Economic Update: Social Movement Gains in L.A.
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- [S10 E47] Social Movement Gains in L.A.
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On this week's show, Prof. Wolff discusses the immense social waste of US unemployment now, Trump ban on investing in Chinese companies, new global organization for worker co-ops, higher education cuts in UK and US. The second half of the show features an interview with Niki Okuk, South Central LA activist fighting for community control of downtown Crenshaw Mall.
Niki Okuk is a South Central Los Angeles resident and activist working to halt rapid gentrification through a community lead bid to buy and redevelop the 40-acre Crenshaw Mall under a cooperative and community wealth building model. She has spent several years building green-collar jobs and a
democratic workplace, which she spoke about in her 2017 TED talk "Fire the Boss." She is a Black Lives Matter organizer and tribal member Awakane Kamanuku.
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Richard, you're a boss with your analysis
I’m glad I found your channel and hope one day the workers revolution hits full swing.
I hope so too. Long overdue.
“Stagnating economies can, indeed, be very good for the rich, who feast off the carnage.”
But of course. Real values are not destroyed in an economic crisis. They just become REALLY cheap and easy to aquire, because of foreclosures, bankruptcies and so on. '
And when 99% of the population loses all they have, the 1% is there to hoover it all up. While noone is really looking.
#FriedmanEconomics #ChicagoSchool She seems to be attracting some criticism lately,
but Naomi Klein's 'Shock Doctrine' examined this very well.
For a while.
@@kwakkers68 "Shock Doctrine" is a good read. I also recommend "No Logo" about globalization and why your job ended up in China. Or some "Export Production Zone" in the Phillipines or whereever labor is REALLY cheap at the moment.
Worker based coops were mentioned in Labor For Sustainable Development international conference today 5.Decemmber 2020.
There is nothing about capitalism that prevents worker coops from forming. In fact there is nothing stopping groups of people from getting together and forming their own socialist or communist communities within a capitalist society. Under socialism, however, being a capitalist is violently opposed. That should make you wonder about which system can actually work and which system people actually like to live in. But socialists insist that everyone needs to be a socialist, because after all they need someone to steal from if they are going to give to someone else....
@@freddieg7131 When the slave owner says, "I already let some of the slaves go, and now you're opposed to me having any slaves at all?" Really makes you wonder about which system can work and which system people actually like to live in. But abolitionists insist no one can own slaves, because after all they must unjustly take the slaves from the slave owners. God you're a joke lmao
@@bigbabymustache9284 It would be difficult for you to be more wrong. You see the point is that socialism is the system of slavery. Slaves of the state. Under capitalism individuals are free to form whatever working arrangement they would like. A group could get together and basically be socialists. Share their income, distribute it however they see fit. If any of the socialists today want to start a business and hire only socialists who are going to work together that is fine. There are a lot of socialists with plenty of money to start a business. So no shortage of capital. Why don't they do it? Why do they insist that everyone be a socialist and not just themselves and their friends?
@@freddieg7131 Socialism based on worker self-determination is slavery. How? In the case where we have a capitalist economy full of monopolies, then most people are forced to consume from and work for a few companies that have taken advantage of the structure of markets and government.
Most people have little wealth and capital to create their own businesses in a way that won't wreck their future if they fail. Those monopolies I mentioned increase their rate of failure as well. That is a huge problem and a barrier to making an economy that works the way that capitalist cheerleaders wish it would.
@@fleebertreatise1063 Self-determination is what capitalism is. Voluntary interactions between individuals who are free to trade or do business (or not) with whoever they want. Socialism is force. Individuals are forced to comply with the interactions the state determines to be beneficial, not the individual. There has never been a capitalist economy full of monopolies where people are forded to work for a few companies and there never would be. Under capitalism tiny businesses compete with gigantic ones and eventually one of the tiny businesses will out compete and overtake the leader. Large corporations are like governments. Over time they become rigid and cannot innovate which means they become inefficient compared to competitors. When the government gives a special privilege to a corporation which allows them to operate a monopoly that is not capitalism. That is fascism. Socialism is monopolization of industry by the state and run by the state. So if you are worried about being forced to work for a monopoly you should be worried about socialism.
Years ago when we were more capitalist workers had higher real wages than they do today. Most people have little wealth and capital today because of our socialist and fascist economic system. Under capitalism you don't need capital to be an entrepreneur, you just need investors. You need to convince people with capital that you can competently use their capital in such a way that you can make a profit for you and them. Having capital is not a pre-requite for success in capitalism. In fact the most successful capitalists tended to start with almost no capital of their own.
Thanks once again Professor. Great show.
Excellent guest Richard
Wolff, the man of knowledge
Excellent! This kind of effort demands our support - material, as well as, by talking about it on and off-line; by remembering it when we leave a comment, and by book-marking a couple of the key websites to follow their progress and when they encounter an obstacle we can encourage them or offer suggestions. We have got to stop thinking, speaking, and acting from the perspective of and psychology resulting from a slave mind-set.
The success and refinement of this group's model could establish a foundational framework that could be built upon and expanded. Having lived in L.A. for a number of years in the past, I am familiar with the area being discussed. I always liked South Central especially that area around Crenshaw. With a victory and successful development of this project, this coalition might propose that the entire Crenshaw district begin redesigning everything toward complete independence and self-sufficiency where there is only a minimal need for and use of money.
Turn every structure and every road into energy and data producing resources to start. Remove excess and unused structures to reclaim the space. Then construct high-efficiency low-impact multi-level vertical farming co-ops with the goal of growing enough fruits and vegetables [maybe, even nuts] to provide for every resident at no out-of-pocket cost.
Develop neighborhood and industrial 3-D printing centers and contribute to the advancement of extrusion technology and it's older, but smaller brother, 3-D printing. These technologies offer a very real and substantial likelihood of drastically reducing waste and resource over-shoot in a number of sectors. In fact, one of the compelling aspects is investigating how much and what components of our current household and industrial waste products can be recycled or reconstituted to be used as the material utilized by extrusion and 3-D printers to create their output.
The point is the creation and development of these technologies will provide another corner-stone of complete community independence and self-sufficiency by providing free community access to and use of them. Thus, being able to build or print a plethora of structures, goods, and products at no cost to citizens.
There are a few more future development targets I could address, but won't. I'm sure you're ready to move on. So, I will simply restate my opening thought that this kind of effort demands our support. Materialy by volunteering time or professional services, money if possible. And, by talking about what they are trying to do, commenting on-line about it, keep up with them going forward, and when they hit a rough patch, encourage them. This division and distrust and fear our corporate slave-masters employ to manipulate and dominate us are precisely the same as that used by those paragons of Capitalist virtue, Southern plantation owners. Whose lineage, by the way, is still one of the five primary components of the power elite. I digress.
It is time to admit and face up to the truth that we [you] are in fact and in every practical sense a slave. Once one admits and accepts this one fact, it is possible to think about, imagine, and take action. The time has arrived for us to ignore the slave divisions and slave-language currently dominating our culture and conversations. All of this "Left," "Right," "PC," "Cancel," bullshit is an irrelevant distraction created to quash dissent, our spirit, and our liberty. The forces of tyranny and complete authoritarian domination are consolidating their forces, their wealth, and their power. They are moving briskly to complete the necessary legal and institutional adjustments needed to justify and enforce the new rules and regulations when citizens begin to notice. Soon, the surveillance and government dependence web will be so wide and tight that organizing against it will be, for all practical purposes unlikely to impossible.
Please stop thinking, living, and fighting with each other like a bunch of demoralized slaves. Wake up, stand up, and ORGANIZE. Do NOT pay any attention that someone or group might seem completely different in their ideas and politics. Inquire, listen, and I believe that nearly all those "other" people want pretty-much if not exactly the same changes and support as you and your cohorts. So, we ORGANIZE and create an unstoppable UNITED front. It is absolutely a fact that people acting in UNITY for a common purpose or goals is unstoppable, short of mass slaughter. Please, watch some Chris Hedges videos on RUclips. And, even though he may not be your normal cup of tea, please find some time to keep up with the work Jimmy Dore is doing by watching his videos and streams on RUclips. This is a great episode. Thanks, Professor Wolff, and all at Democracy at Work.
What a GREAT interview with a terrific person on a top-notch mission! I pass thru this area frequently. It has history. It has culture. It has potential. The last thing it needs is gentrification and speculation undermining that potential. I hope that cooperativism takes LA by storm and gives average people a shot at a decent life in a city more than capable of offering just that to everyone, not just the super-rich.
Thanks, Richard.
I wish the "Crenshaw Movement" success. My compliments on the well designed website. I hope they don't tear down that beautiful "Art Nuvo" building.
Dr. Wolfe, thanks for mentioning Worker's Co-ops.Please give more in-depth examples of these enterprises
“So what does it mean when you have a campaign which is funded very significantly by the wealthy and the powerful? Does anyone seriously believe that the president backed by the corporate world is going to bring about the changes in this country that working families and the middle class and lower-income people desperately need?”
Of course not. This system, this government, is completely broken ... unless you realize that it was originally constructed to function this way.
Who were those men that gathered in the now-famous Constitution Hall in Philadelphia, during the summer of 1787? They were unelected, wealthy bourgeois aristocrats who sought to consolidate power in the form of a strong Federal Government after the debtor rebellions in Massachusetts and Pennsylvania in the previous years. The US Government was created in order to protect the property, the privilege, and the interests of those who own property and extract wealth off of the backs of everyday working people. In this country, our people romanticize earlier times and the so-called 'Founders,' as if they were well-intentioned men who designed to look after the needs of all, and were larger than life heroes. You can see the effects of this indoctrination when you hear frustrated people say things like "We need to take our country back!" As if it were once pure, and became corrupted somewhere along the way.
A link in the description for Niki's group would've been a good idea.
That was an oversight. It's been added and here it is for your convenience. www.downtowncrenshaw.com/
Thanks for your interest!
Perhaps I can just put an addendum here as I think Prof.Wolff accidentally said "democratizingwork.com" in the broadcast for Julie Battilana et al.'s website/manifesto/organization thing but upon searching for this site, found out it was "democratizingwork _.org_ "
democratizingwork.org/
@@Bisquick thank you
Good Morning Doc!
WOW!! Two bedroom apartment's for $5000 a month🤑 I'm a peasant
No! No reasonable person can or would attempt to afford that. That's what's called 'asset price inflation,' or 'economic rent.'
@@itzenormous SAD........
Wow, I just noticed 209,000+ subscribers.
I began watching this channel when it had less than 15,000 subs.
How long ago was it?
Hi!
I’m pretty sure he just recently exploded right? I just noticed and was surprised for some reason... he deserves it, but he is a bit too serious and informational for the majority of people who are looking for some info.
I’ll keep spreading the word though!
@@anasty_arisaka754 I think he presents information succinctly
@@holy_shushcabin3716 don’t even know what that is!
This shows why at least a PORTION of lands that may have in the past been "for profit" ventures, should be GIVEN by banks to communities as community property. Low income housing, AT A MINIMUM for those sites, but with modern design and efficiency, not junky "projects". Also, those places should be designed with jobs built in, like gardeners, maintenance and more. And the majority of the income from the tenants should go right back into the people and property, NOT to the banks who do freakin' NOTHING.
Spot On Analysis Professor Wolff 🎯 #EyesWideOpen
This was wonderful full solidarity (go sign the petition yall)
It's DemocratizingWork.ORG!
Wolff needs to bring people from said organization to his show in the next few weeks, as well as other inroads so that both groups can become stronger than they were individually.
I like the theme song.
Professor Wolff, love your updates. I understand you haven't found a way to integrate MMT within your very well formulated construct, but as you haven't actually opposed it either I live in hope that this academic conundrum will work itself out in time.
I know you're probably talking about integration into the main show, but he's definitely had Stephanie Kelton on in various capacities. Here's one:
ruclips.net/video/odxpmyD4w0w/видео.html
MMT is just a vulgarized Keynesianism (Wolff himself is a Keynesian).
@@russingram8101 Son, STFU. 2 out of 2 false statements don't cut it. Wolff is a Socialist who applauds Keynesianism as a temporary fix for Capitalism but nothing more. And when you use the word vulgarian on something that isn't, then you fit the adjective. 👋
@@Bisquick Thank you very much, my friend. I can't wait to watch it. I just didn’t go back far enough. My mistake. And I don't mind Prof Wolff sticking to his curriculum.
I live one mile from The Crenshaw Mall #LeimertPark #NipssieHussleSquare #SouthCentral #NikiOkuk
Australia has eliminated local infections and is now dealing only with infected overseas returnees in our upgraded and beefed up hotel quarantine regime. So, as many problems capitalism has caused here, it shows that with good and coordinated leadership, Medicare, a UBI during the pandemic to encourage people to stay home, good contact tracing and a population that has faith, by and large in its public health system.
Dont go shopping or patronize what they build there !
It's simple. Dont patronize what you dont want in your neighborhood!!!
True. Voting with your feet is the most powerful act in an economic democracy. Yet, the participants keep believing that they "have no choice". Duh.
@@nachannachle2706 Teach !!!!
Jones is the former Florida Department of Health data scientist who built the state's much-praised COVID-19 dashboard before being fired over what she said was refusing to "manipulate data." She was fired from her job as Geographic Information Systems manager for the department in May.
Just before 5 p.m. Monday, Jones tweeted a Twitter thread that included video of the raid at her home: "1/ There will be no update today. At 8:30 am this morning, state police came into my house and took all my hardware and tech. They were serving a warrant on my computer after DOH filed a complaint. They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids.."
These "live-work" hipster capitalists need to feel the heat anywhere else outside of LA where they ever hope to do business.
Viva the revolution
China has been reducing holdings of U.S. debt. Japan is the largest U.S. debt holder at the moment.
Cut the games and cut the check. REPARATIONS NOW!
Access to business now. Not some measly check
all races must UNITE B.B.Y.AI AND ALL UNDERDOGS regardless of the color of the skin I said black brown yellow American Indian{natives} we are not suppose discriminate each other like we been doing we got to stop! discriminating each other!
By the way the "Gardening" I mention in another comment would be largely large areas to grow food. The roofs should also be utilized for some food growing as well. Of course there can be some beautification gardening as well.
put your guest's name or project in title to get more views in future. stay safe Dr. and crew
Such strange words thou speaketh: "Federal Jobs Program?!" Art thou a witch? (Say ALL our so-called "leaders").
For a country that is driven by public interest rather than private venture, there are infinite work opportunities that could continue the national productivity in times of crippling pandemics. The problem of course in a private venture culture with those opportunities is that it may not produce billionaires. The benefit will be spread over every citizen in the nation. And God forbid, that is not allowed in a “free market” culture!
Some of those government created jobs, for instance, is getting tap water, sewage, electricity and easy access to every corner in the country, hence resining real estate value of the land and the fixtures on top of it. This would create instant real wealth at the national scale and encourage foreign investors to move in and buy real estate in our nation. Since we operate off fiat money, we could create money, just like the privileged bankers do, and use that money to fund the created government jobs! Another opportunity that works great in a pandemic times is forestation. Everyone who receives unemployment payment should go out there and plant trees on the side of the roads within crowded cities and towns. This improves the carbon emission and increase oxygen in the air!
Yet another opportunity would be mobilizing household economies. Members of household could engage in work-at-home jobs were products and services created don’t need commute and hence reduce social contact the number one culprit responsible for the spread of the disease!
Those are just examples that could be used to sustain the economy in times of pandemic, but they all fit into a healthy socialism paradigm than a biased private capitalist system. It is our choice.
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Australia and New Zealand have low populations with specialized export Primary industries. They benefit from cheap imports in a free trade relationship with China. Countries with large populations are loosing many manufacturing jobs to cheaper Asian competitors. Conclusion: Densely populated Industrialized countries must reduce their population through birth control and/or introduce tariffs to preserve enough local manufacturing jobs to provide acceptable levels of employment. The world is in a population and labor over-supply crisis. Free trade appears to be a race to the bottom for cheap labor. Selected tariffs may be unavoidable for over populated industrialized countries. Is this a fair analysis? One glove does not fit all!
A jobs program is good but the trillions created should of promoted our population to invest in the creation of workers owned businesses especially the product that are only available form china. Currency creation out of thin air will never be paid back to thin air.
5000 dollars a month 2 bedroom apartment, do I need to say anymore? Folks are running out of affordable places to live in So Cal. Los Angeles has become tent city.
Do we have anything like this in Chicago?
Now a job at any pay is needed. Any job is rejected...most want to stay home........values much different today
All these solutions make perfect sense, but it appears the economic problems cannot be solved by those currently in power. Perhaps we need a bit more unemployment, like for instance firing all the representatives, and senators, and chief executives unwilling to make the changes necessary. Before the economic problems can be solved, big political problems must be dealt with.
I stan u
it's been such false economy - by avoiding a comprehensive lockdown (which costs, say x dollars), it will end up costing the US 100x dollars. That is not to mention the horrendous loss of life. It's just unbelievable that a medical pandemic has been allowed to be politicised like it has there.
Good luck to Niki Okuk - the community's had a gutful of these grotesquely greedy developers who couldn't care less about local communities and their goals and wishes at all.
Each state in America was given free oppertunity to handle the covid situation they saw fit for their situation. Unfortunately, state dictators implemented policy they wanted regardless it made sence or not. Take each state and see the worst off, look at those in control, Democratic or Republican.
the u.s. government is controlled by the money corporations and oligarchs provide. if we could get the money out of politics. get rid of lobbyists, political donations, etc the people might get some representation that would benefit everyone in our society
@Larpy McLarperstein you just keep telling yourself you think there is someone in government who actually cares about what you want to believe. There is no one in politics that is going to support the people and you are right the elite has always been in control and are unlikely to give that control up without a fight. maybe it is time.
Great movement but they need to develop their own currency (ditch the dollar)
Any country whose half population is at poverty can't be called wealthy. Any community has the right to decide their future without any outside pressure.
How about outside help and expertise?
I don't understand,how can America be the largest borrower in the world and still be the home to the most millionaire and billionaire?
Correction: "In July 2020, Japan owned $1.29 trillion in U.S. Treasuries, making it the largest foreign holder. The second-largest holder is China, which owns $1.07 trillion of U.S. debt."
LA has educated people (1) that reaped benefit during heyday, since Japanese Internment--these were Black areas (was relined, prohibited other economic areas (is there a legal case in policy discrimination?). People are desperate and already paying high rents--so higher is not an option, option is using current monies for investment since have to pay them anyhow for shelter.
There have never been more govt workers,either directly or indirectly via contrators than at any time in history!
Ya it's like we don't even have capitalism. Except no one here seems to realize the fall of "capitalism" and the economy being destroyed seems to coincide with the rise of socialism. If only history was of any use to us right now....
There is no dichotomy between the government and the market.
@@russingram8101 Maybe if you use extremely vague terms like "government" and "market" and define them broadly. But if you use terms with any precision whatsoever there is a stark contrast: Government force vs a free market. Socialism vs capitalism. Big differences.
Where does the country get tax dollars if half the population is unemployed and homeless?
Wouldn't it be more correct to say *unwilling?
Correction: the side is with .ORG So, it's DemocratizingWork.org
Why borrow gazillions from China? Thats nuts
So prof , WHAT's THE SOLUTION??????????????????????
Artificial scarcity.
We could make a confederated city or state jobs program, as well.
If our states and cities actually collaborated more than they competed.
Union co-op model ALL THE WAY UP. >:3
The non-federal, non-state, non-city power of the working class is what will make change. Strike, rise up, make demands, give the oligarchy tangible consequences.
Federal job program sounds like more Government
You sound like a knuckle dragging goon
@@hth3889 how so is this not Government? If im wrong explain don't just call me a monkey.
@@hth3889 this is what I thought am I wrong? The U.S. civil service is managed by the Office of Personnel Management, which as of December 2011 reported approximately 2.79 million civil servants employed by the federal government, including employees in the departments and agencies run by any of the three branches of government (the executive branch, legislative ...
@@chrissmith4025 Didn't say it wasn't, just pointing our your goonish comment:-
!!!mUurGh GuUveGgmUurNtT!!!
can you say failed state?
Some great critique of capitalism, but the solutions on offer do not address the issue. Capitalism must go. Money, commodity production, classes...
COVID trackers now. Wrong think enforcement agents later.
Don't be paranoid. Covid trackers give us the ability to fight this virus efficiently. It's what New Zealand did and it helped make them almost covid free.
@@steppenwolf3252 My friend. I am not talking about the original intent. I am talking about how it will be repurposed.
?? DemocratizingWork. Com??
Na na it's democracy at work lol
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Why is an explosion of positive tests horrific? Correction, a positive test is not, according to medical literature a case. A case is something severe enough that it requires treatment. So this is actually good news; hospitalizations and fatalities are down.
Covid can cause serious problems even if it never brings symptoms- and some of those things are capable of harming someone for the rest of their life.
I can only imagine how america would respond to a pandemic that had a fatality rate of 10 percent. Considering how america is panicking over a virus that has a survival rate ranging from 99.9 to 94.7 depending on the information you read. Yes we should not dismiss the virus but what are we teaching the public in the long term as a society?
Stocks are crashing bitcoin investment right now will be at every wise individual's list. In two to three years you'll be ecstatic with the decision you made today.
Stocks are good but crypto is better
@@leonardbugger7814 EXACTLY
@@leonardbugger7814 You're right investing is the key, 🙂🙂
Nice words
While that's generally true, it's concerning that several of the richest, most successful investors are sitting on the sidelines right now and waiting for a better entry point
Hash tag complainer, hahaha hilarious
elizabeth taylor. NOT LOUD ENOUGH. CAN'T YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS????
Well do materialize socialism more easily this great way I have studied to be done with least hastle and resistance possible! ? Why Not ?
I wish all socialists would study more in the whole world , and more seriously what kind of socialism will be by itself more easily transitionned or go into , with minimum class struggles , and max progress in csiences and technologies , into moneyless and with private property turned into use-valued property by instituting new foundations , that would not resemble state-capitalism at all ! I think it will be instituting in a small community, or networks, an Open social political Global University starting all over the world , with a Universal Status , replacing money and a universal crypto not bankable, not alianable from each and not speculative , just cumulated social hourly activities of each member and summued up with her or his Universal Salary at age of 16 , somme 850 dollars in 2020 added to his cumulated hourly activity , representing also her or his social part or social daily income right !
# Empty Hospitals ????
No. Our hospitals are maxed out
what the hell??? NO ONE SHOULD INVEST IN WAR CORPORATIONS OF ANY DAMN STRIPE!!! you're losing me, Dr. Wolff
when Herr Dumptruck does something i'm not opposed to, sorry, but i'm not gonna condemn him for accidentally doing something right,
What's wrong with biz with peace companies or green companies? War is death. But we work with what we have while working toward the good for all humans, right?
So? We should do mo' business with the CCP.
Why not do biz with Americans?
Is there some genius mind here who can invent a cryptocurrency for cooperatives?
I do agree most people are wicked and evil this includes the rich. If people loved people as mush as they love themselves a lot would change. Side note a boss owns 4 houses and its filled with the nicest stuff toys cars vacations for months at a time and out of the 50 employees 20 to 30 can't even go to myrtle beach for a week. That is the problem greedy people with zero JESUS
@Larpy McLarperstein what are you talking about, evil people, greed, love people equally. I said nothing about steal take appropriate, or the rest. Covetous, no they can keep the mansion but why have 4 of them? People are starving in the street's. There again wicked people non bible believing world is eating it's own
@Larpy McLarperstein i have fed the poor but not only that if you like I can give you something more valuable than Gold and that is the Gospel of Christ JESUS who is GOD
@Larpy McLarperstein what are you talking about, listen buddy believing in the Gospel of Christ is how you get saved, if you would like I will share the Gospel with you
He washed the feet of his disciples to show everyone is equal
@Larpy McLarperstein and I'm still on point with my first comment everyone is wicked with no JESUS that is the problem
People will be kicking themselves in few weeks if they miss the opportunity to buy and invest in bitcoin
BITCOIN: IS THE ONLY TRUE DEMOCRACY EVER EXISTS IN THE WORLD
Crypto is the future, trading crypto has become a lucrative way of making money
Stock are good too
@khal Menthus That won't bother you if you trad with an expert like Charles Washington
He has really made a good name for himself
American communists, who would have believed that? Pretty laughable indeed lol.
American socialism developed independently from European socialism and communism prior to WWII
Don't you study American history?
Lol your a joke
People will be kicking themselves in few weeks if they miss the opportunity to buy and invest in bitcoin