This was the last movie I ever saw with my grandfather because we would always watch westerns together. I remember leaving the theater embarrassed at how nonsensical the movie was and that I probably wasted his time dragging him out to the movies for that. That feeling only got worse when we lost him only a few months later... It was always just this minor regret I held onto for years until my mother recently brought it up unprompted. "I remember when your grandfather took you to that cowboy aliens movie. He said he didn't understand a second of it but was so happy to take his grandson to the movies and be with him that day"
Honestly, I gotta hand it to the guy. His own plot to make a movie is itself a movie worthy story. Film it with the same eye you would a bank heist movie, and I bet it would do better than Cowboys and Aliens did.
Spielberg also "produced" the Transformers films, and Men In Black International... He really just slaps his name on anything. He'll make some positive comments in a 5 minute interview promoting these movies then never think about them ever again.
Jesus Christ the reveal of the cowboys and aliens graphic novel being an industry plant by one guy who was never heard from again shattered my brain what an absolute legend, truly committed to gaming the system
Fun fact: The Kangaroo in Kangaroo Jack is not named Jack. The Kangaroo steals the main characters' money. 'Jack' is slang for theft in this case. The Kangaroo is nameless. This is literally the only thing I know about the movie. I'm not even sure if I actually saw it or not.
I think a video about Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter would be a perfect fit for this channel. Just like Cowboys and Aliens, it's a similar early 2010s insane movie idea.
I think about this often. Not what’s in the movie, but the fact that I could’ve sworn it was called Cowboys vs. Aliens for years. Imagine my surprise to discover a few years ago that it’s Cowboys & Aliens. Still can’t believe it.
Same here. Because versus just makes more sense. Like what do you mean cowboys AND aliens?! There is no AND here! They're fighting each other all the time! Unless you count the woman that helped them ig, but the only alien thing she did was get resurrected
I had a similar situation where I have 3 or 4 human like figures (one was an anime wifu gunner girl and another a short human bot who is kinda like East Wood and the best Wolverine) and the rest is a bunch of Transformers I own to many to the point the Human figures I own have to deal with a army in a unfair fight
@@bickyboo7789 It was made when Will Smith was beloved and most of his movies got elevated because of his star power. The movie itself is a mess, far from the worst movie but the story is like 10 different plots stuffed into one movie. That said; It is one of the few Weird West examples out there with a decent budget (it doesn't look like crap) so Weird West/Cattle Punk fans still use it as a example (they sure as hell not talking about Cowboys and Indians)
The Prophet of Truth and stinky Pete gaslighting each other into either joining the great journey or becoming collectors items would be a sight to see.
The fact that this movie was supposed to come out in the early 2000s around the time of Wild Wild West makes so much sense. This movie has early 2000s in it's DNA.
Funny thing is, it probably would have done better _if_ it came out around that time when the idea would have gone over better with audiences at the time.
I don't know, the vibe I get from this movie is very late 2000s everyone is not acting very stereotypically humorous or showing bravado as most characters were portrayed like in most michael bay movies, it feels more like a modern Western film similar to Tombstone or 13:10 to Yuma despite its ridiculous premise
@@clockwerk35I think if it had more of the late 90’s/early 00’s energy it would’ve been more memorable at least, but since it came out in 11 it had too much of trying to making the silly stuff serious
@@andrewowens4421 Not sure, if it would have done better. Men In Black came out in 97, then Wild Wild West in 99, and then Men In Black 2 in 02. The concept of a Cowboys vs Aliens plot would have felt a bit like a rip off to audiences, I believe. Maybe it wouldn't have done as bad as it did, just don't think it would have been profitable back then either.
@@clockwerk35 I'd say it has a mixture of both '90s high concept ideas like movies such as Men in Black, Waterworld, with the production values of late 2000s and early 2010s films
Scott's plan sounds like a genuine skit from a 90's adult cartoon mocking the entertainment industry. I don't even think I can be mad, he got what he wanted and ran away with the money. Plus, it reminds me of a line from Duckman: "This is an industry run on perception rather than fact, run by businessmen who only understand numbers and don't have a clue about what's good and what isn't. So the key is to be perceived as good by being associated with the biggest and best numbers. Meaning if you lack talent, you can buy credibility. In essence, creating the illusion of quality by spending the most money."
Yeah, I’m also in the “I’m too impressed by the scale and quality of the grift to be offended by it” camp. Helps that the main victims (well, besides a bunch of dead trees and other environmental costs associated with printing the comics) is a major hollywood studio and not, you know, any actual people.
The businessmen believe they operate on fact when they use numbers to determine what to green light because numbers are objective. They believe “the numbers” are the objective measure of interest. The issue is when “the numbers” are the wrong numbers or manipulated in this instance. However, these businessmen wouldn’t be businessmen for very long if they didn’t have more wins than losses. Sometimes good art is lost to “the numbers” game but these studios are, and always have been, businesses first.
I suspect that he didn't run away with too much money. He probably had a deal for a percentage of the profits, and when it bombed, he didn't see that money.
One day, someone needs to make a movie about the making of Cowboys & Aliens, it would have a reasonable shot at being more successful than Cowboys & Aliens.
My dad actually worked on this movie. He was one of the AC guys charged with making sure Harrison Ford and Daniel Craig didn't have a heat stroke between takes.
My grandmother worked at a movie theater that year, so I could watch any film they showed for free. The catch was, I spent the whole day there, and they usually played the same movies on repeat. So, in a single day, I watched Cowboys & Aliens twice and The Smurfs three times. I was 12, and I was absolutely thrilled.
I have to tip my hat to Scott: the con he pulled was fucking brilliant. He knew none of the studio decision makers cared about or read comics and if he showed them a “bestseller” label they wouldn’t question it. A bunch of other comments have already said this but I’d love to see a biopic about Scott and the movie’s production.
After the theranos chick was able to con investors by saying she was supported by companies like jpmorgan just by adding their logo to presentations, I ceased to think the people who make these choices are smart.
@smbd1234 LEGEND, but if I sang this love ballad at my daughter's wedding, like Steven Tyler sang this for his daughter Arwen in Armageddon, my daughter would throw her champaign glass right at my eye.
I love how Hollywood execs would invest hundreds of millions of dollars. Years of work. Hire top actors and directors. All to make a film for a “popular” graphic novel. But not take a week of research to see if said novel was actually popular. This was 2014. This wasn’t like the 90s internet. You could find this out fairly quick with little effort.
2011* but the point is still the same. You'd think that SOMEONE within the industry would've done a quick Google search and find out that it was all a facade, but money talks louder than reason I guess
That whole story on how Scott was able to get this movie produced is indicative of how executives basing their decision-making/gauging success around pure numbers is really dumb.
And yet it seems to happen a lot at the executive level because they're so high up that they are really out of touch, so they rely on the weirdest and most superficial things. I heard that some game devs get their bonuses scaled off of Metacritic scores. That's just insane.
Look into the lawsuits about the movie "Sahara" and you'll see something similar. Clive Cussler sued the studio because he said he was underpaid, and they counter-sued, claiming that he had inflated the sales of his books. At some point info got leaked that the studio was paying bribes to work in a foreign country. Hollywood, baby!
notice you said Cowboys "vs" Aliens, it was called that before 2016 then after the Mandela effect and time line shift it is now called Cowboys "and" Aliens .. this is one of the classic Mandela effects, i also grew up with it as Cowboys "vs" aliens .. however it was never called that in this current timeline.
In hindsight it's actually kind of hilarious when you see how serious the plotlines & scenes are, when the entire thing is based on the lore of a free giveaway pamphlet
Fun fact: oblivion the tom cruise flick, was also greenlit because it was based on a graphic novel. But thet graphic novel was never released... Only joseph kosinski(the writer director) never intended to release it. He wrote it as part of the production process and then in a strange reverse uno the studio decided to claim the film was based in a graphic novel in an attempt to get more people to see the movie. It kinda worked, because oblivion doubled its budget and at least broke even after marketing.
@@M0b1us_118Yes, which is why all three feel very similar in terms of story and themes (too an extent). I guess he also didnthe same wrting a book thing for tron which was never released. Its just part of his process of filmmaking i suppose He's also directing F1, a brad pit formula racing movie coming out. And fun fact, hus first full length film was Tron, and his first directing credit at all was the launch trailer for gears of war 3, the mad world trailer.
@@JerkyMurkyThat’s why I’m very excited to see the F1 movie (especially after how good Top Gun: Maverick was in addition to already being a fan of the sport). But I had no idea until recently that Kosinski also directed Tron: Legacy and Oblivion (until this exact moment).
I was 13-years-old. I was *obsessed* with 007, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Tron, *and* Rocket Jump. I saw Freddie Wong's 'Cowboys & Aliens' short-film guest starring director Jon Favreau. I was *the* target audience for this film, & I was *FŪCKING. HYPED.* I do not remember a majority of this film.
Honestly I think you could play the goofy 'little green men' completely straight in a western. Isolated Frontier Town that's been harassed for months by a gang of outlaws, except the outlaws are like three or six Invader Zim types who've been looting and taking advantage of a primitive and unguarded population for whatever reason. Play the goofy flying saucers, floating abduction beams, and disintegration rays for horror/awe from the perspective of a town that's about to be ruined. A small number of identifiable villains lets you keep them recognizable without needing them to really speak beyond chittering bleepbloops, and answers the 'overpowered' problem (BlipBlip's disintegrator needs to recharge after X shots or whatever, there's three of them and a few dozen of you.)
@@ND-nr6mx My thought was mostly how you could keep the '2010's gritty western with aliens' the movie was going for while making the Aliens not be 'Generic Monster Swarm.' A western without an interesting villain/Bad Guy is missing like a third of the formula. I think Destroy All Humans is a bit too comedic a tone, but in the sense that Destroy All Humans plays the idea of 'The Greys' for comedy/satire, you could play it for horror/action. Just make the Asshole Bandit Gang Leaders aliens who also abduct and organ harvest people.
i LOVE your reviews, because it's never JUST about the movie but also the behind the scenes buffoonery that hollywood gets up to and how the movie even came into conception. and oh boy are those stories ever consistent in making me go "and that just... happened????". prime example? this video. right here.
*Shoutout to the alien’s motivation being the desire for gold.* You can find gold and mine it from LITERALLY ANY STAR SYSTEM IN THE UNIVERSE. Why did you choose the one planet with life on it?
That is crazy. Gold is pretty abundant in other places in the universe. Even if you were sure that the inhabitants of a planets were docile it would still be smarter to mine gold on a planet that had _no_ intelligent life just to save you the hassle.
I never saw Cowboys and Aliens as a kid, but I did play the Rango video game on the Nintendo DS, which is a sequel to Rango and involves Rango stopping an alien invasion. So it was basically the same thing.
The issue with the alien technology making it a one sided fight could've been dealt with so easily too, just make it a War of the Worlds situation; The aliens see humanity from light years away, see us fighting with rocks and sticks, maybe a knife if we're fancy, and make it so a research team comes to earth thinking "we have lasers, defenses against lasers, we only need a handful of fighters just in case" and when they come here, their laser defenses are useless against guns, they weren't planning on fighting to begin with so they're unprepared, they're now even. It even opens up possibility for a sequel where this research team calls for help after failing, but now the cowboys have alien tech, like in independence day. It had so much potential...
Ironically, a movie about Scott Mitchell Rosenberg managing to game both the graphic novel industry and the hollywood movie industry would be an absolute banger.
There was a 98 movie about Jacqueline Susann that did that to explain how Valley of the Dolls became a bestseller. Except she just found out which bookstores the NY times sampled, and bought her own books from there. And it was just one segment.
"The comic has nothing to do with the movie. They just share a name." I'm shocked. Absolutely bamboozled. As someone who recently read the entire run of the Aircel "Men in Black" comics, this has surely never happened before.
5:45 I love how Cody’s videos all have what is essentially dad lore (which is usually related to transformers or a disaster movie) intermixed with little warning lmao.
Bro said ‘funny Iron Man director’ and I knew exactly the energy we were on. This movie lives in that Mandela Effect corner of my brain next to Green Lantern and John Carter. I was THERE. Respect
Honestly, Green Lantern was WAY better than this. C&A was so boring that I didn't even watch to the end. It doesn't even have the decency to be bad in a funny way.
@@The-jy3yqJohn points the cannon at the Zodangan ship, then one soldier interjects: “Hey, jackass! You’re going to murder a bunch of people DURING A WHITE FLAG???” John: “But you’re the bad guys. You deserve it no matter what.” Soldier: “HELIUM shot at us first, if you were paying attention! And that little perfidious you just saved is the entire reason we’re out here!” John: “But you started the war, right?” Soldier: “NOT EVEN WE KNOW ANYMORE, WE’VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR SO LONG!!!!” John: “Oh. I just assumed all Zodangans were evil because I was told so by a guy I just met. And you’re all wearing red. Sorry about the guy I punched to his death. Just trying to look cool.” Soldier: “GODDESS, this era of filmmaking sucks. Get some damn nuance in this 70 IQ script!”
I'm not entirely clear on what you mean by the Mandela Effect corner of your brain, but I unironically and wholeheartedly love all three of those movies.
Honestly, this is one of your best vids yet! I've always adored your monotone sass as you summarize and critique 2000s-early 2010s action schlocks, but the puns and jokes in this one just really tickle me. Please continue to make great vids!
To be fair, the monsters from A Quiet Place weren't a victim of the Cloverfield monster look, so much as they were direct rip-offs of the Future Predators from Primeval.
@@kamikazelemming1552 Funny, I once mentioned it to a British acquaintance of mine, and he went off on a small rant about how he doesn't understand how "Yanks" can enjoy it. I personally liked it. It was like a mashup of Walking with Dinosaurs and Stargate.
You’ve described it perfectly: wasted potential. Watching this made me realize that cowboys x aliens is something that could be really cool, but it isn’t utilized correctly here.
Man I was watching this recently and my brother came in the room "What you watching?" "Cowboys and Aliens" "Whats it about?" "Well you're not going to believe this, but there's cowboys, and they meet aliens"
You didn't drip enough sarcasm in it, not a true sibling story. Mine would have been like "Jeez I fuckin wonder genius, what would the movie COWBOYS AND ALIENS have in it? Think about it for a minute, no not like that I can hear the gears grinding in your brain, it's not as complex as you made it sound"
my grandmother just passed away like 45 minutes ago and this is the first thing i watch after that. thank you cody for making me smile during this time, youre a real one
The rumors/ behind the scenes segment reminded me of something: What Scott Rosenburg managed to do with "Cowboys and Aliens" in 2011 reminds me of what Lanie Serum tried to do with "Handbook for Mortals" in 2017, astroturfing the success of a novel to get a movie deal. The biggest difference is that Scott succeeded, and Lanie got caught.
Jenny Trout covered/mocked that book on her blog. The main thing I remember is that the protagonist used her magic to cause an "accident" at the mall (I think at an Orange Julius stall?) to hurt another woman, and we were supposed to think that woman deserved it even though she really didn't. Oh, also, the protagonist/narrator is entirely unconscious for a few chapters at the book's climax, but she handles it by saying something like "I asked them about it later, and here's what they told me happened" and just continuing from there.
@@jlcdavenport6268 Yeah, but that was a time skip in a book with third-person narration. Imagine if Bilbo himself described the entire sequence of the battle from start to finish, including multiple descriptions of other characters worrying about "me" (Bilbo) while fighting orcs or whatever, and ended with "And then I regained consciousness, having no idea of what had happened during the battle." Also, I misremembered: she didn't just _ask_ them what had happened while she was out cold. She actually pulled the memories out of their heads with her magick.
I'm kinda fond of this one, but definitely agree with your criticisms. My first thoughts after watching it back in the day were "well, that was fun" and "there are so many weird old stories from that period they could've borrowed from, and made a better story". Plus, i also really wish they'd gone for more "traditional" alien designs, because the ones they went with really are just monsters from space.
Remember that "The Brothers Grimm" movie from 2005? That's a really good example of that era of movies where everything had to be super serious and gritty. The premise of the movie is literally "what if we took Grimm fairy tales and made them serious and gritty" and it's a fever dream of a movie to go back to now.
See also... Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters (2013), Snow White and the Huntsman (2012), Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012) and probably more. There were a lot of these!
Director *Hideo Kojima* Producer *Hideo Kojima* QA *Hideo Kojima* Written By *Hideo Kojima* Level Design *Hideo Kojima* Lead Planner *Hideo Kojima* Voice of God *Hideo Kojima*
Fun fact: when I was younger, I would put this movie on at my dad's house to fall asleep to, because I thought the movie was boring. Glad to know is that years later, that sentiment still holds up now!
This was one of the last few movies I saw with my mom before she died of cancer. I remember in the car ride after she said she really liked the action and fight scenes. Then later that night I heard her telling my dad it was complete cliche garbage and she rolled her eyes the whole time😂. Still happy she saw it with me and at least pretended to like it when I was little 😂
can't believe we were denied a Tex movie, that comic is a whole phenomenon in my family for some reason, so I'd love to see a movie about it, even if it would end up being just ok at best
Tex isn't a generic western. Tex is comic character, brain child of two Italian artists. Impossible popular in Italy. It started its run in 1948 and it is still published to this day.
Italian comics are so underrated. They are great works out there yet no one in US does not seem to care. Most of the popular Eurocomics are Belgium ones.
Totally agree with you, _but_ for the average Hollywood executive, it is and will always be a "generic western". The fact it's not even an American western just makes it worse.
I remember being so hyped for this movie but being so disappointed by it. Best memory of this movie was the scene where the mystic lady was touching the scar on the side of our hero’s torso, when I turned to my sister and her boyfriend at the time and said “Congratulations, you are with child.” That got a good chuckle and chortle out of them.
Does anyone else remember the weird marketing for this film where Harrison Ford was on Jimmy Kimmel and yelled at chewie? The quote "Daniel Craig is my wookie bitch now!" Lives rent free in my head
No then again Jimmy Kimmel is a communist, and the last time I checked, very very very homosexual. So I doubt anyone watched or even heard that that happened.
@@DeathLord1212000I just went and watched this clip… yeah… this just rented a room in my head… and paid for 6 years in advance, also “forget that Star Wars crap…” this of course being said before the revival of that franchise via the train wreck known as The Sequel Trilogy. If he only knew then what we know now 😂
As a kid, I thought this movie was somehow related to Monsters vs. Aliens and I think at some point thought this was part of some ‘Vs Aliens’ franchise.
Infatti ero davvero confuso quando l'ha citato così, random. Potevamo avere un adattamento di Tex fatto da Hollywood?? Probabilmente avrebbe fatto cagare, visto che non riusciamo ad adattarle bene neanche noi le nostre proprietà creative hahahahahahha.
Ho anche commentato che esistono diverse storie di Tex con alieni, di cui una ha un alieno intelligente ed umanoide. Anche se forse la storia con i fiori succhiasangue potrebbe essere la migliore.
I'd almost call this movie a guilty pleasure. It's James Bond and Han Solo in the Wild West battling aliens - a great premise in terms of "smashing your action figures together" storytelling logic.
I felt that way about the Boba Fett show at first. Like Boba Fett played by Temuera Morrison with Mulan tagging along and becoming criminal kingpins? It should have been amazing.
I remember around the time this came out there was another graphic novel titled Dinosaurs vs. Aliens (made by Barry Sonnenfeld from Men in Black) that allegedly also had a movie deal. I was actually waaaaay more excited for that. The cool twist it had was that it showed the dinosaurs actually having a bit of intelligence and a primitive culture, with tribal bone masks, stone tools and the ability to coordinate, so they were not entirely defenceless. It’s kind of the most extreme underdog story you could think of, pitting the most advanced lifeform you can think of against the most primitive. The aliens themselves were interestingly not portrayed as villains, but refugees from a ruined homeworld, not realizing that the creatures they are hurting with their terraforming efforts are more than just simple animals.
Only a couple of months ago, this movie ran on TV and my parents wanted to watch it with me. I still remember the titlescreen with writer "Alex Kurtzman" and, because of you, PointlessHub, I immediately facepalmed, knowing the movie would be neither good nor terrible, just there. And that's exactly what the movie ended up being. However, I also remember when Noah Ringer appeared and I shouted out loud: "AVATAR!" Also because of you PointlessHub. Thanks for the memories and unforgettable, alongside terrible movies.
From what I remember the reason the aliens in Cowboys and Aliens came to earth was to harvest gold. …Gold. Which is like one of the most common metals in space. Literal meteors of the stuff and yet they came to earth to dig through gold mines.
Probably got the idea from the dumb alien conquerors from Battlefield Earth. Who are so advanced they conquered Earth within minutes, yet require manual slave labor to get it and never bothered to put security measures from a human uprising that ended up destroying their flammable home planet.
I would LOVE to mine an astroid of gold! I heard that astronomers actually know of one that is maybe a few miles long that has more gold than has been mined on earth. Mind boggling!!
@@colormedubious4747 I did. I remember it being meh, and never felt like re-reading it. I was very surprised when I found out they were making it into a movie. And then surprised again when the movie turned out to be nothing like the graphic novel.
Fun fact, this is Steve Oedekirk's last screenwriting credit for a movie. Not only that but after jumping ship, he also tried directing an adaptation of the Don Knotts movie "The Incredible Mr Limpet" with Jim Carrey. Look up the footage for it because it's so freaky!
Hi Cody, this might be a little corny, but this video came out on my last day of high school. I discovered your channel when I was a small freshman with your Battle LA video. Since then i quickly loved the rest of your channel since it also had videos on about every franchise I love. Also because I realized it was basically an alternatehistoryhub spin-off. Thanks for making content that I felt was near and dear to my heart throughout high school. Keep up the good work, and I’ll keep watching your videos as time moves on.
It's honestly pretty cool seeing Cody's drawing skills improve over time. In his early videos he just sketched a one-colored room for the background but since his day after tomorrow video he themes them after the movies he's covering His most recent Transformers video even uses 4 unique backgrounds
Is this a silly movie? Yes. Was it awesome to watch? Absolutely. These types of movies are my guilty pleasure. I love over the top action films with ridiculous plots and themes, couple that with a decent budget and I'm hooked. I'm not going in expected a 10/10 Oscar worthy level of cinema, I want a movie that I can just enjoy the utter chaos and have fun. Most people refer to this as "turning your brain off movies" but honestly I don't see it like that. I criticize what's in front of me while laughing my ass off.
I always felt this movie was the blueprint for Jon Favreau to one day make The Mandalorian. Both pure westerns with sci-fi injected into them, except with Mando he said "Okay but this time I'll make it fun... Until Season 3."
11:15 I'm making cheesesticks and I am in awe of this subtle 3D perspective drawing here. The round smudge points fiercely off into the distance, though his face is dopey and lax. In most of the artwork we see in these videos, the characters are 2D perspective, mayhaps with a 3D perspective background. The round smudge is an awl to the marble of tradition, and I hope to see more masterful da-Vanci-esque perspective work from Mr. Hubbard.
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love the video man, thanks
I feel like you'd do a good job at describing that movie they made based on battleship for a video
This was the last movie I ever saw with my grandfather because we would always watch westerns together. I remember leaving the theater embarrassed at how nonsensical the movie was and that I probably wasted his time dragging him out to the movies for that. That feeling only got worse when we lost him only a few months later... It was always just this minor regret I held onto for years until my mother recently brought it up unprompted. "I remember when your grandfather took you to that cowboy aliens movie. He said he didn't understand a second of it but was so happy to take his grandson to the movies and be with him that day"
The movie wasn't important, its just the time you get to spend with loved ones.
He only wanted you, not the movie. He couldn't have been happier
o this has a little kick to it 😭
This better be legit because im tearing up
This is such a sweet story
You ever notice that Alternate History Hub and Pointless Hub are never seen in the same room?
*CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATION*
its like clark kent and superman....wtf
Never heard of em
who tf is alternate history hub
Clearly they must really hate each other
The history of how Scott managed to make a "top selling" graphic novel Is genuinely more intriguing than the movie he was so desperate to publish.
I unironically want to read it now, the plot still sounds better than the movie
Honestly, I gotta hand it to the guy. His own plot to make a movie is itself a movie worthy story. Film it with the same eye you would a bank heist movie, and I bet it would do better than Cowboys and Aliens did.
I'll be honest, I forgot he was walking about the development of a movie and not how this dude rigged the system
If that’s not commitment in wanting to your idea being known to the world, I don’t know what is.
The real explanation is in Scott’s last name ;) ;) ;)
“With enough money you too can have Steven Spielberg pretend to like your creation” was the coldest mic drop I’ve ever heard!
Most isreaelite comment ever
Spielberg also "produced" the Transformers films, and Men In Black International... He really just slaps his name on anything. He'll make some positive comments in a 5 minute interview promoting these movies then never think about them ever again.
Worked for the developers of the E.T. video game on the Atari 2600. Somehow.
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Jesus Christ the reveal of the cowboys and aliens graphic novel being an industry plant by one guy who was never heard from again shattered my brain what an absolute legend, truly committed to gaming the system
Hollywood is PERFECTLY BALANCED with ZERO EXPLOITS
The reveal also explains why he never based the movie on the book. He never cared for the book story, but his movie’s story.
It isn't all the -bergs, but its always a -berg
@@Mesos92 what did you mean by this?🤨
@@cybersaiyan9596My guess is either antisemitism or unchecked schizophrenia
Fun fact: The Kangaroo in Kangaroo Jack is not named Jack.
The Kangaroo steals the main characters' money. 'Jack' is slang for theft in this case. The Kangaroo is nameless.
This is literally the only thing I know about the movie. I'm not even sure if I actually saw it or not.
That’s… that’s not fun at all :(
There's an after credits scene of the Kangaroo breaking the fourth wall about how the film wasn't really about him despite the name of the title.
@@kanseiyamazaru435 it's the kangaroo jack expert, he's come to grace us with his presence
@gogeode the only expert I'll acknowledge
I just knew that the Kangaroo wasn't that funny like in the trailers
I think a video about Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter would be a perfect fit for this channel. Just like Cowboys and Aliens, it's a similar early 2010s insane movie idea.
This is the comment of the month. We NEED that review!
Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters must be cut from the same cloth of "Crazy early 2010s Hollywood genre mash-ups", no?
Show some respect! That movie is a fever dream
That ones actually kinda good though. 😂
John Carter too
I think about this often. Not what’s in the movie, but the fact that I could’ve sworn it was called Cowboys vs. Aliens for years. Imagine my surprise to discover a few years ago that it’s Cowboys & Aliens. Still can’t believe it.
No it was Cowboys Vs Predator. No wait Cowboys Meet Xenomorphs. Wow, I just realized those two would make better movies. 🤣
Same here. Because versus just makes more sense. Like what do you mean cowboys AND aliens?! There is no AND here! They're fighting each other all the time!
Unless you count the woman that helped them ig, but the only alien thing she did was get resurrected
That was some Mandela Effect right there.
It's probably because exists one called "American Cowboys vs Aliens"
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"You won't remember the plot the second this video ends" I'd already forgotten it but thanks for having such faith in me.
I dont think he even covered the plot in the video lol
@@firstnamesurname6130he does but it's just not that memorable
Something about cowboys and aliens
Something about Mr krabs I think
@@ariannasv22but everything is about mr krabs...
Cowboys and Aliens is the same vibe as if you only had 3 cowboy toys and 10 alien toys as a kid. You had to make it work
Wouldn’t it be the opposite? Seems like there’s way more cowboys than aliens in this movie.
@@shidditiddisit was just a joke bro 🥀
I had a similar situation where I have 3 or 4 human like figures (one was an anime wifu gunner girl and another a short human bot who is kinda like East Wood and the best Wolverine) and the rest is a bunch of Transformers I own to many to the point the Human figures I own have to deal with a army in a unfair fight
That was my childhood. A few GI Joe's backed up by mean green umpah loompahs (green army men). 😂
Like the Music Video for Country Song by Seether
Man, Wild Wild West itself deserves its own video.
Who doesn't love Will Smith's cover of Kool Moe Dee's Wild Wild West single?
Honestly a very good movie ngl. Had me hooked till the end.
@@Xer405Honestly, I actually liked it.
The original tv series was probably better ( haven’t seen it yet) but it was a fun movie.
Wtf I thought that movie was beloved.
@@bickyboo7789 It was made when Will Smith was beloved and most of his movies got elevated because of his star power. The movie itself is a mess, far from the worst movie but the story is like 10 different plots stuffed into one movie. That said; It is one of the few Weird West examples out there with a decent budget (it doesn't look like crap) so Weird West/Cattle Punk fans still use it as a example (they sure as hell not talking about Cowboys and Indians)
"The Covenant vs Woody's Round Up" is absolutely hilarious and something I would watch lol
The Prophet of Truth and stinky Pete gaslighting each other into either joining the great journey or becoming collectors items would be a sight to see.
The fact that this movie was supposed to come out in the early 2000s around the time of Wild Wild West makes so much sense. This movie has early 2000s in it's DNA.
Funny thing is, it probably would have done better _if_ it came out around that time when the idea would have gone over better with audiences at the time.
I don't know, the vibe I get from this movie is very late 2000s everyone is not acting very stereotypically humorous or showing bravado as most characters were portrayed like in most michael bay movies, it feels more like a modern Western film similar to Tombstone or 13:10 to Yuma despite its ridiculous premise
@@clockwerk35I think if it had more of the late 90’s/early 00’s energy it would’ve been more memorable at least, but since it came out in 11 it had too much of trying to making the silly stuff serious
@@andrewowens4421 Not sure, if it would have done better. Men In Black came out in 97, then Wild Wild West in 99, and then Men In Black 2 in 02. The concept of a Cowboys vs Aliens plot would have felt a bit like a rip off to audiences, I believe. Maybe it wouldn't have done as bad as it did, just don't think it would have been profitable back then either.
@@clockwerk35 I'd say it has a mixture of both '90s high concept ideas like movies such as Men in Black, Waterworld, with the production values of late 2000s and early 2010s films
Scott's plan sounds like a genuine skit from a 90's adult cartoon mocking the entertainment industry.
I don't even think I can be mad, he got what he wanted and ran away with the money. Plus, it reminds me of a line from Duckman:
"This is an industry run on perception rather than fact, run by businessmen who only understand numbers and don't have a clue about what's good and what isn't. So the key is to be perceived as good by being associated with the biggest and best numbers. Meaning if you lack talent, you can buy credibility. In essence, creating the illusion of quality by spending the most money."
Yeah, I’m also in the “I’m too impressed by the scale and quality of the grift to be offended by it” camp. Helps that the main victims (well, besides a bunch of dead trees and other environmental costs associated with printing the comics) is a major hollywood studio and not, you know, any actual people.
The businessmen believe they operate on fact when they use numbers to determine what to green light because numbers are objective. They believe “the numbers” are the objective measure of interest.
The issue is when “the numbers” are the wrong numbers or manipulated in this instance. However, these businessmen wouldn’t be businessmen for very long if they didn’t have more wins than losses.
Sometimes good art is lost to “the numbers” game but these studios are, and always have been, businesses first.
I suspect that he didn't run away with too much money. He probably had a deal for a percentage of the profits, and when it bombed, he didn't see that money.
Something George costanza would do
One day, someone needs to make a movie about the making of Cowboys & Aliens, it would have a reasonable shot at being more successful than Cowboys & Aliens.
My dad actually worked on this movie. He was one of the AC guys charged with making sure Harrison Ford and Daniel Craig didn't have a heat stroke between takes.
How does your father feel after meeting Han Solo and James Bond?
god bless your dad lol
Are you sure?
@@archiboldpentigrass6600 he's pretty sure
@@archiboldpentigrass6600 is it really so hard to believe that someone's relative did something
My grandmother worked at a movie theater that year, so I could watch any film they showed for free. The catch was, I spent the whole day there, and they usually played the same movies on repeat.
So, in a single day, I watched Cowboys & Aliens twice and The Smurfs three times.
I was 12, and I was absolutely thrilled.
I have to tip my hat to Scott: the con he pulled was fucking brilliant. He knew none of the studio decision makers cared about or read comics and if he showed them a “bestseller” label they wouldn’t question it. A bunch of other comments have already said this but I’d love to see a biopic about Scott and the movie’s production.
It does feel like a missed opportunity that there's never been a movie about the making of this movie.
After the theranos chick was able to con investors by saying she was supported by companies like jpmorgan just by adding their logo to presentations, I ceased to think the people who make these choices are smart.
Looking forward to this, but nothing will ever beat Don't Want to Miss a Thing being played at your wedding.
Nice
Nurm
@@Hellokitty-o5r when he told that bit in the two asteroid movies, I damn near cried with laughter.
That song is a Masterpiece doe
@smbd1234 LEGEND, but if I sang this love ballad at my daughter's wedding, like Steven Tyler sang this for his daughter Arwen in Armageddon, my daughter would throw her champaign glass right at my eye.
I love how Hollywood execs would invest hundreds of millions of dollars. Years of work. Hire top actors and directors. All to make a film for a “popular” graphic novel. But not take a week of research to see if said novel was actually popular.
This was 2014. This wasn’t like the 90s internet. You could find this out fairly quick with little effort.
2011* but the point is still the same. You'd think that SOMEONE within the industry would've done a quick Google search and find out that it was all a facade, but money talks louder than reason I guess
If this was all accurate then this might be the most textbook example of the execs being out of touch.
Genuine money-tier brain rot
And in the end the Scott always wins.
Those old dudes did not know how to use the internet yet back then
Their hearing stopped when they heard "best selling."
25:43 "Make them competent shots" then showing kats death is absolutely devious work. Great video as always
That whole story on how Scott was able to get this movie produced is indicative of how executives basing their decision-making/gauging success around pure numbers is really dumb.
This is how we got a Spawn movie before a Spider-Man or X-Men movie.
Easily reminded of Nostalgia Critic's Executive guy saying "Well the Chart says-" and how sadly accurate that character is.
Honestly it’s a problem with neoliberalism in general. Line go up on graph with zero context of the actual circumstances of that graph.
And yet it seems to happen a lot at the executive level because they're so high up that they are really out of touch, so they rely on the weirdest and most superficial things.
I heard that some game devs get their bonuses scaled off of Metacritic scores. That's just insane.
Look into the lawsuits about the movie "Sahara" and you'll see something similar. Clive Cussler sued the studio because he said he was underpaid, and they counter-sued, claiming that he had inflated the sales of his books. At some point info got leaked that the studio was paying bribes to work in a foreign country. Hollywood, baby!
Cowboys vs Aliens, Monster Hunter, Percy Jackson, Harrison Ford, Red Dead Redemption, Halo, Steel ball Run, all in one video. This is peak RUclips
Wait where was the monster hunter
notice you said Cowboys "vs" Aliens, it was called that before 2016 then after the Mandela effect and time line shift it is now called Cowboys "and" Aliens .. this is one of the classic Mandela effects, i also grew up with it as Cowboys "vs" aliens .. however it was never called that in this current timeline.
New Vegas too
& Knuckles
In hindsight it's actually kind of hilarious when you see how serious the plotlines & scenes are, when the entire thing is based on the lore of a free giveaway pamphlet
Fun fact: oblivion the tom cruise flick, was also greenlit because it was based on a graphic novel. But thet graphic novel was never released... Only joseph kosinski(the writer director) never intended to release it. He wrote it as part of the production process and then in a strange reverse uno the studio decided to claim the film was based in a graphic novel in an attempt to get more people to see the movie. It kinda worked, because oblivion doubled its budget and at least broke even after marketing.
Is that the same Joseph Kosinski who directed Tron: Legacy, Top Gun: Maverick, and the F1 movie?
I often mistake Oblivion for Elysium
@@M0b1us_118Yes, which is why all three feel very similar in terms of story and themes (too an extent). I guess he also didnthe same wrting a book thing for tron which was never released. Its just part of his process of filmmaking i suppose
He's also directing F1, a brad pit formula racing movie coming out.
And fun fact, hus first full length film was Tron, and his first directing credit at all was the launch trailer for gears of war 3, the mad world trailer.
@@JerkyMurkyThat’s why I’m very excited to see the F1 movie (especially after how good Top Gun: Maverick was in addition to already being a fan of the sport). But I had no idea until recently that Kosinski also directed Tron: Legacy and Oblivion (until this exact moment).
i love how clancy brown is just universally known as Mr Krabs
It sure was sad when the Bay Harbour Butcher, Dexter Morgan, killed Mr. Krabs.
I know him as Lex Luthor from the DCAU
I always call Lt Hank that whenever I replay Detroit Become Human like I just can't not call him that lmao
@@Siren_DarkOcean_Official
Same, but I call him Lt Hank the same way Forrest Gump says Lt Dan
It’s both Mr. Krab and Lex Luther for me
I was 13-years-old. I was *obsessed* with 007, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Tron, *and* Rocket Jump. I saw Freddie Wong's 'Cowboys & Aliens' short-film guest starring director Jon Favreau. I was *the* target audience for this film, & I was *FŪCKING. HYPED.*
I do not remember a majority of this film.
Hope he talk about Tron Legacy next
Honestly I think you could play the goofy 'little green men' completely straight in a western. Isolated Frontier Town that's been harassed for months by a gang of outlaws, except the outlaws are like three or six Invader Zim types who've been looting and taking advantage of a primitive and unguarded population for whatever reason.
Play the goofy flying saucers, floating abduction beams, and disintegration rays for horror/awe from the perspective of a town that's about to be ruined. A small number of identifiable villains lets you keep them recognizable without needing them to really speak beyond chittering bleepbloops, and answers the 'overpowered' problem (BlipBlip's disintegrator needs to recharge after X shots or whatever, there's three of them and a few dozen of you.)
So kinda like Destroy All Humans! as a movie
@@ND-nr6mx My thought was mostly how you could keep the '2010's gritty western with aliens' the movie was going for while making the Aliens not be 'Generic Monster Swarm.' A western without an interesting villain/Bad Guy is missing like a third of the formula.
I think Destroy All Humans is a bit too comedic a tone, but in the sense that Destroy All Humans plays the idea of 'The Greys' for comedy/satire, you could play it for horror/action. Just make the Asshole Bandit Gang Leaders aliens who also abduct and organ harvest people.
I'd watch that, kinda like NOPE or Eight Legged Freaks, Gremlins type movie but more horror and thriller less goofy and funny
I imagine an alien ship crashes and the aliens are trying to survive on earth by raiding a nearby town
That us basically what an episode of Doctor Who did, and it worked brilliantly
i LOVE your reviews, because it's never JUST about the movie but also the behind the scenes buffoonery that hollywood gets up to and how the movie even came into conception.
and oh boy are those stories ever consistent in making me go "and that just... happened????". prime example? this video. right here.
Scott's *ALLEDGED* story sounds like great movie material. Some conman with disposable money should make a best selling comic about it.
*Shoutout to the alien’s motivation being the desire for gold.*
You can find gold and mine it from LITERALLY ANY STAR SYSTEM IN THE UNIVERSE. Why did you choose the one planet with life on it?
Not just life but very violent and armed life
That is crazy. Gold is pretty abundant in other places in the universe. Even if you were sure that the inhabitants of a planets were docile it would still be smarter to mine gold on a planet that had _no_ intelligent life just to save you the hassle.
Wasn’t that the same motivation for the aliens from Battlefield Earth?
‘Cause those other star systems don’t come with what was presumably supposed to be a free buffet table.
@@eevv2229 That was water, I think? If so, yet dumber!
I never saw Cowboys and Aliens as a kid, but I did play the Rango video game on the Nintendo DS, which is a sequel to Rango and involves Rango stopping an alien invasion. So it was basically the same thing.
Sounds like a better “Cowboys & Aliens 🤠👽” movie than the actual “ Cowboys & Aliens 🤠👽” movie.
Except rango did it better off course
I remember being extremely hyped to see Rango the movie. And then even more so to get my hands on the Rango video game for the Wii.
I looked it up expecting it to not be real. I need to play this PEAK masterpiece.
The issue with the alien technology making it a one sided fight could've been dealt with so easily too, just make it a War of the Worlds situation;
The aliens see humanity from light years away, see us fighting with rocks and sticks, maybe a knife if we're fancy, and make it so a research team comes to earth thinking "we have lasers, defenses against lasers, we only need a handful of fighters just in case" and when they come here, their laser defenses are useless against guns, they weren't planning on fighting to begin with so they're unprepared, they're now even. It even opens up possibility for a sequel where this research team calls for help after failing, but now the cowboys have alien tech, like in independence day. It had so much potential...
For some important context, "Tex" is Italy's best selling comic. Like, impossibly popular, been running since 1948 and still going strong.
It is still selling ?😮, i remember my dad had tons of Tex comic books sitting around
Tex is also very popular in Brazil.
Amerykanie zawsze pogardzali komiksem europejskim, który miażdży ich przemysł na dzień dobry. I to od lat 60-tych, jak nie wcześniej
Just want to say, this channel always provides me my favorite reminders about movies I saw once in middle school and then promptly forgot.
Ironically, a movie about Scott Mitchell Rosenberg managing to game both the graphic novel industry and the hollywood movie industry would be an absolute banger.
Basically Disaster Artist meets Ocean's 11
There was a 98 movie about Jacqueline Susann that did that to explain how Valley of the Dolls became a bestseller. Except she just found out which bookstores the NY times sampled, and bought her own books from there.
And it was just one segment.
"The comic has nothing to do with the movie. They just share a name."
I'm shocked. Absolutely bamboozled. As someone who recently read the entire run of the Aircel "Men in Black" comics, this has surely never happened before.
5:45 I love how Cody’s videos all have what is essentially dad lore (which is usually related to transformers or a disaster movie) intermixed with little warning lmao.
Bonus points if the crackhead was Michael Bay or somehow related to him
Bro said ‘funny Iron Man director’ and I knew exactly the energy we were on. This movie lives in that Mandela Effect corner of my brain next to Green Lantern and John Carter. I was THERE. Respect
John "CGI" Carter
ok oim oktei with Barsum
so f*cking stupid
But goddamn Tars Tarsus is awesome
Honestly, Green Lantern was WAY better than this. C&A was so boring that I didn't even watch to the end. It doesn't even have the decency to be bad in a funny way.
@@The-jy3yqJohn points the cannon at the Zodangan ship, then one soldier interjects: “Hey, jackass! You’re going to murder a bunch of people DURING A WHITE FLAG???”
John: “But you’re the bad guys. You deserve it no matter what.”
Soldier: “HELIUM shot at us first, if you were paying attention! And that little perfidious you just saved is the entire reason we’re out here!”
John: “But you started the war, right?”
Soldier: “NOT EVEN WE KNOW ANYMORE, WE’VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR SO LONG!!!!”
John: “Oh. I just assumed all Zodangans were evil because I was told so by a guy I just met. And you’re all wearing red. Sorry about the guy I punched to his death. Just trying to look cool.”
Soldier: “GODDESS, this era of filmmaking sucks. Get some damn nuance in this 70 IQ script!”
I'm not entirely clear on what you mean by the Mandela Effect corner of your brain, but I unironically and wholeheartedly love all three of those movies.
6:28 Chris Browning’s character pushing Percy’s gun away when he accidentally points it at him is such a great understated comedy beat.
Knowing his f*cking gun safety - that's a brilliant idea
Honestly, this is one of your best vids yet! I've always adored your monotone sass as you summarize and critique 2000s-early 2010s action schlocks, but the puns and jokes in this one just really tickle me. Please continue to make great vids!
1:25 "Mr. Ford, please stay on script. You're supposed to say: 'keep that in mind'"
Kek
For Christmas of 2011, I only got three gifts from my mother. Two of them were Cowboys and Aliens and Green Lantern on DVD.
Big oofs
Well damn... at least it's the thought that counts right?
What was the third?
@@kalechips4564two copies of cowboys and aliens
Hopefully the third gift was the receipts so she could return them.
To be fair, the monsters from A Quiet Place weren't a victim of the Cloverfield monster look, so much as they were direct rip-offs of the Future Predators from Primeval.
As soon as i saw A Quiet Place i immediatly thought that.
"They had us in the first half, not gonna lie."
True, the future predator is iconic
Always happy to see the Future Predators get a mention. Primeval was such a masterpiece of a show.
@@kamikazelemming1552 Funny, I once mentioned it to a British acquaintance of mine, and he went off on a small rant about how he doesn't understand how "Yanks" can enjoy it.
I personally liked it. It was like a mashup of Walking with Dinosaurs and Stargate.
You’ve described it perfectly: wasted potential. Watching this made me realize that cowboys x aliens is something that could be really cool, but it isn’t utilized correctly here.
Man I was watching this recently and my brother came in the room
"What you watching?"
"Cowboys and Aliens"
"Whats it about?"
"Well you're not going to believe this, but there's cowboys, and they meet aliens"
You didn't drip enough sarcasm in it, not a true sibling story.
Mine would have been like "Jeez I fuckin wonder genius, what would the movie COWBOYS AND ALIENS have in it? Think about it for a minute, no not like that I can hear the gears grinding in your brain, it's not as complex as you made it sound"
Me being almost twenty years older sort of stops that. Turns more into an adult being unnecessary to a child despite being siblings@Aryasvitkona
@@AscendpurityI'm 26 and I snark my own mother like that when she asks me stupid questions, just built different I guess
😂
@@Aryasvitkona this is what an eight year old would think is a sick burn
my grandmother just passed away like 45 minutes ago and this is the first thing i watch after that. thank you cody for making me smile during this time, youre a real one
Condolences to you and your family. It's not much but I hope this comment sooth your heart even if a little bit.
Condolences. I hope you have happy memories to draw comfort from during the tough times.
This probably won’t mean much to you but I’m sorry to hear that, hope you’re doing ok
Im sorry for your loss, may she rest in peace 🙏 ✌️
Uh... Sorry for your loss
The rumors/ behind the scenes segment reminded me of something:
What Scott Rosenburg managed to do with "Cowboys and Aliens" in 2011 reminds me of what Lanie Serum tried to do with "Handbook for Mortals" in 2017, astroturfing the success of a novel to get a movie deal. The biggest difference is that Scott succeeded, and Lanie got caught.
Jenny Trout covered/mocked that book on her blog. The main thing I remember is that the protagonist used her magic to cause an "accident" at the mall (I think at an Orange Julius stall?) to hurt another woman, and we were supposed to think that woman deserved it even though she really didn't.
Oh, also, the protagonist/narrator is entirely unconscious for a few chapters at the book's climax, but she handles it by saying something like "I asked them about it later, and here's what they told me happened" and just continuing from there.
@@AmphibiousGentleman To be fair, Tolkein did that with the Hobbit.
@@jlcdavenport6268 Yeah, but that was a time skip in a book with third-person narration. Imagine if Bilbo himself described the entire sequence of the battle from start to finish, including multiple descriptions of other characters worrying about "me" (Bilbo) while fighting orcs or whatever, and ended with "And then I regained consciousness, having no idea of what had happened during the battle."
Also, I misremembered: she didn't just _ask_ them what had happened while she was out cold. She actually pulled the memories out of their heads with her magick.
I'm kinda fond of this one, but definitely agree with your criticisms. My first thoughts after watching it back in the day were "well, that was fun" and "there are so many weird old stories from that period they could've borrowed from, and made a better story". Plus, i also really wish they'd gone for more "traditional" alien designs, because the ones they went with really are just monsters from space.
The edit after "Clancy Brown is was my favorite character, I wish he was in it longer" was absolutely perfect
Remember that "The Brothers Grimm" movie from 2005? That's a really good example of that era of movies where everything had to be super serious and gritty. The premise of the movie is literally "what if we took Grimm fairy tales and made them serious and gritty" and it's a fever dream of a movie to go back to now.
I remember it
This movie is literally one of my childhood traumas.
the horse vore scene gave my nightmares
Rip Heath Ledger.
See also... Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters (2013), Snow White and the Huntsman (2012), Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012) and probably more. There were a lot of these!
Cowboys & Aliens & Knuckles
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
With new funky mode!
By the creators of skyrim
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As a New Vegas fan, I loved the small references you used
39:16 What was this video about?
I think it was something about… cows? And aliens I think. I forget.
I think Arthur from red dead fucks an alien idk I wasn’t really paying attention
That alcoholism can save you from exploding cows or something
Always game the system is all I got out of it
Something about a book.
Fun fact: when I was younger, I would put this movie on at my dad's house to fall asleep to, because I thought the movie was boring. Glad to know is that years later, that sentiment still holds up now!
This was one of the last few movies I saw with my mom before she died of cancer. I remember in the car ride after she said she really liked the action and fight scenes. Then later that night I heard her telling my dad it was complete cliche garbage and she rolled her eyes the whole time😂. Still happy she saw it with me and at least pretended to like it when I was little 😂
can't believe we were denied a Tex movie, that comic is a whole phenomenon in my family for some reason, so I'd love to see a movie about it, even if it would end up being just ok at best
The entire concept feels like something 8 year old me thought would be the coolest thing ever.
I'm 22 and the entire concept is still the coolest thing ever, I love this movie!
Funny you say that, cuz 8 year old me ate this shit up lol
The name alone is something I'd think off when I was 8 when I had all my action figures scattered about.
I was 39 when I saw it in the theater four times, because it was a super awesome and fun movie :-)
That's the problem this movie has imo. It's a fantastic concept but handled so badly it ruined the concept.
As an Australian, it cracks me up that Wild Wild West flopped, since the theme park with the ride based on that movie has never bothered to rebrand it
Tex isn't a generic western. Tex is comic character, brain child of two Italian artists. Impossible popular in Italy. It started its run in 1948 and it is still published to this day.
Italian comics are so underrated. They are great works out there yet no one in US does not seem to care. Most of the popular Eurocomics are Belgium ones.
Very popular in Brazil as well. It's the steriotypicial "your uncle has a very large collection of it for some reason" comic
Totally agree with you, _but_ for the average Hollywood executive, it is and will always be a "generic western". The fact it's not even an American western just makes it worse.
hadn't heard of it. I thought he was talking about (Jonah) Hex for a bit.
@@boryolmung9548 did you know there was an official Batman and Dylan Dog crossover comic semi-recently (like, a year or two ago)
I love it when you dig so much into the story of a film and the story behind. The Scott section is Gold, as much gold as the comic author made.
I remember being so hyped for this movie but being so disappointed by it.
Best memory of this movie was the scene where the mystic lady was touching the scar on the side of our hero’s torso, when I turned to my sister and her boyfriend at the time and said “Congratulations, you are with child.” That got a good chuckle and chortle out of them.
That was also my favorite memory. You were really on fire that night.
5:19 Hearing big iron playing calmly while James Bond murder cowboys and my brain cells remembering fallout new Vegas killed me and my soul lol 😂😂😂😂
Does anyone else remember the weird marketing for this film where Harrison Ford was on Jimmy Kimmel and yelled at chewie?
The quote "Daniel Craig is my wookie bitch now!" Lives rent free in my head
No. Then again, I don't watch Jimmy Fallon.
>that's a real thing that happened
ruclips.net/video/sWTtMdXAazs/video.html
No then again Jimmy Kimmel is a communist, and the last time I checked, very very very homosexual.
So I doubt anyone watched or even heard that that happened.
Does anyone remember the MadTV parody of this movie? Jeez i was a weird ass kid for watching that show
@@DeathLord1212000I just went and watched this clip… yeah… this just rented a room in my head… and paid for 6 years in advance, also “forget that Star Wars crap…” this of course being said before the revival of that franchise via the train wreck known as The Sequel Trilogy. If he only knew then what we know now 😂
As a kid, I thought this movie was somehow related to Monsters vs. Aliens and I think at some point thought this was part of some ‘Vs Aliens’ franchise.
Fun Fact: Tex one the most famous longrunning comics created in Italy.
It's been running since the 50s.
Infatti ero davvero confuso quando l'ha citato così, random. Potevamo avere un adattamento di Tex fatto da Hollywood?? Probabilmente avrebbe fatto cagare, visto che non riusciamo ad adattarle bene neanche noi le nostre proprietà creative hahahahahahha.
And still sells in Brasil!
Wtf can you do for that long? Talk about not knowing when to quit
@@AB-bg7os Ask Batman. 😅
Ho anche commentato che esistono diverse storie di Tex con alieni, di cui una ha un alieno intelligente ed umanoide. Anche se forse la storia con i fiori succhiasangue potrebbe essere la migliore.
My only memory of this film was watching half of it in primary school and thinking it was the greatest cinematic experience for the next week or two
I'd almost call this movie a guilty pleasure. It's James Bond and Han Solo in the Wild West battling aliens - a great premise in terms of "smashing your action figures together" storytelling logic.
Oh 100%. I might try to find a dvd of it or find it online
I felt that way about the Boba Fett show at first. Like Boba Fett played by Temuera Morrison with Mulan tagging along and becoming criminal kingpins? It should have been amazing.
It would be if it were fun. Unfortunately, it is not fun.
I have such a fond memory seeing this when I was 12 at the discount movie theatre / mini golf arcade that closed a few years later.
I remember around the time this came out there was another graphic novel titled Dinosaurs vs. Aliens (made by Barry Sonnenfeld from Men in Black) that allegedly also had a movie deal. I was actually waaaaay more excited for that. The cool twist it had was that it showed the dinosaurs actually having a bit of intelligence and a primitive culture, with tribal bone masks, stone tools and the ability to coordinate, so they were not entirely defenceless. It’s kind of the most extreme underdog story you could think of, pitting the most advanced lifeform you can think of against the most primitive. The aliens themselves were interestingly not portrayed as villains, but refugees from a ruined homeworld, not realizing that the creatures they are hurting with their terraforming efforts are more than just simple animals.
@manospondylus the way You described the dinosaurs, make them sound like They were just the precursors to the wings of fire dragons
20:36 "Committing a whole ass challenger to stop the aliens" holy shit! That caught me off guard.
The Big Bird episode lives rent-free in my head.
I never forgot Cowboys and Aliens. It holds a special place in my heart as the last movie we ever got from Blockbuster.
A movie about how Scott Rosenberg schemed for years to get his movie idea made would legit be more interesting than the movie itself
Only a couple of months ago, this movie ran on TV and my parents wanted to watch it with me. I still remember the titlescreen with writer "Alex Kurtzman" and, because of you, PointlessHub, I immediately facepalmed, knowing the movie would be neither good nor terrible, just there. And that's exactly what the movie ended up being. However, I also remember when Noah Ringer appeared and I shouted out loud: "AVATAR!" Also because of you PointlessHub. Thanks for the memories and unforgettable, alongside terrible movies.
0:43 No. I never forgot. *I can never forget.*
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Like Jack Black’s Gulliver’s travels.
Yes, that was a thing.
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@@jacksonhopp2003 Why in the holy name of Seth Putnam did you have to remind me that movie exists?
From what I remember the reason the aliens in Cowboys and Aliens came to earth was to harvest gold.
…Gold. Which is like one of the most common metals in space. Literal meteors of the stuff and yet they came to earth to dig through gold mines.
Probably got the idea from the dumb alien conquerors from Battlefield Earth. Who are so advanced they conquered Earth within minutes, yet require manual slave labor to get it and never bothered to put security measures from a human uprising that ended up destroying their flammable home planet.
I would LOVE to mine an astroid of gold! I heard that astronomers actually know of one that is maybe a few miles long that has more gold than has been mined on earth. Mind boggling!!
This is like russia invading America so they can steal diamonds
Looking back at this, I realised how it was pretty much the same as the aliens from Battlefield Earth, who also came to Earth to harvest gold.
"He basically caused his "graphic novel" to become a best seller by artificial means"
I CALLED IT. I KNEW IT.
I remember getting this graphic novel for free when I bought the Dark Tower comics
The Dark Tower should get a proper live action adaptation.
@@anubusxI heard there were talks of it getting a Tv series. Forgot who exactly it was but the guy is actually a fan of the books.
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I heard that as well.
Did you actually read it? If so, what did you think?
@@colormedubious4747 I did. I remember it being meh, and never felt like re-reading it. I was very surprised when I found out they were making it into a movie. And then surprised again when the movie turned out to be nothing like the graphic novel.
Honestly, you saying "and you most likely won't remember the plot by the second this video ends" made me realize that I had already forgotten lol
Fun fact, this is Steve Oedekirk's last screenwriting credit for a movie. Not only that but after jumping ship, he also tried directing an adaptation of the Don Knotts movie "The Incredible Mr Limpet" with Jim Carrey. Look up the footage for it because it's so freaky!
"I'll never know, BECAUSE THE COVENANT ATTACKED!!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pointless and alternate history uploads two videos in one day it must be a very good day.
Hi Cody, this might be a little corny, but this video came out on my last day of high school. I discovered your channel when I was a small freshman with your Battle LA video. Since then i quickly loved the rest of your channel since it also had videos on about every franchise I love. Also because I realized it was basically an alternatehistoryhub spin-off. Thanks for making content that I felt was near and dear to my heart throughout high school. Keep up the good work, and I’ll keep watching your videos as time moves on.
16:49- Fun fact, that scene made my mother cry in the theater. I can't say I was expecting that from Cowboys and Aliens.
I guess moms crying for the absolutely most predictable and ineffective sad moments you've ever seen in a movie is a common experience
Had she been crying before and after the scene too?
"With enough money, you can have Spielberg pretend he likes your idea".
That's good enough for me 😂
I was expecting you to say that Scott lied about the popularity of the comic, but I was NOT expecting that
Aang from ATLA movie in this movie too. Dude cant catch a break
So……are you the avatar ong?
Oh god, I completely forgot he was in this. I'm pretty sure this was his last movie role too, ouch, what a shitfest to end your acting career on.
@@kenzieuchiha1191and yet as shitty as it was, it was still better than m nights movie
@@theAverageJoe25 True. The Last Airbender will always be worse.
I watched this years ago with my dad and completely forgot about it until i saw this thumbnail. My dad really likes this movie.
That background reminds me so much of Perfection from Tremors. Hope that Hub covers it eventually. It's exactly the kind of genre he's into
It's honestly pretty cool seeing Cody's drawing skills improve over time. In his early videos he just sketched a one-colored room for the background but since his day after tomorrow video he themes them after the movies he's covering
His most recent Transformers video even uses 4 unique backgrounds
Tiny desert sounds under siege by scifi creatures is a great genre.
there's even one set in the old west era
I have unironically watched all your videos at least once since the last upload.
Is this a silly movie? Yes. Was it awesome to watch? Absolutely. These types of movies are my guilty pleasure. I love over the top action films with ridiculous plots and themes, couple that with a decent budget and I'm hooked. I'm not going in expected a 10/10 Oscar worthy level of cinema, I want a movie that I can just enjoy the utter chaos and have fun. Most people refer to this as "turning your brain off movies" but honestly I don't see it like that. I criticize what's in front of me while laughing my ass off.
I always felt this movie was the blueprint for Jon Favreau to one day make The Mandalorian. Both pure westerns with sci-fi injected into them, except with Mando he said "Okay but this time I'll make it fun... Until Season 3."
1 minute after posting is crazy. im addicted
Same
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I saw the midnight premier showing of this at my local theater like three days before I left for boot camp. I too, have forgotten this film.
He has returned...
When the world needed him most…
Somehow
Peak has returned
Cowboys and Aliens is the perfect "I'll tolerate it on mute in the background while I watch RUclips on the computer" movie.
11:15 I'm making cheesesticks and I am in awe of this subtle 3D perspective drawing here. The round smudge points fiercely off into the distance, though his face is dopey and lax. In most of the artwork we see in these videos, the characters are 2D perspective, mayhaps with a 3D perspective background. The round smudge is an awl to the marble of tradition, and I hope to see more masterful da-Vanci-esque perspective work from Mr. Hubbard.
14:04 hearing those elites scream in the background really just make me happy!
Man I had a crazy Mandela effect, I always thought the title was, "Cowboys VS Aliens"
probably confused it with monsters vs aliens
I thought that too at first but then remembered that the title in my language doesnt include versus
Probably because it's a better title
Also saaaammeeeee
It would make more sense to call it cowboys vs aliens because the 2 named group is opposing each other in the actual movie.
I am now watching this movie, on one condition, I get to listen to New Vegas' soundtrack while doing it.