Listen kid, ballon dor is not a Top scorer award or not a Most goal + assist award. goals and assists matter but not that only. Ballon dor is only given on the basis of individual performance and collective performance with the team. Thats why ribery deserved more than ronaldo in 2013. Ribery won treble and uefa super cup + club world cup. not only the trophys but also He was selected as the Best player in the UCL, Bundesliga and Europe that year. what's more ribery have to achieve to deserv ballondor?. 2013 - GREATEST ROBBERY IN BALLONDOR HISTORY
Nonsense Ronaldo didn’t win any trophy that year !!! And without trophy nobody should and can win the ballon D’or !! So the Ballon D’or 2013 was pretty much the biggest robbery in football !!!
So what you're saying is that those stats are better than winning a treble. Considering the fact that Ronaldo didn't even win any trophy that year. It's clearly day light robbery but I fear sth like that could happen again with Messi and haaland in this year Balon dor
Ribery stats 2012/13(Source:Google): 56 games 26 goals 27 assists Playing in Bundesliga with strongest team. Cr7 stats 2013: 69 goals Golden boot shared with Suarez. UCL top scorer. IFFHS best scorer in the first division. La Liga player of the month. 16 assists Playing in La Liga Most decisive player of LA Liga.
Ofc Penaldo fans gonna try and defend Penaldo even if he didnt win any trophies 😭😭 but no if Messi won a Ballon D'or without any trophies and more goals then they wouldnt stop barking 😂😂😂 ofc Ribery got robbed
@@efsgaming4935 2010 Messi 57 Games 47 Goals 13 Assists La Liga top scorer La Liga MVP Golden shoe UCL Top Scorer Pichichi Trophy Iniesta: 49 games 3 goals 9 assists Messi won the ballon dor in 2023 not only cause he wob the wc but also cause he was the POTT and won the Golden Ball. Was Iniesta the POTT and won the Golden Ball? 2015 Messi stats 43 games 45 goals 16 assists 210 shots 100 key passes 242 dribbles 32 tackles 8.84 average rating Team trophies: UCL, La Liga, Copa del Rey and UEFA Super Cup Individual Awards: UEFA Player of the Year, UCL Top scorer, UCL Top Assister Neymar stats: 45 games 33 goals 12 assists 149 shots 114 key passes 179 dribbles 64 tackles 8.26 average rating Team trophies: UCL, Copa Del Ray, La Liga, UEFA Super Cup Individual awards: 0 2019 Messi: 58 games 54 goals 20 assists Golden Shoe Top scorer in La Liga Top scorer in UCL La Liga winner Spanish Super Cup He carried Barcelona that season, don't you think he deserves after all that carrying? 2021 Messi stats: 49 games 40 goals 16 assists 103 shots on target 2525 accurate passes 224 dribbles COMPLETED 118 chances created 26 big chances created 31 tackles 22 points won by goals 39 points won by G/A 9 match winning goals 15 match winning G/A 27 MOTM Team Trophies: Copa America, Copa del Ray Individual Awards: La Liga top scorer, Copa America top scorer, Copa America top assister, Copa America POTT Records broken: Most NT Goals in CONMEBOL, Most goals in a single club Lewandowski stats: 45 games 54 goals 8 assists 98 shots on target 715 accurate passes 48 dribbles completed 55 chances created 16 big chances created 12 tackles 20 points won by goals 25points won by G/A 8 match winning goals 10 match winning G/A 13 MOTM Team trophies: Bundesliga, Club WC Individual Awards: Bundesliga top scorer, European Golden Shoe, Club WC Golden Ball Records broken: Most goals in a single Bundesliga season 2023 Messi stats: 46 Games 58 Goals Contributions 35 goals 23 assists 99 shots on target 3615 touches 2592 acurrate passes 127 chances created 40 big chances created 138 dribbles completed 37 tackles 32 points won by G/A 31 Clutch G/A Team trophies: World Cup, Ligue 1, French Supercup Individual awards: WC MVP, WC Golden Ball, WC Silver Boot, World Cup Top Assister, IFFHS Best playmaker 2022, IFFHS Best National Scorer 2022, Ligue 1 top assister, French Supercup MVP, Laureus 2023 SOTY, FIFA THE BEST 2022, IFFHS Best Player Haaland stats: 41 games 52 goal contributions 46 goals 6 assists 71 shots on target 940 touches 533 accurate passes 35 chances created 12 big chances created 14 dribbles completed 6 tackles 25 points won by G/A 20 Clutch G/A Team trophies: Treble Individual awards: Premier League MVP, EPL Young MVP, EPL Top Scorer, UCL Top Scorer and Golden Shoe Messi deserves all of the Ballon d'Or he received didn't he?
@@Kickyourcandyass Listen kid, ballon dor is not a Top scorer award or not a Most goal + assist award. GOALS AND ASSISTS MATTER BUT NOT THAT ONLY. because how can we compare in Balondor winner deciding process only by no:of goals and assists of a forward player with midfielder, defender and GK? its utterly nonsense. Ballon dor is given only on the basis of individual performance and collective performance with the team. Thats why ribery deserved more than ronaldo in 2013. Ribery won treble and uefa super cup + club world cup. not only the trophys but also He was selected as the Best player in the UCL, Best player in the Bundesliga and Best Player in the Europe that year. what's more ribery have to achieve to deserv ballondor?. 2013 - GREATEST ROBBERY IN BALLONDOR HISTORY
@@__j_o_s__kid I don't care if he won 50 trophies that year its about individual performance if it is a individual award why Messi won?Bro literally everyone so biased messi ain't even top 10 in scoring goals at 2023 and he is top 5 assister of this season even Neymar assisted more how he won the ballon d'or?Becz he won world cup?
@@Hyper_Gaming194and more over why messi won 2012 Ballon dor he neither won ucl nor any other major trophies only scoring 91goals in which 64 were tap ins and 16 pens 😂 wtf? Messi fans are so much delusional 🤡
This one is a hard argument but Cristiano carried the RM as far as he could. Messi had an average Messi season even while being injured and yes Ribery was insanely good that year but so was Bayern. Individually Cristiano no doubt was the winner though Ribery is a strong case to have won it.
To all the messi fans saying 2013 was rigged Ribbery was not even second he was third and Messi was second so if cr7 didnt win it messi would have won it
Deserved like its not all about goals and assists like let’s say you have like 130 goals and 50 assists or something but you win nothing. But let’s say someone else only got like 40 goals and assists but won everything. Sorry for making this so long
Ok but this is a individual trophy about how well this player did, not what trophies their team won. This is why me and most people think that haaland should have won the ballon dor instead of Messi. Yet in 2013 Ronaldo had more g/a than ribery and Messi combined they say ribery was robbed. And that’s why it doesn’t make sense to me
If we are talking about individual performance then messi should have only won As messi had more assists more g/a better international performance more dribbles more out of the box goals more free kicks more key passes more chances created better performance in semi finals and finals
Imo ronaldo deserved Edit: CAN U GUYS STOP REPLYING TO MY COMMENT WITH UR BS BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT ALL U MESSI FANS COMING AND CRYING WITH UR OPINIONS, THIS COMMENT WAS WRITTEN AGES AGO NOW SO JUST MOVE ON WITH UR LIFE AND STOP DEBATING ABOUT THIS MATTER WHEN NOBODY EVEN CARES ANYMORE
@@dumbledork_4543 for scoring the most goals most g/a in only 59 games great ucl season carrying Rm to the semi finals and final of copa del ray 12 goals ucl top goal scorers etc and he played lw just like frank
@@dumbledork_4543 well what if ronnie was on a goated bayren team he would of won trophies but he was on a dead madrid team with iker caslias out ramos out and mourinho with 3rd season problems🤣 and and carring them come'on now
Let me end this debate ronaldo 59 games 69 goals 39 man of the matches in the ucl he was the top scorer with 12 goals in 12 games ribery+messi 102 games 68 goals 36 man of the matches and 9 ucl goals
Listen kid, ballon dor is not a Top scorer award or not a Most goal + assist award. goals and assists matter but not that only. Ballon dor is only given on the basis of individual performance and collective performance with the team. Thats why ribery deserved more than ronaldo in 2013. Ribery won treble and uefa super cup + club world cup. not only the trophys but also He was selected as the Best player in the UCL, Bundesliga and Europe that year. what's more ribery have to achieve to deserv ballondor?. 2013 - GREATEST ROBBERY IN BALLONDOR HISTORY
@@BiliteW goals dont matter if that so then messi should win every ballon dor sincr he has mist g/a ration from every year , ribbery won everything that season he deserved it and ronaldo was gifted 2 ballon dors .
In 2013 ronaldo carried real madrid so hard and 84 G/A no cap ronaldo deserved
Listen kid, ballon dor is not a Top scorer award or not a Most goal + assist award. goals and assists matter but not that only. Ballon dor is only given on the basis of individual performance and collective performance with the team. Thats why ribery deserved more than ronaldo in 2013.
Ribery won treble and uefa super cup + club world cup. not only the trophys but also He was selected as the Best player in the UCL, Bundesliga and Europe that year. what's more ribery have to achieve to deserv ballondor?.
2013 - GREATEST ROBBERY IN BALLONDOR HISTORY
Nonsense Ronaldo didn’t win any trophy that year !!! And without trophy nobody should and can win the ballon D’or !! So the Ballon D’or 2013 was pretty much the biggest robbery in football !!!
@@__j_o_s__
When I saw that PSG logo, I stopped reading
@@__j_o_s__
2012 is the biggest robbery along with 2021 and 2023 🤣🤣🤣
@@f.n8581
Balon D'Or first rule is individual performance. Tell Ribbery to score 50+ goals first
Ronaldo scored 66 and assisted 15
After this no explanation is needed
Ronaldo don’t win any trophies that season
And 0 trophies 💀, yet Messi was the one who robbed in 2021
So what these numbers are once in a lifetime
So what you're saying is that those stats are better than winning a treble. Considering the fact that Ronaldo didn't even win any trophy that year. It's clearly day light robbery but I fear sth like that could happen again with Messi and haaland in this year Balon dor
@@dannymaximus-gx2qx ignore these people lol, they’re the type of people to say that Messi robbed the 2015 ballon d’or lmao
If ribbery got robbed then why did messi finish second 😂😂😂 .
Buddy it's based on individual performance not for winning tropies
Ribery stats 2012/13(Source:Google):
56 games
26 goals
27 assists
Playing in Bundesliga with strongest team.
Cr7 stats 2013:
69 goals
Golden boot shared with Suarez.
UCL top scorer.
IFFHS best scorer in the first division.
La Liga player of the month.
16 assists
Playing in La Liga
Most decisive player of LA Liga.
Ofc Penaldo fans gonna try and defend Penaldo even if he didnt win any trophies 😭😭 but no if Messi won a Ballon D'or without any trophies and more goals then they wouldnt stop barking 😂😂😂 ofc Ribery got robbed
Yeah and messi robbed 5 ballon d'or
@@efsgaming4935 claiming that Messi stole 5 Ballon D'ors proves my point even more 😂😂
kid why Alvarez didn't won ballon d'or then?treble + wc?stats matter go watch cartoon
@@efsgaming4935 2010 Messi
57 Games
47 Goals
13 Assists
La Liga top scorer
La Liga MVP
Golden shoe
UCL Top Scorer
Pichichi Trophy
Iniesta:
49 games
3 goals
9 assists
Messi won the ballon dor in 2023 not only cause he wob the wc but also cause he was the POTT and won the Golden Ball. Was Iniesta the POTT and won the Golden Ball?
2015 Messi stats
43 games
45 goals
16 assists
210 shots
100 key passes
242 dribbles
32 tackles
8.84 average rating
Team trophies: UCL, La Liga, Copa del Rey and UEFA Super Cup
Individual Awards: UEFA Player of the Year, UCL Top scorer, UCL Top Assister
Neymar stats:
45 games
33 goals
12 assists
149 shots
114 key passes
179 dribbles
64 tackles
8.26 average rating
Team trophies: UCL, Copa Del Ray, La Liga, UEFA Super Cup
Individual awards: 0
2019 Messi:
58 games
54 goals
20 assists
Golden Shoe
Top scorer in La Liga
Top scorer in UCL
La Liga winner
Spanish Super Cup
He carried Barcelona that season, don't you think he deserves after all that carrying?
2021 Messi stats: 49 games
40 goals
16 assists
103 shots on target
2525 accurate passes
224 dribbles COMPLETED
118 chances created
26 big chances created
31 tackles
22 points won by goals
39 points won by G/A
9 match winning goals
15 match winning G/A
27 MOTM
Team Trophies: Copa America, Copa del Ray
Individual Awards: La Liga top scorer, Copa America top scorer, Copa America top assister, Copa America POTT
Records broken: Most NT Goals in CONMEBOL, Most goals in a single club
Lewandowski stats: 45 games
54 goals
8 assists
98 shots on target
715 accurate passes
48 dribbles completed
55 chances created
16 big chances created
12 tackles
20 points won by goals
25points won by G/A
8 match winning goals
10 match winning G/A
13 MOTM
Team trophies: Bundesliga, Club WC
Individual Awards: Bundesliga top scorer, European Golden Shoe, Club WC Golden Ball
Records broken: Most goals in a single Bundesliga season
2023 Messi stats:
46 Games
58 Goals Contributions
35 goals
23 assists
99 shots on target
3615 touches
2592 acurrate passes
127 chances created
40 big chances created
138 dribbles completed
37 tackles
32 points won by G/A
31 Clutch G/A
Team trophies: World Cup, Ligue 1, French Supercup
Individual awards: WC MVP, WC Golden Ball, WC Silver Boot, World Cup Top Assister, IFFHS Best playmaker 2022, IFFHS Best National Scorer 2022, Ligue 1 top assister, French Supercup MVP, Laureus 2023 SOTY, FIFA THE BEST 2022, IFFHS Best Player
Haaland stats:
41 games
52 goal contributions
46 goals
6 assists
71 shots on target
940 touches
533 accurate passes
35 chances created
12 big chances created
14 dribbles completed
6 tackles
25 points won by G/A
20 Clutch G/A
Team trophies: Treble
Individual awards: Premier League MVP, EPL Young MVP, EPL Top Scorer, UCL Top Scorer and Golden Shoe
Messi deserves all of the Ballon d'Or he received didn't he?
Oh of course a toxic messi fan calls ronaldo penaldo
For sure! What a robbery.
I see what you did there give this men some likes
@@Kickyourcandyass Listen kid, ballon dor is not a Top scorer award or not a Most goal + assist award. GOALS AND ASSISTS MATTER BUT NOT THAT ONLY. because how can we compare in Balondor winner deciding process only by no:of goals and assists of a forward player with midfielder, defender and GK? its utterly nonsense. Ballon dor is given only on the basis of individual performance and collective performance with the team. Thats why ribery deserved more than ronaldo in 2013.
Ribery won treble and uefa super cup + club world cup. not only the trophys but also He was selected as the Best player in the UCL, Best player in the Bundesliga and Best Player in the Europe that year. what's more ribery have to achieve to deserv ballondor?.
2013 - GREATEST ROBBERY IN BALLONDOR HISTORY
@@__j_o_s__kid I don't care if he won 50 trophies that year its about individual performance if it is a individual award why Messi won?Bro literally everyone so biased messi ain't even top 10 in scoring goals at 2023 and he is top 5 assister of this season even Neymar assisted more how he won the ballon d'or?Becz he won world cup?
@@Hyper_Gaming194and more over why messi won 2012 Ballon dor he neither won ucl nor any other major trophies only scoring 91goals in which 64 were tap ins and 16 pens 😂 wtf?
Messi fans are so much delusional 🤡
😂 ball knowledge from internet 😂
This one is a hard argument but Cristiano carried the RM as far as he could. Messi had an average Messi season even while being injured and yes Ribery was insanely good that year but so was Bayern. Individually Cristiano no doubt was the winner though Ribery is a strong case to have won it.
so this means vvd deserved 2019 Iniesta 2010 lewa 2021
If its all about goal and assists
then messi would have 9 ballon d ors
Kid that year ronaldo scored 69 goals at 59 app where messi and ribbery scored 68
@@achkzai1303 bro thinks he is smart .
@@achkzai1303 kiddo i am talking about overall.
@@akashkharotia2969ballon dor isn’t just stats kid
@@Owner_of_Tesco kiddo . I am just telling that if it is based on goal and assists. Dont you know the meaning of if . Go and play ludo
To all the messi fans saying 2013 was rigged
Ribbery was not even second he was third and
Messi was second so if cr7 didnt win it messi would have won it
And what? Who got ballon?
@@Tyson6045 wtf are you trying to say
Ribery was always the same but only ever played two injury-free seasons. He rarely ever played a full game.
1 ucl goal only in group stage
Deserved like its not all about goals and assists like let’s say you have like 130 goals and 50 assists or something but you win nothing. But let’s say someone else only got like 40 goals and assists but won everything. Sorry for making this so long
Messi was the best player that season, but since the ballon d’or is about calendar year so for me it’s Ronaldo
Neuer should have won in 2013 and 2014
Ok but this is a individual trophy about how well this player did, not what trophies their team won. This is why me and most people think that haaland should have won the ballon dor instead of Messi. Yet in 2013 Ronaldo had more g/a than ribery and Messi combined they say ribery was robbed. And that’s why it doesn’t make sense to me
If we are talking about individual performance then messi should have only won
As messi had more assists more g/a better international performance more dribbles more out of the box goals more free kicks more key passes more chances created better performance in semi finals and finals
@@aryashah-qi6zywhat year your talking about ?
@@Ronaldo-vk1vn I am talking 2023 ballondor
How 2013 ronaldo had more g/a than both messi and ribery
Ribery had 40 g/a
Idk how much g/a messi had but he had 45 goals
Whereas ronaldo had 84 g/a
You guys say it's only about individual performance than why ronaldo won in 2013 with 84 g/a but messi didn't won in 2016 with 90 g/a 💀
For the past 13 years the ballon d’or was robbed
Imo ronaldo deserved
Edit: CAN U GUYS STOP REPLYING TO MY COMMENT WITH UR BS BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT ALL U MESSI FANS COMING AND CRYING WITH UR OPINIONS, THIS COMMENT WAS WRITTEN AGES AGO NOW SO JUST MOVE ON WITH UR LIFE AND STOP DEBATING ABOUT THIS MATTER WHEN NOBODY EVEN CARES ANYMORE
me too ronaldo deserved that
For what?
@@dumbledork_4543 for scoring the most goals most g/a in only 59 games great ucl season carrying Rm to the semi finals and final of copa del ray 12 goals ucl top goal scorers etc and he played lw just like frank
@@AmrAlnamer but didn't win anything
@@dumbledork_4543 well what if ronnie was on a goated bayren team he would of won trophies but he was on a dead madrid team with iker caslias out ramos out and mourinho with 3rd season problems🤣 and and carring them come'on now
If ballon dor is goal and assist😂
Let me end this debate ronaldo 59 games 69 goals 39 man of the matches in the ucl he was the top scorer with 12 goals in 12 games ribery+messi 102 games 68 goals 36 man of the matches and 9 ucl goals
If it's all about goal and assist why didn't messi won in 2017 and 2018?
Yes 🙌
Already seeing Ronaldo fans defending their Ronaldo. Bro won no trophies and still said that he deserved the d'Or. Are they on coca!ne?
No he shouldnt have cmon 66 goals and 15 assists cmon
That's very very impressive. But Ronaldo didn't win anything that season, plus Ribery even won UEFA player of the year over Ronaldo with being a LM.
@@Keli_mafuyufr
Listen kid, ballon dor is not a Top scorer award or not a Most goal + assist award. goals and assists matter but not that only. Ballon dor is only given on the basis of individual performance and collective performance with the team. Thats why ribery deserved more than ronaldo in 2013.
Ribery won treble and uefa super cup + club world cup. not only the trophys but also He was selected as the Best player in the UCL, Bundesliga and Europe that year. what's more ribery have to achieve to deserv ballondor?.
2013 - GREATEST ROBBERY IN BALLONDOR HISTORY
Yes !!!!
Umm actually Ronaldo was top scorer 🤓
Ribery all day long
COYG
There’s an award for that, it’s called the golden boot. And Messi has more 🤓
No
In the year😂😂
CR7 clearly deserved it Ronaldo was Himothy in2013
Nah
Penaldo fan and penaldo is a loser
Rapenaldo fan
@@boLTZEditOit’s not about fans .. ronaldo has more goals than all ribery contributions
@@BiliteW goals dont matter if that so then messi should win every ballon dor sincr he has mist g/a ration from every year , ribbery won everything that season he deserved it and ronaldo was gifted 2 ballon dors .
@@BiliteW its best playernot top scorer award