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  • Reports from Russia suggest Gazprom and other Russian firms are setting up their own private armies.
    The state oil firm Gazprom has long employed people with military backgrounds to guard its assets around the world. But industry observers claim an armed unit employed by Gazprom is now active on the front line. That appeared to be confirmed by the head of Russia's paramilitary Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, in an interview.
    But other Russian oligarchs are reportedly forming paramilitary groups for future deployment. What are they afraid will happen?
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Комментарии • 1,6 тыс.

  • @DarxKies
    @DarxKies Год назад +965

    The fact that even companies have private armies sums up pretty well the chaos in russia.

    • @franzjoseph1837
      @franzjoseph1837 Год назад

      Coca Cola had death squads in Colombia. This is just capitalism at work.

    • @scienceisreligion5618
      @scienceisreligion5618 Год назад +39

      Private armies... thats more of capitalism way!
      Russia is becoming capitalist!

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад

      @@scienceisreligion5618 cApItAlIsM when russia is mafia led. 🤡

    • @TRAPONOMICS
      @TRAPONOMICS Год назад +123

      ​@@scienceisreligion5618 really is feudalistic

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад

      russian civil war in 3... 2... 1... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @therainbow488
    @therainbow488 Год назад +49

    Q. Why are Russian oligarchs forming private armies?
    A. Because one day they'll be fighting each other including their head.

  • @rogergoodman8665
    @rogergoodman8665 Год назад +377

    This is hilarious to me. Instead of fighting in and for the actual Russian army, these oligarchs are now forming their own private armies under the pretense of helping out in Ukraine because they foresee major political turmoil and a possibility of a future Russian Civil War. Obviously, these men have a tremendous amount of power and money to form them and provide equipment to their soldiers, yet none of them apparently have the balls to remove Putin from the equation before things get that bad. One would think the oligarchs would realize there are many of them, but only ONE Vladimir Putin. 🤔

    • @MaryamofShomal
      @MaryamofShomal Год назад +1

      Just goes to show, no matter how many billions an oligarch may steal from the Russian people, he will still suffer from the Russian curse: peasant brain.

    • @crishill6458
      @crishill6458 Год назад +68

      There isn't so many of them left now, obviously why they leap out of windows so often

    • @rogergoodman8665
      @rogergoodman8665 Год назад +55

      @@mrityunjaytripathi5588: Liking your own comment is pathetic.

    • @UnworthySubject
      @UnworthySubject Год назад +8

      My man, who brainwashed you. I couldn't think of a sadder life than obeying without questioning.

    • @user-lq5yo7qt8f
      @user-lq5yo7qt8f Год назад +7

      @@crishill6458 In the US, they hang themselves in jail before they talk to the investigators

  • @gabri770
    @gabri770 Год назад +154

    When the state loses its monopoly on force, thats when you know that state is done for.

    • @justauser
      @justauser Год назад +20

      Yeah it's kinda not good, but then again, Russia is not good

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 Год назад +11

      How many PMC do you think the US has? Just guess. Hint: I work for one you have never and never will hear about. We work with at least two others you have never and never will hear about. Ive also worked for Haliburton and Dyncorp, which you have heard of. American PMCs have their own PMCs, which is where the one I currently work fir started; a specialist division of a security division of Schlumberger.

    • @Peter-gt6jq
      @Peter-gt6jq Год назад +1

      That's exactly what happened to Ukraine after 1991

    • @acidbot666
      @acidbot666 Год назад +4

      It brings Blackwater to mind...

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 Год назад +13

      "Failed State", Ruzzia is like a nuclear armed Somalia

  • @russ9921
    @russ9921 Год назад +83

    Getting ready for the civil war after Putin exits at a ninth floor window.

    • @talkinghand122
      @talkinghand122 Год назад +5

      I was thinking that too. Why would a private company want an army? Are they seeing something we are not?

    • @Plateaudweller
      @Plateaudweller Год назад +5

      ​@@talkinghand122 Did you not listen to the video at all....or just jump to il advised assumptions.
      Putin required these companies to form fighting groups from their existing soldiers....who would normally protect the company intrastructure.

    • @user-lq5yo7qt8f
      @user-lq5yo7qt8f Год назад

      In America, they believe other countries should do what the CIA does to American presidents. The rest of the world feels differently

    • @philm325
      @philm325 Год назад +4

      Soon ™️

    • @Nainara32
      @Nainara32 Год назад

      Even if he isn't offed by his own people, Putin is 70 years old in a country with a male life expectancy of 66 years. He has no clear successor and the Russian constitution is a piece of paper that nobody takes seriously. Russia will be extraordinarily lucky if the next transition of power is peaceful.

  • @ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
    @ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 Год назад +45

    Russia is looking at an internal breakup so they'll need it.

  • @runwiththerunners8152
    @runwiththerunners8152 Год назад +318

    A list should be published of all western companies who do business with Gazprom.

    • @yam2050
      @yam2050 Год назад +22

      Gazprom is still selling gas to Europe.

    • @samsungtap4183
      @samsungtap4183 Год назад

      All that wonderful cheap Russian energy going to India and China, really very funny. Here in Vietnam i just paid my mthly energy bill, maybe about $50 and i run 3 aircons, how do you say cut off your nose to spite your face...hilarious.

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад +9

      Facebook would be one of them

    • @gokulkrishna4011
      @gokulkrishna4011 Год назад +11

      ​@@sawtooth808 Then fine them

    • @carn1fex_
      @carn1fex_ Год назад +7

      There are many. Nothing new. Do some research, bot.

  • @ronthered138
    @ronthered138 Год назад +94

    I think that the historical precedent is Medieval Europe. If Ruzzia unravels, they want protection for their little satraps. They might even adopt titles of "nobility", and Ruzzia regresses 500 years.

    • @Intentspunk19
      @Intentspunk19 Год назад +4

      This is the unraveling, could you EVER see the U.S. doing something like this? Never. Energy companies lol.

    • @brownmold
      @brownmold Год назад +6

      ​​@@Intentspunk19private armies exist in the US, they're just not as open. Security firms, "pmc", armed groups of "ciitizens". With loyalties outside the government. Just a different shade of grey.

    • @Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387
      @Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387 Год назад

      @@Intentspunk19 a professor he stated thisnis the future all over the world except China

    • @johng8837
      @johng8837 Год назад +1

      ​@@Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387 Which professor

    • @johng8837
      @johng8837 Год назад +4

      ​@@brownmold The differences the United States has always had a A history of private military militias and groups whereas with Russia this is not the case at being an authoritarian state as such it is an anomaly for these mercenary groups to rise and it's indicative of the decline of centralized confidence in Russia. And while the United States has had these groups There has always been an institutional framework to address these malicious and How to negotiate with them. With Russia however these new developments are Are going to cause a lot more friction

  • @timogul
    @timogul Год назад +64

    They're probably worried that Putin will have them tossed out a window.

    • @kevincarter6001
      @kevincarter6001 Год назад +9

      Or putin poisoning them.

    • @angusmacfrankenstein7227
      @angusmacfrankenstein7227 Год назад +1

      “This year’s Victory Day parade has strange confetti this year! It’s heavy and lands with a wet splat! Watch your step, _tovarishch!_ “

    • @eyespliced
      @eyespliced Год назад +1

      I dunno, maybe they're getting ready to _toss putin_ out of a window.

    • @timogul
      @timogul Год назад +1

      @@eyespliced That would certainly help.

    • @wolfgangwiesinger9502
      @wolfgangwiesinger9502 Год назад

      Tax collectors are showing up too wirh armed accompany i heard.

  • @RainierKine
    @RainierKine Год назад +73

    History is repeating. When the powerful expects instability, they'll obviously build their own army.

    • @raphael3620
      @raphael3620 Год назад

      At the end they get there ammunition from the state. Even Wagner get there's from the state. So it's not much of a threat if the state still provide for them

    • @Rainhands22
      @Rainhands22 Год назад +5

      ​@Raphael if they are so rich they can buy from Iran or elsewhere.

    • @PhysiKarlz
      @PhysiKarlz Год назад

      ​@@raphael3620 their* and theirs*, not there and there's....

  • @lynnoble8229
    @lynnoble8229 Год назад +90

    Someone in the back of the bus didn’t look too happy about being on the bus!!

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад +22

      ... considering you have a one way ticket... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @user-lq5yo7qt8f
      @user-lq5yo7qt8f Год назад +3

      You obviously have an eye for detail. One in how many?

    • @hermandaems9606
      @hermandaems9606 Год назад

      voleteer

    • @eh1702
      @eh1702 Год назад +2

      I wonder if they just decided they were going to get x number of men - and rounded up to that by transferring regular employees into the “security team” last week.

    • @sarjokujabi9730
      @sarjokujabi9730 Год назад +1

      That's a lie because no one foce him to go he is fighting for his mother Land, you people are haters and lairs.

  • @raydunn2582
    @raydunn2582 Год назад +136

    I see three reasons for these personal armies:
    1 - Asset protection (as mentioned)
    2 - Vanity ("Hey, I have my own army." or "My army is bigger than yours - my yacht too.")
    3 - Personal protection (becoming more and more necessary, I think.)
    During WWII Stalin, rather than having his armies work together and coordinate their efforts, left the commanding Generals to compete for resources and race each other to reach Berlin. Putin is just using the same tactic. He pits the regular army against Wagner and expects each to want to succeed where the other fails. These corporate army units are little more than another form of conscription and represent only a minor variation of the overall concept.

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Год назад

      For when Putin croaks. There will be a power vacuum. Regional civil wars.

    • @zyphryx9
      @zyphryx9 Год назад +9

      I'd want a private army if I lived in Russia too. You never know when you're walking too close to an open window over there.

    • @Grimeyhoob
      @Grimeyhoob Год назад

      Absolute failure of a state in action in Russia and soon to come in China. My fear is that these countries don’t care about ending the world along with themselves. There is a fatalistic and apocalyptic mindset in both countries, they don’t care about living in peace and prosperity, they care only about bowing down like mindless lemmings to their dictators. It’s sad and pathetic.

    • @FlorianWendelborn
      @FlorianWendelborn Год назад

      Isn’t if funny how the commies used competition in order to maximize efficiency?

    • @mourka01
      @mourka01 Год назад

      It was effective in the past i guess we will see if history will repeat itself

  • @wmtrader
    @wmtrader Год назад +76

    That guy at the back of the bus next to the window doesn't look too happy 0:12 about being sent to fight in Ukraine

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад

      ... it is a one way trip and they know it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They are like lambs on the way to the slaughter house. russians in a nutshell.

    • @enescustovic1883
      @enescustovic1883 Год назад +7

      Homie is having a breakdown 🤣

    • @talkinghand122
      @talkinghand122 Год назад +24

      The chances of not coming back to your family are pretty high. Yeah, I wouldn't be happy either.

    • @eh1702
      @eh1702 Год назад +1

      At least one of those guys has also taken a very recent swipe across the bridge of his nose.

    • @user-lq5yo7qt8f
      @user-lq5yo7qt8f Год назад

      Why did he volunteer then? You know, the destitute Latino tr ash signs up with the US military just to get a US passport

  • @ronagoodwell2709
    @ronagoodwell2709 Год назад +156

    It sounds like these paramilitaries were already in existence in some form, attached to wealthy individuals and/or companies. This suggests a lack of confidence in the larger state for security. That fits with what we've seen with the Russian army and the endless stories of corruption and incompetence. Russia appears to be a ramshackle constellation of lesser poorly defined states or "statelets" within a larger sprawling state. There is no particular reason to believe that any of these states, large or small, are anything other than loosely organized criminal networks with private "muscle." And trust does not extend from one "state" to another. This is a perfect recipe for a civil war. Once strong man Putin begins to decline in an obvious way everything will unravel quickly. China waits patiently. Xi knows what's coming. It happened in China many times in the past.

    • @charlesjames1442
      @charlesjames1442 Год назад +18

      A coalition of pirates. Take look at Haiti. That’s what the Russians have to look forward to.

    • @mercedeswolf9473
      @mercedeswolf9473 Год назад +18

      Daddy Xi wants only siberia,dagestan&yakutan.😂

    • @KyleSmith-hq9qr
      @KyleSmith-hq9qr Год назад +10

      Nice observation. It's a type of feudalism.

    • @Qrob214
      @Qrob214 Год назад +2

      Your statement immediately reminded me of "The Hunger Games".

    • @eddietat95
      @eddietat95 Год назад

      A Chinese-occupied Siberia would be very helpful to Xi's grand strategy. No wonder he sits idly as Russian soldiers are mauled to death with each passing day.

  • @samsungqled1167
    @samsungqled1167 Год назад +29

    0:13 Overweight Russian soldier is crying in the back of the bus. He knows he will die soon, we all know it.

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад +10

      They all know they are dead man walking and yet they say/do nothing about that. russians in a nutshell.

    • @Sam-pn2kc
      @Sam-pn2kc Год назад

      crying he probably has a wife and child your not very intelligent are you

    • @birdstwin1186
      @birdstwin1186 Год назад

      LMAO he really is crying his heart out.

    • @Anonerak2
      @Anonerak2 Год назад +2

      That is the face of bravery my friend, those are tears of happiness, he is happy that it is finally his turn to fight and die for Gazprom, I mean for mother Russia.

    • @user-lq5yo7qt8f
      @user-lq5yo7qt8f Год назад +2

      That was his choice. The poor Ukrainian recruits have none. They are packed in vans and sent to a dead end

  • @D25Reg-ie9su
    @D25Reg-ie9su Год назад +128

    Power to Ukraine soldiers….🇵🇭🇵🇭🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇺🇦from Canada and Philippines

  • @billykotsos4642
    @billykotsos4642 Год назад +17

    0:13 the guy in the back isn’t feeling it…

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад +4

      ... not feeling any enthusiam dying for yachts and villas of their masters?

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 Год назад +56

    If nothing else, it means you have more people to help keep all those very dangerous windows closed.

  • @abynor8687
    @abynor8687 Год назад +43

    Russia is on the way to its greatest military defeat thanks to Ukrainian bravery and western weapons.
    Yet, F16s would significantly reduce Ukrainian causalities.
    There is no reason (except some unclear political considerations in US) for not giving F16s to Ukraine.

    • @stevea2909
      @stevea2909 Год назад +3

      Grippens and Eurofighters have not been offered, is this still some unclear political considerations in US?

    • @MaryamofShomal
      @MaryamofShomal Год назад +1

      France and Germany have been absolute cowards in this war. They should be the ones arming TF outta Ukraine, instead of finding new ways to play footsie with fascists like Putin and Xi Jinping. Appeasement by any other name!
      Less than a century ago, we Americans saved Europe from itself, twice - and yet Macron and Scholz are behaving as if there isn’t a fascist genocidal war raging right now in Europe. Who knew the Europeans had such short memories 😔

    • @tolrem
      @tolrem Год назад

      They need to learn how to fly them that's why.

    • @crishill6458
      @crishill6458 Год назад +2

      Actually I'm pretty sure you will find that the reason is aircraft are a very easy target for the enemy and the aircraft will only last a few months, its not

    • @crishill6458
      @crishill6458 Год назад

      The answer

  • @niknoks7638
    @niknoks7638 Год назад +18

    When the bully’s start fighting each other just let them get on with it! 🤣

  • @paraguard60
    @paraguard60 Год назад +12

    The meatgrinder can handle all types of meat and mince it! Be it Wagner meat, Gazprom meat, or just regular Orc meat........

    • @floydstash
      @floydstash Год назад

      Lok'tar Ogar!
      - Victory or death!

    • @Solid_Snake99
      @Solid_Snake99 Год назад +1

      Russians behave like The lord of the rings Orcs

  • @truthbud
    @truthbud Год назад +25

    The sheer amount of approving and cheering comments by ordinary Russians under videos about the atrocities committed against civilians and prisoners of war in Ukraine were no less shocking to Ukrainians than the war itself.
    We somehow got used to the war, but the realization of who we have been living next to all this time without even knowing it is still terrifying.
    Those barbarians called themselves our brothers.
    Imagine what they would do to you, who they call their enemies, if you let them.
    Not supplying weapons to Ukraine under the pretext of achieving an early peace would be like allowing a violator to violate his victim in order to end the violence as soon as possible.

    • @julianjdogg
      @julianjdogg Год назад +5

      I've seen this comment before

    • @ServicEnginner
      @ServicEnginner Год назад +3

      I have also seen this comment before is this a bit account?

    • @ivan200804
      @ivan200804 Год назад +2

      You always post the same thing. This is for none-bots: War is aways a war crime.

    • @raclark2730
      @raclark2730 Год назад +1

      Most comment sections its posted in don't collaborate his claim.

    • @xcitemex6353
      @xcitemex6353 Год назад

      500 Ukrainian soldiers killed today alone

  • @timothywootton5331
    @timothywootton5331 Год назад +16

    When a state enters the warlord phase then that state is most likely going to fracture for a bit.

  • @johnpeterson8674
    @johnpeterson8674 Год назад +19

    Thanks for giving this man time to talk.

  • @DarxKies
    @DarxKies Год назад +92

    Imagine being russian and your own government keeps thinking of more evil ways to kill you and you say nothing.

    • @TheStormtrooper00
      @TheStormtrooper00 Год назад +23

      ''Imagine being russian''

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад +8

      @@TheStormtrooper00 So true. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @elbibwen3019
      @elbibwen3019 Год назад

      *what a absolute rubbish you wrote - you are pathetic and laughable at the same time*

    • @nvmtt
      @nvmtt Год назад +4

      welcome to capitalism, wealth is more valuable than lives. Dont like it? North Korea is that way.

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад +6

      @@nvmtt .... north korea... 🤡

  • @You_do_not_exist_Jack
    @You_do_not_exist_Jack Год назад +7

    A pleasant surprise to see Mr RobWords hosting on here! Keep it up lad

  • @briansmaller7443
    @briansmaller7443 Год назад +8

    Maybe Russian oligarchs want some protection around them to stop them accidentally falling out of a hospital window.

  • @ulrich9842
    @ulrich9842 Год назад +44

    Thank you for these very interesting insights!

  • @charlessmyth
    @charlessmyth Год назад +38

    Private armies are okay, so long as you can keep paying them :-)

    • @TriggaTrey361
      @TriggaTrey361 Год назад

      Or offer them double our side to turn on them and fight for us instead lol

    • @fenseti3793
      @fenseti3793 Год назад +3

      don't have to pay them if the 'log out' from life

    • @cancerino666
      @cancerino666 Год назад

      That applies to any army

    • @Theofficejobdodger
      @Theofficejobdodger Год назад

      Well isnt that the point? They can pay them because those private armies protect the wealth resources with wich they pay them

    • @MsJellyBellyLove
      @MsJellyBellyLove Год назад +3

      Does it matter if you pay them? The regular RU army isn't paying its soldiers consistently.

  • @barreloffun10
    @barreloffun10 Год назад +11

    It’s a shame that Putin didn’t use his years in power to build up Russian civil society and develop good relations with all of Russia’s neighbors. Things could have been so different.

    • @DgurlSunshine
      @DgurlSunshine Год назад

      NATO FRAMED RUSSIA

    • @IuliuPascaru
      @IuliuPascaru Год назад +3

      But if he would, then Russia would become a democracy and there are chances that Putin could not win every Presidential election for decades....
      Things would be so different for the people, and for Putin too.
      Now, does he wants this?

  • @reamoinmcdonachadh9519
    @reamoinmcdonachadh9519 Год назад +22

    It would appear that Russia is descending into a new (but extremely old) system of Baronies, with Oligarchs acting as a new Nobility complete with their own retinues, courts, administrations and organised militaries. It seems the Russian World is going back in time in order to move forward as collective society.
    Cyberpunk/Steampunk being made real.

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 Год назад +5

      Russia is really just Muscovy

  • @diazvirdani1059
    @diazvirdani1059 Год назад +5

    *Russia🇷🇺 occupied oblast Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, Kherson, Crimea.*
    Russia must end occupation & keep peace!.

  • @BHaidacher
    @BHaidacher Год назад +16

    Coordination of such diverse armies increases complexity exponentially. This will be a disaster.
    Oligarchs are afraid of losing their privileges...

    • @defendfreedom1390
      @defendfreedom1390 Год назад +1

      Each of them needs to loot the conquered territories on his own.

  • @dimitrimorakhovski5287
    @dimitrimorakhovski5287 Год назад +17

    It is not about chaos I suspect. All "oligarchs" are largely under state control. Russian army fighting in Ukraine is a contract service. This looks more as another way of funding and mobilisation.

    • @freespiritable
      @freespiritable Год назад +2

      I was thinking the same. They don't want money lost in corrupted army so they make their own armies and fund directly those

    • @PharisaerWatch
      @PharisaerWatch Год назад

      it is the pandoras box that is for sure. And I wouldn't be so sure about "state control". We are talking about humans and not robots. so there are factions and it is interesting to see how long Putin can satisfy the needed requirement of carrot and stick for each and everyone in that elite. Surely it is no monolith but more like a hydra that demands constant access to bribery/ corruption and easy state funds

    • @iyappanmurugan5974
      @iyappanmurugan5974 Год назад +1

      True. This is an another form of mobilisation

    • @stevehatcher7700
      @stevehatcher7700 Год назад +1

      And while sanctions limit the states finances, state owned oligarchs are now required to use "their" funds to take mobilization to the next level. The hidden level. State "appears" to be not involved. Keeps the Russian publics' blinders on.

    • @Kyle-sr6jm
      @Kyle-sr6jm Год назад

      Power flows out of the end of rifle barrels.
      Private armies are not a sign of stable government.

  • @7rich79
    @7rich79 Год назад +22

    Gazprom would normally have preferred to hire ex-convicts as security, but someone has been emptying the prisons, so ex-army was the second best choice :P

    • @bogdanmeleszczenko1271
      @bogdanmeleszczenko1271 Год назад +1

      😂👍🏻

    • @user-lq5yo7qt8f
      @user-lq5yo7qt8f Год назад

      France does a better deal with active criminals .... the Foreign Legion is their elite force and crime merchant.... and costs France next to nothing

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад

      Using prisoners does have the cache of plausible deniability…However at the rate Russia’s going through soldiers, plausible deniability went out the window 🪟 along with some poor oligarch that fell out of favor with Vova

  • @Cola_Dulz
    @Cola_Dulz Год назад +8

    Why other countries always supposed to suffer for russia being Russia. Running in circles, but somehow they always manage to rebuild their empire and attack their neighbors but they never consider the wellbeing of the people, primarily their own.

    • @larsrons7937
      @larsrons7937 Год назад

      russia don't know how to keep russia inside russia. And now they have this new concept of the russian "Mir" meaning both "the world" and "peace". The concept is that when all the world that (in their eyes) "ought to be" russian has by force become russian, there will be peace. And it doesn't matter how many millions will have to die and suffer to achieve it.

  • @tolrem
    @tolrem Год назад +5

    Sounds like Moscow is about to have a "Khartoum moment".Lebanonisation of Russia coming up.

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад +1

      Or Somalia, (what with their warlords and pirates)

  • @marilenaganea6578
    @marilenaganea6578 Год назад +4

    Going down to feudalism road, *fast* , when every overlord had its own army of poor peasants to protect their arses from defenestrations 😂😂😂😂

  • @Andy-te1mw
    @Andy-te1mw Год назад +12

    Puck Futin. Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

  • @YouAreMeWho
    @YouAreMeWho Год назад +5

    At 0:15 Russian face in the back says it all.

  • @rey1953
    @rey1953 Год назад +8

    I read somewhere a while back that Shoigu was forming his own PMC, Patriot PMC. What a crazy situation. They had a problem with coordination between branches of the military, this complicates it all more. Since most of the oligarchs are oligarchs at the pleasure of Putin it would suggest that these so called private armies are being formed at least with his blessing and at most with his direction. This may be as a bulwark against the Russian Army if they get any ideas.

  • @tom7258052
    @tom7258052 Год назад +22

    I am a proud and lonely Taiwan Independenceist
    Fight for the last great nation(Taiwan) in the world that has never been born whose birth will surpass the difficulties of all countries
    Long live for Taiwan independent

  • @DarkstarDarth
    @DarkstarDarth Год назад +3

    May i translate that a bit, Gaspron is merely showing Pootin that they are siding with him by providing a little cannon fodder to prevent themselves from accidentally falling off of 10 story buildings. Write that down gentleman.

  • @nukacoaal
    @nukacoaal Год назад +8

    This timeline is so cool. I wish I could contemplate it from another, more chill timeline tho.

  • @morpheus2573
    @morpheus2573 Год назад +44

    Private mercenaries can work outside any Government regulations. This gives Putler deniability. He can also avoid payouts for death/injury.

    • @jenmahara7291
      @jenmahara7291 Год назад

      america does the same thing and one of their merenaries boss is behind the call of duty game . tit for tat good for 1 good for all

    • @sergersgerhersh6594
      @sergersgerhersh6594 Год назад +8

      Double edged sword. Empowering oligarchs and their private militaries is another factor that could encourage civil war / a military coup.

    • @mikemunro811
      @mikemunro811 Год назад +1

      Same can be said for private mercenaries from any other country, and including those fighting against Russia

    • @slevinsleven2775
      @slevinsleven2775 Год назад +1

      No, he authorize it, hence, he's also as guilty.
      Just like someone who helps another one to kill a person, also get in as much trouble, even often, worse because he's the mastermind behind it.

    • @MsJellyBellyLove
      @MsJellyBellyLove Год назад +2

      Even families of regular RU soldiers that've been killed in Ukraine are having trouble just getting confirmation of their sons being killed in combat. No payouts to them either.

  • @BoxcarWillie42
    @BoxcarWillie42 Год назад +4

    Imagine Walmart having a private military army. How would they be dressed? 😂

    • @angusmacfrankenstein7227
      @angusmacfrankenstein7227 Год назад

      Geez, and some people are worried about Joe Biden’s age! Based on the Walmart greeters I’ve seen, in what kind of shape would the Walmart Army be?!

    • @BoxcarWillie42
      @BoxcarWillie42 Год назад

      @@angusmacfrankenstein7227 living large, my friend.. Living large... 😆

  • @asayar9328
    @asayar9328 Год назад +14

    This is crazy...

    • @larsrons7937
      @larsrons7937 Год назад

      Why? It's just a gas company with a private army. That is natural. It is a "natural" gas company after all. Any large company should have their own private army, because... because... because of course they should. It's russia. Look at Prigozhin, he runs a catering business, so he too needs a private army. 50.000. With tanks and fighter planes. What if some customer should complain that the food is cold? If just russia could learn to keep russia within russia.

  • @steverogers8163
    @steverogers8163 Год назад +7

    Interesting. I imagine it started when someone mentioned that alot of retired soldiers went to work for Gazprom security. So a seemingly trained and ready force ripe for conscription, but you don't have to call it that. Additionally since stealing from government war funds is clearly a booming business other Oligarchics want in on the action too. Thirdly Putin does not want new power centers forming so he needs to keep all of them equally drained of strength by throwing them into Ukraine. If he leaves them alone that raises the dangerous possibility that the balance of power could shift and a coup could happen. Its a everyone in the same sinking boat strategy, which works until it suddenly doesn't.

  • @mortuos557
    @mortuos557 Год назад +14

    because more disorganized chaos will help here...
    can't they just finally give up?

    • @galaxylivegame6298
      @galaxylivegame6298 Год назад

      nah big head won't stop :(

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад

      putin never learned to pull out so the russians are all f**ked.

    • @mortuos557
      @mortuos557 Год назад

      @@galaxylivegame6298 can't trust a single person to have the military under control, what if he betrays you...
      yay -.- i know...

  • @wbell539
    @wbell539 Год назад +3

    Extremely valuable commentary.

  • @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
    @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Год назад +5

    The Gaddafi regime also relied heavily on mercenary forces in an attempt to stay in power

    • @mikemunro811
      @mikemunro811 Год назад

      Just as we relied on them to overthrow him at arms length in an effort to take the oil

    • @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
      @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Год назад

      @@mikemunro811 Or maybe Libyans aren't as bovine as Russians?

  • @SeemoreDunkan
    @SeemoreDunkan Год назад +4

    How about a few F16's? Make it an even ''playing field''. Ya know..?

  • @ohmy878
    @ohmy878 Год назад +2

    Gazprom : Congratulation comrade you are promoted to soldier class.😄

  • @hughjohns9110
    @hughjohns9110 Год назад +6

    "The govt decided to use these ppl as VOLUNTEERS"....wtf! :-D

    • @Anonerak2
      @Anonerak2 Год назад +4

      In Russia, you don't volunteer for government, government volunteers for you.

  • @hangten1904
    @hangten1904 Год назад +3

    Protecting their interest, simple as that.

  • @DSAK55
    @DSAK55 Год назад +4

    because they don't want to fall out of windows

  • @hsdsaunders
    @hsdsaunders Год назад +1

    Oh wow. Didn't know Rob Words was a DW reporter.

  • @nijadbahnam9859
    @nijadbahnam9859 Год назад +7

    Are they preparing for a possible Russian CW ?

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад

      Shaking eight ball 🎱 “Outcome hazy, ask again later”

  • @bobikdylan
    @bobikdylan Год назад +1

    Another reason to never deal with Gazprom again.

  • @kroooassant9899
    @kroooassant9899 Год назад +11

    It's forbidden they say but no other countries has more private armies than Russia XD

    • @FerrisMacWheel
      @FerrisMacWheel Год назад +7

      Fun fact but private armies are forbidden by russian law

    • @Doyourbest4245
      @Doyourbest4245 Год назад

      You’re commenting on a video claiming that right now. How forbidden could it be?

  • @PharisaerWatch
    @PharisaerWatch Год назад +6

    Sounds great.....While NATO command does everything to increase interoperability and frequent joint trainings between member states armies.
    The Russians go full on -> let's go with no unified command, tactical goals defined by company CEO's and let's go all in on a logistical chaos.
    What could possibly go wrong....

  • @patlecat
    @patlecat Год назад +5

    Disposable state employees in Russia.

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад

      *disposable russians* 😢

  • @About_That_Life
    @About_That_Life Год назад +4

    Top 20 World 🌎 list of Countries still buying fuels from Russia
    1 China 🇨🇳
    2 Germany 🇩🇪
    3 Turkey 🇹🇷
    4 India 🇮🇳
    5 Netherlands 🇳🇱
    6 Italy 🇮🇹
    7 Poland 🇵🇱
    8 France 🇫🇷
    9 Belgium 🇧🇪
    10 Hungary 🇭🇺
    11 Bulgaria 🇧🇬
    12 Slovakia 🇸🇰
    13 Japan 🇯🇵
    14 South Korea 🇰🇷
    15 Spain 🇪🇸
    16 Austria 🇦🇹
    17 Egypt 🇪🇬
    18 Greece 🇬🇷
    19 Czechia 🇨🇿
    20 UAE 🇦🇪
    Many European countries still buying fuels from Russia🤬

  • @Anonerak2
    @Anonerak2 Год назад +5

    Can war crimes charges be levied against the heads of Gazprom?

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад

      Since Gazprom is largely Kremlin owned…good question

  • @ronaldjohnson1474
    @ronaldjohnson1474 Год назад +1

    Ancient Greece hired mercenaries, ancient Rome did too, even the British Empire began to rely on mercs. Where these empires today?

  • @SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers
    @SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers Год назад +12

    All those who are fed up with their reasonably comfortable job step forward if you want to go to Ukraine in an unjust war to die.
    Nobody?
    OK, Vlad, you are to volunteer, and you too Vlad. All Vlads step forward. Good, well done you heroes.

    • @user-lq5yo7qt8f
      @user-lq5yo7qt8f Год назад

      You are accurately describing what they do in .... Ukraine

    • @larsrons7937
      @larsrons7937 Год назад +1

      _"and all Ivans... Yes, Ivan, Ivan and Ivan. You'll be tasked with providing the others in the cold trenches with central heating, radiating from nearby fossil fuel depots. Remember to bring your own cigarettes!"_

    • @michaelkrzak5414
      @michaelkrzak5414 Год назад

      😂😂

  • @donaldsebolt6890
    @donaldsebolt6890 Год назад +1

    The government decided to "use their troops as volunteers". It doesn't sound like the volunteers had much of a choice.

  • @hermangaag9758
    @hermangaag9758 Год назад +5

    "Downfall of russia as a state" 👍👍👍

  • @Asoka-great
    @Asoka-great Год назад +2

    This is like Roman Empire - u need to show your mettle by creating an Private Army and show your might.

  • @AORD72
    @AORD72 Год назад +3

    Isn't this how coups happen, or am I just being hopeful?

  • @TohelpLookupUnited24-ny1kc
    @TohelpLookupUnited24-ny1kc Год назад +5

    Power 💪 to the people 🌍 that are for 🇺🇦.

  • @jordiquintana2906
    @jordiquintana2906 Год назад +3

    For those who dont know, the presenter has his own youtube channel! Robwords!! I was shocked to see him here haha

    • @pensfan044
      @pensfan044 Год назад

      I scrolled for soooooo long to find a comment that said this was Robwords! Love his channel!

  • @peejay8519
    @peejay8519 Год назад +2

    They're afraid of falling off the window 😅

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад

      Or getting polonium sickness after drinking tea

  • @janechambers9980
    @janechambers9980 Год назад +4

    Security guards at war! What could go wrong?

    • @angusmacfrankenstein7227
      @angusmacfrankenstein7227 Год назад

      Having been a security guard, and knowing the holes in training, I can safely say _A LOT CAN GO WRONG!_

  • @anonymouspyramids6192
    @anonymouspyramids6192 Год назад +2

    From the socialist USSR to the oligarchic Russian Federation-- the people of Russia can't seem to catch a break.

  • @GM4ThePeople
    @GM4ThePeople Год назад +3

    Is Gazprom the only publicly-traded stock which confers ownership of a private army?

  • @nobodyisbest
    @nobodyisbest Год назад +2

    The tsar is dying, everyone is getting their troops ready to fight over his succession.

  • @joegrossinger3381
    @joegrossinger3381 Год назад +3

    They are all building their own armies to keep from accidentally falling out of a window.

  • @aycaramba9540
    @aycaramba9540 Год назад +2

    0:15 a soldier crying in the back right corner, NO wonder I ,would too if I were "canon fodder"

  • @Martin_Kintler
    @Martin_Kintler Год назад +4

    If Russia disintegrates, who gets their hands on its nukes is what I'm asking.

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад +1

      What makes you think most of Russia’s nukes are in working condition ? You have seen the state of Russia’s military, right?

    • @Martin_Kintler
      @Martin_Kintler Год назад

      @@sawtooth808 one nuke is more than enough, don't you think? Out of 3,5k how many are functional? I don't know how about you, but I don't like those odds.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Год назад

      Whoever gets to them 1st

  • @j.erickson8571
    @j.erickson8571 Год назад +1

    I can imagine the "quality" of the private armies. There is no army as such in Russia. The regular army is demoralized, under-appreciated, and unprepared. When the regular army is not drunk are fighting...against each other. A good strategy for the UA army would be leaving big liquor boxes on the front lines. I can assure you they will focus on the alcohol and forget about the war altogether.

  • @jimsdeadmilton1899
    @jimsdeadmilton1899 Год назад +3

    The Warlord Era of Russia is beginning

  • @miketran4289
    @miketran4289 Год назад +1

    To protect themselves from having accidents with falling out of windows.

  • @NathansHVAC
    @NathansHVAC Год назад +4

    In the US, they are called security companies.

    • @CosmicHarmony58
      @CosmicHarmony58 Год назад

      Pinkertons lol literally a security company now too 😂..101 percent true

    • @alphanerd7221
      @alphanerd7221 Год назад

      @@CosmicHarmony58 The Pinkertons aren't remotely military and never were.

  • @MrGangstNerd
    @MrGangstNerd Год назад +1

    Looks like they’re about to get a taste of the pain they’ve inflicted for years in Syria and across Africa

  • @gagaplex
    @gagaplex Год назад +19

    I think Russia is doing anything it can to fill the trenches with meat to slow or stop the eventual Ukrainian counterattack. Maybe these security guards are not well-enough trained and equipped to do offensive operations, but if they try and hold the trenches, it frees up whatever remains of Russia's more professional troops for other operations. It does make a twisted sort of sense, if you just need more warm bodies, not competent soldiers.

    • @livingtribunal4110
      @livingtribunal4110 Год назад

      You mean the counter-offensive that will see another 10,000 Ukrainazis put into the path of the Russian Killdozer?

    • @martavdz4972
      @martavdz4972 Год назад +4

      @@user-g5xnx7gjqb That´s nonsense because that kind of tactics only makes sense with a huge country that can afford to lose soldiers.

    • @martavdz4972
      @martavdz4972 Год назад +7

      This was Russia´s strategy in WWII, too. You´ve just written what Central and Eastern Europe has known for 80 years. Here, you just have to say "Nas mnogo" (Russian for "There´s lots of us" or "We have many people") and we know what you mean. A single human life means nothing in Russia.

    • @chairforceoneYT
      @chairforceoneYT Год назад +2

      it made sense 70 years ago

    • @user-g5xnx7gjqb
      @user-g5xnx7gjqb Год назад +1

      @@martavdz4972
      Indeed, the Soviet Union lost many soldiers during World War II. Now Russia, unlike Ukraine, values ​​its soldiers. Thousands of untrained Ukrainians died in Bakhmut

  • @MM-fq9gi
    @MM-fq9gi Год назад +1

    So they are basically civilian militia that aren't covered by the Geneva Convention and thus should be treated differently when captured or killed.

  • @sknmttn
    @sknmttn Год назад +4

    Robwords!

  • @andrewwatson5545
    @andrewwatson5545 Год назад

    The guy at 15 seconds didn't look very happy did he😂

  • @nicow6808
    @nicow6808 Год назад +4

    A gas station with an army

  • @XA1985
    @XA1985 Год назад +1

    It just looks to me that Putin wants his buddies to help pay the bills 😂

  • @TrixiLovesYou
    @TrixiLovesYou Год назад +4

    Gerhard Schröder has a private army? The guy just never stops.

    • @cinepost
      @cinepost Год назад

      Long live East Germany!

  • @cephy8102
    @cephy8102 Год назад +1

    Private companies having their own armies...
    we're heading straight into the world of Cyberpunk 2077.

  • @marcusphoenix5970
    @marcusphoenix5970 Год назад +5

    More meat for meat grinder

    • @DarxKies
      @DarxKies Год назад

      or how to kill off your own population as fast as possible

  • @NicholasDeLaat
    @NicholasDeLaat Год назад +2

    Just curious, if they are private mercenaries does the rule of war then count? Like the Genova convention and torture?

  • @kimwit1307
    @kimwit1307 Год назад +9

    Having private militias multiply and gain actual military experience is more often than not a bad idea for a countriy and the security of its gvoernment in the longer term.

    • @Asuperman97566
      @Asuperman97566 Год назад

      Lol, having many private militias is the best way to have a civil war especially in a country like Russia where the stronger becomes the president.

    • @holechek
      @holechek Год назад

      this is how Iraq defeated ISIL on the ground. They had so many militia groups fighting, but now that ISIL isn't that big of an issue, internal tensions are high due to varying agendas between all these groups, something that will most likely happen in Russia after the war.

    • @kimwit1307
      @kimwit1307 Год назад

      @@holechek iraq already had militias of various political, religious and ethnic variety before that. It has not gotten better since, i think.

  • @kjensen7819
    @kjensen7819 Год назад +1

    A country where the biggest companies are forming their own armies sounds very healthy and normal. Good luck Russians.

  • @keithroy9217
    @keithroy9217 Год назад +17

    You also have to factor in that an outfit like GazProm knows that if Russia loses in Ukraine they (GazProm) are at the mercy of the Ukrainians for delivery. With total control of the existing infrastructure, Ukraine would be in control of the supply chain for Russia’s biggest export customer. Their management are probably near to medical basket cases from worrying about that.

    • @DanielFenandes
      @DanielFenandes Год назад

      Who is russia biggest export customer?

    • @kebo57
      @kebo57 Год назад +1

      @Keith Roy I think you're overthinking the possible outcomes. Ukraine and its allies don't wish to control the RF, they just want the RF to vacate from all of Ukraine. If Ukraine does prevail in the end, whatever happens to the RF will happen. Ukraine will have its hands full just trying to restore order and rebuild its country.

    • @keithroy9217
      @keithroy9217 Год назад

      @@kebo57 from the viewpoint of Ukraine and its allies, you’re perfectly correct. Try looking at it from GazProm’s viewpoint.

  • @ninjiango9126
    @ninjiango9126 Год назад +1

    Oligarchs know they're going to need the private armies to fight the civil wars for power after Putin kicks the bucket.

  • @clareomarfran
    @clareomarfran Год назад +6

    Hey Rob! Is DW your day job? I'm a big fan of your Words.

    • @ballandpaddle
      @ballandpaddle Год назад +2

      Same here! A pleasant surprise to see him hosting the news.