Nixon Answers: Why Did He Go To China?
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- From the oral history collections of the University of Georgia.
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0:14 "what brought us together ... was not a convergence of ideas, but a convergence of interests."
And that "convergence of interests" was. The Soviets.
@@riff2072 was to "stay in power!!" and not the Soviets.
Under Nixon, Taiwan was kicked out of UNSC "permanent" membership and CCP replaced it.
Not only that, Taiwan was just kicked out of UN all together.
Because, suddenly, Taiwan was a part of China?
And then Nixon made humiliating visit to China, forced to eat and sleep there for A WEEK?
What the hell was going on?
I think it was the right decision at the time. He drove a wedge between USSR and China back when China was far weaker than USSR. It was a brilliant move. However, the mistake was made decades later by subsequent administrations who failed to adjust to the changing political realities around the collapse of the USSR and the rising threat of China. We should have revised our policies to China 25 years ago. The only recent president who instinctively saw this was Trump but he didn’t have the diplomatic skills or cooperative state department to expand on his correct instincts.
I absolutely agree with your assessment John. Trump has the tools and the will to step on this evil Xi Jin Ping and the punk known as Kim Jong Un, but didn't quite follow through on it.
Had the tools, correction.
Very good point, bro.
He should’ve stuck his nose out , and worried about the United States only . You have Chinese trade and the threat to United States from Wall Street funding communist Chinese
By threat you mean...denying US full spectrum dominance across all sectors without having to fire a single shot for the last 40yrs? Yeah, the chinamen are capable aren't they? 😂
He was the last president to think about actions affecting the world twenty, thirty, fifty years later - not just to the next election cycle.
This is a great, detailed, and lengthy explanation from Mr. Nixon.
Thank you for sharing it - and thank you to the interviewer who, years ago, asked a question and listened to the answer.
If he did, then he was a traitor to the U.S. - not unlikely given his disregard for the law as it applied to him. More likely, he didn’t do the math. His business supporters did. They saw all of that dirt cheap labor and lax environmental concerns.
@@jorgejohnson451 Dumbest thing I’ve read today
The exact opposite. He took america down with this decision.
unfortunately,, he was wrong and caused our current WW3 problems
@@johnnyllooddte3415 He wasn’t wrong at all he was spot on and his policies thawed the Cold War and arguably saved millions of lives. The problem is, geopolitics is a chess game, but they players change. Regardless of how good the board was set up, a new player can still ruin the game, in this case, about 25 years later
I binge watch these and forget to comment!!! GREAT WORK!!!
The world needs this man more than ever ........
He was right, DAMN IT he was right!!!
One of the greatest diplomatic events in world history.
Period
Because great leaders establish diplomatic relations with the global community
I was 12 years old & I thought it was a solo flight to MARS I mean total HEROIC MOVE ! A few days later I was afraid they would poison him & that made the move even more gutsy then Heroic, IT WAS REAL PURE COURAGE. RN, A GREAT PRESIDENT!
And it's kinda crazy how we got off the no gold standard after this trip .
Bc they secured the groundworks for China to align economically with the West and therefore spelled the end for the USSR as they could not keep up economically
Nah. Past actions do have consequences and the guns and butter policies of the previous administrations made the gold standard untenable at that point. Translation: the Vietnam War and freebies to quell dissent of the Vietnam War, a series of events forced the moment JFK was shot, leading to the abandonment of the gold standard, to the .com bubble, 2008 and to today or the Now. Funny how the 'c' in e=mc2 works. Causality and how we cannot escape or rewind it.
People who weren't alive in 1972 don't understand the abject threat the USSR posed to the international world order at the time. Unlike China, the USSR was an expansionist power that sought to cripple the West via proxies ( think contemporary Iran on steroids). The USSR would support authoritarian regimes in the second and third world in the name of "nationalism" or "anti-capitalism." Western Europe lived under constant threat of the Warsaw Pact backed by the Red Army. Mao was nearing the end of his life (passing just 4 years later in 1976) and he too wanted to assure some counterbalance to the often hostile relationship China had with the USSR, compounded by sharing a 2,615 mile border. Yes, the consequences of the China of today could not have been foreseen, but the opening in 1972 greatly reduced the cold war tensions between the US and China while also increasing pressure on the USSR.
China does not want to rule the world, if you look at 5000 years history of China, the problem is, WASP think from their own experience and mentality....so this is actually illusion, they pushed China to the iron thrown.
China has been expansionist throughout its entire history.
I SAID IT LOTS OF TIMES IN MY LIFE, ABOT PRES. - RICHARD NIXON ; = BLESSED ARE THE PEACE MAKERS! AND MODTLIKELY, I WIL - WILL SAY IT MANY MORE TIMES! SO IT SHALLBE SO!! + SALUE & R.I.P. Mr. PRESIDENT!
The road to Moscow runs through China...
It was all about weakening the USSR/Russia. It still is, that's why NATO countries are willing to suffer year after year of growing trade deficits with China.
no it wasnt.. we tried the same thing with russia and it failed too.. comunist tyrannies dont want to be capitalistic democracies @@stavroshadjiyiannis6283
@@stavroshadjiyiannis6283nahhh, it was about finding cheap workers to reduce costs for american companies, increasing earnings. And still is all about it.
@@stavroshadjiyiannis6283next you will say the same thing about india, and then indonesia lmao
@@NeostormXLMAX I THINK INDIA,INDONESIA DOESN'T TRUST USA THAT MUCH SINCE REMEMBER.USA SUPPORTED PAK FROM 1950-2018 UNTIL TRUMP CAME .WHEREAS PAKISTAN WAS TOTALLY CHINESE PUPPET SINCE 1995 AFTER CHINA HELPED THEM IN NUCLEAR PROJECT .IND AND INDONESIA DOESN'T TRUST DEMOCRAT.I HAVE MANY INDIAN FRIENDS THEY ARE SKEPTIC ABOUT USA COMPETING WITH CHINA SINCE 60% OF USA ECONOMY IS DEPENDANT ON CHINA.
"Interests", not ideology ... the president made it clear. However, there was a trigger event that presented the opportunity -- the Zhenbao/Damansky island border war between China and Soviet Union, and the following plan of a nuclear attack on China by the Soviets. The Soviets consulted the idea with the US on potential reactions from the Americans. It was all due to strategic interests. Later, Kissinger mentioned that he didn't know China would become an economic competitor, and a technology competitor to the US.
So true. Had dope Truman supported Chiang and the Nationalists in 46, things would be so different
He had most surely had 2 no
I don't think anyone realized how fast the CCP could do monkey see/monkey do. They went from an economic basket case to power house in 20 years. Helped of course by dopey Americans who wanted profits, and by traitors like bill clinton who gave away all of our major tech secrets. @@JamesDoe-ie1sb
This was very significant to us in Australia as a few weeks earlier in July 1971, Australian Labor Opposition Leader Gough Whitlam had become the first Western leader to visit Red China.
All the usual McCarthyist name calling ensued (we had troops in South Vietnam too, but nowhere near as many as the US, especially in 1971), until Nixon announced his own visit a few weeks later.
The fact that Republican US President Richard Nixon was doing the exact same thing as the Australian Labor leader neutered all attacks on him.
Nixon's visit to China was hugely important to the Asia-Pacific region. It's a shame that this sort of thing didn't happen a lot earlier.
Nixon was definitely playing realpolitik with this move more than any other.
But it meant a lot to us in Australia. You can't have the world's most populous country in your region and simply not engage with them.
Plus, by the time of the 1970s, even when Mao was still alive, China was no longer concerned with exporting Communism (unlike the Soviet Union), as opposed to exporting cheap goods.
I would argue that China is the most capitalist country in the world today, once you view the country as its own company.
sad
SO WHAT
In retrospect, considering who will outpace our economy, was it not a mistake? American corporations needed cheap labor, so let’s compromise integrity.
That all remains to be seen. Who even knows if there isn't some off-the-record understandings between the two powers? There certainly are at least a few factors one could consider hinting at it, like the fact that for a state that's always prioritized economic power and business over all else, the US was willing to gift so much of each to another world power; then consider how China, a power so supposedly insular and paranoid, was willing to let Google design and implement it's famous Social Credit system
@@earlpipe9713 "let Google design and implement it's famous Social Credit system"
?
I'll need your source on that, I'm coming up short.
he prounance 周恩来 Zhou En Lai very perfectly
We should get a video of that time someone almost gave Nixon LSD when they visited the White House
That is a foolish thing to bring up.
These videos should be more popular just to show people the level of professionalism and knowledge presidents used to have compared to candidates today
When is this from?
I think the common interest @4:55 was simply creating the source material for a new opera.
Because he could! Nixon and Ford were the last moderate Republican Presidents in the US. Reagan started the rightward movement of that party which has lost sight of reality.
I know a lot of Americans believe this was a mistake, but from Nixon's viewpoint, it was the best decision of his presidency, because it led to the victory of the cold war. Had America taken the same step with Russia after the fall of the USSR, then China wouldn't not be the major power it is, and Russia wouldn't be resurgent. But America enjoyed playing Imperialism and in this case, two countries didn't back down, and the wall is crumbling.
50 years and look at it now 😅
Thats politics he who once my enemy is now my friend.
Greed became the nail in the coffin . Hard to challenge someone without being greatly hurt economically and financially.
Kissinger recollection is that French President Georges Pompideau while Nixon was running in 1968 that the West had no interest in considering China an enemy.
(Book: Nixon and Kissinger--Dallek)
Quite an acute observation.
US corporations needed cheap labor, China had it. We had technically defaulted the year before, when Nixon took us "temporarily' off of the gold standard. He then went to China to court the cheap labor. Thus began outsourcing.
Funny fake news.
U$ realized the importance of establishing diplomatic ties with the PRC ... due to shared hostility against USSR .
Just right before Neoliberalism started.
This is what capitalism is about - maximum profit. Nothing else to blame is the nature of capitalism.
@@CW-bl1hk ...and in recent decades, the ccp has used capitalism against us and the world.
You say this as if its a bad thing. This action in addition to Deng's reforms led to massive reductions in poverty for the Chinese people.
It was the right decision at the time. That is if you accept the realist theory of International relations
I still get flashbacks seeing hm and kizz walking on the Great Wall in Chyna, side by side, In black and white t.v. as a lil boy, in Harlem, not nearly a tennager, oblivious to what was going on and why they were there.
Hallo, tan solo el pasado es de un brillante documento ya 1963 releemos y hoy no hay mas bandas musicales que simpatisemos, ok shalom
to get some decent general tsao chicken take out
Can Trump write a report or an article that can be published?
...he'd just get someone to do it for him!
The left would never allow it. If some adversary were to come to an airport with thousands as seen here, today's hecklers would never allow it with their jeering.
Such is the sad state pir generation have become.
I doubt if he wanted anything to do with the Chinese. He was looking for a way out of Vietnam and China was their biggest ally. He also said Kennedy should have bombed Cuba during the Bay of Pigs so come to your own conclusions. It was never about his desire to open China. If that’s not obvious enough I don’t know what is.
Nixon the Great!
Corporate Money period
What about all the factories? That part not so brilliant.
he dont realize capitalist has no homeland mind
I have great respect for this man but, anyway you see it with what we're witnessing today, it was perhaps the greatest mistake this country has ever made. With all due respect, to China, before you take manufacturing businesses overseas you make sure your people are taken care first. China has become a superpower today and millions of people there have become millionaires thanks to American investments and transferring of manufacturing businesses there while millions of Americans lost their livelihoods and many have become homeless.
It was the western oligarchs that say what happens and when it happens..
Yes very important
For the Peking Duck?😊
He was upset there was General Tso chicken and he wanted Nixon pork.
Talking and stalking wherever it takes to justified the hidden agenda and to concealed the most important subtle hegemonies to conquer the influence of the world....
More like, Kissinger told him to go.
Yeah fcck that war crime dude
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Mr. Nixon's hamstring? He did not possess that coveted 'D' after his name if so opinion would be simply different and only God knows what would have come from Watergate...
He should not go there, CCP was on the verge of death, he revived it and it still exists today after all the trouble. However he was so proud of the trip.
He reduced chinese poverty immensely with this trip. 800 million chinese were lifted out of poverty over the following 40 years. He SHOULD be proud. Communism thrives on poverty. We could very well see Chinese Communism fall in our lifetimes because of his choice to go there.
@@jaredprather8060 Poverty is still in China. The propagandist CCP hides it
@@jaredprather8060 LOL go back to school, that's not how the economy work lol
I wish he never went to China.
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Glad you waged a successful counter-revolution, Dick, but that doesn't excuse you taking us off the gold standard.
Outside the Bible
Interestingly, he suggests that his reasoning was entirely of common interests between Big Red and the United States without a single mention of the war raging in Vietnam at the very of ‘71 and ‘72 that he wanted to exit - a war that was a proxy war between Big Red and the United States. So, his enormous and admirable intellect cannot be confused with his clear character flaw of simply not stating the obvious and simply not stating the truth. His mention of a ‘secrecy plan’ somewhat flushed his cheeks as it was a Freudian slip about how he operated when he wasn’t sharing his great intellect with us - a character flaw that resulted in ultimately his resignation to avoid his conviction of breaking into the headquarters of his political adversaries in order to win an election that he couldn’t win fairly through democratic means. He is at the same time a brilliant man with no heart and with the character of a common criminal. He has a lot of company in his profession on both sides of isle - he distinguished himself by getting caught.
In foreign policy, moving on an initiative with doubtful outcome, normally do so privately in first stance.
Saudi and Iran met up in Beijing March 2023, it had been privately done, public had known after completion with fruitful outcome.
USA under Reagan had done same, you still remember the person ' Oliver North' ?
First of all Nixon did win that election fairly and by one of the largest landslides in history. Secondly, he’s absolutely right Vietnam was used as leverage to open Sino American relations, as the Chinese and Russians were wat each others throats….the Chinese would agree to draw down support for North Vietnam meanwhile the Russians had to pivot and open more dialogue with the US, this became Detente which lead to not only the Soviet drawback of support to North Vietnam but also to Strategic Arms Limitation Treaties. Nixon saw a bad situation but was able to leverage what he could to change the entire balance of world power in the American favor
Vietnam was actually also chinas enemy since they were on the soviet side in the sino soviet split, while albania supported china
The only reason why china helped vietnam was due to the fact the ho chi min was a personal friend of mao and zhou enlai,
Also ho chi min also begged roosevelt for help as well, but he rather handed the entirety of indochina to the kmt but chiang kai chek declined.
Let's be honest, nobody makes it to this level of the game, without being at least halfway criminal. It's pretty much a necessity to survive while swimming with the sharks
Lmao this decision alone caused American home industry to collapse and somehow people still call this traitor a geopolitical wizard
And now we have so much cheap low quality crap from China. Temu, Alibaba and Shein to be exact
Nixon made China as it is today then. How come the simpsons characteristises him
As a crook? 😂😂
Rather than try to solve his own countries problems
An overseas holiday was in order!
Biggest US foreign policy error ever.
The soviet union would still exist lmao, the usa and china were allies in the cold war, and thats what brought down the soviets.
Next 50 years, you will shun biden for getting close to india i bet, in case china collapses and india becomes the new superpower, india would then become the next regret for foreign policy 😂😂😂😂
@@NeostormXLMAX Yep These are idiots without any Understanding of “Realpolitik” or without any sense of “History” and “Geopolitics”
@@NeostormXLMAXthe USSR went down becaus off the people in the USSR, Not becaus off China or the USA.
You're talking Nonsens.
@@ShabanAjetiseriously lol this guy needs to pick up a history book🤣 china took down the soviet union lmao that’s awesome
@@ShabanAjetii’ve literally never heard anyone ever say china even helped lol let alone actually doing it
Nixon’s biggest mistake. Now we’re reliant on them. Maybe he didn’t directly cause it but he set us on the path.
Yes, I wonder what he would think of the situation the United States finds itself in with China today. We produce very little, and they produce it all. In addition, the South China Sea fiasco would surely ruffle his feathers.
BS! Opening the door to China was crucial at the time and a brilliant move. The exportation to China accelerated in the 90s
Reagan is at fault, not Nixon
@@khabbad I don’t think you read my comment. Because we opened up to them we now owe them a ton of debt and are reliant on them for trade. Also Taiwan doesn’t have any recognition, and we have now a communist seat in the UN Security Council.
@@ash_11117 Lol what do you mean by “we owe them debt”. Do you think the American government has borrowed money from China? I’m really confused by your comment
¿Por qué el tema de la Isla de Taiwán es tan “Importante” para sustentar los intereses geopolíticos de los EU? Mire pa'llí: Los EU tiene casi 800 Bases Militares esparcidas por todo el mundo. De esas 800, los EU tienen 93 Bases frente a China. Pues bien: El Mar de China pertenece a China. Los EU no tienen Derechos Territoriales ni Marítimos en ésta zona de Asia. Ningún Derecho. Ni tampoco tiene Derecho arbitral aquí. Los EU no tienen nada qué hacer en Asia. Los EU acá, están muy lejos de sus límites fronterizos y, sin embargo, ellos, los yanquis, justifican su presencia militar en el Mar de China, porque se argumenta que: “Países soberanos han solicitado su “Asistencia” para garantizar la defensa en caso de una agresión por parte de China”. “¿Agresión por parte de China?”. ¡Pero si es que China no atenta contra nadie! Sabemos que China es una nación de Paz. China no ataca. China no invade a ningún país soberano. China no ROBA ni territorios ni recursos a nadie. China no interfiere en los asuntos internos de ninguna nación. China no es ni Imperialista ni Colonialista. Mucho menos es Expansionista. China, ni siquiera en 1,000 años ha invadido a nadie en el mundo. Nunca. ¡Eso Jamás lo ha hecho! ¿Sabe usted cuántas Bases Militares tiene China fuera de su propio territorio? Ninguna. Cero. ¡Nada! Pues bien. Taiwán es un punto estratégico para subsumir a China. Esta Base Militar dentro de Taiwán le ha costado a los Estados Unidos QUINCE BILLONES de dólares y no se retirarán de ahí, mientras China sea una nación soberana e independiente. La quieren sometida. A los EU no les interesa Taiwán. Tampoco les importa un rábano el pueblo de Taiwán. A los EU sólo les interesa su Base y con ella, la justificación de su Presencia Militar en Asia. De hecho, la guerra contra Vietnam se trató precisamente de eso mismo: De Instalar una Base Militar en la frontera sur de China. Así que Taiwán es “SU BASE”. Taiwán es su “Portaviones Inhundible frente a China” y, si acaso Taiwán fuese un país soberano, pues qué mejor para los EU, porque entonces de este modo, su presencia militar sería “casi Legítima y casi Justificada”. ¿Quedó claro el punto? Sin Taiwán y sin sus Bases Militares en la zona sur de la Península de Corea, los Estados Unidos no tendrían Justificación para estar presentes en toda Asia. Por lo demás, China no Invadirá a Taiwán porque, una nación NO se Auto-Invade. La Isla de Taiwán es un territorio que le pertenece a China. Taiwán NO es un país soberano, es una Base Militar de Estados Unidos. Por lo tanto y en todo caso, ¡China Reunifica la Isla! Y no la Invade. Finalmente, mire acá: De los 197 países que existen en el mundo, sólo 12 países reconocen a Taiwán como nación. De entre éstas naciones que NO reconocen a Taiwán, están los propios Estados Unidos. Y… En realidad NO son 12 países quienes actualmente reconocen a la Isla de Taiwán como nación soberana e independiente. Son solamente 7. El Vaticano, NO es un país. Y por lo demás, aquellos 7 “países” que sí reconocen a Taiwán, de hecho, también son Bases Militares de los Estados Unidos: Saint Lucia, Palau, Marshall Islands, Nauru (con 16 mil habitantes), y las diminutas Islas de Tuvalu que, en realidad, son 4 arrecifes de coral y 5 atolones que en su conjunto suman 28 kilómetros cuadrados. O sea, ni la mitad de lo que mide la Isla de Manhattan. Toda la población de Tuvalu cabe siete veces dentro del Yankee Stadium de New York. Y por cierto, Marshall Islands es un “país” famoso por ser el centro de pruebas nucleares de los Estados Unidos (Pacific Proving Ground), con 105 ensayos nucleares ostensibles y publicitados. ¡Vaya países! Además, Guatemala ya anunció que dejará de reconocer a Taiwán antes de Julio del 2024, del mismo modo que Nicaragua y Honduras ya tomaron esta misma decisión en el 2023. (Tal parece que muy pronto, sólo Disneylandia reconocerá a Taiwán).
A terrible mistake
Gobblygook, but I hoped I’d hear him say one thing…Forest Gump was on the US ping pong team.
Was it so china could sell us products?
young nixon is so fucking funny omg.
I wonder if hs knowledge/experiences in/of the Far East offer anybearing 2 the A bombs, lil boy, drops in Japan?