Yeah, it all fits perfectly now 😁 As for your question, we highly doubt that Mike knew where Donald Love was since he was absent from Liberty City almost at the end of GTA Liberty City Stories 😉
@@aastik99 gta liberty city stories takes place before gta advance so no Donald love was in liberty city when mike was there but I think mike didn’t meet him becuz last mission for Donald love has him flying from liberty city
Finally, a video that answered the question of Donald Love. I watched many GTA videos but none could explain his disappearance. It's really a great video. I hope this video gets the million views it deserves.
Haha yeah, it took us a while to figure it out, but we can finally put this mystery to rest 🙂 Personally, we are also hoping that the video will reach more people as it's very useful in terms of lore analysis, so yeah 😃
@@lucutes2936 the matter of fact, that's not important. Donald got what he wanted and had no reason to use Claude anymore. Listening to the radio stations, he might still be in Liberty City, just doing his own business.
@gaminginvestigators As an East Asian, I am sure that the empty package was inspired by the story of the empty lunch package from the Three Kingdoms story. Appearance is also a typical form. The story of the empty package begins with Soon-wook, his most competent servant, opposing when JoJo attempts to ascend the throne. Afterwards, Sun-wook confirmed that there was no food in the package, although JoJo sent it to him. After realizing that this means, "You are useless now," Sun-wook commits suicide from addiction. It is a very popular story in East Asia. So, an empty package sometimes carries the meaning of "You are useless now."
Considering Donald is the one who ordered Claude to kill Kenji, I've noticed how different the two are. In Smack Down, Kenji berates Claude for "failing" to end the Yardie/Cartel alliance, even though Claude did what he was told and has no control over what the Yardies and Cartel do afterwards. Kenji is overall bad-tempered and impatient. Love, on the otherhand, is always calm and looks for pivots when things don't go according to plan. Even after finding out the packages from A Drop in the Ocean were decoys, he doesn't blame Claude and isn't afraid to admit shit happens at times.
That’s cause of the whole japanese stigma of shame to your family especially if you’re Gokudō, something which is bullshit in world of business even japanese.
Yeah and one thing most players overlook would be that Kenji was a racist towards Claude by calling him a Gaijin(A derogatory word used to adress non-japanese) and expecting dissappointment from him at first.
In my playthrough of GTA III, I played the mission "Ransom" (The one where you find Miguel and Asuka dead and a note from Catalina saying she kidnapped Maria) right before "Love's Disappearance" so in my head-canon, Claude was visiting Love to ask for his help rescuing Maria. It kinda adds to the climactic feel of those last few missions.
I think based on all the stuff in this video about the keji and Yakuza involvement that when they switched the characters to Donald Love they didn't have a way to close his story line considering he wasn't supposed to be a character anyway so they just left it after the escort mission
So guys name was 'Toshiro' ; Interesting. Ya he does feature a significant role without explanation; Sounds like the 'Bet On A Fight' Mission may have been dropped for technical reasons, who knows what it took to implement additional mechanics;
Finally, a video on this matter! Thank you so much for your take on his disappearance. Such great effort put into the research behind it! The importance of the Old Oriental Gentleman in the story was also surprising!
We are happy that we solved this mystery as well ☺️ It was bugging people's minds for a long time now and we can finally put it to rest 😃 Thank you so much for your kind words and support 🙂
That finally solved the Old Oriental Gentleman's role. I believe this, considering the ties to the counterfeiting plates mini-plot in Vice City and the fact that Vice City was supposed to be a DLC tie in to GTA 3
Yeah, this statement about GTA Vice City was going to be a DLC at some point could actually be another piece of support regarding the theory that he escaped to Vice City 🙂
@@gaminginvestigators So, both Ray Machowaski and Donald Love escaped. These plates and Ray's Miami travel indicated on Rockstar's next game which is based on Miami. We got it as Gta Vice City. Although, Gta vice city was originally planned to be a DLC for Gta 3. But good thing they decided to make it it's own game. Otherwise, we never would've gotten a badass character like Tommy Vercetti.
That's an unproven claim that VC. Was supposed to be a DLC, also VC is set in 1986, 15 years before GTA 3 in 2001, DLCs like TBOGT AND TLAD in GTA 4 are set in the same year 2008.
@@nawazeeshali4340 it is pretty much confirmed by a dutch magazine and a leslie benzies interview. And the time setting of the game is irrelevant. In fact the earlier GTAs had dlcs which date to the 60s
Thank you Gaming Investigators for this video and you answered one of the most mysteries in GTA series. Also thanks to the Holy Grail. It all makes sense now. I think Love escapes at the end. He learned his lesson from GTA LCS events when the whole Liberty City knew his dirty works during his mayoral campaign which leads to his downfall. He risks it all just to win the campaign, he didn't think correctly or strategize other ways to win the campaign while doing it under the shadows. But here in GTA 3, he play his cards well. He didn't want to stay in Liberty City longer when he already got and verified the plates because of the possibilities that the LCPD or other journalists may found out his dirty activities again. He escaped with no trace.
It's our pleasure 🙂 As for the question of what happened with Donald Love, we personally would also pick the second option 😁 And you've got a really good point there. Donald Love somewhat learned his lesson in terms of doing shady things in Liberty City. And gotta admit, it's a bit surprising that the police didn't decide to bring Donald Love in, especially considering what he had done 3 years ago. But oh well, looks like he got a clean slate 😅
Brilliant analysis. I still want to believe my theory that the boxes were actually body parts of different famous or high up people in the world of GTA that love “acquired” and the oriental a gentleman was just a chef who specialises in cooking human meat and Love wanted the most rich and authentic and lavish dinner yet 😂
Tbh it's always been a mystery to me since Grand Theft Auto III’s release in 2001 but reflecting on all the stories that take place between 1986 and 2001that directly involve Don Love even minor events in the 3D Universe of the Grand Theft Auto series I think he may have left Liberty City heading back toward Vice City but a more modern one reflecting the year 2001
Honestly they’ll probably make Jock Cranley President since weirdly enough, his Governor run in GTA V ended up directly mirroring the 2016 election with Sue Murray being a 1 to 1 stand in for Hillary and him being a former media personality turned politician.
Donald Love is one of my favorite GTA characters. Such an interesting character. Also great explanation on what was in the package and his disappearance.
We love this character as well! He really stands out from other characters when looking at his personality. And of course, the amount of shady things he had done makes him a really unique kind of criminal in this franchise 😁
Gosh, I love this channel. I can hardly remember the last time I had gaming controller in my hands...but just watching these videos brings back all these amazing memories and especially to understand the story lines after 20 years.
Hello there Alkasushi! 🙂 Happy to see you here, we are glad that you enjoyed this video bro 🤘 Frankly speaking, we probably don't have favourite side character from the 3D universe though 😅
With all the Lore of GTA 3 and Manhunt 1, maybe we can have a conclusion about what happened with Donald Love. The theory that matches with all, is that he went to Carcer City (It is in north from Liberty City) with all the money and packages collected in GTA 3. Then he created Valiant Video Enterprises with a perfil called "Mr. Nasty", he colaborated with Starkweather suportting financially the snuff films that he creatded, like Manhunt (It is possible because he has fetishes with eating humans, has a "Party with death bodies", was a bloodthirsty, and most important, Donald Love has power and money to do that sick think. In the Lore of Manhunt 1, it is explained that Valiant Video Enterprieses distributed Snuff films to Japan (That matches with the close relationship with Donald Love and Toshiro in GTA 3), so i think that´s the most probably think that happended to him
Woah, looks like we have another Manhunt enthusiast here 🙂 We gotta admit that you provided quite an interesting theory regarding the disappearance of Donald Love 😉 Unfortunately, we are not sure whether this is what happened. We would likely have to check Manhunt in order to find out :/
That probably wouldn't be true as police chief Gary Shaffer was mentioned in the radio as being cleared of corruption charges by the courts, I'm pretty sure they was referencing the events of manhunt as Gary Shaffer (chief of the CCPD) was taking bribes from Starkweather to capture Cash, this means that GTA 3 takes place after the events of manhunt
Everything seems to add up. It seems that Rockstar chose Donald in favour of expanding his story eventually. The Manual Guide is very interesting, watched it years back. I really wonder though why would Donald seek to make counterfeit money though. It might be as a way to get himself infinite wealth. Here is how I see it - Donald sought infinite wealth, and knew that the Yakuza are in the market for the forging trade. The Yakuza are still likely involved in counterfeit money, given their casino and wealth and the sphere of influence they’ve had under Kazuki. Donald saw the Yakuza as the lesser gang in organised crime, and sought to undermine them. Kenji was likely to be ownership of the plates, so Donald had him killed. He had his own agenda and didn’t trust Claude fully until he retrieved the package. By killing Kenji he’d kill two birds with one stone - he’d potentially appease the Cartel, and be able to retrieve the plates without Yakuza intervention. Asuka probably figured that the Cartel killed Kenji for the plates, and didn’t pay any attention to the package because she was blinded by revenge. It’s possible that with her connections to the LCPD, she was able to discover Love’s role in the Yakuza’s decline and took revenge. Either that or Donald chose to leave because of his lack of real experience in criminal work on his own, fearing for his life.
Wassup, Just! Good to see you again 😉 Yeah, we are really thankful for Brady Games strategy guides and the Holy Grail of GTA 3 cause it would be impossible to find out the truth without those priceless sources 🙂 As for the reason Donald Love decided to counterfeit money... it's really hard to determine this. It could be for the sake of being even richer, perhaps doing some shady stuff and trying to get additional funds? It makes sense considering that he is a cannibal. 😅 Now in terms of both stories, we wouldn't try to connect them as they are similar, but in the end different really. In one of them, we've got Yakuza trying to make counterfeit bills which is actually a case known from the real world. And on the other hand, we've got a multi-billionaire who wants to taste everything that seems like a forbidden fruit just because he has the money and influence to indulge in it. (Ray Machowski's quote here 😄 ) Still, nice try with attempting to connect these nonetheless 😉
The LCPD would never find out Donald used Claude to kill her brother Kenji. She was still blinded in rage. She didn't even find out that the man she is giving money to is the killer of her brother. Asuka was still on the construction site torturing Miguel to reveal his criminal business and all tricks to become rich.
Asuka was murdered within days of discovering her brother's death. She was in the construction site the entire time. She had no time to do any investigation. The only connection she had to LCPD was one corrupt cop which was Ray and he already skipped town by that point presumably. And his usefulness was spent by that point even if you hadn't helped him escape yet.
My theory is that Donald Love disappeared and re-emerged as Mr Nasty from Manhunt who produced snuff films along with the director Starkweather. The events of Manhunt do take place after the events of GTA 3 as stated in the Manhunt Wiki, so it could be possible that Donald went into hiding under the alias of Mr Nasty. Both are sadistic too
@GardG4m3r, who says Donald wasn't funding him by then? He was still well-known as a businessman by Liberty City Stories and a mayoral candidate that no one aside from the Forelli's had a problem with.
Loved the video, it goes in great detail about Donald Love! One popular theory is that Donald Love is Mr. Nasty from Manhunt1, though same mystery is for Mr. Nasty: no one really knows what what happened to him
@@skarr88 honestly I think so too, it kind of makes sense to me, if Mr. Nasty is not Donald Love, then I'd imagine that they two would have some sort of connection.
@@ekkiegill1439 Exactly, think why Police Chief from Carcer City Gary Schaffer was acquitted of corruption charges? Donald Love helped him get rid of those charges in exchange for Schaffer hiding him in Carcer City, in addition to the fact that Love would know that Starkweather bribed Schaffer in exchange for Schaffer letting him record his snuff films in specific places in Carcer City that Schaffer allowed Starweather, then Love found his paradise of making money and satisfying his fetishes under the pseudonym Mr. Nasty and starting the business of Valiant Video Enterprises with Starweather as his right hand and at the same time selling the snuff material to very select people. and to the Japanese market (you can find that information in the Manhunt Wiki about the Valiant company). That is my theory very briefly, I don't know what you think of it brother.
@@ekkiegill1439 I briefly summarize the theory. Donald Love knew that he was ruining his political image a lot and having a lot of problems with the mafia so he thought... I'll escape Liberty City, but where to? Then he would somehow know about the corruption cases of Carcer City Police Chief Gary Schaffer from the neighboring city. Love would contact Schaffer and ask him a favor; Love pays money to have Schaffer acquitted of corruption charges in exchange for Schaffer providing a safe house for Love to hide in for a while. That's when we heard on Lips 106 radio that Schaffer had been acquitted of corruption charges, what a coincidence. Schaffer accepts the deal and Love then leaves Liberty City and travels to Carcer City, staying at the safe house. There he meets Schaffer in person and they talk, at some point Love, being as charismatic as he is, would tell Schaffer everything he had done in Liberty City and Schaffer would tell him what he had done in Carcer City, Love discovers in that conversation from Schaffer on the bribes he receives from Lionel Starkweather in exchange for filming snuff films in specific locations in Carcer City, voila! Love, upon learning about this fascinating world in which he could continue satisfying his fetishes and earn a lot of money, does business with Lionel Starkweather, thus creating Valiant Video Enterprises with Starkweather as his right-hand man and being its director and Love under the pseudonym Mr. Nasty. If I could, I would write my entire theory from Vice City to Manhunt 2 and ending with GTA 4, but it would be too long to write it here, so I have summarized my theory just to relate Donal Love to Mr. Nasty. What do you think about my theory brother?
I always thought it had to do with Ned Burner dying in the LCS. in the stop the press mission there is a similar box on the table....i always think that someone found the box and sent it to donald.
Huh, that's quite interesting 🤔 There is a similar box in the garage during the aforementioned mission indeed... Well, bearing in mind that we are dealing with a journalist and we are in the garage outside of the newspaper company, there might be a possibility that the box we see could contain plates 🙂 However, there is one thing that will kill this theory - the fact that Donald Love was importing the packages, they were not in his possession until Claude delivered them in the "Grand Theft Aero" mission. Overall, it is quite sus that we have a similar box in GTA LCS, but we presume that Rockstar North simply reused this asset from GTA 3 and there's no hidden meaning behind this box :/ Even Donald Love doesn't mention this box or order Toni to get them. But still, really cool theory 😉
My theories about Donal Love's sudden disappearance: 1-Donald love was an intelligent man. Knowing that Claude had betrayed his employers, he ran away to avoid being killed by Claude when he had done enough work. 2: In some missions, the cartel learns that the Claude-Eastern gentleman-Donald Love trio is in a relationship, and Donald Love is kidnapped and who knows, maybe killed by the cartel. 3: In 1998, together with Toni Cipriani, he was captured by Tommy and kidnapped to Vice City for killing Avery Carrington, an old friend of Tommy Vercetti. Tommy may kidnap Donald to revenge his old friend Avery. 4:He disappeared to continue his disgusting fantasies and was seen on manhunt under the identity of MR.NASTY. (Manhunt and GTA take place in the same universe). Donald was already a cannibal, psychotic and a man with disgusting fantasies. The Mr.nasty theory works.
The cutting room really broke this game's story. I never even realized Love's oriental friend was the guy that gets busted out of the prison van at the beginning, because he's such a minor character and it's just not important in the final game. Yet the game was supposed to hinge on him. Cutting the Yakuza boss in favor of a weak Trump parody that went nowhere seems like a bad choice in retrospect.
Yeah, we also think that the previous concept of the whole thread was far better and more logical. And just thinking about those cut missions, it really breaks our hearts 😦
If you are interested in the aliens or The Truth's conspiracy theories, we actually made videos about both of these topics some time ago 🙂 Aliens can be found here -> ruclips.net/video/1v72CwdATZ8/видео.html and The Truth's conspiracy theories are over there -> ruclips.net/video/shhadIqwCfQ/видео.html 🤘
I read a long time ago that the makers of gta 3 were going to have claude turn on DL in his last mission, flying a plane into DL’s office, killing him….unfortunately a month before the release of the game, September 11th happened so they had to be quick and eliminate the mission.
Great analysis! A suggestion for a future video: How about covering other GTA-style games like Mafia? A interesting topic would be Henry's death from Mafia 2. Was he really a rat or not? The game does leave some clues as far as I remember.
Thanks, man! Speaking of your suggestion, we are definitely going to make lore videos about other video games in the future 🙂 For now, we would like to focus on the franchise that we have more experience with and provide great quality for you 😅
I have never seen GTA 3 so fluid like that. ( To be fair I've only played the OG PC and PS2 versions, and the remaster on switch is not this fluid either)
A lot of the things you can see in a BradyGames strategy guide aren't final, since the people get to play the game a lot earlier before release. So, this whole plates angle was probably scrapped. Not even in the final game
I always figured they absconded, now that I think about it, probably to escape any potential wrath of the Yakuza for seeing to Kenji's assassination, should they have ever found or worked it out! Asuka's not a nice lady to cross! Yakuza don't tend to be! Pissing off gangsters has a tendency to be hazardous to your health for some bizarre reason, can't think why... Looking at it here, though, it would make sense if he set sail, another nice throwback to the events of Vice City, it's clear he's taken some inspiration from what transpired there all those years ago, what with aforementioned assassination 'n'all!
Luis Lopez ran Tony’s Maisonette 9. Being a subtitle club owner for a while. Then went to college like his mother wanted him to go to. Did it. And used his management degree to appear more educated. And more recommended.
Could be both they both were trying to leave, cleaned the places out, and probably got caught and killed by the Columbians. Or they could have just gotten away, so one of those could be it.
When will you shift to manhunt and Max Payne alongside gta. I know you'll be saying that i am being too much selfish but it's just i can't control the content we'll get. But please keep posting more. Even if you post gta content, i love that you still post. I have strong feeling that one day this channel will boom to 10 million subs and it'll be the only place for gta fans
Hi there! 😃 Well, unfortunately, it's really hard to tell you when we are going to include more video games in our content :/ It's not because we don't like them or something, but we would like to discuss video games that we are kinda experts in and you can rely on what is presented in the episode. Our priority is to give our audience verified, justified, and factual content 🙂 The only thing we can assure you of is that we will expand to more than GTA at some point 😅 By the way, thank you for your constant support, we really appreciate that 🔥
@@gaminginvestigators Well the line that " we will give audience verified and factual content" really assures me that in whatever content you'll go, you'll boom
It's not the original game, the footage is a reversed version of the game (search for re3 of GTA 3 and Vice City) which allows to edit the code of the game and put new mechanics. GTA 3 have an early basic gameplay; there's a ton of content that the prequels pulled better than gta 3.
You could do an investigation about gta 4 the lost and damned about Ray boccino and Johnny klebitz relationships and how it ended with ray's betrayal after Johnny escapes in "collector's item"
That sounds like quite an ambitious thing to cover, ngl. We won't be able to discuss this issue now, but there is a high chance we will in the future, so stay tuned 🤘
III was able to make a relatively difficult mystery just by leaving out small details and I think that we only have about 75% of the Donald Love from all his appearances in GTA games
I have a theory that love and O. Gentleman was ambushed by the police or the Columbians, which was the box seemed haphazardly placed, but in fact, it was due to some kind of rush that love took the stuff away and hid in his Shoreside Vale apartment like he did in GTA LCS, and probably is seeking help, and maybe, like you said the Columbians got O. Gentleman or he was arrested, and Love might be seeking help from Cipriani
I believe and everyone agrees he’s mr.nasty in manhunt series. Yes definitely hiding somewhere but he is the dark businessman mr nasty who makes snuff films
Awesome video oh what i see the intro the Mafia 1 original from 2002 still the goat and yes i was about to ask why Donald Love hiding in those pacakeges what was documents money ?
@@gaminginvestigators when you have time will you make a video about mafia 1 from 2002 the original about what developers if they put lots of secrets or scripts in the game and if some secrets are there why the removed when they launch the game in 2002 ?
The fact that Rockstar kinda was onto something when Donald Love was climbing the politician ladder and his character is based of Donald Trump and Trump became a president is pretty shocking.
Wait, in the story. The Yakuza came to rescue their Japanese gentlemen. But in the final game, the Columbian Cartel ambush and take the gentlemen as hostage for their plans. I have a theory that the Japanese gentlemen might be that dude Tommy punched in the face and stole the plates for his factory.
Thanks for letting us know about your theory 🤘 However, there is one slight problem with it - Tommy was stealing information about the plates from the Triads, not the Yakuza. These two organizations are not the same 😉
@@gaminginvestigators The Triad Tommy beat up might be Ran Fa Li , the older Triad that Woozy was helping in San Andreas , Tommy hit him so hard that he could only grunt . Idk just a theory .
Yeah... when you think about it 🤔 But still, looks like they didn't want to reference this topic :/ Instead, Rockstar North managed to give us some insight about the morgue parties Donald Love held 😈
We actually have some idea of what happened to Donald Love. Rockstar in 2009 was asked and they answered "No one is quite sure what happened to Donald Love. He certainly crossed a few boundaries and was trying to find a way back to normality. Whether or not he managed this, and what happened to the elderly Asian gentleman are matters we cannot speculate on." So you could infer that by the end of his time in GTA 3, Donald had a realization of what a horrible scumbag he was and maybe left Liberty City to repent and redeem himself? It's possible I suppose.
My theory is he escaped via his boat he's probably back in Vice City a place he knows well plus you forgot about the paperwork he had Toni kill Avery for plus his "pull" with the Leones probably paid them protection from the columbians while he escaped if I'm not mistaken he is mentioned in GTA V
So you think that the second possibility is more likely to happen, huh? Actually, it's not a bad lead when you mention Vice City since as you said, Donald Love was there before. Speaking of "paperwork", we don't know how this murder of Avery Carrington got anything to do with his escape though 😅 Another case is the Leones getting paid for the protection - this doesn't seem too justified, at least from our perspective. And finally, we personally don't know whether Love was mentioned in GTA 5. Even if he was, we are only talking about a plain reference, nothing else 😃
I love FF14, couldn't get into GW2 mainly because of the weird class system upgrade they have, you start as a class and level up until a certain level and from there you have to upgrade to one of the versions from an expansion in order to be more powerful, since the base class isn't that great at max level. So I have the problem where I love the gameplay of the base class but hate every single evolution for that class, it doesn't feel like the class I've played and is weird! Then I have the problem of loving the evolution of a class but hate the base class that I have to play in order to reach that point...
Love definitely got away. Will we see him again? Maybe in GTA6, but only if the new writers are self-aware and aware of the deeplore of the classic storyline. I would bet we never hear another thing about Love.
Well, even though we highly doubt that Donald Love will appear in GTA 6, Rockstar North can still give a lot of references to this character in the game 😉
@@scarface3738 exactly, anyways... somehow some 3D universe characters do exist in the HD universe, we can consider that some 3D universe stuff is some sort of movie/tv series/ book. The posters, the book with love's 3D universe photo in it. Og Loc is referenced in GTA if I’m not mistaken, Dogg too in a poster (like claude in VC) some known gangs exist BUT this can be some sort of 'Flashpoint' thing, if a butterfly moves his wings it can create a tornado across the world but it she didn’t move her wings maybe it caused that someone discovered the cure for any disease, the flashpoint plays with this at another level. it can be some sort of pulp fiction is real and kill bill is a movie in pulp fiction. If we continue with the thing that makes "sense" maybe the 3D world is fictional based on real life (HD), or with the flashpoint thing... well the 3D universe exists in its own timeline but the HD universe created a new one where Love wasn’t a criminal, he was known bc of his work/job at media/TV (love is famous in the HD universe)
Although I haven't played GTA3 since it was new, and therefore my recollection is incomplete, but at the time I assumed the "mystery box" which is left behind was a Hellraiser refernce. Love had desired the box, went to a lot of trouble to obtain it. Succeeded in opening the box and was abducted into hell. I had assumed it was left so vague to avoid infringing copyright.
Well, What is bothering me The Most is that CLAUDE DOES NOT HAVE A VOICE and That has to Change How do we know what he was thinking when He was going to do one Last Mission for Donald Love? We don't know what Claude was thinking and I want to say to Rockstar Games, GIVE CLAUDE A VOICE BECAUSE HE AT LEAST DESERVES THAT!!!!
This theory really makes sense now, and I wonder if Mike (protagonist from from GTA Advance) would know about the Donald Love location.
Donald love was not in Liberty city when Mike was there
Yeah, it all fits perfectly now 😁 As for your question, we highly doubt that Mike knew where Donald Love was since he was absent from Liberty City almost at the end of GTA Liberty City Stories 😉
I never played Advance but I heard it contradicts GTA 3.
@@aastik99 gta liberty city stories takes place before gta advance so no Donald love was in liberty city when mike was there but I think mike didn’t meet him becuz last mission for Donald love has him flying from liberty city
@@gaminginvestigators Advance is 2 years after Lcs.
Donald Love in 2008 (GTAIV era) was wanted for Tax Evasion. He’s still very much so alive.
GTA IV era is not part of the 3D's canon.
@@otavianiluciano7397 He still made an appearance in an Easter egg
@@Shiroishi_Hajime , and so what? It's just a way of the creators to pay homage to the 3D Era.
That’s not cannon though, Easter egg or not.
@@otavianiluciano7397is that so? Explain Lazlow then, who appears in GTA 3 and then GTA 5
Finally, a video that answered the question of Donald Love. I watched many GTA videos but none could explain his disappearance.
It's really a great video. I hope this video gets the million views it deserves.
Haha yeah, it took us a while to figure it out, but we can finally put this mystery to rest 🙂 Personally, we are also hoping that the video will reach more people as it's very useful in terms of lore analysis, so yeah 😃
It still didn't say how he disappeared
@@lucutes2936 the matter of fact, that's not important. Donald got what he wanted and had no reason to use Claude anymore. Listening to the radio stations, he might still be in Liberty City, just doing his own business.
@gaminginvestigators
As an East Asian, I am sure that the empty package was inspired by the story of the empty lunch package from the Three Kingdoms story. Appearance is also a typical form. The story of the empty package begins with Soon-wook, his most competent servant, opposing when JoJo attempts to ascend the throne. Afterwards, Sun-wook confirmed that there was no food in the package, although JoJo sent it to him. After realizing that this means, "You are useless now," Sun-wook commits suicide from addiction. It is a very popular story in East Asia. So, an empty package sometimes carries the meaning of "You are useless now."
Considering Donald is the one who ordered Claude to kill Kenji, I've noticed how different the two are. In Smack Down, Kenji berates Claude for "failing" to end the Yardie/Cartel alliance, even though Claude did what he was told and has no control over what the Yardies and Cartel do afterwards. Kenji is overall bad-tempered and impatient.
Love, on the otherhand, is always calm and looks for pivots when things don't go according to plan. Even after finding out the packages from A Drop in the Ocean were decoys, he doesn't blame Claude and isn't afraid to admit shit happens at times.
Amazing response, didn't even think about it that way
The decoys where ordered by love, it wasn't unplanned.
Shame he uh, like to eat his own
That’s cause of the whole japanese stigma of shame to your family especially if you’re Gokudō, something which is bullshit in world of business even japanese.
Yeah and one thing most players overlook would be that Kenji was a racist towards Claude by calling him a Gaijin(A derogatory word used to adress non-japanese) and expecting dissappointment from him at first.
In my playthrough of GTA III, I played the mission "Ransom" (The one where you find Miguel and Asuka dead and a note from Catalina saying she kidnapped Maria) right before "Love's Disappearance" so in my head-canon, Claude was visiting Love to ask for his help rescuing Maria. It kinda adds to the climactic feel of those last few missions.
I think Donald love ran away because of claude and this mission because the gangs will finish him for that plane
How would he ask for help? Sign language?
That's a cool idea!
I think based on all the stuff in this video about the keji and Yakuza involvement that when they switched the characters to Donald Love they didn't have a way to close his story line considering he wasn't supposed to be a character anyway so they just left it after the escort mission
Yeah, that's probably the reason why the whole thread ended in a rather awkward way 🤔
So guys name was 'Toshiro' ; Interesting. Ya he does feature a significant role without explanation; Sounds like the 'Bet On A Fight' Mission may have been dropped for technical reasons, who knows what it took to implement additional mechanics;
Finally, a video on this matter!
Thank you so much for your take on his disappearance. Such great effort put into the research behind it! The importance of the Old Oriental Gentleman in the story was also surprising!
We are happy that we solved this mystery as well ☺️ It was bugging people's minds for a long time now and we can finally put it to rest 😃 Thank you so much for your kind words and support 🙂
That finally solved the Old Oriental Gentleman's role. I believe this, considering the ties to the counterfeiting plates mini-plot in Vice City and the fact that Vice City was supposed to be a DLC tie in to GTA 3
Yeah, this statement about GTA Vice City was going to be a DLC at some point could actually be another piece of support regarding the theory that he escaped to Vice City 🙂
@@gaminginvestigators So, both Ray Machowaski and Donald Love escaped. These plates and Ray's Miami travel indicated on Rockstar's next game which is based on Miami. We got it as Gta Vice City. Although, Gta vice city was originally planned to be a DLC for Gta 3. But good thing they decided to make it it's own game. Otherwise, we never would've gotten a badass character like Tommy Vercetti.
That's an unproven claim that VC. Was supposed to be a DLC, also VC is set in 1986, 15 years before GTA 3 in 2001, DLCs like TBOGT AND TLAD in GTA 4 are set in the same year 2008.
@@nawazeeshali4340 it is pretty much confirmed by a dutch magazine and a leslie benzies interview. And the time setting of the game is irrelevant. In fact the earlier GTAs had dlcs which date to the 60s
@@TheTriangle444 ah ok, yeah forgot GTA 1 was in 1997 and London expansions were set in the 60s, never played them tho, started with GTA 3 in 2001.
Thank you Gaming Investigators for this video and you answered one of the most mysteries in GTA series. Also thanks to the Holy Grail. It all makes sense now. I think Love escapes at the end. He learned his lesson from GTA LCS events when the whole Liberty City knew his dirty works during his mayoral campaign which leads to his downfall. He risks it all just to win the campaign, he didn't think correctly or strategize other ways to win the campaign while doing it under the shadows. But here in GTA 3, he play his cards well. He didn't want to stay in Liberty City longer when he already got and verified the plates because of the possibilities that the LCPD or other journalists may found out his dirty activities again. He escaped with no trace.
It's our pleasure 🙂 As for the question of what happened with Donald Love, we personally would also pick the second option 😁 And you've got a really good point there. Donald Love somewhat learned his lesson in terms of doing shady things in Liberty City. And gotta admit, it's a bit surprising that the police didn't decide to bring Donald Love in, especially considering what he had done 3 years ago. But oh well, looks like he got a clean slate 😅
Brilliant analysis. I still want to believe my theory that the boxes were actually body parts of different famous or high up people in the world of GTA that love “acquired” and the oriental a gentleman was just a chef who specialises in cooking human meat and Love wanted the most rich and authentic and lavish dinner yet 😂
Tbh it's always been a mystery to me since Grand Theft Auto III’s release in 2001 but reflecting on all the stories that take place between 1986 and 2001that directly involve Don Love even minor events in the 3D Universe of the Grand Theft Auto series I think he may have left Liberty City heading back toward Vice City but a more modern one reflecting the year 2001
Yeah, we think that Vice City could be the destination when it comes to where Donald Love was trying to escape 😁
I think he became the President of the United States in his later years.
HELL YES
Yeah he did appear in a newspaper in gta 4
Hopefully in GTA 6.
@@retrojoe8434MAN DONT SUPPORT RON DESANTIS THAT GUYS MEAN SUPPORT TRUMP
Honestly they’ll probably make Jock Cranley President since weirdly enough, his Governor run in GTA V ended up directly mirroring the 2016 election with Sue Murray being a 1 to 1 stand in for Hillary and him being a former media personality turned politician.
Donald Love is one of my favorite GTA characters. Such an interesting character. Also great explanation on what was in the package and his disappearance.
We love this character as well! He really stands out from other characters when looking at his personality. And of course, the amount of shady things he had done makes him a really unique kind of criminal in this franchise 😁
in gta 4 if you look at the newspapers found around the city it says "LOVE'S HATE RELATIONSHIP WITH TAXES"
So he became poor again
@@GreenEagle-p7zwhy
I always liked to believe that there was some kind of mystical artifact in the box but this theory makes more sense lol.
Good lore solving at its finest I’ve wondered this for literally 22 years since i first beat it
Keep up the great job Gaming Investigators!! Thanks for the vids
We gotta admit that we had quite a lot of fun while making this episode, so great that you enjoyed it, Jayden 😎
He created a gang war , with profits, yeah he left😂
Gosh, I love this channel. I can hardly remember the last time I had gaming controller in my hands...but just watching these videos brings back all these amazing memories and especially to understand the story lines after 20 years.
Donald Love is one of my favourite side character in the 3d universe ! Especially in LCS. Great job 🙌
I love that guy from GTA III because his name reminds me of my Rival Donald Trump
@@FR4NKL1NCODMWII So you're the reason of his disappearance!
@@alkasushi nah he's probably escaped Liberty City(NYC) after his assets got severely damaged in September 11,2001
Hello there Alkasushi! 🙂 Happy to see you here, we are glad that you enjoyed this video bro 🤘 Frankly speaking, we probably don't have favourite side character from the 3D universe though 😅
@@alkasushi
You know he's a cannibal right? 😕
With all the Lore of GTA 3 and Manhunt 1, maybe we can have a conclusion about what happened with Donald Love. The theory that matches with all, is that he went to Carcer City (It is in north from Liberty City) with all the money and packages collected in GTA 3. Then he created Valiant Video Enterprises with a perfil called "Mr. Nasty", he colaborated with Starkweather suportting financially the snuff films that he creatded, like Manhunt (It is possible because he has fetishes with eating humans, has a "Party with death bodies", was a bloodthirsty, and most important, Donald Love has power and money to do that sick think. In the Lore of Manhunt 1, it is explained that Valiant Video Enterprieses distributed Snuff films to Japan (That matches with the close relationship with Donald Love and Toshiro in GTA 3), so i think that´s the most probably think that happended to him
Woah, looks like we have another Manhunt enthusiast here 🙂 We gotta admit that you provided quite an interesting theory regarding the disappearance of Donald Love 😉 Unfortunately, we are not sure whether this is what happened. We would likely have to check Manhunt in order to find out :/
That probably wouldn't be true as police chief Gary Shaffer was mentioned in the radio as being cleared of corruption charges by the courts, I'm pretty sure they was referencing the events of manhunt as Gary Shaffer (chief of the CCPD) was taking bribes from Starkweather to capture Cash, this means that GTA 3 takes place after the events of manhunt
I think he went on his yacht to Vice city to do business with TommyVercetti knowing he started growing a money printing business 15 years prior
Everything seems to add up. It seems that Rockstar chose Donald in favour of expanding his story eventually. The Manual Guide is very interesting, watched it years back. I really wonder though why would Donald seek to make counterfeit money though. It might be as a way to get himself infinite wealth. Here is how I see it - Donald sought infinite wealth, and knew that the Yakuza are in the market for the forging trade. The Yakuza are still likely involved in counterfeit money, given their casino and wealth and the sphere of influence they’ve had under Kazuki. Donald saw the Yakuza as the lesser gang in organised crime, and sought to undermine them. Kenji was likely to be ownership of the plates, so Donald had him killed. He had his own agenda and didn’t trust Claude fully until he retrieved the package. By killing Kenji he’d kill two birds with one stone - he’d potentially appease the Cartel, and be able to retrieve the plates without Yakuza intervention. Asuka probably figured that the Cartel killed Kenji for the plates, and didn’t pay any attention to the package because she was blinded by revenge. It’s possible that with her connections to the LCPD, she was able to discover Love’s role in the Yakuza’s decline and took revenge. Either that or Donald chose to leave because of his lack of real experience in criminal work on his own, fearing for his life.
Wassup, Just! Good to see you again 😉 Yeah, we are really thankful for Brady Games strategy guides and the Holy Grail of GTA 3 cause it would be impossible to find out the truth without those priceless sources 🙂 As for the reason Donald Love decided to counterfeit money... it's really hard to determine this. It could be for the sake of being even richer, perhaps doing some shady stuff and trying to get additional funds? It makes sense considering that he is a cannibal. 😅 Now in terms of both stories, we wouldn't try to connect them as they are similar, but in the end different really. In one of them, we've got Yakuza trying to make counterfeit bills which is actually a case known from the real world. And on the other hand, we've got a multi-billionaire who wants to taste everything that seems like a forbidden fruit just because he has the money and influence to indulge in it. (Ray Machowski's quote here 😄 ) Still, nice try with attempting to connect these nonetheless 😉
The LCPD would never find out Donald used Claude to kill her brother Kenji. She was still blinded in rage. She didn't even find out that the man she is giving money to is the killer of her brother. Asuka was still on the construction site torturing Miguel to reveal his criminal business and all tricks to become rich.
Asuka was murdered within days of discovering her brother's death. She was in the construction site the entire time. She had no time to do any investigation. The only connection she had to LCPD was one corrupt cop which was Ray and he already skipped town by that point presumably. And his usefulness was spent by that point even if you hadn't helped him escape yet.
@@mikeydashank3897yep he skipped town before asuka mission reappear along with Donald love
Yakuza? Infinite Wealth? 🤔
My theory is that Donald Love disappeared and re-emerged as Mr Nasty from Manhunt who produced snuff films along with the director Starkweather. The events of Manhunt do take place after the events of GTA 3 as stated in the Manhunt Wiki, so it could be possible that Donald went into hiding under the alias of Mr Nasty. Both are sadistic too
But starkweather began making his snuff films in the 90s my friend
@GardG4m3r, who says Donald wasn't funding him by then? He was still well-known as a businessman by Liberty City Stories and a mayoral candidate that no one aside from the Forelli's had a problem with.
@GardG4mer I make my theory that Donald Love is Mr. Nasty without a doubt.
Loved the video, it goes in great detail about Donald Love!
One popular theory is that Donald Love is Mr. Nasty from Manhunt1, though same mystery is for Mr. Nasty: no one really knows what what happened to him
I have my theory that Donald Love is Mr. Nasty
@@skarr88 honestly I think so too, it kind of makes sense to me, if Mr. Nasty is not Donald Love, then I'd imagine that they two would have some sort of connection.
@@ekkiegill1439 Exactly, think why Police Chief from Carcer City Gary Schaffer was acquitted of corruption charges? Donald Love helped him get rid of those charges in exchange for Schaffer hiding him in Carcer City, in addition to the fact that Love would know that Starkweather bribed Schaffer in exchange for Schaffer letting him record his snuff films in specific places in Carcer City that Schaffer allowed Starweather, then Love found his paradise of making money and satisfying his fetishes under the pseudonym Mr. Nasty and starting the business of Valiant Video Enterprises with Starweather as his right hand and at the same time selling the snuff material to very select people. and to the Japanese market (you can find that information in the Manhunt Wiki about the Valiant company). That is my theory very briefly, I don't know what you think of it brother.
@@ekkiegill1439 I briefly summarize the theory.
Donald Love knew that he was ruining his political image a lot and having a lot of problems with the mafia so he thought... I'll escape Liberty City, but where to? Then he would somehow know about the corruption cases of Carcer City Police Chief Gary Schaffer from the neighboring city. Love would contact Schaffer and ask him a favor; Love pays money to have Schaffer acquitted of corruption charges in exchange for Schaffer providing a safe house for Love to hide in for a while. That's when we heard on Lips 106 radio that Schaffer had been acquitted of corruption charges, what a coincidence. Schaffer accepts the deal and Love then leaves Liberty City and travels to Carcer City, staying at the safe house. There he meets Schaffer in person and they talk, at some point Love, being as charismatic as he is, would tell Schaffer everything he had done in Liberty City and Schaffer would tell him what he had done in Carcer City, Love discovers in that conversation from Schaffer on the bribes he receives from Lionel Starkweather in exchange for filming snuff films in specific locations in Carcer City, voila! Love, upon learning about this fascinating world in which he could continue satisfying his fetishes and earn a lot of money, does business with Lionel Starkweather, thus creating Valiant Video Enterprises with Starkweather as his right-hand man and being its director and Love under the pseudonym Mr. Nasty. If I could, I would write my entire theory from Vice City to Manhunt 2 and ending with GTA 4, but it would be too long to write it here, so I have summarized my theory just to relate Donal Love to Mr. Nasty.
What do you think about my theory brother?
@@ekkiegill1439 Donald Loves is Mr. Nasty without doubt. I have a very extensive theory but RUclips eliminates all the text I write hahahahaha
I always thought it had to do with Ned Burner dying in the LCS. in the stop the press mission there is a similar box on the table....i always think that someone found the box and sent it to donald.
Huh, that's quite interesting 🤔 There is a similar box in the garage during the aforementioned mission indeed... Well, bearing in mind that we are dealing with a journalist and we are in the garage outside of the newspaper company, there might be a possibility that the box we see could contain plates 🙂 However, there is one thing that will kill this theory - the fact that Donald Love was importing the packages, they were not in his possession until Claude delivered them in the "Grand Theft Aero" mission. Overall, it is quite sus that we have a similar box in GTA LCS, but we presume that Rockstar North simply reused this asset from GTA 3 and there's no hidden meaning behind this box :/ Even Donald Love doesn't mention this box or order Toni to get them. But still, really cool theory 😉
Can it be that donald had gone to vice city as he also introduced tommy to him in one of his missions
Vice city takes place 15 years before GTA 3
Bigfoot ate him.
He ate big foot 😂
My theories about Donal Love's sudden disappearance:
1-Donald love was an intelligent man. Knowing that Claude had betrayed his employers, he ran away to avoid being killed by Claude when he had done enough work.
2: In some missions, the cartel learns that the Claude-Eastern gentleman-Donald Love trio is in a relationship, and Donald Love is kidnapped and who knows, maybe killed by the cartel.
3: In 1998, together with Toni Cipriani, he was captured by Tommy and kidnapped to Vice City for killing Avery Carrington, an old friend of Tommy Vercetti. Tommy may kidnap Donald to revenge his old friend Avery.
4:He disappeared to continue his disgusting fantasies and was seen on manhunt under the identity of MR.NASTY. (Manhunt and GTA take place in the same universe). Donald was already a cannibal, psychotic and a man with disgusting fantasies. The Mr.nasty theory works.
The remaining question is why the developers made these decisions and changes - short on time and in need of filling plot-holes?
People need to give these narrators a chance.
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Nice video. Donald is for me by far most interesting character. You have new subscriber.
Probably his Vice City golf resort like his real life counter part.
Donald love's appearance in GTA 3 is his first but last canonical one
his second appearance in vice city is the canonical first appearance
The cutting room really broke this game's story. I never even realized Love's oriental friend was the guy that gets busted out of the prison van at the beginning, because he's such a minor character and it's just not important in the final game. Yet the game was supposed to hinge on him. Cutting the Yakuza boss in favor of a weak Trump parody that went nowhere seems like a bad choice in retrospect.
Yeah, we also think that the previous concept of the whole thread was far better and more logical. And just thinking about those cut missions, it really breaks our hearts 😦
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@@asm7406 *Donald* Love was *literally* a parody of *Donald* Trump.
@@asm7406Trump Smartass
I remember about the theory that donald knew of claude's personality of betraying employers so he just ran away for safety knowing he can be next
Wow this theory actually makes sense
You earned a sub, dude
Hell yeah, thanks!
@@gaminginvestigators You're welcomed!
I think that Green Goo and Truth are also big mysteries...
If you are interested in the aliens or The Truth's conspiracy theories, we actually made videos about both of these topics some time ago 🙂 Aliens can be found here -> ruclips.net/video/1v72CwdATZ8/видео.html and The Truth's conspiracy theories are over there -> ruclips.net/video/shhadIqwCfQ/видео.html 🤘
Dang a new channel to binge
9:57 "You my friend are worth 10 guns"
Your points actually make a lot of sense watching your video
He answering all the questions that we all been waiting for
Yup, we are trying to solve some of these mysteries and it looks like we can 😁
@@gaminginvestigators I been wanting to know what happen to Donald love for years
Would be cool if Donald Love showed up in GTA 6.
That will be pretty much impossible, BUT he might be referenced in GTA 6, that's for sure 😉
What’s the GTA III theme remix you’re using called?
@TheMasterQuests this is GTA2 theme
Idk man the tune at 1:20 sounds like GTA III theme with a different instrument selection@@rezun1616
@@TheMasterQuests actually , in 5:01 you can hear GTA2 theme
Awesome video friend. My boys and I been speculating for decades. This helps narrow it down a bit. 😎
I read a long time ago that the makers of gta 3 were going to have claude turn on DL in his last mission, flying a plane into DL’s office, killing him….unfortunately a month before the release of the game, September 11th happened so they had to be quick and eliminate the mission.
I think he ran away because the gangs are mad at him when claude destroyed the plane
Great analysis! A suggestion for a future video: How about covering other GTA-style games like Mafia? A interesting topic would be Henry's death from Mafia 2. Was he really a rat or not? The game does leave some clues as far as I remember.
Thanks, man! Speaking of your suggestion, we are definitely going to make lore videos about other video games in the future 🙂 For now, we would like to focus on the franchise that we have more experience with and provide great quality for you 😅
Could you please make a video on the scrapped side missions of GTA VC?
I have never seen GTA 3 so fluid like that. ( To be fair I've only played the OG PC and PS2 versions, and the remaster on switch is not this fluid either)
He surely is Mr. Nasty from Manhunt
Piggsy sends his regards... 🐷
A lot of the things you can see in a BradyGames strategy guide aren't final, since the people get to play the game a lot earlier before release. So, this whole plates angle was probably scrapped. Not even in the final game
nice episode for gta3 you're channel is awesome can you talk about tunnels shoreside vale
Don and OG were somewhere else in the building. Claude couldn't have possibly searched the entire place.
He cracked the code 😯
Yes, we did it! 😁 But it wasn't that simple, it would be impossible without the leak of the GTA 3 Design Doc 😅
I always figured they absconded, now that I think about it, probably to escape any potential wrath of the Yakuza for seeing to Kenji's assassination, should they have ever found or worked it out! Asuka's not a nice lady to cross! Yakuza don't tend to be! Pissing off gangsters has a tendency to be hazardous to your health for some bizarre reason, can't think why... Looking at it here, though, it would make sense if he set sail, another nice throwback to the events of Vice City, it's clear he's taken some inspiration from what transpired there all those years ago, what with aforementioned assassination 'n'all!
Do what happened to Luis Lopez after GTA tbogt
Might see him in GTA .
Probably running his club massonnette 9
Whoops didn't finish my sentence probably will see him in gta 6.
Very good topic. For now, we've got other things to cover, but we will add your idea to our list 😉
Luis Lopez ran Tony’s Maisonette 9. Being a subtitle club owner for a while. Then went to college like his mother wanted him to go to. Did it. And used his management degree to appear more educated. And more recommended.
Honestly it feels like it's the box from Hellraiser, and it got him inside.
Meanwhile in video game Hell Catalina is waving her hands like Kermit the Frog.😂
Hahaha well, she got her chance to obtain those plates 😂
Well Dan Houser written the story, so he knows.
Could be both they both were trying to leave, cleaned the places out, and probably got caught and killed by the Columbians. Or they could have just gotten away, so one of those could be it.
When will you shift to manhunt and Max Payne alongside gta. I know you'll be saying that i am being too much selfish but it's just i can't control the content we'll get. But please keep posting more. Even if you post gta content, i love that you still post. I have strong feeling that one day this channel will boom to 10 million subs and it'll be the only place for gta fans
Hi there! 😃 Well, unfortunately, it's really hard to tell you when we are going to include more video games in our content :/ It's not because we don't like them or something, but we would like to discuss video games that we are kinda experts in and you can rely on what is presented in the episode. Our priority is to give our audience verified, justified, and factual content 🙂 The only thing we can assure you of is that we will expand to more than GTA at some point 😅 By the way, thank you for your constant support, we really appreciate that 🔥
@@gaminginvestigators Well the line that " we will give audience verified and factual content" really assures me that in whatever content you'll go, you'll boom
Is your game footage from the PC version? It looks great
It's not the original game, the footage is a reversed version of the game (search for re3 of GTA 3 and Vice City) which allows to edit the code of the game and put new mechanics. GTA 3 have an early basic gameplay; there's a ton of content that the prequels pulled better than gta 3.
You could do an investigation about gta 4 the lost and damned about Ray boccino and Johnny klebitz relationships and how it ended with ray's betrayal after Johnny escapes in "collector's item"
That sounds like quite an ambitious thing to cover, ngl. We won't be able to discuss this issue now, but there is a high chance we will in the future, so stay tuned 🤘
He picked the stone and turned in to a pigeon and fly away :D
Love was always a man with a plan, he simply left because Liberty City was too hot at the time.
III was able to make a relatively difficult mystery just by leaving out small details and I think that we only have about 75% of the Donald Love from all his appearances in GTA games
I get the feeling that I’m listening to a old gta series video for some reason. Anyone else?
I have a theory that love and O. Gentleman was ambushed by the police or the Columbians, which was the box seemed haphazardly placed, but in fact, it was due to some kind of rush that love took the stuff away and hid in his Shoreside Vale apartment like he did in GTA LCS, and probably is seeking help, and maybe, like you said the Columbians got O. Gentleman or he was arrested, and Love might be seeking help from Cipriani
What GTA 3 mod did you use? It's so beautiful
I believe and everyone agrees he’s mr.nasty in manhunt series. Yes definitely hiding somewhere but he is the dark businessman mr nasty who makes snuff films
I dont know why but i think the remains of donald love are what you see in the box at the mission loves disapperance.
Toni would be really happy that Donald has finally become a man.
He is Mr.Nasty from Manhunt.
Wow wow this vids are out this world.. say is there a way to contact grove street game? I wonder if they can mix gta vc and vcs in to one single game
Surely there are some ways to contact Grove Street Games, but we wouldn't do that if we were you 😂 They make shitty remasters lmao
Awesome video oh what i see the intro the Mafia 1 original from 2002 still the goat and yes i was about to ask why Donald Love hiding in those pacakeges what was documents money ?
Thanks, bro! Well, now you know what's inside the packages 😁
@@gaminginvestigators i think will be 2 things documents and money and will rockstar put him back in GTA 6 ?
@@gaminginvestigators when you have time will you make a video about mafia 1 from 2002 the original about what developers if they put lots of secrets or scripts in the game and if some secrets are there why the removed when they launch the game in 2002 ?
He is the President of the United States during the events of GTA VI
The fact that Rockstar kinda was onto something when Donald Love was climbing the politician ladder and his character is based of Donald Trump and Trump became a president is pretty shocking.
I think Donald love get away. Good work on the video.😊
They cocaine packages ffs
Wait, in the story. The Yakuza came to rescue their Japanese gentlemen. But in the final game, the Columbian Cartel ambush and take the gentlemen as hostage for their plans. I have a theory that the Japanese gentlemen might be that dude Tommy punched in the face and stole the plates for his factory.
Thanks for letting us know about your theory 🤘 However, there is one slight problem with it - Tommy was stealing information about the plates from the Triads, not the Yakuza. These two organizations are not the same 😉
@@gaminginvestigators The Triad Tommy beat up might be Ran Fa Li , the older Triad that Woozy was helping in San Andreas , Tommy hit him so hard that he could only grunt . Idk just a theory .
What are you talking about sadman Khan which japanese gentleman? And what mission do you mean that tommy punched & stole his plates
@@TheLatinoRedneckCowboySpilling the beans
Cannibal love?
Rockstar should have left more clues about the package on lcs. Such a huge miss of opportunity
Yeah... when you think about it 🤔 But still, looks like they didn't want to reference this topic :/ Instead, Rockstar North managed to give us some insight about the morgue parties Donald Love held 😈
4:15 the subtitles said "thank you",it was probably Donald who said that.
XD
We actually have some idea of what happened to Donald Love. Rockstar in 2009 was asked and they answered "No one is quite sure what happened to Donald Love. He certainly crossed a few boundaries and was trying to find a way back to normality. Whether or not he managed this, and what happened to the elderly Asian gentleman are matters we cannot speculate on."
So you could infer that by the end of his time in GTA 3, Donald had a realization of what a horrible scumbag he was and maybe left Liberty City to repent and redeem himself? It's possible I suppose.
What are your pc specs gta 3 looks extremely high quality
I think tommy killed him because he killed Avery caringhton
I was wondering when someone was gonna make this video. I always assumed he became Mr. Nasty from Manhunt though nothing was ever confirmed
My theory is he escaped via his boat he's probably back in Vice City a place he knows well plus you forgot about the paperwork he had Toni kill Avery for plus his "pull" with the Leones probably paid them protection from the columbians while he escaped if I'm not mistaken he is mentioned in GTA V
Toni Cipriani killed Avery Carrington, not Claude
@@glennmellaerts1831 You right got it mixed up
So you think that the second possibility is more likely to happen, huh? Actually, it's not a bad lead when you mention Vice City since as you said, Donald Love was there before. Speaking of "paperwork", we don't know how this murder of Avery Carrington got anything to do with his escape though 😅 Another case is the Leones getting paid for the protection - this doesn't seem too justified, at least from our perspective. And finally, we personally don't know whether Love was mentioned in GTA 5. Even if he was, we are only talking about a plain reference, nothing else 😃
I love FF14, couldn't get into GW2 mainly because of the weird class system upgrade they have, you start as a class and level up until a certain level and from there you have to upgrade to one of the versions from an expansion in order to be more powerful, since the base class isn't that great at max level. So I have the problem where I love the gameplay of the base class but hate every single evolution for that class, it doesn't feel like the class I've played and is weird! Then I have the problem of loving the evolution of a class but hate the base class that I have to play in order to reach that point...
Always thought it was someone close to Avery and got revenge for his death
Like Tommy Vercetti
@@IS34PreteristForceTommy probably sent hit men to kidnap Donald.
Be funny if the thing in the box was the green goo from san andreas.
Hey, don't ask me, ask a fool!
Well, if you gonna make this thang personal, I ain't speakin' on it no more.
@@miguelpasamano4995 🤣🤣
Always wondered what did happen to Donald Love in end still a mystery
That Brady games shit took me way back man!!
Love definitely got away. Will we see him again? Maybe in GTA6, but only if the new writers are self-aware and aware of the deeplore of the classic storyline. I would bet we never hear another thing about Love.
Well, even though we highly doubt that Donald Love will appear in GTA 6, Rockstar North can still give a lot of references to this character in the game 😉
@@gaminginvestigators he can't can appear in the HD Universe due to the 3D universe
@@scarface3738 exactly, anyways... somehow some 3D universe characters do exist in the HD universe, we can consider that some 3D universe stuff is some sort of movie/tv series/ book. The posters, the book with love's 3D universe photo in it.
Og Loc is referenced in GTA if I’m not mistaken, Dogg too in a poster (like claude in VC) some known gangs exist BUT this can be some sort of 'Flashpoint' thing, if a butterfly moves his wings it can create a tornado across the world but it she didn’t move her wings maybe it caused that someone discovered the cure for any disease, the flashpoint plays with this at another level. it can be some sort of pulp fiction is real and kill bill is a movie in pulp fiction. If we continue with the thing that makes "sense" maybe the 3D world is fictional based on real life (HD), or with the flashpoint thing... well the 3D universe exists in its own timeline but the HD universe created a new one where Love wasn’t a criminal, he was known bc of his work/job at media/TV (love is famous in the HD universe)
@@TotallyNotKanye I get what you're saying man but yeah.
@@gaminginvestigators Will you be doing a history on King Courtney
Rockstar leaks show the voice actor’s Uber rides to the studio lol so who knows
There needs to be a GTA 3 movie. fucking seriously
Although I haven't played GTA3 since it was new, and therefore my recollection is incomplete, but at the time I assumed the "mystery box" which is left behind was a Hellraiser refernce. Love had desired the box, went to a lot of trouble to obtain it. Succeeded in opening the box and was abducted into hell.
I had assumed it was left so vague to avoid infringing copyright.
Well,
What is bothering me The Most is that
CLAUDE DOES NOT HAVE A VOICE
and
That has to Change
How do we know what he was thinking when He was going to do one Last Mission for Donald Love?
We don't know what Claude was thinking
and
I want to say to Rockstar Games,
GIVE CLAUDE A VOICE BECAUSE HE AT LEAST DESERVES THAT!!!!
Why were the CIA interested in Ray and Phil ?
That's probably a good topic for another episode. Perhaps we will answer this question too one day, so stay tuned 😉
@@gaminginvestigators Thanks for the heads up .