize the issue:
“We are reactive to drones, not proactive. Once acquired by a drone the initiative is held by the opposition, all actions on the ground are simply reaction. Any passive mitigating steps taken by ground forces (hiding, getting to cover, etc) are nullified due to the amount of repeated strikes a drone can guide to target”
I think really all the US has to offer widespread to dismounted troops at this very moment is applying the old doctrine of assigning an air guard. This is old fashioned but it’s step one, builds that situational awareness. However you illustrated quite well why this is only a fraction of a solution.
The US also has jammers such as the Duke and CVRJ for vehicles, there’s also the THOR and MODI II for dismounts. There’s just only so many and only so many trained on it. EW jammers mean a lot of risk when active and both sides in Ukraine are finding ways to reduce effectiveness of these systems. Your idea of activating a jammer only once ID’ed makes sense. Reduces your chances of getting detected and targeted (at least effectively) by a SIGINT team. I fear that even with the bubble these provide certain drones, FPV ones mainly, may have enough momentum to make impact. It would reduce the effectiveness sure but by what margin of error would take some testing. There’s also a future possibility that we use small, portable jammers that are sacrificial. Drop a few of them over a wide area so they have overlap. Who cares if the enemy hits them? We just deploy more. At that point it’s really just an economics question of how many of these jammers can we make, how effective they are, and are they forcing the enemy to use more expensive means to destroy them. There was very recently made a request by the US for sacrificial SUAV’s, perhaps next we’ll see small sacrificial EW platforms.
I agree with that directional jammers probably aren’t an option for the infantry, at least outside of static posts. The weight and logistical burden of batteries would only further slow and encumber your forces. Maybe a version that could mount to UTV’s, JLTV’s, etc would be more useful. It would act almost like LAAD but on a smaller level. You could attach it to CAAT and have it available to swap out with one of their 50 cals. If you really get creative maybe there’s a way to fit it to CROW and CROW-LP so it can mount into ACV’s too. Then that vehicle would act as the air guard for the CAAT/ ACV element, and thus be a level of air defense you can task within battalions. I think ultimately the goal would look more like a platoon level air guard that can be proactive and take initiative. Which will be difficult as it will almost certainly mean more weight for someone, possibly even new tasking within platoons and squads. We already have EPW teams, Aid and litter teams, demo teams/ combat engineers, and they’ll even attach javelin teams (they’ll also attach HUMINT guys, SIGINT from RadBN, etc but they’re owned much higher in the food chain in the MAGTF/ MEU/ whatever). I’d argue it’s time to introduce a counter-SUAV team.
Shotguns are another option but everything I’ve seen really shows those are only good well within 100m. This is basically useless because the only drones getting that close are FPV kamikazes. Maybe occasionally the drones using dropped munitions will be just low and still enough to work. However unless the US develops a shotgun load specifically tailored for drones I wouldn’t just go out and try it. Especially since most units only have the M500’s you have only five chances to hit your target. Half of the time the armory guys don’t know how to maintain the shotguns well either so many have some issues with cycling well.
Great little lecture you got going, I hope more people see it and think of how to address the issue at hand
This is an amazing comment!
@@GruntHacks I appreciate it man, it’s something I think about a lot.
After seeing all these scenarios over the last couple years, I don’t see a solution beyond squad level EW equipment.
Man portable jamming equipment needs to have massive investment made into it for this to be truly viable, right now it’s just not there.
Beyond that, you need you be able to strike enemy drone production facilities. Neither ukr or Russia have the ability to do this.
The fact that there has still been no move to involve a squad/platoon/company level drone operators, especially with fpv technology, seems insane to me. All this money being spent on ngsw and ivas isn’t gonna help worth a damn in these situations, unless some big changes are made.
Thanks for this vid. Wish higher would create training plans to work solely on these threats instead of buddy rushing in open terrain. And theres only so much you can do patrolling with broomsticks in the rear painting scenarios like this during wide space and not have proper field ops to work on this.
1) shotgun in every squad or team + actually train guys to shoot at moving targets in the air, and have guys looking and listening upwards for drones.
2) more focus on jamming - in Ukraine many vehicles have their own individual jammers. Even if a manpack jammer weighs 40 lbs, maybe it's worth the weight.
3) autocannons with radar and proximity fuses, ww2 style - can't use patriot missiles to shoot down $700 drones.
4) more focus on concealment, overhead cover, and dispersal/spacing, etc. basically not being seen in the first place and hardening positions to reduce damage if you are spotted
5) slat/cage armor on every inch of every vehicle - including cope cages, you can literally destroy or mission kill an M1 abrams by strapping an RPG warhead to a drone and flying it into the roof. We need cope cages.
6) our training centers/opfor need to start using drones way more, in general, and more realistically. I've been detected and targeted by recon drones spotting for artillery, which is a good start - that's where the actual bulk of casualties from drones are coming from, by improving the accuracy of artillery. But how about FPV suicide drones? Drones flying overhead and dropping arty sims? Drones being used to deploy mines in our rear areas? Loitering munitions that outrange cannon artillery? Both sides are beginning to use AI to have semiautonomous drones that can't be jammed because they're flying on their own. How many years or decades will it take for that to be replicated by our training centers?
7) There needs to be a "what do do if a drone sees us" battle drill. In training I've seen leaders paralyzed by indecision when detected by a drone because there's no Army Right Answer. There needs to be a step by step "What to do if drones" battle drill.
I thought the AI point you made was bone chilling
@@GruntHacks do you recommend someone to go infrantry or reconnaissance first?
@@emmanuelawosusi2365 depends on what you’re looking for, I’d recommend INF first then recon but of course I’m biased
@@GruntHacks thanks
@@GruntHacks do the guys in the infrantry take it seriously like guys in recon or marsoc?
The MRIC concept/ unit as well as the MRAD is a good place to start, however it's time the USMC attached squads of LAAD Marines to the infantry, and worked on developing a SHORAD turret for the HMMWV/ JLTV. I'd even argue they should stand up a Reserve LAAD Bn to augment 3rd LAAB in the Pacific (at K-Bay).
When I learned LAAD was only in Air Wings, I was shocked. Super weird to me.
Jammers won’t work against a near peer threat for long. Autonomous vision based drones are already a well established technology.
The only real solution is a counter drone swarm. That can be launched from the team or delivered to an area utilizing larger aircraft.
Jammers, apart from glowing on ELINT, probably wont work on the models that will use AI for terminal guidance. Shotguns will be difficult to use for drones designed to jink before impact. Imagine a suicide drone receiving verification for the target then dropping down on the deck and executing terrain avoidance and/or jinking for the last 200m. Only thing i can think for this type of systems is an APS like trophy / iron fist with automatic hard kill at close range, meaning in a vehicle for mech infantry. Still could be overcome by swarms.
Yeah it’ll be interesting to see what tech comes to answer this problem
I see a lot of people suggesting shotguns but at the speed that even commercial drones fly I doubt even multiple people armed with shotguns would be able to react, let alone accurately fire at an approaching drone. These things aren’t like doves and ducks. Especially with the spotter and suicide drone combo the suicide drone could just observe for as long as it wants before it strikes from a safe distance/position. I think the best option for dealing with them is going to have to be preventing them from getting airborne in the first place because once they’re up I don’t see much that can stop them.
I've never served, so my opinion here is simply worth its face value. That out of the way, a few thoughts come to my mind: The first, being the survivability onion. Granted its a model applied chiefly to vehicles, but the principles of don't be seen/identified/acquired/engaged/hit/affected all speak to several opportunities to mitigate drone threats. One idea that comes immediately to my mind is instead of active counter-uas/jamming systems, instead have passive man portable sensors that will detect spectrum commonly used by these drones and alert the soldiers, much like existing IR warning receivers.
A second point; given we have been shown by Ukraine how effective drone warfare can be, why are we not seeing it used in other conflicts? Myanmar or Palestine spring immediately to mind. (this isn't a gotcha question. I am legitimately curious as to why this war is the only one where we are seeing *effective* drone warfare.)
So the question posed in the video is what to do after you’ve been visually compromised. That being said, a drone detector that has spectrum analysis capabilities is great, but it doesn’t actively down the drone after it’s seen you.
I believe the supply chain in the other two areas mentioned just isn’t as streamlined or available the way it is in the European theater. I have seen some drone footage of Hamas using drone in a similar fashion here. It’s not reported on for some reason but Israel is absolutely winning at the “smart” drone game right now. They’ve been using drones that once you lock the target, the drone will turn into quite literally a missile and you can just walk away essentially and move on to the next target with another of the same drone
@@GruntHacks thank
Thank you for this enlightening and sobering video. It’s scary to see how quickly an attacking force can lose the initiative with a single well placed drone. It is clear that small scale drones with high explosive can place our infantry in a dilemma.
Unlike tasking an individual to act as a connecting file in MOUT, I do not see how, at the squad level, you can task an individual in the squad to monitor the airspace above the squad while conducting an attack. Or maybe you could? It seems very risky to do while trying to do fire and movement at the same time. I know we attempt to isolate an objective before conducting an attack but SUAS isolation must be considered as part of the thought process as well. I don’t know what that would look like in practice. SUAS isolation might be something that happens at the company level to support a platoon or squad attack?
It’s fascinating to see MCDP 1-3 Adapting in practice.
EW at the squad level, as others are suggesting, isn't super practical because it would immediately paint your suqad as a massive target for conventional radar seeking missiles.
Yeah that was the main draw back that I was thinking
Fortunately, as of now, radar-seeking missiles are incredibly more expensive and will not be worth using on infantryman. In addition, layering/redundency of jammers and SHORAD may shield the jammers from precision strikes.
Damn, appreciate the vid. Do you have any insight as to the Russian EW capabilities? In/around Bakhmut almost 50% of the time our team was using drones they were taken down.
I have no insights as to the effects of Ukr EW, but i did see several of those handheld jammers (the ones that look like scifi weapons).
As far as I could tell, the name of the game for Russians was basically using EW in a terrain denial fashion as opposed to targeting individually
Correct Russia general likes to do large sweeping actions
@@GruntHacks great video
More EW at the squad level, shot gun loads for shooting them down they already have them for brecahing, GWOT had ied jammer pack, EW guns with a drone team attachment, get back to the basic like camouflage and immediate action drills
I like the EW at the squad level
woudlnt birdshot be more effective than buckshot for use against drones?
Correct I mis-spoke!! Thank you!
tough to watch
Trap and skeet?
Something like that!
A great video talking abt drones in the Russian Ukraine war is here by Perun : ruclips.net/video/AlpZf1hpQYM/видео.htmlsi=3TImmocW8Sbb5Uh4 , it’s a great analysis of how this has grown and is a must watch for grunts.
Oh hell yeah this is good stuff, this is what I'm talking about. Knowledge spread through community!
@@GruntHacks this guy makes amazing stuff, it’s basically a college level lecture biased on current events that anyone can listen too.