It has been a slow process, but this is now the Kwesi/KOC vision (almost) in place. Next year, their idea of what it takes to win a championship will be fully implemented--QBOTF starting and loads of cap space to fill the remaining gaps. For this year, it will be fun to watch without expectations. I suspect they will be better than people think because it looks like the defense got a lot better.
You as well as anyone should know, a first round pick is never a guarantee Judd. The problem was leveraging this and next years draft picks hoping for a Kirk comp pick and using free agency next year.
Judd always brings up how hard this system is to learn for JJ or Kirk. Remember that this is Darnolds first year in this system too.. JJ may pick it up faster.
My Hot take: The Vikings will make the play-offs this season. The defence looks massively improved, especially with the depth. Losing Hunter sucks, but adding Turner along with their free agent splashes should help the pass rush in a huge way, with threats from either side. In offence, I think Darnold has a strong bounce back season, especially with McCarthy waiting in the wings breathing down his necks. He does that with JJ, Addison, the returning Hockenson and an improved running game, then the Vikes are in business. Nobody will back them to do much this season, but I think they could shock everyone and go something like 10-7 and make the dance.
Aaron Jones needs to be utilized way more than any RB we have had under KOC. He needs to be running and catching passes a lot in this offense. Which means less touches even for JJ. I think we missed a huge opportunity in not going after Blake Corrum. So now Jones needs to be that guy for him.
Hot take Jefferson would have taken less money if Kirk stayed, the 28 million offered last was almost agreed to because of Kirk being around. I think they told JJ then Kirk would only be there another year so he didn't accept the offer last year.
Mullens having 3+ turnovers in every start tanked our turnovers also vikings just fumbling on a regular basis in the 1st half of the year mostly hock & Mattison
If any other team in the north would be floating around the idea of sam darnold making as a starter and making the playoffs you guys would be laughing your asses off
I need you guys to give your take on what Mike Florio has been saying over the last couple weeks about the Jefferson situation. According to him "the Vikings media has had their thumbs up their asses" for sleeping on the Nabers rumors....
Once JJ stats Sam will be the backup. I love the fact that they took a flyer on Jaren Hall, but he’s not gonna be a playable backup where Darnold would be.
Jefferson will have 2000 yards this season because the qb will be instructed to throw the ball to him every other play in order to get enough stats to justify that contract.
Oh we're going to do the Randy Ratio thing again? That smells like a disaster. Defenses are going to be all over that and whoever plays QB is going to throw 20+ INT's.
The randy ratio thing is a wreck They cant justify the cash if other players have better stats . It makes the offensive coordinator useless because its just about getting jefferson touches of the ball
Honestly, if JJ had 2000 yards, it would show a highly imbalanced offense. It would probably be from a lot of garbage time yards or just total lack of running game or both.
Write this down: JJ McCarthy will in some way surprise KOC this year. Aka, he pulls an audible or decision deep out of the playbook. I think JJ is pretty smart- and I think sometime this season, KoC will give him a bit of independence, and he’ll be (a good) surprised.
You are high if you think the Vikings have better personnel than the Packers or Lions Dec. There is a difference between being a homer and being realistic
Vikings are top heavy. As a roster Bears are more young, talented and cheap. Bears last three drafts have them in great position. Picking up quality starters from all rounds(unlike Vikings). Bears aquired quality free agents as well. What is even funnier is that you are always crowing about the upcoming cap space, but Bears actually have more cap space for 2025 than MN ...😂
I will say this. McCarthy doesn’t have a wife and two kids at home to distract him. So he might have the opportunity to get this playbook down faster than Kirk who obviously had his attention split.
Ugh I can't take it anymore with all this Kirk "Ironman" status! I mean how can you get hurt when you don't ever do anything on a consistent basis?! There's plenty of QB's out there making plays left and right extending plays, rushing & getting the ball off with pressure right in their face and sure they might get nicked up once and awhile but they WIN!!! They make the playoffs, they win playoff games, they win Super Bowls, they take risks etc. and succeed or are at least a real contender the Vikings under Kirk were NEVER a contender for anything.
If u go back and look at shot gun formation …u will see JJ has his right foot deeper than left.. which many have reported was not the case.. Do your homework!!!
To those rejoicing this jefferson signing you'd better enjoy the feeling because the Wilfs just gave the fans this extension instead of a superbowl.... enjoy
Unfortunately I can somewhat agree with this. IMO, the Wilfs have always prioritized filling the stadium seats ($) over chasing a true championship ready team. We got lucky in 2017 NFC playoff run with Diggs catch/Keenum. This has nothing to do with JJ and his talents- he is a generational player and I 100% think he makes our team better, but I agree that $35M/yr is potentially better spent on pieces like IOL, defense, etc. I hope I eat my words and we are great, but I can understand the sentiment that we continue to chase headlines and store merch more than a ring. I believe we have a shot in 2-4 years tho. We can do this
It's starting to gnaw on me, too. The "top 5, top 10, top 15, top who GAF" mantras and stat trains of irrelevance he brings up, are beginning to outweigh his substantial wit.
Wrong. He got yards cuz that's all the blonde KOC does is pass pass pass deep balls. MN gonna be called pick 6 city. Defenses wants to come to MN to play ball.
I had a dream last night that the game was on the line and KOC needed a running play but he only had pass plays to a overpaid receiver in his playbook so they lost the game.
I kind of agree, though am hopeful with the McCarthy addition at QB. I think the Wilfs tried to "do the right thing" in resigning JJ, since I bet they tune into the fan base, who pays them. Our infrastructures on the oline and dlines are uneven, and probably not enough to push or prevent in the interior - and they'll collapse. Geez, Phil.....talking about the disrespect from Vegas ? Just quit it. Records are why we play the games....when do the Vikings excuse trains stop re turnover, quarterbacks, etc. Do not the other 31 teams deal with the same challenges ? We aren't sniffing the playoffs, and will be fighting to stay out of the basement in the North. Let's take off the glasses.
@@Samtember14 Exactly, you win in the trenches, especially in January, and that's where this team is weakest, and now it's going to be that much harder to fix paying a WR $140m. Blue collar players help you fill the trophy case, flashy skill position players help you fill seats, so we know where the Vikings priorities are, keep that dynasty of mediocrity rolling.
I had a dream last night that the vikings needed offensive and defensive players but they couldnt get them because they were ovepaying some receiver too much money.
They just totally neutered the new qb and the coaches play calling. They will be extremely pressured to give the ball to jefferson to make sure he gets the stats to justify this contract.... regardless of the games situation . This is not a recipe to win anything meaningful.
Jefferson 2,000 yards? 118 yards per game, EVERY game? Judd, what are you smoking? Game #2, right out of the gate, Jefferson will face one of the BEST corners in the NFL in Charvarius Ward . Jefferson will have to face top corners in Green Bay (twice) , Chicago (twice) and Cleveland. Jefferson also gets THE best corner in the league against the Jets. 2,000 yards? Keep dreaming Judd. His best season was 2022 at 1809 yards with Kirk tossing him the ball. Last time they played the Giants, week one's opponent, JJ had 7 catches for 47 yards. He then gets Ward in back to back games. Good luck. McCarthy will start the season? Declan thinks the Vikes are gonna toss a ROOKIE QB out there against that SF defense, with THAT offensive line? LMAO. Vikes will make the playoffs? Vegas doesn't see it that way. Vegas is rarely wrong. Darnold will play great? That would be a first. Couldn't unseat Mr Irrelevant in SF. Wasn't great in NY or in Carolina, won't have one of the top tight ends for probably half the season. But he'll be awesome, just wait. The purple Kool Aid is flowing freely at Skor North. Wondering what Jefferson will be like if top corners keep shutting him down as in previous years, now that he has all that cash? We'll find out early and often this season.
@@StillKeepOnLosing you must be reaching the bottom of your Minnesota sports hate to slam someone for expressing good grammar. You’re losing your focus, Bud.
@@Razorbacks1 That's funny because calling out grammar is bottom of the barrel shenanigans when you're not smsrt enough to come up with anything. Yall vikes fans are sad. Just sad.
It has been a slow process, but this is now the Kwesi/KOC vision (almost) in place. Next year, their idea of what it takes to win a championship will be fully implemented--QBOTF starting and loads of cap space to fill the remaining gaps. For this year, it will be fun to watch without expectations. I suspect they will be better than people think because it looks like the defense got a lot better.
You as well as anyone should know, a first round pick is never a guarantee Judd. The problem was leveraging this and next years draft picks hoping for a Kirk comp pick and using free agency next year.
Judd always brings up how hard this system is to learn for JJ or Kirk. Remember that this is Darnolds first year in this system too.. JJ may pick it up faster.
I agree with Mackey. In addition to the 34 turnovers last year, 9 out of our 10 losses were by 7 points or less
IC this as a rebuilding year and 2025 as the big improvement. If we win this year, it's a bonus in my book.
My Hot take: The Vikings will make the play-offs this season. The defence looks massively improved, especially with the depth. Losing Hunter sucks, but adding Turner along with their free agent splashes should help the pass rush in a huge way, with threats from either side.
In offence, I think Darnold has a strong bounce back season, especially with McCarthy waiting in the wings breathing down his necks. He does that with JJ, Addison, the returning Hockenson and an improved running game, then the Vikes are in business. Nobody will back them to do much this season, but I think they could shock everyone and go something like 10-7 and make the dance.
Aaron Jones needs to be utilized way more than any RB we have had under KOC. He needs to be running and catching passes a lot in this offense. Which means less touches even for JJ. I think we missed a huge opportunity in not going after Blake Corrum. So now Jones needs to be that guy for him.
Hot take Jefferson would have taken less money if Kirk stayed, the 28 million offered last was almost agreed to because of Kirk being around. I think they told JJ then Kirk would only be there another year so he didn't accept the offer last year.
Not only did they win 7 games last year, but they also did it with a 1st place schedule
Mullens having 3+ turnovers in every start tanked our turnovers also vikings just fumbling on a regular basis in the 1st half of the year mostly hock & Mattison
If any other team in the north would be floating around the idea of sam darnold making as a starter and making the playoffs you guys would be laughing your asses off
Yeah I mean when have the vikings in recent history ever made the playoffs with a backup tier qb? Surely they've never done this in the last 10 years
@@ryanlivdahl5567 that doesn't invalidate what I said 😂
@cesarmeza5331 you go back to 2017 and could say that (and more) about Keenum. As long as a team has pieces and decent qb play its any given sunday
We aren't making the playoffs with darnold lol
They are out of touch
From Iowa just moved to New York. Will wear the purple proud here
Do you like Vikings because it’s the closest team to Iowa?
Sorry to hear that
why on earth would you choose to move to NY? Iowa is a much better place to be at the moment
Goodness sakes, it's Koolaid season on Purple Daily.
I need you guys to give your take on what Mike Florio has been saying over the last couple weeks about the Jefferson situation. According to him "the Vikings media has had their thumbs up their asses" for sleeping on the Nabers rumors....
Come on guys, it's the Vikings not the 1980s USA hockey team
Once JJ stats Sam will be the backup. I love the fact that they took a flyer on Jaren Hall, but he’s not gonna be a playable backup where Darnold would be.
Jefferson will have 2000 yards this season because the qb will be instructed to throw the ball to him every other play in order to get enough stats to justify that contract.
Oh we're going to do the Randy Ratio thing again? That smells like a disaster. Defenses are going to be all over that and whoever plays QB is going to throw 20+ INT's.
The randy ratio thing is a wreck They cant justify the cash if other players have better stats .
It makes the offensive coordinator useless because its just about getting jefferson touches of the ball
Honestly, if JJ had 2000 yards, it would show a highly imbalanced offense. It would probably be from a lot of garbage time yards or just total lack of running game or both.
? He nearly got 2000 a few years back and none of your assumptions occurred.
None of us know if JJ will be ready to start week 1 but I hope at the very least he gets a handful of starts.
Write That Hot Take Down! Judd comes out with the TD throw and 2pt conversion attempt of Hot Takes. A Take So Hot It's Good Enough For 2 Segments.
Boo
@@MINNESOTA_PTSDcry loser go watch soccer
No Dex they are going to bring him along slowly!😡
who fights the microphone better... Dex or Sirles?
Write this down: JJ McCarthy will in some way surprise KOC this year. Aka, he pulls an audible or decision deep out of the playbook. I think JJ is pretty smart- and I think sometime this season, KoC will give him a bit of independence, and he’ll be (a good) surprised.
You are high if you think the Vikings have better personnel than the Packers or Lions Dec. There is a difference between being a homer and being realistic
Phil at least knows what a hot take is
The fact JJ can not get steps with the 1's in highly concerning
Who thought they could pay an aged QB off a torn Achilles and Jets?? 😂
Easy decision #18 is now highest paid non QB. Deservedly so indeed.
What the Hell is going on there ?
Did you guys find a mountain of Fentanyl that you guys are trying to power through ??😊😊😊
Clearly all these predictions are going to age like spoiled milk. 😊😊 SKOL
Vikings are top heavy. As a roster Bears are more young, talented and cheap. Bears last three drafts have them in great position. Picking up quality starters from all rounds(unlike Vikings). Bears aquired quality free agents as well.
What is even funnier is that you are always crowing about the upcoming cap space, but Bears actually have more cap space for 2025 than MN ...😂
“Chicago is where quarterbacks go to die.” - Jim McMahon, 2021 😂
Sam Darnold 2024 superbowl MVP, McCarthy traded next offseason. 🔥🔥
I will say this. McCarthy doesn’t have a wife and two kids at home to distract him. So he might have the opportunity to get this playbook down faster than Kirk who obviously had his attention split.
Let's get fired up boys
Great show!! Fired me up!
JJ is more mature right now at 21, than tRump has EVER been.
FJB!!!! and u also
@@77racing71 Thank you for providing a great example of the education gap we face
Genuinely don't understand how you are watching this and thinking about trump lol
JJ McCarthy starting week 1 is not the current plan. His performance so far is good but not great yet.
You know better Judd , he got that contract from the Cowboys game and Schneider. Don't act foolish now
If the roster is so spectacular, what will you say about O’Connell when they win 6/7 games? The excuse train will roll through PD. 🤡
Judd out here throwing bombs on the 1st play of the season ??
Richy Rich >> Scrooge McDuck
LETS GO BOYS!!!!
Ugh I can't take it anymore with all this Kirk "Ironman" status! I mean how can you get hurt when you don't ever do anything on a consistent basis?! There's plenty of QB's out there making plays left and right extending plays, rushing & getting the ball off with pressure right in their face and sure they might get nicked up once and awhile but they WIN!!! They make the playoffs, they win playoff games, they win Super Bowls, they take risks etc. and succeed or are at least a real contender the Vikings under Kirk were NEVER a contender for anything.
Ok... so declan made up for it with his second take
Nick mullens is just Jameis Winston with an average arm
I love the positive vibes but Vegas is usually right. But let’s hope not.
My God guys, get off your knees, he's a 21 year old rookie and the 5th pick
Is it just me or are these more so predictions then they are hot takes?
If he beats him out then he starts pretty simple
Judd said Jackass! 😂😂
If u go back and look at shot gun formation …u will see JJ has his right foot deeper than left.. which many have reported was not the case.. Do your homework!!!
Dec stop drinking the kool-aid, not gonnahappen
Let's gooooo skol 9
Hot take lions packers and bears aint special. Not scared of there roster and windows are closed.
To those rejoicing this jefferson signing you'd better enjoy the feeling because the Wilfs just gave the fans this extension instead of a superbowl.... enjoy
Oh man all those Super Bowl trophies we’ve won previously mean nothing now ):
And they should give you the outstanding BS trophy!!!!
Unfortunately I can somewhat agree with this. IMO, the Wilfs have always prioritized filling the stadium seats ($) over chasing a true championship ready team. We got lucky in 2017 NFC playoff run with Diggs catch/Keenum.
This has nothing to do with JJ and his talents- he is a generational player and I 100% think he makes our team better, but I agree that $35M/yr is potentially better spent on pieces like IOL, defense, etc.
I hope I eat my words and we are great, but I can understand the sentiment that we continue to chase headlines and store merch more than a ring.
I believe we have a shot in 2-4 years tho. We can do this
JJ is vital for McCarthys growth. Run along now son, let the grown folks talk business.
Overpaid
This is the year you guys going to get the 1st overall pick being underdogs in ALL 17 games.... Only to get a weaksauce draft class. Lmfao. RIP
SKOL !
Mackey is sooooooo sickening to listen to.. Cant tolerate that guy
Where are all those Kurt lovers saying JJ was going to leave if kurt left?
It's starting to gnaw on me, too. The "top 5, top 10, top 15, top who GAF" mantras and stat trains of irrelevance he brings up, are beginning to outweigh his substantial wit.
he is a cornball that's for sure a marketer's wet dream
STOP CITING MULLINS' YARDAGE! he had so many yards because he threw so may interceptions- Jameis Winston style
Wrong. He got yards cuz that's all the blonde KOC does is pass pass pass deep balls. MN gonna be called pick 6 city. Defenses wants to come to MN to play ball.
INT yards don’t count.
He had a lot of yards because we were behind/losing most of those games. You throw a lot more when you're trailing, plus KOC just loves to throw.
Every Minnesota sports season ends with apparel on massive discounts 😂
I had a dream last night that the game was on the line and KOC needed a running play but he only had pass plays to a overpaid receiver in his playbook so they lost the game.
This is kinda funny 🧐😲😂
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I agree with dex... JJ week one
Hot take: The Vikings will not be a contender while JJettas is on his new contract
I kind of agree, though am hopeful with the McCarthy addition at QB. I think the Wilfs tried to "do the right thing" in resigning JJ, since I bet they tune into the fan base, who pays them. Our infrastructures on the oline and dlines are uneven, and probably not enough to push or prevent in the interior - and they'll collapse. Geez, Phil.....talking about the disrespect from Vegas ? Just quit it. Records are why we play the games....when do the Vikings excuse trains stop re turnover, quarterbacks, etc. Do not the other 31 teams deal with the same challenges ? We aren't sniffing the playoffs, and will be fighting to stay out of the basement in the North. Let's take off the glasses.
@@dw2367 every SB contender shows you need dominant trenches. Hopefully we can get that still
@@Samtember14 Exactly, you win in the trenches, especially in January, and that's where this team is weakest, and now it's going to be that much harder to fix paying a WR $140m. Blue collar players help you fill the trophy case, flashy skill position players help you fill seats, so we know where the Vikings priorities are, keep that dynasty of mediocrity rolling.
I had a dream last night that the vikings needed offensive and defensive players but they couldnt get them because they were ovepaying some receiver too much money.
They just totally neutered the new qb and the coaches play calling.
They will be extremely pressured to give the ball to jefferson to make sure he gets the stats to justify this contract.... regardless of the games situation .
This is not a recipe to win anything meaningful.
Jefferson 2,000 yards? 118 yards per game, EVERY game? Judd, what are you smoking?
Game #2, right out of the gate, Jefferson will face one of the BEST corners in the NFL in Charvarius Ward .
Jefferson will have to face top corners in Green Bay (twice) , Chicago (twice) and Cleveland.
Jefferson also gets THE best corner in the league against the Jets.
2,000 yards? Keep dreaming Judd.
His best season was 2022 at 1809 yards with Kirk tossing him the ball. Last time they played the Giants, week one's opponent, JJ had 7 catches for 47 yards.
He then gets Ward in back to back games. Good luck.
McCarthy will start the season? Declan thinks the Vikes are gonna toss a ROOKIE QB out there against that SF defense, with THAT offensive line? LMAO.
Vikes will make the playoffs? Vegas doesn't see it that way. Vegas is rarely wrong.
Darnold will play great? That would be a first. Couldn't unseat Mr Irrelevant in SF. Wasn't great in NY or in Carolina, won't have one of the top tight ends for probably half the season. But he'll be awesome, just wait.
The purple Kool Aid is flowing freely at Skor North.
Wondering what Jefferson will be like if top corners keep shutting him down as in previous years, now that he has all that cash? We'll find out early and often this season.
MN going to be called the city of pick 6'es. Defenses gonna love coming to MN to pad there defensive stats.
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@@Trav4 😂😂 🤫🤫
@@Trav4 Is this an essay? You're not very smart are you. Got so triggered with nothing to say but to correct an auto spell... Get good son.
@@StillKeepOnLosing you must be reaching the bottom of your Minnesota sports hate to slam someone for expressing good grammar. You’re losing your focus, Bud.
@@Razorbacks1 That's funny because calling out grammar is bottom of the barrel shenanigans when you're not smsrt enough to come up with anything. Yall vikes fans are sad. Just sad.
Everyone who wants Write That Down replaced with something like Thor Thursday plz like.