It’s very important to filter out as much smoke as possible and replace it with fresh air excited to watch glad to see the new office is really being put to the test
I've just updated the description of this video with some additional notes. There is no question that this system would be overkill for most home applications. For one, working within the constraints of a residential home would be challenging, especially when it comes to creating the necessary ductwork. I am actually working on building a home (spec build), and I think that I am going to integrate a strong, commercial air exhaust system into my study to create as much negative pressure as possible and, essentially, pull fresh air from the rest of the house while venting the smoke. I'll then pair that with a good consumer molecular carbon filter, like the IQ Air MultiGas (amzn.to/3fQwdqT). What I like about this over the RabbitAir is that the unit uses actual carbon canisters. This means that you are getting MORE CARBON. My problem with the RabbitAir and other consumer air filters is that they contain almost no carbon... no carbon means no odor filtration. And when it comes to filtering odors, there is no question that simply replacing smoke with fresh air is your best bet. Most consumer filters don't exchange the air enough to make much of a difference when it comes to odor. This is why exchanging with fresh air is so important.
@@kirbyallison Wow thanks for the reply I’m sure we would all love to see the system that you put in your home I’m currently also trying to find a solution for ventilation in my own smoking lounge in my house that I am currently building
Love the Halfwheel reviews and the video series on humidors is great. This was a great topic and the attention to detail on the complications of filtrations was outstanding. Thanks Kirby.
Brilliant system you've designed there. I love the overkill factor of it. Allows for plenty of headroom in terms of capability and I can't help but agree with you that it will result in less headache in the long run as the expectation for consumer grade products would be nowhere near that of commercial grade equipment standards.
First the pinstripe suit is just awesome! The question is what was the point of the incredibly loud classical music while showing the ceiling? It seems somewhat ridiculous to talk about how quiet the thing pulls air up, show the ceiling and then in post production adding music that drowns out everything.
The beauty of this system is that the filters and carbon canisters do not need to be replaced for two years. My old system requires the carbon to be switched out almost every 6-9 months at a cost of $600. This is a little more, but less often. Also one of the benefits of the larger, commercial unit.
@@kirbyallison I work in the air filtration industry. Nothing against Camfil (although I’m team synthetic not glass) I’d definitely not purchase spares from them. Their products are good but they are VERY expensive and same spec and performance products are widely available from other manufacturers that will fit your system. It’s a very impressive setup I’ll give you that, nice to see some proper equipment!
My home office is the same size, and it connects to our master bedroom with a separating door. In your experience, does your rabbit air do the trick? I'm wondering if I need to remove the interior door and completely seal off my office from the home (I have a secondary entrance directly from my garage). Any input is appreciated.
Kirby certainly knows how to dress like a multi-millionaire. Props! 💯. I really, need to invest in at least one stunning suit for special occasions. AC/DC tee-shirts and cargo shorts are my daily attire. But it feels good to dress up occasionally.
nice you can do that. My wife makes me smokes outside. it gets cold in the winter. i envy you soo much. we do have a green house. sometime use it when it rains.
Man I'm just out here sitting on a log in the bush next to my house. hahaha I'd love an inside area. That said, the weather and lack of light pollution were I live makes looking up at the stars particularly nice with a cigar in hand.
Wow you actually have a suit I like for more than just how it’s put together- it’s a bolder fashion statement than you usually make Wide lapel and candy stripe- really nice choice The only thing I wouldn’t have done is the waist coat, I think it muddies the silhouette
Very informative and helpful. Where did the make-up air come from? If you exhaust 2000 cfm, then that air has to come from somewhere. What climate is your office building in, too? Curious, as I am in the process of designing a cigar room in my house, and am having to bring in make-up air at 100F, cool it down to 55F then reheat it so I don't overcool the space. That is a special unit, but you didn't have one of those. You used a ductless mini-split, which I also am looking at, but I don't need both. I'd love to read your response. Thanks.
It would have perhaps been better to have return of purified air delivered at floor level, thus supporting a draft for warm smoke air to rise up to ceiling extraction registers. But it was very quiet Kirby, I suspect quieter than the split-AC unit operating at 75% capacity?
We certainly considered this. Unfortunately, the duct work would have been too complicated for our studio. But if I ever installed this in a house (and I would LOVE to one day), I would definitely return the air at the floor! That would certainly be ideal.
This is special acoustic tile that helps baffle the noise from the warehouse. We also have 6” of insulation on top of it to help further sound proof the studio.
Kirby - Curious to know why you chose to go the filtration route opposed to the exhaust route? I was recently hanging with Gary Kolsaire at The Tobacco Shop in Ridgewood, NJ who has a Davidoff Lounge. His recommendations were more on the exhaust route for their lounge. My friends are always concerned about preserving the air conditioning, my route has just been for exhaust and running the AC heavier during smoke sessions. But, we've got a new studio space that's 75,000 cu. ft. so I'm looking for new approaches. Also, where did you place the duct vents to the CamCleaner in relation to your smoking position? And lastly, was there a purpose behind the cigar selections during the Hot Box Session? I noticed only you were smoking a Habana.
If you have a ton of air to pull from, the exhaust route is definitely the easiest route. But you have to have a very large volume of air to pull from. In the case of the studio, we have to keep the door closed during filming, so exhaust wouldn’t work for us. That said, I did install an exhaust fan to help bring in fresh air after smoking. However, it also vents all of our beautiful A/C.
@@kirbyallison The venting of the AC is always the difficult part of exhausting - and here on the East Coast, it also means venting the heat during the winter! Thanks for making the video showing us the system and taking the moment to reply!
Hey Kirby! Any way you could help a guy out? I ordered from Montefortuna for the very first time because you suggested them on multiple occasions. When I received my package, one of my boxes was riddled with mold! When I tried reaching out, they will only give me a $10 credit! Could you use your magic and help me out somehow? I love your cigar videos and have been binging them the last few weeks!
When the Camfil Camclean filter is running, we really don't need negative air pressure because (1) the room is very well-sealed at the door and (2) the room has an independent, self-contained HVAC system via the mini-split. The air exhaust system is really meant to exchange fresh air overnight. The only limitation of this particular design is that the HVAC does not provide a source for fresh air. This is solved by the air exhaust system.
One word… Rabbitair. We have 2 that cover 2,000sq.ft yet in a room that is only 750sq.ft. Plus windows open. We get zero smell issues or impurities in the air
I can appreciate good air filtration units but I sure am glad I don't smoke. Cigar smoking was one of the things that cut my grandfather's life short. I will take the longer life and spend the 20k having more fun with my family and friends.
I was just about to write (as a swede) Contact Camfil That would be strange of me to write since you both bought one for $20000 and that this video is a year old haha Thanks for the videos
Congratulations! However, the sheer expense of such a system is surely beyond reasonable to most. appreciate that is highly a contentious assumption....but valid regardless
If a privately owned business had such an effective utility (even restaurants) then why should the law not allow them to have a smoking establishment? (Personally I don't think it's any of the government's business at all).
A 4 inch inline fan and 4 inch carbon filter (the ones used for grow tents) is all you need. Or one of those cheap 50 dollar ozone generators from amazon. Both of those = Odor free
Luckily for the rest of us, the marijuana industry has perfected the art of smell removal on an industrial scale. For less than a grand, you can get a carbon filter the size of your car, along with a ducted fan and ducting, that can purify enough air to run a coal fired power plant in your living room. Duct Muffler - 10" $96.74 Can-Lite Filter 10in 1500CFM $274.20 Can-Lite Pre-Filter 10 in $19.06 Dust Shroom 10in $172.62 Silver Insulated Duct 10in x 25ft $50.60 Can-Fan Max Fan Pro Series 10 in - 1057 CFM $308.08
weed smoke and cigar/cigarette smoke are completely different bro. if u smoke a cigarette ur hands will be stained with the smell for a day. weed doesnt even stick to ur hands
@@kirbyallison heh, I can tell you are not familiar with indoor grow operations. Trust me, even one tiny plant is enough to stink up an entire house. The system I laid out could probably give your 20,000 system a run for its money. The can-lite filters are massive activated carbon filters that can handle a large grow room
Or just put in an HRV/ERV. Dumps the bad air outside and brings in fresh air from outside and recovers 85% of the energy. Almost no maintenance compared to your system.
What a man does to his body is his prerogative, but if we can entertain a thought for a moment: if it takes $20k to filter out the air in the entire room, imagine what it will cost to filter out your lungs.
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It’s very important to filter out as much smoke as possible and replace it with fresh air excited to watch glad to see the new office is really being put to the test
no shit sherlock
@@MT-fu8rz thanks for the reply have a good day :)
I've just updated the description of this video with some additional notes. There is no question that this system would be overkill for most home applications. For one, working within the constraints of a residential home would be challenging, especially when it comes to creating the necessary ductwork.
I am actually working on building a home (spec build), and I think that I am going to integrate a strong, commercial air exhaust system into my study to create as much negative pressure as possible and, essentially, pull fresh air from the rest of the house while venting the smoke. I'll then pair that with a good consumer molecular carbon filter, like the IQ Air MultiGas (amzn.to/3fQwdqT). What I like about this over the RabbitAir is that the unit uses actual carbon canisters. This means that you are getting MORE CARBON. My problem with the RabbitAir and other consumer air filters is that they contain almost no carbon... no carbon means no odor filtration.
And when it comes to filtering odors, there is no question that simply replacing smoke with fresh air is your best bet. Most consumer filters don't exchange the air enough to make much of a difference when it comes to odor. This is why exchanging with fresh air is so important.
@@kirbyallison Wow thanks for the reply I’m sure we would all love to see the system that you put in your home I’m currently also trying to find a solution for ventilation in my own smoking lounge in my house that I am currently building
This is quite frankly the best video on this topic thats ever been done! Thank you for the education on this topic.
I can't even begin to think about smoking my cigar without a $20,000USD air filtration system
An alternative use of that money that solves the same problem: "here's 20 grand, stop complaining about the smell"
That causes even more problems. If you do give out 20k they'll want it every year.
Love the Halfwheel reviews and the video series on humidors is great. This was a great topic and the attention to detail on the complications of filtrations was outstanding. Thanks Kirby.
Nice work. It's good to see people working with the finest.
Your channel is such a breath of fresh air (no pun intended.) Such quality content.
So cool Kirby! I am very envious!
Brilliant system you've designed there. I love the overkill factor of it. Allows for plenty of headroom in terms of capability and I can't help but agree with you that it will result in less headache in the long run as the expectation for consumer grade products would be nowhere near that of commercial grade equipment standards.
Very cool. The Halfwheel guys are great!
It would be a pleasure to witness how Kirby does a proper "real" HotBox in his office.
I just picture eddie sahakian saying that exact comment to him.
Great information for anyone looking for a filtration system. Keep up the great work, its a joy to watch.
This is such a low key flex Kirby lmao!!!
First the pinstripe suit is just awesome! The question is what was the point of the incredibly loud classical music while showing the ceiling? It seems somewhat ridiculous to talk about how quiet the thing pulls air up, show the ceiling and then in post production adding music that drowns out everything.
13:31 this part
You can tell Charlie was enjoying that cigar 😂
So air changes per hour are to air filtering, as stitches per inch are to shoes
Awesome now I know what I need for my in house cigar lounge 💯👌🏾
How often do you have to replace the filters, and how much does it cost each time you replace them?
The beauty of this system is that the filters and carbon canisters do not need to be replaced for two years. My old system requires the carbon to be switched out almost every 6-9 months at a cost of $600. This is a little more, but less often. Also one of the benefits of the larger, commercial unit.
@@kirbyallison Nice. Thanks for the info.
@@kirbyallison I work in the air filtration industry. Nothing against Camfil (although I’m team synthetic not glass) I’d definitely not purchase spares from them. Their products are good but they are VERY expensive and same spec and performance products are widely available from other manufacturers that will fit your system. It’s a very impressive setup I’ll give you that, nice to see some proper equipment!
So what is your professional recommendation?@@ollie7777
The fragrance of cigar smoke is the best part
Me: having to think twice before ordering extra canes sauce
Kirby:
I just found your channel, very classy.
Thank you for this amazing content.
Made me fell improve my outfit I wear in my channel.
Great video. I'm looking to making my Man Cave into a smoke room.
Surely you deserve it (asked he, rhetorically) ?? 😄
Great video. Going to something similar fitted to my home office!
If there is any way for you to duct it in, it makes all the difference in the world.
Essentially same principle for a grow room.
Great video. I can, however, hear the system running while watching this with headphones.
My dawg really just had a hotbox session!! Kirby you a real ☝🏼 🥂
Love your channel, but the price of this is unaffordable for most. Any less expensive options?
That’s legend status!!
Excellent set up..my rabbit air 3 is over kill for my 180 square foot room. 🤣🤣🤣. In all seriesnes the rabbit air 3 is great..
My home office is the same size, and it connects to our master bedroom with a separating door. In your experience, does your rabbit air do the trick? I'm wondering if I need to remove the interior door and completely seal off my office from the home (I have a secondary entrance directly from my garage). Any input is appreciated.
Kirby certainly knows how to dress like a multi-millionaire. Props! 💯. I really, need to invest in at least one stunning suit for special occasions. AC/DC tee-shirts and cargo shorts are my daily attire. But it feels good to dress up occasionally.
Although Cigars smell good that thick smoke is just annoying and this seems helpful!
Yeah. Any proper smoking room should filter out as much visible smoke as possible.
nice you can do that. My wife makes me smokes outside. it gets cold in the winter. i envy you soo much. we do have a green house. sometime use it when it rains.
Man I'm just out here sitting on a log in the bush next to my house. hahaha I'd love an inside area. That said, the weather and lack of light pollution were I live makes looking up at the stars particularly nice with a cigar in hand.
Will there be a video of your conversation with the HalfWheel gents?
Your USA accent is turning British sounds good.
Wow you actually have a suit I like for more than just how it’s put together- it’s a bolder fashion statement than you usually make
Wide lapel and candy stripe- really nice choice
The only thing I wouldn’t have done is the waist coat, I think it muddies the silhouette
Awesome system
Great clip! Thanks!
What about the drapes and furniture
Congrats, you've managed to build a perfect poisoning chamber!
Great video!
Learned a ton big thx 🤝
I love smoking outside overlooking my ocean views bro 🙌
Very informative and helpful. Where did the make-up air come from? If you exhaust 2000 cfm, then that air has to come from somewhere. What climate is your office building in, too? Curious, as I am in the process of designing a cigar room in my house, and am having to bring in make-up air at 100F, cool it down to 55F then reheat it so I don't overcool the space. That is a special unit, but you didn't have one of those. You used a ductless mini-split, which I also am looking at, but I don't need both. I'd love to read your response. Thanks.
I wonder if I can find $20,000 behind the sofa? I need something like this! Well done, Kirby!
How often do the filters need to be changed? And at what cost?
Ok Kirby is just trolling us with that thumbnail 😂
That great. But the smell will be on all your stuff. How you fix that
I feel like I'm on a trip, I'm tripping 🤣🤣
Are there other benefits (beyond clearing the smoke) with using a system like this?
Clean air? Haha. No, the other primary benefit is that we could duct it in so that it was quiet.
How did you get Bobby Lee on set??
The thumbnail Kirby 😂
Hi Kirby, excellent video as always! I like your lighter, who is the maker? Ty ☺️
Why filter at all instead of extracting outside?
It would have perhaps been better to have return of purified air delivered at floor level, thus supporting a draft for warm smoke air to rise up to ceiling extraction registers. But it was very quiet Kirby, I suspect quieter than the split-AC unit operating at 75% capacity?
We certainly considered this. Unfortunately, the duct work would have been too complicated for our studio. But if I ever installed this in a house (and I would LOVE to one day), I would definitely return the air at the floor! That would certainly be ideal.
should you be pumping in fresh air with the same cfm as your exhaust fan?
Have you thought about tin tile for the drop ceiling?
This is special acoustic tile that helps baffle the noise from the warehouse. We also have 6” of insulation on top of it to help further sound proof the studio.
This is similar to what the casinos use?
No idea. I bet they are way more industrialized than this.
Lol Kirby must really really enjoy smoking 😂
Kirby - Curious to know why you chose to go the filtration route opposed to the exhaust route? I was recently hanging with Gary Kolsaire at The Tobacco Shop in Ridgewood, NJ who has a Davidoff Lounge. His recommendations were more on the exhaust route for their lounge. My friends are always concerned about preserving the air conditioning, my route has just been for exhaust and running the AC heavier during smoke sessions. But, we've got a new studio space that's 75,000 cu. ft. so I'm looking for new approaches. Also, where did you place the duct vents to the CamCleaner in relation to your smoking position?
And lastly, was there a purpose behind the cigar selections during the Hot Box Session? I noticed only you were smoking a Habana.
If you have a ton of air to pull from, the exhaust route is definitely the easiest route. But you have to have a very large volume of air to pull from. In the case of the studio, we have to keep the door closed during filming, so exhaust wouldn’t work for us.
That said, I did install an exhaust fan to help bring in fresh air after smoking. However, it also vents all of our beautiful A/C.
@@kirbyallison The venting of the AC is always the difficult part of exhausting - and here on the East Coast, it also means venting the heat during the winter!
Thanks for making the video showing us the system and taking the moment to reply!
Brooks and Charlie were smoking cigars from Drew Estate, whose cigars are known for their voluminous smoke output.
Kirby, you're well spoken, we'll dressed and well educated. But you cigar smoking hobby makes you at least 5x cooler. Stay smokey!
15:23 looks like it was filmed in the 70s because of the hotbox
Jesus Charlie and brooks looked like they were in prison. Hope to see you and the sahakians together with another smoke along soon
Use a lazer pointer to display smoke
How much would a noise filter for the wife cost?
She designed a money filter for me years ago. 😆
Mike Tyson would be proud of your Hot Boxin ;)
Bravo!!
Charlie looks like someone who not only enjoys cigars xD
oof
Hey Kirby! Any way you could help a guy out? I ordered from Montefortuna for the very first time because you suggested them on multiple occasions. When I received my package, one of my boxes was riddled with mold! When I tried reaching out, they will only give me a $10 credit! Could you use your magic and help me out somehow? I love your cigar videos and have been binging them the last few weeks!
Don’t you need an air inlet for the negative pressure to really mean anything?
When the Camfil Camclean filter is running, we really don't need negative air pressure because (1) the room is very well-sealed at the door and (2) the room has an independent, self-contained HVAC system via the mini-split. The air exhaust system is really meant to exchange fresh air overnight. The only limitation of this particular design is that the HVAC does not provide a source for fresh air. This is solved by the air exhaust system.
I got a £15 desk fan
Works if you don’t have employees…
Or a wife. Lol.
I have a large heated garage for smoking cigars, with big screen, fridge and bourbon cabinet. Love it
My man!
If one was to go to this extent why even let the smoke reach the celling? Spend whatever it takes to make a positive pressure like a paint booth.
Ok, how do you get the smell out of your clothes? That system is amazing.
One word… Rabbitair. We have 2 that cover 2,000sq.ft yet in a room that is only 750sq.ft. Plus windows open. We get zero smell issues or impurities in the air
I wanna smoke my giant ROLLED MARIJUANA CIGARETTES IN THIS ROOM SO BAD!
what kind of lighter ??
Has to be a Dunhill old chap.
Bro literally this video is specifically directly towards his wife
I can appreciate good air filtration units but I sure am glad I don't smoke. Cigar smoking was one of the things that cut my grandfather's life short. I will take the longer life and spend the 20k having more fun with my family and friends.
Cigars arent as harmful as people think. I know more old cigar smokers than cigarrete smokers.
How very Gangster of you...
You need to have the main HVAC vent within 5ft of the room.
Ya it would take 1 air change to clear
I was just about to write (as a swede)
Contact Camfil
That would be strange of me to write since you both bought one for $20000 and that this video is a year old haha
Thanks for the videos
I also enjoy the aroma of a good cigar. But it is definitely a bother when the smoke just sits and accumulates in front of my face.
Congratulations! However, the sheer expense of such a system is surely beyond reasonable to most. appreciate that is highly a contentious assumption....but valid regardless
If a privately owned business had such an effective utility (even restaurants) then why should the law not allow them to have a smoking establishment? (Personally I don't think it's any of the government's business at all).
Or at least something properly firewalled off from non-smoking sections….
A 4 inch inline fan and 4 inch carbon filter (the ones used for grow tents) is all you need. Or one of those cheap 50 dollar ozone generators from amazon. Both of those = Odor free
20k isn't that expensive ... only 20 of Kirby's shirts, or a few pairs of shoes xD
Edit: Misspelling at 9:18 I'm afraid hehe
Definitely ended up a little above budget… for sure.
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Hot take: Kirby really just bought it so he can chief up without getting nicked.
He'd faint with one hit from a joint
My dad built a room onto his garage just to smoke inside lol
Luckily for the rest of us, the marijuana industry has perfected the art of smell removal on an industrial scale. For less than a grand, you can get a carbon filter the size of your car, along with a ducted fan and ducting, that can purify enough air to run a coal fired power plant in your living room.
Duct Muffler - 10" $96.74
Can-Lite Filter 10in 1500CFM $274.20
Can-Lite Pre-Filter 10 in $19.06
Dust Shroom 10in $172.62
Silver Insulated Duct 10in x 25ft $50.60
Can-Fan Max Fan Pro Series 10 in - 1057 CFM $308.08
weed smoke and cigar/cigarette smoke are completely different bro. if u smoke a cigarette ur hands will be stained with the smell for a day. weed doesnt even stick to ur hands
Doesn’t remove any odors…
@@kirbyallison heh, I can tell you are not familiar with indoor grow operations. Trust me, even one tiny plant is enough to stink up an entire house. The system I laid out could probably give your 20,000 system a run for its money. The can-lite filters are massive activated carbon filters that can handle a large grow room
Or just put in an HRV/ERV. Dumps the bad air outside and brings in fresh air from outside and recovers 85% of the energy. Almost no maintenance compared to your system.
You should have a dress code.
I don’t how high quality the filtration system is, there is no universe that exists where my wife allows smoking in the house. 🤷🏼♂️
Why does everyone always spell quiet like quite?
Yeah. That one missed the QC… relying too much on spellcheck and not enough on actual thinking. Sorry!
@@kirbyallison no problem! Spell check gets me all the time too, esp when I'm typing fast. Love the content!
9:18 Quite? lol
Yeah that mistake slipped through.. Removed it now
What a man does to his body is his prerogative, but if we can entertain a thought for a moment: if it takes $20k to filter out the air in the entire room, imagine what it will cost to filter out your lungs.
you don't inhale cigar smoke.
Good thing you are not into wealth management because that was a waste of money. LMAO
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UwU this is epic