right? i love going to malls but whenever i go it seems like there's not a single store that i like. either they were weird cheap stores, or expensive luxury stores for the rich. even the restaurants aren't as good, and they've "modernized" mall designs and i think they look so boring now, especially without any arcades.
I live in a regular town, maybe on the smaller side, in Ontario and the mall here is still doing well even with the restrictions due to covid. But then, the middle class here in Canada do thrive 😌
FLoof :D I live in London and yeah the malls are always busy here. There’s only one big mall that’s basically dead but only cause there isn’t much there.
FLoof :D Yeah there’s Masonville, White Oaks and another one called Westmount. Westmount is the dead one but it used to be packed as well like 10 years ago but all the good stores moved out so no one goes there that much now. Also White oaks mall is mostly crowded on weekends.
Once this country recovers from the pandemic and opens its northern border again, I'm moving to Canada, their middle class is still going strong, and they have many more shopping malls per capita.
@juan mateus too true. i live in a third world country and even in this pandemic and social distancing measures, malls are still up and running as usual.
The middle class is buying on line instead of at brick and mortar shops
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Fun fact. The reason why the mall was created in the first place was because of Minnesota's notoriously harsh Winters. People needed something to do indoors.
@@lakeatman504 Yes. For some reason, multi-story parking garages are not popular for malls. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one suburban mall that has one... and even it still has extensive parking lots around it as well. I can sort of get that it doesn't "look pretty", but honestly, acres of feet blistering asphalt isn't attractive either, even with the rare forlorn tree here and there.
I wish that malls had something more than generic clothing stores, generic jewelry stores, or the usual restaurants we all see everywhere. And do we really need 5 different stores that sell bath salts and soap?
THIS! This is the real reason why malls are closing up. The mall near my house, I never go to unless I'm out and about working side gigs (Uber, Grubhub, et all) and need a place to use the restroom due to a grocery store being further away. My mall is still up and running (was closed for awhile due to the pandemic.) and ALL it has is clothing stores, jewelry stores, and food stands. Oh and the odd shoe store. The only store that I'll even walk in to browse is FYE. Back in the day it was gamestop, etc. But now that they are the most hated store on the planet, there's really no reason to go to a mall. Malls are for highschool girls, and their accompanying boyfriends/friends who just want an excuse to hang out with a hot girl. As that's literally the only crowd they cater to now. HS girls going on shopping sprees and the guys go for eye candy the entire time. Once you get out of highschool, the mall is an extremely boring place. Well, until your a senior. Then you spend all day at the mall at JCP, or Macy's. (Seriously the amount of senior customers I see at my local mall macy's could fill a damn nursing home.) Hell that's the only reason why I go to a mall in my off time for a bit. People watching. There are still quite a bit of girls 21+ who frequent malls. And just like walmart, girls seem to dress extremely slutty. Almost as if it's a requirement to enter the mall. "Um, ma'am, I'm sorry but you don't look slutty enough. We can't allow you inside. Please change."
@Kurogane -sensei Back in the 90s, used to be the same way here in the US. At least in the areas I've lived in. You could guarantee a really unique stand was waiting for you at the mall. Hell there was this one stand that sold anime figures. I'd convince my grandfather to buy me one every time we'd go to the mall. And I'm not talking cheap figures either. I'm talking $100+ each visit. Absolutely loved that stand. Of course being a kid, I destroyed or lost all those figures. And of course, given who's company I was in, I wasn't allowed to buy the risque figures. But I'd definitely look at em out of the corner of my eye.
Yeah when I was younger, malls I went to had book stores, record stores, better quality clothing stores, a whole bunch of variety of different stuff that catered to lots of groups of people etc, now most are not available
Malls are a bit boring in my opinion. Most of them no longer have book stores. They sell the same kinds of low quality clothing and shoes. There isn't much interesting to do there. I can buy stuff from home. I'd rather spend my time elsewhere.
I think a big part of the problem is that stores have become to utilitarian and boring. That's ok for big box stores in shopping centers, but it doesn't work for malls. Malls need the type of stores that are fun to browse and just hang out in, even if you don't intend to buy anything. Remember stores like Natural Wonders or the toy store Zany Brainy? Or Halloween stores that felt like a haunted house exhibit? You felt like you were visiting a fun interactive children's museum when you went in one of those kinds of stores. They had all kinds of fun, unique merchandise that was out on display and you could just go in there to play with the stuff. That's the kind of thing malls need to have, especially the smaller ones that aren't able to put in things like indoor amusement parks. Unfortunately, I guess those kinds of stores can only profit in a boom economy and in the world that existed before the internet. (at least in the U.S, anyway)
Remember the Discovery Channel store and the Imaginarium? No better places to find cool gifts. I re-visited my old favorite mall for the first time in a decade, and was pleasantly shocked they still had a Spencer's and a Claire's in there. But even that visit was like 2 years ago, so who knows now.
This! Everything feels so sterile. Off white paint and no soul. Same with outside the mall too. I remember pizza huts and taco bells had unique buildings. Now they're all square and plain.
Mainly laziness of the ruling business class. They can make millions doing virtually nothing- just copy paste the same old designs- send jobs overseas, make money. The rent is insanely high for mall stores. Yet I don't see how it can cost that much to build or operate a mall. Seems like they expect insanely high profit margins simply because they made them in the past- then everyone wants in on it so they built too many malls. Then the second thing is mainly its all clothing stores. Even if an arcade or something opens up they eventually go under because of the insane rent. It would make sense to put a bowling alley or Dave and Busters or something at the end instead of a SEARs or whatever. The mall around here the restaurants are the only thing doing well in it. The business class aren't smart enough to figure out that activity based shops would do well also. Even the clothing stores I seldom see interesting clothes. The items they order seem to all be on auto-pilot- no thinking involved. I could go online and find more interesting outfits to put on display at these places in many cases. Similar when I worked at restaurants- none of the managers would actually managed, even though they got paid good salaries. The workers get paid poverty wages and have to both do all the work and also take on all the management duties. If there is a problem you have to resolve it yourself- manager doesn't manage. Schedule aren't written right- either too many or too little schedule so you have to adjust when you get there- some go home- or call in extra help or do the job of two people, bad workers never get fired, good ones never get promoted. The "manager" just copies and pastes everything they did last week- its all on autopilot. When I contact the business owners like- your business is being severely mismanaged. It means a lower quality product when I want to buy something, it means I make less money and have a miserable experience when I work there and it means you make less profit. The owners just get annoyed at me- they could care less since they make huge profits sitting back and doing nothing except own the business. Then they pay big salaries to manages who sit back and do nothing and the little guy is left living homeless while working a full time job and expected to constantly compensate for the lack of leadership anywhere. I'd say we need to tax inheritance so that more of the ruling business class get there by merit instead of inheriting the position. And then also pay people a living wage and offer free or affordable college to anyone who keeps good grades. And offer $2,000 checks for anyone who is on welfare and will get their tubes tied so we can limit the amount of idiots being born each year. Then have a merit based immigration system. It would manifest itself in non-obvious ways such as the fact that we'd have more businesses that are well managed and less malls dying.
People "just hanging out, even if they don't intend to buy anything" is what leads to store closings. A store doesn't make money off people hanging out, and that's what most people did at malls. Guys certainly didn't buy much at malls, because they were 90% clothing and shoe stores.
"I'm going to start up a store where people can just come hang out and not buy anything," said NO PERSON EVER. You millennials are so dang cute, though.
Can't find any cute clothes at malls. The new aesthetic, influenced by Instagram, TikTok and other social media apps makes it hard for fast fashion brands to keep up, since they still think, that people are interested in skinny jeans and graphic t-shirts, when in reality- people want something stylish for affordable price. Therefore, people choose internet shops as an alternative. And as a designer myself, I see no problem in making stylish affordable.
Thats cuz you cant actually hang out and have fun anymore. Too many karens and people angry with their own lives so they don’t like seeing anyone else have fun.
Same here. There was a massive Toys r Us store that closed down near where I live and it was purchased and is currently being turned into a gym / sports complex.
@@oyster3145 That's a great idea. There is one that closed where I live and then was turned into a furniture store right before covid hit and now it's an empty building again.
Theres was an abandoned mall near where I lived as a teenager and we used it as a drifting circuit. I also crashed my car in there and had to declare to my insurance how I crashed.....yeah I didn’t get paid out for it
Abandoned malls could be used as hospitals or homeless shelters. Either that or just use them as big skate parks so we could live out our pro skater dreams.
Here in monroe county, Rochester regional health has been using parts of the malls for emergency care. While it’s nice the space is being used, it feels more like a locust infestation rather than a revitalization of vacant space
@@MrCleitus feel free to deal with as much crime as you bring on yourself by failing to support policies that prevent people needing to rob you to survive. SO glad I dont' live in the US with such selfish people!
Same here in Chile, but not right now with the pandemic. I think that is about were the mall is located. Here in Chile the malls are located in the city center or close to important commercial zones and I think that malls in USA are away from them. Pd. Sometimes the malls are close to important mass transit station.
I went to a mall in Vietnam, back in January and it was so crowded that it was impossible not to rub up against someone. I cannot speak for the rest of the world, but Vietnamese malls were not experiencing this problem. So it may just be an American problem.
@Takeda takahashi Millennials and gen Y are the same group so this is only half true because the older end of the millennials still mall shop because that's how they gew up.
I grew up in 1980s USA and lived in Moscow, Russia for the last 6 years. Their huge, fancy malls are very much still packed. It's clearly a cultural difference.
Nowadays Majority of us r shopping in online ...My parents used to take me to malls to buy me clothes and shoes ...now I buy it Online and, it’s pointless to go to malls ....
Thats just because we got it here much later. Ours are fully packed with migrants who pay nothing just sit at food court. Middle class shops online since the COVID. Malls in Russia have not much time left.
@@bikmaharjan9497 They're also at major transport hubs. They have car parking, but teens can get to them via walking or public transport too & basically if teens in particular want to go out ANYWHERE with friends, they will be passing or in very easy access of a major mall in teh process, so it motivates them to go there. The US on the other hand builds malls in the middle of no-where, with nothing but what the mall provides accessible if taking a car trip there, so no wonder theirs are dying!
I remember when I was in middle school and high school in the late 80's early 90's the mall was THE place to be. Everybody would go after school to hang out. It was a great time.
Brands, I think? If you're going to buy Michael Kors, most people wouldn't go to target. Same thing for jewelry, perfumes, etc. At Target, you expect cheaper, everyday things. Though I would say, online shopping is nice at Macy's because they often have great deals on expensive stuff (like getting a $300 jacket for $50).
Yea I live near a outlet mall and many people go and hang. Maybe because they adapted to modern day standards, clean, benches. Would love to see a video about their success
For hanging out and just relaxing, yes, these malls are fine. But in terms of actual sales, I would say they are decreasing. Most people have switched to online shopping for better prices, selection, etc.
@@thepeoplestightend1939 You see people with tons of bags at outlets. Maybe because they have alot of stuff you can't find at other stores or because there's tons of sales but it takes forever to pay for items due to the long check out lines at outlets .
I wouldn’t be surprised if Malls are eventually occupied by much smaller home grown businesses, rather than the chains you usually associate with large malls.
I doubt it. Malls are now mostly places to hangout or look at clothing and purchase items in person. We can now purchase anything online, so why would anyone go to a home business when a mall would be much funner? Yes malls are closing down, but the biggest and more central ones are still thriving
Yes I remember a time when malls (we call them shopping centres in the uk ) had more independent stores back in the 80s, shopping was kind of more interesting experience back then as each store was unique. Would be nice to see them again and independent shop keepers rather than chains.
In smaller countries with crappier online shopping, the mall isn't dying as quickly. I love the mall. If you're not an off the rack fit It's great to be able to try on clothes.
Here in the Philippines, so many malls are awesome, mainly because of affordable prices as well as entertainment leisure. Not sure why people still care only about shopping in a mall rather than having fun in a mall like watch a movie, playing at an arcade or playing Bowling. Heck, many Bowling centers in the Philippines aren’t dying too because they’re in malls as well and even the ones aren’t in malls were still in good shape til this day.
You have that reversed actually. Amazon has invested millions, if not billions, into major local warehouses in various countries, so as to try to make a dent in the shopping market, but no matter what they do, they simply cannot compete with the convenience of well placed & managed malls. Online shopping only takes over in countries that have crappy malls, ie the US
In the 70s every town/city had it's mall, and it was Air Conditioned. And they were different from each other. Different stores, snacks and products. It was fun to drive to a different city/mall on the weekend to see what they had. Pretty soon they became the same, the same shops and food outlets took over. Soon all the clothing stores at the mall were owned by the same head company, same with shoe, jewelry and music stores. Once you knew there was no competition and the prices were fixed you felt cheated and manipulated. There was no reason to go to any but the biggest malls. McDonald's, Burger King, Dairy Queen and KFC chased out the cool international snack places. Rents kept going up chasing the last of the small unique stores/food places out. The fun was gone, and the mall became a place to go when you just needed a new pair of shoes or jeans, nothing more.
Kevin Fernandes well what I mean is if I get a prepaid debit card they have no way of tracking what I get if you know what I mean. But at least there is Safeway
and with middle class essentially dead, who is going to be able to afford all these luxuries? The wealthy only makes up less than 5% of the US population. Seems like a waste to me.
I'm older with a young mind and I still love malls but there are too many worthless or silly stores or ones that are too high-priced, sorry, expensive fast food places and modern designs that I don't like. Also I counted 8 to 12 empty spaces for stores that are out of business for years because rent is too high at $10,000 a month is what they tell me.
I never understood charging so much that no one's paying. like how is that a good business model? No wonder every time we build something new it's just a matter of time until it goes vacant and then someone gets the bright idea to tear down some new land and build something else because "this time it'll work out"
as a teen from Turkey, Malls of the 80's from the movies seem like genuinely cool places for gathering when there was no social media... Malls were much more aesthetic then, i kinda miss that even though i've never seen them
As a teen in the 80s, I can tell you you missed out on a lot of fun and friendships that could only be found in that setting. Not on social media or some app. People really are spending their LIVES looking at their "smartphones."
In Asia gyms, parks are inside of malls. It has to do with the fact that US is sooo spread out. It's more convenient to have it delivered rather than driving far away just to shop. But in Asia you live above a mall.
Filipino malls will never die because of the job opportunities people benefit from. The demand is good, therefore they sustained great success over the past few decades.
I actually love the fact that my country is a little behind.. my hometown opened it’s first big mall a year ago! Online shopping isn’t used as much yet.. I’m glad :))
I live in Asia and our country just built ten new malls in 2017/2018, and I'm like "How you gonna sustain that shit in the age of online shopping?" I loved hanging out at the mall in the 90s and the 2000s. But now I just go in to get one item or to watch a movie at the cinema and get the hell out asap.
@@dhrgkbqxtjr2743 That's why in Indonesia. Average mall have a mini disneyland at the top floor. And super market at ground floor. And a lot of restaurant, cafe and any hangout place. The clothest store itself is be diminished. No wonder even in internet era people in here love malls.
@@PraiseworthyNobleman I live in Malaysia and I think we only have 1 mall that has amusement park inside. That's Berjaya Times Square and from what I hear it's not doing as well as it used to when it first opened.
I love malls! I love the smell of Cinnabon & auntie anne's. I love the mall around Christmas time & the Christmas music. nostalgia. It’s not the same vibe.
I'm Gen Z and absolutely hate what is happening :'( I absolutely love going to the mall and hanging out with my friends/ finding things to buy. I know most in my generation love online shopping tho :/
I am also Gen Z (23), I don’t enjoy going to malls. They’re pretty far away from my house and they aren’t that fashionable in my opinion. Cost probably $20-$30 to get an Uber ride to the mall from my house. I’m also plus size so there’s no guarantee that I’m going to find something to even wear since there are max 4 stores I can shop at and two of them are grandma stores. I’d rather shop online because I can take my time and save my money, compare prices, plus there’s always returns.
jnxe I believe that’s a joke, you know how some Africans don’t like people using black to associate with African American people? I believe Eddie W is using it ironically to make a joke about that.
What I've noticed throughout the years is that before social media was big, people used to go to the malls to SOCIALIZE and nobody does that becausw of snapchat. Sad times
@@MiCocinitaMX The problem with malls is that you can only see people within a small radius of you. How do you invite relatives or friends from across a continent to visit the same mall as you on a whim?
@The Stammering Dunce "People Like You" like if you really knew who I am through a RUclips Comment Section... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ You've never met me a day in your life, and you're sitting hear trying to assume MY beliefs?? and what I think?? Comical... Obviously there are other places you can Socialize with others in person, I'm not even saying that Malls are the only places to interact, that was strictly you that made that claim, so it's hypocritical on Your part to even try to attack me over something I've never said, putting words in my mouth, maybe if you went out more and stop being a little punk like your parents raised you to be and miserably failed you as a real social being, then maybe you wouldn't be the cynical person you are through YT comments acting like the world evolves around your "Introvert" poser ass PLEASE! I have a mental disorder that's very known and been studied on for DECADES that interferes certain abilities with social interactions with other people, and I STILL GO OUT AND TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, WTF is your excuse?? And for the record, not ONCE have I EVER become so emotionally attached to a stupid building like you claim that I do, again, you assumptions are straight FICTION, and far from the Truth "You consider anyone who dislikes malls as hermits" WTF does that even mean??? Are you calling yourself a muppet character?? Gosh where the hell were your parents growing up?? They've obviously didn't give you enough attention for you to assume AGAIN that "I consider anyone who dislikes malls as hermits" do you realize how stupid you just sounded??? Straight Cringe... "How can you expect me to feel sorry for you?" Really I should be asking YOU that question, cause obviously you have undergoing problems I don't want to know about, and you should seek a therapist ASAP, get help immediately, you seem like the type whose the quiet kid in school and anything can happen to piss you off and you end up pulling out that backpack, stay the hell away from me...
There's a mall in Malaysia called Sunway Pyramid with an Egyptian theme & aesthetic with an indoor ice skating rink, a man-made surf park, waterpark, outdoor theme park safari zoo (yes, with white lions and everything), bowling alley, archery rink & laser tag. The mall is also connected within walking distance to its own university & hospital and it also has a elevated bus route around the entire area for people to travel from one end to another. It's in the top 10 biggest malls in the world & the place is still packed when I visited last week. It's like an alternated universe for malls in America lol
Irondequoit Mall in Rochester shown numerous times in the shots that are credited “they proper people”, I remember when it opened in the early 90’s , it failed quickly and was pretty much empty within 10 years
Porque la gente mexicana no se ha acostumbrado comprar en linea pues asociamos las compras en línea como fraude o miedo de que no lleguen las cosas y preferimos comprar en tiendas físicas
The third place should never be digital, humans need real physical presence and contact with other humans to maintain good mental health and to prevent the social toxicity of today
@@jneusbaum3697 well my elderly parents are in assisted living which feels like a nursing home. It would be nice for them to be somewhere they can have some freedom to do things and have some independence.
when you have social media malls need to fill an experience rather than just shopping no one goes to just hang out and shop anymore people go for an experience.
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How much office space is needed though? I recently moved from the city to the suburbs and there are so many office buildings, and I would imagine some of these people could work from home, but why are so many office buildings needed in a place where there is little to do.
E-commerce is a huge player in taking market share obviously, however, Millennials value experiences and attractions higher than previous generations and because of this the "attraction" malls in nice areas are doing very well and will carry the "mall" into the future. Attractionless malls, outdated/bland malls, and those in rougher/questionable areas will close. It is simply the free market determining what malls are viable into the future in an oversaturated and competitive environment. The idea of what the mall is is becoming more narrowly defined. Sure there may not be a widespread culture of the mall ingrained into the American psyche anymore but this ongoing free market determinism of the "mall" will ensure a higher quality mall experience in the future for any mall goers for the few times a year they may go there..
I went to some mall in Rochester MN in 2017 and like most malls, it had a few anchor stores, in this case: JCPenny, Sears, and Macy's. The sears was closed and covered the sign and entrance with particle board. The Macy's was creepily empty with only a few employees. And the JCPennys for some reason was packed with people and employees. The vending machines were empty, the claw machine had stuff from movies that came out years ago. And some stores were open but had these HUGE closing sales like there was some local video rental shop selling VHS tapes for 3 for 1$ and the guy said they were not renting at this time. He was also very eager to see me and my aunt come in, like "Hello would you like to browse our many DVD sets, or maybe check out our new Blu-Ray selection!?" Like dude just let me walk around ok?
they should just do what my town is doing. when we closed the one mall in town, we decided to turn it into senior housing on one side and then the rest into a shopping plaza rather than a new mall.
Well i dont think i would call 2000s the decade that start killing malls most mall in 2000s became megamalls and a lot malls became modernization in eastern europe the shopping malls have biggest boom in 2000s
Yeah. No one wants to keep spending and spending more and more money in malls lol. I just go to the mall to do shopping and thats litterally it. Nothing else.
The mall still has one great purpose tho, and thats movie theatres, which i strongly believe will not go away because even though streaming is now a thing there is nothing like seeing a movie in theatre.
All the malls where I live or where my parents live don't have any. I went to one many years ago, South of Springfield I think, and thought that is what these other malls should try. The only mall that I go to with a somewhat built in movie theater is in Gurnee, and it's mostly for the 4DX movies.
Most malls don't have theaters anymore. Theaters have wised up and separated themselves from the mall industry. At least in my state. I think there's ONE theater in a mall and it's located 4 and a half hours away from my city.
Here in the Philippines malls are the place to go to watch movies, I've never seen a stand alone movie theater here. My mom says there have been stand alone theaters before but they're now all in malls
At :41 they show footage from the Mall Of America probably 15+ years ago. Southdale is also still very popular and open. Besides the Burnsville center all of Minnesotas twin cities malls are doing just fine. Roseville, Eagan outlets, Southdale, Woodbury, Edina Galleria, Maplewood, Ridgedale, Westend and I’m forgetting a few. None of these are ever dead go to any one on a weekend or evening and they are packed even yesterday 10/03/2020 the MOA was packed during a pandemic
It sure is! I was surprised to see it as well haha They used older footage. Now there’s a bridge that connects to the upper floor from an adjacent parking garage.
I live in a small town with a small mall, we get harsh winters and have a thriving arts and craft community in the warmer months. I wonder why the owners don't let local artists and farmers markets rent space in the mall??? They're dying because they aren't changing with consumers wants.
Here in Arizona I have learned that the only malls that still thrive A LOT are malls that are either mainly Hispanic or malls that have hundreds of trendy stores inside them like Starbucks, Apple store, Nike, and etc.
Here in NC, that’s all you see at malls are a few Hispanics here and there, and just a few of them. It’s not crowded at all. That said, many malls are on their last leg.
Our mall has been demolished last year. I miss my local FYE and Spencers! I have not been in those stores in 10 years! I used to love buying cds, dvds, blu-ray and T-shirts! Bought so many Webkinz plush toys from FYE! Used to eat chinese food every time we went to the mall! 📀🎄🎅🏼😁🎽
God it’s so crazy. Growing up in the 90s and early 2000s the mall was very popular in my area and I remember begging my mom to take me to the mall to buy my school clothes lol dam how things change
I myself am trying to shop less online because I'm starting to see the effects it has around me and trying to support more local businesses where I can
Idk about that I live in the Broward county area of Florida and the malls here are still going strong even with this pandemic so I think it depends on where you live.
I think People from that time would have never believed you if you went back and told them all these huge malls would close down some day. They would look at you like you were crazy. Nothing lasts forever. This sounds crazy and most here won't believe it but in 40 give or take years people will be making videos about Walmart stores going out of business because even Walmart won't last forever. I believe online shopping will last because different people can open a online store without spending millions of dollars to build a store. Love it or hate it online shopping is here to stay. Thank you for the video.
I worked in my local mall in the late 80’s and early 90’s and what a great place. Now, not so much. I’m surprised it survived Covid but it’s still here. I actually have not been in it in years.
Give it a few years, and they will die too. Consumerism only makes people happy for so long. Besides, I would have thought Manila traffic would prevent people from getting to the malls in the first place.
American malls: *dying* 😔
Asian malls: •TWENTY STORIES HIGH•
YeeYeet lol Mall of Asia :) literally a whole complex
Equity Philippines has the biggest mall of Asia doe •-•
Dubai biggest mall lol
They're popping up like crazy in India
PHCuber it’s actually China who has the biggest. PH and Dubai comes next.
1.) Decline of middle class
2.) Too many malls
3.) Internet and e-commerce
Yeah pretty much the real reason.
And many have become unsafe (hangouts for criminals and gangs)
AngelPandaEarth Young people moving to the cities a non-factor?
middle class was booming in 2018 and 2019. y'all got short term memory
2 and little to none of 3
Its not the mall that's dead, its the stores that are dead.
Without stores there are no malls.
Genius
Malls are becoming more entertainment venues. More dave and busters, bowling places, raceways etc... with variety of different culture foods
People don’t buy things from the mall these days they just go to eat and hang out
right? i love going to malls but whenever i go it seems like there's not a single store that i like. either they were weird cheap stores, or expensive luxury stores for the rich. even the restaurants aren't as good, and they've "modernized" mall designs and i think they look so boring now, especially without any arcades.
Alternative title: The Rise and Fall of the Mall in the US
Alternative alternative title. The rise and fall of the mall in democrat states.
Conservative states who EARN their money will go right back to shopping
Dylan Zrim Its not like this in canada so no really
@@dylanzrim1011 God here he goes again with political stuff
@@dorito5086 It's just showed how separated is the US now, just like North and South Korea
Here in LA alot of smaller Malls have Been closing but bigger ones get even bigger
I love capitalism
Glip Klopsyiop same
Its like that everywhere, small malls died because bigger malls an hour away are wayyy better.
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Glendale mall is always packed
america: malls failing
canada: YOU GET A MALL YOU GET A MALL EVERYONE GETS A MALL!
I live in a regular town, maybe on the smaller side, in Ontario and the mall here is still doing well even with the restrictions due to covid. But then, the middle class here in Canada do thrive 😌
FLoof :D I live in London and yeah the malls are always busy here. There’s only one big mall that’s basically dead but only cause there isn’t much there.
FLoof :D Yeah there’s Masonville, White Oaks and another one called Westmount. Westmount is the dead one but it used to be packed as well like 10 years ago but all the good stores moved out so no one goes there that much now. Also White oaks mall is mostly crowded on weekends.
Squareone just kepps on expanding
Lol
Short answer: The economic decline of the middle class in the USA.
Once this country recovers from the pandemic and opens its northern border again, I'm moving to Canada, their middle class is still going strong, and they have many more shopping malls per capita.
@@Justin-Hill-1987 middle class in Canada just jumped to 135k to be considered one.
Rick Hunter That’s only for Toronto
@juan mateus too true. i live in a third world country and even in this pandemic and social distancing measures, malls are still up and running as usual.
The middle class is buying on line instead of at brick and mortar shops
Fun fact. The reason why the mall was created in the first place was because of Minnesota's notoriously harsh Winters. People needed something to do indoors.
Really? I didn’t know that and I live in Minnesota. The Mall of America is pretty great though!
Anyone else uncomfortable with the way she said Edina. It’s “E-Dine-Uh”, not “E-Deen-A”
Yup and that's why malls are so popular in hot places like the middle east and SE asia.
@@JaredAppel Exactly. Thank you.
LagiNaLangAko23 no??
Meanwhile where I live, the nearest mall’s parking lot is almost always full
Yeah I live in Miami and the mall is ALWAYS full 😂
Ikr I live near Towson and it’s impossible to nit look around a corner and see someone
No one wants to go to malls because no one wants to pay $10 for a pretzel.
Them parking be far too, my feet be hurting walking to my car to the inside
@@lakeatman504 Yes. For some reason, multi-story parking garages are not popular for malls. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one suburban mall that has one... and even it still has extensive parking lots around it as well. I can sort of get that it doesn't "look pretty", but honestly, acres of feet blistering asphalt isn't attractive either, even with the rare forlorn tree here and there.
Pretzels are nasty. All my homies hate pretzels
Elite DF Bruh pretzels are so good
@@PhoenyxAshe A mall in Atlanta Georgia has it
I wish that malls had something more than generic clothing stores, generic jewelry stores, or the usual restaurants we all see everywhere. And do we really need 5 different stores that sell bath salts and soap?
THIS! This is the real reason why malls are closing up. The mall near my house, I never go to unless I'm out and about working side gigs (Uber, Grubhub, et all) and need a place to use the restroom due to a grocery store being further away. My mall is still up and running (was closed for awhile due to the pandemic.) and ALL it has is clothing stores, jewelry stores, and food stands. Oh and the odd shoe store. The only store that I'll even walk in to browse is FYE. Back in the day it was gamestop, etc. But now that they are the most hated store on the planet, there's really no reason to go to a mall. Malls are for highschool girls, and their accompanying boyfriends/friends who just want an excuse to hang out with a hot girl. As that's literally the only crowd they cater to now. HS girls going on shopping sprees and the guys go for eye candy the entire time. Once you get out of highschool, the mall is an extremely boring place. Well, until your a senior. Then you spend all day at the mall at JCP, or Macy's. (Seriously the amount of senior customers I see at my local mall macy's could fill a damn nursing home.)
Hell that's the only reason why I go to a mall in my off time for a bit. People watching. There are still quite a bit of girls 21+ who frequent malls. And just like walmart, girls seem to dress extremely slutty. Almost as if it's a requirement to enter the mall. "Um, ma'am, I'm sorry but you don't look slutty enough. We can't allow you inside. Please change."
@Kurogane -sensei Back in the 90s, used to be the same way here in the US. At least in the areas I've lived in. You could guarantee a really unique stand was waiting for you at the mall.
Hell there was this one stand that sold anime figures. I'd convince my grandfather to buy me one every time we'd go to the mall. And I'm not talking cheap figures either. I'm talking $100+ each visit. Absolutely loved that stand. Of course being a kid, I destroyed or lost all those figures. And of course, given who's company I was in, I wasn't allowed to buy the risque figures. But I'd definitely look at em out of the corner of my eye.
Malls need to be experienced driven and they will be in the future
Yeah when I was younger, malls I went to had book stores, record stores, better quality clothing stores, a whole bunch of variety of different stuff that catered to lots of groups of people etc, now most are not available
Malls are a bit boring in my opinion. Most of them no longer have book stores. They sell the same kinds of low quality clothing and shoes. There isn't much interesting to do there. I can buy stuff from home. I'd rather spend my time elsewhere.
I think a big part of the problem is that stores have become to utilitarian and boring. That's ok for big box stores in shopping centers, but it doesn't work for malls. Malls need the type of stores that are fun to browse and just hang out in, even if you don't intend to buy anything. Remember stores like Natural Wonders or the toy store Zany Brainy? Or Halloween stores that felt like a haunted house exhibit? You felt like you were visiting a fun interactive children's museum when you went in one of those kinds of stores. They had all kinds of fun, unique merchandise that was out on display and you could just go in there to play with the stuff. That's the kind of thing malls need to have, especially the smaller ones that aren't able to put in things like indoor amusement parks. Unfortunately, I guess those kinds of stores can only profit in a boom economy and in the world that existed before the internet. (at least in the U.S, anyway)
Remember the Discovery Channel store and the Imaginarium? No better places to find cool gifts. I re-visited my old favorite mall for the first time in a decade, and was pleasantly shocked they still had a Spencer's and a Claire's in there. But even that visit was like 2 years ago, so who knows now.
This! Everything feels so sterile. Off white paint and no soul. Same with outside the mall too. I remember pizza huts and taco bells had unique buildings. Now they're all square and plain.
Mainly laziness of the ruling business class. They can make millions doing virtually nothing- just copy paste the same old designs- send jobs overseas, make money. The rent is insanely high for mall stores. Yet I don't see how it can cost that much to build or operate a mall. Seems like they expect insanely high profit margins simply because they made them in the past- then everyone wants in on it so they built too many malls.
Then the second thing is mainly its all clothing stores. Even if an arcade or something opens up they eventually go under because of the insane rent. It would make sense to put a bowling alley or Dave and Busters or something at the end instead of a SEARs or whatever. The mall around here the restaurants are the only thing doing well in it. The business class aren't smart enough to figure out that activity based shops would do well also.
Even the clothing stores I seldom see interesting clothes. The items they order seem to all be on auto-pilot- no thinking involved. I could go online and find more interesting outfits to put on display at these places in many cases. Similar when I worked at restaurants- none of the managers would actually managed, even though they got paid good salaries. The workers get paid poverty wages and have to both do all the work and also take on all the management duties. If there is a problem you have to resolve it yourself- manager doesn't manage. Schedule aren't written right- either too many or too little schedule so you have to adjust when you get there- some go home- or call in extra help or do the job of two people, bad workers never get fired, good ones never get promoted. The "manager" just copies and pastes everything they did last week- its all on autopilot.
When I contact the business owners like- your business is being severely mismanaged. It means a lower quality product when I want to buy something, it means I make less money and have a miserable experience when I work there and it means you make less profit. The owners just get annoyed at me- they could care less since they make huge profits sitting back and doing nothing except own the business. Then they pay big salaries to manages who sit back and do nothing and the little guy is left living homeless while working a full time job and expected to constantly compensate for the lack of leadership anywhere.
I'd say we need to tax inheritance so that more of the ruling business class get there by merit instead of inheriting the position. And then also pay people a living wage and offer free or affordable college to anyone who keeps good grades. And offer $2,000 checks for anyone who is on welfare and will get their tubes tied so we can limit the amount of idiots being born each year. Then have a merit based immigration system. It would manifest itself in non-obvious ways such as the fact that we'd have more businesses that are well managed and less malls dying.
People "just hanging out, even if they don't intend to buy anything" is what leads to store closings. A store doesn't make money off people hanging out, and that's what most people did at malls. Guys certainly didn't buy much at malls, because they were 90% clothing and shoe stores.
"I'm going to start up a store where people can just come hang out and not buy anything," said NO PERSON EVER.
You millennials are so dang cute, though.
the short answer: the internet
Online shopping
Amazon
Can't find any cute clothes at malls.
The new aesthetic, influenced by Instagram, TikTok and other social media apps makes it hard for fast fashion brands to keep up, since they still think, that people are interested in skinny jeans and graphic t-shirts, when in reality- people want something stylish for affordable price. Therefore, people choose internet shops as an alternative.
And as a designer myself, I see no problem in making stylish affordable.
@@cyborgjanis8247 exactly, i often go to china to buy clothes cuz its so affordable and cute
Elisha China ew
These malls look more abandoned than my social life
you funny
Wow 😐
I hate myself and need to die
_It actually hurts when I relate to this._
So fanny.
It’s kind of sad malls are dying. I would love to hang out at a mall with friends, but no one wants to.
not the one I went to a few months ago, it was insanely packed, AND during a pandemic...
@@fl0pZ3 yeah it’s packed where I live yoo
@@fl0pZ3 where I live too
Thats cuz you cant actually hang out and have fun anymore. Too many karens and people angry with their own lives so they don’t like seeing anyone else have fun.
tell them its abandoned
I always thought about the potential of abandoned malls. You could use that space for anything.
Same here. There was a massive Toys r Us store that closed down near where I live and it was purchased and is currently being turned into a gym / sports complex.
@@oyster3145 That's a great idea. There is one that closed where I live and then was turned into a furniture store right before covid hit and now it's an empty building again.
Jeff Bezos is basically waiting for the perfect time so he can turn all the abandoned malls into fulfillment centers
The only people really using it is Amazon...
Theres was an abandoned mall near where I lived as a teenager and we used it as a drifting circuit. I also crashed my car in there and had to declare to my insurance how I crashed.....yeah I didn’t get paid out for it
Anyone else find it symbolic that a mall named “American Dream” is dying?
Yes
nope
American Dream didn't even open!! biggest waste of tax dollars in NJ ever lol
Prayingmantis 211 it is nice when the government actually makes a good choice (rarely)
It never even opened stores there. It was a disaster from the beginning.
Abandoned malls could be used as hospitals or homeless shelters.
Either that or just use them as big skate parks so we could live out our pro skater dreams.
In the capitalist society we live in there is no money to be made in helping people/animals so that will never happen....
Here in monroe county, Rochester regional health has been using parts of the malls for emergency care. While it’s nice the space is being used, it feels more like a locust infestation rather than a revitalization of vacant space
@@elmobolan4274 Feel free to donate as much of your own money to these causes as you like.
@@MrCleitus feel free to deal with as much crime as you bring on yourself by failing to support policies that prevent people needing to rob you to survive. SO glad I dont' live in the US with such selfish people!
I feel like this is an American problem, like I’m from Toronto, and like... the malls be poppin still during COVID. I don’t know, opinions?
as an italian i can tell you the same
Same here in Chile, but not right now with the pandemic. I think that is about were the mall is located. Here in Chile the malls are located in the city center or close to important commercial zones and I think that malls in USA are away from them.
Pd. Sometimes the malls are close to important mass transit station.
Same here in Greece and Romania!
I went to a mall in Vietnam, back in January and it was so crowded that it was impossible not to rub up against someone. I cannot speak for the rest of the world, but Vietnamese malls were not experiencing this problem. So it may just be an American problem.
Same in Peru. Except for covid, malls are thriving
Everything in the mall is more expensive than in the internet. Younger generation (Y - Z) is buying their stuff more and more from the internet
@Takeda takahashi you mean on the interweb and are buying their thangs
Jessica Bolles yea but u gottta wait two weeks
@@eddiew2325 in China you can order stuff and it comes in a few hours
Brick Life sry im Chinese living in a big city but i must tell one hour delivery never happened
@Takeda takahashi Millennials and gen Y are the same group so this is only half true because the older end of the millennials still mall shop because that's how they gew up.
I grew up in 1980s USA and lived in Moscow, Russia for the last 6 years. Their huge, fancy malls are very much still packed. It's clearly a cultural difference.
Nowadays Majority of us r shopping in online ...My parents used to take me to malls to buy me clothes and shoes ...now I buy it Online and, it’s pointless to go to malls ....
It is true. The decadence of the USA c.1980s has finally made it to the former Soviets. Back then they longed for our blue jeans and mall culture.
Thats just because we got it here much later. Ours are fully packed with migrants who pay nothing just sit at food court. Middle class shops online since the COVID. Malls in Russia have not much time left.
@@S1feR90A talking about predicting the future...
@@bikmaharjan9497 They're also at major transport hubs. They have car parking, but teens can get to them via walking or public transport too & basically if teens in particular want to go out ANYWHERE with friends, they will be passing or in very easy access of a major mall in teh process, so it motivates them to go there. The US on the other hand builds malls in the middle of no-where, with nothing but what the mall provides accessible if taking a car trip there, so no wonder theirs are dying!
I remember when I was in middle school and high school in the late 80's early 90's the mall was THE place to be. Everybody would go after school to hang out. It was a great time.
Same but in 2019 we would play arcades and go shopping everyday and buy bunch of foods afterschool
That was me just 2 years ago... I don’t know what happened...
Online shopping these days
Imi nhigh scool right now we go to th mall
In Africa the mall is where rich kids go after school....the rest of us head home and pass by the kiisk
Macy's is to expensive like legit they wanted to sell me a shirt for 50$ when at target they sold me for 10$
DD217 wOw maybe it’s people shopping at multiple stores with different price points and you not being classist.
Brands, I think? If you're going to buy Michael Kors, most people wouldn't go to target. Same thing for jewelry, perfumes, etc. At Target, you expect cheaper, everyday things.
Though I would say, online shopping is nice at Macy's because they often have great deals on expensive stuff (like getting a $300 jacket for $50).
The clearance section is where its at
*Ross
I saw school uniforms at Macy's for 20-30 dollars and school uniforms at a Walmart for 5 dollars
While in the Philippines, malls are gigantic and even has churches, waterparks, and koreans
Ah yes, the three most necessary things in life
@@dicksdrugsanddebutantes9305 lol AHAHAHAHA
@BOSS is we sure do
Because of the massive influx of Korean and Chinese tourists...
Yeah it’s amazing there, I really miss the SM!
Outdoor malls seem to be doing just fine imo.
Yea I live near a outlet mall and many people go and hang. Maybe because they adapted to modern day standards, clean, benches. Would love to see a video about their success
For hanging out and just relaxing, yes, these malls are fine. But in terms of actual sales, I would say they are decreasing. Most people have switched to online shopping for better prices, selection, etc.
True
@@thepeoplestightend1939 You see people with tons of bags at outlets. Maybe because they have alot of stuff you can't find at other stores or because there's tons of sales but it takes forever to pay for items due to the long check out lines at outlets .
NV objectively though online shopping might be worse. You can’t try on the clothes, you have to pay and wait for shipping.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Malls are eventually occupied by much smaller home grown businesses, rather than the chains you usually associate with large malls.
maybe make them homeless shelters. maybe low income housing.
Can you see the mall investors allowing a 90% decrease in rent? No. The land will be sold and investors paid out to reinvest in Tesla.
Yes, I just open little kiosks
I doubt it. Malls are now mostly places to hangout or look at clothing and purchase items in person. We can now purchase anything online, so why would anyone go to a home business when a mall would be much funner? Yes malls are closing down, but the biggest and more central ones are still thriving
Yes I remember a time when malls (we call them shopping centres in the uk ) had more independent stores back in the 80s, shopping was kind of more interesting experience back then as each store was unique. Would be nice to see them again and independent shop keepers rather than chains.
In smaller countries with crappier online shopping, the mall isn't dying as quickly.
I love the mall. If you're not an off the rack fit It's great to be able to try on clothes.
Here in the Philippines, so many malls are awesome, mainly because of affordable prices as well as entertainment leisure. Not sure why people still care only about shopping in a mall rather than having fun in a mall like watch a movie, playing at an arcade or playing Bowling. Heck, many Bowling centers in the Philippines aren’t dying too because they’re in malls as well and even the ones aren’t in malls were still in good shape til this day.
You have that reversed actually. Amazon has invested millions, if not billions, into major local warehouses in various countries, so as to try to make a dent in the shopping market, but no matter what they do, they simply cannot compete with the convenience of well placed & managed malls. Online shopping only takes over in countries that have crappy malls, ie the US
with Robin Sparkles' words:
"Let's go to the mall everybody!"
Faina Marlen I just thought that 😂
Only true fans know who she is!!!!
HAHA
And then go to the beach to build sand castles in the sand.
At least it is not Robin Sparkles' fault that malls are empty. 😂
It’s called “the mall” because, when it comes to stores, it’s got them all.
😄I get it, Good 1👍.
SM: We've got it all for you!
Well, it used to. I can remember when malls had so much more variety than what you find these days.
Oh god that song gives me so much nostalgia. I miss going to SM haha. I also miss Mall of Asia and Chinatown, but SM made my childhood
@@rdp09 beat me to it
In the 70s every town/city had it's mall, and it was Air Conditioned. And they were different from each other. Different stores, snacks and products. It was fun to drive to a different city/mall on the weekend to see what they had. Pretty soon they became the same, the same shops and food outlets took over. Soon all the clothing stores at the mall were owned by the same head company, same with shoe, jewelry and music stores. Once you knew there was no competition and the prices were fixed you felt cheated and manipulated. There was no reason to go to any but the biggest malls. McDonald's, Burger King, Dairy Queen and KFC chased out the cool international snack places. Rents kept going up chasing the last of the small unique stores/food places out. The fun was gone, and the mall became a place to go when you just needed a new pair of shoes or jeans, nothing more.
GameStop at my mall is the only way to get stuff without my parents knowing
The one that I will go when ever I go to the mall closed rip the Pokémon cards
GameStop is suffering like the mall lol
do you have visa debit? its not a credit card just a bank card you can purchase things on amazon with prime its cheaper and faster.
Kevin Fernandes well what I mean is if I get a prepaid debit card they have no way of tracking what I get if you know what I mean. But at least there is Safeway
Im not just talking about gamestop I'm talking about anything you would want to buy thats not near enough to go purchase in store
Convert these spaces into luxury housing. Put Whole Foods in the anchor spaces. Add a high society yoga pants store. They will explode in popularity.
Smart Idea
and with middle class essentially dead, who is going to be able to afford all these luxuries? The wealthy only makes up less than 5% of the US population. Seems like a waste to me.
@@matrix2000x2 I agree! Instead of turning it into luxury housing, turn it into AFFORDABLE housing.
@@matrix2000x2 Chinese investors who are never going to live there.
@@brett8460 we have affordable housing. It’s called the projects
I'm older with a young mind and I still love malls but there are too many worthless or silly stores or ones that are too high-priced, sorry, expensive fast food places and modern designs that I don't like. Also I counted 8 to 12 empty spaces for stores that are out of business for years because rent is too high at $10,000 a month is what they tell me.
That's cheap where I live. You could pay 4k for 600 sf here. Lol
I never understood charging so much that no one's paying. like how is that a good business model? No wonder every time we build something new it's just a matter of time until it goes vacant and then someone gets the bright idea to tear down some new land and build something else because "this time it'll work out"
as a teen from Turkey, Malls of the 80's from the movies seem like genuinely cool places for gathering when there was no social media... Malls were much more aesthetic then, i kinda miss that even though i've never seen them
Thats anemoia for you
As a teen in the 80s, I can tell you you missed out on a lot of fun and friendships that could only be found in that setting. Not on social media or some app. People really are spending their LIVES looking at their "smartphones."
Yeah mall in 80s did look cooler
New third places: patios, gyms, parks, friends' backyards
In Asia gyms, parks are inside of malls. It has to do with the fact that US is sooo spread out. It's more convenient to have it delivered rather than driving far away just to shop. But in Asia you live above a mall.
I miss going to the mall back in the 80's 90's and 2000's.
This strangely reminded me of Robin's "Let's go to the Mall" from HIMYM
Everybody come and play!
Throw every last care away!
Let’s go to the mall
TODAY
How much wood does the beaver ate.......
Malls in the Philippines never die because of CHEAP PRICES
I doubt it. Online selling is now on trend
@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 yep
Filipino malls will never die because of the job opportunities people benefit from. The demand is good, therefore they sustained great success over the past few decades.
nope, it is because the banking system of the philippines is mostly cash not a lot of people have bank accounts.
@Rolman80 80 Online commerce in philippines is next to impossible because of the banking system.
I actually love the fact that my country is a little behind.. my hometown opened it’s first big mall a year ago! Online shopping isn’t used as much yet.. I’m glad :))
A little? Malls have been closing in the USA since the 1970s...
America: Malls are dying
Asia: Our malls are still so strong
Canada: Our malls are strong, too!
@@juanzambrano1760 Ecuador as well, especially Guayaquil.
I live in Asia and our country just built ten new malls in 2017/2018, and I'm like "How you gonna sustain that shit in the age of online shopping?" I loved hanging out at the mall in the 90s and the 2000s. But now I just go in to get one item or to watch a movie at the cinema and get the hell out asap.
@@dhrgkbqxtjr2743 That's why in Indonesia. Average mall have a mini disneyland at the top floor. And super market at ground floor. And a lot of restaurant, cafe and any hangout place. The clothest store itself is be diminished. No wonder even in internet era people in here love malls.
@@PraiseworthyNobleman I live in Malaysia and I think we only have 1 mall that has amusement park inside. That's Berjaya Times Square and from what I hear it's not doing as well as it used to when it first opened.
I love malls! I love the smell of Cinnabon & auntie anne's. I love the mall around Christmas time & the Christmas music. nostalgia. It’s not the same vibe.
How about converting empty malls into giant homeless shelters?
great idea, but let me think about that a little bit
Yup. Theatres, Storage Rooms. Water parks. Almost anything that is Big.
@Master Of puppets why don't you turn YOUR house into a homeless shelter? Oh is it because YOU'RE too greedy?
@Master Of puppets oh so your house was the one the homeless guy was talking about where he was not let in, so you're still greedy at the end.
@Master Of puppets yes
I literally buy clothes to wear to the mall to buy more clothes. It's a nonsense cycle but it works.
It is a nonsense cycle. Don’t be enslaved by it and live miserably because of it.
We spend most our life time in work clothes and pjs. However we spend the most money on clothes to go out a few times a week/month.
a cog in the machine
Jea rite. Your comment is like from the 80’s
Long story short: Walmart & Amazon
Short story longer:
Target
Meijer
Fred Meyer
Kroger Marketplace
Long story even shorter: the internet
@@Justin-Hill-1987 never heard of any you mentioned except target
Internet
FARFETCH
I'm Gen Z and absolutely hate what is happening :'( I absolutely love going to
the mall and hanging out with my friends/ finding things to buy. I know most in my generation love online shopping tho :/
No one cares
I dont like buying most clothes online. Cant try them on.
I am also Gen Z (23), I don’t enjoy going to malls. They’re pretty far away from my house and they aren’t that fashionable in my opinion. Cost probably $20-$30 to get an Uber ride to the mall from my house. I’m also plus size so there’s no guarantee that I’m going to find something to even wear since there are max 4 stores I can shop at and two of them are grandma stores. I’d rather shop online because I can take my time and save my money, compare prices, plus there’s always returns.
@@c-train3630 I agree with this.
Dont worry, They get their payday on Black friday
no offense but its actually African American Friday
@@eddiew2325 black Friday has nothing to do with race you incel
@@eddiew2325 it has nothing to do with black people lmao
jnxe I believe that’s a joke, you know how some Africans don’t like people using black to associate with African American people? I believe Eddie W is using it ironically to make a joke about that.
@@id34l48 r/woosh
What I've noticed throughout the years is that before social media was big, people used to go to the malls to SOCIALIZE and nobody does that becausw of snapchat. Sad times
@The Stammering Dunce Thats not sad, thats just hanging out and you're getting a chance to meet new people.
old head lol
@@MiCocinitaMX The problem with malls is that you can only see people within a small radius of you. How do you invite relatives or friends from across a continent to visit the same mall as you on a whim?
@The Stammering Dunce How TF is that sad?? You're obviously the type who doesn't know what it's like to actually socialize with REAL PEOPLE in PERSON
@The Stammering Dunce "People Like You" like if you really knew who I am through a RUclips Comment Section...
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You've never met me a day in your life, and you're sitting hear trying to assume MY beliefs?? and what I think??
Comical...
Obviously there are other places you can Socialize with others in person, I'm not even saying that Malls are the only places to interact, that was strictly you that made that claim, so it's hypocritical on Your part to even try to attack me over something I've never said, putting words in my mouth, maybe if you went out more and stop being a little punk like your parents raised you to be and miserably failed you as a real social being, then maybe you wouldn't be the cynical person you are through YT comments acting like the world evolves around your "Introvert" poser ass
PLEASE! I have a mental disorder that's very known and been studied on for DECADES that interferes certain abilities with social interactions with other people, and I STILL GO OUT AND TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, WTF is your excuse??
And for the record, not ONCE have I EVER become so emotionally attached to a stupid building like you claim that I do, again, you assumptions are straight FICTION, and far from the Truth
"You consider anyone who dislikes malls as hermits" WTF does that even mean??? Are you calling yourself a muppet character?? Gosh where the hell were your parents growing up?? They've obviously didn't give you enough attention for you to assume AGAIN that "I consider anyone who dislikes malls as hermits" do you realize how stupid you just sounded??? Straight Cringe...
"How can you expect me to feel sorry for you?" Really I should be asking YOU that question, cause obviously you have undergoing problems I don't want to know about, and you should seek a therapist ASAP, get help immediately, you seem like the type whose the quiet kid in school and anything can happen to piss you off and you end up pulling out that backpack, stay the hell away from me...
There's a mall in Malaysia called Sunway Pyramid with an Egyptian theme & aesthetic with an indoor ice skating rink, a man-made surf park, waterpark, outdoor theme park safari zoo (yes, with white lions and everything), bowling alley, archery rink & laser tag. The mall is also connected within walking distance to its own university & hospital and it also has a elevated bus route around the entire area for people to travel from one end to another.
It's in the top 10 biggest malls in the world & the place is still packed when I visited last week. It's like an alternated universe for malls in America lol
In Mexico we still love our malls.
same in dubai
Malls or Walls?
This will be a global trend. Just watch.
Irondequoit Mall in Rochester shown numerous times in the shots that are credited “they proper people”, I remember when it opened in the early 90’s , it failed quickly and was pretty much empty within 10 years
Porque la gente mexicana no se ha acostumbrado comprar en linea pues asociamos las compras en línea como fraude o miedo de que no lleguen las cosas y preferimos comprar en tiendas físicas
Thanks so much for featuring my footage in this! This was a fantastic dive into the history of malls and super enjoyable. You guys rock!
It’s really sad when you have something that’s been with you your entire life, but you’re just watching it die and you can’t do anything about it.
The third place should never be digital, humans need real physical presence and contact with other humans to maintain good mental health and to prevent the social toxicity of today
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Absolutely!
Malls, Social media, all the same. Both have exactly same effects on your mind
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I saw an idea for turning vacant malls into retirement villages
How great!
Add affordable housing to that as well... No sense in wasting good space.
The retirement of Americans and let the rest of the world support it with cheaper labor that’s good enough for me
Dara Carroll. You mean retirement prisons?
@@jneusbaum3697 well my elderly parents are in assisted living which feels like a nursing home. It would be nice for them to be somewhere they can have some freedom to do things and have some independence.
@@Dleefrlula True. Very grey area. Not easy on anyone.
Another reason for the decline of the Shopping Mall in America has been the revitalization of the Downtown areas in major cities.
USA: "shopping mall"
UK: *laughs in shopping centre*
Personally I like Sheffield shopping centre it’s so nice
"80s teenagers looked at it as a place to socialize." Over a clip of the 1995 film Mallrats.
I mean they showed Can’t Buy Me Love and Fast Times but yeah they should have a shown a movie like Valley Girl.
Typical Zoomers not knowing anything that happened before 2010.
I really hope malls can turn this around. I also hope we as a society need to stop pushing away brick and mortar retail stores.
If online dealers incorporated into box stores, it’s plausible.
American malls should stop building in very isolated areas. They should be integrated in the city, where they are more accessible
when you have social media malls need to fill an experience rather than just shopping no one goes to just hang out and shop anymore people go for an experience.
I am surprised that BI missed the one of biggest reason for the decline of malls. Rise of E-commerce.
Mind you that online shopping is as much prevalent in other parts of the world, yet still only US malls are in decline (from what I've heard)
@@lucia-di-lammermoor Because the American suburb is mostly dying, along with the malls.
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why aren't these malls used for office space?
Exactly, they could have legit repurposed these spaces that are abandoned but are still in decent shape.
keep the foodcourt, rent the stores to use as an office (amazon headquarters? the irony)
@DD217 i forgot which state is doing that but there is a state in the us doing that rn
They are being converted into Amazon distribution centers. Not joking.
How much office space is needed though? I recently moved from the city to the suburbs and there are so many office buildings, and I would imagine some of these people could work from home, but why are so many office buildings needed in a place where there is little to do.
You forgot that malls typically had very favorable tax agreements with cities that eventually expired.
i live Qatar and the pictures you have shown are nothing like the malls over here.The malls here are amazing!
Starbucks claims to be a “third place” but it so doesn’t fit me.
Next up: Mall of Starbucks
@@JJ-er1ng no offense but starbucks has just been starbucked
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@@ultimatestoryteller no wonder theres so much concrete over there
@@eddiew2325 absolutely true my friend.
E-commerce is a huge player in taking market share obviously, however, Millennials value experiences and attractions higher than previous generations and because of this the "attraction" malls in nice areas are doing very well and will carry the "mall" into the future. Attractionless malls, outdated/bland malls, and those in rougher/questionable areas will close. It is simply the free market determining what malls are viable into the future in an oversaturated and competitive environment. The idea of what the mall is is becoming more narrowly defined. Sure there may not be a widespread culture of the mall ingrained into the American psyche anymore but this ongoing free market determinism of the "mall" will ensure a higher quality mall experience in the future for any mall goers for the few times a year they may go there..
I went to some mall in Rochester MN in 2017 and like most malls, it had a few anchor stores, in this case: JCPenny, Sears, and Macy's. The sears was closed and covered the sign and entrance with particle board. The Macy's was creepily empty with only a few employees. And the JCPennys for some reason was packed with people and employees. The vending machines were empty, the claw machine had stuff from movies that came out years ago. And some stores were open but had these HUGE closing sales like there was some local video rental shop selling VHS tapes for 3 for 1$ and the guy said they were not renting at this time. He was also very eager to see me and my aunt come in, like "Hello would you like to browse our many DVD sets, or maybe check out our new Blu-Ray selection!?" Like dude just let me walk around ok?
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Should add "In U.S.A" for the title. Heck these Mall spreading like flea at SEA
i mean, jakarta has the most malls within a single city in the world
Exactly
In my state they added like 3 malls in just 4 yrs
And has plans on adding 2 extra malls
@@gamaliel7197 i was born, raised and live in Jakarta and i didn't know that-
There’s always been something magical about going to the mall around Christmas time.
I kinda see what they mean by 1 in 4 malls could close from personal experience and its sad :
The title should be: The Rise And Fall Of The Mall IN AMERICA.
Not The Rise And Fall Of Mall because Mall still booming in Asia.
I used to work at the Mall of America!!! 😳 I remember when it was sooo busy-the place to be at🤗
they should just do what my town is doing. when we closed the one mall in town, we decided to turn it into senior housing on one side and then the rest into a shopping plaza rather than a new mall.
That so great! Proud of yall
Well i dont think i would call 2000s the decade that start killing malls most mall in 2000s became megamalls and a lot malls became modernization in eastern europe the shopping malls have biggest boom in 2000s
has start modernization sorry
I agree, its more lie in the 2010s they started dying, but some areas still thrive
Mall: existing
Online shopping: I'm gonna end your whole existence.
This is why I loved seeing the mall in Stranger Things ☺️brought back good memories
Oh I know why there is a rise and fall, BECAUSE IT KEEPS GETTING EXPENSIVE DAY BY DAY!!
It's the rent. People don't understand the concept of money. If you charge cheap you will end up with more money
Yeah. No one wants to keep spending and spending more and more money in malls lol.
I just go to the mall to do shopping and thats litterally it. Nothing else.
I like the narrator’s voice it’s so soothing ☺️
Studies show that apartments (replacing vacant anchors) may save the mall.
The superior mall is the Starcourt Mall, we all know that
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im really glad that malls in my country arent dying yet theres a mall nearby me like 45-1hr walk and its still doing great!!
The mall still has one great purpose tho, and thats movie theatres, which i strongly believe will not go away because even though streaming is now a thing there is nothing like seeing a movie in theatre.
but you can have movie theatres without a mall
All the malls where I live or where my parents live don't have any.
I went to one many years ago, South of Springfield I think, and thought that is what these other malls should try. The only mall that I go to with a somewhat built in movie theater is in Gurnee, and it's mostly for the 4DX movies.
Most malls don't have theaters anymore. Theaters have wised up and separated themselves from the mall industry. At least in my state. I think there's ONE theater in a mall and it's located 4 and a half hours away from my city.
Here in the Philippines malls are the place to go to watch movies, I've never seen a stand alone movie theater here. My mom says there have been stand alone theaters before but they're now all in malls
^ yup can agree about the philippine malls
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At :41 they show footage from the Mall
Of America probably 15+ years ago. Southdale is also still very popular and open. Besides the Burnsville center all of Minnesotas twin cities malls are doing just fine. Roseville, Eagan outlets, Southdale, Woodbury, Edina Galleria, Maplewood, Ridgedale, Westend and I’m forgetting a few. None of these are ever dead go to any one on a weekend or evening and they are packed even yesterday 10/03/2020 the MOA was packed during a pandemic
It's pronounced "Eh-dye-nah" not "Ed-ee-nah"
It's spelled "Every Day I Need Attention"
- Native Minnesotan
Is that footage of Macy's at 6:02 at Serramonte in Daly City, CA? Gosh memories from 20 yeas ago in middle school are flooding back...
It sure is! I was surprised to see it as well haha
They used older footage. Now there’s a bridge that connects to the upper floor from an adjacent parking garage.
I live in a small town with a small mall, we get harsh winters and have a thriving arts and craft community in the warmer months. I wonder why the owners don't let local artists and farmers markets rent space in the mall??? They're dying because they aren't changing with consumers wants.
Here in Arizona I have learned that the only malls that still thrive A LOT are malls that are either mainly Hispanic or malls that have hundreds of trendy stores inside them like Starbucks, Apple store, Nike, and etc.
Same here in Las Vegas
Here in NC, that’s all you see at malls are a few Hispanics here and there, and just a few of them. It’s not crowded at all.
That said, many malls are on their last leg.
yea, fashion square is still going strong
Over priced rents the malls bit the hand that fed them ,the small business owner
Our mall has been demolished last year. I miss my local FYE and Spencers! I have not been in those stores in 10 years! I used to love buying cds, dvds, blu-ray and T-shirts! Bought so many Webkinz plush toys from FYE! Used to eat chinese food every time we went to the mall! 📀🎄🎅🏼😁🎽
God it’s so crazy. Growing up in the 90s and early 2000s the mall was very popular in my area and I remember begging my mom to take me to the mall to buy my school clothes lol dam how things change
I swear though after coronavirus they gonna be packed because everyone gonna wanna hang with they friends
What if I don’t have any
my mall is the opposite. its sooo crowded (even during covid!) i freaking love the mall and so does everyone soo...
I want to live in a multi-channel retail future where in-store and online retail can *coexist* with one another.
It will one day
I want an apology for mispronouncing “Edina”, Minnesota.
E-dine-ah
I paused the video at that point and searched for this comment.
I myself am trying to shop less online because I'm starting to see the effects it has around me and trying to support more local businesses where I can
....like peeing in a forest fire....
Idk about that I live in the Broward county area of Florida and the malls here are still going strong even with this pandemic so I think it depends on where you live.
I think People from that time would have never believed you if you went back and told them all these huge malls would close down some day. They would look at you like you were crazy. Nothing lasts forever. This sounds crazy and most here won't believe it but in 40 give or take years people will be making videos about Walmart stores going out of business because even Walmart won't last forever. I believe online shopping will last because different people can open a online store without spending millions of dollars to build a store. Love it or hate it online shopping is here to stay. Thank you for the video.
I worked in my local mall in the late 80’s and early 90’s and what a great place. Now, not so much. I’m surprised it survived Covid but it’s still here. I actually have not been in it in years.
The malls in the philiphines be like
Thats imposible
Lolol for real, SM went boom last year
We cannot live without it.
Malls just can't die in the Philippines, it's hot in here
Give it a few years, and they will die too. Consumerism only makes people happy for so long.
Besides, I would have thought Manila traffic would prevent people from getting to the malls in the first place.
Why can't most Filipino people can't spell Philippines right?