How did this comment beat Cimo's in terms of number of likes? (He even properly capitalized "Hand Destruction" and even put a period at the end of his sentence!) O_o
The most important thing about budget player is GET FRIENDS...Friends are a powerful tool in this game, since they can help you get cards. Don't be shy and interact with people in your local store, they can give you some advice about deckbuilding, and the most important thing... you have a sparring partner.
I always end up noticing really weird stuff about card art in these videos. Like Abyss Dwaller was the biggest one for me. I honestly never knew it was a dragon and I've probably spent the last 5 years or whatever looking at that card.
I believe that you should also test the deck online as best you can before buying it instead of just buying it just because it’s good. No matter how good a deck is, if you’re bad it it, and you can’t play that kind of deck, you just wasted some money unless you can trade it
Eric LeBow What do you mean "if you're bad at it"? I understand not initially knowing how to play it, but it's a card game. All you need to do is learn the combos. Playing the deck isn't a skill-oriented thing.
+Bucket Suu Oh, I'd disagree. Let's not pretend like you can just autopilot this shit. Jumping the gun, hesitating under fire, coming undone by an oversight in the plan, lacking observance of your opponent's side of the field (I've lost count of the amount of times my finishing blow's been rudely interrupted by Fairy Tail -Snow), if you just expect the combo to play itself, you'll only be left in the dust. Not to mention adaptability. If you play anything that's made big in Tournaments, you better have a good idea how to customize it, because those are the decks with the most crosshairs drawn on them. Lightsworn might be viable, but that's why my Hero deck packs a Dark Law. Kaijus are a popular removal-play, but that's why graveyard bounce-back is so pivotal to the game. Especially if you're playing on a budget among just friends, it's those people that know your deck the best and many times me and my friend have ended up building decks in an endless feedback-war of countering each others' counter-tactics.
AlluMan96 Those are all things that rely on an individual's skill. Planning around the current meta, not overcommitting, managing resources, etc. None of those have anything to do with the actual decks. I'm not saying anything about auto-piloting. It's just that the game isn't complicated. People should generally know what the optimal play is, unless they're just picking up the deck.
Yeah. It was just the "Playing a deck isn't a skill-oriented thing" that rubbed me the wrong way and might've just misinterpreted what you meant with that. I do agree that the "what" in playing the deck is a rather straight-forward answer. Even if you're picking the thing up for the first time, anyone that's played Yu-Gi-Oh for a while should be able to crack it with a bit of cross-examination, finding the win-condition and seeing which dots connect point A to point B. In fact, that should be the first thing you do, is figure out the deck's win-condition, because without that, you really can't customize it well at all, which is always an important part for me, as someone who usually builds decks on intuition and "See if this works" whims (For the record; Not a competitive player).
I wish you made this video when I was in community college three years ago. This is what I've been doing for the past two years and it's helped my collection of competitive decks
I like how many of the full holographic booster boxes/packs, like BLLR and structure decks can make the vast-majority of a meta deck, while usin many staples to bridge the difference and/or budget alternatives. I purchased the Pendulum Evolution boxes and made 2 Pendulum Magician decks in 2017, which were both meta decks at the time. Same w/Dinosaur's Rage and Souldburner (Salamangreat's).
I still buy packs and it is for 3 reasons. 1. I like deck building so the additional cards can help with me building fun decks while I work on my primary deck. 2. I play the gamble to try to pull the card for less than the card's cost. 3. I like trading cards so having more options that I won't use let's me trade for things I want or think may have value later. I do see your point since most of my primary deck was bought through singles
i like opening packs, but i dont buy a high dollar deck because im not really gonna invest the time to play it. But as a collector a 50-100 dollar box is defs worth it.
I think one of the strongest pieces of evidence for YGO becoming cheaper to play is that the most expensive cards in the game are no longer engine cards. This means the pieces of every deck that are necessary for it to be playable are affordable, and that the "competitive edge" cards are the ones that cost any real money.
Watching this video in late 2018 and everything in it is still relevant. The only time I buy packs is every couple weeks or so my buddy and I will buy a pack or two when we go for our beer run on Saturday night. Just a little fun thing we do together. Aside from that 10 or so dollars spent every few weeks, all of my yugioh money is spent on singles for my decks.
Your video makes a fair point being a budget player myself, sure you can possibly make 3rd place at a regional level and if you're extremely lucky top 20 at worlds. The best advice I have ever gotten was look at the meta and find a way to break it. When everyone was playing zoo I took a bunch of local tournaments in my surrounding area with kozmos. My point is this figure out the meta game and don't slack on your sideboard.
That's the best time ever for us budget players, hell, the best deck in the meta(my deck also), pendulum magicians, is 3 times cheaper than most other decks and wrecks everything, I've spend somethin in the lines of $100 into it (converting from the brazillian R$)
I think the people that always buy boxes don't realize that if they have a locals nearby, they can actually buy the singles and if they improve as players, be rewarded with sealed product. My locals does box tournaments every Saturday, and over the years, I've opened cases worth of boxes just by playing well and paying $10 for my entry. I've never felt the need to buy sealed product because if you try, and your OTS is good, you can win whatever you want to open. Singles over sealed is definitely the way to go, and I feel if more people realized you could open product this way, the majority would just go with singles
As a fresh player this video was great for me, it'd actually be awesome if you could do a budget deck profile series, since you mentioned ABC's would love to see a deck profile on them. Since I already have one kaiba structure deck, do I just get 2 more of them and combine em up or something? I wouldn't know, noob life :')
I'm a casual player, I've bought packs a couple times knowing well I may not get anything good but usually I get a few useful things. Most of the cards I own came from buying people's bulk for a ridiculously low price. I paid $40 recently for 5 empty booster boxes (full of cards) , 3 ancient duel tins and another bigger tin all full of cards, rares, commons, staples. Even had lots of colour sleeved sections of cards for different decks he had already assembled. And all these were almost full of cards!! I got many many cards this way I had almost bought online instead. I did do one online order but that's just to get some specifics I knew I'd get my money's worth out of. But now with all the cards I have, I have wayyy more than enough to build decks and have fun with decent cards of all sorts of archetypes and different spells/traps. I even got some shiny Red-Eyes fusions from the lot to just add into the red eyes deck I already had 🤷🏼♀️. It was worth the money just to read and hold the 1000 new cards I haven't seen before! Including some cards that literally made me laugh cause they had "WTF" sort of effects 😂
I'm thinking of getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh again. The last time I played seriously was the XYZ era, where I played a Malefic Virus Control deck. That was before skill drain and eradicator got hit, though. Unfortunately, when I quit Yu-Gi-Oh, I left all my cards with my friend, so I don't have any cards. I'm thinking of building a budget Diabolos deck with Virus Control support, since it's the most similar to the last deck I played, and it's pretty cheap too.
I totally agree on not buying boxes if you are trying to get a certain card but they can be fun to open. If you just collect the cards and barely play than boxes are what make it fun.
All of what you said actually make a whole lot of sense. Nothing that I can really think of that would be wrong. It's true that a lot of people say "This card does the same thing" and it's like yeah... but thay cost isn't good for every deck. Not every deck can pitch 2 cards from the hand and have it not actually be a cost and blah blah the list goes on for every time those words are said. And packs and stuff are quite the gamble, but ya know, somebody has to buy them. Doesn't have to be you, especially if you're on a budget, but somebody will. All and all your points made are clear and make sense.
I'm a budget player and I would recommend to any budget player to try flower cardians, most of the archetype cost less the 20 cents and the expensive cards are really just Soul charge, allure of darkness and raigaki -replace this with lightning vortex if raigaki is to expensive- don't worry to much on the extra, just grab the archetype syncros and it will end up a little above 20 dollars
Same. I just built a blue eyes deck with 0 copies of Alternative for my friend so he can play against my Monarchs. It wins ~20% of the time vs crippled Monarchs, and this is a lot better than the 0% win-chance he had with his thrown together random 60 card deck. So we are both super happy with this ~20$ investment. :)
Completely agree. If you want to get into Yugioh on the cheap, now is the time to do it! Cards are on a pretty good decline in price overall right now, plus you can make a lot of older deck for around 20-30 bucks and with some choice tech cards can be ~relatively~ relevant again.
Completely unrelated, but I really enjoyed playing card destruction defensively. Like setting it and then forcing the opponent to drop 2 cards at inopportune moments. Didn't come up that much, but every now and then I'd hit something important.
I'm currently in the process of building my new version of Necromill to take to an event. With the Pot of Desires reprint it makes the deck a lot more viable. in testing i've had 4 ragequits so far over a first turn soul Absorption into Gold Sarc > Necroface for clean pluses along with +5.5k lp. Plus it's a hella fun deck to play and makes easy Ancient Fairy Dragons that every deck cries after these days too. Plus it's still a pretty budget deck. I think the extra is still pretty pricey
I was at a regional with Six Samurai beatdown. I had only commons, no bling, no extra deck except a structure deck XYZ for six sam. My goal, was to board crush. My ace in the hole was The A. Forces. I won a few rounds, got an invite.
buying core staples is so important, back when spyrals were a shitty table 500 deck you could get the core for a crisp 20 but the staples pushed the price up like crazy
I want to be the very best, the best duelist that ever was. But I am low on money, and can't afford. The best decks are that do exist. I will travel across the land, searching far and wide. It is Dzeeff to understand, that there are cheap decks outside. Yu-Gi-Oh! It's time to duel'em all. It's just you and me Your cheap deck is no match for me. Yu-Gi-Oh! It's time to duel'em all. Oh SPYRALs you were my best friend. Until you met your untimely end. Yu-Gi-Oh! It's time to duel'em all. The Meta is so true, the rage inside me will pull me through. You were cheating, and now I am cheating. Yu-Gi-Oh! It's time to duel'em all. It's time to duel'em all. Yu-Gi-Oh!
I managed to put together a workable lunalight deck for under 50 dollars, I don't expect to win any tournaments, but locals are within reach. I know some people think the archetype is garbage even as a rogue deck, but others say it isn't that bad. I know you think fluffals are better though, and I've played against them enough to see why. I do understand card advantage (from MTG) and my deck goes pretty negative due to being fusion, less so with the new support but enough to feel like a disadvantage. Losing fusions hurts. That doesn't mean I don't win enough to feel satisfied, though. Totally understand where you're coming from from the competitive perspective however. I'd describe myself as casual but I still don't mind dueling 'my betters', just so I can learn from them and how other archetypes work. The game is hella complex and I've only gotten started.
I spent ~$70 building a Fluffal deck from scratch. It's not meta, but it can be somewhat competitive, and it uses generic fusion cards such as poly, fusion recovery, and king of the swamp, as well as some other generics such as mst/cosmis cyclone and quaking mirror force (built before links, shoulda done storming). Only reason it was even as much as $70 was because I bought all at highest/second highest rarity. Easily could be a $40 deck that's fun to play and respectably strong.
I can only think of a few things that you need to know as a budget Yugioh! player. I've compiled them into a short list: 1) You will lose. 2) Seriously, you will lose. 3) Give up on your dreams, play Hearthstone or Vanguard instead. In all seriousness, I I played budget for an awful long time. I played things like Karakuris after they'd been released as tin promos and burei and bureido were about one Canadian penny a piece, I played this hilarious ghostrick build that actually broke the over time rules by healing yourself to claim victory in over-time and it's hilarious. I even played Ojamas, and back before link summoning changed absolutely everything, let me tell you that I was the king of Rogue Tier back then. But that's the thing - rogue tier. You can't possibly have competitive decks without going broke or having enough to shell out for these objectively better cards. Back in the day, I could beat some of the popular decks with my Ojamas. I even took out Noble Knights back when they had their support and were deemed by high-level players to be actually pretty good, and even won a single match against bujin, which I think is a pretty substantial achievement. But, lightsworns? Burning Abyss? Shaddolls? That shit destroyed me SO bad. It's completely hopeless. I'd compare it to Dark Souls if the analogy weren't already played out too much, and, you know... Dark Souls is actually possible to win. Hell, when Anjelly came out for Madolches, they were able to OTK my Ojamas by turn 2, and I have to say that my Ojamas were probably the most refined, most powerful, and probably the most fun deck that I'd ever built.
I only buy boxes because i want more random cards so i can build other decks as well. I want my friends to be able to come over and pick out any deck they want and have a pool of cards to modify it.
I play Hand Destruction in Nimble Fairy Synchro, since they want to just cycle and mill like 1/2 tier deck to the graveyard, but Desires sends the few tuners in the deck (which are important to synch Celestial Double Star Shaman, then get some level 8s. I also play it in Rainbow Neos Synchro since they NEED to cycle their deck to grab their Neos, Rainbow Dragon and Poly.
Investing into decks that aren't necessarily dominating but are good is basically the best thing to get out of this. I built BA when it came out and played it this year at the WCQ. Did I top? No. Did I do decent? Yeah, I think so. Also, pay attention to the market and the OCG. I knew Desires was gonna be both good and controversial, so I picked mine up just before a major event and got them for less than €35; a week later they spiked to €90. Also, play a deck you like and try to make it competitive. Yeah, GK still kinda blows, but if all you do is play at local level, then you may be able to sneak some wins with it. I got my invite with PSY-Frame during Zoo and D/D/D / ABC / Blue-Eyes format; not the best deck, but it worked (Not saying that was a great buy, I spent way too much on a mediocre rogue deck).
If you haven't already you should do a deck build series/video covering engines, hand advantage etc. to help newbies understand a bit better. Also while I understand how terrible packs are I still want to know: as a Six Samurai player is it worth me picking up a few of the Spirit Warriors packs when they drop to see how good the new Shadow Six Samurai are (having read the effects of the OCG cards; they're pretty decent) as well as to get the 2 Six Samurai United, 2 Shien's Smoke Signals and 1 Kizan I need to help finish my deck.?Bearing in mind that the cheapest I could get my last Kizan for is ~£13 (~$17). I'm assuming no, and that I should just wait to see how the prices end up (Common Kizan from a booster is likely to end up cheap).
dzeeff UK Amazon. Have yet to pay for a Kizan outside of Samurai Warlords when that structure came out (regret not getting 3) and a pull from Storm of Ragnarök when I started playing again after a hiatus of a few years.
the other thing that helps is being able to trade up your not so good cards. i traded a melodious deck for an ash blossom at the maximum crisis sneak peek, and i got a second the following week with some other stuff i needed for a handful of cards i wasn't using. you could argue that i "ripped them off" but they were fine with the trade, there was no money involved, and everyone walked away happy. besides, it'll be a great investment if/when the tcg gets that melodious brilliant fusion type spell that's been stuck in the ocg for a year or so.
Spend an initial investment on a deck that will generate some wins (the ones Doug mentioned,) go to your locals and accumulate credit then buy other staples and things that become relevant as you go.
I'm a budget player and what I want to hear is what structure deck should I try to find 3 of to buy at present time, bonus points if there's a dragon or spellcaster themed one that's good.
In my personal opinion (on sealed products), if you buy one make sure you will, for sure, get cards they need, and there is no better deal anywhere else
It's not pay to win, its think to win. Look at the tier 2 decks and see what you like, what firts your play style. Swap twin twisters for MST, solemn's for mirror force (not the og) and raigeki for dark hole. Get a slower engin for cheep and like the video says, slowly build it up. All round great video, YuGiOh doesn't have to be pricy if you're smart about it and this video has a lot of tips I wish I'd known when I started trying to buy cards as singles especially. So many decks I looked past because I thought they needed pricy staple cards when the base in 50 bucks, you choose an engin that fits it (or play without one if really necessary) and choose the cheeper cards. Choose commons, not rares and you'll only end up paying around that 50 mark? Don't expect to start with a tier one deck.
Read Richards sometimes that 10 bucks can be put into buying a better deck core, easier to buy the best deck core possible and use worse traps and spells. Far pricier to change deck cores later?
I suppose you are correct when it comes to thr budget point but if you are spending your money on other things instead of better staples when the difference is a mere 10 dollars you shouldn't be in a position to complain about the prices
This was helpful for me as an old player who hasn't played in years and would like to get back into it. Duel links is the only way i do that now. Do you have any suggestions for someone looking to find a community to play with?
i might be wrong about this but twe two cheapest ways to get cards are #1 buying cards from someone who is quiting or getting rid of some of their cards! you can get decent playable dcks for cheap! you can occasionally get freeies here! 2, trading... lots and lots of trading, where you can slowly get better and better cards from trades! all you have to do is to trade cards from 1 set, for a nearly equivlent card fom another, and you can get a lot of value from that!
True talk...I'm a lifer cyber dragon player off and on since the beginning got back into it when cybernetic horizon came out and bought a box pulled one cyber dragon card tried to sell the entire box back the game store would only take like 20 bucks for brand ass new cards never again will always but what I kno I am getting forsure
I like the game but im more invested in mtg. The closest thing I have to a "viable deck" is a fire king deck made by buying three structure deck. I also bought the dark world structure deck. Can any of these compete with improvements and whch cards should I buy? Im fine buying like one or two expensive cards but I do not know which
I live in Canada, i tried to use websites to buy cards 1 by 1 rather then packs and noticed that nothing ships to Canada. So i buy packs because all websites suck ass to me.
You have a valid point but sadly the pack opening is differnt of watching and doing, that new card smell also it will be a higher chance that it won't be fake. Also you'll never know if those other cards will ever be useful to you ar for trade.
hey my dude, I just play yugioh as a fun casual game with mates to fit in with other games we play. Any thoughts on expanding my variety or whatever or would majority of ideas apply here too?
This video is the embodiment of my mindset as a broke college student that plays yugioh. By simply being patient I’ve managed to get mermails, lightsworn, pendulum magicians, masked heroes, and pretty much every staple with the exception of the expensive hand traps. I always do well at locals and have never spent over $100 on a deck. It’s totally possible to do well on a budget.
@@Dzeeff Yeah I've been looking into them and they look super sick. I used to play a wetlands beatdown deck back in high school and I've been playing it with proxy Toadally Awesome to try and get the hang of all the rules again. One of my magic buddies built a Wight deck and we've been having a lot of fun with it. ^^
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I played Hand Destruction and I won my local tournament.
Darn you must be a good player
Cimoooooooo lol
I run the left leg of exodia.
you are cimoooooooo after all 😂
Realy
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maxie fuqua that is what I want to hear
Omg send me the link plz
I played my local tournament and won hand destruction
I won card tournament and played my local destruction
Count it
I played myself and lost my local tournament.
Congratulations
Lmao
I played hand destruction and I won my local tournament
cardboardlife Inn4 u beat me too it again lol
cardboardlife what’s the reference
YGO FissureNation it's a line from the vid
Humorr_ yeah I just saw it lmao
How did this comment beat Cimo's in terms of number of likes? (He even properly capitalized "Hand Destruction" and even put a period at the end of his sentence!) O_o
I played brilliant fusion and lost my local tournament
TheSpriteStory LIES LIES LIES LIES
The most important thing about budget player is GET FRIENDS...Friends are a powerful tool in this game, since they can help you get cards.
Don't be shy and interact with people in your local store, they can give you some advice about deckbuilding, and the most important thing... you have a sparring partner.
Sparring? You're not training for a fight, you're playing a card game.
The funny thing is that it sounds dumb, but it's true , and simple.
Also trade with the right people, if you have the right cards for the right people, you can get some high value or rare cards that you need.
It's a fight with trading cards for children XD
Bucket Suu steel sharpens steel that applies to anything that requires practice regardless of what it is
I destroyed the cards in my opponents hand and was banned from my local tournament
*Takes opponents two cards* - *Tears them apart*
Budget replacement for ash: axe of despair
WOW
shuheb987654321 Maybe Effect Veiler
Whiptail Crow is nice
No axe of fools
sd sd hell yeah whiptail crow is, it can attach itself to a pre-existing xyz zoodiac
I just realized while watching this that Ash Blossom has legs. No joke I never noticed before
Because half of the card is taken up by forehead.
I always end up noticing really weird stuff about card art in these videos. Like Abyss Dwaller was the biggest one for me. I honestly never knew it was a dragon and I've probably spent the last 5 years or whatever looking at that card.
Amani Jones
Ash has legs.
Floris Gaming I'm pretty sure he said that
Noobie2k7 dweller is a dragon? My life is a lie...
I believe that you should also test the deck online as best you can before buying it instead of just buying it just because it’s good. No matter how good a deck is, if you’re bad it it, and you can’t play that kind of deck, you just wasted some money unless you can trade it
Eric LeBow What do you mean "if you're bad at it"? I understand not initially knowing how to play it, but it's a card game. All you need to do is learn the combos. Playing the deck isn't a skill-oriented thing.
+Bucket Suu
Oh, I'd disagree. Let's not pretend like you can just autopilot this shit. Jumping the gun, hesitating under fire, coming undone by an oversight in the plan, lacking observance of your opponent's side of the field (I've lost count of the amount of times my finishing blow's been rudely interrupted by Fairy Tail -Snow), if you just expect the combo to play itself, you'll only be left in the dust.
Not to mention adaptability. If you play anything that's made big in Tournaments, you better have a good idea how to customize it, because those are the decks with the most crosshairs drawn on them. Lightsworn might be viable, but that's why my Hero deck packs a Dark Law. Kaijus are a popular removal-play, but that's why graveyard bounce-back is so pivotal to the game. Especially if you're playing on a budget among just friends, it's those people that know your deck the best and many times me and my friend have ended up building decks in an endless feedback-war of countering each others' counter-tactics.
AlluMan96 Those are all things that rely on an individual's skill. Planning around the current meta, not overcommitting, managing resources, etc. None of those have anything to do with the actual decks. I'm not saying anything about auto-piloting. It's just that the game isn't complicated. People should generally know what the optimal play is, unless they're just picking up the deck.
Yeah. It was just the "Playing a deck isn't a skill-oriented thing" that rubbed me the wrong way and might've just misinterpreted what you meant with that. I do agree that the "what" in playing the deck is a rather straight-forward answer. Even if you're picking the thing up for the first time, anyone that's played Yu-Gi-Oh for a while should be able to crack it with a bit of cross-examination, finding the win-condition and seeing which dots connect point A to point B. In fact, that should be the first thing you do, is figure out the deck's win-condition, because without that, you really can't customize it well at all, which is always an important part for me, as someone who usually builds decks on intuition and "See if this works" whims (For the record; Not a competitive player).
AlluMan96 That's mainly what I meant. There shouldn't be a scenario in which you can't figure out how a deck works.
I wish I could say I played Jerry Beans Man and won my local tournament.
But at least I own a copy.
i played a jerry beans man won a duel links match
Unban Pot of Greed
Problem solved
or
just don't
Unbanning the most broken card ever? seems fair to me
pedro da rosa mello 2 words.
Mystical refpanel
But what does Pot of Greed do?
Axel HZ i play jar robber!
I played Hand Destruction and I don't get this running gag.
KeineLustEinenFakenamenZuErfinden watch the video
Thank you for making this video. I am a budget player, and I really appreciate your insight on how to get the best value for your dollar.
I wish you made this video when I was in community college three years ago. This is what I've been doing for the past two years and it's helped my collection of competitive decks
I played pot of generosity and I won my local tournament
I'm confident that some random mill deck
has done that before
I like how many of the full holographic booster boxes/packs, like BLLR and structure decks can make the vast-majority of a meta deck, while usin many staples to bridge the difference and/or budget alternatives. I purchased the Pendulum Evolution boxes and made 2 Pendulum Magician decks in 2017, which were both meta decks at the time. Same w/Dinosaur's Rage and Souldburner (Salamangreat's).
I destroyed my brain cells with pot, and desired to win my locals.
I played card destruction and I was disqualified from my local tournament
I played Hand Destruction and lost my local tournament. I wish I had just played Pot of Desires.
I still buy packs and it is for 3 reasons. 1. I like deck building so the additional cards can help with me building fun decks while I work on my primary deck. 2. I play the gamble to try to pull the card for less than the card's cost. 3. I like trading cards so having more options that I won't use let's me trade for things I want or think may have value later. I do see your point since most of my primary deck was bought through singles
i like opening packs, but i dont buy a high dollar deck because im not really gonna invest the time to play it. But as a collector a 50-100 dollar box is defs worth it.
I play with a structure deck that recently came out and I love it honestly. I love the borrel monsters
I played Hand Destruction and I won my local tournament
Honestly as a budget player I find it a lot of fun to mix up my strategy by trying to use other cards that aren’t “ideal”
Pfft pot of desiers can ever replace pot of greed #FreePotOfGreed
mmmmm yesss, freeee the greeeeed!
I think one of the strongest pieces of evidence for YGO becoming cheaper to play is that the most expensive cards in the game are no longer engine cards. This means the pieces of every deck that are necessary for it to be playable are affordable, and that the "competitive edge" cards are the ones that cost any real money.
You know... an amazing draw engine is using diamond dude and beggining of the end with either plaguespreader or edge imp sabers
you said it perfectly, mileage of a card is worth infinitely more than quantity
Watching this video in late 2018 and everything in it is still relevant. The only time I buy packs is every couple weeks or so my buddy and I will buy a pack or two when we go for our beer run on Saturday night. Just a little fun thing we do together. Aside from that 10 or so dollars spent every few weeks, all of my yugioh money is spent on singles for my decks.
Your video makes a fair point being a budget player myself, sure you can possibly make 3rd place at a regional level and if you're extremely lucky top 20 at worlds. The best advice I have ever gotten was look at the meta and find a way to break it.
When everyone was playing zoo I took a bunch of local tournaments in my surrounding area with kozmos. My point is this figure out the meta game and don't slack on your sideboard.
5:09 there's like seven pixels in this picture
That's the best time ever for us budget players, hell, the best deck in the meta(my deck also), pendulum magicians, is 3 times cheaper than most other decks and wrecks everything, I've spend somethin in the lines of $100 into it (converting from the brazillian R$)
I think the people that always buy boxes don't realize that if they have a locals nearby, they can actually buy the singles and if they improve as players, be rewarded with sealed product. My locals does box tournaments every Saturday, and over the years, I've opened cases worth of boxes just by playing well and paying $10 for my entry. I've never felt the need to buy sealed product because if you try, and your OTS is good, you can win whatever you want to open. Singles over sealed is definitely the way to go, and I feel if more people realized you could open product this way, the majority would just go with singles
I don't care how budget it gets, I'm just gonna play online tbh I'm not good enough to spend that much money on it
As a fresh player this video was great for me, it'd actually be awesome if you could do a budget deck profile series, since you mentioned ABC's would love to see a deck profile on them. Since I already have one kaiba structure deck, do I just get 2 more of them and combine em up or something? I wouldn't know, noob life :')
I'm a casual player, I've bought packs a couple times knowing well I may not get anything good but usually I get a few useful things. Most of the cards I own came from buying people's bulk for a ridiculously low price. I paid $40 recently for 5 empty booster boxes (full of cards) , 3 ancient duel tins and another bigger tin all full of cards, rares, commons, staples. Even had lots of colour sleeved sections of cards for different decks he had already assembled. And all these were almost full of cards!! I got many many cards this way I had almost bought online instead.
I did do one online order but that's just to get some specifics I knew I'd get my money's worth out of. But now with all the cards I have, I have wayyy more than enough to build decks and have fun with decent cards of all sorts of archetypes and different spells/traps. I even got some shiny Red-Eyes fusions from the lot to just add into the red eyes deck I already had 🤷🏼♀️. It was worth the money just to read and hold the 1000 new cards I haven't seen before! Including some cards that literally made me laugh cause they had "WTF" sort of effects 😂
I'm thinking of getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh again. The last time I played seriously was the XYZ era, where I played a Malefic Virus Control deck. That was before skill drain and eradicator got hit, though. Unfortunately, when I quit Yu-Gi-Oh, I left all my cards with my friend, so I don't have any cards. I'm thinking of building a budget Diabolos deck with Virus Control support, since it's the most similar to the last deck I played, and it's pretty cheap too.
You are absolutely right, more accessible reprints and better structure decks helps immensely. All we have to do is be patient. 👍
I totally agree on not buying boxes if you are trying to get a certain card but they can be fun to open. If you just collect the cards and barely play than boxes are what make it fun.
All of what you said actually make a whole lot of sense. Nothing that I can really think of that would be wrong. It's true that a lot of people say "This card does the same thing" and it's like yeah... but thay cost isn't good for every deck. Not every deck can pitch 2 cards from the hand and have it not actually be a cost and blah blah the list goes on for every time those words are said. And packs and stuff are quite the gamble, but ya know, somebody has to buy them. Doesn't have to be you, especially if you're on a budget, but somebody will. All and all your points made are clear and make sense.
I'm a budget player and I would recommend to any budget player to try flower cardians, most of the archetype cost less the 20 cents and the expensive cards are really just Soul charge, allure of darkness and raigaki -replace this with lightning vortex if raigaki is to expensive- don't worry to much on the extra, just grab the archetype syncros and it will end up a little above 20 dollars
Can you make a list of all the best engines in yugioh? E.g invoked, wind witch, spellbook, true Draco, artifact, brilliant fusion etc.
IntentionaI, prediplant is another and is generally cheep. Plus you can shove in a few decks?
I played Pot of Desires and decked out at my local tournament :3
Take it from me: I've been playing Frogs for five years. Frogs have amazing value and you can build it a ton of different ways
Tfw you're so budget that paying 11 dollars for a Deskbot deck was suuuper expensive to you. Yes, im that budget :P
I'm so budget I consider $5 Solemn Strike to be way too expensive. :p
sAME.
I refuse to buy a card over 1 dollar because its too expensive XD
Alec Rousseau I play Dino. It's from three of the structure, normally $30 total, but my local card shop sells them for $5, so I only spent $15.
Same. I just built a blue eyes deck with 0 copies of Alternative for my friend so he can play against my Monarchs.
It wins ~20% of the time vs crippled Monarchs, and this is a lot better than the 0% win-chance he had with his thrown together random 60 card deck. So we are both super happy with this ~20$ investment. :)
*sitting here with my 500$ magic deck*
*Oh*
I played at my local tournament and won a Hand Destruction.
Completely agree. If you want to get into Yugioh on the cheap, now is the time to do it! Cards are on a pretty good decline in price overall right now, plus you can make a lot of older deck for around 20-30 bucks and with some choice tech cards can be ~relatively~ relevant again.
Mega-packs are still good value despite being random sealed product, right? Looking forward to the new all-foil Kaiba mega packs
We get it my mans, you love BRILLIANT FUSION.
Completely unrelated, but I really enjoyed playing card destruction defensively. Like setting it and then forcing the opponent to drop 2 cards at inopportune moments. Didn't come up that much, but every now and then I'd hit something important.
I'm currently in the process of building my new version of Necromill to take to an event. With the Pot of Desires reprint it makes the deck a lot more viable. in testing i've had 4 ragequits so far over a first turn soul Absorption into Gold Sarc > Necroface for clean pluses along with +5.5k lp. Plus it's a hella fun deck to play and makes easy Ancient Fairy Dragons that every deck cries after these days too. Plus it's still a pretty budget deck. I think the extra is still pretty pricey
I was at a regional with Six Samurai beatdown. I had only commons, no bling, no extra deck except a structure deck XYZ for six sam. My goal, was to board crush. My ace in the hole was The A. Forces. I won a few rounds, got an invite.
I played Hand Tournament and I won my local destruction.
buying core staples is so important, back when spyrals were a shitty table 500 deck you could get the core for a crisp 20 but the staples pushed the price up like crazy
Thanks for the advice, what decks other than frogs, mermails, and lightsworns do u recommend?
I want to be the very best, the best duelist that ever was.
But I am low on money, and can't afford. The best decks are that do exist.
I will travel across the land, searching far and wide.
It is Dzeeff to understand, that there are cheap decks outside.
Yu-Gi-Oh! It's time to duel'em all.
It's just you and me
Your cheap deck is no match for me.
Yu-Gi-Oh! It's time to duel'em all.
Oh SPYRALs you were my best friend.
Until you met your untimely end.
Yu-Gi-Oh! It's time to duel'em all.
The Meta is so true, the rage inside me will pull me through.
You were cheating, and now I am cheating.
Yu-Gi-Oh!
It's time to duel'em all.
It's time to duel'em all.
Yu-Gi-Oh!
Dante Memora the wording on this is atrocious
+Steven Cartgena Well thank you. tbh I ran out of idea lol
Dude epic
I thought it was pretty good.
It's hard to sing it in this way. You need to make the length of the spoken words kind of similiar to the original one xD
I managed to put together a workable lunalight deck for under 50 dollars, I don't expect to win any tournaments, but locals are within reach. I know some people think the archetype is garbage even as a rogue deck, but others say it isn't that bad. I know you think fluffals are better though, and I've played against them enough to see why. I do understand card advantage (from MTG) and my deck goes pretty negative due to being fusion, less so with the new support but enough to feel like a disadvantage. Losing fusions hurts.
That doesn't mean I don't win enough to feel satisfied, though. Totally understand where you're coming from from the competitive perspective however. I'd describe myself as casual but I still don't mind dueling 'my betters', just so I can learn from them and how other archetypes work. The game is hella complex and I've only gotten started.
This man predicted the future
But Dzeeff
Rare Value and Pot of Desires aren't worth jack shit
DADDY GAMECIEL just buy gold rare no one wants them lol
Gamzee Makara give me your gold rares lol. I'll show them the love u can't
CreagDog2 You will be the very first "Heart of the gold rares" player!
I spent ~$70 building a Fluffal deck from scratch. It's not meta, but it can be somewhat competitive, and it uses generic fusion cards such as poly, fusion recovery, and king of the swamp, as well as some other generics such as mst/cosmis cyclone and quaking mirror force (built before links, shoulda done storming). Only reason it was even as much as $70 was because I bought all at highest/second highest rarity. Easily could be a $40 deck that's fun to play and respectably strong.
I can only think of a few things that you need to know as a budget Yugioh! player. I've compiled them into a short list:
1) You will lose.
2) Seriously, you will lose.
3) Give up on your dreams, play Hearthstone or Vanguard instead.
In all seriousness, I I played budget for an awful long time. I played things like Karakuris after they'd been released as tin promos and burei and bureido were about one Canadian penny a piece, I played this hilarious ghostrick build that actually broke the over time rules by healing yourself to claim victory in over-time and it's hilarious. I even played Ojamas, and back before link summoning changed absolutely everything, let me tell you that I was the king of Rogue Tier back then.
But that's the thing - rogue tier. You can't possibly have competitive decks without going broke or having enough to shell out for these objectively better cards. Back in the day, I could beat some of the popular decks with my Ojamas. I even took out Noble Knights back when they had their support and were deemed by high-level players to be actually pretty good, and even won a single match against bujin, which I think is a pretty substantial achievement.
But, lightsworns? Burning Abyss? Shaddolls? That shit destroyed me SO bad. It's completely hopeless. I'd compare it to Dark Souls if the analogy weren't already played out too much, and, you know... Dark Souls is actually possible to win. Hell, when Anjelly came out for Madolches, they were able to OTK my Ojamas by turn 2, and I have to say that my Ojamas were probably the most refined, most powerful, and probably the most fun deck that I'd ever built.
Remember when everyone thought Duelist Saga was the greatest reprint set of all time?
For a long time I was a Budget Player for a while, but recently I dropped I think 70 on a Pendulum Magician Deck, and have progressively built on it
why buy cards at all? i just print the card pictures out put some thin wood behind them and bam
you are right but what about if i want them holos :c
And I'm still here using giant stone cards
I only buy boxes because i want more random cards so i can build other decks as well. I want my friends to be able to come over and pick out any deck they want and have a pool of cards to modify it.
I play Hand Destruction in Nimble Fairy Synchro, since they want to just cycle and mill like 1/2 tier deck to the graveyard, but Desires sends the few tuners in the deck (which are important to synch Celestial Double Star Shaman, then get some level 8s. I also play it in Rainbow Neos Synchro since they NEED to cycle their deck to grab their Neos, Rainbow Dragon and Poly.
I played Hand Destruction and I won my local tournament.
But it was long time ago and I played Magical Explosion FTK
Investing into decks that aren't necessarily dominating but are good is basically the best thing to get out of this. I built BA when it came out and played it this year at the WCQ. Did I top? No. Did I do decent? Yeah, I think so. Also, pay attention to the market and the OCG. I knew Desires was gonna be both good and controversial, so I picked mine up just before a major event and got them for less than €35; a week later they spiked to €90.
Also, play a deck you like and try to make it competitive. Yeah, GK still kinda blows, but if all you do is play at local level, then you may be able to sneak some wins with it. I got my invite with PSY-Frame during Zoo and D/D/D / ABC / Blue-Eyes format; not the best deck, but it worked (Not saying that was a great buy, I spent way too much on a mediocre rogue deck).
Hand Destruction might help out an exodia deck that has a pretty good defense.
If you haven't already you should do a deck build series/video covering engines, hand advantage etc. to help newbies understand a bit better.
Also while I understand how terrible packs are I still want to know: as a Six Samurai player is it worth me picking up a few of the Spirit Warriors packs when they drop to see how good the new Shadow Six Samurai are (having read the effects of the OCG cards; they're pretty decent) as well as to get the 2 Six Samurai United, 2 Shien's Smoke Signals and 1 Kizan I need to help finish my deck.?Bearing in mind that the cheapest I could get my last Kizan for is ~£13 (~$17). I'm assuming no, and that I should just wait to see how the prices end up (Common Kizan from a booster is likely to end up cheap).
I'm not sure why you paid so much for Kizan? Looking online right now there's a whole bunch for $3
dzeeff UK Amazon. Have yet to pay for a Kizan outside of Samurai Warlords when that structure came out (regret not getting 3) and a pull from Storm of Ragnarök when I started playing again after a hiatus of a few years.
I played hand destruction, so I had to call the ambulance to my local tournament to fix my hand
the other thing that helps is being able to trade up your not so good cards. i traded a melodious deck for an ash blossom at the maximum crisis sneak peek, and i got a second the following week with some other stuff i needed for a handful of cards i wasn't using. you could argue that i "ripped them off" but they were fine with the trade, there was no money involved, and everyone walked away happy. besides, it'll be a great investment if/when the tcg gets that melodious brilliant fusion type spell that's been stuck in the ocg for a year or so.
Six Samurai will forever and always be my go to Deck
Spend an initial investment on a deck that will generate some wins (the ones Doug mentioned,) go to your locals and accumulate credit then buy other staples and things that become relevant as you go.
I'm a budget player and what I want to hear is what structure deck should I try to find 3 of to buy at present time, bonus points if there's a dragon or spellcaster themed one that's good.
In my personal opinion (on sealed products), if you buy one make sure you will, for sure, get cards they need, and there is no better deal anywhere else
It's not pay to win, its think to win. Look at the tier 2 decks and see what you like, what firts your play style. Swap twin twisters for MST, solemn's for mirror force (not the og) and raigeki for dark hole. Get a slower engin for cheep and like the video says, slowly build it up.
All round great video, YuGiOh doesn't have to be pricy if you're smart about it and this video has a lot of tips I wish I'd known when I started trying to buy cards as singles especially. So many decks I looked past because I thought they needed pricy staple cards when the base in 50 bucks, you choose an engin that fits it (or play without one if really necessary) and choose the cheeper cards. Choose commons, not rares and you'll only end up paying around that 50 mark? Don't expect to start with a tier one deck.
Codi Watson it was like 15 bucks for a playset of strikes at one point. I think it's worth the extra 10 for better cards
Read Richards sometimes that 10 bucks can be put into buying a better deck core, easier to buy the best deck core possible and use worse traps and spells. Far pricier to change deck cores later?
Read Richards there's also the point of limited budget, maybe they don't have that extra 10
I suppose you are correct when it comes to thr budget point but if you are spending your money on other things instead of better staples when the difference is a mere 10 dollars you shouldn't be in a position to complain about the prices
Also local level deck cores are fairly cheap and staples tend to stay relevant for a few formats before becoming suboptimal
I played hand destruction at my school and it got shot up.
Bro I'm sry I didn't subscribe earlier been loving your videos for some time ^^> purple swang
This was helpful for me as an old player who hasn't played in years and would like to get back into it. Duel links is the only way i do that now. Do you have any suggestions for someone looking to find a community to play with?
i might be wrong about this but twe two cheapest ways to get cards are
#1 buying cards from someone who is quiting or getting rid of some of their cards! you can get decent playable dcks for cheap! you can occasionally get freeies here!
2, trading... lots and lots of trading, where you can slowly get better and better cards from trades! all you have to do is to trade cards from 1 set, for a nearly equivlent card fom another, and you can get a lot of value from that!
I played tournament and won my local hand destruction
True talk...I'm a lifer cyber dragon player off and on since the beginning got back into it when cybernetic horizon came out and bought a box pulled one cyber dragon card tried to sell the entire box back the game store would only take like 20 bucks for brand ass new cards never again will always but what I kno I am getting forsure
I like the game but im more invested in mtg. The closest thing I have to a "viable deck" is a fire king deck made by buying three structure deck. I also bought the dark world structure deck. Can any of these compete with improvements and whch cards should I buy? Im fine buying like one or two expensive cards but I do not know which
R.I.P. Dinos we gonna miss you
I played Pot of Desires and won my Local Tournament
I watch dzeff's videos at 1.5 speed. It's so much better.
I live in Canada, i tried to use websites to buy cards 1 by 1 rather then packs and noticed that nothing ships to Canada. So i buy packs because all websites suck ass to me.
what about shard of greed? its basicly a jar of greed but the effect is delayed
You have a valid point but sadly the pack opening is differnt of watching and doing, that new card smell also it will be a higher chance that it won't be fake. Also you'll never know if those other cards will ever be useful to you ar for trade.
I just want the OCG rarity system.
That's all
I SHOULD be playing hand destruction to win my local tournament
By activating it during your turn when the opponen'ts deck is 2 or less?
hey my dude, I just play yugioh as a fun casual game with mates to fit in with other games we play. Any thoughts on expanding my variety or whatever or would majority of ideas apply here too?
This video is the embodiment of my mindset as a broke college student that plays yugioh. By simply being patient I’ve managed to get mermails, lightsworn, pendulum magicians, masked heroes, and pretty much every staple with the exception of the expensive hand traps. I always do well at locals and have never spent over $100 on a deck. It’s totally possible to do well on a budget.
I'm a sucker for booster packs, because I get a kind of rush opening them. But I tend to do it less since my friends showed me cardmarket.
It is a game after all, packs are fun and you can find new strategies or arch types you wouldn’t think of
One time i bought two 5 card packs for 8 dollars and got Ash Blossom
Getting back into yugioh after not having played it in like 6 years, finding out that my old Swap Frogs and Dupe Frogs aged well ^^
They have! I highly recommend Frog Paleozoics if you're getting back into the game :)
@@Dzeeff Yeah I've been looking into them and they look super sick. I used to play a wetlands beatdown deck back in high school and I've been playing it with proxy Toadally Awesome to try and get the hang of all the rules again. One of my magic buddies built a Wight deck and we've been having a lot of fun with it. ^^
If you go the dirt cheap angle and skimp on the extra deck you could probably build Lightsworn for like 30 lol.
Is Pot of Desires really that expensive?
I got a box full of random cards for like 10 bucks and there was a Pot of Desires in there
When this video was made, sure. Now? No. lol