Just got a lift xd. Took it home and set it up and thought maybe i screwed up, since my draw length is 31 1/2 ish. I said the hell with it, put mod E on it and checked it on the draw board. Saw nothing alarming.Shot about 60 arrows through it with 0 issues. Not sure if its the bigger cams but bow definitely feels smoother and quieter than then my lift 33 I am very happy.
Yes, i have no problems using mod e to get it to 31.5. i believe they dont recommend using them primarily because the mods wont be at the advertised specs, but i could care less if mod says 70# and im getting 66 or something. I just know the bows shoots smooth and awesome. So, no issues.
32” here. Been using a V3X 33 with modified strings. I was waiting on a new Atlas with all the current features or as it now seems - a Lift XD. 🎉🥳👌. Only had to wait for 2025.
commenting just to feed the algorithm no complaints here
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Interesting to argue “over priced” when the Mathews sits in the middle at cost…and a +2k Hoyt isn’t over priced?! I shot Hoyts, and actually shot for Hoyt in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Loved them! Hoyt lost my business when I bought the Traverse, and even though I keep trying Hoyts, I find myself choosing a Mathews. I have the luxury of buying whatever bow I want every year, even bought a BowTech SS34 as a backup a couple years ago (which was also a fine bow). The Lift is a game changer. If all you are going to do is hate, that’s your loss…
Brace high at full draw, holding waight and handle width are 3 parameters that affects bow forgiveness (torquing). There are other parameters like axel to axel, weight.... but this doesnt affect torquing. Largeer brace high at full draw and higher holding weight makes bow harder to torque, wide and thick (blocky square) handle makes it easier to torque. Brace hight (one that you are measuring) directly ads to brace hight at full draw so it does help forgivness but hurts bow speed. Reflex-deflex tell su (more-less) how the cams will muve during limb compression. If you have paralel or past parallel limbs cams will muve mostly in vertical direction which will not contribute to brace hight at full draw and it will not contribute forgivness but the bow will create less hand shock (recoil), probably less noise and wibration. Longer and less paralel limbs will aneble cams to travel more in horisontal direction which will increase brace hight at full draw, increase forgivness (torquing ) but bow will jump forward durin shooting and probably make more noise. Also i don't agree with mesuring axel to axel and calling it honestly. Yo can easley adjust it buy adding or removing twists on string and cables. It is the same as draw weight. If you have 70 bls bow but it measure 71+ you can call it dishonesty but it is manufacturing inperfection. Bow speed, bow fisical (not draw) weight and brace hight (after adjusting axel to axel and adjust cam timing) shud be parameters that affect dishonesty.
I think you should give them the 13 for speed. They are specifically selling this bow as a 32-33 inch draw bow. It was designed for those people and gives them the opportunity to have a bow that fits them. I think you should give the bow the opportunity to have a higher number but maybe with an asterisk stating why. The rs is for short draw and only goes to 29 inch yet it has ridiculous speed. My point is, if the manufacturer goes out of their way to provide bows for specific draw lengths I dont think they shouldnt be penalized for doing so.
Another Mathews review… I can’t wait for the comment section to fill out. Gonna be exciting! Got my bowl of popcorn and a nice cold beverage ready, can’t wait lol should be a good read.
Would you get a Long draw guy to shoot the bow for the speed difference. Also how would the bow setup would differ between the short, long, and regular draw bow.
"What a Mathews shill" - a Hoyt shooter that pays more for less features. I am very excited to finally have an upgrade to my Atlas. What arrow are you shooting to be at 355 grains at 32"? My Rip TKO's (250 spine) are ~475 gr with stock insert and 100 gr field point.
if I had to guess, it would be some variation of a rip xv. to get something long enough to shoot out of that bow at 32in its probably a 350 spine(6.4gpi)
Don’t think you are an idiot, awesome review. But I do think it’s unfair to take points of for speed when a bow is Within 5 fps of advertised speed and isn’t ment to shoot 30” I think your original 13 was the right call. Either way can’t wait to shoot this bow as I have a 33-34 inch draw length.
So, as a potential new bow owner, and yes, I want to buy a bow that I'll have for a few years. Why is the cam technology so amazing if your local shop does this on your bow out the door?
Because most avid archers prefer to do their own tuning and maintain their own equipment. The new tech just makes it easier to do so. That being said, you can easily get numerous years out of any new bow you buy. I just upgraded to a Lift X 33 from a bowtech prodigy that i bought brand new 10 years ago. Still a nice bow, but i want an upgrade. So i put a new string on and set it up to give to my dad.
It has been said that the honey badger doesn’t give a shit. However, I feel it’s also safe to say that Josh Jones doesn’t give a shit either. As a matter of fact, “MFJJ doesn’t give a shit” sounds like a good tag line 🤔 Haha great review just like all the others - doesn’t matter the manufacturer. Appreciate Josh’s candid honesty.
Josh, you gotta stop whining about the haters, it only encourages them. The fact that every video you claim to not care shows you actually do care. You get 99% positive comments but you focus on the 1% negative ones. You’re doing a great job but maybe you need a break
My only complaint I've ever had with mathews is the price off the accessories bows are great but they do all this "innovative" stuff then price gouge the stuff no reason stabilizers should or quivers should be 200+ outside of that I like mathews
Excellent Trump dance and always great content, I just realized I been watching you about 3 yrs and I make my own arrows and can completely tune mine,my boys and my daughters bows when I get my press, thank you sir for the knowledge, God bless, and God bless America
Free Speech: Absolutely fair to shit on PSE Mach 33 for failure to ship product. That said I'm looking forward to seeing the testing of PSE Full Draw Stability because I'm not sure it can be fully appreciated by a technically sound shooter
I don’t like the way the lift shoots I’ve tried to give Mathew’s the benefit of the doubt. My whole family shoots Mathew’s and I just don’t like the way they feel at all
Why is there so much focus on the haters or the insignificant negative dopes. Just ignore them which simply takes away the very thing they are craving. I love listening and watching MFJJ but too much focus on the dirt bags. They DON’T have the right to be disrespectful or demeaning, not at all.
Fanboy review again. Strangely, how Mathews always get top reviews. People can claim it's honest but the better the review the more top end bows you sell. Mathews have always been overpriced. And overrated. The grip has sucked for decades.
![Mathew’s LIFT [RS] FULL TUNE & BUILD!!](/img/1.gif)
Thankyou for testing this model. As a long draw guy, there are VERY FEW reviews of bows in this DL
Yes, us LD guys appreciate this. Haven’t shot it yet but likely my next bow to replace my Hoyt and Bowtch
As a 28”’draw guy I’ve been waiting to see this review for zero reasons other than that thing is just a beast of a bow. Thanks Josh
Same.it’s like a “how fast could my arrows go if I was born a foot taller” video
Long time watcher first time commenter here, being a lanky individual thank you for the review!
People still hate on Josh calling him a fanboy. When he usually shoot a bow tech so how's that
Just got a lift xd. Took it home and set it up and thought maybe i screwed up, since my draw length is 31 1/2 ish. I said the hell with it, put mod E on it and checked it on the draw board. Saw nothing alarming.Shot about 60 arrows through it with 0 issues. Not sure if its the bigger cams but bow definitely feels smoother and quieter than then my lift 33
I am very happy.
Im 31.5 also. I was wondering if you could get 31.5 with the LD. I'm glad to hear that you can!
Yes, i have no problems using mod e to get it to 31.5. i believe they dont recommend using them primarily because the mods wont be at the advertised specs, but i could care less if mod says 70# and im getting 66 or something. I just know the bows shoots smooth and awesome. So, no issues.
32” here. Been using a V3X 33 with modified strings. I was waiting on a new Atlas with all the current features or as it now seems - a Lift XD. 🎉🥳👌. Only had to wait for 2025.
I bought an Atlas last year 😢
commenting just to feed the algorithm no complaints here
Interesting to argue “over priced” when the Mathews sits in the middle at cost…and a +2k Hoyt isn’t over priced?!
I shot Hoyts, and actually shot for Hoyt in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Loved them! Hoyt lost my business when I bought the Traverse, and even though I keep trying Hoyts, I find myself choosing a Mathews. I have the luxury of buying whatever bow I want every year, even bought a BowTech SS34 as a backup a couple years ago (which was also a fine bow). The Lift is a game changer. If all you are going to do is hate, that’s your loss…
You can’t compare a carbon bow to an aluminum bow. That’s extremely disingenuous
@ really? Even when they weigh the same or in some cases the carbon bows weigh more, with similar speeds?! I beg to differ!
New bow season is my favorite
Brace high at full draw, holding waight and handle width are 3 parameters that affects bow forgiveness (torquing).
There are other parameters like axel to axel, weight.... but this doesnt affect torquing.
Largeer brace high at full draw and higher holding weight makes bow harder to torque, wide and thick (blocky square) handle makes it easier to torque.
Brace hight (one that you are measuring) directly ads to brace hight at full draw so it does help forgivness but hurts bow speed.
Reflex-deflex tell su (more-less) how the cams will muve during limb compression.
If you have paralel or past parallel limbs cams will muve mostly in vertical direction which will not contribute to brace hight at full draw and it will not contribute forgivness but the bow will create less hand shock (recoil), probably less noise and wibration.
Longer and less paralel limbs will aneble cams to travel more in horisontal direction which will increase brace hight at full draw, increase forgivness (torquing ) but bow will jump forward durin shooting and probably make more noise.
Also i don't agree with mesuring axel to axel and calling it honestly. Yo can easley adjust it buy adding or removing twists on string and cables.
It is the same as draw weight. If you have 70 bls bow but it measure 71+ you can call it dishonesty but it is manufacturing inperfection.
Bow speed, bow fisical (not draw) weight and brace hight (after adjusting axel to axel and adjust cam timing) shud be parameters that affect dishonesty.
You always do a good job Josh
Could you make a video on the new Axcel driver, I'm looking and it doesnt look like it has a true 2nd axis adjustment, wanna hear your thought
Pretty sweet thst a whole new offering was made for long draw guys. I thought of tim gillingham when i heard about this.
Love the video thank you 👍👍👍👍👍
I think you should give them the 13 for speed. They are specifically selling this bow as a 32-33 inch draw bow. It was designed for those people and gives them the opportunity to have a bow that fits them. I think you should give the bow the opportunity to have a higher number but maybe with an asterisk stating why. The rs is for short draw and only goes to 29 inch yet it has ridiculous speed. My point is, if the manufacturer goes out of their way to provide bows for specific draw lengths I dont think they shouldnt be penalized for doing so.
Great review 🏹👍
Another Mathews review… I can’t wait for the comment section to fill out. Gonna be exciting! Got my bowl of popcorn and a nice cold beverage ready, can’t wait lol should be a good read.
Lol
hope gillingham had them make the brace height big enough to fit the hamske overdraw bracket
Skiing at the beginning of a Mathews video.....figures.
Would you get a Long draw guy to shoot the bow for the speed difference. Also how would the bow setup would differ between the short, long, and regular draw bow.
Just a good review.
"What a Mathews shill" - a Hoyt shooter that pays more for less features.
I am very excited to finally have an upgrade to my Atlas. What arrow are you shooting to be at 355 grains at 32"? My Rip TKO's (250 spine) are ~475 gr with stock insert and 100 gr field point.
if I had to guess, it would be some variation of a rip xv. to get something long enough to shoot out of that bow at 32in its probably a 350 spine(6.4gpi)
Nice DJT dance!
Best part of the video!
Don’t think you are an idiot, awesome review. But I do think it’s unfair to take points of for speed when a bow is Within 5 fps of advertised speed and isn’t ment to shoot 30” I think your original 13 was the right call.
Either way can’t wait to shoot this bow as I have a 33-34 inch draw length.
I mean technically they advertise their bows at the ibo speed not ata speed. does that make any difference?
Good job
So is there any way the lift xd could be shot at 31"draw?? Even though it says 32"
Would love to see a sequel 31 st2 review
Or a 33 st
Thanks MFJJ!
Will you review the title 34 pls?
My drawing length is 29 inches can you shoot arrows out of a 33 inch bow
These reviews are objective based facts. Facts are facts how can you say that's favortism? Do you think he's purposely lying on the measurements?
🤣 whole country happy for that dance in the Whitehouse.
So, as a potential new bow owner, and yes, I want to buy a bow that I'll have for a few years. Why is the cam technology so amazing if your local shop does this on your bow out the door?
Because most avid archers prefer to do their own tuning and maintain their own equipment. The new tech just makes it easier to do so.
That being said, you can easily get numerous years out of any new bow you buy. I just upgraded to a Lift X 33 from a bowtech prodigy that i bought brand new 10 years ago. Still a nice bow, but i want an upgrade. So i put a new string on and set it up to give to my dad.
They dont do that for you out the door.. atleast mine didnt. They didnt even get my proper draw length. I figured it out on my own at home
It has been said that the honey badger doesn’t give a shit. However, I feel it’s also safe to say that Josh Jones doesn’t give a shit either. As a matter of fact, “MFJJ doesn’t give a shit” sounds like a good tag line 🤔 Haha great review just like all the others - doesn’t matter the manufacturer. Appreciate Josh’s candid honesty.
This is one of many this what a hooter shooter or similar shooting machine could be used for, ( 33" drawl test ) haha
33" draw shooting 79 lbs and a 450 grain arrow was 319 fps for me
If a bow doesn’t measure the correct axle to axle doesn’t mean the bow is out of spec?
Josh, you gotta stop whining about the haters, it only encourages them. The fact that every video you claim to not care shows you actually do care. You get 99% positive comments but you focus on the 1% negative ones. You’re doing a great job but maybe you need a break
I dislike the hump
At the end of the draw cycle
4:38 lol
Who needs 650 grain arrows when you have a 32"+ DL!
Try to build an Easton axis under 600 with those draw lengths @ .260 spine
lol that’s why you need at least 650. Suck up all that extra energy
Left a MFJJ video to come to this video 😂
Same 😂
Review felt rushed so MFJJ could take his pants off…
My only complaint I've ever had with mathews is the price off the accessories bows are great but they do all this "innovative" stuff then price gouge the stuff no reason stabilizers should or quivers should be 200+ outside of that I like mathews
Excellent Trump dance and always great content, I just realized I been watching you about 3 yrs and I make my own arrows and can completely tune mine,my boys and my daughters bows when I get my press, thank you sir for the knowledge, God bless, and God bless America
Free Speech: Absolutely fair to shit on PSE Mach 33 for failure to ship product. That said I'm looking forward to seeing the testing of PSE Full Draw Stability because I'm not sure it can be fully appreciated by a technically sound shooter
Gotta love 10 consecutive videos where mfjj creams his pants over mathews.
Can still hear the pop of the bag on the DB test is the meter catching that?
I don’t like the way the lift shoots I’ve tried to give Mathew’s the benefit of the doubt. My whole family shoots Mathew’s and I just don’t like the way they feel at all
Trump dance? If it is love it!
With a draw length of 30" I feel a bit like a knuckle -dragging ape, so 32" is seriously long arms. 😬
Guys he's not sponsored by mathews... But he's dam well trying to be
lord help me
FBJJ
I appreciate you, MF
Why is there so much focus on the haters or the insignificant negative dopes. Just ignore them which simply takes away the very thing they are craving. I love listening and watching MFJJ but too much focus on the dirt bags. They DON’T have the right to be disrespectful or demeaning, not at all.
Fanboy review again. Strangely, how Mathews always get top reviews. People can claim it's honest but the better the review the more top end bows you sell. Mathews have always been overpriced. And overrated. The grip has sucked for decades.
Karen eat a Snickers😂
Seems a bit disingenuous lol
Cope