Around 2006 I serviced a Spheros and a Stradic for my brother. Love the smoothness of the Stradic, though it’s loaded with parts, and was not fully salt ready. The Spheros was simple, robustly built, and all stainless internals. It was quite clean, and fast to service. Very impressive for a modestly priced reel. I’d recommend it!
I use a 2021 Spheros 10000 PG for offshore fishing from a kayak and it handles YFT, Wahoo, Mahimahi, and GT no problem. It gets splashed and dunked all the time and still running fine. Just make sure to oil the line roller to keep it from seizing.
@@anhdo1844 just put a drop of ReelX or other reel oil into the seams of the line roller and pull some line against it with light drag. This will spin the roller and help spread the oil Cheers!
I’ve been wanting a spheros reel since the first time I heard you mention one and the ipx ratings is something I’ve been paying attention to. Thanks for the info.
The 8k size is a bigger body and rotor, the 14k is same as 8k but with deeper cut spool. 6k is good light line surf reel, 8k to 14k pretty much tuna jigging reels.
@@christianflores7583 yea, ive lightened up a lot my surf gear over the years fishing the gulf coast beaches. 5500 penn and 6000 shimanos on 10-12ft rods. i use 20lb JB hollowcore backing for extra capacity and 30 solid braid for the working line, + shock leader. im really liking the spheros since i got it tbh, landed a big jack and a few big overslot drum no prob, smooth drag. ive never targeted legit tuna fish, its def on my one day list.
I personally would prefer the saragosa’s for the price point but the reel you have there is definitely worth the money and has a lot of what the gosa has in it. Gonna be a solid buy
Agree 100% about the drag Clicker. I have some reels that are silent when the fish pulls drag. In my opinion it makes fighting the fish more difficult because I find myself watching the reel instead of watching my line & the water. I want to listen to the drag and watch the line & the water while Im fighting a big fish. A loud Drag Screaming is an adrenaline rush for me. Where we disagree is the Daiwa BG. Yes they have quiet drags & thats a drawback but I have the BG 4500 & the BG 6500. For the price. (on sale for under $100.00) I find them to be VG, Smooth as silk reels with plenty of power. Besides I didnt purchase them with surf fishing in mind. That said, I do plan on adding another Shimano to my Collection & the Spheros SW looks like the ticket. I enjoyed UR report.
Just got the SW3000 Spheros for backwater fishing. Its gonna be sweet. Such light startup on the crank and soo smooth, almost Vanford smooth, I own both. Plus the roller bushing will last longer than the bearing on previous Stradics. I think Shimano got it right with this lineup in their respective categories.
I had just gotten the Daiwa BG MQ 6000 when they announced these. The price difference is huge and Daiwa doesn’t rate the sealing of the reel. So for 139 I had to get one (6000)! Killer review!
i was looking at a daiwa bg magsealed 8000 for scottish pollack but reading many reviews from guys who have got one has put me right off them, they say after 6 months to a year if you dont use the reel f😊 its going to be a spheros 10000 for me next month, i have used shimanos for over 30 years now and thought i'd try something different just for a change, in that 30 years i have collected 11 shimanos and not one of them has ever gave me one single problem, so its back to shimano for me, they do build good quality reels 💪🏼
Same but me is for surf sharks in SPL IN TEXAS! We get big sharks here, but want a small reel to get some smaller sharks you usually catch 8ft+ here mainly tigers.!
I love this reel! I have one myself and it's one of my favorites. The Diawa BG is also an excellent reel that I love so much I've gotten 3 of them. Keep up the good work brotha. Love the channel.
i use my original 14 spheros sw for stripers and I love the slower gear ratio for working lures like swimbaits etc. I wish the new one came in different gear ratios
what did you loaded the 8000 with? I am replacing few reels and went with the spheros SW, funny enough I can sell a couple of Saragosa 14(I think 14 model purchased in 19) and get new spheros for that money. I got 2X 10000 to replace BG 5000 for flat lines, live bait pitching on surface on trevalla mh (sailfish and Mahi), 1X 14000 to replace Stradic 8000 FJ on Centaur combat arm inshore popper (plugs, poppers, jigs) and 18000 to replace saragosa 10000 on trevalla XH (bottom snapper, AJ and what comes, I have loaded them all with 50LBS yo zuri super braid. Was thinking to put 65lbs on the 18000 but will try 50 instead to reach bottom easier when in current or wind situation. Drag is only 40 max anyway and that's on paper... 600 yards haha (Tomo's tackle sells bulk spools at reasonable price. The BG's 5000 have been good to me, blackfin tunas, sailfish mahi but water gets in them and clicker is not loud enough as you mentioned in your video. to be noted that the 14000 and 18000 did not come with spare spool shims in the box, luckily the high was correctly set in factory.
excellent video and very well explained the truth is that I did not find a video so well explained ... I need one of those cartels to fish in boats, which one do you recommend the shimano spheros sw at 8000 ..... or the shimano spheros sw reel at 14000 xg thanks ageadesco your answer for big weights
On the 4k size the downside is it has 3 plastic small gears inside but I believe they can be directly swapped for the twin powers which are metal. I dropped my reel on the floor and the plastic gear moved and I reeled it and folded over two teeth that’s when I noticed looking at parts diagrams it might be possible to swap them. Just make sure it’s the same size reel
I got the SW 6000 this week mostly for casting lures and of course you can use baits. I have the SW 14000 for fishing from boat. For live bait or bottom fishing I have the Thunnus 12000. And Yes, I'm Shimano fan! (My conventionals reels are Shimano too).
No mate, the bg was a response to the spheros, not the other way around. And it failed, though came close and offered decent value in its own way. Closer with the mq. Now the new one is here and shimano stomped again. Only question now is how well the slammer 4 competes against the gosa sw-a, or should I say, spheros sw-a, or dare I say, the saragosa sw, as im waiting to see whether the slammer 4 offers me any real value over those 3 shimano models. It remains to be seen if the slammer 4 is any upgrade over the slammer 3. Shimano-san did well to trickle down to the spheros swa and create some tidal waves in the "competition". The penn clash 2 already failed as a response to the spheros even before it hit the stores. Thanks for your vids mate, I always enjoy them. Cool voice too.
I would love to hear more of your thoughts on the Slammer 4 vs Gosa. It’s been 4 months since you wrote. I am going to buy a couple of spheros for some cheaper rods I have, and I am planning on buying a 10,000 saragosa for another rod. Isn’t the swa you mention the newer and better sw? Would like to hear your thoughts
@@Colonel1Bravo the slammer 4 is heavier, not sealed as well, has a smaller main gear although made of brass, and is much more expensive. At the moment there seems to be a lack of reports on the slammer 4 regarding reliability, where almost none are needed for the gosa swa, its track record is established unlike the slammer 3 that had handle, pinion sealing and roller bearing issues, which were later fixed silently years later, none of which have yet been confirmed absent from the slammer 4. The Swa is a true upgrade, they took a great reel and made it better constructed with longer screws in better places, making the body stronger despite being a hybrid aluminium and carbon infused body, compared to penns that is full aluminium. its even better sealed, much larger cold forged aluminium gear and brass pinion next to the penn, its lighter, has a redesigned one piece handle for optimised cranking power that can handle higher loads, it has improved AR clutch mounting making it even stronger, the pinion and gears are changed to be more centred for more crank power, it has floating main shaft for better stability (infinity drive), requires less servicing, butter smooth dual drag albeit slightly lower rating than the penn, but retains the carbon infused rotor whereas the penns is metal. The new swa gearbox is more compact and the traverse block is upgraded for higher strength. The new swa delivers superior cranking power with tighter tolerances, has 6 minebea mitsumi Japanese made bearings compared to 9 non-japanese in the slammer 4. The swa isn't as smooth as the slammer 4 when turning the handle, but under load the swa is the more solid reel. The line roller assembly is also completely sealed to ipx8 and better designed in the swa. And it's cheaper to buy the swa. The larger SWA models 18k onwards have a spool bearing for added support and a backup antireverse. The gosa has brass bushings instead of bearings for the handle and oscillation gear. There's a new slammer 4, the DX edition, which has an upgraded stainless steel main gear and pinion like the okuma makaira, and depending on the grade of this steel, may be the only significant advantage over the saragosa, besides the metal rotor which only helps to yield a slightly smoother drag at the top end but milliseconds only. The DX is also sealed better than the standard slammer 4 but so far I don't know how it compares to the SWA. It may at least be to the standard of the previous model SW?? The DX is also more expensive. Durability wise the stainless steel gear and pinion of the DX is a strong combination and a formidable upgrade. As for the "whole package", that's dependant upon your preferences. So i leave you with this, how did they improve the sealing in the new DX? What was missing in the normal slammer 4? With the swa you are buying a stronger locomotive drivetrain version of a stella, in some areas even better than a 2019 stella, minus the aluminium rotor, hardened spool lip and less bearings due to having a different drive train. The only bearings that could theoretically be added to the swa are the secondary oscillation gear mounting, handle and spool. But their absence doesn't impede performance. With the spheros swa you buying a watered down saragosa with a less capable drag force and different 2 piece handle and other price appropriate changes. Same sealing however. Its about price. The slammer 4 may well only be able to provide a full aluminium metal rotor and body, a stainless steel main gear and pinion in the DX, a slightly higher drag, and a smoother experience than the gosa swa which is quickly forgotten under load. Does that justify the price? To read the full engineer's review of the swa, visit alanhawk.com and browse the reviews section.
@@vizionsys that’s an amazing write up and you have been so generous with your time and opinions. Wow, so greatly appreciated. I’m certainly sold on the Saragosa. I feel like trying the DX, yet my next thought is why do that when I could just use that extra money on more gosa’s instead
@@Colonel1Bravo you're welcome. You are right, the gosas are leading the way bang for buck. In all honesty, both reels will offer a pleasurable experience. The slammer 4 is a tank of a reel, it will take some heavy abuse no doubt, but at the end of the day it is really a personal preference. Sometimes it's a simple matter of going in to a store and seeing/feeling which one you prefer, but especially in the case of the gosa, it really must be used in the field in order to appreciate the feel and power of it. Although it may be the case that you can get a new slammer 3 for cheap, that may be an option depending on what the real differences are between the slammer 3 vs 4. If the slammer 4 isn't much of an upgrade, the slammer 3 may still be a reasonable contender if the price is right but it would to be priced in the spheros ballpark!. The only thing we don't know for certain is how well sealed the slammer 4 is. However if you don't plan on dunking or splashing the reel, the fact that it's full metal with a higher drag may be the more appealing reason for you to consider it. Perhaps penn will someday make a leap forward and increase the size of the main gear. I would have considered buying a dx later down the track if the prices dropped significantly if only the main gear wasn't so small. It bothers me personally. I highly recommend you read Alan's review of the gosa, where it is compared directly to the stella. He is the man you should be listening to, he keeps them all honest and calls out any nonsense in the fishing industry. Cheers and best wishes with your purchase. Regards.
@@vizionsys thank you so much. I already know I will definitely buy a 10k saragosa for my needs. One day, like you, I may consider a DX if the prices stabilize more. I’m sure that is sometime off. The 3’s that are listed as cheap here in America are not in stock, there are plenty of 3’s in stock yet at a slammer 4 price
I bought all the missing bearings from Shimano off the stradic fk schematics and now it's my go to reel. The only thing missing to me is the one piece bail
I was keenly anticipating purchasing a BG MQ or getting another Spinfisher VI. Then I learned about the 2021 Spheros SW A and I am so glad I did. The BG MQ has a cheap cast zinc main gear, the average owner won't be able to remove the side plate for service, and its sealing has an Achilles heel. The SSVI is very nice -- decent sealing, quality gears, good drag, etc. -- but the Spheros is just a little more refined.
I know this is an old”ish” video. Hoping you still reply. Torn between getting the 6000 spheros or the 6000 saragosa. No really good in depth comparisons out there right now. What’s your thoughts?
Shimano saragossa, used by other angler youtubers, especially hey skipper . Shimano spheros , used by beachbomber fishing. What are ur thoughts on the saragossa?
@@BeachBomberFishing and it have wooble on the handle? I have an okuma surf 8k and it have lot of wobble and the spool also have some kind of wobble. Thanks for your advice I will get the spheros no doubt of your word.
It has a manual bail which means you need to close the ball by hand. Which is a better habit anyways in almost every way, especially in regards to tangles and rod knots and such, not that Shimano reels have to worry about that usually
Should have got this reel instead of the ultegra xtd 5500 ... learned the hard way when it got dropped in the surf 🤦🏽♂️... that rating is soooo important Is it a long cast spool? Super slow oscillating?
The Ultegra is a great reel but it will only take water splashes. It is really not designed to be in the water. It is designed for long casts and the 5500 is for light Surfcasting, with this I mean it should be used with maximum 4 oz sinkers and will handle moderately sized fish (up to 15lb or so). I have two and use them at the beach with great results but I would never attempt to wade often or fight big fish. Ultegra's casting performance with my 13-ft rods is awesome and you won't need to wade at all. At the beach, the Spheros will be ideal for those that like to wade and get closer to the water, it is a powerful and very rigid reel, so targeting big fish (Tarpon, Sharks, etc), should not be a problem at all. Spheros will not cast as well but not too far off the Ultegra in the right hands with the right rod and technique, it is not slow oscillating and its spool is of a smaller diameter (about 8-10mm comparing Ultegra 5500 vs Spheros 6000). However, Shimano has the best line lay in the market and the AR-C spool, you may loose 10% distance all things being equal. Both great reels!
@@christiancml yeah I was on shore in the surf but something big pulled it in the water with the rod holder and all... luckily it got wrapped around the base of another rod holder and didn't get pulled out to sea Craziness I know Use curado dc and vanford for wade trips Thanks for the info
hello, i would like to buy a shimano socorro 6000, and i am undecided between a socorro 6000 and a spheros sw 6000 pg, what is the difference between the two? what difference do they have?
I'm looking to buy the 10k size to load it with 65lb braid for surf fishing with bait. What would be a good rod to pair it with? Was looking at the Tsunami Trophy 2 Surf Rod 10.6ft Heavy rod. Rated for 4-8oz and 20-40lb mono
About i buy new shimano spheros sw C5000xg 2021 The bail arm its not automatically close if i used the handle i have to closed it manually. did the modle like that or this issues in the product . Please confirm with me urgently
Most of the better reels bail arm will not automatically close...this is to prevent your lure from snapping off if you touch the handle by mistake while casting
im pretty certain the 5000 and 6000 are the same reel body with different size spools , like the 8k and 14k are the same with differnt size spools. look at the reel weights and drag specs. 20/30lb braid go with the 5000/6000.... 50lb+ braid go with the 8000/14000
SW 6000 is the way to go because the next model (8000) the weight is heavy for casting. I have the SW 6000 HG and SW 14000 HG models for different applications. If I need more power I use Torium HG and Tyrnos II for offshore fishing.
@@BeachBomberFishing You just know nothing about that size. Its a rebranding of the previous stradic which is a proven great reel for inshore fishing just not surf fishing.
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Hi joe surprise to see you here. New spheros 2021 is tick all the boxes. Compare to bg mq(which is difficult to maintenance) the new spheros is mile ahead
Around 2006 I serviced a Spheros and a Stradic for my brother.
Love the smoothness of the Stradic, though it’s loaded with parts, and was not fully salt ready.
The Spheros was simple, robustly built, and all stainless internals.
It was quite clean, and fast to service.
Very impressive for a modestly priced reel.
I’d recommend it!
I use a 2021 Spheros 10000 PG for offshore fishing from a kayak and it handles YFT, Wahoo, Mahimahi, and GT no problem. It gets splashed and dunked all the time and still running fine. Just make sure to oil the line roller to keep it from seizing.
How you oil the line rooler? What’s kind of oil ? Thanks
@@anhdo1844 just put a drop of ReelX or other reel oil into the seams of the line roller and pull some line against it with light drag. This will spin the roller and help spread the oil Cheers!
@@AffordableWahoo thanks
his 14 spheros lasted 7yrs no problem, wonder if his needs oil-ing often? maybe the new one is not as good?
great review my friend im from malaysia and wanna get it one for boating yeahh0
I’ve been wanting a spheros reel since the first time I heard you mention one and the ipx ratings is something I’ve been paying attention to. Thanks for the info.
I bought a spheros 15+ years ago and its still one of my fav reels
Glad to have found this review from an actual owner. Bought a 5 and 8k. Thanks man!
Does the Spheros 5000 have a manual bail flip like the Saragosa?
Been waiting for this! Great review 🤙
the 6000 size comes in at 16oz and the 8000 size is 23.5 oz? almost an extra half pound?? I might have to go with the 6k and use lighter line..
The 8k size is a bigger body and rotor, the 14k is same as 8k but with deeper cut spool. 6k is good light line surf reel, 8k to 14k pretty much tuna jigging reels.
@@christianflores7583 yea, ive lightened up a lot my surf gear over the years fishing the gulf coast beaches. 5500 penn and 6000 shimanos on 10-12ft rods. i use 20lb JB hollowcore backing for extra capacity and 30 solid braid for the working line, + shock leader. im really liking the spheros since i got it tbh, landed a big jack and a few big overslot drum no prob, smooth drag. ive never targeted legit tuna fish, its def on my one day list.
Yea it’s a lot specially if you are casting lures all day
thanks for the explanation, I already ordered my shimano spheros 6k
I personally would prefer the saragosa’s for the price point but the reel you have there is definitely worth the money and has a lot of what the gosa has in it. Gonna be a solid buy
Agree 100% about the drag Clicker. I have some reels that are silent when the fish pulls drag. In my opinion it makes fighting the fish more difficult because I find myself watching the reel instead of watching my line & the water. I want to listen to the drag and watch the line & the water while Im fighting a big fish. A loud Drag Screaming is an adrenaline rush for me. Where we disagree is the Daiwa BG. Yes they have quiet drags & thats a drawback but I have the BG 4500 & the BG 6500. For the price. (on sale for under $100.00) I find them to be VG, Smooth as silk reels with plenty of power. Besides I didnt purchase them with surf fishing in mind. That said, I do plan on adding another Shimano to my Collection & the Spheros SW looks like the ticket. I enjoyed UR report.
You put me on the other spheros and i ended up getting one. Finally broke it in 3 weeks ago on a bull red. The drag screaming sounded soooo good.
Just got the SW3000 Spheros for backwater fishing. Its gonna be sweet. Such light startup on the crank and soo smooth, almost Vanford smooth, I own both. Plus the roller bushing will last longer than the bearing on previous Stradics. I think Shimano got it right with this lineup in their respective categories.
The 3000 size sucks
@@Mffl1014 nah, it's good just less sealed
I had just gotten the Daiwa BG MQ 6000 when they announced these. The price difference is huge and Daiwa doesn’t rate the sealing of the reel. So for 139 I had to get one (6000)! Killer review!
i was looking at a daiwa bg magsealed 8000 for scottish pollack but reading many reviews from guys who have got one has put me right off them, they say after 6 months to a year if you dont use the reel f😊 its going to be a spheros 10000 for me next month, i have used shimanos for over 30 years now and thought i'd try something different just for a change, in that 30 years i have collected 11 shimanos and not one of them has ever gave me one single problem, so its back to shimano for me, they do build good quality reels 💪🏼
Perfect timing on this, I am building a musky spinning rod and have been looking for a reel for it. This looks like the one. Another great video.
Same but me is for surf sharks in SPL IN TEXAS! We get big sharks here, but want a small reel to get some smaller sharks you usually catch 8ft+ here mainly tigers.!
I love this reel! I have one myself and it's one of my favorites. The Diawa BG is also an excellent reel that I love so much I've gotten 3 of them. Keep up the good work brotha. Love the channel.
Bg sucks ass , good to hear
Thanks for the video. Why didn't you like the Spheros inshore? I have a 3k and it's very similar to my older 3k stradics. Thanks
i use my original 14 spheros sw for stripers and I love the slower gear ratio for working lures like swimbaits etc. I wish the new one came in different gear ratios
Good review as always. What’s a good affordable surf rod to pair it with? Looking to upgrade my gear.
Thx for the info, enjoy the vids even if you do reel left hand.
Awesome content you are sharing here. What’s your thoughts on shimano saragosa swa and shimano stradic compare to this reel?
what did you loaded the 8000 with? I am replacing few reels and went with the spheros SW, funny enough I can sell a couple of Saragosa 14(I think 14 model purchased in 19) and get new spheros for that money. I got 2X 10000 to replace BG 5000 for flat lines, live bait pitching on surface on trevalla mh (sailfish and Mahi), 1X 14000 to replace Stradic 8000 FJ on Centaur combat arm inshore popper (plugs, poppers, jigs) and 18000 to replace saragosa 10000 on trevalla XH (bottom snapper, AJ and what comes, I have loaded them all with 50LBS yo zuri super braid. Was thinking to put 65lbs on the 18000 but will try 50 instead to reach bottom easier when in current or wind situation. Drag is only 40 max anyway and that's on paper... 600 yards haha (Tomo's tackle sells bulk spools at reasonable price. The BG's 5000 have been good to me, blackfin tunas, sailfish mahi but water gets in them and clicker is not loud enough as you mentioned in your video. to be noted that the 14000 and 18000 did not come with spare spool shims in the box, luckily the high was correctly set in factory.
excellent video and very well explained the truth is that I did not find a video so well explained ... I need one of those cartels to fish in boats, which one do you recommend the shimano spheros sw at 8000 ..... or the shimano spheros sw reel at 14000 xg thanks ageadesco your answer for big weights
Thinking about getting this reel but I do have the money for a twin power reel sw but do like what this reel brings to the table.
Nice Review, thanks for the detail.
Awesome review , what rod you got this reel paired to ?
On the 4k size the downside is it has 3 plastic small gears inside but I believe they can be directly swapped for the twin powers which are metal. I dropped my reel on the floor and the plastic gear moved and I reeled it and folded over two teeth that’s when I noticed looking at parts diagrams it might be possible to swap them. Just make sure it’s the same size reel
Thanks for the review. Im gonna get one in 6000 size. I think 8000 will be too heavy to throw lures all day long.
Id def recommend the 6k for lures
I got the SW 6000 this week mostly for casting lures and of course you can use baits. I have the SW 14000 for fishing from boat. For live bait or bottom fishing I have the Thunnus 12000. And Yes, I'm Shimano fan! (My conventionals reels are Shimano too).
No mate, the bg was a response to the spheros, not the other way around. And it failed, though came close and offered decent value in its own way. Closer with the mq. Now the new one is here and shimano stomped again. Only question now is how well the slammer 4 competes against the gosa sw-a, or should I say, spheros sw-a, or dare I say, the saragosa sw, as im waiting to see whether the slammer 4 offers me any real value over those 3 shimano models. It remains to be seen if the slammer 4 is any upgrade over the slammer 3. Shimano-san did well to trickle down to the spheros swa and create some tidal waves in the "competition". The penn clash 2 already failed as a response to the spheros even before it hit the stores.
Thanks for your vids mate, I always enjoy them. Cool voice too.
I would love to hear more of your thoughts on the Slammer 4 vs Gosa. It’s been 4 months since you wrote. I am going to buy a couple of spheros for some cheaper rods I have, and I am planning on buying a 10,000 saragosa for another rod. Isn’t the swa you mention the newer and better sw? Would like to hear your thoughts
@@Colonel1Bravo the slammer 4 is heavier, not sealed as well, has a smaller main gear although made of brass, and is much more expensive. At the moment there seems to be a lack of reports on the slammer 4 regarding reliability, where almost none are needed for the gosa swa, its track record is established unlike the slammer 3 that had handle, pinion sealing and roller bearing issues, which were later fixed silently years later, none of which have yet been confirmed absent from the slammer 4. The Swa is a true upgrade, they took a great reel and made it better constructed with longer screws in better places, making the body stronger despite being a hybrid aluminium and carbon infused body, compared to penns that is full aluminium. its even better sealed, much larger cold forged aluminium gear and brass pinion next to the penn, its lighter, has a redesigned one piece handle for optimised cranking power that can handle higher loads, it has improved AR clutch mounting making it even stronger, the pinion and gears are changed to be more centred for more crank power, it has floating main shaft for better stability (infinity drive), requires less servicing, butter smooth dual drag albeit slightly lower rating than the penn, but retains the carbon infused rotor whereas the penns is metal. The new swa gearbox is more compact and the traverse block is upgraded for higher strength. The new swa delivers superior cranking power with tighter tolerances, has 6 minebea mitsumi Japanese made bearings compared to 9 non-japanese in the slammer 4. The swa isn't as smooth as the slammer 4 when turning the handle, but under load the swa is the more solid reel. The line roller assembly is also completely sealed to ipx8 and better designed in the swa. And it's cheaper to buy the swa. The larger SWA models 18k onwards have a spool bearing for added support and a backup antireverse. The gosa has brass bushings instead of bearings for the handle and oscillation gear.
There's a new slammer 4, the DX edition, which has an upgraded stainless steel main gear and pinion like the okuma makaira, and depending on the grade of this steel, may be the only significant advantage over the saragosa, besides the metal rotor which only helps to yield a slightly smoother drag at the top end but milliseconds only. The DX is also sealed better than the standard slammer 4 but so far I don't know how it compares to the SWA. It may at least be to the standard of the previous model SW?? The DX is also more expensive. Durability wise the stainless steel gear and pinion of the DX is a strong combination and a formidable upgrade. As for the "whole package", that's dependant upon your preferences.
So i leave you with this, how did they improve the sealing in the new DX? What was missing in the normal slammer 4?
With the swa you are buying a stronger locomotive drivetrain version of a stella, in some areas even better than a 2019 stella, minus the aluminium rotor, hardened spool lip and less bearings due to having a different drive train. The only bearings that could theoretically be added to the swa are the secondary oscillation gear mounting, handle and spool. But their absence doesn't impede performance.
With the spheros swa you buying a watered down saragosa with a less capable drag force and different 2 piece handle and other price appropriate changes. Same sealing however.
Its about price. The slammer 4 may well only be able to provide a full aluminium metal rotor and body, a stainless steel main gear and pinion in the DX, a slightly higher drag, and a smoother experience than the gosa swa which is quickly forgotten under load. Does that justify the price?
To read the full engineer's review of the swa, visit alanhawk.com and browse the reviews section.
@@vizionsys that’s an amazing write up and you have been so generous with your time and opinions. Wow, so greatly appreciated. I’m certainly sold on the Saragosa. I feel like trying the DX, yet my next thought is why do that when I could just use that extra money on more gosa’s instead
@@Colonel1Bravo you're welcome. You are right, the gosas are leading the way bang for buck. In all honesty, both reels will offer a pleasurable experience. The slammer 4 is a tank of a reel, it will take some heavy abuse no doubt, but at the end of the day it is really a personal preference. Sometimes it's a simple matter of going in to a store and seeing/feeling which one you prefer, but especially in the case of the gosa, it really must be used in the field in order to appreciate the feel and power of it.
Although it may be the case that you can get a new slammer 3 for cheap, that may be an option depending on what the real differences are between the slammer 3 vs 4. If the slammer 4 isn't much of an upgrade, the slammer 3 may still be a reasonable contender if the price is right but it would to be priced in the spheros ballpark!. The only thing we don't know for certain is how well sealed the slammer 4 is. However if you don't plan on dunking or splashing the reel, the fact that it's full metal with a higher drag may be the more appealing reason for you to consider it. Perhaps penn will someday make a leap forward and increase the size of the main gear. I would have considered buying a dx later down the track if the prices dropped significantly if only the main gear wasn't so small. It bothers me personally.
I highly recommend you read Alan's review of the gosa, where it is compared directly to the stella. He is the man you should be listening to, he keeps them all honest and calls out any nonsense in the fishing industry.
Cheers and best wishes with your purchase. Regards.
@@vizionsys thank you so much. I already know I will definitely buy a 10k saragosa for my needs. One day, like you, I may consider a DX if the prices stabilize more. I’m sure that is sometime off. The 3’s that are listed as cheap here in America are not in stock, there are plenty of 3’s in stock yet at a slammer 4 price
Thanks for the info I been buying Penn for years.
LOL ASMR for fishing!! Thanks for the review man!
Which one do you recommend my friend, between the stradic SW... vs spheros SW.
Do you think the 6000 can handle the surf and jetties? I’m about to purchase a couple of these and wanted your opinion before I order them.
The 6k os definitely nore than capable. I've caught a ton of big fish on the old spheros 6k with 30lb braid.
@@BeachBomberFishing ok thanks bro. See you out there.
@@BeachBomberFishingwhat type of big fish ? And how much did these big fish weigh?
The SW 3000-4000 is basically a Stradic minus a ball bearing. Great for freshwater but not as well suited for saltwater
I bought all the missing bearings from Shimano off the stradic fk schematics and now it's my go to reel. The only thing missing to me is the one piece bail
I was keenly anticipating purchasing a BG MQ or getting another Spinfisher VI. Then I learned about the 2021 Spheros SW A and I am so glad I did. The BG MQ has a cheap cast zinc main gear, the average owner won't be able to remove the side plate for service, and its sealing has an Achilles heel. The SSVI is very nice -- decent sealing, quality gears, good drag, etc. -- but the Spheros is just a little more refined.
Thank you for sharing I will definitely get one🎣
I got 13’ and 15’ surf rods I’m trying to get set up. I fish 30-50lb braid with similar lb leader. You think the 8000 would be a great match?
I have spheros 5000 sw and it holds up nice. I spooled with 50 lb braid and it can boss around bull reds like nothing.
I know this is an old”ish” video. Hoping you still reply. Torn between getting the 6000 spheros or the 6000 saragosa. No really good in depth comparisons out there right now. What’s your thoughts?
Is this good for off shore jigging ?
Any update on this reel? Is it still good? Thanks
Shimano saragossa, used by other angler youtubers, especially hey skipper . Shimano spheros , used by beachbomber fishing. What are ur thoughts on the saragossa?
it’s 95% the same as the spheros
Man bro the clicker sounds nice ! Kinda like 2 piercings scissoring !! Haha
Should have gotten the 14k, same size and weight as 8k, but deeper spool and higher retrieve.
Hi I bought 8000 but my rod line capacity is ont 6-15 lb ugly stik gx 2. What will happen if I us mismatch line capacity.Any suggestions ...
Love my 2014 spheros 6000. Wanna try these new ones
Hello Beach bomber this or the spinFisher vi? I do surf fishing mi reels doesn't get wet very often. Thanks
Id get this over the spinfisher
@@BeachBomberFishing and it have wooble on the handle? I have an okuma surf 8k and it have lot of wobble and the spool also have some kind of wobble. Thanks for your advice I will get the spheros no doubt of your word.
I’m getting this one today and the twin power in the summer. Have to save up for that one.
How long is the rod you pair for this 8k spheros?
Is a 11’ speedmaster surf rod too much rod for the 8000?
i'm literally in the market right now to buy a new real. W timing
What would be better this in 8000 or 14000?
Also what is a good rod for it?
Why does the 3000-4000 suck? 🤔
I just gat a brand new Spheros and the bail does NOT close when you turn the handle? is this normal or mine is defective?
It has a manual bail which means you need to close the ball by hand. Which is a better habit anyways in almost every way, especially in regards to tangles and rod knots and such, not that Shimano reels have to worry about that usually
Should have got this reel instead of the ultegra xtd 5500 ... learned the hard way when it got dropped in the surf 🤦🏽♂️... that rating is soooo important
Is it a long cast spool? Super slow oscillating?
The Ultegra is a great reel but it will only take water splashes. It is really not designed to be in the water. It is designed for long casts and the 5500 is for light Surfcasting, with this I mean it should be used with maximum 4 oz sinkers and will handle moderately sized fish (up to 15lb or so). I have two and use them at the beach with great results but I would never attempt to wade often or fight big fish. Ultegra's casting performance with my 13-ft rods is awesome and you won't need to wade at all. At the beach, the Spheros will be ideal for those that like to wade and get closer to the water, it is a powerful and very rigid reel, so targeting big fish (Tarpon, Sharks, etc), should not be a problem at all. Spheros will not cast as well but not too far off the Ultegra in the right hands with the right rod and technique, it is not slow oscillating and its spool is of a smaller diameter (about 8-10mm comparing Ultegra 5500 vs Spheros 6000). However, Shimano has the best line lay in the market and the AR-C spool, you may loose 10% distance all things being equal. Both great reels!
@@christiancml yeah I was on shore in the surf but something big pulled it in the water with the rod holder and all... luckily it got wrapped around the base of another rod holder and didn't get pulled out to sea
Craziness I know
Use curado dc and vanford for wade trips
Thanks for the info
Do you think the 20k is enough for #80 braid how many yards do you think I I could get?
That's more than big enough lol
@@BeachBomberFishing Alr ye casue I only have uses 50ws,80ws and 130s for lbsf
How has it held up
This is my best all around salt water reel
Can I use this for trouts as well ??
Just picked up the 8000 combo. Can’t wait to put the meat stick to the test on a big jack.
What is the difference between 5000xg and 5000hg
With such an awesome promotion Shimano should give you a couple of its reels to you for free! Is this reel sealed against saltwater intrusion?
would this be good for some inshore saltwater?
hello, i would like to buy a shimano socorro 6000, and i am undecided between a socorro 6000 and a spheros sw 6000 pg, what is the difference between the two? what difference do they have?
Let me just save you some time: get the Spheros and don't look back.
Can you add a link on which one to buy?
Is this only for saltwater ? Can I use on fresh water for strippers hybrids?
if it says SW, then it for sure can be used in fresh as salt is the corrosive one of the two
I'm looking to buy the 10k size to load it with 65lb braid for surf fishing with bait. What would be a good rod to pair it with? Was looking at the Tsunami Trophy 2 Surf Rod 10.6ft Heavy rod. Rated for 4-8oz and 20-40lb mono
how about 4000 ?Is it good?
How is new saragosa sw compared to this 1 please reply
what braid number spooled on that reel?
Been considering the Spheros or Saragosa. Which would you recommend
Saragosa for sure
@@BeachBomberFishing Thanks brotha. Love the videos
About i buy new shimano spheros sw C5000xg 2021
The bail arm its not automatically close if i used the handle i have to closed it manually.
did the modle like that or this issues in the product .
Please confirm with me urgently
Most of the better reels bail arm will not automatically close...this is to prevent your lure from snapping off if you touch the handle by mistake while casting
Vamos que vamos !!!@
Where can I buy 1 online? Cannot find it
This Reel use "Lock type Reel" or "Fitment List"?
Does it handle 6oz sinkers well?
What’s that thing you wrap the line on before you launch it out ?
Its a surfcasting trigger. Lets you cast harder with heavier weight, without the braid cutting your fingers
How many spool sims are on the new spheros
And gar here in texas ooffff we caught a 8’0 gar 6inches from the world record .
Beach bomber fishing!!!! I just got this 6000 and it's crazy, the BG is garbage!!! I'm returning the BG I just bought smh
This reel is 💯 better than the bg
I will get
Which size is the one u have?
8k
"The BG felt cheap"? I don't think so at all.
Lmfao it did to me 🤣
I wanna get this reel now, i need a new one🎣
Why you are put plastic ties of the reel Sir? It seems to be uncomfortable so as is.
Its not on the reel, i put them on the casting aid.
agree. I selling my BG
is the 5000HG size of this reel worth to get or other size better?
im pretty certain the 5000 and 6000 are the same reel body with different size spools , like the 8k and 14k are the same with differnt size spools. look at the reel weights and drag specs. 20/30lb braid go with the 5000/6000.... 50lb+ braid go with the 8000/14000
@@qwiswaz9774 should get HG or PG?
@@fdsaffff SPHEROS SW A
SW 6000 is the way to go because the next model (8000) the weight is heavy for casting. I have the SW 6000 HG and SW 14000 HG models for different applications. If I need more power I use Torium HG and Tyrnos II for offshore fishing.
Had to subscribe bro. Great content
Don’t see why your hating on 3000 and 4000 size, just think it was your opinion and didn’t like the size
That reel sucks imo
@@BeachBomberFishing friends have the 4000 and can’t complain about it,smooth as a stradic
@@BeachBomberFishing You just know nothing about that size. Its a rebranding of the previous stradic which is a proven great reel for inshore fishing just not surf fishing.
Do you have a link
Wow good thing I was about to get the wrong one lol
Ĩ need this réel but i'm inwest Sénégal Africa
I hooked a 5 ft. tiger shark with the Shimano Spheros 6000 combo. See video short here: ruclips.net/user/shortsOgWU8JJZLFA
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Thks for sharing..from kauai hawaii..after 81 reels I have field tested my 82 reel is the new 2021 6kswa 6000. After 81 reels the 2014 is still the top reel 355 hrs of use mainly cranking 2oz lures. The next reel closest is 135 hrs before failure. Its durability, performance and price point is awesome. Caught many GTs with this reel. This 21 model is built better....52 Gt strikes since 2012 from shore..landed 23 lost 29..thks for sharing
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Hi joe surprise to see you here. New spheros 2021 is tick all the boxes. Compare to bg mq(which is difficult to maintenance) the new spheros is mile ahead
@@igedewahyuarsana yep...best reel so far..that I have field tested for GTs..and small game..
@@igedewahyuarsana yep the BG MQ failed pretty fast..