My New Favorite Meme Boat - Tromp First Impressions
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"No one knows airstrikes better than me."
"We will make Dutch DDs great again."
Most of the players are used to play with the ASW planes so they are mostly caught off guard with the airstrikes thinking that it is just a ASW thing but when the bombs fell, its too late to react
That will be for some time , like with every new ship , I remember when I got fresh Yoshino , I got so many long rage torpedo kills simply because majority players did not knew what this is , those who will spend db on her for that 2-4 weeks will feel like Gods , but before xmas everybody will know what to expect form Tromop , and no one will just camp begind island , Dutch cruiser exist in game with that crap , and that dont breake game.
this might be the most valid reason, I haven't seen DDs straight line this hard for drops before
@@huzarion3814 the only op in tromp is the airstrikes its basically bombing run but faster rather than the cruiser its more slowly
Tromp will make something great again.
WG needs to have an Orange Cammo! :-)
@@stevenwiederholt7000 orange with white-yellowish superstructure.
@@stevenwiederholt7000 that's especially punny because Admiral Tromp, for whom this ship is named, was a member of the Orangist faction in the Dutch Republic in the 17th century
Just a little bit of extra history and hopeful humor to your joke :)
@@jonahstephens2904 That's fantastic...🤣
@@stevenwiederholt7000 there is 1, looks a bit like an 80's oranje jersey
This DD's air strikes are the current version of stealth firing back before WG implemented the detection penalty for firing your guns.
Great point !!
Yes it is and I learned how to effectively play her using that technique as I use to do with the Khabby back in the old days lol
Tromp: nobody knows the combination of air strike and torpedos better than me☝😯👌
10:40 "Somebody stop me mouahahaha" with your joker laugh is epic :)
Triple Tromp Div Meme already brewing...
Actually a quite interesting ship and an interesting counter to radar cruisers. These bombs seem to drop without the parachute like the Dutch cruisers do so i guess easier to aim. But damn, your aim is on-point here.
The time difference from click to drop with the Tromp is I believe 11s, whereas the dutch cruiser airstrikes are 14s. 3 seconds doesn't seem like a lot, but it does seem to make a huge difference.
@@michealstout4619 well every second counts for surface ships considering going faster takes few seconds
is it just me or is the spread on the tromp much tighter than the crruisers?
@@cd6583 It is. It's more like the D7P's airstrike area.
Tromp was a Light cruiser of sorts. But WG put us as DD.😅
We encountered a Tromp in clan battle a few days ago. A teammate was in a Russian cruiser was getting hammered by these air strikes. I told him it was a DD that had a 10k range for the air strikes. He used his 12K radar and destroyed the DD. A great team up would be a Tromp with Gouden Leeuw. I plan on picking up a Tromp when it is available for coal.
Once more players become aware of the Tromp and develop strategies to deal with this DD it will not seem so OP.
Which is why I don't get in radar range unless I'm behind a mountain in my Tromp.
I'm imagining some early access ones in CBs being a bit of a pain for lodged in DDs and Radar Cruisers with that Airstrike
Tromp on Hotspot... yikes
Need a mod with Trump's voiceover just for this ship
Please no....
@@paessensdanny9443 snowflake
They wil say ... die mexicans
That poor Sherman. Said no one ever until PQ. Those air strikes are dirty as fook
" Said no one ever until P.Q." Lol very well said sir! :)
From what it seems the airstrikes bombs are narrower and way more packed than the cruiser line and the 7Province hence why it would make it easier to hit dds
Just what WOWS needs, more airstrikes........
@@EvoraGT430 Honestly I think the Tromp is much less of an issue than all the other shit that's plaguing the game rn
Hitting dds using Tromp airstrikes is really difficult unless those dds just sail in a straight line or just sit somewhere without moving for no reason. Battleships are your main target but judging with the current meta getting to get within 10km is rather difficult with radars, subs and CVs are running around. Playing too aggressive early will make you going back to port early.
This was such a fun video to watch great to see you having fun.
The bombs fall like a CVs, no parachutes that add on to lead time.
Yeah. It's unfair how gouden line have parachutes for their bombs but not for this abomination
Waiting for the airstrike dutch submarine.
Thanks for the video and the good play. It is an interesting ship, let's see how you handle it yourself.
Spend a lot of doubloons then it gets nerfed, seems like a value proposition.
Wtf PQ Is actually insane with these airstrikes with the dds in the first game
The ship must be very strong, because it's sold for cash as some form of early access, before it goes into the armory for coal. Once all whales got the op version it will be nerfed when it becomes available for coal. WG has done this many many times with a lot of ships, that were released in a broken state just to nerf them a few months down the road. If they can not be nerfed, because everyone would complain, they simply remove them because they are "too popular" (JB, Georgia, Smolensk, Alaska, …) and then sell them either through special events (Black Friday) or via loot boxes. Typical WG move and not surprising at all.
I really dont think its that good. I mean yeah solid guns solid conceal good HP pool, But the Main feature the airstrike is kind of underwhelming with only 21mm of pen. You dont damage anything on ships only superstructure and thats not enough for me personally. Thats why i dont think its worth all the Money you have to pay in Order to get it in early access
Or weak.... WG just cashed out people stupidity. Also we have kearsarge and still no nerf. WG is probably remove OP ship than nerf it
@@Vincent_2704 it’s definitely unique enough as a coal ship though. Might be getting it instead of Marceau now that I’m halfway done on kleber.
@@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 I get that. But as it stands its not that high on my coal ship wish list. First I will get Marceau, maybe after that, since I already have the go to coal ships salem, Moskwa, Napoli
@@Vincent_2704 ikr. This will more worth it. If they use halland turret.
Just look tier 9 premiums ship.
The trade down just too much
Look at those airstrikes! Are they small airstrikes? And he referred to my airstrikes, he said "if they're small, something else must be small". I guarantee you, there's no problem👌
I met one a couple of weeks ago and I was pretty sure I'd want one.
Now, I'm sure, specially after seing the stats. You seemed to really enjoy making this video ;)
That's deffo a very flexible DD, & air-strikes every 48s is just plain scary, given how nasty they worked (only @ T5 in the Dutch CL line, so painful, so don't have experience of delivering air-strikes from Dutch CLs yet)
drone planes dropping molotovs, modern warfare. Does the drops trigger incoming fire alerts skill ?. it should so you have a chance to escape/change diretion.
I don't know that I've *heard* you have this much fun.
I can buy this very soon,but i can also buy f.sherman. Not sure which on to get yet. Which of these two ships are more fun?
Glad to see you having a blast in game :)
Moar airplanes is exactly what we needed in the game! Thanks weegee!!!
I do not see where you can buy the Tromp? Can anyone help?
Where are these planes meant to be coming from? Are they being launched from the dd? If so, I couldn't see any planes on the Tromp when it was in port. If they are just magically appearing, does this mean there is nothing stopping WG from giving air strikes to subs. Wouldn't that be fun ...
Land based aircraft dude... The pacific theater is know for this one
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 So why do they always come from the direction of the ship then?
@@geo047047 they dont.... but if airstrike is become realistic. they will spot you and land more precise strike
They come from the ISS just like how CV summons those fighters
Tromp can make wows great again.
This is like going back to invisible firing again. Can't see me but if I see you have fun burning.
Keep up with the positive videos Potato. Too many times, I see these WOWS creator’s get negative with a little bit of popularity.
Ok there was a cat noise and you made me get up and walk across my house to see if my cat wanted to get in the house xD
They run all of these ships through testing. They knew it was OP to begin with. Makes me wonder if they do this intentionally, and make people want to buy it because they're dumb, and then nerf it after the complaints come in.
No duh.
today nerfed or not ?
That was a fun video PQ ;-)
The power lies in the fact that you can strike with impunity because the strikes don't increase your detectability, unlike gunfire.
So just like CVs then.
@@EvoraGT430 It's true for all air power, but this is a ship that can get in range of other ships without being seen itself. I know it's kind of true for the Dutch cruisers as well, but they are not the stealthiest anymore. And this DD has *good* stealth.
@@dany1441 10.3km detect with a 13km Airstrike range and the Sharnhorst's guns on a T10 cruiser with a 40mm icebreaker is a pretty potent combo. I'd still call that pretty stealthy.
@@saltmonolith9817 It is, compared to a lot of other cruisers and all BB's. But the Tromp outspots almost everyone, which was my point. GL still has to deal with DD's.
@@dany1441 that's fair. It is pretty stealthy even by DD standards. Probably won't keep that stealth on release, though. Although knowing WG, it will just to sell it, then they'll nerf it after everyone has bought it.
“Holy crap.” D. Tromp
I'm not sure it is the 11sec lead time. I think it is the SMALL BOX. If you hit, you REALLY hit. All the bombs are compressed.
I completely agree with you on the Tromp, although I didn't get any insane bomb drops on DDs like you had in this video, I still managed to hit them fairly often and every chunk of damage on them counts and makes it easier to gun them down the old fashioned way, since the guns are really nice too :) Tromp is just a ton of fun to play when you can utilize all your armaments :D
Love your video. So funny how shocked you are every time you nail a strike :D Wishing you all the best mate :)
The moment you face something with little superstructure tho the airstrike is a glorified HE bomb for fires since you pen nothing else with 21 mm
Hi potato
any chance of showing us Malta? I know your not CV player but your opinions are pretty close to mine, you helped me a lot with decisions witch ships i should play in past...
looks like a mini kersage without the citadel.... wonder how long until it gets nerfed hard
that deliny probably raging after that drop 😂
Remember when destroyers were well... destroyers....
man id love this boat but will never ever play enough to get the token needed.
u have to buy them. get a discount for trading some free xp, but your basically buying it.
Really enjoy the water physics with the latest updates - ships bounce and rock with waves...
And subs bounce around so much everyone gets seasick 😂
Tromp
Making Airstrikes Great Again
PLEASE REVISIT THE TROMP in a couple of weeks, once people have started to get ready for it. Please show us a few of your games in it. This will help us decide of it is worth the price.
Thank You Very Much!
So how exactly can a DD carry that many planes?
The ship is interesting, and as usual the way WG is releasing it is just the worst kind of monetization mobile game style bullshit. It is both expensive, eats up free XP (which WG appears to hate more and more) and requires yet another "currency" to convert and get. I hope people wait but based on Black Friday it appears people have no problem buying coal ships for real money.
Damn, you might have some big fingers considering you activate DAF everytime you go for the speed boost :D
Can IFHE increase the penetration of the airstrike?
And would it be worth it?
And that is why you don't put parachutes on BOMBS! The cruiser strikes take so long to fall it's stupid. These bombs are dropping almost instantly.
It will be the biggest ship, the most tremendous. People say it will be the biggest ship that ever was and will be. And it will be great. We will win so much with this ship, it will be so tremendous, believe me.
I would never say that, that's what people tell me, they say "oh, it's just the best", that's what they say to me.
@@jonathansullivan6706 I hope you understood the joke here.... :) maybe if we were allowed to add hand gestures in the comments somehow you it would be all clear :D
@@Nurg1982 yes, I got the joke. I was continuing the imitation of a certain former president's cadence.
I killed a Tromp with my Groningen when it was in testing.
you should get the mod which shows when teammates are spotted lol
This is the best dd in the entire history of dds
Me: YAY NEW SHIP FROM MY HOMELAND *Looks at coal price*
You got my heart with Tromp. That's ship I keep my coal for. Looks really funny with all those attack abilities.
Although it looks like it fits random battles (which I don't play much) better than anything else.
Seeing the tokens for free xp in the armory made me hope this was a new FXP ship... Then I looked more carefully and recalled that RB ships are the new FXP ships. Sigh...
It will be free soon.....coal.
@@EvoraGT430 I know, but i was hoping in futility that we could get a free xp ship haha. And I'd like to use my coal for other ships
If I ever get this ship I'm sticking an orange 🍊 camo on it 😂
Orange happens to be the color of the Dutch royal family. So we (the Dutch) use orange a lot. For instance our national sport teams wear orange. So the double meaning of: orange for Trump might be lost on a lot of Dutchies 😬
Be careful you don't get Tromped by the Tromp. l0l =D
Please no....
@@paessensdanny9443 Brother the joke's and meme's are just starting l0l 🤣
"NO ONE KNOWS AIRSTRIKE BETTER THAN ME!"
nice gameplay man you wil hit dd's realy hard with thos airstrikes think you got lucky aswel on dd's cous the are not easy to hit
I think we all had out jaw drop at the 04:22 mark! ROFL
Gotta believe it's going to get nerfed unfortunately. Being able to drop airstrike from concealment range is a definite game changer.
Kearsarge could pummel enemy CV in 5 min. And yet no nerf
No it isn't. It's what CVs do every game.
It does really matter for airstrike if you are spotted or not. You can just use island to cover yourself dont really change the gameplay. In fact if i remember the tier 10 Dutch cruiser can also drop airstrike while not spotted.
Except the mainline cruiser can do the exact same thing? 10.3km detect with full build with a 13km Airstrike range.
@@saltmonolith9817 the AA YODO AND ANAPOLIS can deplane them hard before drop that makes the useless
Got nuke in Shima against 2 tromps air striking me last night running no help
Originaly the Tromp class had the same bofor guns as de Ruyter. the same torpedos as the Dutch Submarine Mark V53. and they actualy went boom unlike the american torpedos ,
Tromp was actualy quite a resiliant Flotilla leader cruiser . specificly build to counter japanese special destroyers , taking on several japanese destroyers damaging them when covering a with draw , in close range fighting she got hit 11 times and was still operational
Her sister ship Jacob van Heemkerk was outfitted in england with different guns as there was no fire control for bofors ,
so she got 5 twin 4inch dual purpose turrets and tons and i mean tons of AA . If she comes to the game it would be the first destroyer with 10 Guns.
I think Harugumo has 10
@@travelwell8098 Harugamo had 10x 25 mm guns and 8x 100 mm guns .
and that ship was build late war.
It´s also easier to hit,because unlike the little slow parachute bombs in Gouden you get little fast rockets in Tromp, if you watch closely.
This boat should come with orange camo and a combover.
you had to much fun in it lol
I don't think the airstrikes will counter radar cruisers much. The bombs seem to shatter on most cruiser decks and fires are not as big of a deal than on BBs. I think right now it's strong against hydro.
This isn’t a joke but my surname is Tromp thanks for doing a video about me and my family
this is not tromp
this is trump
I know wich coal ship I will take next
Looks interesting and although I'm doing really well with D7P (2nd by WR on EU) i struggle to hit anything with those airstrikes.
I'm waiting for Brisbane first before taking other coal ships. Looking forward for that one.
As understand it (as always I..Could..Be..Wong), if you buy it now you get a 12 point capt. This is a Good Thing.
12 points is nothing. 39000 doubloons is a huge pile of cash, though. Especially for something that will be coal.
First of all...why has WG stopped making great ships available for steel? I remember the Stalingrad! Wow, it took a long time for me to accumulate enough steel for it but it made obtaining steel very desirable. Now days, everytime there is a ship ( esp DDs) I am excited about... no dice. I have been accumulating steel for some time now with nothing I want to spend it on. Vampire 2... yes I want it, sorry research points ( great, just what I want to do, regrind a whole ship line again..tnx WG). Anyway, thats my whine, sorry. Next post will be the Trompf.
I’ve been using my free sxp and doing the Japanese dd line just because there is only two I don’t have which is the two Japanese ships. And I’m not spending 2 mill on the hayata lmao. So I have locked up the Ohio and vampire 2 and am very happy.
Almost the same price of a Marceau when it becomes available for coal..sure it has concealment advantage but those airstrikes are not going to land on a Marceau unless it’s stuck…and knowing where the strikes are coming from tells the Marceau exactly where Tromp is to close the distance and annihilate it
I love how some dude in the chat is like "watch some PQ videos you idiots"
this looks fun indeed. I do note a massive difference in power vs the gouden leeuw for instance. If I had 68 bomb hits with the GL, I would have well over 100-150k dmg (depending if I also fired my guns well. I usually get around 50/50 split guns vs bombs with the GL. main upside for this is the fire chance of these bombs, you can burn down, or help the team burn down ships hard with these strikes
Good video, but the real Tromp, was a Dutch CL, not a DD. But that's WOS spinning things
Maybe it's just me but these airstrikes feel way out of place on a DD. What happened to alone and unafraid. Guns and torps is all there should be and the damage from these air strikes, good gravy! It feels like WeeGee should have the good grace to at least blush for putting something like this out in the wild and doubly so for trying to charge what they have been.
Is there any ship in this game that PQ doesn't think should be nerfed?🤔
Z31
I think it should have been called the Obeema
Meow😆, cat agreed with you
tromp just got a buff last patch.
A BUFF? WTF is WG smoking?
Its actually a light cruiser
This ship needs superheal, smoke and a 15km radar!!!
06:30 ok maybe I want one... nah, I almost bought it for Coal buuut naah, Tromp is bad, the Airstrikes might be awesome against DDs and 16mm deck cruisers, but against anything bigger they still suck, 3-4-5k damage per strike on big ships (so 6-10k if you use double, every 90s lets say) and thats only with perfect aim which is not how things will go in real games, Tromp will lose a gunfight with at least half of T10 DDs in the game (unlike Ragnar, Elbing that have 25mm armor covering most of their side), gun angles are bad (all guns can aim 31deg from nose, but 42deg from rear), and most importantly Tromp has basically ZERO AA, zero flak + no smoke so you are a free kill for most CVs. Elbing, Ragnar, Regolo very often die to random torps because of bad maneuverability and lack of hydro, so will Tromp. To use Airstrikes on bigger ships you need to get within Radar range and around 10km big ships will hit you very very well, Elbing and Regolo have smoke to help with that, Ragnar has a heal, Tromp has nothing. When your speed boost is on cooldown most T10 cruisers can chase you and catch you without a problem. Tromp is a bad ship for winning games, enemy DDs will usually outplay you. If you do like Airstrikes a lot, Gouden is a much better ship.
This ship gonna be nerfed for sure lol😂😂
DD with air strike, GG
Guess the Dutch is tromping the battlefield, ey?
next up is going to be airstrike only tromp lol
why dont torp venezia... why...
Sadly, it has really bad anti-air because the main guns are not dual purposed and really bad depth charges because they have low values across the board.
The trump is made of paper mache. That thing takes one volley and it get dev struck. I manage to dev strike that thing