Hamza Tzortzis | Love, mercy, and ‘going soft’ | Blood Brothers #9
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2019
- In this heated episode of the Blood Brothers podcast, Hamza Tzortzis and Dilly Hussain thrash out some unresolved issues between each other. #BloodBrothersPodcast #HamzaTzortzis #IERA
Hamza explains how and why he has "transformed" over the years from the once fiery debater to a more grounded Muslim apologist.
Topics of discussion also include Hamza's avoidance of discussing sociopolitical issues, IERA's new dawah ethos focused around love, mercy and compassion, as well as personal and long lasting differences between him and Dilly.
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Jazakallah khayran!
CALL OF DUTY FOR THE UMMAH
Speak to your local imam regarding lining heels straight for salah and standing shoulder to shoulder... for the sake of the ummah!
My request is please speak to your local imam. Tell him to announce before the prayer in English language or another language the people understand. Please line up straight by the heels and stand shoulder to shoulder.
There is no point saying it in Arabic. Because the majority of people do not understand Arabic. The Prophet peace be upon Him spoke in a language people understand.
We are taught to line up straight by the HEELS, to stand shoulder to shoulder.
Nu’man ibn Bashir (May Allah be pleased with Him) reported, “I heard the Messenger of God (peace be upon Him) say: Straighten the rows, or Allah will create DISSENSION amongst you”. Sahih Muslim
It is agreed that at least 1 in 5 members of the congregational prayer do NOT line up straight by the HEELS.
There are scholars who have said not lining up straight in the salah is a MAJOR SIN because it leads to disunity.
If we do not put pressure on our leaders things will never change
CALL OF DUTY FOR THE UMMAH
Speak to your local imam to announce this in English etc before the prayer for the sake of the ummah!
Can you traduce it to French please?
@5Pillars Any idea about the progress of The divine reality in URDU.
I love the back and forth between you two. I've benefited a lot from this. Thank you.
Jazakallah khayran!
@@5Pillars you treated him like a brother that you love and haven't seen in a while. Loved the banter!
Amazing discussion! Loved the early Paxman-like questioning. TabarakAllah.
the part where ya'll appreciated each other around the hour mark. Dont worry, i'm not crying. someone is just cutting onions over here.
could feel the fire bro :D really good discussion
saw it until the end, may Allah help our brothers in turkey as well and make them get rid of their false idol.
Ameen!
BaarakAllahu Feek Akhi Dilly, Allah bless you! A lot of us don't realize it's not easy to ask difficult questions. And we ask Allah to bless IERA and Ustadh Hamza and their work. Ameen.
Ameen!
Peace and Allah's mercy be upon all of you,
Dilly Hussain, can you PLEASE ask Hamza Tzortzis, if he can translate his book (The Divine Reality) to Dutch for the people here in Belgium and the Netherlands?
And by the way amazing podcast. Ya Allah, the Most High, make us sincere and grant us Your Bounty.
Brilliant! Fast becoming one of my fave podcasts!
Jazakallah khayran!
You two brothers actually balance the pH of each other.....btw I loved how you uncovered different side of hamza brother. May ALLAH bless you
Masha Allah! A very beautiful and needed episode ✨ Jazakumullahu khair Brother Hamza & Dilly. May Allah SWT bless you and your families ameen.
Barakallahu feek brother Ayan and ameen to your dua!
Love it, very confrontational but massively useful.
Oh man you roasted each other so eloquently and took your L’s like men
It's a shame some on this thread couldn't see the mutual brotherhood between the guest and host! :(
5Pillars mashallah I saw the brotherhood, nothing wrong with a little roast between brothers 👍🏽 btw how does Dilly know Punjabi?
@@boxer1639 born and raised with Pakistanis/Mirpuris.
MashaAllah Brother Hamza is being real and honest I guess. May Allah guide us all into straight path Ameen
Get Abdullah al-Andalusi. That'd be really interesting
Soon insha'Allah - he is lined up to come on :)
Really enjoyed this podcast. Keep up the good work 👍
Blood Brothers, what distinguishes you from other podcasts with the same guests is that you're asking the difficult and uncomfortable questions that is also often on the minds of your viewers.
I'm sure you know this already but you should know the viewers also recognise and *appreciate* this. Well done.
Jazakallah khayran for your kind words of appreciation and support brother Shaheed. Please keep the Blood Brothers team and the guests in your duas.
This was brilliant! Hamza was allowed to talk!
2 of my fav brothers. Gems of the uummah. One of the best podcast.
Allahumma barik lakum
Keep them both in your duas!
Jazakumullahu Khair... May Allah continue to preserve both of you, Mashallah
Ameen!
MashaAllah
It's finally out! :)
Hi there,
There are a lot of amazing books behind them. Anyone know where the location is? Would love to have a read of them.
Amazing Raw podcast.. after all the trashing Dilly did, productive and brillant conversations from 40 mins loved the points discussed on various issues...
Jazakallah khayran!
Very good discussion and good questions. Br Hamza defended his position well.
It is foolish to compare an organization to the comprehensiveness and balance of a Prophet's character. Organizations are individuals coming together for a specific set of objectives. There's no way any organisation can do everything within the Islamic paradigm comprehensively. Such polemics are used frequently within muslims to further sectarian agendas and discredit other Muslim organizations.
As long as an organisation is conscious of its own paradigm, where its borders lie and what lies outside it, and is appreciative of the work of those organisations working outside their paradigm, they're all a beautiful piece in the mosaic of Islamic community.
You should get Ustādh Saffaruk Chowdhury or Abdullah al-Andalusi on the podcast! Both are intriguing figures, mā shā Allāh.
Great podcast masha’Allah. I hope you invite brother mansur next time inshaallah.
Hamza Tzortzis Innate disposition is clear about All things Dilly mentioned.Seriously Podcast were Profound and it touched various contemporary issues which is going on world wide and how should Muslims react! May Allah Bless You All
Ameen!
Two heavy weights MashAllah.
May Allah reward you both for your service to his deen.
Ameen!
Ameen 😁
Thanks bro for asking the hard questions but plz give the guests enough chance to respond clearly.
Noted and conveyed to the host!
This is so interesting to watch in retrospect with Sapience Institute being in full swing. You can hear the seeds of it in Hamza’s words.
Please get Paul Williams and Hamza (Darren Myatt) from Speakers Corner. 2 knowledgeable and passionate reverts that have many fans like myself all over the world. Also, of Asadullah Ali from American ever comes 2 the UK, get him on as well. JazakAllah Khair.
Masha Allah that was really nice enjoyed and learned from it, love u both may Allah accept all ur efforts and put barakah in all good things that u do ameen
both childish,dumb,brainless and cowardly boys who are owned,controlled,shackled and lied to by the hoax of islam
Jazakallah khayran and ameen to your dua.
@@pollykerr7092 calm down Polly, take a breather.
@@5Pillars maybe he doesn't have any better things to do (not even a constructive critisizm at least) just ignore him, you guys are doing a good job 👍
Mashallah awesome podcast :)
Hamza's ancestors must be from Sparta!
Mashallah love both brothers for the sake of Allah. Bangerrrr
Ustadh Hamza is an absolute tank lol 39 yrs old and still beating brothers in their mid twenties in physical contests
Hamza is 39 and Dilly is 31
Enjoyed the podcast, jazakallahukhair
Barakallahu feek!
48:30 Oh Beauty! Allahumma Barik
55:00 naam💥
A fiery discussion between two bold, fiery brothers- below some points covered in the discussion, forgive me if the terms I have used are too loaded or misrepresentative of either interlocutor:-
- Ghazali vs Ibn Taymiyah illustrates the shallow dichomotisation/tribalisation often associated with in Islamic circles of knowledge and practice
- the complexity/difficulty/trial of ikhlaas (sincerity) as a preacher, public Muslim intellectual
- Dilly put pressure on Hamza and his affiliate organisations to address socio-political issues, going beyond theology, spirituality and philosophy
- Islamic moral philosophy/maslaha vs secular liberalism
- to give dawah and encourage maslaha using Surah Taha 44- Musa encouraged to speak to Firawn (initially) with a soft/gentle tone
- How liberalism/libertarianism ultimately seeks the unlimited freedom only found in God, Allah
- the psychological necessity of putting things in the God basket e.g. Christchurch, Uyghur genocide and other very complex issues- not ignoring them or excusing them in any shape or form- but foundationally excepting the complexity and painful nature of these situations
- unclouding, de-nebulising the fitrah in the modern world- uncovering the truth from within- the most direct way to enlightenment
- addressing apostasy in the modern world 1) Muslim community as lagging on so many levels- micro and macro- which psychologically, spiritually, socially and materially makes many Muslims feel disadvantaged and pushes them away from the Islamic centre 2) science, modernism, Darwinism and other intellectual shubuhaat 3) kibr, ego and desires (think Surah Maryam- 'But there came after them successors who neglected prayer and pursued desires; so they are going to meet evil')
- Surah Yusuf as a lesson in humility and the 'tarbiyah of life' via trials for sayidinna Yusuf's brothers
- discussing the cultural-religious divide in Turkey characterised by movements like Kemalism
- 'the Muslim is the mirror of his brother' (so mirror him as best as you can!)
- the longing and need for the love and ma'rifatu of Allah (signpost to his fantastic book The Divine Reality)
I skipped to the end for the arm wrestle haha
Spoilers.. It wasn't at the end.
Tut tut!
Same xd 😂
What a great podcast!
Even though I enjoyed some of the joking and roasting, I gotta say, Br. Dilly that was too much.
Hamza was talking seriously and passionately and you kept interrupting. This happened many times.
Still.. Jazakom Allahu khayran brothers for this beneficial episode.
👌👌great. Allahumma barik!
*_Brilliant Conversation_*
Incredible!
1:01:30 Taking break and adding timestamp. Next time need to listen after this.
Did you get back to this time stamp :)
@@5Pillars Yes. I finished it. I listen while traveling to office and back home.
Was a good one. JazakAllah Khair.
Sound is quality is topz. JZK
Jazakallah
Christchurch gave me depression for weeks upon weeks. It was the first time it, it me so hard that I had to hide the whole thing away from me.
What are your epiphanies Hamza? Share all ur knowledge pleasse
The way hamza flexes his triceps every so often 😂
What a intro.......amazing SubhanAllah
Lool mA that arm wrestle.. 💯
The arm wrestle was great 👍
This vid should be renamed to 'Dilly grilling Hamza for 1hr 16mins' 😂
Dilly got his fair share of grilling as well!
@@5Pillars Haha true..Hamza had some good counter points against Dilly
Dilly was right to say Christian dawah. The Muslims almost feel they need to please the crowd. The Christians have lost their religion because of this. So much that the western people think jesus was from the west.
I'm glad Dilly bought this up.
May Allaah guide us all and protect us from the evil around us and within us.
Ameen!
BarakAllah feek
Jazakallah khayran for your continued support and feedback brother Salman.
great podcast
Great podcast
Salaam
Bro you was too harsh with the bro.
You needed to pick him up on your shoulders
Wsalaam, Hamza was harsh wasn't he!
@@5Pillars no he wasnt actually, you keep provoking him, come here let me slap you 👋
Yellow journalist - nice one Hamza !
That was a hadooken! lol
Best podcast
9:25🤣
9:30 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤭Hamza's laugh He's probs Gonna beat him up after the podcast🤭Oh Dilly
Bro if they leave islam let them just accept it. Best solution is to accept their decision. Mercy compassion love is the way forward
not really, you can't give people hope saying that what they are doing is acceptable when it is the worst thing they could ever do :D The best solution is to understand their problem and help them solve it, not ignore them or let them be and give them hope they are good that way!
23:12
Can you traduce it to French please?
I wrote on one of your first pot casts id rather not see brother Hamza as i saw im him arrogance and playing to the crowd. Alhamdulillah i forgive the brother for the sake of Allah. Hamza has matured, InshaAllah he reads this post.
You should apologise to Hamza for that questions of Harshness. You know what it was and it was unfair and uncalled for and put him on the spot.
Wo wo wo brother what do you mean Asian subcontinent people do not teach Islam in they're home ? Ask any Bangladeshi or Pakistani or Indonesians people ! What they know from there's family its almost done for his/her basic . Even their most social environment base on islamic principal.
36:56 😂😂😂😂😂
Silly thank goodness you’ve recognised br hamza and discussed the same thing!! Switch it up. We want different info
*Dilly
The silly auto-correct! LOL
It was fun to watch Hamza being grilled by Dilly.
Seemed at times Hamza enjoyed being grilled!
@@5Pillars but he wasn't comfortable with the the questions regarding his silence over the issues of the ummah. I was really looking forward to hearing more about the reasons why he's changed his position relating certain aspects of Islam if you know what I mean.
Still, I enjoyed this episode of blood brothers and benefited from it. JazakAllah for your efforts akhee!
😘
3:19 😂😂😂
Remove the music. Its haraam.
"56:56 SorryP but let me memorize that reply pls daymnhattan💥"
Hamza tzortzis v rationality rules would be amazing if it happened
Please don't interrupt guests when they are trying to make a point. Example: 8:17
Mashallah the man's forearm is ripped! True Greek man and not Pakistani lol 1:16:21
M25 scenic route loooool
Dilly tryna be oversmart ...
Allow hamza to breathe in atleast lol
Hamza is a fast breather!
God save the Queen in this life and the next
1:01:18 Guess who? Ali Dawah. Most probably.
why are they acting this way to each other?
Because they have a love-hate brotherhood :)
Dilly has absolutely no chill .. 😩🤧😂😂💀
9:20 LoL
Brother Dilly is too funny
Dilly Hussain comes across as a pretentious, arrogant journalist - incessantly belittling Hamza even when serious topics are discussed. You could have honestly switched him with Piers Morgan with a very similar outcome, which is bizarre given that he's a Muslim and that matters pertaining to the Deen were being discussed. He's used to the self-serving one-upmanship modus operandi of political pundits and wants to bring this into the da'wah.
Instead of contributing meaningfully to issues that are of great importance, he contends himself with cheap gimmicks and vacuous, rapid-fired oneliners. Part of me thinks he probably wouldn't have been able to engage with Hamza meaningfully. What a shame!
They seem to get along well enough and Hamza Tzortzis didn't seem offended at all with the type and style of questioning.
@@5Pillars that was due to Hamza’s patience and elegance, Dilly seems like compensating for something by being overly agitated, and straight out rude for sake of being confrontational. I am glad that he is working on his ego.
They are friends... Didn't you see the bloody arm wrestle at the beginning? And the comment at the end 1:16:10
I miss akhy’s input
He was definitely missed :(
This would be great content if you cut out the music. Haram is Haram.
Liked this podcast but but Dilly stop the cutting off, I know you seem like good friends Allahuma barik Ameen but it’s not nice to see/hear
Maybe an interesting spin to also invite none Muslims or have more than one person on the opposite end.
Non-Muslim guests will be featuring in future episodes.
Is hamza tsortsis an apologist. I wouldn't say so
Huge numbers of black and 'white' I.e Arab , Somali, Turkish Muslims in the UK. Always referencing South-Asian Muslims is unbalanced and not representive
Muslims from the Indian subcontinent (India, Pakistan and Bangladesh) make up 68% (1,830,600) of the Muslim population in the UK, making them the largest ethnic group. ruclips.net/video/mQlM4w15s2E/видео.html
Brother Dilly, pls let brother Hamza finish his comments on your earlier question and then fire away your next question. It was very annoying multiple times that you won’t let him finish.
Who is the Turkish person?
Not Turks, just a Greek guy and a Bangal Sileti.
dear hamza,
I am saying this as a turk:
you were right in what you said about mustafa kemal, his ideology was to fight against islam, so it was right to say that he was a shaytan. the only mistake you made was to believe that erdogan and his party has anything in common with islam... maybe that was the reason you thought you can talk about this topic in this way. actually there is no free speech in turkey and there never be will.
I really appreciate you brother, but really it was a mistake at that day to talk positive about erdogan and his party...
erdogan is a person who said just about one year ago "you cannot rule with the islamic law today, the islamic rules are not actual anymore and we have to actualize and change them". you have to admit that this is kufr (like a lot of other statements he made during the last years).
everything you said about kemalizm in turkey was right, your only mistake was to talk positive about erdogans politics and that is the only thing you should regret in my opinion.
dear brothers in islam,
keep in mind that erdogan puts a lot of alims (for example 'Alparslan Kuytul') in jail only because of the fact they critcize him for wrong actions he did. so as a turk for me it is really sad to see that out of turkey some muslims think that his party has anything in common with islam... believe me it is not.
they only use islamic elements to win the elections but more and more people in turkey realize that it is all fake behaviour.
dear hamza, keep on your good work, me myself I will always try to follow your work ☺️
but as an advice from your turkish brother, please avoid going to turkey, really everything could happen, probably they would put you in jail...
unfortunately most turcs even fall into shirk in my opinion because they love mustafa kemal more than anything else. When I think about the hadith of the prophet pbuh that we should love him the most even more than our parents then I can really say that most turcs replaced this hadith with mustafa kemal.
it is a topic we could write and talk about hours but I try to stop here... may Allah give you much baraka in your work.
found it brother. Thumbs up
Brother where does Erdoğan say this? Can you provide a link?
@@haruna5063 I think you speak turkish, right? try this link: ruclips.net/video/uR5DA7i3aIs/видео.html it is kufr what he is saying here. he has the same way of a so called modern understanding of a changed islam like Fethullah gülen and his followers for example also have. An islam without the law that came 1400 or 1500 years ago like erdogan says in his own words. Like he says an actualized and changed islam with the laws they created by their own. actually this is what mustafa kemal also did, creating an own law without the islamic rules. I think that this is the reason why his party members and erdogan himself were in a really deep relationship with the Fethullah gülen movement over so many years (remember that erdogan and his pary members were saying that Fethullah is the greatest alim in many of their speeches and that they appreciate him the most). they are brothers in their own sect. the reason why they are not in common anymore is because of other political topics regarding to the power structure within the state. Keep in mind that this link I sent you is only one small example... there are so many statements where he is in kufr for example when he says that every state should be secular and not rule with the islamic law, he did that for example in egypt and tunisia some years ago where he adviced them to stay secular. really, if you make some researches you will find a lot of statements like this.
This feels more like a police interrogation than an interview. The brother was too aggressive this made me cringe. It was almost like he was attacking Hamza Tzortzis.
That's the joke.
Hamza and Dilly have a love-hate brotherhood/friendship, that was very much apparent in the podcast...
@@5Pillars seriously? It came off as a little bit of funny banter. Can you explain the source of the hate part?
@@5Pillars nevermind, I continued watching the rest of the video and realized they really do have alot to disagree on. So far Dilly brings up some pretty valid criticism. But Hamza also has very valid responses. So I kinda agree with both of them. But I really did not like that Hamza failed to realize that half a million Syrian Muslim people have been massacred by the Assad regime.
russian 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Isn't hamza married to a Pakistani?
Most Pakistani looking Greek. 😂😂
Xy zeee...... you're not an American... lol 😂
Thank you!