Golf Ball Dimples Aerodynamics - How do they work and are they relevant for your design?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @l0v3MyB3ar
    @l0v3MyB3ar 3 года назад +13

    Short and very clear; thank you.

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @davidcmoffatt
    @davidcmoffatt 3 года назад +4

    Very good. Short and straight to the point. Also, nice anticipation of the question that I had which was why don't we use dimples on cars or planes.

  • @Seekerofknowledges
    @Seekerofknowledges 9 месяцев назад

    Dear Wouter,
    Thank you for saving me time and energy. This is an idea I firmly believed that covering the entire exterior of the car with dimples should work. Back to the drawing board.
    Thank you wholeheartedly

    • @Sadlander2
      @Sadlander2 7 месяцев назад

      Back in the day, Mythbusters covered an entire car with dimples and they were surprised that it worked. They saved quite a bit of fuel with the dimples. 2 years ago, Bugatti did something similar to improve the aerodynamics of a specific model of theirs. It works!

  • @veyrondarren1064
    @veyrondarren1064 2 года назад +3

    Very informative and helpful. Thanks

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  2 года назад

      Thank you, I'm glad the video was helpful!

  • @debashisray4265
    @debashisray4265 8 месяцев назад +1

    Explained really well!!

  • @shrutiverma5615
    @shrutiverma5615 2 года назад +1

    very well explained!!! god bless you

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  2 года назад +1

      Thank you Shruti! Have a wonderful day

  • @henriklarsson7835
    @henriklarsson7835 7 месяцев назад

    Simple and clear - thanks a lot

  • @sgtForgione
    @sgtForgione 3 года назад +1

    Wow. Very succinct. Thank you!

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад

      Thank you very much Mario!

  • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
    @anidiotinaracingcar4874 Год назад +3

    Do you have a video about VGs? I'm mostly thinking about the ones we see on the back of the roof on some hatchbacks: aren't they pretty much equivalent to dimples?

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  Год назад

      We do have a video on VGs:
      ruclips.net/video/MC6woj6tsQY/видео.html
      Yes, both dimples and VGs serve to energize the boundary layer to delay separation of the boundary layer.

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 3 года назад +2

    The plastic undertrays that run along each side of my Volkswagen Golf's (lol) underbody are dimpled. These trays lead to a separation area when they get to the 1/3d of the car where the fuel tank, exhaust, and suspension parts reside.

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад +1

      Hi Michael, that's true! We saw it when we ran an article on the Volkswagen Golf 5 / 8:
      airshaper.com/blog/volkswagen-golf-aerodynamics-analysis-and-improvement
      They did remove those dimples on later models, so we're not sure if it really had a positive effect in terms of aerodynamics.

    • @michaelw6277
      @michaelw6277 3 года назад +1

      @@AirShaper oh wow, great article. It’s always good to see any new analysis of the mk5/6 generation Golfs.

  • @arhu74
    @arhu74 3 года назад +1

    I wanted to know if dimples on my cycling clothing would make any sense and remembered having heard a bit about golf balls having dimples to reduce drag. Anyway not only did I learn about golf balls but also my original question I really wanted answered...

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад

      Ah I'm glad you found your answer! And you may also like this video, which covers the application of such techniques to cycling clothing :)
      airshaper.com/videos/aerodynamic-clothing/A0Gx-lBzSFA

  • @mejestic124
    @mejestic124 3 года назад +1

    You've got a new subscriber 👍

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад

      Superb, thanks Mejestic!

  • @straightforward4775
    @straightforward4775 Год назад +1

    wow my man thank you!!!

  • @sepg5084
    @sepg5084 3 года назад +2

    Would putting dimples on a car's rear diffuser to allow it to have a slightly more aggressive angle before flow separation occurs? How about dimples to the underside of a car's rear wing for the same purpose? How large/deep should the dimples be?

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад +4

      Hi Sep,
      good one!
      Dimples would need to be applied upstream of any separation location, so you'd have to apply them just ahead of the diffuser. Most diffusers have a sharp angle between the flat underfloor and diffuser plane, and I would guess there it's less effective to make the flow turbulent. But if you have a smooth transition between underfloor and diffuser plane, then it could make more sense.
      I've heard of stories where people have applied rough paint on certain areas of wings to delay or prevent stall. So perhaps there is some potential to it (although slotted wings also do a fantastic job and you may want to consider the drag penalty as well).
      In terms of size, a very simple first guess could be to have the dimples as deep as the thickness of the boundary layer at that point (but that's just a rough guess)!

  • @bawehjerox5030
    @bawehjerox5030 Год назад

    Hey, do you if they use this in Formula 1 ? Curious about this because they use so many differents tricks there.

  • @dwptechduco
    @dwptechduco 5 месяцев назад

    Would the same effect apply to a smaller projectile? .685" (17.4mm) in size being launched at 400 fps? Dimples verses smooth sphere?

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  5 месяцев назад

      That would depend on the Reynolds number!

    • @dwptechduco
      @dwptechduco 5 месяцев назад

      @@AirShaperHow would one test an object of that size to get that number?

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  5 месяцев назад

      @@dwptechduco ruclips.net/video/sV8l8xd4MEQ/видео.html

  • @BStott
    @BStott 5 месяцев назад

    But, the OP didn't take into account the Friction of the boundary layer over an aerodynamic car. THIS is where dimples would benefit. Dimples create a minute turbulent layer at the vehicle surface and lower the direct laminar air flow friction. Thus, less drag even on an aerodynamic vehicle. Less friction is less drag and more mpg???

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  5 месяцев назад

      Do you have any references indicating turbulent boundary layers have a lower drag? Usually it is the opposite, and companies like AIRBUS try hard to maintain a laminar flow to reduce the friction drag. See our interview videos with AIRBUS.

  • @KhanAndMrPointyEars
    @KhanAndMrPointyEars 3 года назад

    would this work on a cylinder shaped building?

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад +1

      In general, it can work on cylinders too. But it depends on the Reynolds number: you need to check for your building and for your wind speed if you're in the right Reynolds regime, i.e. that you are not already in the drag dip for example (then dimples will not have much effect)

  • @bsk6635
    @bsk6635 3 года назад

    dimple 있는 figure 는 laminar boundary layer 가 아니고 turbulent boundary layer 라고 correct 해야.

    • @AirShaper
      @AirShaper  3 года назад

      I'm not sure what the special characters in your post mean, but indeed, we added a correction in the comments!

  • @kalpeshwani8520
    @kalpeshwani8520 2 года назад

    For an inch+ circle , few mm dents hardly matters....
    Main purpose , multiple hard hit, less contact ,more life.
    Inner hard core , outerwear semihard layer....

  • @Daniel-qy5hj
    @Daniel-qy5hj 7 месяцев назад

    apruebame raquel