Nice to see a 28XX in Brunswick Green usually watching them pulling coal trains thru Old Oak Common in the 60s they were very grimy Ive seen them on Welsh passenger trains usually if a Warship or Hymek thumper has failed
Having volunteered at Toddington in the early days of the line, I've now watched both signalling videos and have found them informative and very well presented and edited - an excellent depiction of the working of these fascinating steam era boxes. I am trying to replicate in a small way some of these things for model railways, so learning more from these about the Tyler instruments and opening and closing the boxes has been particularly interesting. Thanks for making these wonderful films.
Thank you for your positive comments John. Always appreciated. I had a good time filming them with Robin and my two 12 year old grand children filmed some of the exterior shots. Have a look at the FARSAP web pages. They have a lot of videos on signal boxes. Some I edited for them. View Tenterden which includes Tyers instruments. Good luck with your layout.
Very informative - thanks! I'm a volunteer signalman at Consall on the Churnet Valley Line, where my (simpler!) box controls a passing loop in the station. It;s as yet the only box on the line (though there are several ground frames) so no bell codes, unfortunately.
i rmember watching a youtube video of the indian railways where this type of signalling is still used in day to day operations . i saw where a very thin young indian man had to throw with all his might ,hanging on the signal levers with his legs up in the air as he flew across the signal box floor. lots of concentration going on there.
Good morning, it is not entirely clear to me whether the old instruments of the electric block with wooden case (Absolute block signaling) or those of the token block were, since ancient times, electrically connected to the red lever that switches the starting signal from Danger to Clear. In other words, in ancient times was it theoretically possible to pull the red lever of the starting signal without having obtained the release of the electric block? Thank you very much for your availability and collaboration
As you are a fan of signal boxes you may be interested in the FARSAP web site which has videos and informative descriptions on a lot of boxes in the UK. Some no longer in existence like Banbury North. There is a video there showing it working before it was demolished.
It's quite interesting for me to compare this box to the old electro-mechanical ones we had in Germany. The principle is quite similar, but from a technical point of view there are a lot of differences. This shows how a route for a departing train was set-up over here: ruclips.net/video/9o74rv90Hjk/видео.html The green box with the crank is the block device. It's also used for communication between signal boxes and to lock a route once it is set-up. Unlocking is done automatically once the train passes a certain track circuit. The red levers operate semaphores, the black ones are for points. Here's another gem: ruclips.net/video/31KCsDJPYag/видео.html This is another gem from 1951, which explains the automatic signalling of the Hamburg Elevated Railway. The automatically translated subtitles are hard to understand, but even without understanding anything it's more or less obvious what's happening.
Thank you. Interesting. You may like to have a look at the FARSAP web site. Lots of films about signalboxes in the UK. Some shot by signalman that worked those boxes.
@@delbyoung Another thing which might be of interest for you... I'm living near the Müngsten Bridge, which is the highest railway bridge in Germany at 107 metres, built in 1897. One weekend every year there's an anniversary celebration, and for that occasion the commuter trains passing the bridge are operated with steam locos and historic DMUs. -> ruclips.net/video/w3k2Si3sQLs/видео.html (the steam train has to pull a small diesel [a V100] to be able to clear the track in any case, as this is a quite busy mainline)
The signalman uses a rag because sweat/acid from his hands can rust the metal lever. The signal box can get warm with sun on the roof but there are usually plenty of windows to open.
One last thing... I see the controls have a first point, then a full throw point. WHat s the purpose of this? I see him move the control forward to a certain point, pause, then push it all the way to the final position.
The signalman looks at a dial during the first move which indicates that he is clear to continue. If you look further in the film you will see a dial with a swinging needle.
Nice to see a 28XX in Brunswick Green usually watching them pulling coal trains thru Old Oak Common in the 60s they were very grimy Ive seen them on Welsh passenger trains usually if a Warship or Hymek thumper has failed
Having volunteered at Toddington in the early days of the line, I've now watched both signalling videos and have found them informative and very well presented and edited - an excellent depiction of the working of these fascinating steam era boxes. I am trying to replicate in a small way some of these things for model railways, so learning more from these about the Tyler instruments and opening and closing the boxes has been particularly interesting. Thanks for making these wonderful films.
Thank you for your positive comments John. Always appreciated. I had a good time filming them with Robin and my two 12 year old grand children filmed some of the exterior shots. Have a look at the FARSAP web pages. They have a lot of videos on signal boxes. Some I edited for them. View Tenterden which includes Tyers instruments. Good luck with your layout.
Very informative - thanks! I'm a volunteer signalman at Consall on the Churnet Valley Line, where my (simpler!) box controls a passing loop in the station. It;s as yet the only box on the line (though there are several ground frames) so no bell codes, unfortunately.
I love trains they are interesting machines
i rmember watching a youtube video of the indian railways where this type of signalling is still used in day to day operations . i saw where a very thin young indian man had to throw with all his might ,hanging on the signal levers with his legs up in the air as he flew across the signal box floor. lots of concentration going on there.
It's still in use in the UK on many lines.
I am a train 🚆and I approve this video!!!
Thank you. Much appreciated. As the maker of this video with the help of Robin we tried to make it an accurate experience.
Good morning, it is not entirely clear to me whether the old instruments of the electric block with wooden case (Absolute block signaling) or those of the token block were, since ancient times, electrically connected to the red lever that switches the starting signal from Danger to Clear. In other words, in ancient times was it theoretically possible to pull the red lever of the starting signal without having obtained the release of the electric block? Thank you very much for your availability and collaboration
l am a big fan of British signal boxes! This job would be alot of fun once you knew what the hell you were doing!
As you are a fan of signal boxes you may be interested in the FARSAP web site which has videos and informative descriptions on a lot of boxes in the UK. Some no longer in existence like Banbury North. There is a video there showing it working before it was demolished.
Outstanding video question what are the tokens made out of looks like some type of steel?
It's quite interesting for me to compare this box to the old electro-mechanical ones we had in Germany. The principle is quite similar, but from a technical point of view there are a lot of differences. This shows how a route for a departing train was set-up over here:
ruclips.net/video/9o74rv90Hjk/видео.html
The green box with the crank is the block device. It's also used for communication between signal boxes and to lock a route once it is set-up. Unlocking is done automatically once the train passes a certain track circuit.
The red levers operate semaphores, the black ones are for points.
Here's another gem:
ruclips.net/video/31KCsDJPYag/видео.html
This is another gem from 1951, which explains the automatic signalling of the Hamburg Elevated Railway. The automatically translated subtitles are hard to understand, but even without understanding anything it's more or less obvious what's happening.
Thank you. Interesting. You may like to have a look at the FARSAP web site. Lots of films about signalboxes in the UK. Some shot by signalman that worked those boxes.
@@delbyoung That's a very interesting site. Thank you!
@@delbyoung Another thing which might be of interest for you... I'm living near the Müngsten Bridge, which is the highest railway bridge in Germany at 107 metres, built in 1897. One weekend every year there's an anniversary celebration, and for that occasion the commuter trains passing the bridge are operated with steam locos and historic DMUs.
-> ruclips.net/video/w3k2Si3sQLs/видео.html
(the steam train has to pull a small diesel [a V100] to be able to clear the track in any case, as this is a quite busy mainline)
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I note all these guys use a rag for switching. Is the switch box so hot they sweat? Grease?
The signalman uses a rag because sweat/acid from his hands can rust the metal lever. The signal box can get warm with sun on the roof but there are usually plenty of windows to open.
@@delbyoung Thanks for the quick, informative reply! Makes perfect sense.
One last thing... I see the controls have a first point, then a full throw point. WHat s the purpose of this? I see him move the control forward to a certain point, pause, then push it all the way to the final position.
The signalman looks at a dial during the first move which indicates that he is clear to continue. If you look further in the film you will see a dial with a swinging needle.
@@delbyoung Thanks for the quick, informative reply!
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