Excellent list and podcast, really pinpointed what I have to work on. Also, Lee's casual point about highlights always being on the edge of plane changes was mindblowing. Great work gents.
I have Lee's nursery rhyme "Little Lee White, teaches in school You just have to follow his rule Where planes change the slightest These edges are brightest And your drawing is looking cool!"
😄 Your poem is a cute idea. I'll try it too: Artist Lee White, instructs with delight, to those seeking his pearls of wisdom. This clever tip, tells you the trick, of where to insert highlights from: Look for the places, where planes change their faces - where the surfaces change in direction. This is the spot, where the light's the most hot, all else, in value's below them. Each corner and curve, in turn does deserve, a bright highlight of shining attention.
After listening to to your guys's descriptions of what each level looks like I had a suspicion of which one I am. Self-evaluating confirmed (at least in my opinion) I'm at level 6. I want to be 7 and 8 of course so I'm hoping that I'm close time-wise to get there soon
This whole time I thought the guy without glasses was Jake, but I guess it has been Lee all along. Pulled the ol’ switcheroo on me, guys. 😉 Those name banners really helped straighten me out though. 😅
Pretty sure you have to pick something so it will be able to charge you once the two weeks has passed, if you want to continue. As someone who's taken the classes before the new update, it is well worth the investment and super affordable compared to college tuition.
Love these podcasts but have always found it odd during the intro at the line that reads, ".....sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue....." . That just seems strange in that perhaps it is more like "disagree" rather than actually argue. You guys (and your guests) have always been professionals and seem to be that way beyond your art and its clearly evident in this series. I think you may disagree at times and it's always respectful and quite often in good fun. Love it! I would just like to comment here that I "respectfully disagree" with your choice for using the word "argue". All this nit picking aside,...you guys are the best and I love your content and guests each week. You are very generous with your time and willingness to share your expertise and experiences with those that come here to learn!
Proposal for a new opening script: Sometimes we agree, sometimes we respectfully disagree but are professional about it, and quite often it is all in good fun, but every time you learn something brand-spankin new. Thanks for the nit-pick Todd, glad to have you listening to us!
The intro uses the word 'argue' correctly. To 'argue' doesn't necessarily mean 'to fight' or be angry, or even annoyed. An argument is merely giving a reason supporting your idea. This can be done angrily, but it can also be done calmly, patiently, jokingly, sadly, cleverly, or with any other type of emotion or intent. Also, the word 'argue' is kind of part of the joke. It refers to the banter they love to engage in, & hints at the fact that it could be angry, but if you note the sarcasm, you see that the arguments are part of the fun. People often have playful arguments, just as people often play fight, roughhouse, or wrestle for fun. It can be called sarcastic, banter, repartee, witty, etc.
@@jakeparker44 Please don't. It's good as it is. The phrase: 'respectfully disagree but are professional about it' sounds like it's pandering to the PC police. And 'quite often it is all in good fun' - is unnecessary. #1 If you have to explain the joke, it's not funny anymore, & #2 If they can't grasp the joking nature in the intro, they aren't going to appreciate the banter within the podcast either. p.s. #3 You'd also lose the alliteration of 'argue' & 'agree'.
I'll argue that it would be wise to be careful of limiting your definitions to a fraction of what a word can mean. (This is actually a pet peeve of mine: when people stop at the most common definition, then have the audacity to tell others they are using the word incorrectly - when they aren't. Sorry, but you're just flaunting your ignorance, when it would take 2 seconds to double check whether you're actually right or not. It makes me wonder how many people ever consult a dictionary. This is one of the reasons the English language has been dumbed down - along with people being ridiculed for using a more expansive vocabulary. Speaking used to be an art, and people with eloquence were admired, but now it seems like most people are satisfied with a 3rd grade reading level, and want to drag everyone else down with them.) If you don't want to use fancy words, or prefer to use only the most ubiquitous meaning of a word, that's fine. Just look the word up before correcting someone else. • - • ❈ • - • ar·gue | ˈärɡyo͞o | verb (argues, arguing, argued) 1 [reporting verb] give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view: [with direct speech] : “It stands to reason,” she argued | [with clause] : defense attorneys argue that the police lacked “probable cause” to arrest the driver. • [with object] (argue someone into/out of) persuade someone to do or not to do (something) by giving reasons: I tried to argue him out of it. 2 [no object] exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way: figurative : I wasn't going to argue with a gun | [with object] : she was too tired to argue the point | don't argue with me. DERIVATIVES arguer noun ORIGIN Middle English: from Old French arguer, from Latin argutari ‘prattle’, frequentative of arguere ‘make clear, prove, accuse’. (Note that 'typically' means 'usually' or 'frequently' - not 'always'.)
Excellent list and podcast, really pinpointed what I have to work on. Also, Lee's casual point about highlights always being on the edge of plane changes was mindblowing. Great work gents.
Lee & Jake dropping bars 57:00! lol Great, chill, but very informative episode fellas!
Yay the OGs!
🥒⚾️ Paul!! I am on board with SVS. Out of all the online classes, I feel you are my people. So, I am looking forward to a great 2025!
This one was really good
I have Lee's nursery rhyme
"Little Lee White, teaches in school
You just have to follow his rule
Where planes change the slightest
These edges are brightest
And your drawing is looking cool!"
😄 Your poem is a cute idea. I'll try it too:
Artist Lee White,
instructs with delight,
to those seeking his pearls of wisdom.
This clever tip,
tells you the trick,
of where to insert highlights from:
Look for the places,
where planes change their faces -
where the surfaces change in direction.
This is the spot,
where the light's the most hot,
all else, in value's below them.
Each corner and curve,
in turn does deserve,
a bright highlight of shining attention.
I like your couplet:
"Where planes change the slightest,
These edges are brightest"
It makes a pithy reminder.
After listening to to your guys's descriptions of what each level looks like I had a suspicion of which one I am. Self-evaluating confirmed (at least in my opinion) I'm at level 6. I want to be 7 and 8 of course so I'm hoping that I'm close time-wise to get there soon
Can you please share your portfolio? I think I am around 5 or 6 but I need to make sure I'm not aiming too high 😅 Thank you!
This whole time I thought the guy without glasses was Jake, but I guess it has been Lee all along. Pulled the ol’ switcheroo on me, guys. 😉 Those name banners really helped straighten me out though. 😅
It says here that you can have a 14 day free trial but when you click on it there is no free trial just a choice of which level to buy
Pretty sure you have to pick something so it will be able to charge you once the two weeks has passed, if you want to continue. As someone who's taken the classes before the new update, it is well worth the investment and super affordable compared to college tuition.
the 14 day trial is left over from the old site. it may be taking you to the old site if it's in your cache
Love these podcasts but have always found it odd during the intro at the line that reads, ".....sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue....." . That just seems strange in that perhaps it is more like "disagree" rather than actually argue. You guys (and your guests) have always been professionals and seem to be that way beyond your art and its clearly evident in this series. I think you may disagree at times and it's always respectful and quite often in good fun. Love it! I would just like to comment here that I "respectfully disagree" with your choice for using the word "argue".
All this nit picking aside,...you guys are the best and I love your content and guests each week. You are very generous with your time and willingness to share your expertise and experiences with those that come here to learn!
Proposal for a new opening script: Sometimes we agree, sometimes we respectfully disagree but are professional about it, and quite often it is all in good fun, but every time you learn something brand-spankin new.
Thanks for the nit-pick Todd, glad to have you listening to us!
@@jakeparker44 Jake,...as usual you nailed it!!! I say go with that new opening line.
The intro uses the word 'argue' correctly.
To 'argue' doesn't necessarily mean 'to fight' or be angry, or even annoyed.
An argument is merely giving a reason supporting your idea. This can be done angrily, but it can also be done calmly, patiently, jokingly, sadly, cleverly, or with any other type of emotion or intent.
Also, the word 'argue' is kind of part of the joke. It refers to the banter they love to engage in, & hints at the fact that it could be angry, but if you note the sarcasm, you see that the arguments are part of the fun.
People often have playful arguments, just as people often play fight, roughhouse, or wrestle for fun. It can be called sarcastic, banter, repartee, witty, etc.
@@jakeparker44 Please don't. It's good as it is.
The phrase: 'respectfully disagree but are professional about it' sounds like it's pandering to the PC police.
And 'quite often it is all in good fun' - is unnecessary.
#1 If you have to explain the joke, it's not funny anymore, &
#2 If they can't grasp the joking nature in the intro, they aren't going to appreciate the banter within the podcast either.
p.s.
#3 You'd also lose the alliteration of 'argue' & 'agree'.
I'll argue that it would be wise to be careful of limiting your definitions to a fraction of what a word can mean.
(This is actually a pet peeve of mine: when people stop at the most common definition, then have the audacity to tell others they are using the word incorrectly - when they aren't. Sorry, but you're just flaunting your ignorance, when it would take 2 seconds to double check whether you're actually right or not.
It makes me wonder how many people ever consult a dictionary. This is one of the reasons the English language has been dumbed down - along with people being ridiculed for using a more expansive vocabulary. Speaking used to be an art, and people with eloquence were admired, but now it seems like most people are satisfied with a 3rd grade reading level, and want to drag everyone else down with them.)
If you don't want to use fancy words, or prefer to use only the most ubiquitous meaning of a word, that's fine. Just look the word up before correcting someone else.
• - • ❈ • - •
ar·gue | ˈärɡyo͞o |
verb (argues, arguing, argued)
1 [reporting verb] give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view: [with direct speech] : “It stands to reason,” she argued | [with clause] : defense attorneys argue that the police lacked “probable cause” to arrest the driver.
• [with object] (argue someone into/out of) persuade someone to do or not to do (something) by giving reasons: I tried to argue him out of it.
2 [no object] exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way: figurative : I wasn't going to argue with a gun | [with object] : she was too tired to argue the point | don't argue with me.
DERIVATIVES
arguer noun
ORIGIN
Middle English: from Old French arguer, from Latin argutari ‘prattle’, frequentative of arguere ‘make clear, prove, accuse’.
(Note that 'typically' means 'usually' or 'frequently' - not 'always'.)