I feel like it was the right group a couple years ago. But now you overpaid a lot of guys and gave too long of contracts to guys who are passed their prime. The “star players” are all 30+. And signed long term for a high Aav. Horrible management like you said.
The last thing I want is for Drury to make any more trades or decisions with this team. With the exception of Kreider and Panarin, whose contracts he inherited, everyone else on this team is his doings. Including the coaches. Changes need to be made, but allowing Drury to make them will not fix the problem because he is the problem.
I cant imagine what Torterella would do with this team if he was coach. So many guys would be benched and practices would be non stop. He would go after the worst players.
When the stands become empty then perhaps Dolan will get the message that Drury is the wrong guy to run the show. Drury has built a team mainly of one way SOFT finesse players. When Laviolette is asked when the team will start winning he should say "not with this team".
Half of these guys would’ve been gone two seasons ago who were not producing. And this chasing the old talent that Chris Drury loves to do his time. Should be over now.
You know what's bad I had hardly any emotion , when it turned 5-1 and I turned the game off i kinda just chuckled and turned it off. I have zero sympathy for any player on this roster and hope they get traded to a non contender just like us.
The way this team is going we will never in our time see them win another Cup, if this continues they will celebrate in another 20 years the 50 years of wait they have only won 4 Cups where the Devils and the Islanders have won more cups in less years in existence .
What!? You mean Laviolette & Drury weren't fired last night? The Ranger's President should fire both of them. Wait--Drury is the Pres. I wish he would fire himself. Do the right thing Drury!!!!! Trading guys just to trade guys is not going to advance the cause. Dolan doesn't give a damn about the Rangers, he cares about the Knicks. Rangers won't get much for Borgen because they are dealing from desperation. Good decisions rarely are made under desperation. Same applies to Miller who must be on Sominex the way he plays. Maybe the salvation is getting a top 5 draft pick. Actually the Rangers have some really talented players, but the team is tight & panicked. When that happens players are not relaxed & spontaneous & overthink everything. This season is not going to be saved. A complete reboot of management is needed.
Hate to throw a rock through the thin plate glass window of anyone imagining "a trade" will save this Rangers season...Let's look at last night's game... The first (of two!) short handed goals scored on Rangers was by Tampa Bay defenseman Ryan McDonagh. He used to be Rangers Captain, but he was traded away. Who else was lost in the same trade? J.T. Miller...yeah, same guy everyone now claims is the Rangers salvation! Take a look at the handful of smoke received in return... and tell me about "trades".
Guys i dont even know what to say here. This teams falling from Presidents trophy recipient last year, to the NHL's biggest joke this year tells me this will take years to fix. From players,to management.
Drury should trade Borgen at the deadline for sure. They already received a 3rd and 6th rounder with him for Kakko. Teams typically overpay at the deadline, so perhaps Drury can get a 2nd rounder as well. That'd be good value for Kakko (a 2nd, 3rd and 6th) who was at low value point based upon performance.
If they're sellers they need to go all in with guys like igor and panarin. A slight roster shake up with help on D and a coaching change could do a lot for this team.
Keep Laffy and fox trocheck and should just keep panarin let him finish his contract hear and help Laffy become our leader everybody else can go including oh how can I forget will cullye keep him too
Laffy though I like him has been trash since signed he's soft and embarrassing he can go for the right piece, Vinnie my favorite current ranger he can go as a piece and Fox can't skate ,can't hit he's incredible on the blue line with patience but he can take his 1 goal and leave also , not 1 player should be off the table. ESPECIALLY IGOR.
All great players , they should also look to extend Panarin deal Now. Letting Panarin go at the end of his deal would be a disaster. Drury is the problem
@@davev-r7t Not at $11,000,000 per. Part of NYR problem stems from cap issues. Lundquist wouldn't leave when his skills left him and NYR now honor him every month. I would have waited 2-3 years before retiring his number for the forced buy out which really hurt at that time.
First of all decide what type of team you want to be.Then sign/draft players that meet that criteria. Better scouting reports might help as well.The Rangers first round picks have been abysmal .Anderson, Kravtsov, Miller and to some extent Kakko have all turned out to be busts or with low ceiling Lafreniere will hopefully be the exception to this.
Drafting is incredibly awful. Then on top of that, they bring in coaches who do not like young players (GG) and penalize young players who make mistakes. Hughes was a mistake machine when he went to Devils (like his brother) and was never scratched or sat. He was allowed to play thru them and got better. Kakko (among other young players) would sit minutes or be scratched for mistakes much like Laffy early on. Hope Kakko shoves it down Dolans throat.
Why does this team get rid of anyone with strength. This is the softest team in the nhl. Can't count on Rempe he is suspended every other game. But yeah let's get rid of more strength.
In case anyone is wondering why this allowed to linger on, Charles was ill and passed away last night at 98 yrs old , hopefully James was preoccupied with his father's illness. There's no other excuse in the world why he allow this to continue, from Gross mismanagement by Drury for the last 3 yrs especially. Now you know Gallant Quit, on mutual terms, of course.......... And Sather suddenly Resigned from a NO SHOW JOB
When a team does a 180 this quickly it’s the leadership that needs to be changed. Coach has no emotion on the bench and his boss has not given him the tools to do the job
Sadly, Cousins was recently linked to the Red Wings. Seems like Steve Yzerman is already starting to think about making some big moves. So perhaps looking to make a trade with the Wings might be a good idea. So you pointing out the Cousin ordeal turned out to be right. He does indeed want out of Buffalo.
@@TrenurSports A lot of reports have also mentioned a potential big trade in the works. The two teams that come to mind right away off of recent rumors would be the Canucks or Blues. Even Fox's name is starting to get brought up. I think Rangers management is equally pissed at the current players performance. Dolan isn't pleased either. So something big is bound to happen, I just have no clue as to what it could be.
@@TrenurSports The Rangers and Sabers have had scouts seen recently at there AHL games. So it's possible they could make a deal with each other by the time, the deadline rolls around.
Been watching this team since 1980. Worst bunch I've ever seen. At least the bad teams would brawl their way thru the season in the golden days. $11M SHESTY runs to take an early shower!!#%#@! Where is the leadership! Goody and Troubs feel justifiably vindicated after being unceremoniously cut off at the knees. My benching for the Panther game is Lafreniere. What Generational player completely disappears for over a month. I know everyone wants Mika to sit. The better idea is to send his ass to the minors. The days of him galloping across the ice are gone. He has always been soft and is now a headcase. Coop was salivating last night at the idea of robbing the stRangers again. This time, it will be K Miller for the cup run. We all know he'd save M's career. Drury has destroyed the team. Possibly for years to come. In a league that changes coaches like diapers, this staff is still standing after a collapse of this magnitude is shocking. Ill be watching legacy youtube games for the remainder of the season. This way, i don't go to bed in a depression.
Great Video, as usual, Trenur. I don't know what's going on & what's going to turn this team around, if anything. That's why, other than his Rentals Only, I can't really criticize GM Chris Drury. He had A President's Trophy Winners last year & this year has A Horrible Team. He's making the right moves, in getting rid of Goodrow, Trouba & Kakko, unless these guys are better than they played here, which I don't think is the case. Let me know what you think
You seem pretty high on the Borgen addition. He didn’t seem to help much against Tampa managing a -1 on the two even strength goals and only one hit. When a team is struggling like this, adding a third pairing defenceman has no value, especially one who will be a free agent (and worth every penny of free). The series of clips shown had zero to do with the commentary which went on about ten and a half minutes longer than needed to say nothing.
It's mostly the teams in the Pacific division who really want Borgan. Since they saw him often playing in the same division. So the Kings, Golden Knights and possibly the Oilers. Maybe even the Flames. Only the Canucks have been publicly said they'd be interested in Borgan but there is at least, one other team in that division also interested in acquiring Borgan's.
I'm not high on Will Borgen I've talked about it in my videos breaking down the Kakko trade but he could be valuable to a playoff team looking to add a bottom pairing defensemen.
@ it is not evident that he has any value to the Rangers so I doubt he will be much sought after by a playoff team. Just another example of Drury making bad deals.
Kreider and Fox both on the ice for 4 goals against.Zib on the ice for 3 goals against. Schneider and Vaakaneinen nothing against. Laf and Chytil only on for 1 goal against. The issues are obvious. 2 shorthanded goals? Pathetic playing. Wait until the deadline and get more for the guys who need to go. Next season start fresh, this year is trash.
What are you getting back for Borgen? OH, you answered that. Okay, a 3rd round pick is possible if you retain salary. Otherwise maybe a 5th. No prospect in my opinion.
The NYR are a perfect example of a team who is finally facing the music as a result of terrible roster management.
I completely agree
Try being a Sabres fan!
I feel like it was the right group a couple years ago. But now you overpaid a lot of guys and gave too long of contracts to guys who are passed their prime. The “star players” are all 30+. And signed long term for a high Aav. Horrible management like you said.
The last place Rangers. Let that sink in for a moment.
After winning the President's Trophy a few short months ago for having the best record.
Very disappointing.
Enough already Drury has to go!! Unfortunately Laviolette has to go too.
Hire Messier and Quenneville
The last thing I want is for Drury to make any more trades or decisions with this team. With the exception of Kreider and Panarin, whose contracts he inherited, everyone else on this team is his doings. Including the coaches. Changes need to be made, but allowing Drury to make them will not fix the problem because he is the problem.
I cant imagine what Torterella would do with this team if he was coach. So many guys would be benched and practices would be non stop. He would go after the worst players.
@@gr8tnowwhat
He benched Michkov and now he is the second highest scoring rookie.
When the stands become empty then perhaps Dolan will get the message that Drury is the wrong guy to run the show. Drury has built a team mainly of one way SOFT finesse players.
When Laviolette is asked when the team will start winning he should say "not with this team".
Half of these guys would’ve been gone two seasons ago who were not producing. And this chasing the old talent that Chris Drury loves to do his time. Should be over now.
You know what's bad I had hardly any emotion , when it turned 5-1 and I turned the game off i kinda just chuckled and turned it off. I have zero sympathy for any player on this roster and hope they get traded to a non contender just like us.
Same here, but didn't even make it to 5-1
@NYRangersteve because you are smart and not a glutton for punishment
@@Ddeamorin it's sad!!!
My rule is I check out once they are down by 3 goals
The way this team is going we will never in our time see them win another Cup, if this continues they will celebrate in another 20 years the 50 years of wait they have only won 4 Cups where the Devils and the Islanders have won more cups in less years in existence .
What!? You mean Laviolette & Drury weren't fired last night? The Ranger's President should fire both of them. Wait--Drury is the Pres. I wish he would fire himself. Do the right thing Drury!!!!! Trading guys just to trade guys is not going to advance the cause. Dolan doesn't give a damn about the Rangers, he cares about the Knicks. Rangers won't get much for Borgen because they are dealing from desperation. Good decisions rarely are made under desperation. Same applies to Miller who must be on Sominex the way he plays. Maybe the salvation is getting a top 5 draft pick. Actually the Rangers have some really talented players, but the team is tight & panicked. When that happens players are not relaxed & spontaneous & overthink everything. This season is not going to be saved. A complete reboot of management is needed.
Maybe Soto can play for the Rangers to
Only the owner can fire Drury .. and his dad just died sooooo
Do both: Get rid of all the malcontents, Drury and Lavy!
Yes that is what I want too
The players hate them too...
We need a whole new owner
Hate to throw a rock through the thin plate glass window of anyone imagining "a trade" will save this Rangers season...Let's look at last night's game...
The first (of two!) short handed goals scored on Rangers was by Tampa Bay defenseman Ryan McDonagh. He used to be Rangers Captain, but he was traded away. Who else was lost in the same trade? J.T. Miller...yeah, same guy everyone now claims is the Rangers salvation! Take a look at the handful of smoke received in return... and tell me about "trades".
Guys i dont even know what to say here. This teams falling from Presidents trophy recipient last year, to the NHL's biggest joke this year tells me this will take years to fix. From players,to management.
I've heard recent rumors that the Canucks may be interested in Borgen.
This is managments fault all the way, Dolan needs to see the team and Drurey has to
Drury should trade Borgen at the deadline for sure. They already received a 3rd and 6th rounder with him for Kakko. Teams typically overpay at the deadline, so perhaps Drury can get a 2nd rounder as well. That'd be good value for Kakko (a 2nd, 3rd and 6th) who was at low value point based upon performance.
If they're sellers they need to go all in with guys like igor and panarin. A slight roster shake up with help on D and a coaching change could do a lot for this team.
Keep Laffy and fox trocheck and should just keep panarin let him finish his contract hear and help Laffy become our leader everybody else can go including oh how can I forget will cullye keep him too
Laffy though I like him has been trash since signed he's soft and embarrassing he can go for the right piece, Vinnie my favorite current ranger he can go as a piece and Fox can't skate ,can't hit he's incredible on the blue line with patience but he can take his 1 goal and leave also , not 1 player should be off the table. ESPECIALLY IGOR.
All great players , they should also look to extend Panarin deal Now. Letting Panarin go at the end of his deal would be a disaster. Drury is the problem
@@davev-r7t Not at $11,000,000 per. Part of NYR problem stems from cap issues. Lundquist wouldn't leave when his skills left him and NYR now honor him every month. I would have waited 2-3 years before retiring his number for the forced buy out which really hurt at that time.
First of all decide what type of team you want to be.Then sign/draft players that meet that criteria.
Better scouting reports might help as well.The Rangers first round picks have been abysmal .Anderson, Kravtsov, Miller and to some extent Kakko have all turned out to be busts or with low ceiling Lafreniere will hopefully be the exception to this.
Drafting is incredibly awful. Then on top of that, they bring in coaches who do not like young players (GG) and penalize young players who make mistakes. Hughes was a mistake machine when he went to Devils (like his brother) and was never scratched or sat. He was allowed to play thru them and got better. Kakko (among other young players) would sit minutes or be scratched for mistakes much like Laffy early on. Hope Kakko shoves it down Dolans throat.
I agree messier and quenville.
The end of an era.
Why does this team get rid of anyone with strength. This is the softest team in the nhl. Can't count on Rempe he is suspended every other game. But yeah let's get rid of more strength.
Rempe doesn’t play when Matthieu Olivier and Arber WiFi are pencilled into the games.
In case anyone is wondering why this allowed to linger on, Charles was ill and passed away last night at 98 yrs old , hopefully James was preoccupied with his father's illness.
There's no other excuse in the world why he allow this to continue, from Gross mismanagement by Drury for the last 3 yrs especially. Now you know Gallant Quit, on mutual terms, of course..........
And Sather suddenly Resigned from a NO SHOW JOB
where did u see johnston talk about this?
It was stated in an article that I saw on NHLTradeTalk.com and Pierre LeBrun also talked about it as well.
When a team does a 180 this quickly it’s the leadership that needs to be changed. Coach has no emotion on the bench and his boss has not given him the tools to do the job
Sadly, Cousins was recently linked to the Red Wings. Seems like Steve Yzerman is already starting to think about making some big moves. So perhaps looking to make a trade with the Wings might be a good idea. So you pointing out the Cousin ordeal turned out to be right. He does indeed want out of Buffalo.
We may have a little easier time making the move because the Rangers are at least in a different division
@@TrenurSports A lot of reports have also mentioned a potential big trade in the works. The two teams that come to mind right away off of recent rumors would be the Canucks or Blues. Even Fox's name is starting to get brought up. I think Rangers management is equally pissed at the current players performance. Dolan isn't pleased either. So something big is bound to happen, I just have no clue as to what it could be.
@@TrenurSports Regardless, that was a good callout about Cousins so I just had to mention it.
@@TrenurSports The Rangers and Sabers have had scouts seen recently at there AHL games. So it's possible they could make a deal with each other by the time, the deadline rolls around.
Been watching this team since 1980. Worst bunch I've ever seen. At least the bad teams would brawl their way thru the season in the golden days.
$11M SHESTY runs to take an early shower!!#%#@!
Where is the leadership!
Goody and Troubs feel justifiably vindicated after being unceremoniously cut off at the knees.
My benching for the Panther game is Lafreniere. What Generational player completely disappears for over a month.
I know everyone wants Mika to sit. The better idea is to send his ass to the minors. The days of him galloping across the ice are gone. He has always been soft and is now a headcase.
Coop was salivating last night at the idea of robbing the stRangers again. This time, it will be K Miller for the cup run. We all know he'd save M's career.
Drury has destroyed the team. Possibly for years to come. In a league that changes coaches like diapers, this staff is still standing after a collapse of this magnitude is shocking.
Ill be watching legacy youtube games for the remainder of the season. This way, i don't go to bed in a depression.
Great Video, as usual, Trenur. I don't know what's going on & what's going to turn this team around, if anything. That's why, other than his Rentals Only, I can't really criticize GM Chris Drury. He had A President's Trophy Winners last year & this year has A Horrible Team. He's making the right moves, in getting rid of Goodrow, Trouba & Kakko, unless these guys are better than they played here, which I don't think is the case. Let me know what you think
Winning a Stanley Cup , you’re a joke. Igor has given up 5+ goals. Worst in league.
Great contract. 😢
You seem pretty high on the Borgen addition. He didn’t seem to help much against Tampa managing a -1 on the two even strength goals and only one hit. When a team is struggling like this, adding a third pairing defenceman has no value, especially one who will be a free agent (and worth every penny of free). The series of clips shown had zero to do with the commentary which went on about ten and a half minutes longer than needed to say nothing.
It's mostly the teams in the Pacific division who really want Borgan. Since they saw him often playing in the same division. So the Kings, Golden Knights and possibly the Oilers. Maybe even the Flames. Only the Canucks have been publicly said they'd be interested in Borgan but there is at least, one other team in that division also interested in acquiring Borgan's.
I'm not high on Will Borgen I've talked about it in my videos breaking down the Kakko trade but he could be valuable to a playoff team looking to add a bottom pairing defensemen.
@ it is not evident that he has any value to the Rangers so I doubt he will be much sought after by a playoff team. Just another example of Drury making bad deals.
Kreider and Fox both on the ice for 4 goals against.Zib on the ice for 3 goals against. Schneider and Vaakaneinen nothing against. Laf and Chytil only on for 1 goal against. The issues are obvious. 2 shorthanded goals? Pathetic playing. Wait until the deadline and get more for the guys who need to go. Next season start fresh, this year is trash.
What are you getting back for Borgen? OH, you answered that. Okay, a 3rd round pick is possible if you retain salary. Otherwise maybe a 5th. No prospect in my opinion.
Yeah we'll see kinda depends what other teams become sellers as well but some times we see overpays at the deadline cause teams get desperate to add
They might get a 3rd for him.
Something around there is probably realistic
Borgen to a contending team? you must be kidding, he's awful
Wow captain obvious statements
They are a soft team the flyers are playing better than the rangers
They need to trade the whole team.
I believe that they have to get more players with grit
Your still pissed about Kappo now your trying to get more picks.. 😉 🏒🍾