I had a stove similar many years ago . but recently bought a good second hand 111 . my pump was assembled totally incorrectly was sucking not pumping. this videa has been so valuable in getting mine working.
Thx bro. My NRV isn't working on my No111. Stove still works but I miss the extra pressure it provides. Thank you for describing how to make the tool as well. Complete rebuild very soon.
@S F Yep. The NRVs should be inspected/serviced annually or more frequently if you leave your stove unused stashed with fuel in it. A non-working NRV can fail spectacularly by allowing fuel to gush out of the pump lid opening around the pump shaft while the burner has flame. Not a good combination. Especially if using white gas. BD
Thanks! Most likely the cleaning needle rack is set too deeply into the teeth on the spindle. Try the stove without the cleaning needle rack in place. If it shuts off okay without it, then you just need to reset it correctly. 3-5 "clicks" into the burner is the usual range, depending on the particular parts you have. May take a couple of tries until you get the knack. If the stove won't shut off without the cleaning needle, then you likely have debris/dirt keeping the point of the spindle from seating, OR, the point on the spindle is likely marred from over-tightening. The tapered spindle point should look like a tapered cone if in good condition. It should not have a ring or step. BD
Thanks! I'm crunching video even now. It's a slow process for me. I'm trying to do a brain dump of all the tricks and tips before the ol' brain freezes up once and for all!😮 I'll try my best to make it sooner than later. 👍 BD
@Dave Sherry The stoves came from the factory with model badging in the form of either embossing stamped in the metal lid of the case or adhesive stickers, usually applied on the lower right exterior of the lid of the stove box. The embossing stays around. The stickers can be removed, worn, painted over, or burnt off over time. If your stove case appears unbadged or the sticker is unreadable... This video shows the 111B model. If your burner looks like the one in the video (two feed tubes up to the burner head), then your stove is a 111B, a white gas only stove. If you have a similar shaped burner but it has four tubes up to the burner head, then yours is a 111 (no letter) model, which can use white gas or kerosene. If you have a silent burner equipped stove, then it is either a 111T (most common and most likely) or a 111C, both multi-fuel stoves. If you still have questions, just send me a photo or two and I can id it for you. bd@berniedawg.com It’s free! BD
Great video just bought a Optimus 111B off of eBay when the weather gets better I'll use your method of lighting the stove, But in the mean time I was wondering can I use your silent burner in place of the original that come with it?
@KB3UKTKB3ULN I answered that question completely and educationally nine years ago here at my website: www.berniedawg.com/silent-cap-for-111b/ (And I also linked you there in a reply to your earlier comment when you asked the same question at one of my other videos.) Check it out. You could learn a lot about stoves that way. 👍😎 BD
Hey Bernie. I recently bought a Primus marked 111b. Do you have any info about it? Why was it marked Primus- a sticker on the right corner just like Optimus does but its primus. Thanks!!!
@razbiton173 Optimus bought Primus, Svea and Radius as the liquid-fueled stove markets declined in the 1960's. Optimus used old Primus parts and stickers on some of their own stoves as a dual-branding measure. I have a Optimus 8R, for instance, that is branded Primus with a sticker probably much like yours. Optimus made your stove, but branded it Primus with old stock Primus stickers. While it should not be viewed as "fact" but merely recollections and opinions, you can find out more about this period in history in this discussion thread here: classiccampstoves.com/threads/the-primus-trading-company-period-of-optimus-history.24548/ BD
@razbiton173 Hey! Are you sure it's a 111B and not a 111 (no B)? The 111B only has two tubes going up into the burner head, the other has four. Check and see! BD
@@BernieDawgCinema hey ! Thanks for the reply. It has only 2 tubes. I can send you pictures of it for inspection! Its rather a weird one. Could not really find info about it
I had a stove similar many years ago . but recently bought a good second hand 111 . my pump was assembled totally incorrectly was sucking not pumping. this videa has been so valuable in getting mine working.
@ADEN1961 They are great stoves and can last "forever" if cared for a bit. Congrats on yours! Glad the video was helpful. BD
Thx bro. My NRV isn't working on my No111. Stove still works but I miss the extra pressure it provides. Thank you for describing how to make the tool as well. Complete rebuild very soon.
@S F Yep. The NRVs should be inspected/serviced annually or more frequently if you leave your stove unused stashed with fuel in it. A non-working NRV can fail spectacularly by allowing fuel to gush out of the pump lid opening around the pump shaft while the burner has flame. Not a good combination. Especially if using white gas. BD
Excelente instruccion de reparacion,,,Feliz Navidad
Hi - excellent demonstration - can you share again the dimensions of the NRV tool, because I'm not sure I got it correct
@Ottar Johan Simonsen 5mm wide x 5mm deep. Length would be the diameter of the bar you are using to make your wrench. BD
Excellent video thanks, mine wont turn off, suspect the adjuster and cleaning needle need to be inspected. John.
Thanks! Most likely the cleaning needle rack is set too deeply into the teeth on the spindle. Try the stove without the cleaning needle rack in place. If it shuts off okay without it, then you just need to reset it correctly. 3-5 "clicks" into the burner is the usual range, depending on the particular parts you have. May take a couple of tries until you get the knack. If the stove won't shut off without the cleaning needle, then you likely have debris/dirt keeping the point of the spindle from seating, OR, the point on the spindle is likely marred from over-tightening. The tapered spindle point should look like a tapered cone if in good condition. It should not have a ring or step. BD
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Aw, shucks. Thanks! BD
Thanks for sharing great demonstration of the break down of the stove. Looking forward to the next video. Have a good weekend BD.
Thanks! I'm crunching video even now. It's a slow process for me. I'm trying to do a brain dump of all the tricks and tips before the ol' brain freezes up once and for all!😮 I'll try my best to make it sooner than later. 👍 BD
Greta video and I am using parts 1 through 3 to get my unit reburbed. But how can I tell what model 111 I have?
@Dave Sherry The stoves came from the factory with model badging in the form of either embossing stamped in the metal lid of the case or adhesive stickers, usually applied on the lower right exterior of the lid of the stove box. The embossing stays around. The stickers can be removed, worn, painted over, or burnt off over time. If your stove case appears unbadged or the sticker is unreadable...
This video shows the 111B model. If your burner looks like the one in the video (two feed tubes up to the burner head), then your stove is a 111B, a white gas only stove. If you have a similar shaped burner but it has four tubes up to the burner head, then yours is a 111 (no letter) model, which can use white gas or kerosene. If you have a silent burner equipped stove, then it is either a 111T (most common and most likely) or a 111C, both multi-fuel stoves.
If you still have questions, just send me a photo or two and I can id it for you. bd@berniedawg.com It’s free! BD
Great video just bought a Optimus 111B off of eBay when the weather gets better I'll use your method of lighting the stove, But in the mean time I was wondering can I use your silent burner in place of the original that come with it?
@KB3UKTKB3ULN I answered that question completely and educationally nine years ago here at my website:
www.berniedawg.com/silent-cap-for-111b/
(And I also linked you there in a reply to your earlier comment when you asked the same question at one of my other videos.) Check it out. You could learn a lot about stoves that way. 👍😎 BD
@@BernieDawgCinema Thank you very much, you do amazing work 😊
.excellent tutorial as always!
Thanks! I appreciate your support! 😎BD
Hey Bernie.
I recently bought a Primus marked 111b.
Do you have any info about it? Why was it marked Primus- a sticker on the right corner just like Optimus does but its primus. Thanks!!!
@razbiton173 Optimus bought Primus, Svea and Radius as the liquid-fueled stove markets declined in the 1960's. Optimus used old Primus parts and stickers on some of their own stoves as a dual-branding measure. I have a Optimus 8R, for instance, that is branded Primus with a sticker probably much like yours. Optimus made your stove, but branded it Primus with old stock Primus stickers. While it should not be viewed as "fact" but merely recollections and opinions, you can find out more about this period in history in this discussion thread here: classiccampstoves.com/threads/the-primus-trading-company-period-of-optimus-history.24548/ BD
@razbiton173 Hey! Are you sure it's a 111B and not a 111 (no B)? The 111B only has two tubes going up into the burner head, the other has four. Check and see! BD
@@BernieDawgCinema hey ! Thanks for the reply.
It has only 2 tubes. I can send you pictures of it for inspection! Its rather a weird one. Could not really find info about it
bd@berniedawg.com
@@BernieDawgCinema i sent it to you right now. Cant wait for your reply!
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