Very interesting to learn the origins of terms like "hoist with his own petard" and "nitpicking." I wonder if it was violinists or composers who came up with, "No guts, no glory." :)
Oh for crying out loud, he wouldn`t bludgeon a cat these days in any case, that would be highly illegal.. He didn`t kill that sheep either, but it still died.. We don`t put down cats and dogs that way anymore, so if he refused to do anything it was giving a lethal injection..
Yes because emotions never had anything to do with anything.. Also, cats have a long history of getting rid of rodents and other pests, they`re a useful animal to have around, unlike cows, or pigs. Don`t even mention milk, having a 1000 pound animal to feed for some milk isn`t enough. We eat the big stupid ones because they`re nutritional and delicious, I don`t think cats and dogs will be all that tasty..
Sorry, Tony - paintball guns are not good substitutes for muskets - the fire far more often, which is good for you , since you actually had a better change of planting that petard. ;)
I do believe that all of his episodes should definitely help out History teachers in schools. Also his episodes helped me into thinking that I can't complain about my job at all since it isn't like what it was during the ages.
I wonder who the person was that looked at sheep guts and thought, "I wonder if I can make strings from them." And, "I wonder if the strings made from sheep guts will make music?"
Must have been fun for the two folks in the hallway when the whole crew left that room coughing out their lungs after purposely breathing in Sulphurdioxide
If they were 10 shooting with muskets from the walls, he would have probably died anyway. Only by sheer luck you would survive a volley fire. Muskets were not that accurate but could still hit their target with multiple shots, otherwise they would have kept crossbows just for garrison duties.
The true violin string is still made in this exact manner, albeit with much more consideration for the maker who now has gloves and protective gear to use. The very best violinists in the world only use gut strings because of their sound.
I'm always surprised they let Tony drive and talk to the camera simultaneously in these. Not that I doubt he could do it but I'd think risk assessment just wouldn't allow it.
During the Civil War and even later they had things called grenados which really were more like hand grenades, though a lot less reliable. Mudlarkers find them every now and again with the powder still in.
I think the paintball thing was a bit...unreliable data. Yes, it's safe, but they simply proved that if the musketeers had something like an automatic rifle, that guy would be dead easily. What they should have done was fire one shot every so seconds based on how often they were able to shoot with muskets.
yeah but 4 men with paintball guns represent the many hundreds of armed riflemen all firing muskets with single shots. obviously they didn't have a huge number of men but given the distance he had to run the amount of shots was probably pretty accurate.
Did you see the one where he hacked a live eel's head off for a 'wart cure'? I think this guy is too casual about killing animals by hand, on camera, for no reason other than 'shock + entertainment' :(
@@bryntendo Lots of people do eat eels. They're a normal food in the U.K. so I'm sure its body was put to use and the head would have been chucked in the bin anyway. The toad gag was clearly fake, I'm sure he wouldn't kill a wild animal.
Very surprised, but hope the sheep near the end was utilised to its fullest. Hate to think the sheep lost her life just for the sake of the program. Most disgusting job. Ewww! Pulled at my heart strings 🤢😢 excuse pun. Unintended.
The alleged progress of string making that made the violin possible and the 'humble viol' obsolete is utter nonsense. Lute strings made in 16th c Italy must have been at least as good and the viol, the preferred string instrument at Louis XIV court, was anything but humble, not to mention the small French theorbo the strings for which must have been a miracle of quality...
Banter Board not all of them, but that’s what a lot of people enjoy watching, so that’s what the producers make. We are a much younger country than Britain and we are learning how to deal with the trappings of empire. It’s complicated. You just have to look harder... try listening to lectures by professors and museum symposiums etc. But perhaps that’s too boring for you...
2:00 They still deliver milk to homes in the UK? Although I remember milk trucks in the US, virtually no one ordered because of the expense and the pointlessness, and they had practically died out by the 60's.
+Kenneth Florek as late as 1997 i was getting fresh milk delivered to my door every other day ( or so, when i needed it. could of been twice a week or something. ). was great. i dunno if they still do it.. this was in Oregon.
Chris c Thanks for the info. I heard somewhere that milk home delivery, in pint bottles (?), continued to be the rule in the UK and Europe longer than in the US because refrigerators came to be affordable later. The single commonplace item that wouldn't keep well enough without refrigeration was milk. So it wasn't convenience or luxury that supported milk home delivery, but low refrigerator ownership. I also find the size in pints incredible, because our family bought it 4 half gallons at a time, twice a week.
Kenneth Florek obviously it just depends on where you live. Milk delivery is more economical in more densely populated areas. You’re paying a premium for the transportation costs. That said, with modern milk production and preservation techniques as well as the Omni-presence of super markets, it is rather pointless.
Mid-1990's it pretty much stopped in Australia. I was in high school when it stopped in our area. (I finished high school in 1993) We kept having it delivered because it was cheaper than the supermarkets and convenient. The downside was that on "milk day" we had to make sure someone was home or else it sat out unrefrigerated on our front porch. Not so bad in winter, but imagine your milk sitting out on the porch for a few hours when it's 40C outside ... yuck.
An ancestor of mine came over to the colonies during this time period, in 1643, during the civil war. I know he was from Yorkshire, and came over with two of his brothers, but at least one stayed behind.
Dhindara Vrel Yes!!... poetic justice is totally thousands of innocent children and families dying from bursting plague bubles, little kids orphaned after watching their mother vainly treat their dying father, only to see both parents burst with bloody puss cysts, cough blood, violently shit themselves and die in front of them. The next day some other peasants come by and toss their parents like a sack of garbage onto a cart filled with 6-7 of their dead neighbors.... You think that’s poetic justice because a few Stuart era bureaucrats erroneously believed that culling thousands of STRAY / semi-ferrel dogs & cats would ameliorate the suffering of the human population? Do you have any idea how many stray dogs and cats their would have been before spay and neuter programs of the 20th century? Particularly in the rat infested port / river. cities like London, Liverpool, Plymouth, Newcastle, Portsmouth, etc. where they had an abundance of rodents to eat? So, not only were these kids seeing their parents die & get carted away, but their semi-ferrel neighborhood dog/cat pets were being put down at the behest of the town councils, parliament etc. etc. And you, with your smug acquisition of western social justice warrior perspectives, despite being an Indian who lives in one of the filthiest, most socially oppressive cultures on earth have the gall to comment, “is this poetic justice?” Is it just me, or are most Indians really fucking stupid / lack empathy for humans at an almost autistic level? Maybe that bogus cow worshipping and caste system you’ve all had for 3500 years has kind of skewed your perspectives?
Leopararouen maybe you should stop leaving stupid comments if you don’t want people to call you out on your ignorance then. One musket ball, if you were hit from a sloping trajectory could do considerably more damage than a modern bullet if it impacted any bone or organs, because it would split and fracture bone into tiny little pieces and essentially weaponize your own bone fragments inside your body. This is why (along with no understanding of germ theory during surgeries) that getting shot in the arm, shoulder or lower leg back in the day was so much more likely to result in amputation and death. And as the guy you are hating on said... every musket on the parapet would be trained specifically on the petard. And this is why so many died, and why your attempt at contrarianism is erroneous and why you are a stupid little cunt who should refrain from posting stupid little cunt comments.
matthew stoddart 3 a minute is what the British army regulars were able to do, although the more old fashioned black powder muskets of the 16th & 17th centuries, getting 2 a minute would have likely been pretty good. Either way, he’s the only guy they’re shooting at, and they are firing down at him from behind a wall, with cross fire. Which is why so many died. You guys are retarded if you’re trying to suggest it wasn’t likely as dangerous as it’s being made to be.
Yeah they didn't shoot small calibers either, but the accuracy of an aimed shot with a smoothbore at a 100 yards is about 50% but there were so many shooting and one hit with a .50 - .75 caliber will end you or blow off a leg/arm. But he also ran in the middle of the day and they probably had some kind of tactic in the real scenario to make it the success that it became. Maybe it was multiple people running, or they let loose such a barrage fire that he was able to run there while they took cover, who knows.
Sedan chair. "Have you got your Strap- On Andrew?" LOL
I love the amount of knowledgeable and passionate experts they have on Tony's programmes.
The sound mixing here is sooo much better than the Timeline channel. Definitely a much more pleasant viewing experience.
“It’s like a Giant has just gone, buuhhhfff!”
Such a funny little man.
Thank you Reijer, these are wonderful programs.
All he did was steal them and profit off someone else.
The musketeers aiming at the assistant would’ve had to reload per shot, surely?
Exactly, they trade their muskets for semi automatics, feels like cheating! Poor Tony had no chance
Very interesting to learn the origins of terms like "hoist with his own petard" and "nitpicking."
I wonder if it was violinists or composers who came up with, "No guts, no glory." :)
Maryanne Slater, no, it was from the Korean war.
Really? So my second guess of competitive sausage makers was wrong too. :)
Thanks, Barbara.
My Job as a Gas Station attendant is not so bad now........
I love that he'd be willing to do some of the most disgusting or dangerous jobs, but killing a cat he wouldn't ever do. Respect man!
Oh for crying out loud, he wouldn`t bludgeon a cat these days in any case, that would be highly illegal..
He didn`t kill that sheep either, but it still died..
We don`t put down cats and dogs that way anymore, so if he refused to do anything it was giving a lethal injection..
Not wanting to kill an animal, while being a meat eater is a good definition for hypocricy
Yes because emotions never had anything to do with anything..
Also, cats have a long history of getting rid of rodents and other pests, they`re a useful animal to have around, unlike cows, or pigs.
Don`t even mention milk, having a 1000 pound animal to feed for some milk isn`t enough.
We eat the big stupid ones because they`re nutritional and delicious, I don`t think cats and dogs will be all that tasty..
I couldn't kill a cat, ether. I'd cry
he bit a fucking frog in half and didnt even swallow it... the other episode he decapitated an eel. this dude sucks.
NOT THE KITTIES AND PUPPIES MY HEART NO
Sorry, Tony - paintball guns are not good substitutes for muskets - the fire far more often, which is good for you , since you actually had a better change of planting that petard. ;)
I do believe that all of his episodes should definitely help out History teachers in schools.
Also his episodes helped me into thinking that I can't complain about my job at all since it isn't like what it was during the ages.
I wonder who the person was that looked at sheep guts and thought, "I wonder if I can make strings from them." And, "I wonder if the strings made from sheep guts will make music?"
I wonder about the first person to milk a cow. What was he or she thinking and you gotta imagine they didnt use their hands just like a calf...
I really hope that he was paid well for these disgusting jobs
Lol! Love your documentaries, Tony.
"The government has politely declined to allow us to blow up even the smallest houses of parliament"
Must have been fun for the two folks in the hallway when the whole crew left that room coughing out their lungs after purposely breathing in Sulphurdioxide
haha brill
I so want those kitties. They're soooooo adorable! ^-^
BOBO AND TRUFFLES OMG 😭😭😭
Their names are so cute, just like them! 🥹🥹🥹🥹
Wow. Thought I had a strong stomach but the toad thing got me...
Fitting Tony ends with the assistance of a man named Stuart for the Stuart period, isn't it? LOL
Wonder if the Saltpeter man gives us the "are you taking the urine" 🤣
Holy Christmas Im never eating authentic haggis again. No wonder they banned it in Canada. Ill stick to the oatmeal stuffed version.
Paul M why was it banned
I didn’t know they had semi automatic guns back then
That cameraman is such a pure professional
Yeah but muskets our notoriously inaccurate and after a couple shots they wouldn't be able to see the petardier!
and they dont fire nearly as fast as they were shooting, kind of a failed experiment.
If they were 10 shooting with muskets from the walls, he would have probably died anyway. Only by sheer luck you would survive a volley fire. Muskets were not that accurate but could still hit their target with multiple shots, otherwise they would have kept crossbows just for garrison duties.
"Go in, you're the lighter one."
The true violin string is still made in this exact manner, albeit with much more consideration for the maker who now has gloves and protective gear to use. The very best violinists in the world only use gut strings because of their sound.
String maker and executioner are the only two jobs I'd do from these shows, so far.
I wonder if any stringed instruments are still made with intestine strings.
Quite literally shoveling shit to make someone else rich.
Sort of a "Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs" type series, but with a bit of history thrown in.
Wouldn't the sheep gut violin strings rot away??
That poor toad!!!
I'm always surprised they let Tony drive and talk to the camera simultaneously in these. Not that I doubt he could do it but I'd think risk assessment just wouldn't allow it.
They call petards primitive hand grenades it actually looks like a shaped charge.
Mikal Bell I agree. Not to primitive in my mind
Mikal Bell No blast forming cone. just a bomb strapped to a wall.
Its is a shaped charge did you not hear how the metal funnelled the charge to the gate.
During the Civil War and even later they had things called grenados which really were more like hand grenades, though a lot less reliable. Mudlarkers find them every now and again with the powder still in.
I fucking love the downtempo theme to this show
The Gunpowder Plot Exploding the Legend, Shows what may of happened if Guys Fawkes blew up Parliament.
Hey it is Stuart from Tales From The Green Valley!
22:59 HAUNTED SPOON!
SpankTV omg you’re right! She didn’t skip a beat
I think the paintball thing was a bit...unreliable data. Yes, it's safe, but they simply proved that if the musketeers had something like an automatic rifle, that guy would be dead easily. What they should have done was fire one shot every so seconds based on how often they were able to shoot with muskets.
yeah but 4 men with paintball guns represent the many hundreds of armed riflemen all firing muskets with single shots. obviously they didn't have a huge number of men but given the distance he had to run the amount of shots was probably pretty accurate.
plus they wouldn't be reloading/firing at same time..
That test using the petard wasn't fair. Muskets would take a minute to reload. These guys were just firing one after another.
But the walls wouldve been lined with men. A volley of muskets wouldve hit their mark i think especially if they're all aiming at the same guy.
Great episode, but I do feel sorry for the toad. Did they have to go as far as killing the cute little guy?
+Banter Board Idk if they did, it looked pretty fake to me.
Did you see the one where he hacked a live eel's head off for a 'wart cure'? I think this guy is too casual about killing animals by hand, on camera, for no reason other than 'shock + entertainment' :(
It was obviously a "cookie" toad. Funny bit.
Fuck eels.
@@bryntendo Lots of people do eat eels. They're a normal food in the U.K. so I'm sure its body was put to use and the head would have been chucked in the bin anyway. The toad gag was clearly fake, I'm sure he wouldn't kill a wild animal.
The "paint ball" muskets were firing like automatic rifles..the plague victim at 26:00 has a rather pronounce pulse in her jugular.
Sarah Holloway, veins don't pulse, LOL.
Yeah wow because they were actually going to get a dead plague victim weren’t they 🙄
Very surprised, but hope the sheep near the end was utilised to its fullest. Hate to think the sheep lost her life just for the sake of the program. Most disgusting job. Ewww! Pulled at my heart strings 🤢😢 excuse pun. Unintended.
Muskets compared to paintball guns is a non starter
Sedan chairs still pretty much exist but have wheels now. They're in India and they're called rickshaws.
The alleged progress of string making that made the violin possible and the 'humble viol' obsolete is utter nonsense. Lute strings made in 16th c Italy must have been at least as good and the viol, the preferred string instrument at Louis XIV court, was anything but humble, not to mention the small French theorbo the strings for which must have been a miracle of quality...
Or there's no difference at all and the supposed sound quality is, in fact, in your head.
lol i wish usa had this tv show
***** You can just watch it here, do you mean a US version?
no i mean on us tv William Fenton
Me too. US historical documentaries are pro-American bullshit propaganda.
Banter Board not all of them, but that’s what a lot of people enjoy watching, so that’s what the producers make. We are a much younger country than Britain and we are learning how to deal with the trappings of empire. It’s complicated.
You just have to look harder... try listening to lectures by professors and museum symposiums etc.
But perhaps that’s too boring for you...
Maybe it's been on BBC America.
At 24:09, the captions read something that I am fairly certain Mr. Robinson doesn’t say!
Hahaha indeed!
2:00 They still deliver milk to homes in the UK? Although I remember milk trucks in the US, virtually no one ordered because of the expense and the pointlessness, and they had practically died out by the 60's.
+Kenneth Florek as late as 1997 i was getting fresh milk delivered to my door every other day ( or so, when i needed it. could of been twice a week or something. ). was great. i dunno if they still do it.. this was in Oregon.
Chris c Thanks for the info. I heard somewhere that milk home delivery, in pint bottles (?), continued to be the rule in the UK and Europe longer than in the US because refrigerators came to be affordable later. The single commonplace item that wouldn't keep well enough without refrigeration was milk. So it wasn't convenience or luxury that supported milk home delivery, but low refrigerator ownership. I also find the size in pints incredible, because our family bought it 4 half gallons at a time, twice a week.
We get milk delivered in the US
Kenneth Florek obviously it just depends on where you live. Milk delivery is more economical in more densely populated areas. You’re paying a premium for the transportation costs.
That said, with modern milk production and preservation techniques as well as the Omni-presence of super markets, it is rather pointless.
Mid-1990's it pretty much stopped in Australia. I was in high school when it stopped in our area. (I finished high school in 1993)
We kept having it delivered because it was cheaper than the supermarkets and convenient. The downside was that on "milk day" we had to make sure someone was home or else it sat out unrefrigerated on our front porch. Not so bad in winter, but imagine your milk sitting out on the porch for a few hours when it's 40C outside ... yuck.
Oops! My nephew's nickname was toady when he was little!!
They brought some of this on themselves because cats could've killed the rays. -_-
Also that toad is so cute!
28:03 those real dead bodies hahahahahaha
***** yes! its part of the filming crew, they asked for a rise.
as you can see, they didn't get one....lol
You got your strap on andrew
An ancestor of mine came over to the colonies during this time period, in 1643, during the civil war. I know he was from Yorkshire, and came over with two of his brothers, but at least one stayed behind.
killing the toad, not cool. :(
25 min in...a pensioner like you
It makamesick.
22:59 wtf???
They kill innocent and helpful creatures and the plague got worse. Is it just me or would this be a perfect example of poetic justice?
+Dhindara Vrel No, it's just you and the other animal rights people.
Dhindara Vrel Yes!!... poetic justice is totally thousands of innocent children and families dying from bursting plague bubles, little kids orphaned after watching their mother vainly treat their dying father, only to see both parents burst with bloody puss cysts, cough blood, violently shit themselves and die in front of them. The next day some other peasants come by and toss their parents like a sack of garbage onto a cart filled with 6-7 of their dead neighbors....
You think that’s poetic justice because a few Stuart era bureaucrats erroneously believed that culling thousands of STRAY / semi-ferrel dogs & cats would ameliorate the suffering of the human population?
Do you have any idea how many stray dogs and cats their would have been before spay and neuter programs of the 20th century? Particularly in the rat infested port / river. cities like London, Liverpool, Plymouth, Newcastle, Portsmouth, etc. where they had an abundance of rodents to eat?
So, not only were these kids seeing their parents die & get carted away, but their semi-ferrel neighborhood dog/cat pets were being put down at the behest of the town councils, parliament etc. etc.
And you, with your smug acquisition of western social justice warrior perspectives, despite being an Indian who lives in one of the filthiest, most socially oppressive cultures on earth have the gall to comment, “is this poetic justice?”
Is it just me, or are most Indians really fucking stupid / lack empathy for humans at an almost autistic level? Maybe that bogus cow worshipping and caste system you’ve all had for 3500 years has kind of skewed your perspectives?
well not really I'm pretty sure the rest of the sheep would have also been used especially back the.
I don't think they're talking about the sheep. But people will do stupid things when angry or in fear.
Did he really eat a live frog?
Spare a thought for the poor serial killer who has to extract the small intestines of his victims to make into catgut strings.
The Rev. Silas Bogtrumper was never in St. Pauls. This is because I have just made him up, as he never existed.
Also did he eat the toad because I need an answer
Ethan Golden I was thinking the same thing. I cringed so hard 🤢
Yeah but muskets our notoriously inaccurate and after a couple shots they wouldn't be able to see the petardier!
At 50 yards with a musket I could put almost every shot within a 10 inch grouping and remember you would have had to face many shooting at you.
Not only that but a musket can only fire 2 shots a minute.
Leopararouen maybe you should stop leaving stupid comments if you don’t want people to call you out on your ignorance then.
One musket ball, if you were hit from a sloping trajectory could do considerably more damage than a modern bullet if it impacted any bone or organs, because it would split and fracture bone into tiny little pieces and essentially weaponize your own bone fragments inside your body. This is why (along with no understanding of germ theory during surgeries) that getting shot in the arm, shoulder or lower leg back in the day was so much more likely to result in amputation and death.
And as the guy you are hating on said... every musket on the parapet would be trained specifically on the petard. And this is why so many died, and why your attempt at contrarianism is erroneous and why you are a stupid little cunt who should refrain from posting stupid little cunt comments.
matthew stoddart 3 a minute is what the British army regulars were able to do, although the more old fashioned black powder muskets of the 16th & 17th centuries, getting 2 a minute would have likely been pretty good.
Either way, he’s the only guy they’re shooting at, and they are firing down at him from behind a wall, with cross fire. Which is why so many died.
You guys are retarded if you’re trying to suggest it wasn’t likely as dangerous as it’s being made to be.
Yeah they didn't shoot small calibers either, but the accuracy of an aimed shot with a smoothbore at a 100 yards is about 50% but there were so many shooting and one hit with a .50 - .75 caliber will end you or blow off a leg/arm. But he also ran in the middle of the day and they probably had some kind of tactic in the real scenario to make it the success that it became. Maybe it was multiple people running, or they let loose such a barrage fire that he was able to run there while they took cover, who knows.