Honestly I felt zero sympathy for him because he was the one being cocky and looking for fights, talking trash and deliberately doing everything just to lure Baki out. He treated it all like a game until he started to learn that people weren't playing around anymore.
What a lot of people miss about Jr. is that he's Baki at the start of the manga. He looks like a grown up, but he's emotionally a 13 year old boy. Like Baki at the beginning of the series, he's stronger than most people, but doesn't go thru the major losses Baki does, he even beats his father in a fight. Because of this he stops growing emotionally, and even his fighting has not evanced that much, as seen with his rematch with Sr. All this is to show how much Baki has grown as a fighter over the last 5 years. You see this when Baki and Jr. fight. This also changes his relationship with Kozue. Kozue is a Highschool student who has just had her first date and kiss in the last year, and she also sees Jr. as a bit of a child. The first time they meet he gives her a toy as a charm, and than after only seeing her a few times, he says he wants to marry her without much fanfare or expressing strong emotions, much like a child, not knowing what he's talking about, telling a girl he has a crush on that he wants to marry her. Kozoe from this point, treats Jr. like he's her litte brother, caring for his well being, and laughing off his repeated marrage proposals.
Very well said!! And good analysis. I like the parallels you drew between Baki and Alai. It just shows that your life can be completely different based on what drives you and what choices you make. I'm super stoked you posted this because it gave me a lot more to think about! Thank you so much for watching with us! Not sure why we are only seeing this comment now! -JM
hey, at least jack didn't come to fight him a 2nd time. He would've been dead for sure. "But I lost to you, why do you want to fight again?" Jack: "Kiss your ass goodbye."
Here's the thing Muhammad Ali jr is stronger than all the people he ever fought except jack. However, he is taking what these maniacs do lightly. They will fight you at any time and place, to them you being injured just means, "hey this is my chance to get him." Ali JR needed to realize this, because compared to Baki who was literally dying from poison and still accepting challenges, Ali jr was being too naive..
@@dgbd9030 Doppo would have no chance against Oliva. Jack would have no chance against Oliva. Oliva is the most durable being in the Bakiverse outside of Pickle and MAYBE Yujiro.
“That’s how our world works” Emphasis on OUR... Junior should of seen that he didn’t belong in the world of monsters like Baki, Jack, Shibukawa and Doppo Orochi. In any competition, Junior would have been as renowned as his dad, yet in the world of Underground No hold barred death fights, Junior is nothing but a Minnow in a sea full of Sharks... While people can be disappointed by Juniors fall from grace due to his hype, it should serve as a lesson. No matter how hard you train and think yourself the best, if you don’t have the correct mentality for it, in this case, To the Death Brawls, then you should quit while your ahead.
He definitely did not know what he was getting into. I wonder where he will go from here? It’s kind of hard to imagine him quitting, but it’s also kind of hard to imagine home beating Baki. I guess we will find out soon! Thanks for watching! -JM
Hanmas don't run from challenges, but they also don't pick on the weak or exploit weaknesses; depending on the battle, if you're not on their level they will hold back unless you ask them not to
Yujiro is very interesting. For me, it’s hard to say whether I like him or not. But the more I find out about him the more I kind of become a fan! Yujiro would have decimated Ali jr though haha thanks for watching! -JM
Oh man.. it's time for the Ali Jr. Beatdown. Not gonna lie reading this part in the manga kind of made me uncomfortable, it just felt like they were just bullying him. Though he did start the fights with them, I honestly felt (and feel) bad for Ali Jr.
I feel the same way! This dude entered a world he was not prepared for and end up paying the price. They were definitely doing something to them based on them being sore losers haha. Pretty interesting to see this side of doppo and shibukawa! Thanks for watching! -JM
Keep in mind the hanma family don't hold back. That's why jack brutally almost murdered ali jr and jr is a simp he never had a chance to be on baki's level. Baki had to face death head on jr on the other hand, is just a boy scout.
Damn I hope we get to see a pretty decent fight between Ali and Baki, but no one has been able to touch “enlightened Baki” since he and kozue did the dirty. It’s kind of hard to think of the outcome between Ali jr and Baki, but I’m team Baki right now haha thanks for watching! -JM
Ali Jr has one of the highest natural talents of any fighter in the Baki series. The problem is he is kind of an idiot. He thinks knocking out Doppo or Shibukawa means he won the fight. It's not a match, there are no rules, the fight is over when BOTH sides agree the fight is over. As I said MUCH earlier on in the series, being the better fighter doesn't always mean you win though. Matchups are a thing. Jack's physicality is in a league so far apart from Ali Jr's he simply can't hurt him.
True, though I'd say he was naive...not an idiot. Ali def did win those fights; if it was in the Raitai; he'd have won...period; but of course in the streets he wasn't on guard. Had he experience the death row inmate; he'd probably be Baki's rival but yeah. :\ Kinda sucks
Yeah Ali jr is definitely a gifted fighter. He definitely was not prepared to enter the world that Baki lives in. It kind of makes me wonder if Ali Sr. Dipped his toes into this world or not! Thanks for watching! -JM
You’ll see the backstory of jack in the original anime you’re watching. It’s interesting and explains why he lengthens his bones and take all those anabolics
Can’t wait to see his backstory! I’ve been hoping to see some more of him since they showed his flashback in Netflix season 1! Thanks for watching with us! -JM
i just love this episode so much. its just "hey spoiled guy. yeah u are good but we dont care if u are injured" dude got a tast of the streets and the underground world of fighthing. the old man showed him that victory is not alwayes Absolute. doppoe showed him that real world dont care how u feel or what ur state is u gonna face challenges. and jack just showed him what is brutallty and i so fucking love it. he understood he is no that good.
This episode i loved. This is like a lesson for Jr. His over here taking everyone lightly. These guys even at old age fighting to the death. Losing an eye or getting poisoned. Fighting bare hand against swords and knives. Some even fight hand to hand but then all of a sudden boy pulls out knives from his limbs and has a bomb attached to his chest... I mean this is the world of baki. The art of if you try to kill someone also know they will kill you too. Then the icing on top... Ali Jr. came over here all late trying to smash some of that Kozue prime meat, Doesnt give a fck about baki loving her or the struggle he went through i mean his enemies knew his weakness was her so they used her to get to him. Love this episode. Humble this wanna be Casanova. Kozue needs to stop being an idiot too accepting this mans approach... girl you know Baki is your main squeeze. Just like Baki dont be accepting his buddies offer to have gorgeous women every night for the rest of his life then she shouldnt be accepting this simp that literally was about to die to Baki.
Doppo and Goki are not nice guys. It's easy to believe that because they are part of the crew of protagonists but they are fucking assholes lol. Doppo in his 30's was just running around beating the shit out of everyone he could find
Hahaha this is becoming more and more clear with their fights this episode. I had no idea! I wonder what it’d be like to be doppos son. It’s hard to see what kind of relationship they have based on what we’ve been given so far! Thank you for watching! -JM
Stomp on the feet is likely a rough translation, but it would also be a good way to torture someone when they are down and make sure they can't really come at you again in the future, at least not the same way. Your stomp on someone's feet and ankles while they are down and out, they won't be walking the same ever again
This is just How the baki story goes hello I’m an overpowered character and I’m not Japanese I will be treated with respect until the writer remembers that he is writing pro Japanese propaganda and gets bored decides he’s going to crank his favourite characters up to 29 hello weird swan fighter who is fighting doppo and is obviously going somewh- oh yujiro killed him ok ok probably a fluke hi scary convict guys I’m sure you all have a point ........ ok ok that didn’t work out either it got dumb ran out of ideas one guy literally exploded his own hand instead of just getting a gun or something and they seem to have forgotten that in the preview of their return that will totally go somewhere and these characters will have a point and won’t just be wasted like our boy retsu who is obviously another son of yujiro because he has the demon back but it’s never commented or even noticed and since he wasn’t confirmed half Japanese like jack then he must be killed by the Japanese musashi rinse and repeat a Japanese character is gonna kill old man khaio I sees it coming I does I does
They was trying to teach him if he continues fighting we will have to be no only stronger but he need to be ready to fight to dead fight for his live but that character is scared and he is didn't born to be a fighter
Honestly I felt zero sympathy for him because he was the one being cocky and looking for fights, talking trash and deliberately doing everything just to lure Baki out. He treated it all like a game until he started to learn that people weren't playing around anymore.
Definitely fell into a world he was not prepared for. Doppo and Shibukawa went HAM on him. I don't know how he will defeat baki! -JM
What a lot of people miss about Jr. is that he's Baki at the start of the manga. He looks like a grown up, but he's emotionally a 13 year old boy. Like Baki at the beginning of the series, he's stronger than most people, but doesn't go thru the major losses Baki does, he even beats his father in a fight. Because of this he stops growing emotionally, and even his fighting has not evanced that much, as seen with his rematch with Sr. All this is to show how much Baki has grown as a fighter over the last 5 years. You see this when Baki and Jr. fight. This also changes his relationship with Kozue. Kozue is a Highschool student who has just had her first date and kiss in the last year, and she also sees Jr. as a bit of a child. The first time they meet he gives her a toy as a charm, and than after only seeing her a few times, he says he wants to marry her without much fanfare or expressing strong emotions, much like a child, not knowing what he's talking about, telling a girl he has a crush on that he wants to marry her. Kozoe from this point, treats Jr. like he's her litte brother, caring for his well being, and laughing off his repeated marrage proposals.
Exactly
Very well said!! And good analysis. I like the parallels you drew between Baki and Alai. It just shows that your life can be completely different based on what drives you and what choices you make. I'm super stoked you posted this because it gave me a lot more to think about! Thank you so much for watching with us! Not sure why we are only seeing this comment now! -JM
hey, at least jack didn't come to fight him a 2nd time. He would've been dead for sure. "But I lost to you, why do you want to fight again?" Jack: "Kiss your ass goodbye."
Here's the thing Muhammad Ali jr is stronger than all the people he ever fought except jack. However, he is taking what these maniacs do lightly. They will fight you at any time and place, to them you being injured just means, "hey this is my chance to get him." Ali JR needed to realize this, because compared to Baki who was literally dying from poison and still accepting challenges, Ali jr was being too naive..
actually the old man was stronger. he can defete even oliva.
@@dgbd9030 Doppo would have no chance against Oliva. Jack would have no chance against Oliva. Oliva is the most durable being in the Bakiverse outside of Pickle and MAYBE Yujiro.
@@philliparnesen6942 dude. i talked about shibukawa or something like that i just don't know how to write his name. chill
@@dgbd9030 Okay. I misunderstood, but Shibukawa isn't stronger he just counters Oliva. Oliva wins more matchups more consistently.
@@philliparnesen6942 ok. i guess we will never see him fight.
“That’s how our world works”
Emphasis on OUR...
Junior should of seen that he didn’t belong in the world of monsters like Baki, Jack, Shibukawa and Doppo Orochi.
In any competition, Junior would have been as renowned as his dad, yet in the world of Underground No hold barred death fights, Junior is nothing but a Minnow in a sea full of Sharks...
While people can be disappointed by Juniors fall from grace due to his hype, it should serve as a lesson.
No matter how hard you train and think yourself the best, if you don’t have the correct mentality for it, in this case, To the Death Brawls, then you should quit while your ahead.
He definitely did not know what he was getting into. I wonder where he will go from here? It’s kind of hard to imagine him quitting, but it’s also kind of hard to imagine home beating Baki. I guess we will find out soon! Thanks for watching! -JM
You're the only person I've ever heard mention the eyebrows. You're right. I'm pretty sure Che was one of his bastards as well.
This Ep was a wake up call for Ali Jr.
For real!! Thank you for watching -JM
Even yujiro would’ve had some sort of mercy on the dude😂😂 my mans would’ve said “still too weak”
Hanmas don't run from challenges, but they also don't pick on the weak or exploit weaknesses; depending on the battle, if you're not on their level they will hold back unless you ask them not to
Yujiro is very interesting. For me, it’s hard to say whether I like him or not. But the more I find out about him the more I kind of become a fan! Yujiro would have decimated Ali jr though haha thanks for watching! -JM
Hahaha, Ali Jr is fucked up!!
Now he has to pay the price for what he did in the past!
He definitely paid the price for sure... with interest! Thanks for watching ! -JM
Oh man.. it's time for the Ali Jr. Beatdown. Not gonna lie reading this part in the manga kind of made me uncomfortable, it just felt like they were just bullying him.
Though he did start the fights with them, I honestly felt (and feel) bad for Ali Jr.
I feel the same way! This dude entered a world he was not prepared for and end up paying the price. They were definitely doing something to them based on them being sore losers haha. Pretty interesting to see this side of doppo and shibukawa! Thanks for watching! -JM
Keep in mind the hanma family don't hold back. That's why jack brutally almost murdered ali jr and jr is a simp he never had a chance to be on baki's level. Baki had to face death head on jr on the other hand, is just a boy scout.
True, but remember Baki did state Junior was not weak at all; if anything he was a threat, a BIG threat Baki went semi-all out against him.
Damn I hope we get to see a pretty decent fight between Ali and Baki, but no one has been able to touch “enlightened Baki” since he and kozue did the dirty. It’s kind of hard to think of the outcome between Ali jr and Baki, but I’m team Baki right now haha thanks for watching! -JM
@@wibugang whats dirty about what about baki and kuzoe did its a reguler thing to do and completly naturel
Ali Jr has one of the highest natural talents of any fighter in the Baki series. The problem is he is kind of an idiot. He thinks knocking out Doppo or Shibukawa means he won the fight. It's not a match, there are no rules, the fight is over when BOTH sides agree the fight is over. As I said MUCH earlier on in the series, being the better fighter doesn't always mean you win though. Matchups are a thing. Jack's physicality is in a league so far apart from Ali Jr's he simply can't hurt him.
True, though I'd say he was naive...not an idiot. Ali def did win those fights; if it was in the Raitai; he'd have won...period; but of course in the streets he wasn't on guard. Had he experience the death row inmate; he'd probably be Baki's rival but yeah. :\ Kinda sucks
@@atari_hmb Fair, I still call him an idiot for what happens later. Won't spoil anything but you probably know.
Yeah Ali jr is definitely a gifted fighter. He definitely was not prepared to enter the world that Baki lives in. It kind of makes me wonder if Ali Sr. Dipped his toes into this world or not! Thanks for watching! -JM
Jack was the main villian baki had to face in season 2
So stoked to watch this in the older baki series!! -JM
You’ll see the backstory of jack in the original anime you’re watching. It’s interesting and explains why he lengthens his bones and take all those anabolics
You find out jack really isn't an insane monster like he seems
@@jdspencer60 in baki 2018 we saw jack being friendly though
@@nvgsvds Jack is actually very polite when he's not fighting.
@@ramzizou6277 What I mean is, the reason he trains so hard and goes to such extremes was not what I expected, and is understandable
Can’t wait to see his backstory! I’ve been hoping to see some more of him since they showed his flashback in Netflix season 1! Thanks for watching with us! -JM
i just love this episode so much. its just "hey spoiled guy. yeah u are good but we dont care if u are injured" dude got a tast of the streets and the underground world of fighthing. the old man showed him that victory is not alwayes Absolute. doppoe showed him that real world dont care how u feel or what ur state is u gonna face challenges. and jack just showed him what is brutallty and i so fucking love it. he understood he is no that good.
That’s a very good point! I was contemplating what exactly the lessons they each taught him. Thanks for speaking on this. It really helped me out! -JM
This episode i loved. This is like a lesson for Jr. His over here taking everyone lightly. These guys even at old age fighting to the death. Losing an eye or getting poisoned. Fighting bare hand against swords and knives. Some even fight hand to hand but then all of a sudden boy pulls out knives from his limbs and has a bomb attached to his chest... I mean this is the world of baki. The art of if you try to kill someone also know they will kill you too. Then the icing on top... Ali Jr. came over here all late trying to smash some of that Kozue prime meat, Doesnt give a fck about baki loving her or the struggle he went through i mean his enemies knew his weakness was her so they used her to get to him. Love this episode. Humble this wanna be Casanova. Kozue needs to stop being an idiot too accepting this mans approach... girl you know Baki is your main squeeze. Just like Baki dont be accepting his buddies offer to have gorgeous women every night for the rest of his life then she shouldnt be accepting this simp that literally was about to die to Baki.
Doppo and Goki are not nice guys. It's easy to believe that because they are part of the crew of protagonists but they are fucking assholes lol. Doppo in his 30's was just running around beating the shit out of everyone he could find
Hahaha this is becoming more and more clear with their fights this episode. I had no idea! I wonder what it’d be like to be doppos son. It’s hard to see what kind of relationship they have based on what we’ve been given so far! Thank you for watching! -JM
They are, they only fight those who accept their challenge or they attacked them first
@@majungasaurus6814 you must have missed the part when shibukawa went out and provoked people in order for them to want to fight
to answer your question, the song is called Confrontation Baki OST.
Hell yeah! I’m gonna make a mix with all of OG Baki music. So good. Thank you for watching! 🖤 Somaly
@@wibugang My pleasure. Keep up the good work you 2.
Muhammad ali jr when he said "nows ur chance" i think he meant the kind of treament pee on head.
I love that girl she predict the tongue cut haha
"I feel kind of bad for him"
Well I don't he sucks
What the fuck Jr did 3 damn fights and he sill wants more
Like that was fucking cool😎😇🙏🏽💪🏿
Stomp on the feet is likely a rough translation, but it would also be a good way to torture someone when they are down and make sure they can't really come at you again in the future, at least not the same way. Your stomp on someone's feet and ankles while they are down and out, they won't be walking the same ever again
So brutal! These guys really tore down Ali jr. this episode. Can’t believe his life changed so quickly haha thanks for watching! -JM
Retsu and Jack are the focus of the Maxim tournament.
You know what ali jr problem is, he's too cocky and full of himself. They also beat up on an injured ali jr, they are sore losers for that.
Haha definitely! I love how they both admitted it too! Ali jr got torn down in this episode. Guy has some tenacity for still carrying in though! -JM
@@wibugang lol she should take notes come baki. You dont have to accept every fight
This is just How the baki story goes hello I’m an overpowered character and I’m not Japanese I will be treated with respect until the writer remembers that he is writing pro Japanese propaganda and gets bored decides he’s going to crank his favourite characters up to 29 hello weird swan fighter who is fighting doppo and is obviously going somewh- oh yujiro killed him ok ok probably a fluke hi scary convict guys I’m sure you all have a point ........ ok ok that didn’t work out either it got dumb ran out of ideas one guy literally exploded his own hand instead of just getting a gun or something and they seem to have forgotten that in the preview of their return that will totally go somewhere and these characters will have a point and won’t just be wasted like our boy retsu who is obviously another son of yujiro because he has the demon back but it’s never commented or even noticed and since he wasn’t confirmed half Japanese like jack then he must be killed by the Japanese musashi rinse and repeat a Japanese character is gonna kill old man khaio I sees it coming I does I does
This was the plot I ended up seeing. Grunt,grunt grunt, fight, grunt
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Doppo is very realist.
Doppo is dope! He's one of my favorite characters in this series so far. He was definitely harsh towards Junior though lmao! -JM
Honestly Ali Jr kinda deserved the beating because he started the fights with all of them and he suffered the consequences
he wanted the smoke!
I been watching some mmv of the future and I have to say junior have balls of steel to face Jack
F*** yeah! Jack is a monster. He is crazy to go against him! Thanks for watching! -JM
this man got beat up so many times i felt bad
Literallly every part of him was broken. All that’s left is his mind.. can’t wait to see what happens next! Thanks for watching! -JM
It was just the consequence from his actions.
lol whoop his ass for baki, lets gooo
It was anti climactic!
The OST you were wondering is called Baki - confrontation : ruclips.net/video/uU4ByuFc5fo/видео.html
Thank you! -JM
Hey Again!
Hey!! Hope you are doing well! Thank you so much for watching with us! -JM
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F*** yeah! Thank you for watching ! -JM
True anime fans know it was called planet muscle
3:41 Confrontation
Thank you! I’ve been wondering! Thanks for watching -JM
@@wibugang no problem. are u even gonna listen to that? i work out with this sometimes.
Thanks guys love for you guys
Thank you!! We love you too!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Definitely 🔥🔥🔥🔥 thank you for watching! -JM
Here's the music for when Jack Hanma & Muhammad Ali Jr fight ruclips.net/video/mvAjp2oYPT8/видео.html
Nice!! Thank you! I always imagined it being called prisoners theme, but this makes much more sense! -JM
lolllll all the vid is her trying to not look at the damege and blood.
Sometimes it’s too much! Haha! Thank you for watching! 🖤Somaly
バキ最高❤️
Love baki! Thanks for watching! -JM
They was trying to teach him if he continues fighting we will have to be no only stronger but he need to be ready to fight to dead fight for his live but that character is scared and he is didn't born to be a fighter
Very true. He was not ready to enter Baki's world. Hopefully he will survive!! Thanks for watching -JM
Idc Baki had plot
Jack>>>>>>>ali
Ain’t no doubt about that! Such a brutal fight. Thanks for watching! -JM